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your this week on True Crime garage we find ourselves once again looking at another horrific and tragic
case this one is unique but again aren't they all this week's True Crime Story starts off over 14 years ago and spans
all of the way into this year 2021 there are three missing persons in this story and after each disappearance
several suspects emerge some would get the answers they seek but feared relatively
quickly While others would have to wait suffering for years The Emptiness and terrible pain of not knowing exactly
what happened to their loved one then years later when the answers do come they turned out to be what they had feared
all along it all started back back on Friday May 4th 2007 when a 17-year-old girl decided to
skip a few classes and play a little hookie sometimes unfortunately we find that the things we
are running and hiding from are actually protecting us from what we truly should
be running and hiding from many times I have found that the feeling we get deep down in our gut that
feeling that tells us something here just is not right well those feelings are often
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Friday May 4th 2007 we have 17-year-old Cara kety had the entire weekend ahead of her and it seems maybe she could not
wait to get this Friday over with and move on to better things and while she arrived at school Safe and Sound on that
Friday she decided to cut out for a while car is a student at Belton High School appropriately located in Belton
Missouri friends would later say that car cut out early on that day not just before the
day was over but early as in 9:00 a.m. is later that day at 5:17 p.m. car's friend Amy Clark went to the belon
police department she was worried about her friend she wanted to file a missing person's report she felt that something
bad had happened to Cara because she and none of her other friends could reach her so the police contacted Car's mom
and stepfather this is Ronda and Jim Beckford Ronda said she had seen her daughter that morning but not since and
they too could not get a hold of Cara via Cara's cell phone and so an official missing person's report was filed that
night on May 4th around that same time police contacted car's boyfriend he said he too was concerned and he had last
seen her the day before on May 3rd car didn't turn up the next day or the next let's take a quick look at the spring of
2007 and see what is going on in car capet's World leading up to this mysterious
disappearance at this point she's been going out with the same guy for about 9 to 10 months this is 18-year-old Kyler
yust car's mother and stepdad were not too excited about Kyler but it also sounds like Cara was
not too excited about her mom and stepdad she was at an age where for Cara she felt she was old enough to do as she
pleased and she exercised those feelings whenever she felt like it hence the cutting out of school on May 4th that
normally backfires when the parents come forward and say hey we know you're dating this Kyler guy but we don't like
him that normally draws the girl more into wanting to date the boyfriend on April 24th 2007 we have something of
potential interest here this is a post from Cara on her Myspace that says quote so life hasn't been the greatest for me
lately over the last nine months of my life I've dedicated my life to Kyler I made no other time for any of my friends
nor my family over those nine months I forgot the person that I was I'm trying to find that person again end quote then
just 4 days later after that post this is on April 28th 2007 car went to the belon police department and reported
that her ex-boyfriend whom she had just broken up with had kidnapped her she's referring to Kyler she told them she was
leaving popey's Fried Chicken where she worked this after finishing her shift when her ex Kyler yust appeared and
demanded that she go with him when she refused he grabbed her and forced her into his vehicle and then drove around
for several hours Kyler finally letting her out of his truck in Grand View Missouri what a douche I don't know if
this is one of those situations Captain where they're breaking up and Kyler convinced himself if I could just get
some time with her maybe I could talk some sense into her gets her into his vehicle
forcefully and then drives her around pretty much against her will for hours I'm guessing we don't know what the
conversation was but I'm guessing it was him trying to convince her to not break
up with him some of these controlling boyfriends will they they do the I'm sorry game and when that doesn't work
they get angry when that doesn't work then they act like they're depressed and if that doesn't work it's almost like
they'll keep trying every angle just to get just to win the person back well this bizarre act scared Cara enough to
go to the police and she wanted a restraining order against him her report alleged that Kyler kidnapped and
restrained her and that he choked her and threatened to cut her throat while holding a knife her petition alleged
that Kyler was stalking her and subjecting her to emotional and physical abuse the protection order was granted
on April 30th and served to Kyler by the pass County authorities on May 1st a hearing on the matter was scheduled for
May 10th Cara's mother Ronda later said that Cara and Kyler's relationship was quote volatile and that he was
manipulative and abusive on the 4th of May May the 4th be with you this is the day in question car walked to school
that morning and she called her mom nearly as soon as she got there telling her that she forgot a textbook at home
her mother then dro arrives and drops off the textbook to the school office and Cara retrieves it there but then she
abruptly leaves the school at 9:119 a.m. and we have that exact time because surveillance footage from inside the
school shows car walking down the hallway at the school and then heard leaving the building right her house is
just a few blocks away but she does not walk home her family reported her missing that evening after she never
came home and like you said she has a restraining order against her ex-boyfriend but what law enforcement
come to find out is that she's been texting with her ex-boyfriend all day yeah and I think the first major red
flag for the family was when she failed to show up to her evening shift she was scheduled to work at 400 p.m. at popey's
that day and from my understanding car didn't always come home when she was told to but but it was not like her at
all to miss work and shortly after leaving school that day no one heard from her again so she also failed to
pick up her paycheck at popey's on May 9th so this is just a really weird situation where I don't think that her
walking out of the school at 9:19 a.m. that morning was something that was a major red flag I think as you're
pointing out here Captain it's all of those things afterward that are the Red Flags here well as a high school student
I mean we both were high school students I'd say a large percentage of high school students skip at some point
whether it's a couple classes I mean look she went into class she did a couple things and then said hey today's
day I'm not going I'm not going to be in class the whole day car's family was concerned and this is what's interesting
to me they're not just concerned about the whereabouts of their daughter their step daughter their concern is extremely
specific they say we were concerned immediately that Kyler had done something to her well yeah because just
a few days ago he basically held her against her will and they had to press charges
against him so that's where they say their suspicions were from the very beginning but police thought that since
she you know she's 17 years old and there was previous occasions when she chose not to come home and stayed away
briefly that this likely was a similar situation and that she would turn up when she was
ready to the other thing here too Captain that's a little bit weird about this story you know we said they're all
unique and they are but it's all these happen stance things that are odd in a lot of these cases this same day that we
have in question about her whereabouts law enforcement was stretched very thin because later that
day a devastating tornado hit nearby Greensburg that same night in fact the US tornado. comom has a fantastic piece
about these terrifying tornadoes that hit and the title best describes the devastation the online article is titled
May 4th 2007 the night that made maps of Greensburg Kansas have to be redrawn so
there was a lot of Devastation as far as this t goes it was not in the immediate
area but it was close enough that we have First Responders really helping and trying to
sort things out due to the tornado but car's parents emphasized that their daughter was not the kind to run away so
on the 6th Belton PD detectives sat down to talk to Kyler the family's actively telling belon PD this you have to talk
to her boyfriend this is a guy that we don't like and we suspect all these different things about
this man so they sit down and they speak with him he said he knew about the restraining order that car obtained
against him Kyler said that he had last seen car on the third but he did say he got a call from her phone on the fourth
now he tells investigators that car called him around 11:00 a.m. that he missed the call and tried to call her
back but she didn't answer that he said was the last contact he would have had with car but that was not
exactly true police got a warrant for car's phone and text records and they were examined by the FBI the records
showed that car was trying to skip school on the morning of May 4th and was texting some friends for a ride car
called Kyler at 9:14 a.m. from school she's still in school at this time the call lasted 61 seconds
she left the building the school building at 9:119 that morning and her phone received a call back from Kyler's
phone at 9:20 a.m. this call lasted a minute her phone sent a text at 9:46 a.m. and she made a call at 10:25 a.m.
but after that there was no record of the phone and no social media post from car detectives noted that car and Kyler
were in constant communication and until the morning of May 4th but after that they never spoke again or at least never
used her phone to speak again and then her phone is never used again after that call that she made at 10:25 a.m. yeah to
me it makes somebody look so guilty if you're in constant contact with this individual they go missing and you don't
even reach out to him to see if they're okay seems like she took the threats and
him kidnapping her basically serious but I hate the fact that she is having any contact with this dirt bag yeah I I
don't I want to make sure we're painting the right picture here and we're not sating that it doesn't look to me like
she's going out of her way to communicate with Kyler it looks more like he's trying to get in touch with
her and speak with her now Kyler's story didn't change no matter how many times the police spoke with him but he did
offer up some new information he said said car was running around with a bunch of different guys on the 7th Belton
Detective Mike Clark sat down with Kyler for an informal interview where Kyler told him that he and car had dated for 9
months recently broke up and he was very upset about this Kyler admitted to the kidnapping episode saying that on April
28th he and car were arguing because she was dating other guys so he thought he'd
drive her around and talk some sense into her but that was it in the next police interview Kyler admitted that he
and car argued on May 3rd he said that they had argued on the phone because car had a male friend coming into town for
the weekend and was planning on hanging out with this guy and of course Kyler did not want her to spend the weekend
partying with this other guy well too bad all right Captain so now we take the questioning on to the next guy this is
Joel Harmon so Kyler's able to tell police who car was planning on hanging out with by name right so they take this
information and now we're going to speak with this Joel Harmon person see if he knows where she could be or when he last
saw or spoke with her so Joel confirmed to police that indeed he was supposed to
visit with Cara that weekend but he repeatedly called her on May 6th and was not able to get her on the phone he
found out that she was missing when he called her home phone on May 7th and spoke with one of her family members and
police searched some more they noted that car's bank account had not been touched since the last time she was seen
right so we have no activity on her bank account and we have her not picking up her check at work right these are items
that you're going to look at from a police standpoint and say you know what okay if there were some problems at home
and again I want to be clear here it doesn't seem to me like there were really any problems at home it's typical
teenager stuff she's not getting along with Mom and stepdad and it seems to me a lot of it stemming from her
relationship with this guy they're convinced is not good for her douche and I think the episode of him forcefully
grabbing her and pulling her into his vehicle and driving her around for a few hours right well that seems to seems to
back up their suspicions about this guy well they're not getting along because the parent parents are actually giving a
[ __ ] and they're actually trying to be involved in her life and they're actually trying to be parents and say
look you you're still a minor you're still under our roof you're dating this guy he's no good for you you know he's
no good for you like I said they're arguing because the parents actually give a [ __ ] and so from a police
standpoint you're going to look at a couple of these things and say all right well even if there was some stuff that
we may not be fully aware of inside the home or between mom and daughter or stepdad and
daughter her not going to work okay well she already skipped out on school but not picking up a paycheck and no
activity on her phone or bank account does not really point you in the direction of well she took off and she's
not coming home right this tells us something else may be going on here if I'm law enforcement I want to know
why she left school in the first place yeah that's that's a good question here now police did go and search Kyler's
apartment relatively early in this investigation but they came up empty-handed in finding any evidence of
any type of Foul Play there was really nothing there that they gained from that search and as Belton PD Lieutenant Brad
Swanson said we don't have anyone to say they saw them meaning Kyler and Cara together on or after the day that she
was last seen so nobody that tells them hey I saw the two of them together later
that day after she left school or anytime after that day and Kyler says that he had an alibi for the day in
question saying that he went to visit a relative at a nursing home with his grandfather we need to point out here
though captain that that was not until about 1 p.m. that afternoon so he may say he has an alibi for that time but we
know Cara left school at 9:119 a.m. his Alibi does not start until 100 p.m. that
afternoon his morning is largely unaccounted for and when's the last time that he talks to car on the phone well
remember his words were that he called her back that he missed a call from her called her back never spoke with her
right but what we have is the the search warrant on her phone records tell us differently that his phone called her
phone at 9:20 a.m. and this call lasted for 1 minute for 60 seconds so we don't even know if she's technically like
skipping class right at that moment or if she's leaving the school to maybe make this phone call to talk to her
ex-boyfriend and maybe he says something that lures her out uh to to at least talk to him you know it could be
something as I I miss you I'm going crazy if you don't talk with me if you don't visit me uh I'm going to commit
suicide or something like that possibly I actually don't think that her leaving school had anything to do with him
because we have friends who stated later that she was trying to get a ride from us yeah yeah and she was texting other
people about and after it's after this that she doesn't get a ride that she leaves now now again she lives very
close to the school so she could have just intended on walking home after leaving the school but if this douche
bger was aware that she was trying to leave school he could go and drive up and again he could kidnap her like he
did the other day yeah and we have her statement that she gives when she requests the restraining order that he
is stalking her so this could be a situation Captain where she he's actively following her around those were
were her words we don't know if it's true or not but he could have actively been following her around and seen her
leave that day or caught wind somehow that she was attempting to leave that day we know that he has actively told
police look she was going to go hang out with this other dude this weekend and I
wasn't happy about that so we got kind of a lot going on leading up to this point of her walking out of school at
919 on that Friday now several weeks after car disappeared Kyler did an interview with the Kansas City Star so
he's spoke with police multiple times they've interviewed him by this point they've interviewed him multiple times
they've searched his apartment by this point but this is also several weeks after she disappeared so things are
starting to get cold at this point leads are starting to dry up this is when he talks to the Kansas City Star he said
that car was a fun girl who wanted to live life to the fullest according to Kyler car
had talked about running away to Mexico saying quote lately I've been kind of depressed about the whole thing
I have no idea where she is end quote per kshb.com belon police said that Kyler passed a lie detector test and had
an alibi for the time of car's disappearance but the community was not happy with letting Kyler Go free in late
June 20 7 some citizens of belon circulated a petition demanding that the state step in and take the case away
from belon police department in general it was felt that they had treated her case dismissively assuming that she was
a runaway and had not investigated as thoroughly as the family wanted the family aided by volunteers and even
former law enforcement took it upon themselves to search for Cara in one crazy circumstance a secret team
comprising of private investigators criminal psychologists and others conducted secret investigations tracking
down rumors and even conducting a search of a private home with a civilian cadaver dog this was a house that had
been rumored in online chat rooms to be quote the murder house where Cara was killed sure enough in the
home the dog hit on something in the basement and kudos to kshb.com for doing gangbusters work on
the story including an entire podcast on the case one portion spoke about their search of the quote murder house that
says our cameras followed group members inside an abandoned building that looked
like the set of a horror film The walls are sprayed with satanic messages and references to
Cara quote this here says Cara is gone said a group member who like all members says they fear reprisal from police or
suspects in the case and do not want to be identified it says I did it one hallway
has murder makes me happy spray painted sideways next to references of death and
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2023 all right well the search for Cara capet kety has been excruciating for her
family friends and for law enforcement and especially difficult because there seems to be so few credible
Clues K kety was last seen the morning of May 4th 2007 by the security camera at Belton High School her mom says she
was excited about getting her senior picture taken and was looking forward to her final year of school but something
mysterious happened to Cara that may morning she left school either on foot or in a car with someone else her last
cell phone call was made at 10:30 a.m. when she didn't show up for her after school job her parents became worried
and reported her missing on May 17th Carl was reportedly seen with a young man at a gas station in Lewisburg but
that has never been confirmed despite many searches a reward fund and even National publicity Cara has never been
found well tomorrow is Cara ketk's 21st birthday the reward for information on where she is now stands at
$80,000 please call the tips hotline at 816 474 tips if you have any information
all right we are back cheers everybody cheers to UK everybody have a great week so a couple red flags one
controlling boyfriend don't like that that's douchy we have this situation again it could have just been a heated
situation got out of control maybe it's just a onetime thing but she took it serious enough where she says hey I need
to get a restraining order against this guy he's stalking me but the big red flags for me when this uh [ __ ] princess
Dingle donkey is pointing Every Which Way oh well she was supposed to go hang out with this other guy oh she was
seeing a bunch of other guys so go look at him go look at this other guy oh and by the way she also talked about running
away so go check that out over there always constantly pointing the finger in other directions so you don't look at
him as a suspect it's like a suspicion that you find in the John Benet Ramsey case where you have some of the police
department looking at the family as being responsible and the family is handing them a list of 70 to 80 suspects
that they think right could have kidnapped or killed their daughter and so you're right it's like are they
giving us a Fool's errand here to to run around then and and kind of a weird bit
of this story and you don't see this in most cases is there's like public backlash where the community saying we
don't think that our police department has done enough and the police department in return is saying
look we questioned the boyfriend he admitted to Breaking the Law right I mean he essentially admits
that yes every that she complained about when she got that restraining order I did
that then according to the police he passes a lie detector test they search his apartment they don't find any
evidence of Foul Play there so I I feel like the police department's kind of saying in return here I know that you've
heard all these rumors Community I know the public has seen all these rumors in online chat
rooms we are conducting an investigation here just our major lead which would be
the boyfriend or ex-boyfriend whatever title you want to give Kyler at that point our major lead seems to be going
nowhere we have concerns that he has an alibi for a large portion of that day we
have concerns that he's passed a lie detector test and so on and so on so he's he's kind of checking off boxes
that say that he should not be a suspect well look this is a suburb of Kansas City right mhm 25,00 th people roughly
but this is a very tight community so when you grow up in an area like this you're normally pretty good at one
talking to Authority and also talking to parents and one of the things about Kyler a lot of people say that he was a
Charming kid a believable kid so I think that played against law enforcement but
I think the community started speaking up when they got win that this Alibi wasn't 100% checked
out properly what do you mean checked out properly well there was people at the nursing home that that law
enforcement never ended up interviewing and they couldn't find yeah I mean I mean that might be
hearsay but that that's that's what one it says in the documentary but that's what some of the rumors around town were
no I I know that I'm not disagreeing with that I'm saying that I don't think to me it doesn't matter about The Alibi
and I think and that's why I went out of my way to point out earlier that hey police are saying we have concerns that
he does have an alibi for a large portion of that day but I'm pointing out that let's say that The Alibi is true
even if it is true which it does seem to to carry some weight right but even if it is true it it's right like if if
there's a a bank that's robbed at 10:00 this morning it doesn't matter if I can tell you where I was at 300 p.m. today
right his his Alibi starts at 1 p.m. that afternoon she the last time we have any evidence that she's alive and
well and is not abducted or anything like that has happened to her is 9:119 that morning so we have hours that have
passed before his Alibi even starts yeah basically a 3 and 1 half hour window right right so police of course they are
aware that the Public's not super happy with their investigation here as you pointed out Captain Titan it Community
they're probably I don't think that that their suspicion so much is coming from this Alibi portion I feel like a lot of
it's coming from hey it's 25,000 people we know her family her family's quite loud about her being missing and I think
it's really just people kind of pulling together here and questioning the authority on on who's supposed to be
leading this investigation yeah but good for them I mean I'm not saying that you're talking bad but just the way it
came off was like the family being loud you need to be loud if the family doesn't show that they care the
community is not going to care exactly in in fact we covered a case last week where I'm convinced that the reason why
the body is still unidentified is because nobody bothered to report the individual missing to begin with so if
if the family's not going to speak up for the victim yeah then then likely nobody is going to now in response the
Belton Police this is in response to the house being searched and spray paint on
the walls and whatnot in response to this the belon police did search that same house where the caver dog hit on
something their official report is that they found nothing at this house meanwhile the police threatened to
arrest members of this secret team when news of its activities came out the police chief uh his last name is person
police chief person said in a written statement I can say that the belon police department and FBI have searched
many locations and properties some with the assistance of dogs some sites have required the use of specialized
personnel and Equipment including excavation divers canine equestrian and information Technologies either way
police and civilian groups were having simply no luck locating car no matter what side of the fence you were on
they're not finding her they're not even finding additional leads to lead them further along the trail and so her
family was left to wait wonder and work to keep her case alive they lovingly remember and describe Cara as someone
who loved animals and butterflies loved to shop and was loyal to friends she got
in over her head with a boy named Kyler and feared she couldn't get out now while the Greensburg EF5 tornado that
destroyed 95% of the Greensburg City and it killed over 10 people This Tornado this this thing we we should kind of
break this situation down a little more as distracting as it likely was in the moment because the reports I've seen
Captain was this was a series of tornadoes that hit over the course of 56 hours and so this was a lot of
Devastation yeah um hitting the state of Missouri hard in just about 12 hours after car was last scene at school this
certainly did not help to Kickstart the missing person's investigation there were other factors that stalled the
investigation along the way as well for one while Kyler was their best suspect he was not law enforcement's only
suspect in that case and cap that off with one month later and just about 20 M away another girl just out of high
school and only 18 years old vanished from a Target store parking lot well like you always say when a we have a
teen girl going missing from school you kind of have have to do the old scumbag pervert Roundup and so not much time
passes and we have a very similar situation and if I'm a law enforcement maybe I'm jumping to some conclusions
because car didn't have any there's no sign of her after that day right so I'm kind of expecting the worst and so
there's a possibility that there's a serial killer out there yeah there were some other things that that we don't
need to get into because there's a lot of information in this story here that I want to make sure that we cover all of
our bases but there was a weird bit in Cara's disappearance where she had a a lookalike somebody that looked a lot
like her about the same age that lived in another town nearby so those sightings of this other person which
they were all later confirmed to be of this other person really kind of distracted some of the investigation as
well the incident that you're talking about where we have a situation where we have a similar we have a similar
victimology really is a big distraction to this case as well so this takes us to June 2nd
2007 this is less than one month after Cara kety went missing this is a Saturday night
remember car went missing on a Friday morning here we have Kelsey Smith she's 18 years old and a recent graduate of
Shaunie Mission West High School just before 7 p.m. she arrives alone at her local Target store she is going with the
intention of purchasing a gift for a close friend so she Parks her car walks to the store's entrance and goes inside
unfortunately she is unaware that there is a monster on the prow in the area that night and this subhuman likely
chose this area because it's a Saturday evening and this target is right next to
a mall so this will be a busy area with lots of potential prey so Kelsey enters the target she does her shopping
purchases her selected items and then security cameras show Kelsey leaving the Target store at 7:07 p.m. now Kelsey
makes a call while still inside the store sadly she does not come home that night and based off of everything her
family her movements her lifestyle and personality there is zero zero concern that she took off somewhere this is a
situation where as soon as the minutes start to turn into hours and she is not back that night her parents are very
aware that something terrible has happened to their daughter so now we have a situation and her family goes out
looking for her about four or so hours later Kelsey's vehicle is located by her family they find the car abandoned but
it's not at the Target parking lot where they know her to have been earlier that
night no they find her car in a parking lot Loc located just outside of the mall
across the street from the Target now even more troubling all of her belongings are found inside of the
vehicle the family notifies the police and the police determine that Kelsey was most likely abducted so local PD starts
their investigation immediately they take a look at the surveillance footage from both inside the Target store and
the Target parking lot and they can see her being forced into her car at approximately 710 p.m. they go to the
mall and see on the mall camera footage someone pulls up Parks Kelsey's vehicle leaving it
abandoned in the parking lot at 9:17 p.m. in a very smart move they decide to see if they can figure out Kelsey's
movements by checking cell tower records as per the report Kelsey's cell phone last pinged in Grand View
Missouri this is the night that she went missing very sadly Just 4 days after Kelsey went out alone to purchase the
gift for a friend local law enforcement along with Agents from the FBI they were
able to locate her remains in the afternoon of June 6th 2007 her body was found near Long View Lake in the woods
about 20 mi away from the Target store where she was last seen alive Kelsey after being abducted and her abductor
and killer using Kelsey's car in the commission of committing several felonies was strangled with a belt and
left in the woods now we in a very short order go from looking for this young woman to now looking for her attacker
and detectives are armed with some very good lead information here because God bless it captain
this is a story where the security cameras were rolling they were actually working and the people in charge had the
cameras recording well that's a shock so from the surveillance footage investigators identified an older model
Chevy pickup truck pulling into the Target parking lot right after Kelsey and Smith pulled in then they see the
perpetrator get out of his truck and walk into the target just behind Kelsey this man is described as a white male
mid 20s wearing a white T-shirt and dark possibly black shorts the man at no time
speaks to Kelsey but he seems to have been following her into the store and then kind of following her around the
store yeah stalking her and she's probably not even taking notice he does not purchase anything instead while
Kelsey is making her purchase he goes out to the parking lot where he seemingly is preparing a blitz style
attack because the closed circuit TV cameras got video of this same man now with a
gun in hand rushing Kelsey and then forcing her into her car we were just talking last week Captain about the
power of crowd sourcing as we are still hoping that someone can identify the man
with no hands the Kentucky Cold Case covered right here in the garage last week so detectives again making all of
the Right Moves they release Stills and clips shown this man and give a description of him to the public they
give a description of his apparel and the truck that he was driving well it doesn't take long because the same day
that they locate the victim's body we have people phoning in hey we know this guy he's our neighbor it's the putting
two and two together that made the tipsters so convinced that the perpetrator Seen On TV was their
neighbor well it's one thing to have video footage or a clip of a person or even just a photo like we do in the deli
murders but if we could take the deli if we could take Bridge guys photo and connect that guy to a vehicle then we'd
have more people coming out of the works going I know a guy that looks like that
and has that vehicle exactly and that's what they were able to do here very interesting though because when he
abducts her he uses her vehicle leaving his vehicle behind to have more and more
customers see that vehicle in that parking lot that night so in this case right here we have a guy that looks like
our neighbor this from the tipster and the vehicle is the same and by the ways the great thing about information in
this case it's not that common of a vehicle right I believe it was a Chevy truck manufactured sometime in the' 70s
and this this was 2007 on the old True Crime garage timeline right so it sticks out like a sore thumb that's right this
mystery subhuman turned out to be 25-year-old Edwin Roy Hall he was taken into custody and no surprise charged
with premeditated first-degree murder and aggravated kidnapping of course he denied it but police had him on camera
they found his fingerprints inside Kelsey's vehicle and so on and so on eventually this douche canoe caves in
and cuts a deal to spare his ass spicy and he volunteers for life in prison and I don't think this guy is ever getting
out and certainly hope not because he wasn't terribly old when he went in and if this dude gets out and he's still
physically able this monster will do something like this again now what was difficult for Cara's
case in relationship to this case again it's just one month later about 20 miles away victimology very
similar it was quickly determined that in Kelsey's case the Target store case that this was a totally random
attack Edwin simply drove around looking for a young woman to abduct so of course everyone now has to
Wonder Could Edwin be responsible for car's disappearance right could he have just been driving around on it on an
earlier day look look for another victim and yeah and where would you go if you're driving around looking for a
victim right outside the school of course he says no but we will just have to wait and see if detectives can find
any connection between these two cases and like we said this is a very small suburb of Kansas City we have car going
missing in 2007 and another town not so far away we have Kelsey Smith going missing and her
murder but then we have another tragedy happening in 2016 yeah as we said earlier in this
case Captain this is a story and a true crime case that spans a great deal of length of time so we have our case
starts in 2007 there's still movement on these cases up to this year so we don't
want to bore anyone with a lot of minutia here so we'll just fast forward to September of
2016 into the city of Raymore this is a suburb of Kansas City and not far from the other two locations that we have
discussed yeah on Friday September 9th 2016 Jamie runions calls the Kansas City Police Department reporting her daughter
Jessica as missing now in the Colonel's recommended fashion that being report your loved one
missing everywhere and as many times as they will allow you to M runions very astutely goes to the Kansas City Police
Department in person the following day September 10th and again reports her 21-year-old daughter Jessica runions as
missing so she reports her the night before and then again the following day but this time in person mother Jamie
says her last contact with Jessica was a brief text conversation on Wednesday the
7th this one Jessica text her sweet dreams and jimie sent back a selfie with Jessica's little sister to which Jessica
responds sending back a picture of her cat so the concern started when Jessica failed to show up for a doctor's
appointment on the 9th this was a critical doctor's appointment after an epcom Jessica needed the doctor's
clearance to go back to work so she would not have missed this appointment her mother jimie
was meeting her there and waited for her but she never showed and Jessica wasn't
answering her phone jimie started calling everyone that she could think of trying to locate her daughter now we
will go through this timeline in chronological order but of course some of this stuff was not figured out until
after Jessica was reported missing and police began looking for her so Jessica was living with her one-time boyfriend
but it sounds like they were on again and off again they shared an apartment but more than one source says that at
the time of Jessica's disappearance they were sleeping in different rooms so we have the text conversation between
mother and daughter on that Wednesday night yeah that night Jessica goes to sleep at her apartment and again she and
her ex-boyfriend Jackson share this apartment then later we learn that Jessica did respond to a post on
Facebook on Thursday around 2:00 p.m. after that her family received no communication from her on the last night
that Jessica was seen Thursday September 8th she told her boyfriend or ex-boyfriend Jackson that she was going
to a friend's house for drinks and to hang out he says that they spoke and agreed to try to work on their
relationship around 10 p.m. though Jessica stopped responding to Jackson's text he says at the time he assumed that
her phone had died then Jackson he says he was very concerned when he woke up the next morning on the 9th and Jessica
was not home yet Captain do you want a little background on Jackson and Jessica's relationship or should we just
keep moving forward yeah definitely I want to know about him I mean he's a possible suspect Jessica met her
boyfriend/ exboyfriend Jackson when they both were working at the Foxwood retirement home Jackson went to Belton
High School and they knew a lot of the same people by September of 2016 when Jessica goes missing Jackson
and Jessica had been together for three years and were living together but as said the relationship was Rocky and they
were sleeping in separate rooms I'm not clear exactly what here Captain but it's
been reported that Jackson had some health issues as well then on Friday Jessica misses that doctor's
appointment that we discussed her mother speaks with Jackson at this time Mom calls and reports
Jessica missing and then the next day Jessica's mother jimie and Jessica's ex-boyfriend Jackson they go together to
the police department and file a missing person's report in person now Jackson is
is going to be a key factor in this case here because he lives with Jessica so he's going to be able to provide police
with some leads right from Jump Street and this is what he tells the police Jessica went to a friend's house for
drinks on that Thursday when she was not home the next morning when Jackson woke
up he called the person who hosted the party this person tells Jackson that Jessica was at the party and she arrived
with Jackson's friend his name Kyler use scumbag Jessica and Kyler knew each other from high school the party host
said the people there were surprised when Jessica and Kyler arrived together several people later told police that
Kyler was visibly heavily intoxicated that night drinking Gray Goose and wine he's double fisted most of the evening
even more importantly they say that he was acting possessive about Jessica and aggressive
toward the other party goers several witnesses told police that Jessica and Kyler were arguing loudly and Jessica
wanted to leave but Kyler didn't want her to go back to Jackson the host asked Kyler to leave red flag Jessica and
Kyler left the party at 11:42 p.m. in Jessica's car we know almost to the minute when the two left and you'll see
why Jessica's car was a black 2012 Chevy Equinox with Missouri plates Kyler remember we have everybody
saying this dude's hammered he insists on driving but when they go to leave he clipped someone's car in the driveway so
Jessica took the wheel and they drove off now the host of the party took a picture of this car incident which they
later showed to police so the photo was timestamped 11:42 p.m. that's how we have almost the exact time of when they
left that so he hit the car they told people at the party obviously they take a picture and then they let them drive
off correct friends at the party told Jessica to text when she got home safely but she never did text shouldn't let
your friend get in a vehicle with somebody that one you is so intoxicated that you ask to leave the party and then
he hits a vehicle and you still let her leave with this intoxicated guy no one saw Jessica after
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This week’s True Crime story involves several disappearances and murders. It’s a case that has spanned years. 17 Year old Kara Kopetsky of Belton, Missouri went missing in May of 2007. Less than one month later, recent High School graduate Kelsey Smith goes missing after what was to be a quick trip to her local Target store. In 2016, Jessica Runions is reported missing to Kansas City PD after attending a party with friends. Join us in the Garage for an adult beverage or three as Nic & Captain go through all of the details surrounding these cases.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the disappearance of Cara Kete, her abusive ex-boyfriend Kyler Yust, and the ongoing search for answers.

Key points

The Disappearance of Cara Kety. A tragic case of a missing 17-year-old girl, Cara Kety, begins with her skipping school.
Kyler's Manipulative Behavior. Cara's ex-boyfriend Kyler's controlling actions raise red flags before her disappearance.
The Family's Concerns. Cara's family immediately suspects her ex-boyfriend Kyler after she goes missing.
Unanswered Questions. The investigation reveals troubling signs about Cara's last known actions and communications.
Kyler's Alibi. Kyler claims to have an alibi, but it raises more questions than answers.
Community Outcry Over Police Handling. Citizens demand state intervention in Cara's case, feeling the local police are dismissive.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

Sometimes the things we run from are what we should be running to.

Reflecting on instinctual self-preservation.

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Tension

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