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has lasted 10 years. [music] And one family doesn't want you to forget two missing teenage girls. This is KOAF News
at 10. I'm Rhonda Justice >> and I'm Dal Quick. Tomorrow marks the 10th anniversary of the murders of Danny
and Kathy Freeman and the disappearance of their daughter and her friend. The Freemans were murdered and their home
was burned to the ground in Welch, Oklahoma, December 30th, 1999. Their 16-year-old daughter, Ashley, was
hosting a birthday sleepover with her friend Laura Bible. While the bodies of the Freeman parents were found inside
the burned home, no trace of Ashley and Laura were ever found. Laura's mother hopes someone could still come forward
with information and collect the $50,000 reward. We're going to have more on the
anniversary and the investigation tomorrow. >> [music] [music] >> We were getting into the theories
regarding the unsolved murders of Danny Freeman and his wife Kathy Freeman, as well as the mysterious disappearances of
their daughter Ashley Freeman and her friend Laura Bible, which took place December 30th, 1999.
>> Continuing on with those theories, one we hadn't got to yet was theory number
three, that the police had killed Danny and his wife and then set fire to the the trailer, destroying evidence and
abducting the girls. Let's talk about this one here for a second because this is one that is near and dear to the the
hearts and minds of the Freeman family. There's a lot of family members that believe that this is the actual
situation. >> Um >> Well, when one of your loved ones comes out and says, "Hey, if anything ever
happens to me, uh look into the sheriff department." >> Yeah. And that's exactly what Danny had
said to his brother Dwayne before uh he was killed. Right. And he had also told his brother that that according to Danny
that he was told by the sheriff's department that they could do anything that they wanted to him and his family
and there wasn't a thing that Danny could do about it. >> I never would have thought when we
started the likelihood that law enforcement would be involved or possibly involved in so many different
cases. >> Yeah, this is something that we seem to bump up against time and time again when
we're covering these unsolved cases. But the situation here is we spoke about Danny's runin with the law. You know,
this all occurred after his son Shane was shot by the police. >> Now, the situation is this that we also
have some other factoring things here. Not only was Danny following around and hanging out in front of the officer's
home and being followed by the officers as well, but according to local accounts
that Danny Freeman once threatened the lives of police officer David Hayes, this is the officer that shot and killed
his son Shane. >> The other thing is that Danny, according again to Dwayne, his brother, said that
the sheriff's department was threatening him as well. So, we sounded like, you know, Danny was uh the harasser and also
being harassed himself. And I don't know all of the specifics regarding their son
being shot, but all reports that I have read seems to me like it was a justified
shooting by police as well as, you know, they did conduct their own investigation
and they state that it was a justified shooting that the officer David Hayes that he was simply defending himself
against an armed man that was rumored to be suicidal that wanted suicide by cop that was seemed to be out willing, you
know, willingly committing crime after crime, >> right? I think your vocabulary is wrong.
I I don't think it was a man. You know, I still at that point, I think he's a boy.
>> Mentally, he seemed very much like a a boy at that time. But the the the situation is this, okay, there is no
evidence to suggest this theory is correct. Um the the officer David Hayes uh who shot and killed the son Shane,
his brother is in law enforcement as well. Now both of them have taken polygraph exams after the girl's
disappearance. Um and there was nothing within those exams to conclude or suspect either one of them of having any
involvement in the disappearance or the murder of the Freeman's and Laura Bible.
Now, we also have that they're not even considered suspects in this investigation. And one thing that I want
to make clear, too, that they were never personally involved in the investigation
of the murders or the disappearance because there was a conflict of interest. So, as soon as this case took
off, they immediately got the the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation involved and they took over the case
because there like like said, there's a conflict of of interest there. >> Yeah. There is one strange connection that I
would like to bring up though and this this would kind of further the law enforcement conspiracy theory here is
that uh several of the girls relatives participated in a pilot of a television program called What Really Happened.
This took place in October of 2001. The show was not purchased by any of the networks and has never been uh
broadcasted. Now, there was a woman named Deanna Dorsy. Uh she's a nurse who assisted the Freeman's on the night of
Shane's death. She appeared on the show, you know, gave interviews and such. >> The other connection for Deanna Dorsy is
that her daughter was a friend of Ashley's back in 1999. Now, Deanna was shot and killed at the hospital where
she worked. This was shortly after a taping of this show, What Really Happened. authorities said, "Okay, hold
on." >> So, this nurse comes out and she's on this TV program that never gets picked
up, >> right? >> But for everybody, all accounts, people thought it was going to get picked up
and she comes out and makes these claims on this show and then she is killed at her work.
>> She I don't know that she claimed that law enforcement was involved. All I'm saying is that she gave interviews
regarding this this TV show. Now, this would have been known in the area throughout the community that this show
was taking place, that they're recording and they're interviewing different people.
>> I mean, right. Again, let's remind everybody this is a town of 600 people. >> Mhm.
>> You know, so we're a very small community. >> Yeah. And the neighboring town, which is
the large one, has over 6,000 people. So, again, another small community. The situation is this, though. My guess is
that she's probably uh somebody that you would want to seek out to interview because at this point when you're when
you're making this show, the parents of Shane no longer exist to conduct these interviews. She was close to the family
and helped them during the grieving process when they lost their son, >> right? >> And so she would have known some
intimate details regarding the death of Shane and regarding how the family was trying to cope with the loss of their
son. Deanna Dorsy. She was shot and killed by a man named Ricky Martin. >> And he was a former employee of the same
of [clears throat] the same hospital where they both had worked. Now this gentleman Ricky Martin, he suffered from
paranoid schizophrenia. >> Well, he also suffered from shaking his bon bon. Well, they believe that he was
angry because he was let go from his job and that he came into work and he shot Deanna Dorsy at at his former work.
>> I'm sorry to be insensitive. It's just it's hilarious. His name is hilarious.
>> Now, I think why people connect this to, you know, there's some obvious connections immediately, you know, with
with Deanna Dorsy having been close to the Freeman family and her daughter knows Ashley Freeman. So, there's those
connections. She's involved in the taping of this TV show. But I think what kind of tops that theory off, the
conspiracy theory off here is that Ricky Martin was was shot and killed by police
that same day. And you know how it is. It's it's oh, he was shutting her up and now we're shutting him up. Um, but the
thing is he he did he st he suffered from this this disease and he must have freaked out. That's the only thing they
can come up with is that he freaked out about having been let go and that he went in there with the intention of
harming somebody as a type of revenge for losing his job. The >> or shooting up the whole place. It
doesn't look like it was >> she was I think just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't think she was
targeted directly by Ricky Martin. And you have good reason to believe that be because law enforcement and the hospital
itself have come out and stated that the two of them didn't know each other that
that even though that they worked in the same location, no one could make any ties between the two of them that that
that Ricky Martin would have had any reason to target her or that specifically went there to kill her. She
just happened to [clears throat] be the person that he encountered when he was on this rampage. Well, well, we normally
know where I sit on these things. Captain Conspiracy. >> You've been accused many times of loving
a good conspiracy. >> Yeah, I'm guilty as charge. It's cuz I'm crazy. But where do you sit on this?
>> Um, >> the the whole police theory that the police was involved. >> I don't think that the police theory
holds any weight for me. I I see where we have the confrontation between Danny and the other officers
>> and the harassment. Yeah, I I see that. And And here's here's where I'm going to
take this thing. Did Danny cross the line? In my opinion, yes. [snorts] Did law enforcement cross the line in this
situation before this family was murdered? Um, I don't know. And I'll tell you why. Because here's the thing.
We have reports of Danny sitting in his vehicle in front of Officer Hayes's home. Mhm.
>> That's much different to me than if you were if if you sat in front of my home
in a vehicle multiple times, I would feel like you're threatening my family. If you personally just said something to
my face where you threatened me, >> I would take that a that would be a lot less to me than a threat of you sitting
in front of my family's home. >> Noted. >> Now, I do understand blue blood, man.
You got to have your you got to have your brothers and sisters backs. You know, you can't we can't have
disgruntled citizens sitting in front of officers homes intimidating them. However, I don't think that your way of
taking care of that problem is that would make any sense. It doesn't make any sense to go and kill and murder the
family and abduct these girls. To me, um you they would have had means of taking
down Danny Freeman. I believe I believe they that that if some of the rumors were true regarding Danny and his
behavior, >> right, >> I believe they probably could have arrested him on on a number of charges
>> and that they would have felt safe with their families and and their personal
safety having him simply behind bars and not have to do harm to innocent people that happen to be in family members or
associated with Danny. So, I think that's why it doesn't hold any weight for me. I think that the police, if they
and the sheriff's department, if they really wanted to correct the problem by being bullies, they could have done it
by different means. >> Right. So, what you're saying is pretty much what I think as well, but I'm I'm
going to put a little clearer, right? I don't think you were as clear as we could be. Crystal clear, right? So what
you're saying is and what I believe is that they could have they could have removed Danny from the situation or they
could have just taken care of Danny. >> Mhm. >> And why would you involved, you know,
the wife? >> Mhm. >> Then and then also why would you involve the daughter? And then on top of that,
why would you involve the daughter's friend, >> right? >> That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I think part of them felt bad because this guy was harassing them, but I think part of them felt bad like we had to do
our job. We had to defend ourselves, but I guarantee you they didn't feel good about themselves.
>> No. >> When when they got home, here's this kid that was suffering from maybe a mental
illness, maybe just, you know, maybe it was depression. Who knows? >> But he was acting out for some reason.
he was acting out and they had this officer had to defend his life and that that's a a tough thing for that officer
to have to do. And then it's a small town, small community. You have to look this father in the eye and you know what
you did, but you know what you did was right and to defend yourself. The problem with any of these police
conspiracies or these law enforcement conspiracies is if it was just Danny, they just found
Danny dead in the home. It was a blaze and nobody else was dead, nobody was missing. Well,
>> yeah. >> Look to the sheriff. >> Mhm. But these people that want to start thinking that law enforcement would take
an innocent person that has nothing to do with anything and to, you know, murder that person or place that person
on somebody's property after after they murdered him. It makes zero sense. >> Mhm. Yeah. And I think you really hit
upon something here because I think that that's probably the reason why they never arrested Danny for any of these
things and put him behind bars so that he couldn't hurt their families. I think they were trying to show Danny a bit of
compassion, >> right? >> And and in the means that did they threaten him or threaten his his family?
I believe that probably happened. Yeah. >> And but I don't think that they had any
intention of carrying out those threats. Now, remind you, I'm a thousand miles removed from the situation and and you
know, many years later, but the but my gut feeling tells me that, you know, when when you're sitting out in front of
my home and I know that that I >> unfortunately was thrown into a situation where I had to defend myself
and your son lost his life. I can see I could see myself saying, "You know what?
I'm going to deal with this problem of him being in front of my home by him intimidating my family. I'm going to
deal with this problem with words and not with fist, not with cuffs, not with guns. I'm going to deal with it with
words. And if I have to get into an argument with this gentleman or if I have to have an exchange with this
gentleman and he's threatening me and it leads me to threaten him, I I can believe that the threats happen. But
again, I don't think there there was any intention of carrying out any of those threats.
>> Well, and the big red flag here, too, is initially at the scene, it was just Kathy that they found dead. It wasn't
until um it wasn't until the Bibles came around that they found Danny dead themselves or or you know the dog's
help. Yeah. So, you know, if you're trying to cover something up, you'd think you'd do a better job of uh
policing the crime scene. >> Well, not only that, they released the crime scene very early. You know, that's
why the Bibles found Danny's body. And then to further that, the the following day after Danny's body was found, they
opened up that property because it was a large property to volunteers. They had over 500 people there that day searching
the property for any evidence regarding the the whereabouts of the girls or, you
know, possible evidence of who committed these murders, >> right? So, what you're saying is why
open this up for a search party if you're trying to contain it? Yeah, >> it would be really fishy if they said,
"You know what? Yeah, we understand we got two missing girls here, but we don't want you searching the property."
>> They could have sat on that property for days and days and days, >> right? That would have been fishy. So,
look, I know I I know you start getting this gut feeling. I know you're listening to this case out there and you
start thinking, "Oh, maybe it's law enforcement." I'm my gut is telling me after you look at the evidence, after
you look at the procedures that took place, I don't think there's a lot of weight to that theory. So, let's remind
everybody what the remaining three theories were regarding this case. Now, mind you, these are theories based off
of law enforcement, based off of people in the community, family members. These are these are their theories. And I want
to go through these three because I think what we're going to cover next in in the second half of today's show will
I want you to think about these different suspects as we go through them and how they could fit into either of
these theories cuz they're they're somewhat similar. So theory number four was that the police were not involved
but Danny was targeted and he was the target due to drug activity. >> Theory number five was that the girls
were actually the target. that the motivation for this attack was abduction and that the parents were just killed in
the fire was set to hide evidence and abduct the girls. >> Human trafficking. >> And then the sixth theory that they were
working off of was that someone that knew the family had killed the Freeman's and abducted the girls. And
>> it's so interesting to me when there's multiple confessions into a case. >> Mhm. Well, they start rolling in and
this the first one comes 18 months after the crime was committed and this is a jailhouse confession by several inmates.
Um they state that they had seen the girls or had knowledge of the girls being at a home that was in the area.
This home is also known to law enforcement. And this would have been on New Year's Eve 1999. So, the day after
the girls were abducted, these guys were saying that they had knowledge or seen the girls there. Now, this was a
suspected drug house. >> Um, their accounts are this >> that that the girls were being held
captive there. They were being assaulted and tortured and they didn't know what happened to the girls, but they knew
that they were there on that date. the situation. The the police, they have rumor to believe this because like I
said, this is already a home that is known to law enforcement. This is a home that they
>> drug house. >> Yeah. They keep an eye on the house. They keep an eye on the occupants of the
house. So, they get a search warrant, the necessary warrant, and they decide to raid the home.
>> Good. >> They do not find any evidence of the girls having been there. Now, mind you,
this is 18 months later. They did find um a lot of evidence regarding um methamphetamine manufacturing
>> and so they were able to take down the the necessary people because of that and
make charges there. The other strange thing is that one of the jail house confessors claimed that there was a tape
of some of a VHS tape of some of the activity that was going on that day in that home and that he didn't know where
the tape would be located or where it could be found, but he had viewed a portion of that tape at some point.
>> And the the tape would have been of them being tortured. Is that what they're
saying? Um the probably most likely um you know you don't have to use your imagination too much to to to think of
what could be on that tape. Um now I could not locate these >> the the men that made these statements.
I could not locate their names and that doesn't surprise me because they're >> right but essentially it's not a
confession because they're not the ones that were you know they didn't abduct the girls. They're the ones that said,
"Hey, well, we were at this party >> and we knew about it. We turned a blind eye." That's kind of what they're
confessing to, >> right? Well, which would be a crime, but they're probably sitting down stating
that, you know what, I can give you I can give you what I know as long as this doesn't come back on me,
>> right? You're guilty of being a piece of [ __ ] >> Yes. Um the but again, I it doesn't
surprise me that we cannot locate the names of these guys because it's a jailhouse confession. They're not going
to release these names. That's the kind of stuff that they, you know, you get the prison justice within the walls. Uh
they >> Yeah. But part of the other reason that they wouldn't release this stuff is that
they're they're confessing to being a part of something. You know, again, not the ones that captured these girls, but
they're at this party with these known drug dealers that by all accounts, if you're saying if what they're saying is
true, these people murdered these people. uh they these people murdered the parents and then abducted these
teenage girls >> and so law enforcement doesn't have to say who who said this stuff,
>> right? >> You know, and obviously I think law enforcement felt like there was some
validity there because they did the raid. >> Yeah. >> So again, that that doesn't mean that
that what they're saying is not true. >> It could be it could be true. Yes. But but as an inmate, if I sit down and I'm
going to pass along knowledge of something I know about of a horrible crime, I'm not going to want you to use
my name. >> You know, >> well, I don't want anybody to use my name. >> Well, the the my final thought on this
theory here, Captain, is is there is one little tidbit of of evidence here. If if
in fact these stories are true, then the one gentleman stated that well I shouldn't say gentleman, the one dude
stated that there was a VHS tape. Now um does that tape still exist? I would I would the smart wager in me would say no
that it's probably been destroyed and gotten rid of. Um, but keep that in the back of your mind there because these
things have, you know, the truth has a way of coming out in in the long run. And this is something that you could
hold on to that that there might be some evidence out there that somebody could stumble across one day or find one day
and we would be able to to just punch microphones. >> We would be able to solve this case
regarding this situation. Well, and this goes back to my original thoughts of why
the heck they probably moved out there to begin with. I mean, if you're just trying to grow a little pot, you know,
maybe you'd want some land. I'm not saying that people want just want land anyways, but when they talk about drug
activities and being a royal area, I kept on saying that there's probably meth and fetamines or or something of
that nature going on. >> Oh, it's definitely going on in the area. Yeah, >> it's definitely going on in the area.
I'm saying going on with Danny. That's my gut feeling. So to me, I mean, this is super creepy. If if you Why would you
take these girls hostage other than for human trafficking and then you're going to videotape their tort them being
tortured or sexually abused or whatever? You're a sick individual. >> You know what I mean? And it it's very
uh kind of reminding me of uh True Detective season 1, which was a crazy show. But anyways, that to me, there's
so many creepy levels of that. And uh I wish we would know I want to know where the investigation
took them further, but if these people were just uh making drugs and then up their game as far as criminal activity,
they might have fled the area. and we never will know who it was and it probably was multiple people as well.
>> Do you think it's a possibility? Because you know there's there's usually rumors
amongst criminals, right? There's there's there's rumors amongst that crowd. Um do you think that there's a
possibility that these guys in jail that that maybe had heard a rumor that this drug house was involved somehow with
these girls or the death of Danny and thought, you know what, >> we're going to try to help. There's
Well, not only that, there's a reward and and maybe if if this rumor is right, I'm going to go I'm going to pretend
like I know something and uh maybe I get out early. Maybe I get released early, you know? Maybe just kind of taking a a
shot in the dark there. >> Yeah, possibly. But I think the VHS tape, it's either just a detail
that you heard or, you know, it could have been a detail you make you make up. I don't know to make yourself seem a
little more believable. But, uh, I think there's some weight to this and and there makes and this theory makes some
logical sense. Let's get into more theories right after this quick beer break. [music]
[music] All right, [music] we're back. Cheers, mates. >> Cheers. We have a confession to get to
here, and this is from an article titled, "Authorities investigate death row killers claims." This is from the
Joplain Globe back in May of 2002. And I'll read some pieces of this uh article so we can get a a good idea of what's
going on. Tommy Lynn Cells, aged 38, who is considered one of the nation's most prolific serial killers, made the claim
in a letter to the Joplin Globe postmarked May 10th. This is he's claiming to know the whereabouts of the
two missing girls. >> Cells had previously claimed involvement in the 1999 disappearance of Ashley
Freeman and Laura Bible, but he said that he couldn't remember any details. In the letter, Cells said he could now
take authorities to where the girls are buried. He says that he wants, you know,
what does he remember about December 30th? Well, he states that he he wants to say this, that he remembers where the
two bodies are, and he believes he can take them to the bodies, and he also wants to remember a fire. Tommy Cells
was a drifter and sometimes carnival mechanic. During his 20 plus years on the road, Cells claims he has murdered
more than 50 people. Authorities have confirmed 17 of his kills, some of them in Illinois, Missouri, and Oklahoma.
Authorities said that they are skeptical of the serial killer's latest claim, but
said that they will talk to him. >> Right. But what we do know is that he was in the area. you know, he has
killings in that area. >> Uh they they state that he would be considered a very good suspect or at
least a suspect. Um and they said that they don't want to talk, the authorities don't want to talk about the credibility
of anything. Uh because, you know, they're going to talk to him because they don't have very many leads
in this case and they want to check everything out. >> Well, what happens when they talk to
him? Well, his previous claim was that he couldn't remember anything or any of the details regarding the case or the
crime itself. Now, after some some more time has elapsed, now he's all of a sudden he's clear about what happened
and he can lead him to the bodies. He can talk about the details of the murders.
The end result is that they take him to where he said he disposed of the bodies.
And this was near the Red River, which is on the border of Oklahoma and Texas. Mhm.
>> And the first of all, they don't find any remains or any evidence uh that that
the girls were ever there or that their bodies were there. Uh furthermore, the way that he had described the area and
the location of where they would find these bodies beforehand, once they take him to the location, it it doesn't even
match up with with his description of where he says he placed the bodies. Furthermore, he couldn't give any real
details about the crime itself regarding how the Freeman's were killed, how the crime went down. Um, he didn't know any
details to to further make them believe that he had any insight to give them. It
was >> Yeah. And you think with all these goofy false confessions that law enforcement
would get to the point where they go, "Okay, well, in this scenario, we have two dead bodies, right?"
>> Mhm. give me details of these >> right >> before we go on a wild goose chase looking for these missing girls.
>> Well, and they actually did because he wanted to talk about this previously and
he couldn't provide him with any information. So, they didn't take him out on the road. They they waited until
he stated, you know, now now I know this information. Now, I can pass along this
information. They believe that everything that he was telling them was stuff that he would have been able to
find in the newspapers, right? You know, stuff that that you and I could have told them about the crimes. So, this
basically goes nowhere and we're back to square one. >> Yeah. This leaves us with a second
confession and this comes from a guy by the name of Jeremy Jones and I'll take you through a little bit of his
background so we can figure out if if his confession will carry more weight than that of Tommy Lels.
>> So, back in 1997, uh, Jones receives probation. He's put on probation for 5 years. uh he's living
in the Oklahoma area and dur he's put on probation because he has committed sexual assault, three counts of sexual
assault actually. So he receives 5 years of probation right in the year 2000 in December of 2000.
>> In the year 2000 >> he leaves Oklahoma and he goes to Alabama. Now, during the course of him
leaving the state, he has assumed a new identity and he's even received a social
security number along with personal info. Uh he got this from a woman whose son was in prison in Missouri. So, he
steals this person's identity and he's now in Alabama. Well, while in Alabama in 2003,
he's arrested for indecent exposure. In 2004, he's arrested for criminal trespassing.
Now, the problem here is, Captain, that during both of those arrests, you know, fingerprints are taken, and they fail to
realize the real identity of this person. He's now going by the alias of John Paul Chapman, real name Jeremy
Jones. The authorities after two arrests, they do not make the connection that John Paul Chapman is actually
Jeremy Jones. >> Mhm. >> In 2004, he is arrested for the rape slaying of a 45year-old woman. This is Lisa Nichols
and this took place in Alabama. Now, he shot her. He mutilated the body and he set her trailer on fire.
>> The the situation is as such. He states that they were out together, that she
asked him to come back to her home, and at some point he believes she was trying
to rob him. She was going through his things or his backpack or something like that, and he flew into a druginduced
rage, killed her, and set the trailer on fire. The problem here is we have a situation where it's so much similar to
the Freeman murder. You know, we have people that were shot in a trailer trailer set on fire.
>> Yeah. He's he's looking pretty suspicious at this point. >> Well, to make matters worse, you know,
we already have this horrific killing of of the the woman, Lisa Nichols, >> but law enforcement failed to discover
his true identity. You know, he was he was on probation and that probation was revoked in the year 2000.
>> Mhm. >> So, he would have he's a fugitive from the law at this point. So, even though
you have something as small as an indecent exposure or a criminal trespassing charge, this would they they
would then f, you know, ship your butt back to Oklahoma and poor Lisa Nichols would still be alive. I I don't want to
harp on law enforcement too much because for those of for those of people that don't know that the fingerprinting
process is pretty complicated and it it's not uncommon that that things identities or such could slip through
the cracks regarding fingerprints. Well, and technology is way ahead now >> and it but it's a little troubling when
it happens, you know, more than once with the same individual, especially somebody as heinous as as Jeremy Jones,
as evil as he is. Because while he is while they're waiting to convict him, we we got a guy, he ends up confessing to a
total of 13 murders, they only end up charging him with three of those. um they could only find evidence enough to
con get a conviction of three of those. But what happens later is that he then confesses to the murders of Danny
Freeman, Kathy Freeman, and abducting Ashley Freeman and Laura Bible and disposing of their bodies after he
murders them. >> Mhm. >> His story goes that he knew somebody and he knew a man.
>> I knew somebody. Okay. >> Well, he knew a man named Charlie. >> Okay. >> And Charlie was associated with Danny.
>> Okay. >> I've heard several accounts of this story that that either Jeremy Jones was
owed money by Danny Freeman or that Danny Freeman owed this Charlie guy some money.
>> Okay. >> Regardless, that's his connection to Danny Freeman. He goes to the Freeman
home to collect what what is his what he believes is his. He says that he spends hours
driving around looking for the Freeman home, >> which makes sense. >> There's not a lot of proof that he would
have known where the home was with the exception of had he ever gone there with Charlie or received information from
Charlie, then he might have known where their home is. >> Right. But such a remote area, it's it's
very easy if your friend lives in, you know, if your friend lives in a subdivision, right? That if you drive
around enough, you go, "Oh, I I remember this. I remember that." That's a lot harder to do in a remote area. Well, and
I want to I want to read somebody's description of the Freeman's home so they can get an idea of how hard I think
that this home would be to find, especially in the dark. You know, I know I have I have several friends that live
out in the sticks. I'll I'll call it. And but I've driven past I've been to their homes many times and driven past
the entrance to their home even in the broad daylight because they live so far off the road. Uh it's not well marked.
But this is a description from a local person that I found regarding the Freeman home. They state that the
Freeman's home is a trailer located just outside of Welsh city limits. It's located at the end of a halfmile dirt
driveway. The property is only identifiable by a simple mailbox that sat on top of iron chain of an iron
chain stand. >> And it basically the only indication that you would have that that's
somebody's driveway and just not some random dirt road is this tiny little mailbox that's not, you know, it's not
lit. Um it's and they have a little >> Do most people have glowing mailboxes? Well, they have a little No, but they
might have a light above or a street light would be located near the the driveway. Not this situation. And that
there's a little bit of a rock formation um near the driveway as well. That to the locals is the only indication that
there is a home back there. >> Okay. So, where does his story go from here? >> He's at the home and he is he's murdered
Danny and Kathy. He then sets the trailer on fire and unbeknownst to him that there were other people inside the
the trailer. He goes outside uh he's getting ready to leave the property when the two girls come running out of the
burning trailer. >> All right. So, let's back this up a little bit. So, he goes in to collect
his money from Danny. >> Mhm. >> There's probably some kind of tussle because like we know Danny has a broken
collar bone. >> Mhm. So he gets shot, then he has to shoot Kathy, the wife, because she's
there. She's a witness. >> Yep. >> Okay. So that all checks out. Driving around for a while cuz you can't find
the property. It's hard to find. It's nighttime. That checks out, >> right? >> There's two individuals in the trailer
that he's not aware of. So, do the girls hear what's going on and they just stay in their room and
hide? Is, you know, >> he he doesn't know why they they didn't appear or doesn't state why that he
doesn't see them until or even know that they're in the home until the place is set on fire.
>> He says that when they came out of the trailer. Well, real quick, does he have
a rough timeline of when he claims he's he shows up to the Freeman's home? >> This cuz we know that the boyfriend was
there till probably 9:30, 10 10:30. >> According to statements that I read, this would put him in the Freeman home
in the early morning hours of the 30th. >> Okay. So, >> so, >> so we could assume the girls would be
asleep. >> And I I do want everybody to keep in mind um that this is a bit of a vague
confession. And the reason I believe this is is because he is a well-known Jeremy Jones is a well-known methhead.
Um he might not be the details of this crime might not even be clear to him. Um but he states anyway that the girls came
rushing out of the trailer and to his surprise, they didn't know that he was the
perpetrator of anything that had happened that had taken place before the the trailer was ablaze.
>> Well, maybe they slept through it. He he says that they thought or assumed that
he was passing by and saw the fire and had intended to report it or to help in some manner.
>> So, he gets them in his vehicle and they willingly leave the property. >> The problem is they're not going to be
alive for very much longer because of what kind of animal Jeremy Jones is. >> Right. Well, and he he obviously seems
like a a sex offender. >> Yeah. >> You know, he he definitely is. And he he says that he drove them to a location
that was about an hour away. Um and he he assaulted one of the girls. Um one of the girls tried to run off. Uh he shot
her and then murdered the other girl and then he threw their bodies down into a minehaft.
>> Okay. >> Okay. So, the problem with this mineshaft is that it's one of these there's multiple there's multiple pits
and stuff in this location and it also has a series of underground tunnels um that could be flushed out from time to
time due to water. >> Right. Right. >> So, he >> and he and he's confessing years later.
So, >> this is years and years of possible flushing of these minds. >> Yeah. and they
>> the thing I don't like about his story and maybe and this wouldn't I want to know your thoughts
but the thing that I don't like about his story is that his story seems to make some sense.
>> It makes a lot of sense >> and even for a meth head uh you know because it's like like you said didn't
know they were there. He has a motive. There's a logical explanation of why he would want Danny dead.
>> And then there's obviously a logical explanation of why he wants Kathy dead because she's there.
>> Mhm. >> Right. And he's probably in a meth state anyways. >> Yeah. >> You know, up or down. And I don't know
much about it, so I'm not captain of meth heads. Um, but then the girls are there and here's
this guy with, you know, these sexual demons. >> Mhm. >> And he is a sexual demon.
>> Exactly. Right. So So that's what that's to me it's seems like everything he's
saying makes sense. >> Mhm. uh with the exception of they do they do an extensive search of the area
in the minehafts, these pits, the tunnels, nothing is found of the girls. Um and
immediately when he realizes that they didn't find anything, well, he takes back his confession. He's no longer
confessing to to the >> Well, that's probably a play by his lawyer, though. >> Um
>> well, here's the other thing, too, though. You said he, you know, he confessed to 13. They only tried him for
three. >> Yeah. >> But those held up. >> Yeah. >> So, okay. So, we So, now we do have some
evidence that this guy confesses to stuff that he actually does do and then there is obviously enough evidence to
find it because if he confessed and if they would have found that body, if they would have found those bodies, right?
>> Mhm. >> That that would have been enough to convict him. >> Right. Of course.
>> So, again, I think that's a play from the lawyer, >> you know, recant the statement. Um,
when you compare the two confessions, Tommy Lync's to Jeremy Jones, >> Tommy Linels, he some of the things he
confessed to, they were able to take off the books and clear because um, his confessions were accurate. However, I
would throw Tommy Lyn Cells into the category of he's probably our generation's version of Henry Lee Lucas.
um you know, another another killer, but somebody that confessed to multiple killings. You know, they
>> they saw it on TV and therefore he confessed. >> Mhm. And I think that I think Tommy
Linels was basically just a very weak, disturbed man. Um and I certainly guilty of multiple murders. However, I think he
wanted to be much like Henry Lee Lucas where he was thought as of some kind of genius serial killer type. Um, I don't
know if the authorities or if the media or if Tommy Lin Cells himself gave him the nickname, but he was known by the
nickname of Coast to Coast, you know, meaning he had killed multiple people in multiple states.
>> You're not going to ruin my AM radio show for me. >> And go ahead. Oh, yeah. The coast to
coast. >> Not calling him coast to coast. >> Um, but regarding Jeremy Jones, you
know, we know he is he was from Oklahoma. Uh the strange thing too is that he leaves the state the following
year. Um you know it it I know that yes he was on probation. Yes, his probation was revoked um and he became a fugitive.
>> Maybe he was running simply from that. I would wonder if he was running from these four murders that he had committed
and later confessed to recanting that confession. >> Right. Again, the only the only thing I
believe about the recanning is that it's a lawyer play. And then also, I mean, as
far as confessions go, where does um the Bible family stand on any of these confessions? Um, if I had to guess what
they would would think and believe, I their theory, Lorine's theory would probably lean most towards Jeremy Jones,
>> right? And in my, you know, my theory and the reason why we kind of hinted on
this a little bit that how tough it would be to locate their home, it it would seem very strange to me that a
person like Tommy Lynn Cells that that he would have been able to locate this home. I don't think he knew these
people. I don't think he knew the Freeman's. And it doesn't strike me that this is the type of home that some
random killer traveling the streets um you know there's a killer on the road to quote Jim Morrison uh would just stumble
upon this home and commit this horrible crime. >> Yeah. And I think with um Jeremy Jones,
there's a connection to Danny >> for one. And then now just go with me on this. This is not too far-fetched.
You need to collect money. Why? Because you're a meth head, >> right? So, you go and you're going to
kill Danny. Then you're going to kill Kathy. And then these girls come running out
and you don't know a bunch of details of what has happened or what hasn't happened, right?
>> You're kind of blurry with your details. But we have the first confession being
these people in jail saying, "Well, the rumor is that we heard or a party that we were at could have been Charlie's
house >> and and is this Charlie is this Charlie individual connected to this meth
house?" >> And is it is it possible that >> is Jeremy Jones connected or Charlie
connected to this meth house? >> Right. And then that would make their story make sense. And if any of those uh
jail house snitches, I'd say, could come forward and say Jeremy Jones was at that
party, then there's more validity to that confession as well. If that is the way it happened,
>> you're you're saying that Jeremy Jones would having abducted the girls would then have something to barter with uh to
try to obtain more drugs or pay back a debt to his drug dealers, >> right? Or because he killed Danny, maybe
he found some money, you know, in the freezer. Maybe he didn't. Or maybe it was just I have these girls. They're not
aware that I killed their parents and I'm going to take them to this party. Mhm.
>> this drug party on New Year's. >> There are >> putting the girls there. I'm just saying
that there that is a possibility. >> There are some problems with his confession.
>> Um he was arrested on the 30th at 4:00 a.m. and this would have put him in the
area of the Freeman home. The problem with that is we have the medical examiner stating that they believe I'm
sorry she believes that Kathy Freeman was killed at 5:00 a.m. >> Right. >> Um so this would make one if that in
fact is true. I would love to know. You know, anytime we're doing these cases, there's always that one little tidbit of
of knowledge that I think is needed to really hone in and target and and bullseye a suspect,
>> right? >> And so they're saying, okay, so >> the bit of information in this one for
me is that time of death. How strong do they feel about that 5 a.m. time of death?
>> Right. 5:00 a.m. time of death. But they're saying at 4:00 a.m. he's arrested.
>> Mhm. >> So that puts him in the area. >> Yeah. He would have been about 10 or 11
miles away from the Freeman home at 4:00 a.m. when he's arrested. He's arrested for like uh he's intoxicated or high or
something like that. Um but he's arrested. The other bit of knowledge that would be interesting to find out
is, you know, what belongings did he have on him at the time that he was arrested? Did did he have a large sum of
money? You know, did he have hundreds and hundreds of dollars in his pockets when he when he was arrested?
>> Right. Or or was he alone? And maybe he just can't, you know, maybe he's confessing to the crime because he knows
that he was involved somehow, >> but [clears throat] maybe he wasn't alone. So maybe, you know, maybe the,
you know, maybe they're basing the time of death off of when they think the fire
was started. >> It's a possibility because the first known uh sighting of the fire would be
at 5:30 a.m., >> right? And if you and if you back it up and you say, "Okay, well, uh, you know,
Jeremy Jones and and his friend Charlie go to the house at midnight, 1:00 a.m. The murders could take place." Then
Jeremy Jones actually leaves the scene and Charlie's still at the scene to have the fire start.
>> You kind of crossed you crossed into what we were going to get to next here is regarding a tip that was received.
This was received um about a year maybe maybe two years ago. >> Um but it was a tip that Loren Bible had
received on her there's a the on her web page >> page right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> So she receives a tip that somebody
should look into the well of this old u old Charlie Critter house. Now Critter lives in Kansas. Um, but because of the
state line, it's not terribly far from the Freeman home. >> Um, and here's the other thing.
>> Now, according to Lorine, Charlie and Danny knew each other, right? >> So, here's what I'm getting at here. And
Jeremy Jones states that he knew this Charlie guy that Danny owed money to, >> but he never says it's Charlie Critter.
He just says Charlie, this guy named Charlie. >> Now, the according to local newspapers,
not only did Charlie Critter know Danny Freeman because they might they they don't in the local papers, I couldn't
find any drug connection, but according to Lorine, there's a drug connection there. The local papers state that they
knew one another because a they had worked together at one point. >> Mhm. and B, that Critter owned several
uh cattle that were that lived on the Freeman property. So, there's another connection to this
this Critter guy. Well, they they they're given this tip to search the well of of his former home,
>> right? >> They search the well. Um they send uh cameras down deep into the well and they
find they they found no evidence that there there was definitely no bodies in there. The only thing I believe they
found was some old some old bucket. Um, but there was no other type of uh debris
that would lead you to believe that there were any personal belongings or clothing or anything of that nature.
>> Again, what I was saying though is, you know, with Jeremy Jones confessing, maybe it's just not implementing his
buddy Charlie. >> And I think >> all this as well. >> Well, who is Charlie? Charlie's a guy
that's currently spending he's got to serve 14 years in prison for seconddegree murder. He murdered a
woman. right? He's a bad ombre. >> He murdered a woman and uh they found her body in a creek. Um and the
situation is they don't believe that they couldn't find any evidence of sexual assault. Um so maybe he's not the
same kind of animal that uh Jeremy Jones is. But you're exactly right, Captain. We have a situation where it's very
likely that this Charlie character that Jeremy Jones says he knows is in fact the same Charlie critter that we've been
talking about that knew Danny that was rumored that he owed money to one or both of these people.
>> Here's what here's what I think happened. I think that >> so are we giving our theories now?
>> I think we got to because we've been kind of beating around it the whole time
here. Uh the I think that the two of them probably committed this crime together. And I think that that's the
only way that you could make the timeline make sense regarding uh Jeremy Jones's involvement.
>> Well, his arrest, right? Because him being arrested at 4:00 a.m. Is that right?
>> Yeah. Uh >> that is what kind of puts the wrinkle on the whole confession. And Loren Bible,
her belief is that the the connection between the crimes >> is and the murderers is is Danny
Freeman. That somebody came to the trailer that night looking for Danny for some reason and this was the result. And
I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and I'm going to believe what her
gut tells her because I can tell from all the research and reading that I've done that nobody has spent more time on
this case and on this investigation the than Lorine Bible and she knows that she
knows the players involved. >> Yeah. Well, she knows the characters and she knows the landscape. She she knows
everything. And on top of that, her motive for getting answers is stronger than anybody's because of the loss of
her daughter. >> And I I think that two people or more had to commit this crime because of one
simple fact. Okay. Well, let's make it two simple facts, but they're pretty much the same thing.
Okay, we know we've described Danny Freeman very well to everybody. It's easy to say that he has a temper.
There's no reason to think that if he was confronted or put in a situation that he didn't want to be in that he
would not fight back. This this is a guy that would fight back 100%. And second of all is rumored to have a
stockpile of guns and firearms on his property. >> Uhhuh. >> You do not I don't care how much meth
you do. I don't care how dumb you are or how evil you are. You do not approach a
man or his property that is of that character and has that amount of weapons by yourself.
>> Well, you're and the reason why they would be approaching him is to get money.
>> To get money or to >> Right. So, when you're going to go collect money from somebody, you don't
show up empty-handed. Right. >> Right. And I think what happened here, I think that we have two terrible
individuals. >> Mhm. >> We have Critter and we have his buddy Jeremy Jones. And it's not a stretch to
believe that they those two knew each other that they went to that home together to confront Jeremy or sorry
Danny >> about money. >> Well, or >> or or he's making drugs like I said or he's making drugs.
>> Yeah. Most likely could have went there to collect money or just straight up to
rob the guy, >> right? >> And they get in this scuffle. They get in this situation and then we have
Jeremy Jones. Look, because it could be as simple as uh you know, I'm out, you know, creepy critter is over there and
he's has his cattle and Danny just opens up the freezer and get some ice for a beer or
something. Oh, what's that in the freezer? Oh, my daughter's saving up for, you know,
>> or they knew there was money on the property, right? Right. >> You know, it was also believed that
Danny had some kind of collection that was full of valuables. Maybe they went there to collect that or or there was
just a disagreement. You never know. But with giving the character of these two guys of Critter and Jones, I I
>> and it to me I I I'm with you on the fact that it doesn't seem like it's just
a lone individual >> that it would it more likely be two individuals, but I still feel like
there's some validity to the the jail house snitches and that and like I said because that and one of the issues here
is because Jeremy Jones is a methhead. head his story. It makes so much sense, but there's so
many gaps >> and so many kind of just dark spots that that if he could remember those or if he
would have stated those and I think maybe some of that some of the stuff he's not stating correctly, it's because
he doesn't want to implement uh Charles. And probably the reason why is because he knows that if he ever got out or if
he ever was confronted with this individual again, he could be killed by him. Well, you know,
>> and these two guys are very in some ways very different from one another. Uh Critter has never confessed to to the
murder that he has been convicted of. Um he's not, you know, talking about it. He
he actually claims that he was framed. Um, Jones, as we know, he he from time to time will sing like a bird and tell
you, you know, every confession that he can think of. Uh, Jones did know, >> it's kind of a douchy bird, but yeah.
>> Uh, Jones did know what type of gun they were killed with. Uh, he also knew what
accelerant was used to set the fire. >> See, that's all I need. >> We have evidence there. And the reason
why I think it was the two of them is that I Here's the thing, little insight here. Jeremy Jones, you know, we talked
about this when we covered Bundy a little bit and we talked about it a little bit with the yogurt shop murders.
Jeremy Jones is a serial rapist, okay? He's a serial sex offender in every sense of the word. He's somebody that's
been convicted of such crimes before he started murdering. Sometimes we see with
these serial killers that cannot control themselves because that's the type of monster that they are that they graduate
from mur from rape to murder. And I think that's what we have here with Jeremy Jones. I think that if he were
there, if he were there that night, there is no way he could have walked away from that trailer without abducting
those girls. It that that's the sick individual that he is. That's his addiction more so than methamphetamine,
more so than the drugs and the alcohol. That is his number one drug of choice is
is rape. And I think that that we have a situation where they abducted these girls and they were able to get away
with it because there was two of them and Jeremy Jones fits into the timeline because he was not involved after the
hours of 4:00 a.m. >> Right. And like I said, I mean I when you can tell me what gun they used and
you can tell me what accelerant they used, that's believable. The other thing too
is there's some evidence about cars being in the area that night. Yeah, there there there there were two
vehicles that were spotted near the Freeman home. Again, a remote area. There might not be any reason for cars
to be in that area. >> Two, >> one was a dark uh colored vehicle. Um and it was a very vague description
given it was a dark colored sedan. >> Uh the other vehicle that was spotted between the this was between 5 and 6
a.m. that morning. Um the other vehicle would have been a dark colored truck. Um, it's the way that I've heard this
reported is that these are two separate sightings, which would mean to me that these vehicles weren't seen together.
Um, but what that makes me wonder furthermore is we have this arrest record of Jeremy Jones. What were his
possessions? Was he in a dark colored sedan or or a dark colored truck? >> Um, I know he would have been arrested
at 4:00 a.m. and these sightings were later. Did he have any did he have a large amount of money on him? You know,
these are these are the questions that that I would like to know. The strange thing here though, Captain, is that law
enforcement, they do not report the sightings of these vehicles to the public until like 10 or 11 years after
the crime. They're basically stating, "This is some information that we got right after the crime took place. We
held on to it because they were very vague descriptions of vehicles and now we're going to release this information
because we want to know if anybody saw the same thing or has any idea what if this has anything to do with the crime
at all. >> Well, but I also think that we're seeing law enforcement get a lot smarter and,
you know, giving information to the public earlier now. >> Yeah. And I I think the more they do
that, the more they're willing to say, "Hey, we have this piece of evidence and maybe somebody would know something,
when this case is, you know, hot, when the case is, uh, you know, public the public is
concerned about the case, you're going to get more answers." >> Now, jumping back to the first theory
that we discussed that the that the girls had perpetrated these murders. Um, you know, and I just want to touch on
this because I don't want anybody to to tell us we missed something here, but there were sightings of these girls
after the fact, >> right? >> Um, law enforcement has dismissed most of these sightings for the simple fact
that they were receiving sightings of the girls being in different states on the same day. Um, meaning that Ashley
could have been spotted on one side of the country on Wednesday and she was spotted on the other side of the country
on that same Wednesday, >> right? >> Um, so they, you know, when you when you post these pictures and you send them
out, people tend to see things. Um, maybe that's why they held back the information on these vehicles that they
didn't want to get overloaded with unnecessary tips that might lead them in the wrong direction.
>> Yeah. And and like I said from the beginning, the the minute I saw Ashley's picture, I thought, "Well, that's my
middle school girlfriend. I mean, it looks exactly like her." Um, so I don't know. I think sometimes when
people hear about missing people, they kind of see what they want to see. Well, 16 years after the crime took place, we
have local law enforcement calling for tips. They're asking the public to put in their two cents and tell us what you
saw, tell us what you've heard, tell us what you know. The thing that's disconcerning about this this plea for
help from local law enforcement to me is is the fact that within this request for
information. The district attorney's office states that they are encouraging anyone that has called in tips in the
last 16 years. And if you are wondering if the information has been followed up on, please contact your local law
enforcement. Again, you know, so kind of I think I think they're wondering what tips may have fallen through the cracks
throughout the years. Uh they're letting the public know that they have new people in all of the sheriff's offices,
all of the district attorney's offices. There's new eyes, new minds, new people manning these desks and manning the the
offices. Please submit these tips to these new people in case this stuff fell through the cracks so we can piece this
together. >> Well, and yeah, that's what they're saying. That's the importance >> uh of what they're saying is and that's
what and what makes it so odd is please report whatever you reported 16 years ago again.
>> Yeah. in the conclusion of this story. I mean, we kind of believe Jeremy Jones's
confession and if they can find some more links, maybe there'd be some closure for the family.
>> Mhm. Or if you could get him to turn on Critter or Critter to turn on Jones, uh
would would be another way to go with it. >> I think they're going to have to find
the bodies of the girls at this point to believe any confessions that come out. Um, I think that's the only way that
that you'll you'll be >> and again, like I said, the problem with Jones is, you know, he's a drug addict.
>> So, >> uh, and Ashley Freeman was actually declared legally dead by her family October 18th,
2010. Um, as we had said earlier, the Bible family remains at on the front line of this investigation. Um, Loren
Bible and her husband Jay Bible are really uh the driving force behind the remaining investigation.
>> Yeah. And if you have any tips or any any information uh or just want to help
out, you can check out their Facebook page. Uh it's find Laura Bible and that's Laura L aur
i. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh and I I want to give a quick uh statement that Lorine Bible had
stated. She says that they will never declare Laura legally dead. Um she states that they have come to the
conclusion that Laura was in the wrong place at the wrong time. They still feel that she is still alive, but whether she
is alive or dead, they want to know what happened. >> And our hearts go out to them. Do we
have a recommended reading for this week? >> Uh yes. It's called The Dreams of Ada by
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Missing Welch Girls /// Part 2 /// True Crime Garage

Episode: 108

Released: 5-16-2017

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In the early morning hours of December 30th, 1999 in Welch, Oklahoma a trailer home fire is reported. Firefighters arrive and put out the blaze. The dead body of wife and mother Kathy Freeman is discovered. Her husband, daughter and a family friend are missing. Law Enforcement theorized Kathy’s husband Danny shot her, set the home on fire and abducted his daughter Ashley and her friend Lauria. The following day, to everyone’s surprise Lauria’s family looking for clues at the scene of the fire find the dead body of Danny Freeman. Tonight we gather in the garage and discuss what could have possibly happened that night in the trailer. We also want to know what happened to Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible.

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The episode discusses the unsolved murders of the Freeman family and the disappearance of Ashley Freeman and Laura Bible, exploring various theories and confessions.

Key points

The Disappearance of Ashley and Laura. A family's nightmare unfolds as two teenage girls go missing after a birthday sleepover.
Conspiracy Theories Unfold. Theories emerge about police involvement in the Freeman case, stirring community tension.
Theories of Abduction. Exploring various theories surrounding the abduction of the girls, including human trafficking.
Jailhouse Confessions. Inmates claim to have seen the girls at a known drug house shortly after their disappearance.
Tommy Lynn Cells' Claim. Prolific serial killer Tommy Lynn Cells claims to know the whereabouts of the missing girls.
Jeremy Jones' Confession. Jeremy Jones, a convicted murderer, confesses to the abduction and murder of the Freeman family.

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