Episode 737: December Bonus Episode-Secrets of the S.K. Pierce Mansion w/ Special Guests Sam & Colby | Forensic Files

Hey weirdos. I'm Ash. I'm Elena. >> I'm Sam. >> I'm Colobby. >> And this is Morbid.
>> I always feel so weird when I look at the camera. I'm like, "Hello." >> I know. I'm like, "Hey,
>> hi. [laughter] >> Thanks for having us on again. >> Thanks for coming to be back. It's been
so long since we recorded that episode. [laughter] >> If you're watching, it has been a very
long time for you." So, >> here we are. We can officially announce that we did a haunted investigation.
Another one. >> Another one. >> Another one. It was so fun. [clears throat] >> Completely unlike anything we've ever
done before on our channel, too. >> You guys got a whole different experience. >> I know. That was such an honor when we
actually sat down and you were like, "Okay, so this is what we're doing." And we've never done it before. I was like,
"Okay." >> Our first investigation with you guys, the USS Salem was was a very traditional
thing and a lot of crazy stuff happened. >> But this time it was like, yeah, very
very different. Like we were even kind of thrown off like we're like whoa we don't even know how to do this.
>> Brand new concepts. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> So we [clears throat] went to the SK Pierce mansion and basically your whole
you know like vibe for the night was testing psychics. >> Yeah that's correct. >> So how do you know these psychics? Like
tell us a little bit about the psychics. The whole shebang. >> There were three of them.
>> Yeah there were three of them. So our whole goal of this year of 2025 was to try to kind of push the bar with ghost
hunting. We've done a lot of the same type of investigations, which is really fun. Like there's a lot of different
stories, but we're like, what if there's just different ways to get answers and especially in places like that have
unsolved mysteries? You know, you guys dive into that all the time. And like, you know, there's ways to get answers on
ghost equipment, but what if we could use psychics and mediums as our quote unquote ghost equipment, our tools to
the other side? And so when we were brainstorming like what would be that would be really cool to bring a psychic
like you know what would be even cooler if we had three different psychics that use three different methods of
communication. We see which one works best. >> And then also what if all three of their
answers line up? Wouldn't that >> collaboration like make it so much more believable if we did get an answer? Uh
which is kind of what happened the other night and it was absolutely mind-blowing.
>> I didn't expect that. [laughter] >> Yeah. We wanted to basically like run an experiment where we had like each one of
these individual psychics come in without the other ones around and then so they they weren't influenced by each
other. And so what we did is we actually this sounds really bad. We actually like
blindfolded [laughter] all the psychics and they had no idea like where they were at all. And we had like one
producer on this trip that was helping us out uh with like transporting them like to and from the haunted location.
But yeah, they had zero idea besides like obviously the hotel that they were in. They kind of knew like the area of
like the state that we were in, but that's about it. Um, and then at the way end of the investigation, the end of the
video, we had all of them come together for one final investigation to see if like they were going to maybe contradict
each other or like fight for whose like opinion was right [laughter] or maybe all agree. We didn't know. It was just a
massive Yeah. Seriously, >> I was hoping for that to be honest. like fight fight fight.
>> It was just [laughter] a massive experiment. We were just like really curious about it and thought it was a a
cool concept. >> Yeah, it really is. It was so much fun. >> Yeah. And also, we're going to say this
like a million times during this, but go watch the video because >> Yeah, you got to watch the video.
>> You need to watch it on Sam and Kobe's page. It is >> Thank you. >> crazy. >> When we say it was unlike anything we've
ever experienced before, I was cuz we were sitting at the Longhorn Steakhouse. [laughter]
>> Let's go plug >> and you guys were like asking us like, "What are your thoughts on mediums? Do
you believe? Are you skeptical? I mostly believe and you were super sk like pretty skeptical.
>> Yeah, I'm I'm one of those people that believes like most of them are probably
lying. >> Um and just trying to get money or like you know whatever from it, but I think
they exist and I think there are some that are real. Especially like mediums >> I'm more apt to believe. I think I don't
know why. >> So I went into this like totally I was like three I feel like three we're going
to get like at least one that works. [laughter] And I was shocked. >> We kind of believe the same thing. Like
both Sam and I kind of believe like 85 90% of psychics are all fake just doing it for the money. So yeah, we like
specifically chose the three psychics that you guys met for a reason. Uh the first one was Patty Negri. She's
actually been in the paranormal field field for years and she has experienced sensing ghosts like specifically through
like her hands is what we researched which is why when we were walking around she had her hands out a lot.
>> She did. Yeah. since childhood and she's been on every single TV show you can
even think of. So, she's very very credible. We were like, "Okay, we gota we got to test her. She's been around."
>> Um, and then there was a guy named Mystic Dylan. >> Mystic Dylan five ever. >> Yes.
>> I love Mystic Dylan. >> Insane. He's been going so viral recently just because he does a special
technique called Clarommancy U, which is like throwing objects. He specifically uses animal bones and like other like
totems I think he's Yeah. what he called them. >> Yeah. >> Um and he's able to like throw these
bones onto a table or onto the floor and then depending on how they fall onto like this mat that he had, he's able to
read what's going on in the room like what happened in the past or the future. >> I'm not going to lie, when you told us
that at dinner, I was like, I don't know how that's [laughter] going to work. Like I'm not sure about that one. I went
into that one very >> I'm like as a non-skeepic I might be a little skeptical [laughter] about that.
>> That one is by far the one I was just like there is no way >> this works at all. But I feel like out
of all of the different methods that was the most mind-blowing. >> Absolutely it was.
>> Which we'll get into, but that was like% crazy accurate. >> And then the last was our good friend.
Her name is Python Priestess. She's her name's Ashley. [laughter] But uh >> she's been like our personal not
personal but like she's helped us >> personally as like our spirit guide for the last like 2 three years and her
expertise at least what we found is like tarot >> definitely. Oh my god. And so she we
wanted to bring her last so that it was a familiar face to the channel and that she could help us solve this like
mystery once and for all. And she did. >> She was incredible. >> She just jumped right into it. Was like,
"Okay, where are we going? Let's go." Boom. Yeah, it was wild. >> And that was a little like interesting
too is because we told them absolutely nothing and they l they took off their blindfold as they were walking up to the
SK Pierce mansion. It was kind of just like a all right, we want to see what you guys get. We didn't tell them any
information, you know, we just kind of like had them go find a room, find like the areas that they felt the most
activity and just like went for it. Y >> after they would get something, we would
tell them a yes or no that kind of lines up with the research or not. But it was
really interesting to see like from scratch like literal nothing like blindfold off they're already feeling
and and sensing the things that lined up with the history of the location. You guys have been to that location to ghost
town before too. >> Yeah. We had gone with um Sabrina Kurrin and Payne Lindsay. >> Yeah. And we and it I like these
psychics came from like all over too. They weren't like Massachusetts based. And even if they were, I didn't know
about the SK Pierce mansion until Ash covered it on one of our episodes. I'd never heard of it and I've lived here my
entire life >> and I hadn't heard of it until I think I like Googled like most haunted places in
Massachusetts and it hopped up on a list. >> It's not something you would just know
in like it's not like the Lizzy Bordon house that like is pretty well known and like Salem.
>> Yeah. Like I felt like so them all of them were like, "Yeah, I don't I don't know what this house is." And I was
like, "I fully believe that cuz I wouldn't have known what this house is." Even if you did, like we've gone to this
mansion before, you guys have too, and to recall all the different nuances of the family history and everything would
be impossible. Like we we didn't even know. We had to like [clears throat] restyudy for all this. Uh and so the
fact that they were picking out things that were like so detailed and and it lined up perfectly. It was just really
mind-blowing. Yeah, it was nuts. Also for like the skeptics out there, like yeah, you could say like they knew what
hotel we were staying at, so they can go on their Google maps and like search up
haunted places and make like an educated guess and like study or whatever, >> but then how did the methods that they
were doing line up with everything in the story? That's the thing >> because the tools like Patty's like the
queen of like dowsing rods you guys were saying >> and like her tools were making sense
with Dylan his bones like there was no way he could have thrown them into a perfect alignment for what had happened
there. >> Yeah. Cuz even we could see the story that he that they were showing. That was
the thing that I loved the most that like he wasn't making up like what these symbols meant. Like they made sense for
what they meant [clears throat] and then they would fall in a way that I was like
oh yeah that does say that. like >> you could confirm it yourself. Like he couldn't have faked that.
>> And then with tarot even like with Ashley, the things that were popping up, I know a little bit bit of tarot. So I
was like, "Oh yeah, like that does make sense." And we saw her like shuffling the cards every time like she was not
picking them, you know? >> Right. >> Crazy. It was pretty insane. So yeah, like the whole premise of the video was,
hey, this place is really haunted, so we obviously want like, you know, just ghost hunt in general, but our main goal
was to figure out this unsolved murder. Now, there was this bone that was found in the basement of the SK Pierce Mansion
house, and they think that it was from a 16-year-old girl. It was like a pelvic bone, but they have no idea who that
person was and the killer. Now, the people that have been investigating for a long time have their thoughts on who
they think it could have been, but nothing has ever been confirmed. And so, we're like, okay, what better to do than
get all the psychics to figure out their answer? And if all those things line up,
that is really insane because we were not telling all the information that we got from the previous psychic to the
next psychic. We were independently like finding these answers and we were the ones that were like,
>> you know, >> corroborating with all that stuff. >> Yeah. I kind of feel bad cuz it it kind
of felt like I don't know if you guys got the same vibe, but it kind of felt like each psychic would come in and then
we were just like go like do it go. >> We did. That's the [laughter] thing. Like when you say it like you feel bad,
but they just got right to it, >> you know? >> Cuz like Patty walked in and we were
just like, >> "Where do you want to go?" She was just like, she just like, "Let us somewhere
>> on the spot." Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. Well, she got hit with like a wave when we like when she first walked in,
she literally did like this. >> Yeah. She did like >> Yeah. >> What was funny about um Patty's
investigation was I feel like almost immediately everything started pointing to you, Elena.
>> It [laughter] was like, "Okay, get called out >> right off the bat. And I was like,
great. >> Like Patty kept hearing like want or like something like that. And I was
like, is it like want her [laughter] like I want her? >> Like what is happening? And I kind of
think it was actually. >> Well, I think one of the main things that we like understood about that was
>> they found some sort of correlation with how you looked versus the, you know,
supposed like wife, the first wife of SK. And when later on, like we didn't even know this at the time, like later
on we went and talked to the caretaker and she was like, "Oh yeah, yeah, the first wife of GK had red hair." And
we're like, "What?" >> And he was like, and she like specifically brought that up. She was
like, "He likes your hair." >> I like kept saying that. So when the caretakers confirmed it, I was like,
"Wo." >> And we didn't tell the caretakers anything. We were just like, "Oh, hey,
like what color hair did SK >> We said, what did she look like? Do you" Or we said, "Do you have pictures?" And
she was like, "Oh, we don't have pictures, but like know that she had red hair and we're like, "Oh,"
>> and what's crazy about that too is like SK remarried pretty shortly after like
his first wife Susan passed away um to a much younger wife, like 30 years younger.
>> Yeah, he was getting it, >> Ellen. [laughter] And so, yeah, it's it's rumored that SK
like did that for potentially the wrong reasons. And that's why he might have been drawn to you [laughter] as a
redhead cuz he >> you like reminded him of his first wife. It's crazy. >> It's so creepy. likes the younger girls
and you're just a couple hundred years younger. >> Just a couple [laughter] hundred, you
know, >> I mean, you seem to be targeted like almost the entire [laughter] night.
>> Yeah, you really >> honestly I thought it was when Patty did it, I was like, okay, like this is
funny. And then afterwards, I was like, that's not going to happen again. Like I
thought that was just a Patty thing and maybe that would just be the end of it. I was like, the other ones aren't going
to confirm that. And then it just kept one of them. I was like >> like is this real? Like what is going
on? [laughter] Even to the point of like at the end of the night like when we were like sitting in the basement, you
got >> touched, right? >> Yeah. So, we were This was um with Ashley. >> Yes. >> In the basement and we were sitting in a
circle and she was doing the tarot and I had my jacket on, like my leather jacket, and I I was just like paying
attention to what she was doing and it felt suddenly like someone like grabbed my shoulder.
>> And you were you kind of explaining that it wasn't just a tap or a pull. It was a
>> grab. A grab. >> Yeah. firm grab and I've never ever felt anything like that. Like I haven't been
poked. I haven't had any of that stuff happen. >> When you had such a visceral reaction
like you jumped and you were like [laughter] went into like fight mode and oh god
>> immediately I'm like I'm ready to punch it >> cuz it wasn't it was not like a brush or
anything like that you could be like oh maybe like my hair or something brushed against it was like fullon like
something did this to my shoulder like a >> in that moment Ashley so casually was
like well it's cuz you look like her. Yeah. And she was saying like, "You look like the girl who we believe was killed
in in the house or near the house." >> I was like, "Damn." >> And she said it so casually. She was
like, "Oh, yeah. Well, like you look like her." Yeah. That was scary. >> And once again, we didn't tell Ashley
what we had found previously. So, she was just coming up with that on her own accord.
>> Yeah. And she just It was so spooky when she she just turned and looked at me was
like, "Cuz you look like her." I was like, "Oh, [laughter] >> what?" >> It was wild. Yeah.
>> And I think Dylan had already said something to that effect, too. >> He later he was like he was like, "I
knew she had red hair. I said that." Like he was like, "I was going to say that earlier." So, yeah, it came to him,
too. >> Yeah. I'm trying to think just so we can go chronologically like more of the
things that Patty had said while we were there. >> Mhm. >> Well, she we initially got that we were
talking to SK. So, I think that's where we first got um >> You felt like we weren't though. So,
that's the thing. when we got down to the basement and we kind of started to learn like more about the family dynamic
and that kind of thing. I feel like whoever we were talking to, like whoever was, you know, like doing the dowsing
rods with Patty, I think they were pretending to be SK >> cuz it felt a little the more it kept
pointing at you, like it felt creepier. And SK didn't seem to have like a super like nefarious spirit, like he seemed
pretty chill. >> Yeah. >> And it didn't really sound like he was involved in the murder or anything like
that. So I was like, could it have been like Frank because he liked how you looked?
>> And then like >> I hate that a lot. >> Do you know what I [laughter] mean though?
>> I would have rather SK. >> I just feel like SK wouldn't have been as creepy. >> Yeah.
>> So for a little backstory, like the Pierce family, like SK was the guy that built the house. He had two different
wives and he built the house for the first wife, but she died immediately and they moved in. And so he had one one
oldest son with the first wife and then two more sons. >> And so the three sons were most likely
the three suspects of the person that would like have killed somebody in the house because the family line lineage
still owned the SK mansion while this murder occurred. Yep. And yeah, so there apparently was a female that was not in
the family that was found in the basement uh buried under like a kill or a furnace or something like that. So
basically like the whole >> the whole gist of it was which family member and why would they kill this
random person and and what's the relation to the family? >> Yeah. And they were they were step
brothers too, like you were saying. Like the the first wife had the just the oldest son, but then he remarried and it
was the other two. And so there was already kind of some conflict. When Ellen died, everybody had to figure out
who gets the mansion. Yeah. >> And so obviously Frank being the oldest son is just like
should be me. But Steuart and Edward, Edward's the youngest, >> also were fighting over it, but Edward
ended up being the one who who got it. And not to make things more confusing, but after um yeah, after like he like
acquired it, I guess like in the early 1900s, like 1902 specifically, it turned into like a boarding home
>> to where now not just it's family history is there, but now there's a bunch of random people just using this
house. >> Debauchery [laughter] from random things like whatever. >> Yep. Yeah. All the things.
>> All the things. >> Yeah. So I think what's so interesting is how complex that lineage is and
everything like that like how many family members are a part of it versus not versus how many wives all these
different things. It just makes it so much more impressive how accurate all these readings were from the psychics
>> like yeah talking about SK and all this stuff is really really interesting but
then uh one other aspect which I think we were getting at is it said that like 17 spirits are are haunting this house
>> but a lot of people believe that there is some sort of nonhuman spirit in the
basement which could be >> like you said maybe tricking people and like saying I MSK and stuff like that,
which uh obviously just throws a wrench and everything. >> Yeah. Well, then Patty was saying too,
like there's a what was she calling him? Like a creeper. She was saying there's a
creeper and like he keeps like poking his head out and then like follow but he's following us but he doesn't want us
to know. >> So that threw me for a loop too. I was like I don't know. I just my like
intuition is saying like it wasn't SK >> that was victimizing [laughter] you. >> Damn. You know,
>> which is crazy cuz if it was the the murderer who was like victimizing and that's so like messed up. Yeah. Because
he did he told us he was just like like if it was him he was just like it's somebody in the family but I can't tell
you who. >> Right. >> Which would make sense cuz he wouldn't want to rat himself
>> and he's like maybe SK like he probably knows in the afterlife but he wasn't alive whenever this happened. So
>> yeah. Correct. Exactly. >> It is interesting. Which means, do you think the creeper that Patty saw was
this negative entity instead of the murderer? It was just like a a negative >> Well, I think she was saying that he was
a human spirit and he was just like lingering around to see if we're going to figure it out. I think she was saying
it was one of the stepbros. >> Interesting. >> But >> so, do you feel like it was Frank like
trying to see if we were going to figure it out? >> Could have been. >> Yeah. Or it was Frank was the one
answering and the creeper was like Edward or Stewart. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> I hope it was Steuart.
>> Yeah. Steuart doesn't get talked about. >> He's so handsome. >> I think [laughter] that was Edward.
>> No, that was Steuart, she said. Oh, I thought she said Edward. She said that was Steuart. Oh, okay.
>> Yeah, the little picture that we saw. >> I was like, "Oh my god, look at this
man." [laughter] >> Sharp. >> Whoever that was was adorable. >> He was >> um Oh, was I just
>> I could see him just peeking around like you going to figure it out. >> Yeah. Being like, "Hey, my brother was
such an [ __ ] Figure it out. Sorry being a creep." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think it was really really cool
to see what pieces of the puzzle we were able to find out through all different psychics. Yeah.
>> Um and I think the main thing we figured out with uh Patty was this idea of protecting the secret which I think
became a huge core like storyline for the entire thing is like they would not give up the secret because they were
afraid of their image. >> Yeah. Image came up so much. >> Patty kept saying that specific word.
Yeah. went through the rest of the psychics too. They kept saying the image. >> They were like, "Okay, we have this like
really like high-end family and we're the kings of the town. We have this big business. We want to seem like we have
everything figured out and if we had this like turmoil with our family and like some of our like, you know, sons
are bad apples. That's bad." And so it's like, yes, like I'll give you enough that it was in the family, but I don't
want to talk about who it was or or how it went down because I didn't want to sacrifice this like,
>> you know, image they had. >> Right. Right. It's so true, which is really really interesting.
>> And then what's wild too, like kind of like a side note from like that sort of
plot. So we went upstairs and you guys had been to the SK case be SK of Yeah. Pierce mansion before and in a specific
room. There was something traumatic happened [snorts] where she Patty was like, "There's definitely a portal in
here." >> Yeah. And we had already been told there's a portal in there. >> Yeah. So that's on the third floor.
>> It's on the third floor in the back. >> The game room. >> Yep. The billiard's room. And it's where
they used to like, you know, debauch. [laughter] I thought it was interesting. Exactly.
Um Dylan kept bringing up gambling. >> Yeah. And that used to happen in there. >> And that was billiard room, game room.
>> Yeah. Big thing in there. >> Yeah. And there's like a big walk-in closet in that room. And there's like
stories that like really bad things used to happen in that closet, especially with like women that they would bring
into the house. >> Yeah. Cuz women weren't allowed in the room unless they were brought into the
room. So that tells you everything. They weren't there by their own consent, >> right?
>> And when we went um the last time we walked into that room and immediately were like
>> all of us felt off. >> This is off. And then we went in the I think >> I didn't go in.
>> You didn't go in. I went in. I think Payne went in. >> I think Sabrina might >> I think Sabrina went in and all of us
were like >> like this feels yucky in here. I was like I don't want to be in here at all.
Like I just felt like suffocated like you felt like short of breath. >> Yeah. We were all feeling really gross
about it. And I think later we came back to it and it was still like something was off. I think we had like um
something was happening with our light. Remember the camera was like >> Oh yeah.
>> making something happen. >> Yeah. It was something like pain was looking and there was like a white like
>> Yeah. It was weird. >> Yeah. It was very strange and it was only happening in certain places.
>> And so when we came in here with Patty immediately her saying like there's a portal in here.
>> We were like yeah. And then she starts saying like there's good like good energy and bad or like it feels good but
it feels bad at the same time which like makes so much sense >> because there was so much celebration.
>> Well, there's so many men having so many pleasurable experiences in there but
there's a lot of women who are having terrible experiences in there. So it's like when she said that I was like
that's literally what happened in this room. It was like >> every bit 50/50. And I think all three
of them said something about cigars. And I think SK was like big on cigars because they're throughout the house,
but specifically they were smoked in that room. That was interesting. >> All three of the psychics said like, "I
smell cigar smoker. I feel cigar like cigar business. >> I feel cigar [laughter] vibes.
>> Cigar vibes. >> Cigar vibes. Yeah. I remember specifically too like Patty u maybe it
wasn't on the third floor could be wrong but like the second floor she kept being
like it's like hard to >> like breathe and like I just want to like speak but see it sounds like I'm
being like silenced or whatever. It feels like I'm being silenced and so I wonder if that was like her like feeling
the women who wanted to speak up back in the day. >> Yeah, probably cuz it seems like it was
a theme in that house [clears throat] that especially women were silenced. >> Yeah. Or like we got with Patty like
controlled. >> Yes. >> We went up to the third floor. We went to the quote unquote servants room and
uh she got a lot about like, oh, I feel like >> people were silenced, people were
controlled in this room, like they were doing things against their will. >> Yeah.
>> She even brought up like possible like drugged or something like that. Like that kind of feeling.
>> Yeah. She said like um feeling like I'm in an altered state, but like it wasn't
my decision. I think she said >> Yeah. Which is really creepy. >> That was terrifying.
>> And that was where um cuz that's supposedly where like the 16-year-old girl was staying. And I think another
girl, right? Yeah, I think there was two maids, right? That lived in that room. >> Susan and Sarah, I believe. And Susan
was the the 16-year-old girl who was also like a prime suspect or victim. >> Yeah. She thought she might be the
pelvic bone. >> Yeah. The pelvic bone girl. >> And when we were in there with Patty and
she was using the dowsing rods, they like flicked over to you really fast. That was the weirdest exper like one of
the weirdest experiences I've had because I think when we walked in there she was talking about like feeling
pressure in her head and as she was saying it felt it but I was like maybe this is like a placebo effect like I
think I'm just feeling pressure. >> Yeah. >> And then she was trying to talk to whoever was in there and we felt like it
was like a young person and I like I love kids and I I think the last time we were on the USS Salem like I got
followed by I was like I don't know like I'll just say something in my head. I was like, like you're safe here with us.
And um the dowsing rods flicked to me in that moment and she said, what' she say?
Like she just grabbed on to you or like she just jumped over to you and it was like they flicked at me right as I
thought that in my head and she said it. >> Yeah. >> And then she was trying to get more
information and I said something else in my head and she said like she grabbed on
tighter like something like that. >> Multiple times where you're like you're going to be all right. And I think the
second time it was like, "I got you." And after you said, "I got you," it like flicked over and I was like, "Oh,
they're over with you now again." >> It was really interesting. >> It was weird cuz I didn't like feel
anything on my body or anything like that, but having the confirmation of the dowsing rods like flick at me, that was
>> Yeah, cuz how could she have known that? >> Yeah. >> In your head. >> Exactly.
>> My favorite part of the whole Patty investigation was the maant, you know? Oh my god,
>> the mud. It was I felt bad cuz I was like, I'm taking it seriously, but it just sounded so silly that I'm cracking
up on camera. >> I think that's like kind of the point. It's like you're putting so much energy
that it is kind of like light. >> Yeah, you're like releasing all the >> basically we were screaming for like
[laughter] 2 minutes. >> Everyone's downstairs was probably like, "What the?" >> They said it. They were like, [laughter]
"We heard you guys screaming up there." Really? >> That was insane. I've never done
anything like that, but it was cool. It definitely brought up the energy for sure.
>> Yeah, it did. >> And she said that it will like bring more spirits out and it definitely felt
like it did cuz in the beginning it felt like we were kind of only talking to SK
maybe and then the like girl in that room but then when like the rest of the psychics came in, we definitely got more
I felt like. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Cuz we heard some like weird noises like shuffling noises happening. We were
trying to follow it but we couldn't find where it was happening >> which Yeah. full disclosure like there
was um a guide downstairs. Mh. Um, and then for the first half, >> yeah, for the first half, then she left
like during Mystic Dylan. >> Um, but also our producer was bringing the psychics there and back. So, like we
were a little confused at at beginning if like it was that person or not, the guide. But
>> after Dylan left, the noises I feel like they stop going. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Particularly when we were in the fire
room, I think we were like really going and you had texted your producer and you
were like, "Was that you?" And some of it was, but not all of it, you said, right?
>> Yeah. He just said like, "Oh, the owners were just leaving. Like, it should be
quiet now." But that we heard more. >> Yes, there was more like right after that
>> for a long period of time cuz every single time we try to start talking, he was like,
>> "Oh, it was every time Dylan would try to speak that all of a sudden it would
sound like craziness was happening. >> Let's talk about Dylan. This >> Yeah, we got to move to Dylan.
>> Insane. >> First of all, the second he walked in, you and I, I think, like shared a
telekinesis. >> We were both like, I love him." [laughter] >> Like like as soon as he walked in, I was
like, >> I was like, "New best friend unlocked. >> Love him a lot." >> Yeah. His look and his demeanor was
awesome. >> Oh, he's so charming. I love him. >> So, apparently he had studied like a
specific version of Clarommancy and like mediumship in Egypt. >> New Orleans, too.
>> In New Orleans, voodoo and all that stuff, right? >> Yeah. It was it was really interesting.
Something we had never even heard of before, much less like, you know, what are we going if we're going to believe
it or not? And to be quite honest, I was highly skeptical just as we were talking
about this when we first like like talked about this with our uh like creative team like hm is this even a
good idea? Like I don't know if it's >> genuinely possible at all for for this to work. But they assured us that like
the reason why Dylan is blowing up is because his readings are so incredibly accurate. We're like all right well
let's give it a whole point of this video is to test the psychic. like, "Why not? Let's see it." And so we
immediately go upstairs to the wife's room, the second wife's room, Ellen. Um, and they called it the red room,
>> because all of the wallpaper was red. >> And he was like, "hm, let's immediately
do a session right here on on her bed." >> And that, I think, was the highlight of
>> Oh, yeah, >> for sure. >> I agree. >> The first time he tossed everything, I was like, "Whoa." [laughter]
>> No expectation at all. Like, what's going to happen? And he basically got all these bones and totems in in a
shell, I don't know, and then threw them onto the bed onto this map. And within this one toss, he basically explained
everything to a tea about the story of the SK Pierce man. >> Yeah. The pelvis bone that he which he
had a pelvic bone first of all was nuts. >> Like an animal pelvic bone. >> An animal one. Yeah. And it went right
into the center. So it was like the center of our story. >> I was like I just remember like slowly
backing up and just being like, "No. [laughter] like this can't be real. >> And he even had like a totem that had
like, you know, playing card symbols on it that were like the gambling things. He had like a bunch of like little penis
totems. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> He was like something about this murder has to do with sex or something like
that or anything like that. >> And then there was even like a frog on its back and he said like the frog
represented fertility, but because it was on its back it was like >> like >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. something to do with fertility stuff. >> Yeah, that was my favorite part of the
entire night because I was just watching like all of our faces and like I'm [laughter] like hidden in a hoodie. Like
I look over at you two and you're both just like backing away like [laughter] mind blown and like Dylan has no idea
like that we're freaking out so much. He's just like, "Yeah, no." Cuz again, like it's not like he's just um like
pulling this out of nowhere. Like he's he's reading what he threw out and so he's just like, "Well, this looks like
this." And we're just all reacting like [laughter] trying not to confirm. >> There's a lot of uh this is like a
family house with like a lot of spirits that are in the family here, but there was a murder of someone outside the
family you see over here. And it seems like there was Oh, the dice says two. There's two wives and one was much
younger than the other one. And we're like, what [laughter] is going on right now? I can't believe this.
>> It's like the dice. Like, how do you throw a two? >> Yeah. and then be like, "Yeah, there's two
wives. That was >> two eyes." Like >> he said one was more like a matronly energy like older.
>> Yes. >> And then the other one's like more energetic and more like and he's like
youthful and like aged. And we were like And then like off to the corner over here it says like there's one thing
about this house that is like a a message that ISN'T UNCOVERED YET. LIKE >> HE was like like [laughter] a mystery
and we were like that's exactly what we're doing. like what is happening? At this point, we had not told him
anything. And so, it's just like, okay, on your very first throw, you just get all the history right. All right, cool.
Well, [laughter] let's figure this out. >> Let's see what happens. >> And he's like smelling of like smoke.
And he's like, huh? Oh, no. What >> What is that smell? Perfume and smoke or whatever. And Colby, like, oh, let's go
in this this other room. Let's just I don't know, do another >> another reading. And immediately his
like first throw was uh on like the same map, but he put out some some cards with
symbols and like this promise ring was landed right on >> a fire. >> Mhm. >> And what's crazy is in that specific
room out of all of the different things and deaths that happened, that was the only room that someone died because of a
fire. >> Y >> he did not know this. We didn't tell him that anything. And it literally had a
symbol of a guy who died that was not part of the family >> from a fire. >> And it was [clears throat] like,
>> whoa, wait, what am I looking at right now? Like, how is this possible? >> Yeah. Which to your point, like um it's
kind of hard to describe this mat, but there was basically a circle and then like a bunch of what little symbols on
it, right? Yeah. Yeah. >> And then so when he threw all the bones, like most of them, like basically 95% of
them went into like the center of the circle, but then only the ones you were talking about, like this totem pole sort
of looking symbol, and then like a skeleton, then like a promise ring, and then like a a card that had fire on it.
>> Yeah. >> Like which was basically just saying like, "Hey, it's not part of this store
that you guys are looking to find out, but literally on the outside." And then we realized that in uh the time that it
was a boarding house that there was a guy named Enosari who was a mechanic and he one night came home super drunk was
smoking a cigarette and lit himself on fire and actually died of smoke inhalation. So he also suffocated which
makes sense why Patty was like I feel like >> can't breathe. And then Dylan was also
like I smell smoke up here. >> And we all smelled smoke too which was wild. When we walked into that room, it
was like a bonfire smell. Like shot up my nose. >> It was insane. I >> have a deviated
>> septic and I can't smell [ __ ] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> So that was wild. >> Yeah. It was crazy.
>> Yeah. And it was funny too because he was like he you could almost see he was
like h like cuz it was so clear and he was like I'm not necessarily saying like somebody died by fire but
>> like it looks like somebody died from fire. >> We were like no like someone died by
fire. >> Yeah. We were trying so hard not to be like, "You got it." But also [laughter]
like, "Oh, keep going. Keep going." >> Interesting. >> Well, then we went downstairs and that
was when he threw I forget like what we were asking. We were just trying to get like a little deeper into it. And that
was when one of the bones went on the floor and he was like, "Oh, something wants us to go in the basement."
>> And he was like, "I'm not going in the basement." >> We hadn't said like anything to him
about like, "Well, they found a pelvic bone in the basement and like that is ultimately where we're going to end up
tonight." And he like he was like, "I'm not going down there." Like I do not want to go down there. But something
wanted us to. >> And like not to like confuse people, but going back in the video, Patty also in
that same room was like, "I don't know what it is, but there's something like with the fireplace." And so even though
it wasn't in that specific room, the pelvic bone was found, the 16-year-old girl in the furnace downstairs. And so
her and Dylan's findings like actually matched up there. >> Yeah, that was crazy. Crazy.
>> And she said, she was like, "That's I think like where where you're going to find your next clue." [laughter]
>> Yeah. >> And we did, which we did find. >> It was wild how they all like synced up.
It was like we needed multiple parts of the story to really understand like who this person was and and who the killer
was. And it was like little pieces from each investigation all coincided and told the whole story together.
>> Yeah, it really did. >> But since so many things overlapped. >> Definitely. >> Wild.
>> It was crazy. It really was. I'm trying to think if there was anything else like
huge that Dylan said. There was just so many things that were like spot on with him.
>> One thing that I thought was really interesting was a time that he wasn't doing his clarammancy. He was just
walking around at the front and we didn't know this at the time, but uh like he pointed out a little piece of
the history that like apparently was like more recent. and he kept looking over the pianos and he's like, "hm,
there's a guy that really likes to play the piano." And uh he really likes sitting there and just like watching
over people and stuff, but yeah, just a slightly older man. And then like later on throughout the night, we went and
asked the caretaker and she gave us a sheet of paper and right there there's a guy named James that they were seeing
recently that plays the piano and watches over people. And it's like, what? >> He just did that casually. And he was
just walking around >> and that was like such a like random detail of the story, you know, like
>> it didn't have anything to do with the store really. It was just kind of like,
oh, here's another ghost. It was just feeling that off in the distance. It was like
>> how do you like >> that's so specific and and like how how do we know that that's even part of it?
At first, we were like, we haven't heard of anything like that. Lo and behold, we
go and do a little more research. Boom. It makes sense. What? And I do want to like what was interesting about that is
like at that point the caretaker caretaker had left. Yeah. Like when we were upstairs and so we actually found
that just from like an information packet that was on like the kitchen table. Sam and I did a lot of research
on uh this place and had no idea there was like a James character >> that was this piano player until we were
just like we're taking a little break like read through this packet. A James who loves to play piano. There he is.
What? >> Like boom he had said it. >> Crazy. It was funny too cuz at first I was like that doesn't really have
anything to do with anything and then I was like oh [ __ ] it does [laughter] like
oh >> not our specific story but the story of the ghost series >> story. So crazy.
>> Yeah. And that's when that's when we had Ashley come in. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And we took her thing immediately to
[laughter] the basement. She was so down for anything though. She walked in like
you guys introduced us. You kind of told her like what we were doing and you were
like so we're going to the basement. And she was like all right like where is it?
Let's go. Yeah. I was like, "Damn." And she [laughter] just started right away. >> Like she went into it. Yeah. We like
went through all the rooms down there. We get down and immediately in the room where there's the furnace, she goes,
"Mm- don't like that room." Like immediately. >> Yeah. Like she looked at the corner
exactly where the girl supposedly was like buried. And she's like, "I don't like that corner." It's like, "Yeah, how
the entire base. It's like seven rooms downstairs. Huge basement." And she points exactly to it. It's like, no,
right there. Yeah. I'm like, "Okay, >> she also opened a door at one point and just went, "Nope." And then [laughter] I
was like, "What's in there?" >> I know. >> That was like a closet. She didn't tell
us. We just moved on. [laughter] We were like I was like, "You know what? We don't like to know."
>> Yeah, that's fine. [clears throat] >> When she says no to a to a door, you're
like, "All right, I'll respect it. It's fine. We don't have to mess with it." But then she's like, "Okay, well, my
main thing is like rituals. So, you guys want to start off with like a ritual?" and was like, "That's cool. Let's do
it." She pulls out this mat. She's like, >> "Don't look at the mat." >> Oh my god. [laughter] And then all you
want to do is look at the [ __ ] mat. >> I could not stop staring at that. I kept
looking at it and being like, "Stop looking at it." I was so scared that I was going to like go into a trance.
>> I love it though. She was like, "Don't look at it." Yeah. She was like, "Don't
look at it too long." >> If you look at these symbols, you're going to fall into a trance.
>> I know. I was scared. >> Uh, okay. >> It was a giant like circular. It kind of
Yeah. It almost looked like it was like a big like pentagram thing, but it just it was just like a giant like black
circle with like one big symbol on the moon kind of thing. >> Yeah. A bunch of like moon banana
looking things. >> Yeah. Literally. And before she laid it out, she looked at me and she's like,
"What are your signs?" We like told her scared. I was like, "Capricorn." >> She goes, "Okay, you'll be fine." And I
was [laughter] like, "What?" >> Yeah. Like, "Would I not be fine?" Is >> I think she said like, "If you were
water signs, it a problem." And you were like, "I have a water. I have a water moon. Is that all right?" She's like,
"That's cool." >> You're chilling. like, oh my god. >> Yeah, we had never done that sort of I
guess you can call it like exercise or ritual with her before. So that was new to us by the way. I don't know how you
explained that. Um but yeah, she basically had us all stand into the mat and then plug one nostril.
>> Yeah. >> And breathe in times or something. >> Nine times. >> Um and then she after we did that, like
obviously we were like woozy a little bit. Yeah. >> It gets you into like a state for sure.
>> Uh-huh. And then she just said, "Now just start like close your eyes and start saying like what comes to mind."
>> That would have worked really well for you, Ash. Right. >> Yeah. It worked so well that I was like
doubting myself though. Um what happened at one point I got a pain in my side and
my right side and I was like I have a pain and she goes, "What side?" I said, "Right." She goes, "Me too." I was like,
"Okay." And then um I saw So I saw the name Kathleen flash in my head, but I just said I saw the letter K. Cuz I was
like, "I don't want to sound like an idiot if it's like not Kathleen." >> Yeah. So, I was like, "I saw a K." And
she was like, "Okay, you guys saw stuff, too. You saw fingernails." >> Yeah. And I think um like full
transparency, I'm thinking about it now. And I'm like, it might have just been like like the weird little like things
when you close your eyes and you can kind like like kind of see shapes. >> Oh, yeah.
>> You know, if you like close your eyes and you just kind of sit there for a second. I was like,
>> I don't know. It kind of looks like fingers. >> No, but it could be something.
>> But I [clears throat] don't know. >> She might have been like dragged down there.
>> Cuz after that, I was like, I don't see anything. [laughter] >> Yeah. You guys saw some stuff, too. Like
>> Yeah. I wasn't I because I was filming. I was like not doing the whole thing as
much. So I didn't I I don't even think I saw anything else. But you did. >> I remember you said like I see like fire
>> is what and then I saw a tear on a cheek of that but I I can't remember what else
I saw to be honest. It was only like a minute that we were thrown. >> It was rapid fire literally.
>> Yeah. I don't know. >> She asked me how I was with meditation before we did that and I was like I have
no experience with that. I was like I'm the most I'm so stressed. I took a I took a witchy class recently and we
would do like a couple meditations every class so I weirdly got good at it. >> Uh so I do feel like I tapped in for
sure. >> Yeah. You were like >> that is the purpose of it is like she wanted us to become in a trance and like
have that intuitiveness and that's how a lot of these uh investigative methods like occur is like we're supposed to be
in a trance. You're supposed to be open to the spirits communicate through you >> cuz otherwise you will second guess.
Exactly. >> Like I was second guessing myself. And if you're open, it's hard not to though.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, the same thing like like we're talking about too uh a lot is like
kids versus adults. Like if you're like, I don't know, I'm doubting myself all the time versus kids are more open to
things. And so like when you put yourself in a trance, you are like a little more open and susceptible to
influence. And so when you feel something, you really can actually like understand it and go with that gut
feeling as opposed to like turning it off >> and [clears throat] being like, "Nah, we
got to face reality." >> Right. Right. >> Yeah. which was really interesting because what did this K had have to do
with? >> Yeah. So then we moved back into the furnace room and she um Ashley started
doing tarot and we were really trying to determine a name and we hadn't we had a
name at first that we thought it was. >> Well, she said she got a gut feeling that was Catherine.
>> Catherine, that's what it was. So we asked the tarot and the tarot said no. And then I was like okay like I'll I'll
put myself on the line here. Was it Kathleen? And she goes yes. And I was like, that was like a crazy moment cuz I
was like, "Oh, wow. I should have said that back there." >> Cuz that was the original thing that you
saw, not a Kathleen. >> I saw Kathleen like in like flash in my head, but it's also my grandma's name
and we've been taking care of her. So, I was like, "Maybe I'm like influence somehow."
>> Maybe. >> Yeah. You were second guessing, >> but I was Yeah. >> So, she was like, "Yes, it is."
>> So, we confirmed that the girl who was like possibly murdered and thrown down
there was Kathleen. >> Which is really interesting. different potentially upstairs. But yeah, to kind
of like paint a picture for like the people like listening, >> um we didn't know that you could just do
yes or no tarot. But yeah, she still used the entire deck and then with intention we
would just ask the question. Any of us could have asked the question and she like put down a bunch of cards and still
was able to like flip a certain one that was like yes or no. >> So it was like direct.
>> That was crazy. >> What was it? It was like she said the major arcana was the yes or no and then
when we wanted to get more specific she put like the full deck in and she had this cool thing where like she lays out
the cards and then she tops them on one another and then she flips them which I was like that's so cool.
>> Yeah. And there was one point where like I noticed she like she went to grab one
and it like stayed and she grabbed it. She and she literally said don't block me and then grabbed it and I was like
you tell them. >> Yeah. >> I was like good for you. She was like she's awesome at that. He's like, "No,
I'm not going to take any bullshit." [laughter] Like, "You got this." >> And that right there in that circle is
where you got touched. >> Yeah, that's where I got. And I I almost second guessed myself of like, "Am I
just being freaked out?" But it was so strong >> when you jumped. >> And I made like a like a visceral
movement of it that I was like, I need to say, "What just happened?" [laughter] >> And Ashley said, she was like, "What
just happened?" Like she caught it. >> See it? Yeah. >> It was crazy. >> And then we all like set more
intentions. We were like, you cannot touch us. I got so weirdly protective of you in that moment. I was like, "Don't
touch her. her. And actually in the other room when we were doing the meditation,
>> she said something about brownish red hair. >> Yeah. >> Like the she had already and I clocked
it cuz I was like, "Damn, that's the third one that has said that." >> So all three psychics called out the red
hair. >> All of them did cuz I made sure to like remember that. Cuz then when she brought
it up again when I said I got touched and she was like, "Well, cuz you look like her." I was like, "Oh, you did
already say that." >> I'll never be over the way she was like, "Yeah, well like you look like her."
Yeah. >> I was just like, "Oh, >> so casual, like as if she just knew." It's like, "What?"
>> He's talking about [snorts] the victim, though, right? >> Yeah. >> So, that means, just so it's not
confusing, uh SK Pierce's first wife had red hair and this 16-year-old girl had red hair.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And that's why thinking that it's not SK upstairs with Patty like you're saying,
and it's actually >> the guy who did it. >> Mhm. >> That's why I thought that. >> Exactly. Once we got to that. So that
means that would mean his this we're getting into mommy issues here. His mom had red hair and his mistress did.
>> Well, that makes sense because to kill you usually have mommy issues. >> Oh, [laughter]
so did you just give away who the two if you guys remember? >> Yeah. I mean that's what we
>> I mean we're about to be there. Yeah. Yeah. So we thought >> some of us thought it was Edward, right?
>> I thought it was Edward. >> You thought it was Edward. I initially felt Frank.
>> The youngest. >> You felt Frank. And the reason why we got that is because Patty originally had
confirmed that it was part of the family, but [snorts] it wasn't SK. >> And we knew it was a girl that was
murdered and we got from Dylan that it was a lover or a mistress. So we were like, "Okay, so
>> if there was a murder, it had to be a guy and it had to be a part of the family that lived at the house." So
there's only really three >> suspects at that point. Yeah. >> And so that's why we're at down to like
those two. >> So we asked if it was Edward, it was a no. We asked if it was Frank and it was
a yes. And that's actually interesting because that goes back to something Patty said when she was saying like she
wasn't sure if it was one of the brothers. She felt like it was like a distant family member. But I almost
wonder if she got that feeling because like SK built the mansion for his wife, but then she passed away and like barely
lived there. And then he married Ellen and had two kids. So that was kind of like a new family. and Frank was on the
outskirts of that. >> So, I do wonder if that's why Patty got that feeling. >> The step brothers,
>> he's outcasted. >> Yeah. And he also didn't get any like partaking in like the mansion in the
city. So, it's like, okay, he's also outcasted there. >> That's interesting. >> Yeah. Damn.
>> Then we started diving deep into like, okay, well then who was Frank as a person? And this is when we stopped the
yes or no questions and actually started getting details and every single one was
like, this guy sucks. >> [laughter] >> literally it was like the lovers in reverse.
>> He's a [clears throat] cheater. He has like, you know, just a bad past. He got
into trouble a lot. Uh which is really really interesting because the beginning Patty was saying that she believes that
whoever did it, whoever had killed this girl had a past, >> maybe killing again, but definitely a
troubled past where they they had, you know, dabbled and maybe got in trouble with the law, those types of things. So
again, another overlap of the multiple psychics >> and that he had like chances to be a
better person along the way, but he chose not to. >> That was interesting. >> And then we got kind of into the motive
for killing. And we actually I think we asked um Kathleen, did you did whoever this was know you were pregnant? And she
said no, they didn't. >> And that basically we found out that it seemed like she was just going to make
their relationship public. >> She was going to expose it to the wife. She was going to expose it to the wife
and that's when they came up with this plan to murder her. >> And going back to Dylan, he he threw the
frog on its back >> which is fertility like symbol. >> It's all makes sense. >> All of it does. He kept saying like
there's a dark romance here. Like there's some kind of dark dark romance. Like I don't.
>> So with Patty we understood like who the killer was. It had to be part of the
family and that there was some sort of like darker entity there. And then with Dylan, we understood like the the nuance
of the the killing, like it was a mistress who like, you know, got found out by the wife. And then with Ashley,
we found out the name and then like how it all went down. So it's like all the different pieces of the puzzle with
three different psychics. It was really interesting. >> And they never met each other. We have
to say that to that point. >> Yeah. >> That it was wild. And then we ended it on
method in the basement with all of them. Yeah. >> Yeah. That one I'm so interested to
watch back. >> I'm so interested too cuz we were blindfolded and had headphones [laughter] on.
>> So I was like I don't know what happened. >> Yeah. Colby and Ash did like had the
actual like headphones on. >> Yeah. The method is about sensory deprivation. So not only were they
blindfolded, they also couldn't hear anything and all they were hearing was uh this the static of a spirit box go
through and possibly like some some words through the radio. And so you didn't understand our whole
conversation, but me and Elena and the three psychics were asking questions and it was a fullon conversation that you
guys were collaborating on. It wasn't like you were telling a different story than Colby. [clears throat]
It was like you it was like Colby would say something and then Ash would follow up and everything would make sense
together. >> It was shocking. >> The only thing I ever heard was just YOU GUYS GOING, "OH, [laughter] LIKE I
COULDN'T hear Colby. I couldn't hear like the questions you were asking. I just heard like I was like, "Oh, damn."
Like they're freaking out. [laughter] Cuz at one point you said stop and then Colby said recording.
>> That's so cool. >> And we were like oh. And then I think at one point you said like stop and he said
now. >> I got so many stops at the end specifically. >> Yeah. And then bye. It was just saying
bye. >> You said something about like time and then you said like eternal. >> That was the weirdest one because like
it was the same idea that you both were just like piggybacking off of each other
back and forth. It was like >> like time forever eternal forever >> and you just kept going back and like
different words for like forever. It was like forever always eternal never ending
like and you you each one of you would do one and I was like how is [laughter] this happening?
>> How did you feel during that when that was all happening? >> I felt like um I was kind of like in
like a little bit of a trance like my head down a little bit and yeah I just kind of like a dream state.
>> Yeah. It felt like I felt weirdly almost like I was like spinning >> but I w like I wasn't dizzy if that
makes sense. >> Right. Yeah. Like almost like a drowsy kind of I'm not here right now.
>> Yeah. It was heady for sure. It was weird. >> And at one point one of you said like
you're mine and then the other one said like like repeated it or said something similar to it
>> and we [laughter] kept trying to get like what that we were like who is going
>> so fast that I like don't remember the words that came up but I mean, especially when you don't know what they
were answering. But what was really interesting about that whole thing was >> u when we were talking to at the first
half, it was like, "Oh, I keep my secret." Those types of things like I don't want this stuff out. The main gist
of our conversation was like, you know, now we figured it out like what's going to happen? It was just like no, like
don't do this, like get out. Like it was like really like >> again protecting the image. The image
always protecting the image. interesting is like 34 the way through it kind of changed energies. It was
almost like something else came in and the psychics were like >> this is a little darker and that's when
you were like you're mine. It was like oh god okay [laughter] messing with this god
>> it's messed up. >> So we think like we made contact with not only the Pierce family but also
whatever is said to be this like non-human entity in the basement which is really interesting. The psychics were
actually like freaked out about this. >> And all their things were going crazy. Like they were doing a pendulum and like
the dow like they were doing all kinds of things doing. Yeah. A bunch of tools. >> That's great. I'm so excited to see it.
>> I know. I can't wait to see that. >> I can't wait to watch that. >> I told Drew that when I got home, too. I
was like, I can't wait to show this to you. >> I know. Cuz I was like, you didn't
[laughter] get to see it. Like it was crazy. >> I know. >> It was funny cuz like they all the
psychics like obviously are very very into all this. They live and breathe the paranormal like just as much or more
than when we do. And all of them were like, "We have never seen an ess's method like this."
>> They all said it. They were like, "The fact that they were like intelligently
kind of peggy backing off of each other is like not something that happens." >> They were like walking away in awe. And
at the end, I think it was four or more times you guys said stop and they were the ones that were like, "Uh, guys, uh,
we were telling us we should stop the psychics." >> We're like, "One [laughter] more
question." >> Please. >> No. I remember toward the end I was getting a little freaked out because it
just kept saying stop and I was like >> you said it a few times >> and the voice that was coming through
was like stop like scary. >> Yeah. >> And it was getting more intense every time. So I was about to tap out when
whoever tapped me and I jumped out of my skin with whoever tapped [laughter] me.
>> Oh yeah, my bad. >> No, it's all good. But it was Yeah, that was crazy. It was a wild one. They the
spirits definitely did not want us to talk about this secret, but I don't know if that was I don't know who exactly was
saying don't tell the secret, but what they were okay with is they were like, "Okay, if you think that Kathleen, this
this spirit that might be still there that had a, you know, pretty rough ending to her life, wanted to leave this
place, you guys could help her >> escape." And so we decided, let's end the night. um like let's cleanse
everybody in there and then we'll have Ashley who's like practiced in like getting rid of spirits and letting them
move on like do some sort of like ritual like a cleansing ritual to let the spirit go which I think was pretty
beautiful. >> Yeah, it was really really cool. She did a giant banishing ritual. It was
probably like 4:00 a.m. at this point. >> Yeah, we left at like 3:45 I think. >> Mhm. Like our producers took like
everybody else like back home. You guys drove which is great. But like um yeah, this was insane.
>> This is funny. >> So [ __ ] funny. >> And we don't even know this. >> Yeah, we have no idea anything.
>> Ashley told us that it was against like her code and her like um order, I guess
you could say, for us to like include like the audio cuz it was so like crazy of this banishing ritual of what she was
saying. >> Okay. >> Um but she let us film it. >> Uhhuh. And basically Sam was filming and
I was tasked with holding like another sort of shell thing with a bunch of like I don't even know what it was like an
herb in there and then was pine needles. >> Yeah, pine needles she gave you and also
something else. >> Yeah, I don't know. It was like a whatever it was like like a big herb or
whatever that would help banish um >> yeah, Kathleen, I guess. Or like save her. Um and
>> banish is the crazy. [laughter] >> Get out of here. >> Get out. Help her. [laughter]
Uh but then she also there was like a uh little rock like in the middle of it that she was like and then at the end
you're just going to stick we I had like a flame and like kind of like a punk or
whatever. Um and she was like you're going to stick that into the rock and it's going to like make a little boom.
[laughter] >> Oh my god. I would be freaking out. >> That's how we ended. >> She just described it as like a pop.
>> She's like don't don't worry. It's not even not crazy but just pop >> like a little pop. And so I was like
okay like sounds good. I'm just going to light this herb and then pop it at the end. And so we were there for like
probably 5 minutes and she's doing like reading from a book and like >> which was very intense by the way
screaming into the furnace and it was like really intense. >> Even when she blessed us I was terrified
cuz she like blessed us so that nothing would follow us home and even that was scary and I got holy water in my eye.
>> Oh no. [laughter] >> I was so thankful for it though. >> I was so thankful. >> Your eye is protected.
>> I know we're good over here. Um, but yeah, without giving away like what she she said or whatever, uh, for
her sake, um, basically it was my turn to light this thing on fire. [laughter] >> Oh, no.
>> Um, and I was trying to do it and I couldn't get it to work. I I had like the pumpkins [laughter] and I was like,
and she was like, "Go over. >> Come on. We're doing a ritual here. >> Damn it. Damn it. Come on." And she was
like, "Uh, like whoever we were talking to like like doesn't want you to do it, I'm going to do it." So I was like,
"Okay." She grabs it from me and then obviously first try she does it. This thing did not.
>> It's not a pop, dude. [laughter] Explosion. >> Oh my god. >> This was like a like it like went up in
flames for like five [laughter] seconds. >> You were prepared. It was like Colby is
going to freak out with this. >> She was going to make me do that. >> Picture a flare. Like a like a road
flare. Like that's how intense it was. [laughter] >> And you're like, >> "Yeah, >> we house."
>> I know. We got this on camera. We We're still debating if we want to even like
include this in like the the main channel video or not. So, this could be something that's just exclusive for you
guys. We don't know. >> Oh god, I'm dying to see this. >> I cannot [laughter] wait.
>> Uh I know the camera was pointing at me cuz Sam was filming. Um smoke just went
everywhere and I look up and I'm like [laughter] >> the smoke detectors were right there.
Even when she had the incense going, I was like nervous about that. >> And so you guys can imagine what
happened next. >> They went off. Every alarm in the entire house started beep. [laughter] It was
like fire. >> It was blaring loud all through all three levels of the house. >> Did like the caretakers come?
>> Nobody came. [laughter] Like the fire department didn't show up. Like nobody came.
>> How did you turn them off? They just turned off on their own. >> We ran upstairs and there was like a
panel that said fire control or something like that. So we were trying to click reset but it wouldn't work.
>> Stop. >> And so we went and we uh we just ran around the basement. We found a fan and
turned it on and then like we're was just fanning the fire >> smoking the smoke >> and yeah it eventually like after like
probably 5 10 minutes >> it was yeah at least 10 minutes. >> That must have been so overwhelming too
cuz they're so loud. >> That was my fear with the incense because I was looking up and I'm like if
those go off I'm going to lose my [ __ ] mind over >> stimulating over stimulated and I'm
going to be like get me out of this basement. >> It was so loud. I've never seen, and
Ashley, if you're listening, sorry about this. It's just so funny. Like, I've never seen like Ashley so like scared.
She looked at me and she was like, "What do we do?" >> Yeah. >> And I was just >> She like sprinted upstairs.
>> We're like, "Okay, we're just don't panic." Like sort of a thing cuz it was kind of like a what do we do? These
won't shut off. We thought the fire department was going to >> Oh my god. >> Can you imagine?
>> So, did you finish Did you get to finish the ritual? >> Um, it was done like that.
>> That was the end [clears throat] of it. >> So, you finished with a bang? Yeah,
exactly. [laughter] >> I was She was like, "I'm out of here." >> That was a big deal.
>> She's like, "I'm out of here." And you guys should, too. [laughter] >> Get out.
>> That's so funny. >> That was it. Like, we did our own thing afterwards and left the house. That was
it. >> That is bonkers. I'm dying to see that. [laughter] >> I know. >> It's just like if 4 in the morning and
three people are running around frantically like, "What do I do? WHAT DO I DO? IT'S SO [laughter] loud there."
>> That's so funny. Cuz especially being in the basement, that would have sent me
into orbit. Like >> I probably would have like climbed out the the barred windows, like figured a
way out. >> I was so on edge in that basement. Like that basement did not feel good.
>> It's creepy, especially after being touched in that basement. If those alarms went off, I think I would have
died. I would have just went into cardiac >> 4:30 a.m. You guys saw the street. It
was kind of like a semi busier street. >> Yeah. >> In a small town. And so we were like
afraid that everybody around there could like hear. It was loud. Oh my god. Damn.
>> We're good. >> Cleansed as well and and dipped out of there. So hopefully Kathleen is good.
>> I know. I hope so. I'm interested to see like if the caretakers like experience
anything >> Yeah. >> like different makes it feel like Yeah. different. That makes it feel like she's
moved on. >> Yeah. We'll see. >> Cuz Ashley's cleansing felt like it worked cuz I feel like I was followed.
>> I thought I was going to come in the house cuz it was 5:00 a.m. at that point. And it was like pitch black in my
house and it's like dead quiet and I'm like now I have to walk upstairs in like the pitch black [laughter] and like I'm
scared. I wasn't even freaked out. It was weird. >> No, I was just going to say it's so
funny cuz usually when we get home from things I like stay up a little bit longer and kind of like
>> decompress >> decompress and like I'm freaked out usually and like on edge. I was not at
all. >> No. >> In fact, you slept for 12 hours. >> Yeah. [laughter] I literally slept a you
knock. I got home at 5:15. I ate some spaghetti. I went upstairs and I slept until 400 p.m. Drew was like, "Are you
dead?" [laughter] Like, "No, >> I was just the goose." >> I chugged some water and then got woken
up an hour later by my youngest. [laughter] >> I was like, "Damn." >> But you went back for a little while.
>> I did. John was like, "Go to sleep." >> Yeah. >> How did that uh like change the way that
you guys think about psychics? >> I'm still a firm believer. >> Okay. [laughter]
>> Yeah. There we go. I think I still feel the same way where it's like most of them are I think not right. But I think
we got we got the ones like I was like wow how did we manage to grab three that like cuz they just
>> they made so much sense all their stories it just didn't feel put on at all. >> Like when we every single one after we
left them or they left us I was like holy [ __ ] like that person was crazy. Like when we left Ashley at the end, I
was like, >> Ashley's is like the coolest girl I've ever met. I was like, she's such a
badass. >> Just like opening up of her, I was like, damn. >> Yeah, she's like opening her book and
like reading in other languages. And then the blessing, she's just like saying all these songs like you're the
coolest person ever. >> I was so impressed by that. >> Awesome. And she's like accurate 100% of
the time. Like all the tarot that we've done in previous videos with her >> all come true.
>> I know. I want her to like come do a tarot. >> I know. I'm like Ashley, come back.
>> Yeah, you should. >> All of them though. We were like, "All of them. I loved them before."
>> They were all great in their own ways. Yeah. >> Totally. >> We were talking about this on the way
over, but in terms of psychics, would you guys if you knew like let's say like all these psychics are real, would you
want to know your future? >> I'd want to know some good things, but I wouldn't want to know like when I'm
going to die or anything like that. >> What do you think your question would be if you got like one question about your
life from like these psychics? >> Cuz I don't think I would want to know anything.
>> No. Nothing. >> No. I just want to >> You just want to live. >> I think it's playing God a little bit.
I'm I'm Christian, so I'm like >> I got >> I just don't want to like I just want to
kind of take it as it comes. So I don't I think if I know I'm going to be crazy like I'm going to be like trying to
prepare for it or trying to make something happen or >> But yeah, I don't think I would want I
think I would just >> I'm trying to think of what the question would be. I know one question is like
this is like two truths in a liila again. >> I'm [laughter] like hold on. >> So I mean if if you don't want to know
maybe certain things maybe asking like what's one thing I could I could change about my future or something that like
>> you need to prepare for or something. >> Yeah. >> Or like what's the happiest like what's
a happy thing that's going to happen in the future? Just like I want to know one
good thing >> one good thing later in life I can look forward to or something. >> Yeah. Like that would be nice to know.
>> Yeah. But I think a lot of real psychics and mediums, like it seems to be like a
thing among them, like the more accurate they are, they'll tell you if I'm going
to tell you anything, I'm going to tell you the good and the bad. Like you can't
pick. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> Like my husband's family, like they're like one of his like great great aunts
was like a well-known psychic and like helped in police investigations and stuff in Massachusetts.
>> She's the way she was born. >> Yeah. There there's this like old wives tale or like some lore with psychics
that if you're born with like a veil of like almost like ectoplasm [laughter] >> on your face like you you're born like
veiled almost like there's >> like there's like goop in your face >> that that means you are like you have
the gift and she was born that way >> and she and she would only tell you everything. So she would say like you I
won't tell you like you can't cherry pick. >> I won't tell you anything if you're not
willing to hear everything. >> It's good that she'd tell people that up front though before they like sat down
and got into it and she's like well and you're going to die in 3 days. >> So his grandmother was like yeah I don't
want to know anything like I don't want to hear that. >> But like some people wanted to hear
things and the things came true. >> It's kind of like a mental [ __ ] like I just don't want to know. Like I'd
rather just live my life. >> That's the thing. I just want to it's going to happen anyway, you know?
>> Exactly. So, might as well not like worry about it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Exactly.
>> It's hard to choose if you would want to know or not. >> Yeah. I don't think >> I feel like if you had to know
everything versus nothing, definitely know nothing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But I feel like if I cherry pick a a
question, like that would be interesting. >> I agree. Yeah. You know, >> for sure.
>> Yeah. If I could cherry pick, I would do that question. Like, what's one really
great thing that's going to happen? [laughter] >> Does Ashley, she tells you the good and
the bad or >> Yeah. >> Uh yeah. Um, >> we've got some tarot readings that are good and bad.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Not going like too personally in in this, but when I met
you guys, I had cancer. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. I had cancer. And so, like my I don't obviously I'm not like expecting
you guys to remember this, but my face was really swollen. I was like dealing with like a lot of like acne, skin
issues, and I I've never like dealt with that in my entire life. And so, something was wrong. Like my body was
reacting and I had no idea what was going on. And the month that I got diagnosed, which was in January of 2023,
um yeah, or was it December? No, January. January of 2023. Um Ashley came over for the first time, did a tarot
card reading, and was just like, "This looks really bad." Like you're about to go through like one of the scariest
moments of your life. >> Holy [ __ ] >> I knew that you had gone through that, but I didn't realize it was like when we
met you. That's crazy. >> She said that before weeks before >> said that was going to happen.
>> Weeks before. Yeah, >> the next 6 months was like a horrible like >> scary experience, but yeah, for both of
us. >> What was wild is she called it for 6 months. She said it'll be about the next
half a year. >> Wow. >> Until you're better. And you were >> cancerree. >> Cancerree. Halfway through 2023.
>> Yeah. Like June like announced in July, but like May Juneish I was cancerree.
And so, yeah, that's why personally I'm like, I'd rather not know. You know what
I mean? Yeah. How did you feel hearing that before realizing you were sick? >> I Sorry, Ashley. I didn't know if I uh
believed it. I was >> Yeah. I like, you know, I was like, "Okay, whatever. That could be like cool
for like the YouTube video or whatever." And then like my life started unfolding
literally two weeks later. >> And um yeah, I was like, "Whoa, this or at least like she is real." Um, and like
ever since then I was like, "Okay, I'll do tarot card readings and stuff for videos and like to talk about like ghost
hunting and stuff like that, >> but not for personal stuff. >> I [laughter] don't like doing it
personal anymore. That's a lot to take in." And especially when it comes true, it's like, okay,
>> I don't want to know. I'll just cross that bridge [laughter] when I get there.
>> I'm good on that. >> How do you feel, Sam? Are you like doing them only doing tarot only for videos or
will you do it personally, too? I've never gotten any psychic reading or anything like that outside of the video
thing, but I'm okay with doing it in videos. I mean, when we did our uh series for our school where we stayed a
whole week at at our school, we actually had Ashley come out and read tarot about
the school and our process of opening that for ghost investigations. And what was crazy is everything the good and the
bad uh was correct as well with that and even down to weird things like business
licenses and things like that. She was like discussing like how that process is going to work and it played out exactly
how she expected it and I was like what like how do you know these things? It's really really wild.
>> Yeah. She was saying like specifically like she was like um there's a principal
entity here which we had already known and like investigated and stuff like that and told us exactly like yeah he's
a he's not evil he's not a bad guy but he's very strict and cares a lot about like his his school and so when you guys
take over you guys are going to have some like issues with like licensing and like the the city around it and and we
did like on the back end everything is great now. Um but she predicted that and we didn't even know that was going to
happen till like two months later. How would you ever know? >> Crazy. >> She Well, and one thing that you'll see
too that we didn't even mention was we had in the beginning of the SK Pierce um investigation, we had asked for a word.
>> Oh, we didn't even touch on that. >> And Ashley especially, the word was ri. And
>> we just did like a random word generator, too. It's not even like it was planned beforehand.
>> And we asked her specifically, is there like a word that the spirits are telling
you? And she she just asked for how many letters >> and it was three letters obviously. And
how many threeletter words are there in English? A billion. >> And she immediately starts doing the
tarot cards and she throws one down and says R. >> And I was like, what are the odds of
that? >> And then in the middle she was saying I. >> Yeah. >> And I we were all like [laughter] I was
like, is she about to say ri right now? >> I would have lost my [ __ ] >> And I think she was like unsure of the
last one. But I was like, I feel like you know it. I feel like you know it, but something's trying to like scramble
you or something. >> Rig or something like that, but rib. >> What are the odds? >> How
>> that she got R and I out of >> all. That's insane. >> Yeah. >> Like that blew my mind.
>> Even just the R would have blown my mind when she went to the eye. I was like,
"What the fuck?" Like >> even Patty though, when she walked in, she grabbed her stomach and she started
talking about her belly >> and I was nervous about to say riing at you guys like as soon as she like got
that. I was like, "What? What part of your body? Uh [laughter] >> cuz she was like right I don't know like
right here. I was like really crazy. >> Yeah, that blew my mind. >> We're still also just full disclosure
like debating whether we are going to put that in our channel or not. So that could be an exclusive. Um but yeah, it
is really really cool just for people to know that like we did that experiment. Yeah, it was it was like a personal
extra test cuz like obviously the main goal was understanding the the the unsolved mystery, but it was really cool
to like have this like >> uh isolated test with the spirits that had nothing to do with the house at all.
What they could pick up and that Ashley thing like >> I was I don't know when she was like R I
I was literally shaking. >> Oh god, what is happening? What is happening? like B. [laughter]
>> So close. >> It was really amazing actually. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it was incredible. But
>> you need to see it all >> because this does not even do it slightly justice. >> No, there's plenty of things that are
just on the video. >> You can see the bones rowing like that. That's >> our facial reaction.
>> Facial. >> Oh my god. >> We'll be like just going into his [laughter] teeth out.
>> It was insane. Yeah, >> it was wild. And then seeing the SD's method at the end is going to be so much
fun to see. >> See the full conversation. >> Yeah, I'm excited to actually see it,
you know. >> So, definitely check it out on Sam and Kobe's channel. >> Yes. Thank you.
>> It'll be out right now as this is out. Simultaneous release. >> Yeah. Same day. So, go check it out.
>> Thanks for joining our experiment. That was so awesome. So fun. >> Unlike anything we've ever done on the
channel before. You guys got to experience this. We're always down to Ghost Town.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Do it more often. >> Let us know if you want [laughter] a part two.
>> All right. Well, thank you guys so much for listening and we hope you keep listening.
>> And we hope you keep it weird. >> Weird, but not weird that you don't go check out their video. Peace. Hey,
[laughter]

It’s a paranormal crossover for the ages 👻 In this very special bonus episode, we’re joined by YouTube’s resident ghost-hunters Sam & Colby as we talk about our investigation of one of the most infamous haunted locations in America: the S.K. Pierce Mansion. Known for its dark history, aggressive energy, and “absolutely not” vibes, this house did not come to play. To take things to the next level, Sam & Colby brought in three psychics to independently tap into the mansion’s energy, and what they uncovered was chilling, emotional, and occasionally “we should probably leave right now.” From unsettling validations to shocking overlaps in what each psychic sensed, this investigation got intense fast. Grab your EMF readers, light a protection candle, and join us for a bonus episode where we go behind the scenes of the investigation CURRENTLY AVAILABLE on Sam & Colby's Youtube Channel!

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The hosts investigate the SK Pierce Mansion with psychics, uncovering eerie connections to a 16-year-old girl's unsolved murder.

Key points

Testing Psychics. The team discusses their goal of using psychics as tools for ghost hunting.
Mind-Blowing Results. The psychics' findings align in surprising ways, leading to shocking revelations.
The Creeper Spirit. A mysterious spirit, referred to as the 'creeper', is believed to be lurking in the house.
The Portal in the House. A psychic identifies a portal in a room where traumatic events occurred, revealing dark energies.
Dylan's Psychic Accuracy. Dylan's readings astound everyone as he accurately describes the history of the SK Pierce mansion.
The Tragic Story of Enosari. A mechanic named Enosari died tragically in a fire, leading to eerie discoveries.

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