If I Can’t Have You /// Part 2/// 536 | Forensic Files

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[Music] when we left off captain we were reintroduced to kyler yust a name we've
heard before he was the boyfriend of missing person kara kopetsky from nine years ago
jessica did not tell jackson that she was going out with kyler that thursday night when she did not come home
now at this time kyler was living in kansas city with his grandfather this after being released
from prison just over a month earlier and he was hanging out with jessica runions of raymore
who was as said apparently the girlfriend or ex-girlfriend of kyler's friend jackson mallet meanwhile on
saturday september 10 2016 at 1 41 am the kansas city fire department found a vehicle on fire at
95th street and blue river road this is in jackson county missouri the man who reported the car fire
recognized the license plate of the burning vehicle as that belonging to a girl he'd seen
online as missing jessica runions indeed the car which was incinerated to a smoking shell
was jessica's equinox it had been deliberately set ablaze with gasoline spread inside and out of the
vehicle later that day on the 10th a young man named jessup carter called the belton
police department he told them that he was with his half-brother kyler yust apparently they share a mother
when kyler set jessica runyon's vehicle on fire further kyler confessed to jessup that he had strangled jessica
and that she was gone double douche canoes tyler told jessup he dragged her into the woods and left her there
kyler had asked jessup to help him destroy the vehicle and to hide evidence and while he was burning the vehicle
kyler got burned himself yes he managed to burn his hands and face while setting jessica's car on fire
jessup took kyler to a trailer home in edwards missouri to let him hide out for a while
and heal from these burns but then he decided to call the police it's too bad jessup didn't decide to put
kyler out with the shovel authorities obtained a search warrant to search his mobile home they were looking for
evidence in relation to the vehicle fire and to a missing person's investigation
and remember he was also the main suspect in the disappearance of cara they collected a blue plaid shirt
and an alcohol pad and a q-tip with blood on them but more importantly they found kyler yust hiding out just as
jessup had said photos of kyler taken by police show that he had burns on his face
he also had burns and blisters on his arms and hands and in my opinion captain if you look
closely at these pictures you can see he also has scratches on his face and hands that came possibly
from jessica runions defending herself well it's interesting that you point that out because that's in my notes but
that's not reported anywhere well since they had no idea where jessica was police did not feel that they had enough
to arrest kyler for her murder they don't know in fact at this point if she has been killed they
just know that she's missing at this time so what they did do though was they arrested him on charges of knowingly
burning a vehicle which of course is not as serious as murder but at least it would ensure that
he would be locked up for a while right while they're going to try to obtain other evidence against kyler but also
based on what his half-brother is saying it leads you to the idea that we need to
find her and chances are you're not going to find you're not going to find jessica live yes
in these situations you are looking for a live missing person until you have something to suggest otherwise and hear
with jessup's story that he's telling to police we have something to suggest otherwise very sad
and disgusting kyler was taken in by detectives from the kansas city police department's fugitive apprehension unit
on wednesday september 14th this was his 28th birthday he was arrested and held on fifty thousand
dollars cash only bond and at this time in our timeline captain kyler wasn't talking to anyone anymore
kansas city police issued a press release conducted searches for jessica interviewed all of her friends and
acquaintances and followed up on tips and leads they searched the area where jessica's
car was found for two days reportedly they collected a bag that belonged to jessica found where the
vehicle was set ablaze they continued searches for jessica over the next few months
even asking the public for any type of surveillance footage that they may have from their homes or from businesses that
were near the location that the vehicle was found well this is like deja vu to this small
town 25 000 people this just happened nine years ago where we were looking for car
and now we're looking for jessica this whole community is going to rally around these families
cara's family is going to rally around jessica's family and i wish more communities were like this
and it's just great to see in this case so the authorities searched kyler's grandfather's apartment remember he's
living there briefly with his grandfather once he got out of prison this was in the 8700 block of crescent
avenue kyler's grandfather his name alfred yust aged 85 at the time told the police he
didn't know what was going on with kyler as he hadn't been around for a few days
alfred later told the star that kyler was a good boy when he was living with him and his late wife he said he never
saw this side of kyler that police say they were seeing meanwhile jamie runions this is jessica's mother was going crazy
with worry about her missing daughter right where could she be well you would think that law
enforcement would have relayed they basically have a confession from kyler to jessup about him strangling jessica and
leaving her out in the woods her family spent the time captain conducting organized searches actively looking for
jessica and handing out flyers they told the media that these activities keep us from sitting at home
waiting for a phone call adding that we can't just sit this was mike runyan's jessica's grandfather told
the kansas city star jamie found some solace in the only person who could understand what she was
going through believe it or not it's rhonda beckford we've heard that name before that's
because that's kara kopetsky's mother rhonda and her husband carr's stepfather they've been actively keeping carr's
case in the public eye for all these years now organizing rallies and walks and keeping the belton police
accountable even as the investigation dragged on with seemingly nothing rhonda told the kansas city star
that when she first learned on the news that jessica runions was missing and that she had last been seen with a
man named kyler yust her heart sank she reached out to jaime rhonda said her primary focus now was
supporting jamie and helping her stay positive she told the star quote when you're
going through something like this you have to hold on to hope if you don't you end up in a very dark place that's
good advice she hoped that with kyler's arrest some light would be shed on what happened to her daughter cara as well as
jessica over the next months with no sign of jessica her family held vigils sold t-shirts passed out flyers
and tried to keep the pressure on the police to find their missing girl they also searched everywhere they could
dedicating as many as three days a week every week to look for jessica and this is kind of shocking here captain
not once but twice in fact two weeks in a row groups out looking for jessica discovered other human remains
they found bodies in brushy wooded areas bodies that were not jessica or cara at least the family thought that they
were providing some type of closure for some other families if not their own well and also remember
if you go back nine years prior this restraining order against kyler was that he was choking cara
so now here we have another situation where somebody's claiming that he strangled jessica yeah and like you
pointed out the belton authorities it looks like they were fairly certain that kyler was the one responsible for
cara's disappearance way back in 2007 and they just couldn't prove it belton pd lieutenant brad swanson often visited
kyler in prison and made sure that kyler saw him when he was set free so he tells
the kansas city star that i make sure that he never forgets that i'm around and this is interesting because it looks
like since 2009 the kansas city municipal court records show that police gave kyler at least
eight traffic citations for everything from failure to obey traffic signs parking in an improper
manner and running a red light i mean these are all things that they should issue citations for anyway
but it almost gives the appearance that the police always seem to be around or on the lookout for kyler
they're kind of letting them know we're watching you now that kansas city police had kyler
incarcerated for that car fire and again he finds himself being the suspect number one in a disappearance of
yet another young woman belton police began working with the kansas city police department to gather
evidence against kyler that could help them both put murder cases together against him well in 2010 he was accused
of trying to choke his 18 year old girlfriend to death and he was also accused of trying to
kill her three cats so what we have here captain is sadly cara's case goes cold and then all these
years later jessica goes missing we have months that go by and it looks like we're in danger of the same thing
happening here in this case well it's hard to get a conviction if you don't have
the body well the break that law enforcement needed it comes in the spring of 2017.
this when a mushroom hunter keith todd was exploring the woods near a quarry for
fungi on april third 3rd 2017 he was in the area of 233rd street and y highway this is in
cass county a heavily wooded area south of belton todd came upon what he immediately
recognized as a human skull he called police and reported what he found police roped off the area and
looked for any evidence that they could find and sure enough they found more human bones
they were scattered many had been gnawed on and some were never found police called the parents of both
jessica and cara to let them know that remains had been found this was standard operating procedure of
course they had no idea whether the remains belonged to either of the girls at that
time right remember search teams had found bodies twice before on january 21st and january 28th that were not
the girls that they were looking for but rhonda and jamie did not sleep much that
night this is what they let her later said to the media well if you're law enforcement
i i wonder if they're more hopeful for one remains or the other because with the car case
you have some evidence that points towards kyler but with the jessica case especially
with this supposed confession to jessup his half brother that if you find her remains
you're going to be able to build a stronger case against him because you have that confession in the in your back
pocket so while they're waiting on pins and needles then the next day a second set of
human remains believed to have been there much longer were found now at the time jamie and ronda were
sitting down for a joint tv interview the call came in from lieutenant brad swanson who told them i'm not going to
say 100 percent but just my gut is telling me we may have some resolution police then summoned the families of
both jessica and carr to a meeting at the police station jamie and ronda faced the media afterwards holding hands they
had to wait for confirmation of their worst fears but they said if the remains were the girls
they were glad they were together and indeed the kansas city medical examiner's office and state crime lab
identified the first set of remains as jessica runions after jessica was id'd ronda carr's mom acknowledged that it
could take months to determine whether the older bones found near jessica belong to her daughter she said quote in
my heart of hearts i believe it's kara here we are still waiting yet again end quote the second set of remains was
finally identified through dna as cara on august 16 2017 this with the help of the fbi crime lab
in quantico jamie said that while she had searched for months and months for her daughter
she never went as far as the 233rd street location where the remains were eventually found
[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] all right we're back you filthy animals cheers to you
cheers to everyone out there all right captain how about a little background information on kyler here
what we could find says he was born in 1988 reportedly he never knew his mother joanine until his
teen years and his father kenny as we have seen or heard was reportedly a meth addict
kyler was raised by his grandparents this is alfred and doris yust and he was troubled from a very early
age court documents filed by his attorney cite kyler being sexually abused as a child and suffering from
ptsd as a result and maintained that he also was diagnosed with bipolar disorder whatever
the cause of his delinquency court documents reflect that kyler has said he started abusing alcohol at a very young
age at the age of 11 smoking pot at age 12 and using cocaine at age 14 saying he even dabbled in heroin by age
16. people who knew him said that he was very charismatic as you pointed out earlier but people also said he could
turn angry within seconds and as a teen he started getting into legal trouble one early arrest was from
2010 thus for stealing from a tattoo parlor where he worked for which he served 10 days in jail and
soon after he nearly killed a woman this is going to kind of flesh out that story
that you were talking about a little bit earlier here the one from 2010 yeah this
was a girlfriend of kylers and she should be described in my opinion as very very lucky because she
was able to eventually get away from kyler still alive this was candace martin st claire
kyler assaulted her sometime in 2010 and at that time candace was 18 and six months pregnant with twins fathered by
kyler the two were living together for about six months but his behavior became increasingly aggressive and violent so
she was trying to leave him kyler came home drunk one night when she was packing her bags to leave and he
grabbed her around the throat with both hands pinning her to the bed she said that he looked deranged as he was
choking her until she would almost lose consciousness and then he punched her to make sure
that she would stay awake and aware she says that she finally passed out but when she woke up he was lying behind her
spooning her and whispering i love you and telling her that if she was good that would not happen again this guy's a
raging psychopath but this was not the entire story for one thing candace told police that at two different times kyler
killed some kittens right in front of her the couple had three kittens together and
for my own sake and everybody else's without going into any detail he killed them all
kyler was beating up candace in fact he bragged to her that he had killed a girlfriend in the
past and would do the same to her if she left him well the killing of the cats is
that's luca magnata [ __ ] you know puka not hotter nevertheless candace said that she felt sorry for kyler
as he threatened to kill himself often if she left and he also was the father of these unborn twins so
she kind of felt forced to stay with him at that time she didn't report the attack at the time
but after a while with the kittens and some other stuff his behavior became so frightening
that she left and didn't look back yeah good for her and after she left she noticed him
following her and him leaving threatening messages for her to find part of the problem is that these guys
are so manipulative and they can twist words and they can make you think that you're crazy but you have to have your
radar out for these creep bags and family members and friends have to have their radars out for these creep bags
and i wish people would just raise better men so women wouldn't have to put up with
this [ __ ] she too attempted to obtain an order of protection against kyler eventually she
had it dropped this once they got back together they were on and off for quite some time
it looks like before it was finally over candace said that she did not realize that kyler was a suspect in a girl's
disappearance until she googled him and found that there was a connection between him and kara kopetsky well and
she would have found that cara's claims against kyler are the same claims that she was making
because he he does this to every girl he dates then a judge ordered the arrest of kyler for failing to
appear in court for each of the tattoo parlor incident and the kitten killing situations he was arrested
and charged with animal cruelty so kyler pled guilty and got two years probation for
several charges right he eventually violated his probation by failing to attend a single
this is crazy he's ordered to attend 26 court mandated batterers intervention classes
he fails to attend a single one like not even gonna fake it for a little while right because he's a giant bag of
[ __ ] so at that time captain his probation was then revoked and he's sentenced to
180 days in jail he eventually serves 120 of that but look if you know for a fact
that kyler if you're law enforcement you know for a fact that this horrible human
well he's at this point he's not even acting in any way shape or form like a human
he kills several cats that you got to give him more than two years probation even with all this violence
and stuff going on he's also busy committing other types of crimes and several of these are serious
crimes at some point he got in big time legal trouble when he got caught receiving a shipment
from china of quote-unquote designer drugs this was an intercepted by customs agents in san francisco
this was a something i'm very i'm really not familiar with here thankfully this was a drug with the street name
meow meow wait so he's killing cats and he's taking drugs called meow meow well probably looking to sell them if
he's not oh he's taking them he's consuming them and looking to sell them because
eventually he's going to be charged with a felony of drug trafficking based off of this situation so he's sentenced to
45 months in federal prison and he only ends up serving about 27 months of this and he was permitted to live in a
halfway house for two months after that and then starting in april of 2016 he was ordered to home confinement in
his grandfather's apartment this in kansas city so this kind of brings us up to the point of jessica
going missing in september of 2016. but like you said when jessica goes missing we we know she was last
seen with kyler then we know through his half brother jessup that we burned her vehicle jessup is also
telling you hey kyler confessed to me saying that he strangled her and threw her out in the woods yeah but i also
find it weird we talk about this all the time i don't care if he's your half brother
or what he is if a scumbag tells you hey choke this girl and i threw her out in the woods
and i i need to help me burn her car he he better have something damn good on you
or you shouldn't be helping in the first place and i find it very strange that he
showed jessup shows up to help kyler jessup shows up with his girlfriend and she's
i and and i'd like to know a little bit more information on this i couldn't find
it but she had a pistol with her well we have to keep in mind that often people don't realize they're an accessory
to a crime until their accessory to a crime right you usually don't lead in with hey i murdered someone can you help
me a lot of times it's uh hey i need you to pick me up from here or i need you to
meet me here and then next thing you know your hands are dirty as well well see that's also why i
wondered and wasn't that clear is it possible that kyler says hey come pick me up here
jessup shows up and the car is already on fire and he had nothing to do with the car actually being on fire other
than he was there because kyler obviously got some pretty bad burn marks from the
fire jessup did it yeah so that is really all the information that's leading us up to
when jessica runions vanishes in 2016 which was on september 8th i do want to point out too that by the
time that kyler is arrested in 2016 for the burning vehicle he had three children at that point now kyler's first
court appearance after this arrest was eagerly attended by rhonda beckford carr's family had made sure to send
someone to every court appearance of kyler's throughout the years so remember how we pointed out that the police kind
of reminded kyler over the years hey we're watching you we don't like you we think you're a scumbag he received a lot
of traffic citations anytime he was charged with something that was big enough to hit the papers
over the years carr's parents would show up and sit in court yeah that's awesome
and kind of rally behind the idea of well we don't have any answers in our case in our daughter's case but at least
the guy that we're convinced did this is going to be locked up even if it's just for months
he's going to be locked up well a lot of these missing person cases where it takes them a long time to find
any remains especially when there's some kind of accomplice normally it takes a very long time for
the accomplice to come forward but jessup's calling law enforcement the night that this happens
yeah and that's where the storytelling portion of this case gets a little difficult to follow along in the
timeline because what we're going to see here captain is kyler will be arrested and charged for
burning jessica's vehicle but keep in mind when he's arrested and charged with that
there is no bodies at this time we've not located jessica we've not located cara
and it makes the story kind of not follow along a natural order to things so currently on our timeline we have
kyler arrested for burning jessica's vehicle now remember that jessup carter kyler's half brother
called the police and reported kyler for burning her car but also for killing jessica
this was in september 2016. in april of 2017 an article in the star reported that police had been seeking jessup
carter on an outstanding felony charges for a traffic stop that went down on the day jessica's car was burned
this was on the 10th of september deputies from the henry county sheriff's office pulled over jessop's 1998 dodge
durango for crossing the center line and drifting onto the grass on northeast missouri highway number two as well for
failing to have a working plate illumination light in the vehicle at the time were kyler used
and a woman named crystal taylor this is jessup's long time girlfriend the cops first the occupants of the
vehicle and found a knife on jessup and a gun on crystal jessup was charged in april of 2017 this
six months later with resisting a traffic stop as well as multiple misdemeanors such as driving without a
license being uninsured and failing to display plates but he was also wanted on a charge of failure to appear in a
domestic assault case this whole bloodline is full of [ __ ] jessup eventually turned himself into
authorities on april 28th it's not clear why the charges were were just now filed
in 2017 when the incident took place in 2016 it seems likely that the police wanted
to keep pressure on jessup to give them more information about kyler and what the three of them were doing
that day after jessica's car was found on fire so on may 4th 2017 this is at the 10th annual walk for
cara we have over 100 people here walking in observance of the 10th anniversary of
her disappearance you know they're holding signs honoring the young woman demonstrating support for the family
she had still not been identified at this time remember it wasn't until august 16th
that she was officially confirmed via dna but my hat goes off and you have to applaud this community how much they
rallied around both of these girls cara and jessica yes and at this at this annual walk for cara we have her
mother rhonda who tells the newspaper i am finally relieved to have confirmation
we've known for a long time that cara was gone and we felt when they found the other remains
that the other set was kara it's been a long 10 years and this is the start of hopefully moving forward
toward a prosecution kyler's trial for the vehicle arson was scheduled to commence on october 23 2017
but on the fifth of that month there was big news kyler was officially charged with murder
for the killings of jessica and cara the initial charges included two counts of abandonment of a corpse
but these charges were later dismissed the probable cause affidavit stated that at least four people told
investigators that kyler had confessed to choking cara to death he told some that he put her body in the
woods and others that she would never be found in october 6 2017 article said it's not
clear why yust was not charged in kopetsky's death earlier and a follow-up article says
might jessica be alive today had he been arrested in connection with kara's death based on those multiple
recountings to acquaintances about the killing these articles are pointing out that police had
witness statements months after carr went missing that kyler killed her right and so now everybody's really concerned
that hey we may have saved a life if we could have locked this guy up all those years earlier yeah and the
community is law enforcement can't make this mistake again right and so what we have here now
captain we have kyler's going to face charges in multiple counties but you have the counties that are kind of going
to band together and they're like you know what we can afford to drop the arson charges we can cancel that trial
let's all band together and focus instead on the much more serious murder case so kyler he's allowed to plead not
guilty to these charges this in october of 2017. now how now a brown cow how now brown
cow we need to go back just a minute here because after jessup the half brother was released for
turning himself in in april 2017. well he went on a bit of a bender his girlfriend and then wife crystal
taylor remember she was the one in the vehicle with kyler and jessup on that night said that after the episode where
jessup called the police on his brother that he relapsed into drugs and then very quickly went downhill he was
arrested for domestic violence and she took the kids and stayed in a shelter for a while
when jessup was arrested again in april of 2017 for failure to appear on those domestic violence charges and for
various charges from the incident where he was pulled over with kyler and crystal
he's asked by reporters you know will you comment on kyler use case at this point and he says that he could not
but that his family did not approve of what kyler had done and they empathized with the girls families
in july of the same year crystal turned on the news and saw jessup's uncle paul's house
okay so this is where jessup was staying she sees paul's house on the news because it's on fire
and jessup was arrested for arson this guy has some issues and for trying to stop firefighters from putting out the
fire so he's booked into county jail on september 24th jessop was found dead in his cell at 4 30 a.m of an apparent
suicide he hung himself police said apparently there was an fbi investigation into his death but there
was nothing to show that it was not a suicide however this is a weird little nugget here
jessup left behind a note that has been regularly referred to as encrypted and believe it or not that note has
magically disappeared well maybe i'm just a freak you know maybe i'm just freaked nasty with it but uh when i hear
suicide cryptid note i want to get my hands on that i want to know what he was trying to communicate and
and then it makes you wonder why did it go missing jessup was in the back pocket of law enforcement so
now with the suicide you got to toss that away it's going to make convicting kyler a lot more difficult
you're exactly right and that was the fear the shared fear at that time we have both jessica and carr's families
they're now very concerned that jessup is dead he was expected or at least they expected him to be the star witness in
the state's murder case against kyler jessup even once proclaimed that he wanted the families to feel better at
night that kyler was finally put away i mean those are his words so you would expect him to be the star witness
but clearly he must have been conflicted about testifying against kyler or you know he was spiraling out of control
it's really tough to say when we examine this situation here well he had that heavy drug addiction that he was back at
but another little interesting nugget here captain is that at this time yeah it was not public information
that jessup had ratted out kyler you did it right so i don't know if he was dreading
testifying against him or what have you but he commits suicide the prosecutors have
to forge ahead and they go on record saying jessup was a problematic witness anyway right
because he was in jail for arson and had two protective orders taken out against him so while he may have had
good information to offer up on the stand they weren't super in love with this guy because he was no saint himself
well again he calls right away after this after they set fire to jessica's vehicle
and then now he commits suicide it's almost like he was so remorseful or so so much hated that he was involved at
all that that's why he took his own life seems that way to me anyways it very well could be it also could be
i think it's probably a mountain of things or maybe he is more involved than he's even telling people
and he just couldn't live with himself it looks to me regardless of his involvement he was
going to go away to prison himself right and that might have not been something that he was willing to live
with yeah i agree with you kyler's attorneys they were doing their best at this time
to delay the trial and to dig up evidence exonerating kyler in december of 2019 they sought the
right to independently test the remains found by the mushroom hunter as well as hair recovered from an suv
searched by the fbi in 2013. this was the vehicle of someone who had been looked at as a potential other
suspect in cara's case the defense is trying to raise concerns about this alternative suspect well
they're trying to do the same thing that kyler was doing point in every direction
other than himself correct and that and that's not where the twists and turns stop with this case
he's going to start throwing more people under the bus once this hits trial well and the thing too is
this is kind of leaving the door open right once jessup kills himself now if you're the defender of kyler
you're looking at this through a different lens you're going okay well maybe regardless of what the police say
he very likely could have been their star witness now that guy's gone so the door is open to a potential
defense here and the first thing that they start attacking is look there was another suspect at one point in at least
cara's murder and in car's disappearance and what they're saying at this point is
we don't think that this guy was thoroughly investigated well it's too bad jessup took his own life because we
could have got him on the stand like and a few good men and said colonel jessup i want the truth
give me the truth the defense for kyler also filed motions challenging some of the witness statements in the case
because they allege that a kansas city police officer who was working the case was told to step back from it as this
officer was involved in a sexual relationship with one of the witnesses but then continued to investigate the
case even after being told not to so the defense questioned the integrity of the evidence and the integrity of the
investigation itself at one point the defense made a motion to have the judge removed
because they argued that he was biased against their client this motion was denied by another judge
and they allege that their confidential phone email and text conversations with kyler from jail were improperly recorded
and reviewed by the cass county sheriff's office yeah they're just trying every freaking trick in the book
and they're you know just pulling [ __ ] out of their ass throwing this [ __ ] on the wall and
seeing what sticks on august 23 2019 kyler's attorneys filed a motion to have him declared incompetent to stand trial
and seeking a psych evaluation a mental evaluation found that he was in fact competent to stand trial however
there was some back and forth as the defense attorneys objected to this finding and insisted on a second opinion
they then backed out of the second opinion but required kyler to be medicated for anxiety and depression
which who knows how much of it was smoke and mirrors by the defense team the trial eventually
commenced in april of 2021 but not before kyler's defense attorneys moved for a change of venue claiming
that he could not receive a fair trial in cass county eventually both sides agreed that the
trial would stay in cass county but jurors would be imported from saint charles county closer to st louis
meanwhile the poor families of our victims had to endure more waiting and a statement from john runyon said we want
justice for jessica and cara which in turn would be justice for our families and
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www.TrueCrimeGarage.com This week’s True Crime story involves several disappearances and murders. It’s a case that has spanned years. 17 Year old Kara Kopetsky of Belton, Missouri went missing in May of 2007. Less than one month later, recent High School graduate Kelsey Smith goes missing after what was to be a quick trip to her local Target store. In 2016, Jessica Runions is reported missing to Kansas City PD after attending a party with friends. Join us in the Garage for an adult beverage or three as Nic & Captain go through all of the details surrounding these cases.

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Brief Summary

Kyler Yust is linked to the disappearances of Jessica Runions and Kara Kopetsky, with shocking confessions and tragic discoveries unfolding in their cases.

Key points

Kyler's Arrest on Birthday. Kyler Yust was arrested on his 28th birthday, marking a significant turn in the investigation.
Community Support for Missing Persons. The community rallies around the families of Jessica and Kara, showing solidarity and support.
Kyler's Violent History. Kyler's past includes multiple violent incidents, raising concerns about his behavior.
Discovery of Human Remains. In April 2017, human remains were found, leading to a breakthrough in the cases of Jessica and Kara.
Kyler Yust's Troubling Past. Kyler Yust has a history of violence and troubling behavior, including assaults and animal cruelty.
Kyler's Legal Troubles. Kyler faces serious charges including drug trafficking and arson, leading to multiple arrests.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

You have to hold on to hope.

Rhonda Beckford on supporting families of missing persons.

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Tension

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