If I Can’t Have You /// Part 2 /// 536 | Forensic Files

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reintroduced to Kyler yust a name we've heard before he was the boyfriend of missing person Cara kapetsky from nine
years ago Jessica did not tell Jackson that she was going out with Kyler that Thursday night when she did not come
home now at this time Kyler was living in Kansas City with his grandfather this after being released
from prison just over a month earlier and he was hanging out with Jessica runyons of Raymore
who was as said apparently the girlfriend or ex-girlfriend of Kyler's friend Jackson Mallet meanwhile on
Saturday September 10 2016 at 1 41 a.m the Kansas City Fire Department found a vehicle on fire at 95th Street and Blue
River Road this is in Jackson County Missouri the man who reported the car fire recognized the license plate of the
burning vehicle as that belonging to a girl he'd seen online as missing Jessica Runyan indeed the car which was
incinerated to a smoking shell was Jessica's Equinox it had been deliberately set Ablaze with
gasoline spread inside and out of the vehicle later that day on the 10th a young man named Jessup Carter called the
Belton Police Department he told them that he was with his half-brother Kyler yust
apparently they share a mother when Kyler said Jessica Runyan's vehicle on fire further Kyler confessed to Jessup that
he had strangled Jessica and that she was gone double douche canoes Tyler told Jessup he dragged her into the woods and
left her there Kyler had asked Jessup to help him destroy the vehicle and to hide evidence
and while he was burning the vehicle Kyler got burned himself yes he managed to burn his hands and face while setting
Jessica's car on fire Jessup took Kyler to a trailer home in Edwards Missouri to let him hide out for
a while and heal from these Burns but then he decided to call the police it's too bad Jessup didn't decide to put
Kyler out with the shovel authorities obtained a search warrant to search his mobile home they were looking for
evidence in relation to the vehicle fire and to a missing person's investigation
well and remember he was also the main suspect in The Disappearance of Cara they collected a blue plaid shirt and an
alcohol pad and a Q-tip with blood on them but more importantly they found Kyler
yust hiding out just as Jessup had said photos of Kyler taken by police showed that he had burns on his face he also
had Burns and blisters on his arms and hands and in my opinion Captain if you look closely at these pictures you can
see he also has scratches on his face and hands that came possibly from Jessica runions defending herself what's
interesting that you point that out because that's in my notes but that's not reported anywhere well since they
had no idea where Jessica was police did not feel that they had enough to arrest
Kyler for her murder they don't know in fact at this point if she has been killed they just know that she's missing
at this time so what they did do though was they arrested him on charges of knowingly
burning a vehicle which of course is not as serious as murder but at least it would ensure that
he would be locked up for a while right while they're going to try to obtain other evidence against Kyler but also
based on what his half-brother is saying it leads you to the idea that we need to
find her and chances are you're not going to find you're not going to find Jessica live yes in these situations you
are looking for a live missing person until you have something to suggest otherwise and here with jessup's story
that he's telling two police we have something to suggest otherwise very sad and disgusting Kyler was taken in by
detectives from the Kansas City Police Department's fugitive apprehension unit on Wednesday September 14th this was his
28th birthday he was arrested and held on fifty thousand dollars cash only Bond and at this time in our timeline Captain
Kyle wasn't talking to anyone anymore Kansas City Police issued a press release conducted searches for Jessica
interviewed all of her friends and acquaintances and followed up on tips and leads they searched the area where
Jessica's car was found for two days reportedly they collected a bag that belonged to Jessica found where the
vehicle was set Ablaze they continued searches for Jessica over the next few months even asking the public for any
type of surveillance footage that they may have from their homes or from businesses that were near
the location that the vehicle was found well this is like deja vu to this small town 25 000 people this just happened
nine years ago where we were looking for card now we're looking for Jessica this
whole Community is going to Rally around these families Cara's family is going rally around Jessica's Family and I wish
more communities were like this and it's just great to see in this case so the authorities searched Kyler's
grandfather's apartment remember he's living there briefly with his grandfather once he got out of prison
this was in the 8700 block of Crescent Avenue Kyler's grandfather his name Alfred used
aged 85 at the time told the police he didn't know what was going on with Kyler as he hadn't been around for a few days
Alfred later told the star that Kyler was a good boy when he was living with him and his late wife he said he never
saw the side of Kyler that police say they were seeing meanwhile Jaime runions this is Jessica's mother was going crazy
with worry about her missing daughter right where could she be one you would think
that law enforcement would a relay they basically have a confession from Kyler to dress up about him strangling Jessica
and leaving her out in the woods her family spent the time Captain conducting organized searches actively looking for
Jessica and handing out flyers they told the media that these activities keep us
from sitting at home waiting for a phone call adding that we can't just sit this
was Mike runyon's Jessica's grandfather told the Kansas City Star Jamie found some solace in the only
person who could understand what she was going through believe it or not it's Rhonda Beckford
we've heard that name before that's because that's Cara kapetsky's mother Rhonda and her husband Carr's stepfather
they've been actively keeping cars case in the public eye for all these years now organizing rallies and walks and
keeping the Belton Police accountable even as the investigation dragged on with seemingly nothing
Rhonda told the Kansas City Star that when she first learned on the news that Jessica runyons was missing
and that she had last been seen with a man named Kyler used her heart sank she reached out to Jamie Rhonda said her
primary focus now was supporting Jamie and helping her stay positive she told the star quote when you're
going through something like this you have to hold on to hope if you don't you end up in a very dark place that's good
advice she hoped that with Kyler's arrest some light would be shed on what happened to her daughter Cara as well as
Jessica over the next months with no sign of Jessica her family held vigils sold
t-shirts passed out flyers and tried to keep the pressure on the police to find their missing girl
they also searched everywhere they could dedicating as many as three days a week
every week to look for Jessica and this is kind of shocking here captain not once but twice
in fact two weeks in a row groups out looking for Jessica discovered other human remains
they found bodies in Brushy wooded areas bodies that were not Jessica or Cara at
least the family thought that they were providing some type of closure for some other families if not their own well and
also remember if you go back nine years prior this restraining order against Kyler was that he was choking Cara so
now here we have another situation where somebody's claiming that he strangled Jessica yeah and like you pointed out
the Belton authorities it looks like they were fairly certain that Kyler was the one responsible for Cara's
disappearance way back in 2007 and they just couldn't prove it Belton PD Lieutenant Brad Swanson often visited
Kyler in prison and made sure that Kyler saw him when he was set free so he tells
the Kansas City Star that I make sure that he never forgets that I'm around and this is interesting because it looks
like since 2009 the Kansas City Municipal Court Records showed that police gave Kyler at least eight traffic
citations for everything from failure to obey traffic signs parking in an improper Manner and running a red light
I mean these are all things that they should issue citations for anyway but it almost gives the appearance that the
police always seem to be around or on the lookout for Kyler they're kind of letting them know we're
watching you now that Kansas City Police had Kyler incarcerated for that car fire and again
he finds himself being the suspect number one in a disappearance of yet another young woman Belton Police began
working with the Kansas City Police Department to gather evidence against Kyler that could help them both put
murder cases together against him well in 2010 he was accused of trying to choke his 18 year old girlfriend to
death and he was also accused of trying to kill her three cats so what we have here
Captain is sadly Carr's case goes cold and then all these years later Jessica goes missing we have months that go by
and it looks like we're in danger of the same thing happening here in this case well it's hard to get a
conviction if you don't have the body well the break that law enforcement needed
it comes in the spring of 2017. this when a mushroom hunter Keith Todd was exploring the woods near a quarry for
fungi on April 3rd 2017. he was in the area of 233rd Street and Y Highway this is in
Cass County a heavily wooded area south of Belton Todd Came Upon what he immediately recognized as a human skull
he called police and reported what he found police roped off the area and looked for any evidence that they could
find and sure enough they found more human bones they were scattered many had been gnawed on and some were never found
police called the parents of both Jessica and Cara to let them know that remains had been found this was standard
operating procedure of course they had no idea whether the remains belonged to either of the girls at that time right
remember search teams had found bodies twice before on January 21st and January 28th that were not
the girls that they were looking for but Rhonda and Jamie did not sleep much that
night this is what they later later said to the media well and if you're law enforcement I I wonder if
they're more hopeful for one remains or the other because with the car case you have
some evidence that points towards Kyler but with the Jessica case especially with this supposed confession to Jessup
his half-brother that if you find her remains you're going to be able to build a
stronger case against them because you have that confession in the in your back pocket so while they're waiting on pins
and needles then the next day a second set of human remains believed to have been there much longer were found now at
the time Jamie and Rhonda were sitting down for a joint TV interview the call came in from Lieutenant Brad
Swanson who told them I'm not going to say 100 percent but just my gut is telling me we may have some resolution
police then summoned the families of both Jessica and Cara to a meeting at the police station Jamie and Rhonda face
the media afterwards holding hands they had to wait for confirmation of their worst fears but they said if the remains
were the girls they were glad they were together and indeed the Kansas City medical examiner's office and State
Crime Lab identified the first set of remains as Jessica runyons after Jessica was id'd Ronda Carr's mom acknowledged
that it could take months to determine whether the older bones found near Jessica belonged to her daughter she
said quote in my heart of hearts I believe it's Cara here we are still waiting yet again end quote the second
set of remains was finally identified through DNA as Cara on August 16 2017 this with the help of the FBI crime lab
in Quantico Jamie said that while she had searched for months in months for her daughter
she never went as far as the 233rd Street location where the remains were eventually found
[Music] [Music] all right we're back you filthy animals cheers to you cheers to everyone out
there all right Captain how about a little background information on Kyler here what we could find says he was born in
1988 reportedly he never knew his mother Janine until his teen years and his father Kenny as we have seen or heard
was reportedly a meth addict Kyler was raised by his grandparents this is Alfred and Doris used and he was
troubled from a very early age court documents filed by his attorney site Kyler being sexually abused as a child
and suffering from PTSD as a result and maintained that he also was diagnosed with bipolar disorder whatever the cause
of his delinquency court documents reflect that Kyler has said he started abusing alcohol at a very young age at
the age of 11 smoking pot at age 12 and using cocaine at age 14 saying he even dabbled in heroin by age 16. people who
knew him said that he was very charismatic as you pointed out earlier but people also said he could turn angry
within seconds and as a teen he started getting into legal trouble one early arrest was from 2010 this for stealing
from a tattoo parlor where he worked for which he served 10 days in jail and soon
after he nearly killed a woman this is going to kind of flesh out that story that you were talking about a little bit
earlier here one from 2010. yeah this was a girlfriend of Kyler's and she should be described in my opinion as
very very lucky because she was able to eventually get away from Kyler still alive this was Candace Martin Saint
Claire Kyler assaulted her sometime in 2010 and at that time Candace was 18 and six months pregnant with twins fathered
by Kyler the two were living together for about six months but his behavior became increasingly aggressive and
violent so she was trying to leave him Kyler came home drunk one night when she was packing her bags to leave and he
grabbed her around the throat with both hands pinning her to the bed she said that he looked deranged as he was
choking her until she would almost lose Consciousness and then he punched her to
make sure that she would stay awake and aware she says that she finally passed out but when she woke up up he was lying
behind her spooning her and Whispering I love you and telling her that if she was
good that would not happen again this guy's a raging psychopath but this was not the entire story for one thing
Candace told police that at two different times Kyler killed some kittens right in front of her the couple
had three kittens together and for my own sake and everybody else is without going into any detail
he killed them all Kyler was beating up Candace in fact he bragged to her that he had killed a girlfriend in the
past and would do the same to her if she left him well the killing of the cats is
that's Luka magnotta's [ __ ] you know puka not hotter nevertheless Candace said that she felt sorry for Kyler as he
threatened to kill himself often if she left and he also was the father of these
unborn twins so she kind of felt forced to stay with him at that time she didn't report the
attack at the time but after a while with the kittens and some other stuff his behavior became so frightening that
she left and didn't look back yeah good for her and after she left she noticed him
following her and him leaving threatening messages for her to find part of the problem is that these guys
are so manipulative and they can twist words and they can make you think that you're crazy but you have to have your
radar out for these creep bags and family members and friends have to have their Radars out for these creep bags
and I wish people would just raise better men so women wouldn't have to put up with
this [ __ ] she too attempted to obtain an order of protection against Kyler eventually she
had it dropped this once they got back together they were on and off for quite some time it looks like
um before it was finally over Candace said that she did not realize that Kyler was a suspect in a girl's disappearance
until she Googled him and found that there was a connection between him and Cara kapetsky well and she would have
found that Kara's claims against Kyler are the same claims that she was making because he he does this to every girl he
dates then a judge ordered the arrest of Kyler for failing to appear in court for
each of the tattoo parlor incident and the kitten killing situations he was arrested and charged with animal cruelty
so Kyler pled guilty and got two years probation for several charges right he eventually violated his probation by
failing to attend a single this is crazy he's ordered to attend 26 Court mandated
batterers intervention classes he fails to attend a single one like not even going to fake it for a little while
right because he's a giant bag of [ __ ] so at that time Captain his probation was then revoked and he's sentenced to
180 days in jail he eventually serves 120 of that but look if you know for a fact that Kyler if you're law
enforcement you know for a fact that this a horrible human well he's at this point he's not even acting in any way
shape or form like a human he kills several cats that you got to give him more than two years probation
even with all this violence and stuff going on he's also busy committing other types of crimes and several of these are
serious crimes at some point he gotten Big Time legal trouble when he got caught receiving a shipment from China
of quote-unquote designer drugs this was an intercepted by Customs agents in San
Francisco this was a something I'm very I'm really not familiar with here thankfully uh
this was a drug with the street name meow meow wait so he's killing cats and he's taking drugs called meow meow well
probably looking to sell them if he's not oh he's taking them he's consuming them and looking to sell them because
eventually he's going to be charged with a felony of drug trafficking based off of this situation so he sentenced to 45
months in federal prison and he only ends up serving about 27 months of this and he was permitted to live in a
halfway house for two months after that and then starting in April of 2016 He was ordered to home confinement and his
grandfather's apartment this in Kansas City so this kind of brings us up to the point of Jessica
going missing in September of 2016. but like you said when Jessica goes missing we we know she was last
seen with Kyler then we know through his half-brother Jessup that we burned her vehicle Jessup is also telling you hey
Kyler confessed to me saying that he strangled her and threw her out in the woods yeah but I also find it weird
we talk about this all the time I don't care if he's your half brother or what he is if a scumbag tells you hey
choke this girl and I threw her out in the woods and I need to help me burn her car he he better have something damn
good on you or you shouldn't be helping in the first place and I find it very strange that he
showed Jessup shows up to help Kyler Jessup shows up with his girlfriend and she's
I and and I'd like to know a little bit more information on this I couldn't find
it but she had a pistol with her well we have to keep in mind that often people don't realize they're an accessory to a
crime until their accessory to a crime right you usually don't lead in with hey I murdered someone can you help me a lot
of times it's uh hey I need you to pick me up from here I need you to meet me here and then next thing you know your
hands are dirty as well well see that's also why I wondered and was in that clear is it possible that Kyler says hey
uh come pick me up here Jessup shows up and the car is already on fire and he had nothing to do with the car actually
being on fire other than he was there because Kyler obviously got some pretty bad burn marks from the fire Jessup did
it yeah so that is really all the information that's leading us up to when Jessica runyon's vanishes in 2016 which
was on September 8th I do want to point out too that by the time that Kyler is arrested in 2016 for the burning vehicle
he had three children at that point now Kyler's first court appearance after this arrest was eagerly attended by
Rhonda Beckford Carr's family had made sure to send someone to every court appearance of Kyler's throughout the
years so remember how we pointed out that the police kind of reminded Kyler over the years hey we're watching you we
don't like you we think you're a scumbag he received a lot of traffic citation anytime he was charged with something
that was big enough to hit the papers over the years Cara's parents would show up and sit in court yeah that's awesome
and kind of rally behind the idea of well we don't have any answers in our case in our daughter's case but at least
the guy that we're convinced did this is going to be locked up even if it's just for months
he's going to be locked up well a lot of these missing person cases where it takes them a long time to find any
remains especially when there's some kind of accomplice normally it takes a very long time for
the accomplice to come forward but just a call in law enforcement the night that
this happens yeah and that's where the storytelling portion of this case gets a little
difficult to follow along in the timeline because what we're going to see here Captain is Kyler will be arrested
in charge for burning Jessica's vehicle but keep in mind when he's arrested and charged with that
there is no bodies at this time we've not located Jessica we've not located Cara
and it makes the story kind of not follow along a natural order to things So currently on our timeline we have
Kyler arrested for burning Jessica's vehicle mm-hmm now remember that Jessup Carter
Kyler's half-brother called the police and reported Kyler for burning her car but also for killing
Jessica this was in September of 2016. in April of 2017 an article in the star reported
that police had been seeking Jessup Carter on an outstanding felony charges for a traffic stop that went down on the
day Jessica's car was burned this was on the 10th of September deputies from the Henry County Sheriff's
Office pulled over jessup's 1998 Dodge Durango for crossing the center line and drifting onto the grass on Northeast
Missouri Highway number two as well for failing to have a working plate illumination light
in the vehicle at the time where Kyler used and a woman named Crystal Taylor this is jessup's long
time girlfriend the cops frisked the occupants of the vehicle and found a knife on Jessup and a gun on crystal
Jessup was charged in April of 2017 this six months later with resisting a traffic stop as well as multiple
misdemeanors such as driving without a license being uninsured and failing to display plates but he was also wanted on
a charge of failure to appear in a domestic assault case this whole bloodline is full of [ __ ] Jessup
eventually turned himself into Authorities on April 28th it's not clear why the charges were were just now filed
in 2017 when the incident took place in 2016 it seems likely that the police wanted to
keep pressure on Jessup to give them more information about Kyler and what the three of them were doing
that day after Jessica's car was found on fire so on May 4th 2017 this is at the 10th Annual walk for Cara
we have over 100 people here walking in observance of the 10th anniversary of her disappearance you know they're
holding signs honoring the young woman demonstrating support for the family she had still not been identified at
this time remember it wasn't until August 16th that she was officially confirmed via
DNA but my hat goes off and you have to applaud this community how much they rallied around both of these girls Cara
and Jessica yes and at this at this annual walk for Cara we have her mother Rhonda who tells the newspaper I am
finally relieved to have confirmation we've known for a long time that Cara was gone and we felt when they found the
other remains that the other set was Cara it's been a long 10 years and this is the start of hopefully moving forward
toward a prosecution Kyler's trial for the vehicle arson was scheduled to commence on October 23 2017 but on the
5th of that month there was big news Kyler was officially charged with murder for the killings of Jessica and Cara the
initial charges included two counts of Abandonment of a corpse but these charges were later dismissed the
probable cause affidavit stated that at least four people told investigators that Kyler had confessed to choking Kara
to death he told some that he put her body in the woods and others that she would never be
found and October 6 2017 article said it's not clear why used was not charged in
kopetsky's death earlier and a follow-up article says might Jessica be alive today had he been arrested in connection
with Cara's death based on those multiple recountings to acquaintances about the killing these articles are
pointing out that police had witness statements months after Carr went missing that Kyler killed her right and so now
everybody's really concerned that hey we may have saved a life if we could have locked this guy up all those years
earlier yeah and the community is law enforcement can't make this mistake again right and so what we have here now
Captain we have Kyler's going to face charges in multiple counties but you have the counties that are kind of going
to band together and they're like you know what we can afford to drop the arson charges we can cancel that trial
let's all band together and focus instead on the much more serious murder case so Kyler he's allowed to plead not
guilty to these charges this in October of 2017. now how now brown cow how now brown cow
we need to go back just a minute here because after Jessup the half-brother was released for turning himself in in
April 2017. well he went on a bit of a bender his girlfriend and then wife Crystal
Taylor remember she was the one in the vehicle with Kyler and Jessup on that night said that after the episode where
Jessup called the police on his brother that he relapsed into drugs and then very quickly went downhill he was
arrested for domestic violence and she took the kids and stayed in a shelter for a while
when Jessup was arrested again in April of 2017 for failure to appear on those domestic violence charges and for
various charges from the incident where he was pulled over with Kyler and Crystal
he's asked by reporters you know will you comment on Kyler use case at this point and he says that he could not but
that his family did not approve of what Kyler had done and they empathized with the girls families in July of the same
year Crystal turned on the news and saw jessup's Uncle Paul's house Okay so this is where Jessup was staying she
sees Paul's house on the news because it's on fire and Jessup was arrested for arson this
guy has some issues and for trying to stop firefighters from putting out the fire
so he's booked into County Jail on September 24th Jessop was found dead in his cell at 4 30 a.m of an apparent
suicide he hung himself police said apparently there was an FBI investigation into his death but there
was nothing to show that it was not a suicide however this is a weird little nugget here
Jessup left behind a note that has been regularly referred to as encrypted and believe it or not that note has
magically disappeared well maybe I'm just a freak you know maybe I'm just freaked nasty with it but uh when I hear
suicide Cryptid note I want to get my hands on that I want to know what he was trying to communicate and
and then it makes you wonder why did it go missing Jessup was in the back pocket
of law enforcement so now with the suicide you got to toss that away it's going to make convicting Kyler a lot
more difficult you're exactly right and that was the fear the shared fear at that time we
have both Jessica and Cara's families they're now very concerned that Jessup is dead he was expected or at least they
expected him to be the star witness in the state's murder case against Kyler Jessup even once proclaimed that he
wanted the families to feel better at night that Kyler was finally put away I mean those are his words so you would
expect him to be the star Witness but clearly he must have been conflicted about testifying against Kyler or
you know he was spiraling out of control it's really tough to say when we examine
this situation here well and he had that heavy drug addiction that he was back at
but another little interesting nugget here Captain is that at this time yeah it was not public information
that Jessup had ratted out Kyler you did a rat so I don't know if he was dreading
testifying against him or what have you but he commits suicide the prosecutors have
to forge ahead and they go on record saying Jessup was a problematic witness anyway right because he was in jail for
arson and had two protective orders taken out against him so while he may have had good information to offer up on
the stand they weren't super in love with this guy because he was no saint himself well again he he calls right
away after this after they set fire to Jessica's vehicle and then now he commits suicide it's almost like he was
so remorseful or so so much hated that he was involved at all that that's why he took his own life seems that way to
me anyways it very well could be it also could be a I think it's probably a mountain of things or maybe he was more
involved than he's even telling people and he just couldn't live with himself it looks to me regardless of his
involvement he was going to go away to prison himself right and that might have not been something that he was willing
to live with yeah I agree with you Kyler's attorneys they were doing their best at this time to delay the trial and
to dig up evidence exonerating Kyler in December of 2019 they sought the right to independently test the remains
found by the mushroom hunter as well as hair recovered from an SUV searched by the FBI in 2013. this was the vehicle of
someone who had been looked at as a potential other suspect in Cara's case the defense is trying to raise concerns
about this alternative suspect well they're trying to do the same thing that Kyler was doing point in every direction
other than himself correct and that and that's not where the twist in turn stop with this case he's going to start
throwing more people under the bus once this hits trial well and the thing too is
this is kind of leaving the door open right once Jessup kills himself now if you're the defender of Kyler
you're looking at this through a different lens you're going okay well maybe regardless of what the police say
he very likely could have been their star witness now that guy's gone so the door is open to a potential
defense here and the first thing that they start attacking is look there was another suspect at one point in at least
Cara's murder and in Carr's disappearance and what they're saying at this point is
we don't think that this guy was thoroughly investigated well it's too bad Jessup took his own life because we
could have got him on the stand like and A Few Good Men and said Colonel Jessup I want the truth
give me the truth the defense for Kyler also filed motions challenging some of the witness statements in the case
because they allege that a Kansas City police officer who was working the case was told to step back from it as this
officer was involved in a sexual relationship with one of the witnesses but then continued to investigate the
case even after being told not to so the defense questioned the Integrity of the
evidence and the Integrity of the investigation itself at one point the defense made a motion to have the judge
removed because they argued that he was biased against their client this motion was
denied by another judge and they allege that their confidential phone email and text conversations with
Kyler from jail were improperly recorded and reviewed by the Cass County Sheriff's Office yeah they're just
trying every freaking trick in the book and they're you know just pulling [ __ ]
out of their ass throwing the [ __ ] on the wall and seeing what sticks on August 23 2019 Kyler's attorneys filed a
motion to have him declared incompetent to stand trial and seeking a psych evaluation
a mental evaluation found that he was in fact competent to stand trial however there was some back and forth as the
defense attorneys objected to this finding and insisted on a second opinion they then backed out of the second
opinion but required Kyler to be medicated for anxiety and depression which who knows how much of it was smoke
and mirrors by the defense team the trial eventually commenced in April of 2021 but not before Kyler's defense
attorneys moved for a change of venue claiming that he could not receive a fair trial in Cass County eventually
both sides agreed that the trial would stay in Cass County but jurors would be imported from Saint Charles County
closer to St Louis meanwhile the poor families of our victims had to endure more waiting and a
statement from John Runyon said we want Justice for Jessica and Cara which in turn would be Justice for our families
and our community [Music] [Music] join us back here for part three there's so much more to get to if you have
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This week’s True Crime story involves several disappearances and murders. It’s a case that has spanned years. 17 Year old Kara Kopetsky of Belton, Missouri went missing in May of 2007. Less than one month later, recent High School graduate Kelsey Smith goes missing after what was to be a quick trip to her local Target store. In 2016, Jessica Runions is reported missing to Kansas City PD after attending a party with friends. Join us in the Garage for an adult beverage or three as Nic & Captain go through all of the details surrounding these cases.

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Brief Summary

Kyler Yust's violent past resurfaces as he confesses to murdering Jessica Runyon, whose remains are later found alongside Cara Kapetsky's.

Key points

The Burning Vehicle Discovery. A car belonging to missing Jessica Runyan is found burned, raising alarms about her fate.
Kyler's Confession. Kyler Yust confesses to his half-brother about strangling Jessica Runyan, escalating the investigation.
Remains Found. Human remains are discovered in the woods, leading to a tragic identification process.
Kyler's Legal Troubles. Kyler faces serious legal issues, including drug trafficking and arson charges.
Jessup's Confession. Jessup reveals Kyler's confession about strangling Jessica, raising serious concerns.
Community Support for Victims. The community rallies for the families of Jessica and Cara during a memorial walk.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

It's too bad Jessup didn't decide to put Kyler out with the shovel.

A darkly humorous reflection on Jessup's decision to call the police instead of taking action.

5:12WatchNov 2, 2022

Tension

75/ 100High tension

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