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[Music] % [Music] welcome to the garage party wherever you are and whatever you may be doing thank
you for listening and thank you for joining the party I'm your host Nick and with me as always co-hosting and Master
of Ceremonies ladies and gentlemen the captain it is good to be seen and good to see you thanks for listening and
thanks thanks for telling a friend what a beautiful tuxedo you have there Captain this week we will be rolling out
the red carpet as we celebrate you the listeners us the host and your favorite garage Studio this week marks a very
impressive podcast Milestone of 500 that's a five followed by two zeros episodes and to celebrate this most
impressive of milestones we will count down our 10 greatest True Crime garage trailers of all time that's right it's a
feature of our show that most True Crime shows don't have each week the captain composes some great music and pulls a
clip or two or maybe the colonel does a little write up for that week's case each case that we have covered here in
the garage is unique and each week the trailer that we put together is just as unique as the case that we are covering
so please join us won't you as we celebrate you the listeners for making this possible back when we started in
2015 we didn't think anybody would listen to two beer drinking dorks recording in a garage but now it's
almost 6 years later and we have one of the best brightest and most beautiful audience in all of True Crime podcasting
and so this week we celebrate you heck many of you have been with us since 2015 or
2016 and we truly hope that you have enjoyed the ride as much as we have this week to celebrate in a proper fashion we
are drinking Angels Envy Kentucky straight handcrafted bourbon call me oldfashioned Captain but I believe real
bourbon comes from Kentucky garage grade of course five out of five bottle caps so to all of you out there in listener
land that's right I'm talking to you friends colleagues True Crime garage Army and citizens of Parts Unknown
wherever you are whatever you are doing raise a cup Your Glass a tall can be it Bourbon Coffee wine beer or soda cuz
this one is for you let's talk some true crime [Music] this is true crime garage and this is the case of Son of
[Music] Sam I Am I am am monst monst [Music] I am deeply hurt by you calling me a
woman hater I am not but I am a monster I am the Son of Sam I'm a little brat when father Sam gets drunk he gets
mean he beats his family sometimes he ties me up to the back of the house other times he locks
me in the garage Sam loves to drink blood go out and kill commands father Sam behind our house some rest mostly
young raped and slaughtered their blood drained just bones now Papa Sam keeps me locked in the
Attic too I can't get out but I look out the Attic Window and I watch the world go
by I feel like an outsider I'm on a different wavelength than everybody else programmed to
kill however to stop me you must kill me attention all police shoot me first shoot the killer
else keep out of my way or you will die Papa Sam is old now he needs some blood to preserve his youth he's had too
many heart attacks too many heart attacks it hurts sunny boy I miss my pretty princess most of
all she's resting in our lady's house but I'll see her soon I am the monster be abub the chubby
boohemoth I love to hunt prowling the streets looking for fair game tasty meat the women of Queens are the
prettiest of all I must be the water they drink I live for the hunt my life blood for
Papa Mr burelli sir I don't want to kill anymore no sir no more but I must honor thy
father I want to make love to the world I love people I don't belong on Earth return me to the
yahoos to the people of Queens I love you and I want to wish you all a Happy Easter may God bless you in this life
and in the next and for now I say goodbye and good night police let me haunt you with these
words I'll be back I'll be back to be interpreted as bang bang bang yours and murder Mr monster I am I
am monster [Music] monster can't believe that one is only number 10 cuz when you say the chubby boo
chubby boohemoth the chubby boohemoth hey I just said it the David burkowitz wrote it yeah but you won the the Emmy
for that the uh funny thing here that's episode 21 of True Crime garage way back
in the day and that one look I promise it's not going to be this scary the entire top 10
Countdown I mean between the the your friend over here that is weird me out that you invited into the garage to to
count him down 10 10 that guy Mortal Kombat he refuses to tell me his name he's just staring at me weird between
him he's a chubby Bohemian right between him and the uh the Son of Sam trailer there I'm uh I'm on edge man I'm on edge
this is supposed to be a party I'm supposed to be having a good time bang bang bang that was a great trailer and
of course that was the uh Son of Sam who wrote that trailer essentially themselves Captain knows how much I love
anytime we have a case that involves writings from the killer or letters sent to newspapers or taunts sent to police
or even TV news outlets it's weird to be a fan of something like that but it's one
of those situations where I find it incredibly intriguing I find it very interesting that someone would take it
to that level and have to fill some kind kind of weird need of communicating with
others while they're supposed to be hiding from police and instead it's a it's a taunt it's it's to mock the
investigation and mock the public who is afraid at the time but it dramatically him he loves Queens dramatically
increases the risk that the offender is taking along the way as well yeah and I believe that was our
first dramatic reading during a trailer and it was I thought it was effective but it was
also it felt a little silly also at the time because of the words like chubby boohemoth but let's get into number
[Music] nine the press and the media make you think that a black man arming himself is
illegal or criminal or that he wants to arm himself to rob a liquor store or some you know what I'm saying that is
for me to defend myself and it should always be it's just about surviving you know and we have to be honest about the
tools that we use to survive and why is a black life um any any more recoupable than a white life
you know what I'm saying we know that they don't put the same Security in the ghetto that they do in the whites and in
the white neighborhood so therefore for me to be out here saying don't you know put your guns down and no violence
that's hypocritical and if I didn't talk about the violence everybody would act like the violence wasn't there we as
rappers bought that violence we we bought the violence that we seen on the street put in our records put in our
records for years and after 3 four years people finally starting to see it because of all the statistics that's
going on in the streets if we stop talking about it then they wouldn't take statistics and when they stop taking
statistics then we' be killing each other in the street and these white people wouldn't care no more only people
they only reason they care is cuz you know there's been some Strays and we done slipped over in the white
neighborhoods and there kids in Iowa that want to be like us you know what I'm saying there kids in in Indiana
that's trying to be like us cuz they can relate too you know what I'm saying you
even admit it I don't live in that neighborhood anymore there's no real reason for you to carry a 9 mm don't
believe that why in the in two years I've had a gun pulled on me by my limo driver by police by everybody you know
what I'm saying and I better be I better be you know what I'm saying I've been attacked you ain't read the papers about
these skin heads trying to blow up black churches why they see me as the enemy just like y'all do you know what I'm
saying they can come to my house and sit outside my house just like anybody else
can a skin headit and once my life is gone it's gone can't nobody give it back to me not the judge not the president
not the governor not Calvin buts not Jesse Jackson they can't do nothing but come to my funeral and talk pretty about
how black people suffer and once my life is gone it's [Music] gone and obviously that's the late great
tupon Shakur those are episodes 112 and 113 if people want to keep track keep score at
home and go back and check out some of the old episodes maybe we are presenting trailers to you that you are hearing for
the first time today yeah it's a nice feeling when somebody messages you and they say for example let's take the
Tupac Shakur case and they say oh I just watched this documentary I would love to
hear you guys cover Tupac's case and you go well go to 112 113 and he can check it out and they get so excited cuz they
don't have to wait they don't have to go oh well maybe they'll put it on the list
maybe they'll do it in a couple months want oh it's already done awesome and also I think it's just a nice feeling I
think when we started doing the podcast it was just to see if we could do it I don't even remember if we ever talked
about putting it out like before we we tried before we sat down flipped on microphones yeah it was just simply hey
would you like to try a podcast would you like to try to do one not let's put it out for the world to hear and then
once we did a couple we're like well let's just put it out and see what happens and 500 episodes later the
people that we meet at crime con that tell me they're like you know I've been with you guys since the beginning I give
them an extra big thank you because I'm like you are very understanding and patient person we
used to get up in the middle of recording and go get a beer and keep talking on Mike so it it would sound
like this hey I'm going to go to the fridge and I'm coming back and now I'm back and here we am and I think you
cleared it up and said it better than I did I said you know when we started this
we didn't think anybody would listen to two guys in a garage uh but you're right we're
recording it not even with the idea of putting it out or releasing it to the world at the time it was just something
to set up and see if we could do and if if it's painful to listen to one or two of those first early episodes It's
because we're in pain we're sitting in a garage that was like 110 gripping yeah the beers were necessary
just to try to keep us uh cooled down to the point that we wouldn't expire during
the the actual episode itself and while we're doing this here Captain I want to make sure we give out some uh beer fun
shout outs along the way so raise of the glass we're going to be raising the glass many times this week as we
celebrate but a cheers to lace in Austin Texas and a cheers to Jennifer and Avon
Lake Ohio a lot of cool a lot of beautiful people on Avon Lake you you know I have a question because I mean we
get some analytics from the show but i' would really like to know where where like the craziest or like the
most interactive fans are so on the blog this week how about you go and just put
your name and and what state you're from Texas Ohio wherever California k and maybe I'll do a special like we did
the the Ohio True Crime garage shirts maybe we'll do whatever State wins well and we have a tendency to see in from
the blog itself that we often get the most comments or questions about a case where people are from that area
where the case took place which is just kind of a natural thing one thing that should have been a natural thing Captain
is I should have went back and figured out when the first episode that we did an actual trailer for you know cuz we're
kind of here celebrating these trailers I love that we have the trailers on the show you do such a great job putting
together the music and you know we've been very lucky to have such a good audience uh such a good hardcore
audience that stuck with us for so long but I've had some people that are are trying to come up through the ranks of
the True Crime podcasting and they they want to know like that that you and I they somehow think that you and I are
holding on to some very well-kept secret which is not really the case at all but
they want to know what what is it that that you guys do that that has set you apart from some of the others and I
actually think it's drinking I think it's the trailers uh I've always thought that it it puts a theatrical spin on
that week's case and again like we said in the uh in the little leadup to today episode each case is is unique and we
respect that and understand that when we look at each one of these cases and we try to keep that in mind at all times
when we go into it doing the research and putting together the presentation for each case and we do the same thing
with the trailer with putting together the trailer each week we don't want tune in hor it was a horrible idea because
it's like the amount the amount of music that has to been you know to create every
week for the show is is a lot um it it was maybe if we would have decided hey every big case will do a trailer every
like big popular case but the other ones we won't it's a lot of uh a lot of music
being made for the show well and those of you that have been there from the very beginning or maybe you found the
garage at some point and you went back and you binge listen to all the old episodes to get caught up
you know that we didn't always do the trailers and in fact back when we did Son of Sam the episode number 21 back
then it was more common for us to do a single episode for a case yeah um and we didn't always do the beers right out the
gate either that was something that kind of happened organically I think we had the beer we had the beers we were
drinking them and what they were from everywhere they were from everywhere but what was funny was I was I would pick a
six-pack of a beer that was kind of hard to find or at least hard to find at the
time because you were driving up to see me and I knew it was going to be hot would be sitting in the garage and I'm
like well you know what I'm going to get a beer that we both can enjoy that not the run-of-the-mill everyday beer it be
something kind of special so we were always drinking a special beer but I don't think the beer of the week popped
up until there's a I think you asked me in one of the episodes early in one of the episodes is well what are we
drinking this week and boom now there's the uh the and boom now there's the beer of the
week boom genius idea well and also I don't think we ever got drunk in the first few episodes
because we were just sweating it all out I mean so if somebody goes hey man this first episode you sound like a
dumbass it's like well I sound like a dumbass on the new episode epodes uh but I'm just a lot clearer because I have a
better microphone than I had back then that you do there Captain all right a quick shout out to Justus from Hurricane
West Virginia and a shout to Kimberly from new Woodstock New York and that ladies and gentlemen brings us to number
eight this is true crime garage and this is the case of the West Memphis [Music]
3 The West Memphis 3 Damen Eckles Jason baldwi Jesse Miss Kelly the West Memphis
3 Damen Eckles Jason Baldwin Jesse Mell the West Memphis threee the West Memphis
[Music] Cree three children missing since last night three young boys murdered and cold
on it appeared that they had been sexually mutilated is it your opinion that these crimes were motivated by Ault
belief yes the West Memphis 3 arrested at 2:44 p.m. charged with three PBS of capital murder it was like
a nuclear bomb going off in the courtroom in a statement given to the police 17-year-old Jesse Miss Kelly
allegedly confesses to watching two other suspects choke rape and sexually mutilate three West Memphis second
graders in 1993 the small Arkansas town of West Memphis was robed by the gruesome killing of three 8-year-old
boys a police investigation brought murder charges against three local teams Damen
Eckles Jason Baldwin yes he Miss [Music] Kelly is not who do you believe is real
K Terry Wayne hog I don't know how much clearer I have to make it none of my DNA was
[Music] there none of the West m three's DNA was there what makes you sure it's what makes you so sure that it's
car hob pardon me what makes you so sure that it's car hob well his DNA was down there in the
lace of Michael [Music] Moore David jobe's hair was there what' it do fly there on Harry Potter's
w it either fell off a Terry hobs or he was there there's no other two ways about it none of the West SM 3's DNA was
there this is not just Damen Eckles Jason baldwi Jessie Miss Kelly Jesse Miss Kelly the West Memphis
Cree Damen Eckles Jason Baldwin Jessie Miss Kelly The West Memphis Three this is
[Music] not the West Memphis 3 old Mark buyers and of course those are the West Memphis 3 cases 40 41 and 42 and we were
just saying on off the Record the other day we probably could have done about 30
episodes on West Memphis 3 because it seemed like especially in the early days that that was a case that both of us
loved to discuss over and over and over yeah I think we were saying maybe we would just uh go back revisit West
Memphis 3 and cover it for the next two to three four years however long it takes to to figure it out uh no that was
one of the first first three parters that we did as you pointed out episodes 40 41 and 42 and you're right at the
time didn't it feel like three devoting three hours maybe a little more to a case was was a lot like yeah this is
going to be heavy lifting it's going to be difficult to put together it might be
difficult to fill the space I think our average one parters were already starting to get into the
hour 15 hour 20 now we also talked a little bit slower back then and our delivery wasn't as
good and there was a lot more spaces I don't think we spent as much time editing the episodes well you'll have
people that will say look they did all those documentaries on the west Memphis 3 it should be easy to fill 3 hours or
three and a half or four whatever it ended up being but well half those documentaries are just Metallica songs
and with visuals visuals yeah they're not they're not actually talking to Phil the space there's and and to be honest
with you I think we broke it down in our coverage of it how little actual case information there are in in those three
in the trilogy The Paradise Lost Trilogy itself uhuh now but we both consider them to be brilliant documentaries I
mean they're they're fascinating to watch I don't get tired of them yeah but look part one episode 40 hour and 12
minutes episode two hour and 36 minutes episode three an hour and 51 minutes this is I think at the point where I
started realizing it's hard uh with you know to to condense it down and you don't want
the episode to be two hours long that's intimidating yeah it's hard in the streets and it's hard in the garage and
it's hard in the streets of West Memphis the the uh the thing too is I think we spent the majority of the second episode
that it took us an hour and 30 because we were going through the timeline in such detail that we were trying to show
that hey look while we agree that the documentaries are the Paradise Lost uh documentaries are very
entertaining and whatnot they spent a lot of time building a case against Mark buyers and we spent a lot of time in
that second episode tearing down that case against Mark buyers because when you look and you review the timeline of
events that people agree upon that that more than one in the inner Circles of these six families involved and the
police and the neighborhood and such right you see that there's very little time for Mark buers to have done
anything uh as you know to to have harmed these boys and of course now all these years later even before we covered
it we know that there are different circumstances to to look at and truly analyze during that but it was it was
something that we were happy to put together and again like you said Captain it was a case that we were very
passionate about back then we were very passionate about it in the 90s it was it
was one of those ones that we always knew we would cover it but it was about wanting to try to cover it the best way
we knew how at the time and I think we did a fairly good job of that at the time I thought we I thought we nailed it
I thought it was a home run yeah I mean yeah and it's so part of me wants to applaud ourselves because we took on a
giant challenge probably before we were ready I mean but let's be honest like we
said we we started a podcast to see if we could do it you know not to start putting them out so then once you get to
a challenge like that you go oh that's pretty good but I remember the following week going yeah
this is pretty good but like we could have spaced them out more more maybe this should have been six parts you know
um or or or possibly even more and so now when I look at it and if I mean just off the top of my head if you said to me
you need to cover West Memphis 3 I'd go that's going to take you about 10 to 12 episodes well and that was a a helpful
learning experience for the two of us because it allowed us to know and understand for future cases that are of
that size or that popularity that there's that much information out there that three isn't going to be enough it just
won't be and look I I'm happy to applaud ourselves for what we put together back
then of course we've gotten better Heck if we've not gotten better from episode 40 to episode 500 then we're really
we're really doing something wrong and really have gone backwards there's a listener out there right now going hey
boys you sound the same to me well hopefully they're still listening because they they love the show and love
the garage two people that I love Lindsay and Atlanta Georgia Nona you don't hear that name very often cheers
to Nona and Rogers Arkansas which is very fitting to fall there with the West Memphis 3 thank you to everybody for the
BW Ru n beun yeah these aren't just random names that we're shouting out we're doing the beer fund shout outs a
little bit differently this week because hey we're partying it up as we go through our countdown here in the garage
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today [Applause] [Music] all right cheers mates to the people in the back to the people in the front more
importantly cheers to the people being bust in from out of town we love you cheers to Sarah and Dan in Cincinnati
and chrisy who is very mysterious says she's somewhere between Portage and Springport up in Michigan so I hope that
that doesn't mean that she's lost up there Captain I'm somewhere between extremely ugly and extremely
sexy so figure that one out figure that out dial that up dial that one in see what Captain you get
yeah all right what number so those those were our first three right that was our first three yes Counting is not
our best no we have we're we're drinking the hard stuff this week or maybe it's called the easy stuff by my calculations
captain that would put us around number seven right counted down three already seven to go parties kicking parties
happening let's go with number [Music] seven [Music] the following is a BTK offender criminal
profile this profile was written several years after btk's first set of murders in it reads the attached analysis is
only as good as the information that has been provided in addition it may be necessary
to totally change or modify this analysis if new information is developed such as additional victims more forensic
evidence or more information obtained from research multiple homicides witch all
Kansas the murders of the offender known to the public only as the BTK are the result of a fantasy acted out a fantasy
where for the first time in his life he is in a position of dominance he is an inadequate type A nobody who through his
crimes has placed himself in a position of importance the BTK Strangler is now a
somebody who is receiving the recognition he feels is a long overdue he is not even very original in
his crimes he has patterned himself after other Killers such as the Son of Sam in
New York City most of the verbiage used by the offender in his letters probably comes
out of recent Publications in detective magazines the subject is alienated lonely and
withdrawn he would not be expected to have any lasting relationships with others and would lead a solitary
existence dominating by fantasy and magical thinking his killing is an attempt on
his part to find affection and acceptance he fears everyone including himself he would not be expected to have
had any normal relations with women and probably has never had a normal heterosexual relationship with
one when he is not killing he experiences intense feelings that he is not normal and therefore he kills to
cope with this disorder and attempt to escape within his own fantasies thus he can be expected to
kill again and to do so in a compulsive repetition pattern that he has already established his victims can be either
male or female who are both loved and outgoing his victims will be in a position of vulnerability where he can
totally render them helpless his victims represent his own feelings of helplessness and
hopelessness his own life has been disruptive he probably comes from a background where his family was broken
he was raised by an overbearing mother who was inconsistent in her discipline and his father was absent either because
of marital Separation or death this would have occurred when he was a youth your subject may have been
raised by foster parents your subject was an average student in the class classroom however he was more Adept to
disrupting the class by using profanity and pranks his language and statements make
us believe that he has some military experience and or is a police buff he probably has had run-ins with
the police in the past such as assault Andor breaking and entering during these Breakin items
taken will be items of insignificance these items would have been taken because of a fetish or to
feed a strong urge to take an article of clothing or an item that he is fond of or the satisfaction of committing a
crime that will leave little evidence to investigators BTK may have a history of
veristic activity and he may have an arrest record for these types of offenses he hunts his victims by
selecting neighborhoods where he can peruse different houses without being detected furthermore his victims will
live in an area where if need be he can have an easy Escape Route such as a neighborhood park where he can hide to
elude police his killings are impulsively motivated and without elaborate planning he seeks out targets
of opportunity such individuals of this type suffer from insomnia and thus find it difficult to Hold Steady
employment control of himself and of his environment is essential to such a person although he is gaining in
confidence he is still shy withdrawn and isolated as a counter strategy technique
your department must not make any statements concerning the Killer's mental condition do not allow the media
to label him as some kind of psychotic killer if they have already done so your best strategy will be to align yourself
with the Killer and not the psychiatric experts any press releases should clearly state that he is a killer who
must be apprehended and that he is not a psychotic animal this approach May reduce the
Killer's anxiety and reinforce his own guilt feelings this removing any psychiatric
excuses for his acts and leaving him responsible for his murders extended periods between his murders maybe for
reasons when he was absent from the area either as a result of military service schooling incarceration or mental
treatment it is not uncommon for subjects such as yours to frequent police Hangouts and an attempt to
overhear officers discussing the case such offenders may be at the crime scene observing detectives investigating
the case all of this allows the murderer to fulfill his ego and gain a feeling of
superiority he may go so far as to telephonically contact your department and provide details specific to his
crimes your advantage in this case is his very strong self-centered attitude will be his downfall he will provide
information to a friend or an acquaintance at a local Tavern concerning information he knows about
the case he may even pretend to be an officer working the case he may carry a fake badge on his person if so he may
use this to gain entry into his victim's homes BTK will continue to kill until he
is caught or killed [Music] one of my favorite characters in the mind Hunter series BTK because you don't
really get to hear him talk and you don't know when they're going to start looking for him and he's
so similar to BTK in real life like looks like they could you know um they casted the character very well well on
us as the viewers we know what he's up to so it makes it even a little more intriguing when they you know when they
break and then they show BTK for a little bit maybe he's dressed up in one of his costumes maybe he's standing
there in front of a burning Barrel tossing in pictures and drawings that he's made now that that trailer is a
great trailer that was from May of 2018 when we did a four-part series on the be
TK who is one of your favorite characters on The Mind Hunter show which I'm hoping season 3 sometime I hope
they're working on it right now but is one of my least favorite serial killers I hate the BTK hate Dennis Raider would
love to squash him like a bug that was another one of those guys that taunted police in the public with his letters
and whatnot and contacting the I believe he even used the phone one time to call
in something to the local media or to the police but 2018 May is when we did the four parter
on BTK Captain I remember 2017 and 2018 early part of 2018 we were getting a lot
of requests to do more expanded uh deep dives into these different types of cases be it solved or
unsolved we were getting a lot of requests for four parters and we were happy miss the four parters we were
happy to oblig seems like we haven't done a four parter in a while but I guess a few months ago what we did the
unibomber right well not only did I read the trailer there Captain for BTK I provided the screams for you at the end
of it as well that was some of my that's when you see a bug some some of my finest work yeah like George like I
swallowed a fly what do I do what do I do uh but yeah that was uh some of my finest work that I've done here in the
garage with those screams um yeah unibomber uh not too long ago and you're right maybe we need to hear from the
people the people will tell us what they want the people in the front and the back and we are happy to uh we're happy
to uh answer all requests we're almost to the halfway point let's get to number [Music]
six [Music] murder is a broad and fascinating crime people murder for love and for hate some
murder for money others for want of money some people murder in a cold insane rage and some people murder with
the calculating skill of a butcher some people use guns or knives or their hands some people murder
children exclusively or women and some people plant bombs in hi trffic locals and some mail them to specific
targets New York City's mad bomber a case featured here in the garage was about an angry and yes very much a
Madman who terrorized New York City for 16 years in the 194s and 1950s with explosives that he planted in
public places by bombs were left in foam booths storage lockers and restrooms in
public buildings including the Grand Central Terminal Pennsylvania station Radio City Music Hall the subway and the
New York Public Library for 16 years a period stretching back to 1940 the largest most formidable police force in
the nation had failed to hustle up any worthy leads by 1956 the bombers handiwork showed a lethal new
proficiency he declared his deadly intent in letters sent to newspaper editors each rambling raging letter was
cryptically signed FP desperation drove the police to pursue a course they never before
considered in the Department's 11-year history NYPD was going to consult with James a brussel a
psychiatrist with the expertise and the workings of the Criminal Mind If physical evidence could not lead the
police to FP maybe emotional insights could since a physical description of the bomber was unattainable New York
police believe maybe Dr brussle could use the evidence to draw a profile of the bomber's inner self an emotional
portrait that would illuminate his background and disorder brussle told them that the bomber was a textbook
paranoid schizophrenic people suffering from this disorder he explained May believe other people are controlling
them or plotting against them they are typically reclusive antisocial and consumed with hatred for their imagined
enemies for all their derangement they're capable of acting quite normal until inevitably some aspect of their
delusions enter into their conversation the paranoic is the world's champion Grudge holder Brussel would
explain we all get mad at other people and organizations sometimes but with most of us the anger evaporates
eventually the Mad bomber's anger does not once he gets the idea that somebody has wronged him or is out to hurt him
the idea stays in his mind the bomber Brussel continued almost surely operated as a lone wolf paranoids quote have
confidence only in themselves they are overwhelmingly egocentric they distrust everyone an
accomplice would be a potential bungler or double Crosser ultimately Dr brussle was correct and
his assessment of the evidence which was simply the bombers actions words and intent this specifically helped NYPD
identify locate and apprehend a domestic terrorist that eluded them for 16 years
the mad bomber later identified as George mateski was angry and resentful about events surrounding a workplace
injury he suffered years earlier brussell called his approach Reverse Psychology today we call it criminal
profiling decades later in 1980 after four attacks the FBI created the unib bomb task
force during the 80s they failed to identify the unibomber and then he went dormant the FED suspected the terrorist
could be dead but then the attack started up again and in 1993 things at the task force were ramping up and a new
wave of Agents with differing array of expertise were brought in to work the case it's wouldbe assigned task force
agents all received a rather large memo titled major case number 75- unabomb for
well over a decade the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the US investigated the case they dubbed
unabomb by the mid90s the perpetrator was the most Wanted serial killer in the United States and he was one that none
of his victims had ever laid eyes on an individual so mysterious and Elusive that he was known only by the case code
name the FBI had given him unibomber since his early bombings were directed at universities and
Airlines unlike the one big crude blast of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy mcve and
his cohorts the uni bombers attacks were more like that of the Mad bombers but unfortunately more destructive and
deadly these bombings were spaced apart this perpetrator could wait and act over
time he was more specifically directed he was clever he was diabolical and his motive was wrapped in layers of
mystery this is true crime garage and this is the case of the unibomber [Music] you like Robert Stack have a nice
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this episode we did a four parter on Ted kazinski the unibomber it the look the world would have been a better place had
that guy just accidentally blown himself up during the constructions of those bombs in his little little Shack that he
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True Crime Garage celebrates 500 episodes by counting down their top 10 true crime trailers while reflecting on their podcast journey and listener support.

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Celebrating 500 Episodes. The hosts celebrate a major milestone in their podcast journey.
The Son of Sam's Confession. A chilling reading from the perspective of the infamous killer.
The West Memphis Three Case. A deep dive into the tragic murder of three young boys.
Documentary Coverage Challenges. The team reflects on the difficulty of condensing complex cases into shorter episodes.
BTK Profile Insights. An analysis of the BTK killer reveals his psychological profile and motivations.
The Mad Bomber's Terror. The Mad Bomber terrorized New York City for 16 years with explosive devices.

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