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[Music] it's a listener tell episode and you know what that means it is brought to
you by you for you from you and all about you baby it's also morbid uh in the night time it's morbid at 12 23 a.m
morning at almost midnight it's just a little pain whoa uh and you know what before we jump
into this we have a little bit of like news I suppose yeah kinda a change in process I suppose breaking news
[Music] that exactly that uh so we've been you know we've been like we changed the way
we did things we added another episode every week with a listener tell on Fridays you know the process has been
different for a few months and we've been seeing how it's going yeah and it just feels different it feels it hasn't
we haven't been able to settle into this enough no um and we've been kind of taking your
feedback and like mulling over it and we've been comparing that with how we're feeling and we're all lining up
we're all lining up together and we decided that we're gonna go back to the way things were before when when we
started like the way things were when you guys like we got you all here the way you came to us you know we started
out and like after you know I I don't know it must have been like a year or two in that we started doing two
episodes a week and that many morbid became a full episode and then we were at two episodes a week and we did one
episode every every month that was a listener Tale and you guys dug that right like it felt
like that was and we dug that I was just gonna say and we dug like it felt like doable we felt like we were always able
to put enough time and effort into the main episodes and I think we're not feeling that way right now no and we
have Dave who's a really big help he's our like research assistant now and he's [ __ ] phenomenal but like it's a lot
and like and so when and when we changed to three episodes a week it's just like
with you know the Buffy podcast and with Scream and Frozen yeah Frozen head like
we're burning out a little bit and we recognize we lied um but and I think people are noticing
I've gotten a few messages that are like are you okay yeah I've gotten a lot of messages like that thank you for giving
a [ __ ] like thank you for noticing I feel like that says so much about our listener base it does because like that
and that's when it started to hit us we're like all right people are seeing that we're getting tired so we we got
together we decided you know what we're taking it back old school we're gonna do
two main huge episodes every week because I feel like these episodes are getting meatier and meteor and we want
to continue with that I think that's the main attraction every time you say meteor I always think that you're
talking about him like a car yeah yeah I am no they're getting more space no no no
yeah we want to keep these main episodes like really be able to focus all our attention and like you know we don't
want to burn ourselves out we don't want to burn Dave out we don't want to burn you out we don't want to burn you out so
we're gonna take it back we're gonna do still do the two main episodes everybody
like that's not gonna change so don't worry that'll never change it's keeping it the same it's always been but instead
of doing The Listener Tales every single Friday we're gonna do it just once a month uh it just feels right it feels
like it's going to be a treat again it used to be a treat you know like it was always that thing that we were like oh
guys we're doing a listener tell because of like whoa that case was entirely like
exactly let's have a palette cleanser here and now you'll have them to look forward to I feel like when it's like
every Friday it's like it's been fun like I I don't need it by any means no way but I'm like now it's gonna be like
exciting to do listener Tales like even more so yeah it becomes a treat for us and it becomes a treat for you guys
again and that's all we really want to do we just want to make this a fun experience for everybody if you eat ice
cream every night after dinner it's not that exciting to go get ice cream anybody forget it once a month it's a
lot of fun or like once a week so just letting you know that that's what's gonna happen again
two main episodes stick it around yeah worry about that and we'll let you know because it's going to be instead of the
Friday episode like we're gonna figure out where these two main episodes are gonna release now yeah because we want
to make sure we're not putting them in a place where there's too much time between them I feel like Tuesday
Thursday is going to be good yeah but we'll let you know don't worry because we're just nailing that detail down yeah
we're having combos but again this is really just better for everybody I think it's you're still getting the exact same
amount like amount of main episodes that's not changing but it's just we don't want to burn out and we don't want
to start you know like not being able to put as much as we want to put into main
episodes you know yeah so so I think this will be good for everybody and again this is like we're taking your
feedback like this is this is your show as much as it is as it is ours and we just want to make it what you want it to
be exactly sorry somebody sent mail and made a noise how [ __ ] are they so yeah so thanks for like you know sharing
that and thanks for giving a [ __ ] about us and actually like messaging us being
like are you okay we are okay we were just we really were burning out though like there was it was starting to get a
little much hundo p and you know we love this and we love you and we just want to
keep keep doing that so you look so Earnest right now I am Earnest I know you are but you're excited about like I
love morbid for what it is and I want it to be what it was you know like I don't
want it to change and keep like evolving is one thing changing is a different thing you just read my [ __ ] mind I
was saying that because we're taking it back old school kicking it we always read each other's lines
I'm just nostalgic right now like abilities so you know what here we are we're in a listener tale right now here
we are and here we are in six minutes so we should shut the [ __ ] up and get on to
it we should shut the [ __ ] up so you know what the first tale that I'm gonna read is called the time my
grandfather was kidnapped and the time my grandfather arranged an illegal adoption with the help of the Capone
Mafia I absolutely love a two-for-one listener tale who doesn't who doesn't my friend show me someone
don't please uh so this one says hi ladies my name is Valerie and I'm new here I just got hold your Buffy
re-watcher podcast I love that you found us through the Buffy rewatcher podcast I
know that's the first time that we've heard that and I'm having the best time listening to discuss my favorite TV show
in Middle School my friends and I assigned each other Buffy personas I was Buffy and my and I named my dog angel
anyway I soon discovered you have been podcasting about my other favorite subject True Crime and my love for you
blossomed our love for you I started listening from the beginning and I'm catching up quickly
I'm submitting two other two stories about my grandfather As Told to me by my father and still somewhat in his voice
pick your favorite read both they're short I've attached to put a phone no idea how that's spelled or what it even
means again I'm new here but rumor has it that you like to read large fonts and I support that's the truth I love you
all the rumors are true yeah I never got to meet my I'm not all of them I never got to meet my iPod no I was just
singing I never got to meet my grandfather as he passed away the year before I was born
from the stories I've heard he was quite a character he was movie star handsome picture attached he was he was with a
quick and biting wit so he was a Dreamboat uh he found himself in a lot of colorful situations feel free to use
our names from what I know about my grandfather he'd love to have 15 minutes of fame I love that my favorite thing is
there's a picture of him in an old-timey boxer pose I know and his shirt says [Laughter]
say hi no no it doesn't it says I yeah is it in that voice this guy's sure wouldn't just be like I said
I'm gonna punch in your face oh all right this story takes place in the 1920s oh it's for Elena oh yeah it's
my my time the Hillman department store was one of the biggest department stores
in Chicago Chicago Edward Hillman Jr was the Chicago Department Store air who was in the
newspapers for his Glamorous Life his marriages and divorces to actresses brought him further local Celebrity
Status my grandfather Edward Hillman hereby known as Ed was a handsome and Dapper young gentleman around the same
age as Edward Jr one evening ed meaning her grandfather was accosted by three butt heads forced into their car and
brought to their apartment for ransom despite his protests he could not convince these [ __ ] that he wasn't
the Edward Hillman son of the Hillman department store oh it just they had the same name again identity yes they told
him that he had to come up with five thousand dollars in order to be released oh my God I had thought quickly and said
that he'd call his kid brother Herbert to get the funds and bring it over Herbert was a tough 16 year old he was
part of a Jewish gang that was known for getting into fights in minor trouble herb was an amateur boxer called The
Smiling Slugger because he loved to fight and fought with a smile on his face so that was that was Herbert yeah yeah
it was Ed called his brother and said matter-of-factly I'm in a bit of trouble and I need five thousand dollars please
go pick it up and bring it over telling herb to bring $5,000 gave her a clear understanding of what the situation was
because it was a lot of money in those days and Ed and Herb's combined bank account was about five thousand dollars
short of that a few hours later these criminals were looking out the window waiting for their money and they
saw a young guy approaching herb knocked on the apartment door and feeling no threat and happy that their mission was
successful one of the kidnappers opened the door hello as he opened the door herb greeted him with A Hard Punch to
the face which broke his nose and splattered a lot of blood his Mama Said Knock You Out that's righty she did then
herb rushed at the second man and overpowered him with a series of punches oh my God Third Man surrenders
I'm obsessed with that the third guy was like no I don't even want to deal with that oh my God I just had a smoker's
coffee it reminds me of Arthur um Arthur Shelby from peaky blinders yeah me too I'm just saying like he's a
boxer and he's like Wiley does he say I he did not say I uh all this happened in
a matter of seconds Tom or excuse me her but I almost said Tom from Thomas Shelby from herb
proceeded to empty their wallets and take their cash hell yeah he was like you want my cash I'm gonna take yours he
took note of the addresses on their IDs and prepared a note for them to sign each planet pledging Herbert fifty
dollars for his troubles which he later collected he made them pay for him kicking the [ __ ] out of him that's
hilarious he's like I had to come out of my house and come beat the [ __ ] out of
you and save my brother and you're gonna pay me for that that's iconic after thanking the quote-unquote gentleman
nicely for being such good sports herb and Ed left my dad asked his father what he was
doing during the melee he replied I was filing my nails as the fight is happening he's like I
was filing my nails wow I love that a lot Ed and Herb are already icons but let's go to um this illegal adoption
thing let's [ __ ] do it in the early 1940s my grandfather owned and operated a currency exchange exchange in Cicero
Illinois around the corner was a business owned and operated by Ralph Capone Al Capone's brother
the office was used to collect money from bookies the numbers game Lottery and other amusements since Ralph Capone
collected money in smaller dominations one dollar five dollar ten dollar bills he approached my grandfather about
exchanging these small bills for larger ones including one thousand dollar bills
that the government was taking out of circulation my grandfather obliged and got as many thousand dollar bills as he
could and Ralph was very appreciated I did not know that there was ever a thousands an attractive 18 year old girl
came to the currency exchange exchange regularly to cash her check my grandfather enjoyed talking with her
because she was so pretty and kind well one day she came in looking very upset my grandfather asked her what was wrong
was she ill she confessed that she was pregnant and her bro and her boyfriend had no intention of marrying her dick my
grandfather remembered that his brother-in-law knew a couple interested in adopting adopting a baby and was
growing impatient with the red tape my grandfather put two and two together and said to the girl I think I might be able
to help you out when you come back next week I might have some good news for you
oh he contacted the childless couple and told them the situation they agreed on an arrangement look at this guy just
[ __ ] making things happen making dreams come true when the girl came in he told her his idea about placing the
child with the couple and told her the financial compensation the couple was willing to pay all expenses including
her hospital bills subsidize her wages while she was unable to work plus give her several thousand dollars as a gift
oh my God after a brief meeting with her and her boyfriend everything was finalized she had a baby girl in the
trans was made very smoothly everyone seemed very happy with the arrangement months later the baby daddy thought it
over and felt that he could have and should have gotten more money you can get the [ __ ] out I love that he
did not want to be there I thought you were going to say like oh he thought it over and he was like no no I want my
baby back he just thought he should get more money for his child oh okay he went to I did so much work exactly he
went to my grandfather and demanded that he received more money or my grandfather
was going to have quote unquote a big problem with him okay he's like you don't know who I work with yeah after
thinking it over my grandfather decided to go visit Ralph Capone to seek his advice there we go being an amateur
actor my grandfather laid the story on so thick that it brought tears to the gangster's eyes oh my God Capone told my
grandfather to tell the boyfriend to meet him at a certain location and he'll give him the additional money I am alive
my grandfather did just as he was told and got to the meeting place a little early to wait the baby daddy showed up
wearing a big smile walking towards my grandfather greedily looking forward to the money transaction at the same time
two rough looking guys got out of their car they took the man by each of his arms dragged him into the car and sped
away [ __ ] months later my grandfather was walking near his business and spotted the boyfriend walking towards
him upon seeing my grandfather the boyfriend turned and ran in the opposite direction as fast as he could before 30s
were [ __ ] wild I love it like there were days where you could just like [ __ ]
somebody up for being a dick and everybody was just like and everybody was like yeah like I probably deserved
it gonna look the other way yeah I'm gonna look the other way man it's [ __ ] wild wow that wasn't Valerie
that was a good one that was a good old's tale yeah I loved it so much [Music] a few days before Christmas Janelle
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oh this is a good this is a good title I'm getting hoarse oh that's not the title
um it's entitled we could have been on Dateline oh no that's not good no that's not something you want to be on that is
definitely not it it says hello I've attached a listener tail but a close call on vacation I call it we could have
been on Dateline thank you for reading I don't know if I can say you're I can awesome it says hi ladies my name is
Kristen you can use my name and all the names in the story thanks and this listener tells a collaboration of some
of your most loyal listeners oh I love that well almost all of us one of us doesn't like spooky things it's probably
my fault for making her watch The Exorcist when she was 12. sorry Jody sorry Jody sorry Jody I'm just kidding
sorry just jokes we will all be so excited if you choose our storyboard episode we'll be famous amongst our
nearing middle-aged mom friends hell yeah we'll call them up and pour glasses because you're famous baby are you about
to make a big kid your name's gonna be in lights pictures you too Jody just kidding it's
only a podcast yay this story is about a time when the four of us came close to being featured
on an episode of dateline in the early 2000s let's go back to the summer of 2000. let's let's go back to that oh you
know it's wild they're already trailing off I um have had that Jonas Brothers song stuck in my head I said
and I'm getting homicide all over it and 2 000 just reminded me if you think of it but anyways we're not going forward
we're going backwards yeah the summer of 2000 when four friends from Seattle named Emily Aaron Jody and Kristen
that's you I think it is who just graduated from high school took their first trip together that is the most
exciting trip yeah my grandfather owned a townhouse in Lake Tahoe and offered it
to me and some friends uh for a week as a graduation gift what a fun way to celebrate our newly found quote-unquote
adulthood of course we had parents who weren't going to let us go on chaperoned so Emily's Mom drove us down in Jody's
mom's minivan once we got to Tahoe Emily's mom set up her own vacation elsewhere so the four of us had the
townhouse to ourselves let me just say that we were good girls like really good girls we created a pyramid of soda cans
that we had consumed above the fireplace not beer cans oh my God you're me we went to a museum we swam in the lake we
took one of those old-timey photos where we were dressed up like cowboy sex worker bank robbers the riskiest thing
we did on this trip was go see a fortune teller in downtown Tahoe which make it made us feel like super cool Risk Takers
oh my gosh it's so funny we were like just talking about we were I thought that was you the
townhouse was a part of a large complex near Marina I was about to say marinara wow there's some marinara marinara
near a fun chicken parmesan the townhouse was a mozzarella stick oh man I think morbid all the Dinos
oh leave me alone [Laughter] all of the toe noses looked exactly the same from the outside our particular
townhouse was three stories tall we walked in a front door from the driveway and up a set of stairs to the main
living space with the kitchen and the living room then walked up another set of stairs to reach the top floor where
the bedrooms were lots of walking there were two bedrooms one had double twin beds just off the hallway that's where
Emily and Aaron slept at the end of the hallway was a master bedroom where Jody and I slept the bathroom had two doors
one that led into the master bedroom and another into the hallway so you could walk from the master bedroom through the
bathroom to get to into the hallway there was a queen-sized bed against the back wall and a little love seat next to
the door that led to the hallway the master bedroom had a huge Skylight it also had a door that led to the outside
we never used this door as it went down a long flight of steep stairs to the grassy common spaces between the two
between the townhouses well one night after drinking more soda and watching The Cutting Edge or some
other 90s rom-com we fell asleep it's important to note that at this time Jody had forgotten to pack pajamas oh oh
that sucks and had just purchased purchased some that day on a trip to Target my favorite place
she uh and I had been friends since we were two so we didn't super care about sharing a bed and undies at some point
during the night I woke up from a deep sleep and noticed a large full moon Illuminating the bedroom at first I
wasn't sure what had me wake up and I lay there taking stock of the room it was then that I heard loud snoring my
sleepy brain trying to make sense of the situation assumed it was Emily snoring sorry I'm not sure why I attributed love
story to you around the same moment I also realized that Jody was saying something to me in a whisper voice
obviously the snoring had woken up Jody too I responded probably in a louder voice than I thought why is Emily
snoring so loud Jody whispered back it's not Emily it's the man what my sleepy brain couldn't keep up with this
new information what man I said again probably in a voice that was louder than it should have been given the situation
Jody shushed me and pointed it was then that I realized there was a very large man what the [ __ ] sound asleep on the
love seat on the other side of the room next to the bedroom door perhaps three feet from our bed are you kidding me
thank God Jody had woken up and made a plan because I was still processing the situation she whispered to me to get out
of the bed on my side the furthest away for the man and quietly go through the bathroom door so we wouldn't have to
walk right next to him to get out of the room remember this is two thousand we don't have cell phones so in order to
get help we have to call from inside the house we go downstairs to the kitchen Jody
picks up the largest knife in the kitchen just in case again she's thinking much more quickly than I am
that's a Jody that's why Jody doesn't like spooky things she's lived spooky things yeah Jody knows what the [ __ ] is
it she's good she is she's preparing for the next thing you know and she calls 9-1-1 from the kitchen phone I can hear
the operator ask what's your emergency Jody we're staying in a condo on vacation and we just woke up to a man
asleep in our bedroom [ __ ] operator do you know the man [ __ ] why would I be calling 9-1-1 come on man yeah
bye see you later no we went to sleep and when we woke up he was just there asleep on our couch
operator you're sure you don't know this person you know what let me go check oh
it's just Glenn oh yeah I forgot Glenn comes over and falls asleep sometimes Jody no operator what's your address
pause for us to frantically find the address of the townhouse on a brochure or something on the kitchen counter
operator you need to get out of the house immediately the police are on their way
[ __ ] I almost did it again marinara sauce Marina security has been alerted get out of the house Jody but our our
friends are still asleep upstairs operator the police will be there soon get out of the house oh my God
as fully grown adults we wondered why we didn't go wake up Emily and Aaron to get
them out of the house but at the time it just made sense to just get out okay well you were teenagers at the time and
somebody's telling you get out of the house did the right thing it's like the end of black Christmas she wants to go
save everybody but they're already dead but it's just so what are you gonna do get out of the [ __ ] house we hang up
and I'm fairly certain Jody Put The Knife back so we didn't meet the cops with a large knife in our hands and head
to the last set of stairs in our bare feet remember how Jody had just purchased pajamas as we stand outside in
the driveway waiting for the police we are somehow calm enough to joke that it feels like we're in an episode of cops
and if Jody hadn't gotten pajamas that day she'd be the crazy lady standing and waiting for the police oh my God
it felt like the police and the marina security were there within seconds we waited outside for a minute while the
police officers ask us about the situation again yes there's a man on the couch in the master bedroom no we don't
know him no we don't know how they got in our fans are still asleep upstairs in the room next to him because we're
barefooting on our PJs after assessing the situation they have us come in and sit on the couch while they talk to the
man eventually we see what seems like an eight-foot guy walk down the stairs escorted by two different police
officers behind him in PJs and with their eyes as wide as I have ever seen them walk Emily and Aaron
after he was gone the officers took us into the master bedroom did you know that the outside door to the bedroom
isn't locked what the [ __ ] what we had locked the door or at least we thought we had even though it was a few decades
before your podcast we already knew that fresh air was for dead people hell yeah
and we for sure had locked that door what we didn't know was that the lock was broken we hadn't ever checked it
from the outside we had no idea that the door which led directly into our bedroom
had been open the entire time it turned out that this guy was staying at another townhouse at the marina he
came back to what he thought was his place completely wasted and walked up the long steep staircase to our bedroom
which just happened to have a broken lock holy [ __ ] we spent the rest of the night playing Monopoly or some other
game that we found in the condo because we certainly weren't going back to sleep
we definitely made some comments about how we could have been on cops or Worse Dateline if we'd actually gotten
murdered the next morning we all called her parents and told them that we had to
call the police but it wasn't because of anything we had done trust me remember we were good girls they were all
thankful we were okay and the lock got fixed within an hour reflecting on this now as a parent I cannot imagine how
they must have felt getting that cold we calmed our nerves by watching more 90s rom-coms adding to the soda can pyramid
and playing more games hell yeah we ended up having a really great trip when I texted Emily asking if I should
write this story up as a listener tale she said oh yes man we got so lucky yeah you did we did get so lucky we very
easily could have become a full-fledged episode of morbid four murdered girls on
a vacation in Lake Tahoe even though we never saw the man again and his entering
our bedroom was apparently an innocent drunken mistake Jody still swears that she saw him giving her a creepy smirk
when he walked down the stairs with the officers she still remembers how gross it was he didn't even have the nerve to
look apologetic oh my God at the time we didn't let ourselves think too much about what could have happened what if
he'd stumbled and drunk and climbed into bed with us what if he discovered he'd hit the jackpot and found four innocent
Terror uh innocent teenage girls to terrorize what if wow thank God the what ifs didn't happen but you can bet that
every time I stay somewhere on vacation I check that the law hell yeah you do and now we will too
keep it weird ladies but not to worry that you got intoxicated so intoxicated that you accidentally fall asleep in
somebody else's vacation rental and scare the living crap out of teenage girls holy [ __ ] that is crazy bananas
I'm so glad that you survived and that you're here you're here you're here I'm just I'm amazed right now that you just
woke up to snoring yeah like woke up to snoring and there was a giant man in your room like no thank you and the fact
that you said you looked like he was like eight feet tall when he woke up so scared I'm amazed right now seriously my
next one is going to be the story of a creepy lab partner in missing chloroform because it speaks to me I love that it
says hi weirdos my name is Taylor and yes you can use my name if you read this on the podcast even if you just read it
to yourselves oh my God yeah back in August I was looking for a new podcast to listen to and found morbid I
love all these new listeners I know by the second episode I was hooked and found my new favorite podcast
research and time you guys put into the stories and now you focus on the victims
and their families and these terrible crimes but you still spit the facts about the case thank you thanks I sadly
have already caught up with all the old episodes yes I work a very boring job at
the moment but at least I get to binge listen to your podcast all day long I love hearing your lives change and
everything exciting going on ash congrats on your engagement and good luck with the wedding planning I hope it
is the happiest day of your life thank you so much I'm so kind Elena congrats on the book I can't imagine writing a
book I will read it one day I promise but I'm not a big book reader at the moment since I just spent four years
reading chemistry textbooks that's fair you know what I forgive you that's fine I recently graduated with a degree in
forensic chemistry holy holy [ __ ] with minors in biology criminal justice and forensic science you're a badass I'm
about to join the police academy and hopefully work my way to become a crime scene investigator my dream job you're
the best you also kind of sound like you went down a similar path I know I'm like
damn you're awesome um I'm like yeah you're awesome much I got it I got it as it came out of
my own mouth so if you can't tell I really like True Crime I have always thought of sending in a listener tail
but thought nothing in my life is as interesting as the other Tales you have read but I thought why the hell not YOLO
am I right I have attached my listener tail in a double space potipha and it takes about six minutes to read oh look
at you I am sorry for all the typos and grammatical errors please don't get mad at me I have never been good at writing
I'm gonna get pissed at you I'm already pissed off but enjoy imagine if you're serious imagine if we were like [ __ ] you
you know what on to the next fun get it this story starts four years ago when I was a very anxious sophomore in college
sitting in one of my chemistry labs when some guy ends up sitting next to me and
asking to be my lab partner nope a tale as old as time we exchanged numbers to ask questions about lab in class and I
did not think of any anything of it further into the semester he ended up sitting next to me in our lecture
lecture portion of the class and would start to say things very casually that would make me feel uncomfortable uh-oh
one day we were talking about organic chemistry and realized we had the same female Professor but our classes were at
the diff at different times a few weeks later we were talking about a test that I did not do so hot on and he said don't
worry I will just force our professor to sleep with me and blackmail her so she'll give me and give you an a
what uh immediately after lab was over I texted my then boyfriend about what happened during lab and he felt that I
should try I should be nice to this guy because he seemed like he could be potentially dangerous based on the
things he would say and was worried about my safety since we were a long distance and I would walk to and from
campus by myself because I was not paying 130 on to park on campus um you're not with that boyfriend right I
hope not because if his boyfriend says then boyfriend dooming because like be nice to this guy who makes you
uncomfortable [ __ ] that what that's dumb advice yeah not really bad advice yeah I
don't know about that after this comment I was nice to him during lab and avoided
him everywhere else but I would eventually end up getting multiple texts a day for me because you were nice you
were nice that's the thing you don't have to be nice from a nice girly don't be nice help everybody you know what
it's you don't need to do it it's just not necessary be nice to people who are nice to you and make you feel good
I hardly even answered any texts but he was not seeming to get the hint and was trying to get me to invite him over to
my apartment to study no obviously I never told him where I lived and always made up excuses since I didn't want to
reject him and make him mad I feel so bad that you were in this situation I know during the semester he would find
me when I was doing homework no matter where I was on campus and would come sit next to me in silence because no one
because no way am I trying to have a conversation with this guy the semester eventually came to an end
and I thought I would never have to see or hear from him again boy was I wrong oh no the next year was my junior year
and I decided to become a chemistry laboratory teaching assistant look at you damn before school started me and my
then boyfriend decided to break up this is important later I promise I'm actually pretty happy about that so fun
the week before school started they had all all the chemistry student workers come to a safety meeting because
chemistry Labs equal dangerous chemicals I've heard that while I was sitting on a
lab bench waiting for the meeting to get started guess who walked in through the
door no creepy ass lab partner turns out he got a job working in the stock room where he would be with all the lab
equipment and lab chemicals we made eye contact and he immediately came and sat next to me please move he was trying to
make conversation with me and asked about my boyfriend and my dumbass told him that we broke up a couple of weeks
prior Mama but you're like I shouldn't have to lie no this then started but like lie this then started the spam of
text messages every day telling me my ex-boyfriend was stupid for breaking up with me and blah blah blah once again I
never answered any of the messages eventually he would start showing up to the labs what that I was teaching and
would just sit there by my desk to try to start conversation with while I was helping a student understand the lab he
finally stopped showing up to my labs but quickly started showing up to my mandatory tutoring hours luckily a lot
of my students would also showed up to my tutoring hours so I could help them with the pre-lab for the next week so I
would never have to talk to him also hearing all of these things is giving me like like just like back to to chemistry
class me too like like getting the doing the like pre-lab [ __ ] pre-labs man I hated pre-labs
um it's just making me think of your book yeah there you go this year on my birthday when I got out of class he was
standing outside the door with a birthday present what that I did not ask for no I didn't know what to do so I
said Thank you and quickly walk to my next class my senior year he ended up being in one of my classes and sat in
front of me and would still text me every single day like broey I'm not answering no this semester he kept
texting me asking to meet him after class which I would not do and would awkwardly Sprint out of the class after
a few weeks of this happening he sent me a very long text professing his love for
me I am very quickly texted back saying I'm sorry but I am not interested and don't see you that way good for you this
started the spamming of my phone where he would be apologizing and that he still wanted to be friends at this point
I was fed up with this so I responded telling him that he was making me feel very uncomfortable and to stop texting
me which of course he did not do and I ended up blocking his number he would then follow me from our class to my next
class apologizing but I did not care anymore so I would walk with headphones in and ignore every word he said he then
brought my birthday present to class to give to me since I was no longer talking
to him this was in November and my birthday is in February talk about planning ahead since I blocked his
number he had started messaging me on Instagram Facebook and found my Snapchat after a while he eventually stopped
messaging me and I thought this whole thing was behind me I ended up meeting my now boyfriend yay
one day we were walking to his car because he paid for a parking pass and I was still too stubborn to pay for one
and we ran straight into creepy lab partner I quickly put my head down and played on my phone until we passed each
other and did not think anything of it that night I got a very angry email from him through our student emails saying
that I lied to him and to go [ __ ] myself and many other mean comments about how I
how terrible I was for telling him I didn't want did not want to date him in cell Behavior yep his tone went from
being sorry to being pissed at this point I had no idea what to do so I did the only thing I could think of I called
my parents and told them about the email since they knew everything else was going on they both got very worried and
told me I needed to go tell someone on campus that I trusted and explain the whole situation in case something did
happen the next day I went and talked to my amazing boss who encouraged me to go
straight to the head of security of the chemistry chemistry Department after here excuse me head of the chemistry
environment after hearing the whole story and sat with me while I talked to the head of the chem department they
then told me that I should go to campus police and make a formal report so the next day my loving boyfriend
drove me to the police station I then gave my statement to some police officer that made me feel like I was
overreacting and making this a bigger deal than it really was a douchebag is what you mean so I ended up feeling like
I made a mistake and felt stupid for this whole situation the officer told me since he never threatened me they really
couldn't do anything it's wild like the [ __ ] like you have to get hurt for them to do so yeah literally but like
has he like tried to stab you though yet no and if he does that let us know for sure seriously I decided to move on with
my life and never been thought that everything was behind me but nope I was wrong again oh no the next week one of
my ta friends told me that creepy lab partner was in the library with her and a friend and he in a friend and he made
a comment about how easy it would be to steal chloroform from the stockrooms he did not think anything of it until the
next day when she remembered everything that I had told her she quickly went to report to the department head and I went
to class that night me and my roommates were playing board games when I got a call from a random number on my phone
turns out it was the department head and he wanted to let me know that he heard the com about the comment and went to
check the chloroform and some of it was missing oh my God I immediately broke down in tears on our porch because holy
[ __ ] he then went on to tell me that he already contacted campus police and made
them aware of this the part that really sucked was I had a chemistry test the next day that I did not get at that I
did not get out of obviously I failed the [ __ ] out of that time the next day the department had walked
into my lab and told me that the stockroom assistant counted wrong and there was no missing chloroform are you
[ __ ] kidding me I would have been like so I'm retaking the test [ __ ] I'd be pissed after talking with my
friend that reported the comment it turns out she was good friends with the stockroom assistant who checked and
there were still some missing but no one knew where it was wow so the stockroom assistant is trying
to like save his butt by being like I didn't lose any chlorophy exactly after talking to some of the other chemistry
student workers creepy lab partner was making multiple other girls very uncomfortable that is not shocking so
after all of that we have no idea if he took the missing chloroform and I finally graduated and got to move out of
that small town and away from creepy lab partner so that is the story of creepy lab partner I still feel like I
overreact you did not but it happened and I can't change it so oh well I guess keep it weird weirdos but not so weird
Ash take it away I'm not good with words girly me either but don't keep it so weird that you [ __ ] steal some
chloroform out of a [ __ ] place where they keep chloroform that chloroform place I just feel like
students should not be in charge of chloroform that's my take away from this that is my hot take with Ash I'll take
with Ash maybe we put like the teachers in charge of the chloroform I just I don't I don't know about this guys
I feel like we should have some more protocol in place Kim are wild things I mean sounds like it
it's wild west chem students are Wilding um yeah oh man you did but can we just point out you did not overreact yeah no
you did not overreact at all and I hate that somebody made you feel better and there is no such thing I personally
believe there's no such thing as overreacting when it comes to your feelings about your personal safety yeah
absolutely I don't give a [ __ ] if somebody makes you think that you're overreacting because [ __ ] that person
exactly it's like if oh I'm sorry am I stressing you out with my feelings yeah about somebody being a dick to me that's
your job campus police officer seriously [Music] thank you oy Bay well I think we've got time to
read one more listen which one are we gonna do I picked my roommate was slowly being replaced by her doppelganger and
her haunted chair Factory yeah you did pick that because I wanted to know a lot about the haunted chairs and I wanted to
know if the doppelganger was a um live person or if they had once been a live person and they are now a ghost I
also want to know that well let's find out [ __ ] hello Deb dab and maybe Ash and Elena if I charm and Dazzle dub
dub enough you did you did it let me address a couple pieces of business before we get into the fun you can call
me Nick Nick all names have been changed attached is a double space puttifa it's
short but it hopefully packs a [ __ ] punch the [ __ ] and now for the affection you ladies
have saved my life in more ways than you know thank you keep doing what you're doing you're working uh maintains some
karmic order in the universe I'm convinced with all my luck Nick that was so sweet
all right it says until now I didn't think I had any Tales to send in but alas there was the doppelganger Affair
the doppelganger Affair oh just that I'm a medical student another family who was
getting ready to match in my reg [ __ ] I am a medical student who is getting ready to match into my residency program
there you go thanks I'm trying to match into plastic and reconstructive surgery which is hard to do because it's very
competitive you're about to be on that show Nip Tuck there you go I would love to just nail people back together after
reference um put a topical reference I think I was thinking of it from the SNL oh yeah
I would love to just nail people back together after an accident or cancer or animal attack Etc yeah just nail people
back together and snip and tuck them back together returning someone to some idea of normalcy after disfiguring
tragedy would be the greatest honor of my life wow I really like you you are so kind you're a really cool person Nick I
know but anyway I currently live with my lovely black Kitty who I adore who I love more than my own life I just really
yeah I was like you love them no you know you adore them we are bound to each other and we'll continue to meet
lifetime after a lifetime into eternity that's how I feel about Bobo that's how I feel about Drew
um and my partner he's for like animals yeah well and my cats obviously and my partner he's here too but before living
with them I lived with two other students in a converted chair Factory in the industrial area of our city both
women were working on their doctorates in physiology holy [ __ ] uh we all met while working in the
research lab I got into when I was finishing my Master's in physiology I'm a professional student as you can see oh
yeah the ladies will call them Amy and Sarah spent a lot of time in class in the lab working on Research or in the
library writing up their findings Sarah was a little hummingbird of a person oh I love that always talking to whoever
and having a whole last conversation extroverted freak what's that like I didn't say that they did Amy was me
Ultra introverted but also but able to mingle and drain the social battery when absolutely necessary that tidbit of
information will be important later the chair Factory turned apartment building was an impeding six-story structure that
stood gazing South to the heart of downtown Detroit oh I see that what a beautiful sentence I see that if I was
an English teacher a plus a plus a plus plus the apartment was Aloft with high ceilings and massive picture windows I
[ __ ] love a picture window that brought me to my knees when the heating building every month yeah except for
that from some quick research the factory opened around 1910 on the outskirts of an area known as the black
bottom which is northeast of downtown Detroit it was named for the rich dark soil in the area that was framed or nope
that was farmed by frame settlers that soil didn't do it it was framed by those French settlers it was fun by the French
settlers in the prior centuries the area then became a prominent place for black
detroiters around the turn of the 20th century they built up the area into a rich
successful neighborhood by the 1960s it had appeared with Urban noted disappeared sorry my contacts are
getting so dry and then I get um Blind by the 1960s and then I get um blind I wish you could see
my hand motion it just like threw my hands out by the 1960s it had disappeared with the urban renewal that
was happening in Detroit like a lot of buildings in Detroit leading up to the city firing bankruptcy in 2015. the
factories had abandoned until good old gentrification swooped in and the factory was converted into needlessly
expensive apartments that people living in the area for Generations could never afford
that does suck all of that to say this building was old and creepy as [ __ ] hell
yeah thanks for that little history lesson I like it I was mostly alone for the duration of the day while Amy and
Sarah were at school curing cancer or whatever it is they were hearing cancer you know I would stream my lectures
online because your girl has raging ADHD and bipolar disorder so I have a hard time sitting still and patiently waiting
for class to be over respectively because people with mental health issues can be doctors as well hell yeah hell
yeah let this be a lesson to the doubters a mentally ill black girl who was covered in tattoos who grew up well
below the poverty line her entire life is going to be a doctor [ __ ] yeah where
there's a will there's a mother [ __ ] way and I added the [ __ ] Nick Nick Nick Nick Nick Dr Nick doctor
doctor but like I was saying I spent my days alone until my roommate Sarah started
coming home oh I know where we're headed oh not Sarah uh she started coming home mid-afternoon
a few days a week I didn't think much of this because she was in her fifth year working on her dissertation so I figured
writing at home was better for her Zen or for her writing Zen or whatever I would say hi in other pleasantries she
would always simply nod and disappear into her room there were instances a few days later when Sarah came home early
while I studied at the dining room table I smiled slightly and asked her a question about a professor whose lab she
worked in hey how's Mr Miller doing nothing she just stared at me with a small Pleasant smile on her face thinking she
just didn't hear me I repeated the question how's Dr Miller again nothing just that stare after what
felt like six hours she broke our mutual stare and casually walked into her room
she's a tall gray yeah she's a tall gray that's what she is not a tall drink of water tall tall gray much different
thoroughly freaked out I tried to shake it off and focus on my little doctor notes about two hours later I heard a
set of keys jingle outside the front door I looked up to greet Amy coming through the door but the sum of my
internal organs fell through the floor when I saw Sarah walk through the door again what the [ __ ] I wish I could say I
did something smart like tell Sarah what happened or launch an investigation like
the true scientists we are but I'm a freeze kind of girl I stared I stared a hole through my laptop while Sarah
chatted eagerly about her day and filled to fitted flitted around the apartment never breaking the stream of
Consciousness flowing from her lips to take a breath shortly Amy was also doing the Jingle at the door and stepping over
the threshold now that there was power in numbers I worked up the courage to ask Sarah another question hey Sarah did
you come home for lunch today oh my God I thought you said Hey Siri oh my god oh was that your computer that
was my computer being like yeah oh my gosh I heard that weird noise and then there was like a drop in the room next
to me like slightly because it's like creaking or something and I just [ __ ] myself they're cool not actively
um sorry I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry that just scared the [ __ ] out of me okay uh so Sarah did you come home for lunch
today that was an invitation to detail her entire afternoon oh no I went to blah blah blah blah blah no blah blah
blah blah blah did not include our apartment to stare at me like a tiny smiling psycho oh [ __ ] I tried to
downplay the question because I was questioning my sanity at this point I said Oh I thought I came home a couple
hours ago must have been another day I was thinking of she continued I haven't come home for lunch in a while weird
what the [ __ ] nope nope I hate that I hate that all those times I saw her come
home early wasn't her what this peak Jamie attention like at all I've seen you here recently I've seen you here
early too recently what I loved and hated that validation I wasn't on the verge of psychosis but I was still
seeing something that I should not be seeing but what do you do about that we basically went on living Our Lives
knowing that there was a creepy silent version of Sarah wandering around our apartment
doppelgamer gangers are a sign that bad things are coming are they not that's what I've heard so
and I wasn't particularly interesting in finding out what Final Destination [ __ ]
was a [ __ ] yeah me neither but I want to know that I want to know now because I'm
not in there I was in that [ __ ] apartment I'd be like well you know we don't know things so if I was in that
apartment I would literally break the [ __ ] out of my lease and live anywhere else that's just like if I was in that
apartment I would not be in that apartment that's exactly where I would be not there another few weeks passed
without a sight of Silence era oh until one night oh to preface I have the bladder of a small puppy
I got up two or three times every night to go potty so per my usual schedule I awoke with my bladder screaming for
Relief I crawled out of bed and I stepped toward the door of my bedroom oh no oh [ __ ] no no no [ __ ]
no oh my God upon opening my bedroom door the form of Sarah stood outside my door softly lit by Christmas lights
strung Around My Room no [ __ ] that smiling softly she turned and nearly drifted to the bathroom leaving me
stunned so I thought [ __ ] I need to go in there in that moment my bladder needed me to
assert my dominance it needed me to be the head [ __ ] in charge in that moment and kick silent Sarah out of the potty
fully expecting to be dragged to Hell through the drain of the shower I approached the bathroom and flicked on
the light nothing just an empty bathroom boy fully expecting to be dragged to Hell through
the dream and that's everything we didn't see silence Sarah after that we all moved out and went on with our
respective careers hate to end it like that the life doesn't always deliver a perfect Story start to finish regardless
I wish you ladies the best of luck with life family and business and any Endeavors you have before you and all
you you too Nick all my love Dr Nick hell yeah Nick how [ __ ] yeah that one was the scariest thing I've
ever heard in my [ __ ] life that was so creepy I I I just don't buy it genuinely this is so foul but I think I
genuinely would have found a bottle to pee in that night yeah I'm not jokes potentially yes the one the Hondo P yes
yeah I don't think I'd be going in that I got that from somebody and I can't think of who I got that from what Hondo
P hundo P I've been saying it a lot lately like you know 100 but like hundo P I must have got it from somebody on
Bravo probably just gotta give credit where credit's due that gives lots of Bravo
Vibes yeah well anyways this has been listener Tales wow I'm really happy to be back I don't remember if I was on the
last one or not um I think I don't think I was oh you think I was okay maybe I'm not really
sure where we are in the rotation we had special guest Sheena melwani and trid on
it when we did they're beautiful souls I [ __ ] love them with my whole entire being she's my beautiful luna moth yeah
she's just my shishi yeah and if anybody else calls her that I'll kill you I'll kill you
so love you guys and we hope you keep listening we hope you keep but also weird that you call my best
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Listener Tales 71 is here and we think this is a pretty dope one! Make sure to keep your ear out for the special announcement at the top of the show, and then we dive into all things creepy, weird and macabre. On today's installment, we feature stories about doppelgangers, a group of listeners who could have been featured on an episode of Dateline, and the creepiest chloroform-stealing lab partner. If you have a listener tale that you would like to send in please do so and direct it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :)

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Brief Summary

Listeners share chilling tales of kidnapping, creepy encounters, and unsettling lab partners.

Key points

Listener Feedback Changes Podcast Format. The hosts discuss changes to their episode release schedule based on listener feedback.
A Tale of Kidnapping and Boxing. A listener shares a wild story about their grandfather's kidnapping and heroic rescue by his brother.
Illegal Adoption with a Twist. A story about a grandfather's involvement in an illegal adoption that went hilariously wrong.
Close Call with Dateline. A group of friends recounts a near-miss experience that could have landed them on Dateline.
Unexpected Intruder. A night of fun turns into a terrifying encounter when a stranger falls asleep in their bedroom.
Lock It Up!. The girls discover the broken lock that allowed the intruder access to their room.

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