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exciting stuff I'm excited for today's show we are going to be talking about some of our favorite true crime
documentaries gotta do a little gotta clear the air a bit before we walk into this because
we've done this twice before back in 2016 and 2018 so our list that we are presenting here today are not
necessarily our favorite or our our top five or top 10 true crime documentaries of all time
it's just a new list since the old List have been out so these are ones that we have watched devoured since our list
that came out in 2016 in 2018 now you're going well what were on those lists well
it's like 30 documentaries or something so you can find that if you're listening on the
Stitcher app which is free you can listen to all the old episodes go and dig up episodes 59 and episodes
197 for those two lists or if you're a Die Hard then you listen to off the Record
yesterday where we discussed both those lists yeah and those are the people that we like
the most they yeah when you you know sometimes you have to rank your children by which one you love the most yeah
which one showers more yeah or which one you love the least well the uh off the Record people cheers to you you won
again you're our favorite children all right yeah all right number five we're just
doing five we're doing five each so it'd be interesting if we have my suspicion here Captain is we will
have at least one that makes it onto both of our lists well you're a betting man I am I got let's put fifty dollars
on there you I know you too well you'll change your list on the Fly just to win the 50 bucks that's how betting works
all right without further Ado I get to go first so my number five because it should be clear it's it's not just
what a one-part documentary it could be a docu-series right could be a long form
or could be a docu-series so my number five is actually long form it's an hour and 42 minute documentary
that came out a long time ago 2011. it's called a nightmare in Las Cruces so you can find this on Amazon Prime but
you'll have to buy it or rent it okay which I did and I did that weeks before we put out our coverage on that still
unsolved case the bowling alley massacre in Las Cruces right worth the rental not
only worth the rental but good enough to make it on my top five that I've seen since 2018. you know so I I really
enjoyed it the director is Charlie Min and Mark Myers now Charlie Min is pretty well known for his continued
continued participation in keeping this case in the public eye and Charlie Min is an interesting dude
he says that you know when he was in college he saw the old Unsolved Mysteries when they presented this case and we
talked about that when we covered it how Unsolved Mysteries kind of did like an oh by the way it was one of their wanted
segments where they were like this horrible crime happened just like a month or so ago I think it
happened so it happened in January and Unsolved Mysteries put it on their show in early April which is a quick
turnaround for a whole Film Production and TV production crew they just really wanted to help and they
really wanted to put these composite sketches of the individuals that were wanted for this horrible crime on TV so
Unsolved Mysteries they only did like seven or eight minutes on the entire case now again it was very
fresh it was a very new case and then Charlie min well he puts this out on in 2011.
I think his original goal was trying to trying to get it out right at the 20 year anniversary and I
think he I think there was some trouble and it and it took a slightly longer than that but he did a really
interesting take on it because he he really dove into what what could be the motive for this because the motive in
that that case just doesn't make any sense that they go in and they don't steal that much money the perpetrators
and the result is they attempt to kill seven people that's a lot of damage for little reward for their their uh their
attack their troubles their what they put these people through we had a lot of listeners from that area say that it's
probably the biggest speculation in that area was that it was some kind of mob or
or gangster related hit due to the fact that the guy that owned the bowling alley had a bunch of
problems with gambling yeah he seemed to have uh some of his own problems and as
you said and then there's also thought that that drugs was part of the the motivation or or behind the the crime
itself that maybe these two were not only looking for money in this robbery but maybe they were led to believe or
had reason to believe that there could be a large stash of drugs somewhere in the the bowling alley in the business
brain so that's my number five there Mr Captain a nightmare in Las Cruces as said you can watch that on Amazon and
it's a you'll have to rent it or purchase it all right so my number five is one case of the new Unsolved
Mysteries series I like what you did there it's the first case Ray Rivera yes so Ray Rivera's was the first case that
came out everybody was really excited about Netflix is coming out with Unsolved Mysteries and they they remix
the theme a little bit but they didn't change it too much and everybody was really excited but now the format
changed because the format used to be where there would be multiple cases and there'd be you know like you were saying
something be featured for five minutes or ten minutes and sometimes they would talk about aliens or Bigfoot sometimes
they talk about missing person cases so the format has changed the whole series is rated 74 on Rotten Tomatoes you can
find Unsolved Mysteries this series on Netflix it's still there I really thought the first case was the best case
it was this guy that they they moved to a whole different state to work for his friend
and then one day he gets a call and then they can't find him and when they find him it looks like he went through the
roof of a building it was a hotel a fancy hotel yeah and it was one of those cases it
reminded me so much of a when you hear of a Brian Shaffer or you hear of a Mara Murray where you just go what that
doesn't make any sense not only not only what this doesn't make any sense more so
too is what why have I not heard of this before like I I don't know about you but
I had not heard of uh Ray Rivera's case until Unsolved Mysteries and I got this fantastic text from the captain who's
like have you started to watch the new Unsolved Mysteries yet and I said no and he said you'll really like the first
case and you were absolutely right it's a it's a fascinating case yeah it's a case that I think we should even though
a lot of people have seen that episode I think it's a good case that we could have a lot of discussion on speculation
because the other thing fascinating about that case is that there's this four page note that it was four pages
the whoever made this note shrunk down four pages into one and it was folded in duct taped to his desk and it seems
almost like some kind of cryptic writing but overall and I might get some hatred for this and
that's fine but overall the series to me was maybe a 5 out of ten I think they could have hit a home run but I think
it's missing certain things and I know a lot of people say well you can't replace a host like that
my argument is that with there be a no host and by you changing the format of it you're really losing a
lot of the characteristics of why people liked Unsolved Mysteries in the first place
and so it just it could have been called anything else and I think it would have
still been pretty good but I don't think it necessarily had to be called Unsolved Mysteries I give it
the whole series of 5 out of 10. but case number one Rave Rivera I give that a nine and a half out of ten
yeah I'm I'm with you I for for the most part I like that they called it Unsolved
Mysteries I liked it the original people were back at it and working to put put this show out again a show that we love
so much as as children I don't mind the long form and that each episode is kind of its own Standalone
case that doesn't bother me and I I actually thought the opposite of what you said I thought
it was smart not to go with a host just because you you couldn't that was the problem anytime they brought it back in
the past was that the host was always and I I thought the host always did a good job it's just it was always a
letdown because that's what we grew up and that's what we're used to right but we've seen several shows where they do
reboots and that's kind of the make or break because the thing is if when they came back out with it the first time it
was like oh yeah this is nostalgia but there's nothing that really connects you in a sense of
you know one of my favorite shows is queer eye and when they replace the host when it went to Netflix
I was going am I going to like this these new hosts well you do and they're different from
the first host but once you once you do if you do like them then you're rooting for them to do well
you're rooting for them to come back it's just like if you watch mine hunter the actors did such a great job you have
now a relationship with these actors you want them to come back for season three
and I think the fact that there was no person to connect to it's like well if they came back out
with another season that'd be cool but if they don't no big deal I want to be heartbroken well good pick by you there
Captain um my number four is called long shot and this is from 2017 and I believe we've actually
talked about this either you know on off the Record or on True Crime garage or or
just you know to together somewhere four but I really enjoyed this film called long shot it's a documentary
about a man who's arrested for a murder now the interesting thing about this was he
had an alibi and his Alibi they were questioning it they're like yeah you were at a ball game sure thing yeah we
don't believe you because we have somebody else who puts you at the murder scene and says you're the guy that did
it right well what ends up happening is that they have because it's a baseball game you know
there is footage somewhere camera footage of that game but in a weird weird coincidence
they were filming and see I'm trying to discuss this without giving too much away but I guess at this point I gotta
say who cares it's three years old if you if you've not seen it yet um then you know I maybe you weren't
looking to watch it anyway but the weird thing about this is that they were filming an episode of Curb Your
Enthusiasm at that actual baseball game right so they had more cameras there than they normally would and you had HBO
who had cameras there and HBO I mean just one of the best in the business at be it movies TV shows or documentaries
so this one is great and the thing that I like about it too um you know I like things that are long
I like things that are short it doesn't matter uh minutes wise as long as it's good this one I was surprised because
when I sat down to watch it I was expecting you know most documentaries hour and a half ish something like that
but um this one was only like 40 maybe 45 it's 40 minutes long actually I'm looking at my notes right now 40 minutes
long so it's a quick one to get through and it's very interesting and I love the
diagrams along the way the way that they lay the case out for you for and against
this individual it's very easy and clear and concise to follow so I love that part of it and it's very entertaining
very interesting and it's it's almost like watching uh a now episode of of Unsolved Mysteries you're gonna get
through this thing in about 40 minutes and this is available on HBO this is on Netflix all right so my number four
would be I love you now die which was released in 2019 it's two hours and 20 minutes it's available on
HBO Max 97 on Rotten Tomatoes it's that's pretty high Michelle Carter stands trial for
sending aggressive text messages to her boyfriend encouraging suicide before he was found dead by suicide in his car it
goes to the trial a lot and it's very sad I think depression and suicide are something that are very it's
a very complex issue very complex case and it's one of those cases I think throughout the documentary you go well
I see her being wrong but I don't know if that means that she's a murderer and you just but it's you're constantly
getting pulled back and forth on on what to think of this and I highly recommend
it I think it was very interesting and and and when they break down all the evidence it's it's definitely a
very interesting case so number four I love you now die Okay so we've not had any that have made both lists so far
right so my number three is called the hunt for the Boston bombers this was a TV movie it says TV movie but
it's actually a documentary but if you look it up on IMDb it says TV movie 2014 and of course this is the recounting of
oh here all your shows are old yeah yeah so um this one is about the 2013 terrorist bombing of the Boston Marathon
which I still remember going back to then the this horrible crime taking place and then it really took me a few days to
even process what what happened there in Boston it was such a strange terrorist attack and such a bizarre thing you know
you're hearing about this the the first bomb went off at 2 49 p.m April 15 2013. and I think it wasn't until that
Thursday that I fully wrapped my head around it it was you know some sometimes these things are so shocking when you
hear them on the news that it takes a while to to really set in and I didn't really know what to
make of it well these are very similar attacks to what was happening in Europe at the time so I think as far as law
enforcement they they kind of had a better understanding of it than than our public because it wasn't something that
was happening uh in this manner like it was in Europe so three days later the FBI released images of two suspects
so now they're like hey these are the guys that we think did this this is who we're we are looking for
and then what takes place after that is the two brothers who who committed this bombing amongst
other crimes along the way they decide to carjack um well they don't carjack and they're I
guess they were trying to get his gun or something they shot and killed a MIT campus police officer
and then they carjacked this this other guy but what they were doing was they not only did they carjack this guy they
take him hostage but they're they're also continuing to drive their vehicle as well in you know tandem driver
situation this guy ends up being able to escape they make a stop somewhere and he
escapes his cell phone remained in his vehicle so now you have all these agencies that
were working to find these two guys they know who it is now and they can track their whereabouts because of this dude's
cell phone now the documentary itself inside the the hunt for the Boston bombers it was
done on the National Geographic Channel and it was fascinating to see how they were able to pinpoint where the the
attacks took place at the marathon what time it was who was in the area who was affected by it how
can we get visuals of these people of the perpetrators and then translate that into the actual Manhunt for what they
were very obviously aware of fairly early on is two perpetrators a minimum of two guys were involved in this thing
but also after the the initial attack of the victims of the attack that were recovering in the hospital the ones that
were still alive were giving FBI and different law enforcement agents the best descriptions of these
individuals that they could and if anybody wants to see you know probably have heard of the the movie stronger
with a Jake Gyllenhaal but it's it's one of the best acting performances I think of that I've
ever seen and it has a lot to do with obviously uh Boston Marathon bombing so by that Friday night
you know just days later on that Friday night they they are really honing in and closing in on these
two guys and when I say they I mean think of just about any agency you can think of was
pretty much involved you had the FBI you had uh ice you had the state police you
had CIA I mean just about anybody you can think of you had local police you had and oddly enough we just recently
covered a case out of Somerville when you had Somerville police and and the Boston City police everybody was
involved in this it was something crazy like um I don't know how many hundreds or maybe even thousands of officers
agents what have you were in that area and what it boils down to is about a 20 block radius search for these guys and I
remember watching this on on a Friday night as it's happening there were like camera crews in the area watching
everything because you had Somerville and you had Watertown that day they woke up to news flashes and automated phone
calls to the homes telling everybody to shelter in place stay in your homes because there's danger in the area these
terrorists are in the area not only they in the area we are actively hunting them
with guns drawn in your area so um it I thought the the the uh crime of course is absolutely horrible but the
The Manhunt and the technology and the way that they hunted down these two guys I couldn't believe how fascinating it
was and it's told best in my opinion in this documentary from the National Geographic
Channel The inside the hunt for the Boston bombers is my number three [Music] [Music]
foreign [Music] we're back cheers mates cheers cheers cheers back to our list so
so far you have your number five is what my number five is nightmare in Las Cruces number four long shot number
three inside the hunt for the Boston bombers so my number five is Unsolved Mysteries but the first case Ray Rivera
number four is I love you now die number three is starring the crispy cornhole the Lake Erie murders
and I know that it was this is where it gets a little confusing for me because I
was even looking this up it looks like there's a a really long large series but the first three episodes are about
the Amy michalovic case and that's what I'm talking about the first three episodes it was released in
2019 it was on the ID channel I believe you can find it right now on Hulu I have watched this twice
this was about Amy michalovic 10 year old that went missing and murdered October 27
1989 to see the actual footage this is a case that we've talked about extensively
I've heard you in conversations at crime con talking about this case extensively
it's one that I've read a lot about but to see the actual footage to see the actual interviews of people that I've
only read about to actually see them was uh the main thing but also one of the reasons why I put it number three on
the list is how much information is presented and how they I think they did just did a
stellar job of breaking it down there's so many possible suspects and they they do it in such a clear and
formative way but where you're not getting bored the whole series is not actually rated
yet on Rotten Tomatoes but on IMDb it gets uh a 71 rating so the Lake Erie murders again
crisp you get to see the crispy kernel yelling at the camera and I think it's it's really good
documentary yeah so the first three as you said kind of kick off the whole thing and they're roughly what about an
hour each maybe you know once you take out the commercials 45 minutes each we'll say
and it's really just that Amy maholovic cases is one a fascinating case it's well known in that region this region of
the country and it was it had never been it was almost shocking that it had not been
done before a long-form documentary about that case I was very happy and honored to be a part of of that portion
of it that really kicks off what is to be all these other cases so for I've watched some of the actual episodes
since that came out and I kind of cherry pick I know a lot of the cases in this region so often I'll look for one that I
know or recognize maybe the victim's name but haven't really done any research on it
and it's all kind of fascinating stuff they do show some solved cases and that's interesting to me too I love when
people take unsolved stuff we don't have the answer and then oh sprinkle in a few
solved ones along the way so you can see how it got done or some of the cases went cold
you know they went cold for we're talking eight nine ten years right especially and some of these they look
like they had somebody good for it they look like they had a good suspect and you know you have situations
where it's either they just couldn't put them away needed some more information or they had the wrong guy and that's why
they didn't have the information because there is no real evidence on this dude so years later you end up getting the
case solved I think it's a brilliant series again I've not watched all of them or or anywhere near all of them but
from what I've seen I I like it very much and and uh yeah I that was going to be an honorable mention for me there Mr
Captain yeah I just think it's very informative and if you're interested in that case even if you've read a lot
about it you're going to learn something and you're gonna get to see people that
were involved all right so number two you're number two all right crispy colonel
number two I went with the uh Atlanta's missing and murdered the Lost Children of course this is a pretty recent one
this came out in 2020 it's on HBO as we are having this conversation well it is my number two as well so oh how about
that there you go okay it happened it's five episodes long yes is I thought it to be
easy to binge yeah I think some of the episodes are pretty short 40 minutes long so it's a Elena's missing in Murder
the Lost Children it's the abduction and murder of at least 30 African-American children and
young adults in Atlanta Between 1979 and 1981. it gets 94 on Rotten Tomatoes pretty
good score very good score yeah it was very interesting it kept me involved the entire time
I enjoyed it so much that I could have watched more episodes had they made them I don't think that they left anything
they not that they wanted me you know not that I felt that I was unfulfilled you know not that I felt
that uh they left some some big matzah balls out there and didn't didn't sum them up I I felt that
it was very thorough very well done I didn't agree I'm not gonna lie to you Captain I didn't agree with 30 or 40
percent of it but it was it was entertaining it yeah but it was a fascinating look at
this at this case and it was HBO I mean HBO is kind of the gold standard in my opinion for television and for
entertainment and they did not they did not um disappoint yeah here's one of the reasons why I
like this as a documentary it's not a All or Nothing type documentary if you watch the first Paradise loss for
example that's not an all-in documentary you can walk away going well maybe these
kids are guilty maybe they're innocent I'm not for sure by the time you get to the second part
of that documentary they're pretty all in on the idea that they believe that these teenagers are are innocent
and that's what I mean by all in documentary you see this also with like making murder
and some other big documentaries I thought this was very well done they I think they did a really good job
of going back and forth from the old footage because I think sometimes that stuff can
you can get lost in the old footage if they don't present it a certain way but I I think the thing I liked most about
it was again it just it wasn't all or nothing even when they're arguing certain points
they they keep reiterating this is not uh to prove that Wayne Williams is innocent of all the crimes he just might
be innocent of of a couple um and I really like that about about the documentary I also thought the intro
was really interesting how they would take those photographs and they would turn them into ink and they would Fade
Into the other photographs I thought it was yeah very well done and and very similar to like with like the Amy
michalovic the Lake Erie murders or I love you now die or even the Unsolved Mysteries I think
what you're seeing on my list is a bunch of documentaries that are not you know beat you over the head that
here's what we believe and you better think this when the documentary is over as opposed to how some other documents
documentaries have been made so that's my number two as well yeah it was very well put together it's a it's an easy
watch because it is so informative and interesting you learn a lot of things not only about the case but the city of
Atlanta shortly before during and after the crimes took place and even the trial
of of Wayne Williams which I believe didn't go down until like 83 maybe even 84. it was a while before he was
actually at trial and sentenced but I'm a big fan of Keisha Lance bottoms the the mayor of Atlanta and I you know I'm
I'm not Democrat I'm not Republican I'm a person that identifies I scream and identifies and recognizes people who I
think are of good moral character and interesting brilliant people and she I think is fascinating Atlanta's got a
good mayor down there she cares about this case she cares that I mean look technically like 28 maybe
even 30 of these things aren't closed cases right you know there there's no conviction even though the FBI and even
though the prosecutor said we're going to try Wayne Williams on these two cases but oh we're going to
link eight or nine or ten of these to him as well and it seemed like on that day you know it was when they got a
conviction on Wayne Williams yes it was a celebration for the city that the monster that captured him the dragon has
been slayed we've put them away you feel really good that day but then very quickly afterwards you're going wait a
second we got all these cases that are technically unsolved and so I think Keisha Lance bottoms is doing
gangbusters work down there in Atlanta I think she's fantastic and her going and
saying you know what I'm encouraging the police to reopen these cases and the police Atlanta Police Department have
said yes we're going to do this in the Atlanta Police Department even up front and center says look at the time when
this was going on we didn't really know how to investigate this we had um we had problems with our Police
Department on on different things at that time too and so this is an error that we are happy to jump in and try to
correct so kudos to the Atlanta Police Department kudos to Mayor bottoms and as said she was originally a prosecutor
who represented children in juvenile court in the early stages of her career she was a a Magistrate Judge at one
point in Atlanta so getting back to her Roots a little bit before uh her days as
a mayor and I thought that one opening up this case again then this allows HBO to come in and get involved and document
the the case as it was back then and update us on how the community feels today some people that are new to the
area some people that live through this some of them being law enforcement or or
family members of victims or or church leaders you know people that are important to this community how they
feel about it then and how they feel about it today and hopefully we'll continue to get some progress in that
case and and I think I think the documentary brought up some interesting questions
uh one you know one thing it pointed out to me Captain that I kind of forgot about was
the the racist family or brothers I don't have their their names in front of me right here in my notes but Sanders
yeah the thing that that jumped off the screen to me when when I was watching this documentary I was like oh yeah they
they did cover that portion and mine Hunters yeah you know they they showed them questioning these racist
brothers or racist cousins or whatever they were they they were surveillance of them for a long time and they brought
them in for questioning I think twice and and basically law enforcement during mine hunter was going your wasting your
time these guys they know the routine you bring them down they'll answer a couple questions then they get their
lawyer right because they're career criminals they're just career bad guys they do bad stuff they know how to duck
and Dodge the police well and they're part of this very powerful white supremacist group in Elena and it wasn't
the KKK it was a branch it was a national list or so I don't have that name either who I didn't even when I see
that type of ignorance I don't even want to write down their organization name or
or burn it to memory but it was also these dudes and their their dealings were very much in the world of drugs as
well they were doing drugs they were dealing drugs and you know there were law enforcement at the time that said
these guys have been too hopped up on drugs to to get away with any of this business but it does bring up some good
interesting questions and it was a fantastic documentary still available on demand on HBO so I definitely obviously
the captain is backing me on this one two thumbs up watch this one and the reason why it's number two on my list is
this is a case that I've never really been that into I've read some stuff about it we covered it here on the show
but just never really thought about you know it's good like take a JonBenet Ramsey case how many
times have you just randomly Googled stuff that you just wanted to know I wonder did they ever
ask the parents this I wonder if they ever ask her brother this this documentary was so good that it has
me going through the case again or just randomly Googling pieces of information to see what I can find out about it it
does again a good job of giving you information from multiple sides not really pushing too hard of an agenda
other than these cases need to be solved and need to people need to spend time and attention on them
but um but I think it does a good job of of hooking you into the case even more yeah and it was weird for me because
when it was coming out I was like oh look I'm not gonna I've been I've been pretty open book about this anything
that HBO puts out I'm I'm slightly interested in just because I think they do such a good job right and so I was
going oh they're they're going to tackle this big huge case from back in the day that intrigued me
to see how they would do it but what didn't intrigue me was the case selection because as you said
I was never that interested in this case in recent years because in my younger days I had I felt pretty
well informed about the case having got the information from Robert keppel's book and from John Douglas's book and
then a e covered it at one time and there was American Justice took a a new look at it several times over the years
so I always felt like you know that this was one that's been done time and time again been there done that but this is
is very worth worth the watch very worth the number two spot on both of our lists
is okay Captain with you if I go to my number one yeah that's how it works that's how it works
well I didn't know if you had anything else you wanted to throw in there um number one for me this is from the
Netflix world and it came out in 2018 and may of 2018. so this would have been just after
we did our last list and it's called Evil Genius the true story of America's most diabolical bank
heist yeah this is one a case that fascinated me to begin with but then to see that somebody
was going to do a documentary on it and Netflix did a bang Em Up job I mean a fantastic job by the Netflix people this
is also a case that sometimes referred to as the collar bomb or the pizza bomber case and it was a four-part
series the first episode was the heist two was the frozen body three was the suspects
and four was the confessions confessions so it was interesting it's a bizarre case it's one of the most bizarre cases
that I can think of offhand and yes that's from 2018 on Netflix and I consider that to be a must must watch
that's your number one number one number one proper number one okay so mine is this number one it it it's gonna get a
little convoluted a little bit here so it starts off my number one starts off with a docu drama which we didn't
say was going to be on the list but it's called when they see us it was a four-part
docudrama and it's about the 1989 case of five teenagers wrongfully wrongfully convicted of raping a woman
in Central Park now what happened was I watched because of one of our lists you had the Central Park five on your
list which is a Ken Burns and Sarah Burns great document documentary and you said you gotta watch this
so I watched it was about two hours long it's great 92 percent on Rotten Tomatoes
after I watched that there was a lot of advertisements about when they see us and I saw
big back in the day Dawson's Creek fan Joshua Jackson plays one of the kids attorneys
and so I believe it was on Netflix or HBO I don't know which one it's on actually
but when I saw this little preview with Joshua Jackson I said oh let me give this a shot yes I just watched this
documentary about it but I kind of want to see how they portray it in the first episode
they take you into these interrogations of these children and I don't even know if they're over
the top but it I think there's a thing about the Central Park five documentary by Ken Burns that's a little
sterile that's a little more informative and less uh emotive this four-part series when
they see us is probably more about the emotion and less about the actual facts of the case well that's
that that's natural it's a docudrama yeah dramatization when you when they see us is Netflix I I just
highly recommend it it might be in the top I don't know maybe three most powerful things I've ever watched
like it felt really important to be watching it and I think the first episode is really good
and I remember watching the first episode and getting done with it and you kind of get excited
it's kind of like when you watch mine hunter for the first time or you watch making a murder for the first time you
watch one episode and you went damn this is good what's next right but I already thought I knew the story
but once they get to part four it becomes basically all about Corey wise which is the one of I believe the oldest
that was charged and it was basically his story about how he ended up getting convicted and what
where he spent time and how he spent time and then how his connections uh brought new evidence to this case
and it's just one of the most powerful things I've ever seen on TV and these kids and these teenage
actors portraying things in such a way that you're just I mean it was exhausting like when I got done I I
felt better for watching it but if I felt exhausted and and it's also really sad that if you
watch the the documentary and then you watch this docu drama that there's still people out there that still think these
kids are guilty yeah of this crime and and you know what that is just something that I don't know that I know how far we
evolve or Advance ourselves I don't know that that ever goes away for some people
that when you have someone who confesses to a crime there's just some people that
they can't get over well they confess to it why would they confess to it if they
didn't do it right you know some people will never be able to get over that and that whatever I mean but refresh my
memory because we put I put the um Central Park five movie on my list back in 2016 so it's
been four or five maybe longer years since I've seen it the way that I remember this going down was they
arrested these these kids who were quote unquote Hooligans running a muck in the
park right and they're like hey look the interrogators are hey dude we know that
you did this you and your friends did this because their your friends are telling us they did it and you were
involved now you're going to be in big trouble unless you start telling us who in the group did this and what they did
and then so now you got kids making up stories against one another and worse but it wasn't even friends it was like
well I said kids right but it would be not friends and that that was the interesting thing some of these dudes
kind of just knew each other from school but they weren't they weren't boys you know they weren't they weren't best
friends or or maybe even friends like you're saying right or some of these people they didn't even know so when
they when them detective comes in and says hey by the way Charlie is saying that you're the one that raped the girl
and this guy's like I'm like who's Charlie you know right and there's a scene where this I mean there's just so
many powerful scenes but there's a scene where there's a kid that's really good at
trumpet and he drops off his trumpet before he goes into the Central Park that night and he's interrogated and
there's a couple times that he asked for his mother and it's just gut wrenching and to know it's really important to see
these things even if it's just acted out to have a really good understanding this
is how the system is or was and this is how sometimes these systems are created and it's our job to to have an
understanding of those so we can call that out as Injustice so anyways we got our top five
I'll go over mine real quick Unsolved Mysteries case number one number four I love you now die
number three the Lake Erie murders number two Elena's missing and murdered the Lost Children
and then number one when they see us also the Central Park five by Ken Burns and I went with number five nightmare in
Las Cruces number four long shot number three inside the hunt for the Boston bombers at number two we both had the
same selection and a mighty fine one at that Atlanta's missing and murdered the lost children and for number one I went
with Netflix's Evil Genius all right do we have any notables well honorable mentions some of my
honorable mentions were covered in your your five um but one that jumps off the page to me
was the innocent man and this was Netflix and it's a documentary well a series it's six episodes
and this was from really that doesn't seem right it says it's from 2012 but that that can't be
right seems from oh no I'm sorry Netflix December 2018. I had the wrong thing there in my
notes but it's John Grisham it's built around John grisham's 2006 book The Innocent Man murder and Injustice in a
small town yeah Grisham he wrote but the firm Rainmaker well let me look him up I think that's right I mean they're both
fictitious great great movies but uh the client the Pelican Brief The Rainmaker yeah the first The Firm yeah
the time to kill is a great movie he just loves lawyer movies and he loves to put him in the South that's his that's
his uh bag of tricks but I watched The Firm the other day and it it just doesn't hold up as well you know
you know what does hold up a movie that I could watch a hundred times The Rainmaker Oh that's oh fantastic
claridanes yeah and uh Matt Damon so Danny DeVito oh he's great in that one uh what's what were we talking about
okay so one of the ones that should have been higher on my list or should have been I guess on my list is the case
against Adnan Syed which was a four-part documentary uh HBO which you can find out on HBO
another one that I thought was pretty good now this is my oldest one on the list was beware the Slenderman which is
HP as well another good one and then have you seen I'll be gone in the dark okay which is HBO as well I was actually
thinking about that on my way to the garage today because I have watched the first episode
but I got several more to go so we'll see here Captain does it make the kernel list for next year let us know what you
think go to True Crime garage.com or Instagram or Facebook we'll have a little post on all the
different social media platforms and just let us know what you think or give us some suggestions to watch because I
like to write those down and when we do get a free chance in between cases I'll actually make time to dive into some
documentaries that I miss along the way so I always appreciate that and we'll have our list for our top five true
crime documentaries on the blog at truecrimegarage.com [Music] I want to thank everybody for joining us
this week in the garage you're welcome hopefully you guys have enough to check out enough to binge gave you something
to chew on right yeah something binge-worthy so until next week be good be kind and don't litter
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Lists for Blog Captain 1. When They See Us - Netflix / The Central Park Five - PBS/ Amazon 2. Atlanta’s Missing & Murdered - The Lost Children - HBO 3. The Lake Erie Murders - ID channel 4. I Love You, Now Die - HBO 5. Unsolved Mysteries - Episode #1 Rey Rivera - Netflix

Nic 1. Evil Genius - Netflix 2. Atlanta’s Missing & Murdered - The Lost Children - HBO 3. Inside the Hunt for the Boston Bombers - National Geographic / Amazon 4. Long Shot - Netflix 5. Nightmare in Las Cruces - Amazon

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Nick and Captain share their top five true crime documentaries, highlighting intriguing cases and impactful storytelling.

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True Crime Garage Introduction. Hosts welcome listeners and introduce the show with excitement.
Beer Fund Shoutouts. Hosts thank listeners who contributed to the beer fund.
Documentary Discussion Begins. Hosts dive into their favorite true crime documentaries, sharing their thoughts.
A Nightmare in Las Cruces. Discussion about a documentary on an unsolved case involving a bowling alley massacre.
The Hunt for the Boston Bombers. Hosts recount the events surrounding the Boston Marathon bombing and the manhunt that followed.
Inside the Hunt for the Boston Bombers. A gripping documentary that dives deep into the Boston bombers' case, revealing shocking details.

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