Garage Party /// Part 1 /// 499 | Forensic Files

Heat. Heat. [Music] Welcome to the garage party. Wherever you are and whatever you may be doing,
thank you for listening and thank you for joining the party. I'm your host, Nick, and with me as always, co-hosting
and master of ceremonies, ladies and gentlemen, the captain. It is good to be seen and good to see
you. Thanks for listening and thanks for telling a friend. What a beautiful tuxedo you have there, Captain. This
week, we will be rolling out the red carpet as we celebrate you, the listeners, us, the host, and your
favorite garage studio. This week marks a very impressive podcast milestone of 500. That's a five followed by two zeros
episodes. And to celebrate this most impressive of milestones, we will count down our 10 greatest true crime garage
trailers of all time. That's right. It's a feature of our show that most true crime shows don't have. Each week, the
captain composes some great music and pulls a clip or two, or maybe the colonel does a little write up for that
week's case. Each case that we have covered here in the garage is unique and each week the trailer that we put
together is just as unique as the case that we are covering. So please join us, won't you? As we celebrate you, the
listeners for making this possible. Back when we started in 2015, we didn't think
anybody would listen to two beerrinking dorks recording in a garage. But now it's almost 6 years later and we have
one of the best, brightest, and most beautiful audience in all of true crime podcasting. And so this week we
celebrate you. Heck, many of you have been with us since 2015 or 2016. And we truly hope that you have enjoyed the
ride as much as we have. This week, to celebrate in a proper fashion, we are drinking Angel's Envy Kentucky straight
handcrafted bourbon. Call me oldfashioned captain, but I believe real bourbon comes from Kentucky. Garage
grade, of course. Five out of five bottle caps. So to all of you out there in listener land, that's right. I'm
talking to you, friends, colleagues, true crime garage army, and citizens of parts unknown. Wherever you are,
whatever you are doing, raise a cup, your glass, a tall can, be it bourbon, coffee, wine, beer, or soda, cuz this
one is for you. Let's talk some true crime. I am monster. I am I am monster. Fire am I am
I am I am I am I am I am [Music] this is true crime garage and this is the case of son of Damn.
[Music] I am I am I am a monster. Monster. [Music] I am deeply hurt by you calling me a
woman hater. I am not. But I am a monster. I am the son of Sam. I'm a little brat.
When Father Sam gets drunk, he gets mean. He beats his family. Sometimes he ties me up to the back of
the house. Other times he locks me in the garage. Sam loves to drink blood. Go out and kill, commands Father Sam.
Behind our house, some rest. Mostly young, raped and slaughtered. Their blood drained. Just bones now.
Papa Sam keeps me locked in the attic, too. I can't get out, but I look out the attic window and I watch the world go
by. I feel like an outsider. I'm on a different wavelength than everybody else. Programmed to kill.
However, to stop me, you must kill me. Attention all police. Shoot me first. Shoot the kill or else.
Keep out of my way or you will die. Papa Sam is old now. He needs some blood to preserve his youth. He has had too
many heart attacks. Too many heart attacks. It hurts. Sunny boy. I miss my pretty princess most of all.
She's resting in our lady's house, but I'll see her soon. I am the monster be elabub the chubby bo behemoth.
I love to hunt prowling the streets looking for fair game tasty meat. The women of queens are the prettiest of
all. I must be the water they drink. I live for the hunt my life blood for papa.
Mr. Belli sir, I don't want to kill anymore. No sir, no more. But I must honor thy father.
I want to make love to the world. I love people. I don't belong on earth. Return
me to the Yahoos. To the people of Queens, I love you. And I want to wish you all a happy Easter.
May God bless you in this life and in the next. And for now, I say goodbye and good night.
Police. Let me haunt you with these words. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back
to be interpreted as bang bang bang bang. Yours and murder, Mr. Monster. I am I am I am a monster. Monster.
[Music] Can't believe that one is only number 10. Cuz when you say the chubby boo,
when you say chubby behemoth, the chubby bohemoth. Hey, I just said it. Uh David Burkowitz
wrote it. Yeah, but you won the the Emmy for that. The uh funny thing here, that's episode
21 of True Crime Garage way back in the day. And that one, look, I promise it's not
going to be this scary. The entire top 10 countdown. I mean, between the the your friend over here that is weirded me
out that you invited into the garage to to count him down. 10 10 that guy Mortal Kombat,
he refuses to tell me his name. He's just staring at me. Weird. Between him, the chubby bohem,
right between him and the uh the Son of Sam trailer there, I'm uh I'm on edge, man. I'm on edge. This is supposed to be
a party. I'm supposed to be having a good time. Bang, bang, bang. That was a great trailer and of course that was the
uh son of Sam who wrote that trailer essentially themselves. Captain knows how much I love anytime we have a case
that involves writings from the killer or letters sent to newspapers or taunts sent to police or even
TV news outlets. It's weird to be a fan of something like that, but it's one of those situations where I find it
incredibly intriguing. I find it very interesting that someone would take it to that level and have to fill some kind
of weird need of communicating with others while they're supposed to be hiding from police. And instead, it's a
it's a taunt. It's it's to mock the investigation and mock the public who is afraid at the time. But it dramatically
love him. He loves Queens. dramatically increases the risk that the offender is taking along the way as well.
Yeah. And I believe that was our first dramatic reading during the trailer and it was uh I thought it was effective but
it was also felt a little silly also at the time because of the words like chubby bohemoth. But let's get into
number nine. [Music] The press and the media. live in that neighborhood anymore.
There's no real reason for you to carry a 9 mm. Don't believe that? Why? Once my life is gone, it's gone.
[Music] And obviously that's the late great Tupac Shakur. Those are episodes 112 and 113. If
people want to keep track, keep score at home and go back and check out some of the old episodes. Maybe we are
presenting trailers to you that you are hearing for the first time today. Yeah, it's a nice feeling when somebody
messages you and they say, for example, let's take the Tupac Shakore case and they say, "Oh, I just watched this
documentary. I would love to hear you guys cover Tupac's case." and he go, "Well, go to 112, 113 and you can check
it out." And they get so excited because they don't have to wait. They don't have
to go, "Oh, well, maybe they'll put on the list. Maybe they'll do it in a couple months. Oh, it's already done.
Awesome." And also, I think it's just a nice feeling. I think when we started doing the podcast, it was just to see if
we could do it. I don't even remember if we ever talked about putting it out like
before we we tried before we sat down, flipped on microphones. Yeah. It was just simply, hey, would you
like to try a podcast? Would you like to try to do one, not let's put it out for
the world to hear? And then once we did a couple, we're like, well, let's just put it out and see what happens.
And 500 episodes later, the people that we meet at Crime Con that tell me, they're like, you know,
I've been with you guys since the beginning, I give them an extra big thank you because I'm like, you are a
very understanding and patient person. We used to get up in the middle of recording and go get a beer and keep
talking on mic. So, it's it would sound like this. Hey, I'm going to go to the fridge and I'm coming back and now I'm
back and here I am. And I think you cleared it up and said it better than I did. I said, you know, when we started
this, we didn't think anybody would listen to two guys in a garage. Uh, but you're right, we're recording it, not
even with the idea of putting it out or releasing it to the world at the time. It was just something to set up and see
if we could do. And if if it's painful to listen to one or two of those first early episodes,
it's because we're in pain. We're sitting in a garage that was like 110° and the beers
dripping. Yeah, the beers were necessary just to try to keep us uh cooled down to the
point that we wouldn't expire during the the actual episode itself. And while we're doing this here, Captain, I want
to make sure we give out some uh beer fund shoutouts along the way. So, raise of the glass. We're going to be raising
the glass many times this week as we celebrate. But a cheers to Lace in Austin, Texas, and a cheers to Jennifer
in Avon Lake, Ohio. A lot of cool, a lot of beautiful people on Avon Lake. You you know, I have a
question because I mean, we get some analytics from the show, but I would really like to know where like the
craziest or like the most interactive fans are. So, on the blog this week, how about you go and just put
your name and and what state you're from? Texas, Ohio, wherever. California, California, and
maybe I'll do a special like we did the the Ohio True Crime Garage shirts. Maybe
we'll do whatever state wins. Well, and we have a tendency to see in from the blog itself that we often get the most
comments or questions about a case where people are from that area where the case took place, which is just kind
of a natural thing. One thing that should have been a natural thing, Captain, is I should have went back and
figured out when the first episode that we did an actual trailer for, you know, cuz we're kind of here celebrating these
trailers. I love that we have the trailers on the show. You do such a great job putting together the music and
you know, we've been very lucky to have such a good audience, uh, such a good hardcore audience that stuck with us for
so long. But I've had some people that are are trying to come up through the ranks of the true crime podcasting and
they they want to know like that that you and I they somehow think that you and I are holding on to some very
well-kept secret which is not really the case at all. But they want to know what
what is it that that you guys do that that has set you apart from some of the others. And I actually think it's
the drinking. I think it's the trailers. U I've always thought that it it puts a theatrical
spin on that week's case. And again, like we said in the uh in the little leadup to today's episode,
each case is is unique and we respect that and understand that when we look at each one of these cases and we try to
keep that in mind at all times when we go into it doing the research and putting together the presentation for
each case. And we do the same thing with the trailer with putting together the trailer each week. We don't want you to
tune in. It was a horrible idea because it's like the the amount the amount of music that
has to been, you know, to create every week for the show is there's a lot. Um it it was maybe if we would have
decided, hey, every big case we'll do a trailer, every like big popular case, but the other ones we won't. It's a lot
of uh a lot of music being made for the show. Well, and those of you that have been there from the very beginning, or
maybe you found the garage at some point and you went back and you binge listen to all the old episodes to get caught
up, you know that we didn't always do the trailers. And in fact, back when we did
Son of Sam, the episode number 21, back then, it was more common for us to do a single episode for a case.
Yeah. Um, and we didn't always do the beers right out the gate either. That was something that kind of happened
organically, I think. Well, we had the beer. We had the beers. We were drinking them.
And they were from everywhere. They were from everywhere. But what was funny was I was I would pick a six-pack
of a beer that was kind of hard to find, or at least hard to find at the time, because you were driving up to see me
and I knew it was going to be hot. would be sitting in the garage. And I'm like,
well, you know what? I'm going to get a beer that we both can enjoy that's not the run-of-the-mill everyday beer to be
something kind of special. So, we were always drinking a special beer, but I don't think the beer of the week popped
up until there's a I think you asked me in in one of the episodes, early in one of the episodes, well, what are we
drinking this week? And boom, now there's the uh the And boom, now there's the beer of the
week. Boom. genius idea. Well, and also I don't think we ever got drunk in the first few
episodes because we were just sweating it all out. I mean, so if somebody goes, "Hey, man,
those first episodes you sound like a dumbass." It's like, well, I sound like a dumbass on the new episodes. Uh, but
I'm just a lot clearer because I have a better microphone than I had back then. That you do there, Captain. All right, a
quick shout out to Justin from Hurricane West Virginia and a shout to Kimberly from New Woodstock, New York. And that,
ladies and gentlemen, brings us to number eight. This is True Crime Garage. And this is the case of the West Memphis
3. The West Memphis 3. Damian Heckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse Miss Kelly, the West Memphis Street,
Damian Heckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse Miss Kelly, the West Memphis Street, the West Memphis Street.
[Music] We've had three children missing us last night. [Music] Three young boys murdered in Colon.
It appeared that they had been sexually mutilated. Is it your opinion that these
crimes were motivated by a cult police? Yes. The West Memphis 3. Arrested at 2:44 p.m. charged with three
counts of capital murder. It was like that nuclear bomb going off in the courtroom.
In a statement given to police, 17-year-old Jesse Miss Kelly allegedly confesses to watching two other suspects
choke, rape, and sexually mutilate three West Memphis second graders. In 1993, the small Arkansas town of West
Memphis was rocked by the gruesome killing of three 8-year-old boys. A police investigation brought murder
charges against three local teens. Damian Eckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse, Miss Kelly, Miss Kelly.
[Music] This is not Who do you believe? Terry Wayne. I don't know how much clear I have to
make. None of my DNA was there. None of the West Memphis 3's DNA was there. [Music]
What makes you so sure it's What makes you so sure that it's Gary Hop? Pardon me.
What makes you so sure that it's Carrie Hob? Well, his D was found there at a lace of
Michael Moore. David's hair was there. What' it do? fly there on Harry Potter one.
It either fell off of Terry Hobbs or he was there. There's no other two ways about it. None of the Westminster 3's
DNA was there. [Music] This is not just Damian Heckles. Jason Baldwin, Jessie, Miss Kelly, Miss Kelly, Jesse
Miss Kelly, Miss Kelly, The West Memphis, Damian Eckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse, Kelly,
the West Memphis 3. This is not just [Music] the West Street. Old Mark Buyers. And of course, those are the West
Memphis three cases, 40, 41, and 42. And we were just saying on off the record the other day, we
probably could have done about 30 episodes on West Memphis 3 cuz it seemed like, especially in the early days, that
that was a case that both of us love to discuss over and over and over. Yeah. I think we were saying maybe we
would just uh go back, revisit West Memphis 3, and cover it for the next two to three, four years, however long it
takes to to figure it out. Uh, no, that was one of the first three-parters that we did, as you pointed out, episodes 40,
41, and 42. And you're right, at the time, didn't it feel like three devoting three hours, maybe a little more to a
case was was a lot? like, yeah, this is going to be heavy lifting. It's going to be difficult to put together.
It might be difficult to fill the space. I think our average one parters were already starting to get into the hour
15, hour 20. Now, we also talked a little bit slower back then and our delivery wasn't as
good and there was a lot more spaces. I don't think we spent as much time editing the episodes. Well, you'll have
people that will say, "Look, they did all those documentaries on the West Memphis 3. It should be easy to fill
three hours or three and a half or four, whatever it ended up being." But well, half those documentaries are just
Metallica songs and with visuals, right? Visuals. Yeah. They're not They're not actually
talking to fill the space. There's and and to be honest with you, I think we broke it down in our coverage of it how
little actual case information there are in in those three in the trilogy, the Paradise Lost Trilogy itself.
Uhhuh. Now, but we both consider them to be brilliant documentaries. I mean, they're
they're fascinating to watch. I don't get tired of them. Yeah. But look, part one, episode 40,
hour and 12 minutes. Episode two, an hour and 36 minutes. Episode three, an hour and 51 minutes. This is, I think,
at the point where I started realizing it's hard uh with, you know, to to condense it down and you don't want the
episode to be two hours long. That's intimidating. Yeah. It's hard in the streets and it's
hard in the garage. and it's hard in the streets of West Memphis. The uh the thing too is I think we spent the
majority of the second episode that it took us an hour and 30 because we were going through the timeline in such
detail that we were trying to show that hey look while we agree that the documentaries are the Paradise Lost uh
documentaries are very entertaining and whatnot. They spent a lot of time building a case against Mark Buyers and
we spent a lot of time in that second episode tearing down that case against Mark Buyers because when you look and
you review the timeline of events that people agree upon that that more than one in the inner circles of these six
families involved and the police and the neighborhood and such, right? you see that there's very little time for Mark
Buyers to have done anything u as you know to to have harmed these boys and of course now all these years later even
before we covered it we know that there are different circumstances to to look at and truly analyze during that but it
was it was something that we were happy to put together and again like you said captain it was a case that we were very
passionate about back then we were very passionate about it in the '9s it was it
It was one of those ones that we always knew we would cover it, but it was about
wanting to try to cover it the best way we knew how at the time. And I think we did a fairly good job of that. At the
time, I thought we I thought we nailed it. I thought it was a home run. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And it's so part of
me wants to applaud ourselves because we took on a giant challenge probably before we were ready. I mean, but let's
be honest, like we said, we we started a podcast to see if we could do it, you know, not to start putting them out. So
then once you get to a challenge like that, you go, "Oh, that's pretty good." But I remember the following week going,
"Yeah, this is pretty good, but like we could have spaced them out more. Maybe this should have been six parts, you
know, um or or or possibly even more." And so now when I look at it and if I mean just off the top of my head if he
said to me you need to cover West Memphis 3 I'd go that's going to take you about 10 to 12 episodes. Well, and
that was a a helpful learning experience for the two of us because it allowed us
to know and understand for future cases that are of that size or that popularity
that there's that much information out there that three isn't going to be enough. It just won't
be. And look, I I'm happy to applaud ourselves for what we put together back then. Of course, we've gotten better.
Heck, if we've not gotten better from episode 40 to episode 500, then we're really we're really doing something
wrong and and really have gone backwards. There's a listener out there right now
going, "Hey, boys, you sound the same to me." Well, hopefully they're still listening
because they they love the show and love the garage. Two people that I love, Lindsay in Atlanta, Georgia. Nona, you
don't hear that name very often. Cheers to Nona in Rogers, Arkansas, which is very fitting to fall there with the West
Memphis 3K. Thank you to everybody for the BW Are you N beer run? Yeah, these aren't just random names
that we're shouting out. We're doing the beer fund shout outs a little bit differently this week because hey, we're
partying it up as we go through our countdown here in the garage. But everybody, if you hear your name, you
helped us fill up the beer fridge for what's going to turn out to be next week, right, Captain? because we're
we're enjoying some angel's envy today. [Music] [Applause] [Music] All right. Cheers, mates. To the people
in the back, to the people in the front. More importantly, cheers to the people being bust in from out of town. We love
you. Cheers to Sarah and Dan in Cincinnati. And Christy, who is very mysterious, says she's somewhere between
Portage and Springport up in Michigan. So, I hope that that doesn't mean that she's lost up there, Captain.
I'm somewhere between extremely ugly and extremely sexy. So, figure that one out.
Figure that out. Dial that up. Dial that one in. See what captain you get. Yeah.
All right. What number? So, those those were our first three, right? That was our first three. Yes.
Counting's not our best. No, we have we're we're drinking the hard stuff this week. Or maybe it's
called the easy stuff. By my calculations, Captain, that would put us around number seven, right?
Counted down three already. Seven to go. Party's kicking. Party's happening. Let's go with number seven.
[Music] The following is a BTK offender criminal profile. This profile was written
several years after BTK's first set of murders. It reads, "The attached analysis is only as good as the
information that has been provided. In addition, it may be necessary to totally change or modify this analysis
if new information is developed, such as additional victims, more forensic evidence, or more information obtained
from research. Multiple homicides, Witchah, Kansas. The murders of the offender known to the
public only as the BTK are the result of a fantasy acted out. A fantasy where for
the first time in his life, he is in a position of dominance. He is an inadequate type, a nobody who
through his crimes has placed himself in a position of importance. The BTK strangler is now a somebody who
is receiving the recognition he feels is long overdue. He is not even very original in his
crimes. He has patterned himself after other killers such as the son of Sam in New York City.
Most of the verbiage used by the offender in his letters probably comes out of recent publications in detective
magazines. The subject is alienated, lonely, and withdrawn. He would not be expected to have any
lasting relationships with others and would lead a solitary existence dominated by fantasy and magical
thinking. His killing is an attempt on his part to find affection and acceptance. He fears
everyone, including himself. He would not be expected to have had any normal relations with women and probably
has never had a normal heterosexual relationship with one. When he is not killing, he experiences
intense feelings that he is not normal and therefore he kills to cope with this disorder and attempt to escape within
his own fantasies. Thus, he can be expected to kill again and to do so in a compulsive repetition
pattern that he has already established. His victims can be either male or female
who are both loved and outgoing. His victims will be in a position of vulnerability where he can totally
render them helpless. His victims represent his own feeling of helplessness and hopelessness. His own
life has been disruptive. He probably comes from a background where his family was broken. He was
raised by an overbearing mother who was inconsistent in her discipline and his father was absent either because of
marital separation or death. This would have occurred when he was a youth. Your subject may have been raised
by foster parents. Your subject was an average student in the classroom. However, he was more adept to disrupting
the class by using profanity and pranks. His language and statements make us believe that he has some military
experience and or is a police buff. He probably has had run-ins with the police in the past, such as assault
and/or breaking and entering. During these break-ins, items taken will be items of insignificance.
These items would have been taken because of a fetish or to feed a strong urge to take an article of clothing or
an item that he is fond of or the satisfaction of committing a crime that will leave little evidence to
investigators. BTK may have a history of vyoristic activity and he may have an arrest
record for these types of offenses. He hunts his victims by selecting neighborhoods where he can peruse
different houses without being detected. Furthermore, his victims will live in an
area where, if need be, he can have an easy escape route, such as a neighborhood park where he can hide to
elude police. His killings are impulsively motivated and without elaborate planning. He seeks out targets
of opportunity. Such individuals of this type suffer from insomnia and thus find
it difficult to hold steady employment. Control of himself and of his environment is essential to such a
person. Although he is gaining in confidence, he is still shy, withdrawn, and isolated.
As a counter strategy technique, your department must not make any statements concerning the killer's mental
condition. Do not allow the media to label him as some kind of psychotic killer.
If they have already done so, your best strategy will be to align yourself with the killer and not the psychiatric
experts. Any press releases should clearly state that he is a killer who must be
apprehended and that he is not a psychotic animal. This approach may reduce the killer's
anxiety and reinforce his own guilt feelings. this removing any psychiatric excuses
for his acts and leaving him responsible for his murders. Extended periods between his murders may be for reasons
when he was absent from the area, either as a result of military service, schooling, incarceration, or mental
treatment. It is not uncommon for subjects such as yours to frequent police hangouts and an attempt to
overhear officers discussing the case. Such offenders may be at the crime scene observing detectives investigating the
case. All of this allows the murderer to fulfill his ego and gain a feeling of superiority.
He may go so far as to telephonically contact your department and provide details specific to his crimes. Your
advantage in this case is his very strong self-centered attitude will be his downfall. He will provide
information to a friend or an acquaintance at a local tavern concerning information he knows about
the case. He may even pretend to be an officer working the case. He may carry a fake badge on his person. If so, he may
use this to gain entry into his victim's homes. BTK will continue to kill until he is caught or killed.
[Music] one of my favorite characters in the Mine Hunter series, BTK, because you
don't really get to hear him talk and you don't know when they're going to start looking for him. And he's so
similar to BTK in real life. like looks like they could, you know, um they casted the character very well.
Well, and us as the viewers, we know what he's up to. So, it makes it even a little more intriguing when they, you
know, when they break and then they show BTK for a little bit. Maybe he's dressed
up in one of his costumes. Maybe he's standing there in front of a burning barrel tossing in pictures and drawings
that he's made. Now, that that trailer is a great trailer. That was from May of 2018 when we did a four-part series on
the BTK, who is one of your favorite characters on the Mind Hunter Show, which I'm hoping season 3
sometime. I hope they're working on it right now. But is one of my least favorite serial killers. I hate the BTK.
Hate Dennis Raider. would love to squash him like a bug. That was another one of
those guys that taunted police and the public with his letters and whatnot and contacting the I believe he even used
the phone one time to call in something to the local media or to the police. But
2018 May is when we did the fourparter on BTK captain. I remember 2017 and 2018, early part of 2018, we were
getting a lot of requests to do more expanded uh deep dives into these different types
of cases, be it solved or unsolved. We were getting a lot of requests for fourparters, and we were happy.
I missed the fourarters. We were happy to oblige. Seems like we haven't done a fourparter
in a while, but I guess a few months ago, well, we did the uniomber, right? Well, not only did I read the trailer
there, Captain for BTK, I provided the screams for you at the end of it as well.
That was some of my That's when you see a bug. Some some of my finest work. Yeah, like
George, like I swallowed a fly. What do I do? What do I do? Uh but yeah, that was uh some of my finest work that I've
done here in the garage with those screams. Um yeah, Uni Bomber uh not too long ago. And you're right, maybe we
need to hear from the people. The people will tell us what they want. The people in the front and the back.
And we are happy to uh we're happy to uh answer all requests. We're almost to the halfway point. Let's
get to number six. [Music] [Music] Murder is a broad and fascinating crime. People murder for love and for hate.
Some murder for money, others for want of money. Some people murder in a cold, insane rage. And some people murder with
the calculating skill of a butcher. Some people use guns or knives or their hands. Some people murder children
exclusively or women. And some people plant bombs in hightra loces. and some mail them to specific targets.
New York City's Mad Bomber, a case featured here in The Garage, was about an angry and yes, very much a
madman who terrorized New York City for 16 years in the 1940s and 1950s with explosives that he planted in public
places. Bombs were left in phone booths, storage lockers, and restrooms in public
buildings, including the Grand Central Terminal, Pennsylvania Station, Radio City Music Hall, the subway, and the New
York Public Library. For 16 years, a period stretching back to 1940, the largest, most formidable police force in
the nation, had failed to hustle up any worthy leads. By 1956, the bombers's handiwork showed a lethal new
proficiency. He declared his deadly intent in letters sent to newspaper editors. Each
rambling, raging letter was cryptically signed FP. Desperation drove the police to pursue a course they never before
considered in the department's 111-year history. NYPD was going to consult with James A. Brussell, a psychiatrist with
the expertise in the workings of the criminal mind. If physical evidence could not lead the police to FP, maybe
emotional insights could. Since a physical description of the bomber was unattainable, New York police believe
maybe Dr. Brussell could use the evidence to draw a profile of the bombers's inner self, an emotional
portrait that would illuminate his background and disorder. Brussell told them that the bomber was a textbook
paranoid schizophrenic. People suffering from this disorder, he explained, may believe other people are controlling
them or plotting against them. They are typically reclusive, antisocial, and consumed with hatred for their imagined
enemies. For all their derangement, they're capable of acting quite normal until inevitably some aspect of their
delusions enter into their conversation. The paranoic is the world's champion grudge, Russell would explain.
We all get mad at other people and organizations sometimes, but with most of us, the anger evaporates eventually.
The mad bombers's anger does not. Once he gets the idea that somebody has wronged him or is out to hurt him, the
idea stays in his mind. The bomber, Russell continued, almost surely operated as a lone wolf. Paranoids,
quote, have confidence only in themselves. They are overwhelmingly egocentric. They distrust everyone. An accomplice
would be a potential bungler or double crosser. Ultimately, Dr. Brussell was correct in his assessment of the
evidence, which was simply the bombers's actions, words, and intent. This specifically helped NYPD identify,
locate, and apprehend a domestic terrorist that eluded them for 16 years. The mad bomber, later identified as
George Matesky, was angry and resentful about events surrounding a workplace injury he suffered years earlier.
Russell called his approach reverse psychology. Today, we call it criminal profiling.
Decades later, in 1980, after four attacks, the FBI created the uniomb task force.
During the 80s, they failed to identify the uni bomber and then he went dormant.
The feds suspected the terrorist could be dead. But then the attack started up again and in 1993 things at the task
force were ramping up and a new wave of agents with differing array of expertise
were brought in to work the case. Its wouldbe assigned task force agents all received a rather large memo titled
major case number 75- Unibomb. For well over a decade, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the US
investigated the case they dubbed Unibomb. By the mid90s, the perpetrator was the
most wanted serial killer in the United States, and he was one that none of his victims had ever laid eyes on. an
individual so mysterious and elusive that he was known only by the case code name the FBI had given him Uni Bomber
since his early bombings were directed at universities and airlines. Unlike the one big crude blast of
Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVey and his cohorts, the Uni Bombers attacks were more like that of the Mad Bombers,
but unfortunately more destructive and deadly. These bombings were spaced apart. This
perpetrator could wait and act over time. He was more specifically directed. He was clever. He was diabolical. And
his motive was wrapped in layers of mystery. This is True Crime Garage. And this is
the case of the Uni Bomber. [Music] You like Robert Stack have a nice cadence to those trailers.
And you know what? One thing we do that's just polite, you'll notice that we often say in a trailer, "This is True
Crime Garage." That way, if you ended up here by accident and you were looking for a different show, we let you know so
you don't have to wait till the end to find out. Yeah. I like when people go, "Hey, uh, I
normally agree with you guys, but this last episode, we were we don't seem to be on the same page,
right?" And they say, "Uh, you know, whatever case it is, and then I look it up and I
go, we we didn't cover that case, right? Wrong show." And then I then they go, "Oh my god, I'm
so embarrassed." But we're also polite, too, because when we fart, we say, "Excuse me." Well, and
some people, you know, maybe a lot of people listen at work or at the gym or during their commute. And, you know,
we're we're one of the better flavors on the block, but maybe a bunch of psychopaths just iron
listening to murder. People need more than one flavor. And so, they tune into different shows that
they like and they get jumbled up sometimes and go, "You know what? You guys really really laid a stinker this
week." Yeah. And we're like, we don't we don't know what case you're talking about.
We don't cover that one. Please direct that stinker elsewhere. Well, True Crime Garage, what flavor are
we? The drunken flavor. All right. So, tomorrow we we go to the top five. Oh, prepare yourselves for the top five. The
one we just heard, Uni Bomber, episode 482. As the captain pointed out earlier in this episode, we did a four-parter on
Ted Kazinski, the uni bomber. It though, look, the world would have been a better
place had that guy just accidentally blown himself up during the constructions of those bombs in his little little
shack that he was living living in there. Hey, but to celebrate 500 episodes, will you please do us a huge
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Brief Summary

True Crime Garage celebrates 500 episodes by counting down their top 10 true crime trailers and reflecting on their podcast journey.

Key points

Celebrating 500 Episodes. Nick and the Captain celebrate a major milestone in their podcast journey.
The Son of Sam's Confession. A chilling reading of the Son of Sam's own words reveals his dark psyche.
The West Memphis 3 Case. An overview of the infamous case involving the wrongful conviction of three teenagers.
Podcasting Challenges. They reflect on the challenges faced when starting their podcast.
Growth as Podcasters. They discuss their evolution from episode 40 to 500.
The Mad Bomber's Terror. Exploring the case of the Mad Bomber who terrorized New York City.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I am the son of Sam.

A chilling self-identification by the speaker.

4:30WatchNov 7, 2022

Tension

40/ 100Low tension

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