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Captain but one of my one of the parts that I thought was the most interesting out of all of the information that was
released in these 283 Pages throughout these different documents was the way that everything went down right I've
always fascinated by police procedure and the actual investigation more so than any of the
Gory details of the of the crime itself right and I love the way that that they carry things out I love
having an understanding of how they have to react at a moment's notice so think about this
this case is it's just kind of for five and a half years Peaks and valleys highs
and lows a roller coaster ride for everybody not just the investigators but especially the investigators and then
you had you have all these these times in the case where there doesn't seem to be anything really going on and that's
almost six years long five and a half years long right and then in October of 2022
Richard Allen is taken into custody and the way that this comes about is because of an interview with him and his
wife on October 13th well what's really interesting to me is when you look at some of these documents
we know that they spoke with him on the 13th well what also happened on the 13th
they filed the affidavit for a search warrant they're requesting a search warrant
permission from a judge to search his property right so the way that this all goes down is
they you could you can picture this but I'm going to draw the picture for you they bring him and his wife in
for questioning now I want to be completely clear about this because one thing that is not clear in this case is
everybody is well he talked to the police and Detectives when this all went down way back when
and they were never interested in him well we need to figure out exactly the details of that of what his
conversations were with law enforcement in 2017. because as it's stated he spoke with a a
conservation officer right basically a park ranger I'm guessing yeah like here we have uh we refer to them you'll see
the the vehicles they'll see natural resource officer there's there's several different titles and different ranks
that you can hold in that uh in that agency it is a form of law enforcement absolutely no doubt about that
and I'm assuming their conservation officer is similar to what we're talking about here Natural Resources officer
park ranger I think it for me it falls more into that category than actual homicide detective
and so we don't know did this conversation take place at a supermarket somewhere
did he go to a park ranger's office and tell them hey I was out there on the trails that day
and they made note of it and slipped through the cracks yeah did it happen at his work
what nobody is saying is that he came in he marched into the Sheriff's Office and sat down with
detectives that's not what anybody's saying so I would love to hear more details about Richard Allen's
conversation with law enforcement back in 2017 but what we do know that that led to is at some point they're
reviewing the case all the information that they've collected about the case they come across this statement from an
officer from this this uh and I have his name here uh I can't find it at the moment but bear with me Captain
they find the statement and they go oh we need to talk to this guy so this is much more official October 13 2022 they
asked Richard Allen to come in they ask his wife to come in it's not described this way but I'm assuming that they
spoke to them separately they may have spoke to them together and separately we don't know how that went
down but what we do know is that his wife confirms for law enforcement that yes my husband does have guns and knives
in our home and Richard Allen confirms for them in October 2022 yes I was on the trails
that day and so what we then have is a rush job you because you got to have a rush job
and I'll tell you why here in a minute you go off to the judge and you go look here's we we just typed all this up we
need you to Grant a a search warrant for this home and property and we need we want to issue this search warrant
immediately so the way that this goes down and you can picture it right they're talking to
these two individuals at the department at some point during those conversations
they go you know what somebody who uh who can we get we need someone to start typing up that affidavit immediately
we need to get papers in front of a judge for them to sign off on a search warrant
and we need to do this today so from my understanding it was roughly around 5 p.m that day
they get the search warrant they drive them right out to the home right out to the property and now they are carrying
out that search warrant and the search warrant specifically says that Richard Allen and his wife
have to leave the property they have to leave the residence during the course of
this search right what happens is at some point they decide this guy has taken priority over everyone else
and now they've decided he we might have shown our hand we might have tipped our cap and and shown our hand
here and now he knows he's not a witness we are not interviewing him as a witness
anymore he's a suspect we cannot let this guy go home and have access to all the stuff that
where we believe we may find at his property because now he may destroy the evidence
discard the evidence hide the evidence we need to get there as soon as we can ASAP ASAP
so they they I bet you they drag out the the conversation with him the wife for a
period of time while they could type up this document go and get permission from
the judge this is when you go judge I I can't don't have time for an appointment
here's why I need you to sign this right now if you agree with the information that we've put in this document so that
we can be there on his doorstep when they get home before he has time to destroy any evidence right and we can we
can carry out the search warrant and you can picture this right yeah can you please stop asking me if I can picture
something this is not that hard to picture it's not an abstract painting there Gene Richard Allen and his wife
probably standing on the front lawn not allowed to go into their home watching these men and women of law enforcement
removing boxes and bags of evidence or potential evidence from their home can you picture it and then after the
tests are run on this six hour gun that is when he is arrested so he he must have been sweating bullets and
[ __ ] himself for for the period of time between the 13th and the 28th when they arrested him yeah so again like you
were saying they're interviewed on the 13th they do the search on the 13th the ballistic
um results come back on the 19th and then there's a time period And I don't know what the time period you'd think
once um once that test comes back the ballistic test comes back they would make a rest
right away but for some reason there was a delay and Richard Allen was arrested on the 26th yeah and then what we do
have here is a document and this is stating how some of this went down and why it
went down the way that it did as the captain points out arrested on the 26th charges were brought on the 28th and
this were for two counts of of murder and he's taken into custody moved to the Westville Correctional Facility this is
for safe keeping as stated in the documents and this they say is because when he was taken into custody he was
placed on suicide watch because of certain statements that Richard Allen made about harming himself
now they go on to talk about some of his day-to-day at this facility in this document stating that throughout his
stay his mental health improved to a point that he was taken off of suicide watch
he was also participating in Recreation time and beginning to exercise the facility reports that Richard Allen
was doing well and that they had no issues or concerns his day-to-day demeanor was that he was quiet read a
lot of books did crossword puzzles and exercised daily on April 3rd 2023 Richard Allen made a
phone call to his wife in that phone call Richard admits several times that he killed Abby and
Libby investigators had the phone call transcribed and the transcription confirms that Richard Allen admits that
he committed the murders of Abby and Libby he admits several times within the phone
call that he committed the offenses as charged his wife ends the phone call abruptly at some
point so it sounds to me like he he he's saying it in an almost cryptic unclear way to his wife I committed the offenses
I'm charged with and at some point may have been much more clear about what it is that he did
in that phone call and then she hangs up on him yeah and from my knowledge I don't think
she's been back to see him since um I had some local people that told me that she was at the hearings
um and before this confession supposedly they were making some eye contact and try to communicate at
the at those hearings but ever since this confession it's almost like she's not being responsive to him at at the
the trial now at the hearings now after this confession and we also know that she has sold the
property so I you know I don't know it's that's one of those items where it's like you
could read a lot into it um where you go well she she knows he's going to be found guilty so she knows
he's not going to come home maybe she can't afford that place by herself but well we we can we actually have
information in these documents that might make that whole situation a little more clearer uh when we get to when we
get to those we're trying to go through these in in the order that they were released primarily for the reason that
it was very it would be very difficult for us to create a new order of of these documents with them amounting to 283
pages but in this document the they're talking about then after this phone call where
his mental health and his demeanor was getting better leading up to this point and and they say since he arrived at
this facility then they say after the phone call the Richard Allen's mental state has
declined since then and this goes along with what the defense is stating that he
should be moved to another facility but I believe that this is the facility in the states
reasoning that it's not the facility that's at fault for his decline it's the individual
who might be responsible for his decline now keep in mind his defense team has stead in the court of law that they will
challenge the the accuracy and The credibility of his statements that maybe he's just lost
it and he's admitting to something that he did not do right that's that's what what they are saying
now what they do agree with is with what the state says that here's the statements both sides reviewed them in
the defense agreed yes those are incriminating statements well and that's the thing though is you know it's years
of an investigation then you get you finally make an arrest the guy starts saying right away I'm innocent I'm
innocent but as the defense is handed more and more evidence against you and obviously he's privy to that information
it's not crazy to think that he's going to snap and eventually tell his wife you know the truth because
he wants to protect her he wants to have her hear it from him first and then you know we talk about whether his wife
is visiting him or not calling him but keep in mind he we don't know the setup he may have to
be the one to initiate a call he may not be able to receive them we do know that
he can have phone calls and conduct phone calls on this tablet that he's been given he can in fact text message
with this tablet and he can do phone calls but we do know that he broke the tablet at some point and as of
they're saying that that leading up to April 3rd Richard Allen was making about two phone
calls a day and then afterward at some point he breaks the tablet he's not making any phone calls at all
you know you look at this information and you go okay well maybe it's not just as as simple as she's cut off
communication to him he may have broke his communication device and on top of that has decided not to have any more
phone calls and then they go on to say that he at some point began wedding down documents that that were from his
defense team and eating them consuming them he's a [ __ ] [ __ ] and it's and he also has refused to
sleep good he was refusing to eat and refusing to sleep he would go days on end refusing to sleep he further broke
the tablet that he used for text messages and phone calls and then it states that he went from two phone calls
a day to zero to none at all yeah when a prisoner goes without eating it it becomes a hunger strike and so sometimes
depending on how long the hunger strike is they'll go back and forth on suicide watch well if he had demands
a hunger strikes only a hunger strike if you're you know refusing to eat only a hunger strike if you have demands no but
what I'm saying is if they offer him food and he just he says he doesn't want to eat it that they can put him on they
could put him in a more restrictive confined space correct because that's proof that he may be
he may be up for harming himself right we all know we need to eat to survive so the the direct the exact statement here
is Richard Allen was wetting down paperwork he had gotten from his attorneys and eating it he was refusing
to eat and refusing to sleep now at some point that changes and he starts eating
and sleeping again here's the thing this all sounds very crazy right I don't I'm not I don't think it sounds
crazy I'm not a health care professional I do not know I'm not an expert don't know anything about this type of
behavior at all and in fact we're only reading it as words on on paper we've not witnessed any of this we've not
talked to this man but I have my suspicions sounds like he's put on a big show as the
investigators told us during the course of this investigation that for the perpetrator this was always
about power and this was always about control and whoever did this had the power over this entire community
of this Secret something that they only knew the answer to that nobody else knew
so that's one form of the power that this individual would have held over others also the power that they may have
experienced on that day while committing the crimes or in in other ways since then
the control part to me is yeah of course they controlled the victims and and things of that nature and sometimes
we've even seen cases where the perpetrator wants to try to control the the investigation or The Narrative of
the crimes but for me I've always thought about this and to me I think this is is somewhat
confirmation of this is it Richard Allen may be of the type that that he needed control because he
had no control now not necessarily we're not talking about a puppet master situation
we're talking about everybody it's a natural desire for all of us to feel that we are in
control of our own lives and that we do have some control of the things around us and the events going on
in our lives not me because uh Carrie Underwood taught me a great lesson Jesus take the wheel well I wish that I
wish that that would have been the same experience for whoever whoever committed
these crimes and in this case Richard Allen because what I think is part of this
behavior that we're we're being told of here is that he wants to have or feel or at least
feel like he has some control or control of his own life maybe he's never felt 100 that way maybe
that's a huge inadequacy for him and now he's lost even more control if there was
communication back and forth between him and his wife and she ended that well his world just got more disrupted
and what he can control the he's in a confined space with very few privileges and almost no control over his life at
this point but one of the very few things that he can control is the stuff that sits in the cell with
him and this may just be a way of him trying to destroy that or trying to find some
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cheers to you thanks for joining us here in the garage thank you one and all so here we go
Captain this is where we like to give a little thanks and praise to the listeners right with a
quick shout out a quick cheers maybe we cheers one another but I think we cheers is due to a person
that we've become friendly with over the past year or so and someone that I know that uh you've
had the privilege of meeting in person at least on one occasion but in part these documents become unsealed and
released to the public through request to the judge that we have some more transparency in this case for the
media that is trying to cover it and one of those persons that is responsible for getting this information
out into the masses is Kevin from the murder sheet and he he filed limited appearance by an
attorney he's an attorney and this was his request for these documents to be unsealed and I mean the murder she has
done great work on this case throughout the years and they've used his power as an attorney
to get some documents released over the course of the year so just just I mean he's a great guy first
of all I was lucky enough to talk to him just days before these documents came out
such a such a cool and humble guy that he didn't tell me that he he was making a push for these documents to be
released he just said there might be some documents coming out so a big shout out to him and uh Anya in in their both
of them for for all of their work tonight I look forward next time we get to sit down and eat some Nachos and
Tacos but Kevin uh maybe is the world's fastest Eater of all time so maybe you should do one of those uh
contests the hot dog contest I just tell people you know if you're gonna eat dinner with them just don't leave your
hands up on the table he might uh Luke Skywalker you so this is one thing that we kind of
teased earlier and this is a letter the handwritten letter from Richard Allen to
the the Carroll County circuit court and this was filed in November early November of 2022 I don't
know when this letter was scripted or or sent but uh I'll read it to you because
it's nice and short but it it also reveals some other things that we've discussed previously and it states and
again this is from Richard Allen says in the cause listed above I Richard Allen hereby throw myself at the mercy of the
court I am begging to be provided with legal assistance in a public defender or whatever help is available at my initial
hearing on October 28 2022 I asked to find representation for myself however at the time I had no clue how expensive
it would be just to talk to someone I also did not realize what my wife and I's immediate financial situation was
going to be we have both been forced to immediately abandon employment myself due to incarceration and my wife for her
personal safety she has had to abandon our house for her own safety what little Reserve there is will fail to even
maintain the original residence that word's cut off but assuming that's what he's yeah and just to catch off there
this is what I was saying on the last episode is there's a lot of speculation because she sold the
property on what that means and what's going to happen in this trial and I would go back to this exactly letter and
say look well one her safety she can get out of there and two if they can't afford it put it up on the market get
sold that's done now they don't have to worry about that that doesn't mean he's going to plead
guilty and and that she's preparing for him to plead guilty right the sale of the house
for all we know could have been in the cards two three four months ago it appears nobody was living there for
their own safety Richard Allen of course isn't living there because he's in a cell and
without any money coming in from employment they may have been forced to do this
right it may not have been of their choosing so I think one thing that's important to we say this with all the
cases not just the Delphi case before you start your speculation and then passing it off especially when in this
case a lot of times the speculation or rumor gets passed off at fat as fact at some point
review all of the information before you come up with an opinion on it now uh this here captain and I hope you
will allow me to to read this in its entirety no I will skip over some of the names because again
I don't think that they're all necessary for what's going on here but this is our
this is our inmate that's that's going to be very vocal about what his opinion is or could be just lies could be the
truth of the situation at this Westville Corrections Facility and this is addressed to the clerk of
courts and this was a letter that was sent April it appears to be 11th of 2023 and the letter States I am an inmate at
the Westville Correction Facility in the same unit that Richard Allen is being housed in awaiting trial Richard Allen
is being abused and mistreated along with other inmates in Westville control unit restrictive housing
there are corrupt officers and ranking officers calling Richard Allen a kid killer teasing him that he has a visit
from his his family phone is ringing on his tablet inmates in the cell threatening to kill Richard Allen and
telling him to kill himself these inmates have made these comments in front of the warden in front of
ranking officers and officers the staff has recorded on camera these inmates making these threats and suggestions to
kill himself and has done nothing to stop it so let me kind of unpack a little bit of
this yeah but what are you going to go through and put a muzzle on everybody well exactly you can't you you can tell
the guys to shut up hey hey stop talking to him stop threatening him whatever but I mean
really again I don't this does not I'm not saying I'm not applauding this type of
behavior if it is happening for all we know this this person that wrote this letter could be making all of this up or
all of it could be happening but I'm not applauding this type of behavior I'm just pointing out that this
does not seem to be anything out of the norm given the charges that this man is facing and so what it sounds like here
captain that this individual is stating is that the he believes or stating that the guards would tease him tease Richard
Allen like hey guess what you got a visit from your family and then they just leave him sitting
there and sitting there there is no visit right it's fake um or or phoning his tablet Maybe
him thinking that he's getting a call from a loved one or someone that that is on his side and
then maybe they're hanging up uh and it's it's no no call at all it's just them ringing his tablet I
page two says I have proof and evidence of assaults by ranking officers and officers on inmates abuse and
mistreatment in grievance and I apologize some of the handwriting I cannot read here
uh but going on to say that things have been mishandled and covered up because the Indiana Department of
Corrections is allowed to police itself with their office of Investigations and intelligence I recently sent letters to
the U.S Department of Justice and they go on to state that they have sent information to the doj and the FBI
about this corruption and abuse that's going on in the Indiana Department of Corrections and go on to state that
they sent information to the New York Times as well and the University School of Law
so that this person is kind of raising the alarm here saying these the way that the inmates are being treated here is is
not up to par it's not up to standard in fact it's it's not just that these are assaults abuse and mistreatment of the
persons being housed here yeah and this prisoner has a reputation for being what
they call a prison lawyer and and making these claims and and basically anytime he has a complaint making sure
that it's noted and is going to the right channels that doesn't mean that this stuff is not
happening but he's just known that's his um it's his Mo yeah that's how he passes at
the time but what we again we're not there we don't know if this is a lie a fabrication or it is happening
or somewhere between in between but what we do know is this this inmate wrote this letter
addressed it to the clerk of courts and we know because they stamped it and filed it that it was received by the
clerk of courts so where he's pointing out that the the Department of Corrections in Indiana has the they
police themselves what we do know is they allowed this document to make it to where this inmate intended to send it
they if if they wanted to be completely corrupt and cover and completely involved in a cover-up they could have
very easily just taken this letter and pulled a Richard Allen and wet it down and ate it and it would never have
gotten to the clerk of courts but we know that it made it there yeah or wet it down and shove it up your ass onward
and upward the next line item is the charging documents yes there are two of these and they're they're identical
nearly identical twins of course they're they're what should be two of them because they're it's a two counts of
murder right we unfortunately we have two victims here and so it's a document for each count
and what it's a very short description saying that what Alan is charged with is as simple
as this on or about February 13th 2017 in the county of Carroll the state of Indiana Richard M Allen did kill another
human being victim won while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping of victim one
document number two states the exact same thing just replace victim number one with victim number two
so he's being charged with killing a human being while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping of those
victims the thing that jumped off the page to me that I thought was very intriguing is it
lists the witnesses now these are not people that witnessed the kidnapping or attempted kidnapping
they're not people that witnessed what he is being charged with this is part of the discovery right this is
part of the information that will be provided to the defense this is a list of witnesses that they
that when this document was filed of witnesses they intend to call to testify at trial
and the reason why I found this to be so intriguing uh a couple of things one three of these Witnesses are described
only as an abbreviation of their names and this makes a lot of sense because that would line up with
the names that were previously redacted in other documents the other thing here though too is
there's been a the thing that's upset me and really pissed me off with this case
is all of the bad rumors that come in out of Delphi or maybe they originated elsewhere but they just seem to swirl
around and swirl around and swirl around and to the to the point where some people then interpret them as fact
the one one of the the rumors has been and and this may come about who knows but what I can state is from this
document it does not appear to be the case the rumor has been that that Richard Allen's daughter
will be testifying in court in in maybe 10 be testifying for the state that it that she is a part of the state's case
her name is not on this document yeah rightfully so right well they according to this document
they have no intention of calling her to the stand right well it's such a small community I think
that if these eyewitnesses and their identity gets out that they're going to get pressure from the community or
they're gonna get pressure from the the defense well their names are out there now
um they're so again these are not necessarily eyewitnesses to the crime or anything of that nature these are just
people that the state intends to call to the stand now these again these names could we we could add names to this
later that's their right they could also remove the names but as the filing of this document there are 23 people that
are listed as people that they intend to call to the stand and the other thing too we we got to be perfectly clear just
because the state intends to call somebody to the stand does not mean that they are a witness for the state's case
it's just simply that they have knowledge that the state wants to be presented at trial right right so
they are the reason why this rumor comes about with the daughter again could be true I've not seen anything that makes
it a hardcore fact but one degree of separation is Richard Allen's wife is listed on this
document again everybody the public needs to understand that does not mean that Richard Allen's
wife intends to get on the stand and build the state's case against her husband likely and we see this all the time in
murder trials she's being called by the state to back up and to verify all of the information
where she is listed in court documents the search warrant the affidavit for the search warrant because she her
statements to police are part of the reasons why they were seeking that search warrant to begin with
Mrs Allen in October of 2022 you were interviewed by the sheriffs at the sheriff's
department is that correct yes during the course of that interview did you agree with the statement from the
sheriff's department that your husband had guns and knives in his home in your home yes yes that's likely the most the
most likely reason why she's being called now would you try to Pepper her with some other questions that could
really throw this dude under the bus ask her about the confession so exactly and you and you have a transcript of
that which will be you said how many documents were it was decided would not be included in this release I think it
was 18 or 19. and you know what I captain I wonder if those transcripts are part of
that because they state in these documents that they have a transcription of that
phone call and other phone calls yeah that's definitely something I think they're going to have to wait to sift
through at trial I mean this is you know we we started covering this case from the beginning you have yep
when you're investigating any of these cases you you start coming out with questions on on your own and it seems
like the these 200 and what 83 documents are starting to 283 Pages 200 yeah to 283 pages
but 283 pages of information it's painting a picture of what happened and you know one of the
things that I thought was strange um this was pointed out to me by our Bud buddy fig solves
is one of the things they say is from Richard M Allen's statements investigators believe that Richard M
Allen was also on his phone when he was on the um when he was on the trail prior to
meeting the girls now this could be a nothing Burger because this might just be what they're
they're calling it he's meeting is kind of a weird term don't you think because that it's almost implying that there was
a meeting set up for them to meet yeah that that's a real interesting way of wording it now we do know from previous
documentation that he has told law enforcement that he was on his phone but not on a phone call he was checking
stocks checking the stock ticker but you know I mean like that's that's something that's fascinating and it
could just be that they use the wrong terminology but I think they would have to be pretty careful when they're
releasing this stuff to the public but he says meeting the girls uh again nothing
nothing in the document so far that proves that there was we don't think they were communication yes we don't
think that there was a meeting or prior communication but very interesting the wording of that
Captain because I think you and I would agree our definition of meeting would imply that it was previously arranged by
both parties right that they would they would meet at the same location at the same time now one thing I'm having a
hard time with and this is more of just a plea to the masses to to help me keep my some keep a grasp on my own sanity
too late well part of it you're not so yeah it's a for this guy it is certainly a short drive to Crazy Town but
there's a couple of our listeners that I love but you know what you're you're not
helping me keep hook a firm grasp on that sanity it is July right is that what they tell us
it's July of 2023. Richard Allen was arrested last year this thing is marching its way toward a a double
homicide trial and I am still receiving emails that tell me that the mayor killed Libby and Abby uh
I addressed it in the book in my book The Delphi murders and please just I love my favorite part of
doing this show one of my favorite Parts I love the research I love working with
the captain but one of my other favorite Parts is engaging with the listeners and
having a good back and forth that's why crime con so much fun book signings fun our event at brewdog that we've done two
years in a row a blast for me because I get I love the questions I love people telling me their theories I love people
telling me what we do right and do wrong on the show I love all that that ship is sale we I don't I do not
need another email telling me that the mayor was responsible what we are talking about today is
Richard Allen and talking about the charges against him in fact I I deleted this from my notes for today Captain uh
because I told myself on my drive here to the garage I wasn't going to bring this up but here I am fire foot and
mouth liar liar pants on fire foot and mouth and I'm talking about it anyway but I believe
is his name Shane Evans the uh okay and and I don't know if he's the current mayor at some point I kept I lost I I
stopped keeping track of Shane Evans he's not a good suspect uh yeah at the one press conference when they zoom in
on his face he does look like he's about to get sick I can agree with that statement he looks very uncomfortable at
that press conference watch the other faces they look rather uncomfortable as well Shane Evans is a young dude and you
know what I found myself in this situation more than once I'm not saying that Shane Evans did this
I found myself in the situation where maybe I went out the night before a long day of work and and didn't realize how
long of a day it's going to be or how how serious the day was going to be and I stayed out a little too late had a too
few mini soda pops and found myself in a situation where I'm a little dehydrated
hydrated tired hungover um I've probably had that face that he had and several meetings that I've been
in especially in my 20s and 30s now I believe he might be working with the prosecutor
I don't know if he became the St the City attorney or what but I've seen his name
in an attorney capacity on some of these documents as said though I I have deleted them
from my notes Here for today yeah but there's this is how it always works I mean
whatever evidence comes out some people some people need to double down and just
be right with this investigation first started look they show you a picture guy on the
bridge then they're interviewing the guy the guy that owns the property that the
victims are found on and he's dressed just like the guy on the bridge and so a lot of people jump to the
conclusion well this guy's lying to law enforcement they're found on his property he looks uh in his dress like
Bridge guy Ron Logan must have killed these girls and no matter what information or what evidence comes out
they're going to stick to their guns on their initial belief but that's not trying to get to the
truth and I don't know and I think it's very disrespectful to the victims Abby and Libby
deserve for all of us to look at the evidence that is coming out and try to find
Justice and peace for them and their family yeah the the well said there Captain and the the last document that I
had for review is the certificate of analysis we talked about this a little bit earlier the
state's case against Richard Allen the biggest part of that case is this unspent
shell that was found at the murder scene and their statement of through our search and seizure of his home we found
a gun we found identical and ammunition and we tested those and came to the conclusion that
the the marks on the the live round at the found at the scene came from his gun so just to put this
more in in uh terms that that will be in the courts and the way that the court sees it is
this comes from the Indianapolis Regional laboratory in Indianapolis Indiana and the
as you pointed out earlier captain that these tests were conducted and then there was some time that expired before
the arrest of Richard Allen and then charging him two days later so as you point out he's arrested on the 26th I
pointed out charged on the 28th this certificate of analysis is dated October 19th
they performed these tests from the 14th to the 19th according to this document and the tests were on a cartridge
in item zero one six identified as having been cycled in the firearm in item 314. so those are
numbers of the inventory of the items seized from his home item 314 would be the the handgun the Sig Sauer handgun
and the remarks the statements by the person conducting the analysis says or conducting the test
their remarks are an identification opinion is reached when the evidence exhibits an agreement of class
characteristics and a sufficient agreement of individual marks sufficient agreement is related to the
significant duplication of random impressed marks as evidenced by the correspondence of a pattern or
combination of patterns of surface Contours the interpretation of identification is subjective in nature
again that means opinion native subjective in nature and based on relevant scientific research and the
reporting examiner's training and experience so they're stating here method methodology used to reach results
opinions and interpretations microscopic comparisons so that is what the case is going to be
built around as far as physical evidence goes and then we have these potential eyewitness statements and then the 23
people that we know that at one point at least the State intends to call to the stand to back up information that they
have found in their investigation which led them to the doorstep of Richard Allen
foreign for joining us here in the garage a little bit of a different episode but
but fascinating to look into these documents and to see what weight this is going to have on the upcoming trial
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On February 13th 2017, two teenaged girls went missing for the trails at the Monon High Bridge in Carroll County, Indiana. The following day search and rescue teams found the bodies of the two girls, Libby and Abby. It was more than five years later that Richard Allen was arrested and charged with the murders. Recently, previously sealed court documents about the case, the arrest, and evidence were unsealed and released to the public. Due to dozens of requests we have decided to discuss these documents and the details of the information found on those pages this week in the Garage. There are significant details that many have wondered about for over six years now. Finally, more information is now available in a murder investigation that has been previously cloaked in mystery, silence and uncertainty.

Recommended Reading - Coal Country Killing; a future, a union, and the murders that changed it all by bestselling authors Robert K. Tanenbaum and Steve Jackson

Brief Summary

Richard Allen's arrest in the Delphi murders is examined, focusing on police procedures, evidence, and his alleged confession.

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Richard Allen's Arrest. Richard Allen is taken into custody after a lengthy investigation, leading to shocking revelations.
Confession Over the Phone. Richard Allen admits to killing Abby and Libby during a phone call with his wife.
Richard Allen's Plea for Help. Richard Allen begs the court for legal assistance due to financial struggles.
Claims of Abuse in Prison. An inmate claims Richard Allen is being mistreated in the Westville Correction Facility.
Witnesses for the Trial. A list of witnesses intended to be called at trial raises questions about their roles.

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