Episode 757: Mommy and Clyde: The Crimes of Sante and Kenny Kimes
- Feb 16, 2026
- 1:06:37
- Full Episode
In the summer of 1998, eighty-two-year-old New York socialite Irene Silverman disappeared from her Manhattan townhouse without a trace. Silverman’s friends were immediately concerned, as it was completely out of character for Irene to leave town without telling anyone. Coincidentally, on the same day Irene Silverman disappeared, authorities in New York arrested Sante Kimes and her son, Kenny, on a charge of check fraud. Unbeknownst to investigators, these two events were directly linked.
In the wake of the arrest of Kimes and her son, investigators discovered a number of links between the mother and son con artists and Irene Silverman that would not only lead to the discovery of Silverman’s body, but also to a years’ long crime spree that included everything from check fraud and impersonation to arson and murder.
In the annals of American crime, it’s rare to find a series of violent crimes committed by a woman. And among those women, it is rarer still to find one so brutal, cunning, and manipulative as Sante Kimes.
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Brief Summary
Ash and Elena discuss the documentary <i>Catfish</i> and the shocking crimes of Santa and Kenny Kimes, including the murder of Irene Silverman.
Key points
- The Comfort of Catfish. The hosts reflect on the emotional impact of the movie 'Catfish', describing it as a horror movie that evokes a mix of feelings.
- Mysterious Disappearance. After a party, Irene Silverman goes missing, prompting concern from her staff and friends.
- Irene's Eviction. Irene decides to evict Manny before the month's lease is up. Good for her!
- Manny's Disappearance. Manny's disappearance coincides with Irene's, raising suspicions. Is it just a coincidence?
- Kenny Kimes Identified. Detective recognizes the sketch of Manny as Kenny Kimes, a known con artist.
- Santa's Criminal Past. Santa Kimes' history reveals a pattern of manipulation and crime throughout her life.
Episode highlights
- The Comfort of CatfishThe hosts reflect on the emotional impact of the movie 'Catfish', describing it as a horror movie that evokes a mix of feelings.“That movie will give you so many different emotions.”0:52Feb 16, 2026
- Mysterious DisappearanceAfter a party, Irene Silverman goes missing, prompting concern from her staff and friends.“It seemed highly unlikely that she would have left without saying anything to anybody.”10:20Feb 16, 2026
- Irene's EvictionIrene decides to evict Manny before the month's lease is up. Good for her!“Good for her.”17:27Feb 16, 2026
- Manny's DisappearanceManny's disappearance coincides with Irene's, raising suspicions. Is it just a coincidence?“It's suspicious that they are gone at the same time.”19:32Feb 16, 2026
- Kenny Kimes IdentifiedDetective recognizes the sketch of Manny as Kenny Kimes, a known con artist.“Oh no, a car thief and con artist.”21:56Feb 16, 2026
- Santa's Criminal PastSanta Kimes' history reveals a pattern of manipulation and crime throughout her life.“By then she had renamed herself Santa.”28:42Feb 16, 2026
- Charges of SlaveryIn 1985, Santa was charged with slavery, shocking everyone involved.“What?”35:41Feb 16, 2026
- Santa's Descent into DesperationAfter her husband's death, Santa's erratic behavior escalated, leading to more crimes.“Wow.”43:41Feb 16, 2026






