Creepy Cemeteries: Volume 1 | Morbid | Podcast | Forensic Files

hey weirdos I'm Elena and I'm Ash and this is [Music] morbid hey it's spooky season it is we
are in it what is it like when you listen to this I'll October something yeah it's not that right now but it's
it's that right now well that was that was super deep Alena that was deep right now it's like sometime in September and
that's still spooky season MH it's it's pre-october it's pre October but now it's October if you're list Halloween
Eve hallowen Halloween um and we you know what it feels a little like Christmas because we
got some delightful gifts from we we went to our PO Box the PO Box the PO box and we got
you guys always send the coolest [ __ ] you really do we have a decorating our pod lab all the time because you're
awesome and you're so [ __ ] talented that it makes me sick and it's sick you make me sick and it's so nice of you
just to like send us cool trinkets that you make and to like use your skills to give us a gift that's the thing cuz like
really cool you talk about the first thing we received because I think it's one of the coolest gifts I've ever
gotten in my life I'm just like in all of this so it's from there it's from I want you to listen to this so you can go
look it up on Etsy because blow her [ __ ] up uh it's a Ginger's papery papery uh
and it's let's see Ginger paper. etsy.com and it's papery p a p r i e gingers before that so this lovely love
lady I don't know if she wants us to say her actual name let's not say her I'm not going to just in case you don't want
me to yeah um but she made us the most beautiful customized journals like scrap Booky kind of journals that are so
pretty very specific to us yes we sat there this morning and went through every [ __ ] page every little piece of
paper every detail they are the most beautiful things I have ever seen she's so talented and every like couple Pages
there would be like an insert where you would like pull out even more paper little pocket little yeah and there was
just cool like little articles cool poems cool like old ads from like like vintage ads yes like ash got like a
bunch of vintage like uh like hair styling ads yeah and I got a bunch of like old Pharmacy ads and like
Apothecary stuff and like there was like a old like this ancient looking tell like science textbook page that was in
there it was so cool she put a zodiac wheel in M she included stickers in the back it honestly just the coolest most
thoughtful gift it was really sweet it really made our day and you can order off of her Etsy um shop and like
customize your journal with her like they even had our initials on the front yeah it's amazing I love it so much so
thank you so much you're amazing that was just so [ __ ] cool it really was was yeah and then we got this really
cool piece of artwork and I don't think it came with a card or like the card got
lost somehow but it's this framed piece um and it's a it's like a cross stitch no it's not I don't think it is a cross
stitch it's like beads oh it is they're they almost look like little rhinestones
oh [ __ ] and it's a it's a drawing of me and Elena standing back to back Elena's
got black on and I have white and a black skirt and we're standing in front of this circle and it says keep it weird
morbid and it's so cool and if you sent it to us you're the [ __ ] tits yeah it was really cool name yourself name
yourself show yourself because this is cool it's going up on my side of the wall and I'm really excited there's a
literal perfect spot for it that's the thing I happen to have the perfect spot so I said can it go in my side of the
wall oh it is it's like diamondy yeah cuz it just like it's like glittered when you put it down sorry all my papers
are going to go that's really [ __ ] cool yeah it's really pretty and I I I hello
I'm so tired I'm sorry ma'am this is Wendy's ma'am I don't even know what I was going to say yeah yeah you just love
it speechless oh I oh I was going to say I want to know I don't know if this person
who made it if this is like their original drawing because I've seen a sticker with that too with the same
which is such a cool one yeah it's cool so if you drew it I love you we'll post a picture of it I don't know you guys
like just rule a little B you're just awesome and so many people said us cool books to read and sometimes people send
books for like the kids which is really sweet yeah we appreciate all of it we just appreciate you so much you don't
have to send us anything oh oh that's another one before we get into it I promise we're going to get into it but
do you have the I would like to shower you with love I do okay good um hold on so I got a really cool one from uh let
me see the store her like little place is Bricks by Penelope Bricks by Penelope and she takes bricks and she paints them
to look like books and [ __ ] and she got me a brick and painted it to look like
the butcher in the ren I'm going to take a picture of it cuz it's so [ __ ] cool
it's so cool it went right in the bookshelf like right there right next to me you would never even know that it's a
brick because it's so smooth smooth and beautiful and just like the details like
cuz obviously the Butcher and the red cover has like the eyeball and then there's something in the eyeball it's so
so impressive it is so [ __ ] cool I just it what a banner day what a banner and we needed it this morning cuz both
both of us got our flu shots oh my God and I think we were just exhausted like the you know you're fine after a flu
shot but like sometimes you're your immune system immunes you know which is good my immune system immuned so hard
that I want to find it yeah I just didn't sleep well last night cuz I was just like uncomfortable I just didn't
feel great your arm gets so we were just a little tired this morning and just not
ourselves I thought I was going to Yak yeah so it was a nice little like it was a nice thing because Mikey came in like
[ __ ] Old St Nick with a with a big sack full of full of PE box stuff and we said oh goodies he's literally stroking
his beard like Santa Claus wood I'm obsessed and so you guys really killed it and we appreciate you and we're going
to post some of it cuz it's just really cool you guys are so cute and sweet and kind you're lovely you're Demir you're
very mindful cute so I wonder by the time this comes out people will be like what is that people
are theend is over people are done with that but I'll never be done it's hilarious personally speaking of very
cutesy cutesy very very mindful um I think by the time you hear this it's going to be like what October
7th you said Mikey October 7th and that means guys that our collection our morbid collection with Spencers will be
launching Spencers remember do you guys remember the [ __ ] like remember you would go to the mall with your friends
and you be like oh my god do you guys want to go in the back of Spencer and giggle we can laugh we can laugh back
there we have a collection now with them we do we have sweatshirts I'm literally
wearing one right now actually is these sweatshirts are really fun I love them so comfortable too so comfy I recommend
sizing up as much as you can because then you'll just be like wearing a blanket essentially yeah this and we
have a blanket there's a blanket a blanket there's earrings there's press on nails there's press on nails there's
I think a like a oh makeup brushes there's a palette even a makeup palette like an ey shadow palette there's cups
mugs we got cups it's we got cups we're drinking out of cups being a [ __ ] it's
great it's our chair and it's our problem and it's a happy it's not even a problem it's a great thing to have so
it's really fun and go check it out it's in stores yes we're going to go we're going to be doing a um a little visit to
the Spencer stores yeah and I can't wait yeah it's going to be exciting yay pop off by it um so oh hold on I just have
to I need you to I'm going off on a on a Spiel here okay go I need you to watch Secret Lives of Mormon wives on Hulu but
you told me I might not be able to no I think you'll be fine I decided because I
was thinking so I watched it in two days I started it on Saturday morning and just watched it while I decor created
for Halloween love that watched it the next day Drew Drew even got into it damn and I was thinking about some of the
other things that happened and I don't want to like spoil it for you but you just you have to watch it h it's so good
I'm interested I keep just saying like what's going to happen to Mom talk is this going to destroy mom talk and I've
seen so many people like so many of our listeners like I've posted stuff on Insta and they've been responding to it
and I just wanted to say I'm having the best time just talking about mom talk and Mormon wives hang it's so good oh I
love one of my favorite things is when uh our listeners are all like we're all enjoying the same thing yes and then
like we'll post about it and I get a bunch of messages that are just like vibing with it and I'm like I love this
it's so fun because it feels like hanging out with a bunch of people say it's like a big hang sesh it's true I
love all right I'll let you get to everything now all right um before I begin John and I are watching only
murders in the building and it's really good so the uh last couple of seasons I was going to say how many seasons is
that at now four I think but it's oh wow really good I watched a little bit of season Steve Martin A+ Gomez so [ __ ]
good so good yeah I watched a little bit of season one and then I for no reason I
just fell off of it but I I want to get back to it it's a cozy show I love it it
is a cozy show uh but you know what I'm going to talk to you about some cemeteries today cuz uh cozy I suppose I
think they are so I have a wild Cemetery do you wild it is the Westminster burying grounds in Maryland okay uh it
is a cemetery that's at the Westminster Presbyterian Church which is now not the
church anymore it's called Westminster Hall okay um and they it was created in 1786 the burial grounds damn that is
going back quite a ways it's old it was actually made before the church was even
erected and the church was erected over it which made some catacombs happen what
yeah so H so there's that that's terrifying and this happens to have a very famous resident does it Mr Edgar
Allen Poe himself is in the cemetery you know him I've heard of his work I love your work and yeah I love your work he
was actually initially buried in an unmarked grave because of his strange end of his life um but you know they
we'll talk about that don't worry but uh later according to morbidly beautiful.com which is a very
interesting website a bunch of children from a local school raised money to get him a marker at the
entrance of the cemetery they called the fundraiser pennies for po that's hilarious and adorable remember I
remember learning about that did you really yeah when we talked about Ed girl in Po in scho funny yeah he was buried
actually three different times in that Cemetery that's crazy I feel like you probably shouldn't disturb anybody's
body that much yeah I mean he's so Wy like he was Wy in life he was Wy in death he still is yeah the marker that
was made um at the entrance of the cemetery was made with you know some of the raised funds and it had this little
like Medallion thing on it with his image on it and it's been stolen and it was stolen and ended up being found in a
flea market in Charleston West Virginia what the [ __ ] yeah cuz I guess it was one of them was like bronze or something
and or copper one of those and then the newer one was marble they stole the marble one W cuz that's expensive but
then it showed up in a flea market in West Virginia don't steal things from graveyards that's for [ __ ] don't
steal things from anyone but specifically not from graveyards but like definitely don't steal from
graveyards that's bold and Brazen yeah so he's people that are also buried in that Cemetery along like near egmo um
are his wife Virginia clemo and his mother-in-law Maria po Clem wow you may be like weird that they have the same
last names but reversed and you would be correct but that's because his wife was
his cousin I always forget that Troubled Man indeed someone tells me that and I say Okay first cousin yeah I'm pretty
sure okay I think she was also young I remember that part like he was like 26 or something she was like 13 or 14 yeah
he was a he was a situation we're going to a restaurant where he drank in the sellers yeah he drank a lot so there was
definitely that let's go drink in the sellers that Edgar you go drink in the sellers with me where Edgar and po drank
so I know it's real so I know it's real well people will see po hanging out in this place often cemeter yeah the
cemetery often just standing over his own grave he would he really would and he's always seen like wearing a long
black coat he's wearing a black fedora like a big one and he's always got a scarf covering part of his face almost
like he's trying to hide that's spooky which is really creepy um people believe he may be feeling some you know regret
for how his life panned out because like sure he's pretty famous now but like at
what cost and he really wasn't when he was alive he really wasn't as much yeah so his death was gnarly and I'm sure he
is even puzzled by it still so yeah um so let's go on a little side tangent here and let's talk about pose
mysterious death really quick let's so I'm not going to I'll go into like a kind of generalized look at it because I
really would like to go into this a little further later Alena I think you should do an episode on that I feel like
that'd be good there's many theories about his death that I think would be very interesting to go into cuz they r
from like you know being beaten to death to carbon monoxide poisoning so I feel like there would be
like evidence of the beating versus if he died of carbonide poisoning I think you should do that for maybe like maybe
like Halloween oh there you go that might be a fun one because it's very interesting I don't know if an episode
comes out on Halloween but but I'll give you I'll give you a little uh generalized look at it so September 27th
1849 40-year-old po left for Philadelphia on business he was set to help edit a collection of poems it was
going to be kind of a big deal it was for a well-known poet at the time so this was like a big deal that he was
going to edit them but he never arrived R and he never showed up and no one heard a damn word from him he was
supposed to be going back to Richmond actually during that week for his own [ __ ] wedding because he was engaged
at the time to Sarah Elmyra Royster Shelton because his other wife had passed away from consumption oh [ __ ] um
and it's like he vanished for a full week just vanished no one knew where he was didn't contact anyone and then he
was found on October 3rd a week later 1849 on Election Day and he was f a man named Joseph W Walker was on his way to
Gunner's Hall which was a polling station and like a local public house and outside in the alley he came across
a man dressed like [ __ ] smelling like [ __ ] looking like [ __ ] and lying on the
ground basically Falling In and Out Of Consciousness and unable to move yikes so he was like wow that's crazy and then
he looked at him and he was like that's Ed Gren po [ __ ] um so he was like can I
call some for someone for you sir like you okay you good and by call I mean write a letter because it's 1849 and po
was like uh yeah you can write a guy named Joseph Snodgrass Snodgrass who was apparently a
friend an editor um in possession of a really cool name and also he s hustled as kind of like a doctor-ish medical
person side hustled as a doctor-ish medical kind of person imagine bringing your your new mans around your family
and they're like oh what are you doing he's like I'm a doctor-ish medical kind of person for my side hustle yeah you
know it was the 1800s so that was pretty normal it's giving Dr Death so he did he
wrote him according to the smithsonian.com he wrote it on October 3rd 1849 Dear Sir there is a gentleman
rather the worst for wear at Ryan's Fourth Ward Pole who goes under the cogn of Edgar APO and
who appears in great distress and he says he is acquainted with you he is in need of immediate assistance yours in
haste Joseph W Walker he is in need of immediate assistance so let me post mark this send it to you hope it gets to you
soon enough but he did write yours in haste post haste I'm Russian he was brought he eventually he showed up and
he was brought to me you know get some medical attention and he spent four days in and out of you know basically in and
out of dying essentially yeah um he was in and out of Consciousness and he died on October 7th during that time he was
hallucinating he was going into fits [ __ ] what this episode comes out on October 7th W it happens again it
happens again I didn't even wow that's weird cuz Mikey literally just told us that yeah we wouldn't have known that
what the [ __ ] damn why does that always happen Weir that's so weird damn I meant
for that to happen totally I got whole chills about that well during this whole time he was hallucinating he was going
into fits and he was screaming the name Reynolds over and over Reynolds to this day no one's been able to determine who
the [ __ ] Reynolds is and it's also documented that he was discovered in dirty old's clothing that wasn't his
they were not his clothes no one knows who these clothes belong to why he looked like such [ __ ] why he was
hallucinating and why he was screaming the name Reynolds and then he just died that's weird I mean sometimes when
you're like about to die you hallucinate and talk to people that aren't there but
he was like really going through it I mean he and he was so bad that he couldn't recollect what had happened to
him yeah that's strange so do you think there's like a possibility that he just like went on a vendor well that's the
thing so he was also supposed to be in a sober era yes um so this dou you know he
was trying and you know again there's so many theories that go into this like there's something called coping back
then where these people on Election Day would like kidnap someone like beat them
and kidnap them and dress them in Disguise and make them go vote for who they wanted them to yeah and then
release them again and sometimes they would like keep them in a room and like ply them with alcohol and [ __ ] and like
make them do it oh that'd be really there is a theory that like coping was responsible for this and that maybe like
that's what it which would be wild and just really [ __ ] sad yeah it's like it's fascinating and really tragic and
sad um but like we'll go into it at a later date I think for sure but just know the man had a strange troubled you
know weird death yeah troubled life so seeing him like contemplating his choices over his own grave after he's
died seems pretty [ __ ] poy to me I feel like that would make for the beginning of an awesome movie right just
po standing over his own great and then you just like delve into his life and choices that'd be sick somebody made
that yet well and he also shows up at the altar inside of like what was the church um Westminster hall now a lot
like he'll just be walking around in there that's cool um and every year since then this is just interesting to
me every year since the 1940s a mysterious figure visits po grave on his birthday oh I knew this which I think is
January 19th I'm pretty sure look it up really quick um and he leaves three red rose
and a half bottle ofac which is supposed to be Po's favorite poison of choice and
then he toasts to him and then just leaves every year and apparently one year and he leaves these people leave
notes sometimes one year there was a note that said Edgar I haven't forgotten you and according to America's haunted
road trips the original person who did this like started this whole thing died in 1998 there's proof of that but they
haven't revealed who it is it's never been revealed and then someone else took it up after them obsess after that
person died someone else has taken it upon themselves to do that that's the kind of lore that I want going on in my
gravite right like be nice at my grave site and just be dark and leave me weird poison and Roses one thing I would think
he he'd be pretty psyched about is after he died one he became insanely famous yeah but two he all his [ __ ] is so
synonymous with like Gothic culture and like know spooky Ravens and [ __ ] like that he's like the OG OG goth King yeah
it's true like he was [ __ ] up which I think kind yeah like he was [ __ ] up but obviously his like works are so
Gothic and wild and like you know the deep deep lore of Mr Po deep deep lore but that's egar po hanging around that's
[ __ ] cool there's also something that's called the screaming skull of Cambridge there tell me all about that
uh which was what initially actually brought me to the it would bring me to that commentary I
said a screaming skull what he said hey what's that about and I was like I bet it's not an actual screaming skull no it
is [ __ ] awesome yeah cuz I was like oh you're going to tease me with this and then it's going to be something
stupid nope nope scream and skull apparently a minister a local Minister was murdered nearby and after he was
buried his skull kept screaming relentlessly all hours of night and people said the shrieking would drive
people mad because it would stop so they dug him up they this is like in the 1800s they dug him up they gagged the
skull encased it in concrete and then decapitated him and placed the concrete screaming skull next to his grave I sort
of feel like there was a better way to go about that probably but it kept feel that way it kept screaming good I would
too scre louder you exactly you [ __ ] up I'm going get louder I'm getting louder and sometimes they can still hear
scream screaming coming from there screaming skull you know that gift where it's like I ain't get no sleep cuz of
y'all get asleep cuz of me that's all that's that's the skull that's the minister in his death That's The
Minister's skull gag all just gag all that's it so really was that um there's also a few more stories like Lucia
Watson Taylor she was a 16-year-old girl who passed away that's a really pry I know right in 1816 her ghost can be seen
she has very long dark hair of course she's wearing a flowing dress obviously she can be seen on very dark and foggy
evenings in in full body Apparition and she's always seen kneeling and praying over her own grave oh and her EP she is
a that's a real person in the cemetery like you can find her grave and it says her Epitaph says blessed with peculiar
sweetness of temper a mind pure and exalted a heart Pious and faithful she died beloved and lamented early bright
transient chased as morning dew she sparkled was exal and went to heaven that is so beautiful and I was
like Wow people really loved her she I was going to say what a loved like woman young woman like yeah
that's a beautiful engraving and also it would have been hella expensive very expensive but it's just like damn like
that what that's a beautiful Epitaph like beautiful it is that really is they also just knew how to say [ __ ] way
better back then did they really did but I was like she sounds like a a seriously
cool chick but then you wonder I'm like why is she praying over her grace I know
I hope like I hope she did make it to where she wanted to go I know I'm like I hope wherever it is you're you're happy
you know maybe you're just I'm hoping it's like a residual thing it's not just actually but there's another uh kind of
creepier story uh that is from the catacombs because there's catacombs here because the church was built right over
the cemetery that is too much in the catacombs there's a story of a woman named Leona Welsley she was a woman from
a local Asylum who was said to be so mad that they buried her in her straight jacket to keep her restrained in death
unnecessary yeah that's what I say not demure not mindful not mindful at all and people say they can see and feel her
following them around and she will laugh in your ear maniacally good which I was
like I probably would know I would do the same yeah um when also the groundkeeper from long ago named old
Valance obsessed he was the he was the Grave Digger and the grounds keeper he'll Chase your ass out of there if you
[ __ ] around in there well [ __ ] around and find out they those grounds perfectly and he will not tolerate
Shenanigans good and when he chases you out he'll do so with a shovel so it's just a ghost coming out
an old Valance ghost running at you with a shovel go hit your head out there get
out of there and apparently there are rumors of a lot of premature burials that happened here Sor sorry qua yeah
you heard it right premature because it was in the time when a lot of that would
happen often like they didn't have all the technology to know when someone was actually dead which is why they had all
those the bells and the other things where they could like you know grave alarm ESS [ __ ] um this happened a lot so
they I mean that's a perfect recipe for a ghost if you ask me absolutely it is and the catacombs are especially haunted
down there because of this yeah CU they are some of the oldest Graves uh there was also a lot of grave robbings down
there especially in the catacombs worse kind of individual yes truly fullon body
snatchings as well because this was in the time there's a um there's a Medical College nearby and this was and it's an
old Medical College it was in the times when students or people hired by medical
colleges would come snatch cavers to use in the Cav Labs yep so that's not great
for the people who were buried there no and also bodies were just moved into different areas or gravestones were
moved and just left like bodies in different places because of like code violations and [ __ ] when they were like
redoing this whole place oh wow so they have actually like there's rumors that they found bodies like under walkways
and [ __ ] oh man no that's really sad yeah um so it's gnarly you know in these streets sometimes it do be but when the
church and this is just uh what I'll leave you on for this one when the church ceased being an actual church
around 1977 in the 19 late 1970s early 80s local school children would use the graveyard as a playground because ' 80s
you probably shouldn't do that there were reports of people witnessing kids throwing around human skulls and [ __ ] I
don't have a lot to say about that and at the same time so much to say about that y
that's a that's a [ __ ] up kid that's that's a lot if if I was a child and somebody threw a skull at me I'd leave
I'd leave I'd leave I'd leave wherever call an adult I say Mom can you pick me up I'm scared yeah that would that would
not be something I would engage in when I was little and I would hope my children would have something to say
about that as well yeah they're better than that if I threw a human skull at one of my kids they would not just catch
it didn't and go about their days like they'd be like why' you do that if you threw a human skull at one of your kids
we'd have to have a serious talk with you true I'd say John John it's gone to on it's gone too far John I'm on my way
we got to talk to this if another kid threw human skull at one of my kids they'd be like this doesn't feel right
yeah no you know I feel I am confident in that and also it' be on site it's true just kidding it's true uh but yeah
so that's Westminster Hall and burial ground in Baltimore Maryland wow yeah all right well my cemetery is Bachelor's
Grove Cemetery ooh and according to many honey many many many Bachelor's Grove Cemetery which is in Illinois is one of
the most haunted locations in the world oh we love to see it in this world in our world yeah our universe if you we
love to see a globally recognized haunt we sure [ __ ] do now the cemetery happens to be the
oldest one in all of Cook County the first burial on record there took place in 1834 damn yeah a long time ago
altogether there's about 80 Graves on site but that's scared the [ __ ] out of me that was a crazy bark either Sydney
or blanch was like that's wrong she was like she said there's about 78 she said don't you dare round up don't you round
up I don't know why I made your dog other they became Southern well one of them is blanch you know Deo blanch Deo
she's Southern Bale I know you know but the thing is a lot of these Graves have been dug up vandalized like this place
is desecrated and people treat it like [ __ ] people get it together so guess what if you're desecrating Graves yeah
if you're going to go visit this place it I found differing opinions on whether or not it's open to the public like some
people say it's closed some people are like no you can go in the daytime no it's silly fun I don't know
um so like enter at your own risk but only if you're there to be nice yeah and respectful yeah if you're there to steal
headstones I don't know you and I don't like you and you know what you're not listening to our podcast because our
listeners are respectful exactly so turn this off if you're not turn it off but anyway the cemetery most likely gets its
name from the bachelder family who settled there around 1820 so it's not the bachelor reality show no well now it
is now it is cuz over time the spelling of the name probably changed depending on the source and eventually when the
family no longer owned the property there was a group of single men who moved to the area and that's it was like
four or five single men they were like oh my God Bachelor's Grove that's why they started calling at that now
eventually ownership transferred over to the Fulton family around the early 1900s
it seems one of the youngest Fultons buried in the cemetery is Emma Fulton who's only one years old when she passed
away and she'll come back later so remember that I'm on forever but according to ghost city tours everything
was going pretty well for quite some time while the cemetery was under the Fulton family but around 1950 the mid I
think it's the Midlothian Turnpike it was rerouted and the B and Bachelor's Grove
became an even more rural area than it once was okay so the turnpike used to like like it was a very frequently
traveled road but when they relocated it the Old Turnpike didn't really have a use anymore so it's like really rural
now creepy yeah now since it was out of the way of all the hustle and bustle for
the city of the city it was the perfect place for the 60s teens to get their lovers lane Vibes on oh hell yeah it was
of course and of course for party animals they could have their Woods parties they could get drunk and go
crazy in the cemetery they could get lit exactly but unfortunately that came along with a lot of vandalism including
grave digging again I say get it to together get it together get it together I was
not out here grave digging no I never ever grave doging I never ever will no and you were a Pretty Reckless teen and
you weren't graved di this is true I partied in the woods but we just partied in the woods like I didn't [ __ ] anything
up if you came across a grave you left it be if I came across a grave I'd probably leave to be honest I'd be like
well we shouldn't be here yeah this this is Hallowed Ground this is disrespectful
but this is not the only time this thing is this next thing that I'm going to talk about has happened but in 1973 the
Chicago Tribune reported that 17 teens were quote unquote seized while they were in the middle of trying to dig up a
grave what the [ __ ] was the purpose like that's Wy me well they do tell us the
purpose oh the police said the youth arrived Wednesday night got out and prepared to resume digging when the
policemen announced themselves the youths told the police they were doing it as a lark which is like a joke just
like a fun little they were doing it for lws yeah just doing it for the plot super duper funny it's all for the plot
kick police lking it up yeah just digging up dead bodies are you [ __ ] kidding me bro who are you yeah that's
the thing they got in trouble I think um most of them like had to be bailed out and like do some community service [ __ ]
why are you bailing them out probably the parents let him sit in there I would have if that was my kid I'd be like you
just dug up a gravee why don't you think about your [ __ ] life you just desecrated a grave you think about your
[ __ ] life and I'll think about my choices as a parent contemplate your [ __ ] yeah we'll do this separate but
police presidents definitely became more regular once they realized how bad the vandalism was becoming cuz it got really
bad to the point where people were just like knocking over headstones stealing head Stones that's become such a
frequent thing that there are so many graves that are just unmarked I hope that they are so [ __ ] haunted yeah
like those people like I hope they are being driven mad yeah I hope so too I truly do yeah that's the thing you steal
a gravestone out of a graveyard or you knock one over intentionally like or like vandalize one in any way I hope you
have the The Haunting you deserve I agree cuz just what are you getting out of that yeah it's so [ __ ] go to a
rage room yeah I just don't get it take a walk Fu you doing yeah sit down graveyards are so peaceful just take a
walk yeah thr some [ __ ] headphones on and transport to another time and place what are you doing knocking [ __ ] over I
don't get it no but because the vandalism was ramping up police presence definitely became a more uh frequent
site but even as recently as 2009 there's been vandalism discovered with people literally spray painting the
Tombstones man like get a life yeah truly but some people also say the cemetery became a very popular place
with satanic worshippers and even the mob wao the M makes an appearance yeah obviously before police presence got a
little heavier there yeah but there's a swamp behind the cemetery and it said that after they took people out there
you know to kill the mob style they just throw their bodies into the swamp yeah I
mean what else are you going to do you know damn that's crazy that's some mob [ __ ] right there that is some mob [ __ ]
um and then as far as the satanic worshiping goes police say that they found Chicken Heads littering the ground
and Trigger warning dead dogs on the property that's [ __ ] up which you know lends itself to satanic worshipping
rumors lends itself to [ __ ] Behavior I agree is what it does I agree yeah uh one of the Paranormal researches that
they had on the Ghost Adventures episode because Ghost Adventures the Ghost Adventures episode John Stevenson he was
one of the paranormal researchers and he said he remembers being at the cemetery
when he was younger and he said he actually saw what he assumed was some kind of Satanic ritual going on because
people were dressed in these black robes like standing around a fire and chanting
things at the same time damn that's pretty scary it's pretty satanic could be fires and chanting robes robes you
know togetherness together Community vibes spooky Vibes I'm like that could have just been witches could just been
some witches vibing I agree to be honest well one of the most famous ghost sightings and my particular favorite
ghost sighting in Bachelor's Grove is the woman in white or the Madonna as she's called I've seen this one this
picture oh my God in a few books I was always fascinated by this picture it's so beautiful yeah I remember cuz I was
one of those kids who would look at haunting books like all the time yeah like obsessively in pictures like there's
like the brown ghost or something like that which is like and it's like a a photo of this like Spectre coming down
the St down the staircase right and it's like a it's like it's like the brown lady or something like that I think
she's supposed to be wearing like a brown outfit or something but it looks like a [ __ ] terrifying I know the one
you're talking about I was so obsessed with that picture but it [ __ ] me up I also think well if it [ __ ] you up and
it still is I think they debunked that one did they I think they debunked that one
B yeah it was like somebody like put something on the like lens of the camera or something like [ __ ] with the
negatives I'm going to look this up because I've been holding on to that for decades no I'm sorry to have cred your
life no but but you know what this picture you're about to talk about is another one yeah that I remember just
obsessively staring at this photo and just being like is this [ __ ] real because I just couldn't comprehend it
they haven't debunked it whoa they haven't debunked it nobody's been able to we'll post the picture because she
was captured though the Madonna of Bachelor's Grove was captured in a now famous photograph it's the one we're
talking about it is stunningly hauntingly breathtakingly beautiful I will never be over it I honestly want to
get a print for this room and hang honestly I agree it's a gorgeous photo it's so it's like Melancholy but winds
beautiful and spooky very very beautiful yeah in the photo she's got this long brown hair and she's wearing a white
flowing dress and she's sitting on top of a checkered tomb kind of looking off into the distance and parts of her are
like translucent yeah it's gorgeous and they haven't been able to debunk that one this one yeah yeah no that one they
I I was looking it up I don't I haven't found any evidence of it at least no not
this one yeah but other people claim that they've seen this woman wandering around the cemetery and they say she
seems to be looking for someone uh something or someone sometimes she's seen leaving flowers on other graves in
early sighting she was seen holding a baby but in more recent sighting she doesn't have the baby anymore which is
interesting now there's a grave in the cemetery and its headstone just says infant daughter so some people think
these two things are connected like the Madonna and the infant daughter okay um something super creepy but sweet is that
people will now leave baby toys at that infant daughter grave site oh my God yeah
it seems that the first reports of the Madonna of Bachelor's Grove came from a radio radio show in the' 70s where
someone called in with a sighting but there are two main theories as to who the woman could be and they both
actually come from the same family so there's Catherine I think it's vote fton and then Luella Fulton Rogers and they
were sisters-in-law back in the 1930s okay according to grunge.com the infant daughter marker marker could be the
grave of Marsha May who was Katherine's daughter apparently there was like some turmoil in the family around the time
that Marsha passed away cuz obviously she passed away when she was a baby yeah and for whatever reason Catherine's
parents wouldn't allow their grandchild a Fulton to be buried on vote land H so when Catherine passed away she wasn't
buried in the Fulton plot but somewhere far away and some believe that her spirit roams all the way back to
Bachelor's Grove where Marca ended up being buried to like check in on her daughter oh okay I love that yeah yeah
now others believe that the woman in white isn't actually Catherine but her sister-in-law Luella unfortunately
Luella died right near Bachelor's Grove on the week of her 60th birthday she died in a hit and run accident and she
happens to be buried in Bachelor's Grove Cemetery next to her sister Emma fton ah
now Emma's headstone was stolen from the cemetery by some ass hat and because this happens so frequently the stone
wasn't handed back like wasn't put back in the cemetery instead it was handed over to Tinley Park Historical Society
for safekeeping cuz they don't want people just to like go back and steal it all over again yeah but those who
believe that the woman in white is Luella point to a photograph that bears a striking resemblance we'll post it and
they say that she's most likely wandering around looking for her sister's headstone oh my goodness yeah
that like breaks my heart I know I'm not sure which one I believe like I I feel like either could fit it makes sense
both of them and either way it's really [ __ ] sad yeah cuz she seems just lost and like very unsettled and they care
for the baby like a lot and it's interesting that whoever the woman in white was was carrying a baby for some
time but now isn't ah that is really interesting yeah now another paranormal uh happening that's been reported on for
decades at this point with many people saying the same thing is the disappearing Farmhouse it's also called
The Magic House and the Phantom house all right spill that [ __ ] cuz I'm in the
Chicago Tribune wrote the site also has a disappearing house at night people see
an old one-story Farmhouse it's been spotted on both sides of the dirt road as you enter the cemetery people who
don't know each other all draw sketches of the same house even down to the lamp burning faintly inside they're
flabbergasted to know there's no house there what so people all say like people really agree on like most of the details
they all say that the house is a white Victorian era house with a porch a swing and a white picket fence what the [ __ ]
the only thing that really varies about this story that people will give is where they see the house and whether it
looks solid or translucent some people say it looks like a legit house that is just there and then other people say
it's like almost translucent and then every in every story the house either shrinks the
closer you get to it or it just completely disappears oh my God I want to see this there's also no evidence
that a house ever existed on the property no so like no hello hello hello that's Bonkers like that is spectral a
spectral house and the thing the other thing is that like people will go and they'll experience that like they'll see
the house it'll disappear or it'll shrink and then they'll go back with somebody else and be like I have to show
you this and like they hope it happens again most people have never seen it twice oh I love it isn't that so bad
once in a lifetime [ __ ] now another paranormal sighting is the blue light phenomenon and this is the most um
reported one from Bachelor's Grove Cemetery oh okay according to research done by Peter I think it's creia uh he's
the founder of Bachelor's Grove Cemetery and settlement Research Center and he's
done a ton of writing about the different haunts here so definitely check them out but he said the first
report of this seems to come from Jack hermansky back in 1970 Jack was out in the cemetery and he said he saw this
blue light and he said as he watched it the light quote grew as large as a basketball blinked in 10 to 20 second
intervals and rapidly changed positions wo so the sightings differ and opinions about when it's cited also
differ some people say they see it during the day but other people say it only comes out on clear very moonlit
nights oh I love that some people have been chased by this light they claim St some people also say they felt compelled
to follow it and have started to follow it and have made it pretty far and then they'll be startled when it appears
right behind them oo like it'll be like leading the way and then you'll like you'll lose track of it and you'll turn
around and it'll be right behind you and you're like what do you want what's up what's up like what are you trying to
tell me what do you need what's going on that's creepy One account also says that
they were pushed to the ground by the light but I don't personally think the light would be that
rude yeah I age I like the light I don't want the light to be that rude I don't think it is yeah now on Ghost Adventures
they actually did see a blinking light off in the distance it's [ __ ] clear as day I couldn't tell if it was blue
cuz of the night vision camera yeah but they captured it and it like moves and everything it was spooky as yeah that is
spooky now one of the more rare reported sightings is the yellow man yellow man mhm Peter creia wrote that the first
written record talking about the yellow Man sighting was in October of 1984 the Chicago Sun Times reported that
researcher Norman basil I think it is Saw The Apparition and took a photo using a thousand speeed film Norman
basil told them a month and a half ago I saw an apparition standing by a tree it
was a yellow figure a man with a hat probably in his 40s now so that's like what got reported but apparently that
night Norman and a group of paranormal researchers including Dale kasmarik I think is how
you say it he's the president of the ghost research society and he also I don't know if it's him who's responsible
if it's somebody in that society that took that famous picture of the white woman oh the woman in white oh [ __ ] um
but he was also camping with Norman and they were all you know doing research but it was one of the other researchers
supposedly who saw the yellow man and there actually wasn't a photo taken and they were all so shaken because because
after The Apparition disappeared they saw quote red streaking lights and watched in disbelief as a single tree
began to shake frantically what isn't that [ __ ] terrifying that is terrifying after they saw that they
packed up and got the [ __ ] out of there [ __ ] that I agree but another woman saw the yellow
man Apparition while she was investigating the area she was actually getting bored because she wasn't
experiencing anything like she went here with these hopes of you know seeing the
house cat ing the lady in white nothing was happening yeah and she was thinking like I'm going to pack up and head out
of here soon like nothing has happened and that's when she saw The Apparition oh [ __ ] yeah so The Apparition was like
all right you want to leave you're going to leave let me show you something now the crazy thing about this experience is
that she was there with two other people and she's the only one who saw it that's
weird but she literally saw it and just started running she left she was so scared she was like [ __ ] this nope
another woman who was investigating the cemetery nah Jen Janowski was distracted
and standing by one of the graves in the lot when she saw something out of the corner of her eye and at the time she
started to feel really dizzy and lightheaded she said but obviously she didn't want to miss the opportunity to
photograph whatever this was so she whipped around to take the photo and she realized that her camera was on a
completely different setting than the one she'd put it on oo she said once I started feeling dizzy it was almost as
though I was surround somehow surrounded and being guided to take this photo when
I grabbed my digitala camera I noticed that it was turning on and off by itself and it was on a different setting than
the one I had chosen earlier that's weird yeah now other uh haunts include people seeing Phantom old timey cars
like still driving on the road other versions of the blue light there's also people that see like red lights too okay
um some people have seen a phantom Black Dog either sitting at the entrance or running along the paths of the woods I
love a black dog I do too and guess what one of our listeners has has been to this Cemetery of course and wrote us a
captivating tale about multiple experiences that they've had course so this is lady's tale hell yeah lady says
Hey Y'all lady here I love you and your podcast so much and I binged nearly everything in about 3 weeks I haven't
heard Bachelor's Grove brought up before until now lady until now and just wanted
to share a few of my experiences from back in the day when I wasn't as much of a little [ __ ] about spooky things all
of these stories took place in the Years two of 2005 to 2007 while I was a teenager so they're probably less
dramatic than what really happened but they are things I will also never forget I also apologize that my broke ass is
writing this on my phone since I don't have a working computer all names have been changed so they wrote Bachelor's
Grove is a haunted cemetery in Illinois it's pretty Infamous for many reasons including uh producing one of the
clearest pictures ever produced of a spirit there are many fascinating tales about this place and I have a few of my
very own which are probably which uh probably aren't going to be exactly what you're expecting I I have three scary
ass experiences and an ending pallet cleanser that's relatively funny to set this up in order to get to the cemetery
you have to park at a forest preserve across the street and walk a trail that's about a half a mile long the
entrance to this Trail has a train has a chain across with a sign saying no trespassing so I'm assuming it's closed
I was just going to say maybe that gives us a little tip which naturally no one gave a [ __ ] about but the forest
preserved parking lot would close at sundown so there was also a long uh back Trail where you would need to park in a
neighborhood and walk a few blocks to the Forest Edge where that Trail began and eventually it meets up with the main
trail leading into the cemetery everything about this place is straight up creepy because of all the stories
surrounding the cemetery it naturally brought out flocks of teenagers that like to go there at night and it was
also a place to party thankfully we never partied out there and a few times we went during the day and would clean
up garbage left over from other people oh that's nice it is from the first time I went there I had a respect for the
area the graves were over 100 years old and this was a place that others abused which I do regret taking entertainment
from it however I'm glad I had these experiences because they've stuck with me all these years so to get to the
juice my first experience came at about 9:00 p.m. on a summer night when I was 16 my best friend Maggie and I decided
to go to the back Trail since all our plans fell through we walked a few blocks and came to the street that leads
to the back Trail we were joking around being kind of loud and annoying we got about a block away and my friend grabs
my arm and just stops me Maggie says what the [ __ ] and and points toward the entrance of the trail there's a massive
Buck standing in the entrance now deer are very common in in in Illinois so this isn't unheard of however this deer
did not move and it wouldn't take our its eyes off our faces we stared at it for a minute and I said [ __ ] no let's go
Maggie said to wait a minute since it'll just move I decided I did not want to be
gored by a deer that night so refused and said nope I have the keys let's bounce I like that a forth thought yeah
that's smart yeah as we went back and forth the car drove past this deer and it didn't move it kept staring at us and
that image still haunts me we started walking quickly to the car and turned back a few times and the deer never
moved what the after walking a few blocks we lost sight of the entrance thankfully but once we turned back there
was a dog sitting in the middle of the street just looking at us if it was the deer I would have literally combusted in
the middle of the street you're not supposed to run from a potential Predator but we just booked it the
remaining few blocks to my car fck isn't that weird that's creepy it's like I feel like there's like Spirits like in
the animals looking out for this place now second spooky at this time my mom and stepdad had an amazing dog named
George rip and he was a huge Rottweiler in German Shepherd mix he was the best dog I've ever met he was extremely
friendly and well- Tred the only time he would ever get aggressive is if you were
playing that way or if he came across other dogs and even then it was out of excitement I never saw him act
aggressively towards other people for no reason one day another friend Amanda and
I I decided to go to Bachelor's Grove and take Rocky with us I think the dog's name was Rocky but it got messed up at
the first part oh okay uh since it was during the day we parked across the street and went to the cemetery walked
around a bit and left after about an hour of just hanging out during this time we passed multiple people and a few
of them even came up to Rocky and petted him and did small talk in hindsight it's
kind of weird of people to do hiking banter when trespassing in a cemetery but anyway you know Rocky was so happy
since he loves the attention in the forest walking the short Trail back to to the car a large man wearing a black
leather trench coat was walking the other direction toward the forest not really weird and we initially were not
scared because there were people in the cemetery so we weren't necessarily alone
when we were about 30 feet away Rocky just stops I immediately got freaked out because he usually tries to approach
people and I usually have to hold him back but Rocky then stood in front of me and started growling toward this guy I
had to kneel down and wrap my arms around his chest to keep him from attacking that guy the dude didn't even
look at us he walked straight past us and nearly ran into the dog since he didn't even move over he never looked
back and after he turned toward the entrance of the cemetery Rocky calmed down enough for me to keep him walking
to the car so that was weird so that was weird final spooky and the last time I have ever been to the cemetery Amanda
and I had a sleepover and being the degenerate teenagers we were we stayed up all night and thought it would be
really cool to go to the Bachelor's Grove at dawn since we'd never done that before Dawn so it's summer still and we
get there at about 5:30 a.m. and the sun is rising it was a little foggy near the
ground but clear outside luckily the forest preserve parking lot was unlocked so we could take the short Trail we got
to the entrance of the trail and for some reason I just immediately felt dread I don't know how to explain it it
wasn't like a fight or flight or fight thing it was just an intense sadness but I just ignored it and we start walking
we never talked this whole way which I didn't realize until after the fact every step that I took felt heavy my
whole body felt like it was fighting to push through the space in front of me just to take a step all the while the
dread is growing I even feel kind of lightheaded about halfway down the trail I stopped Amanda also stopped and looked
at me and we just turned around and started walking back to the car now my figh ORF flight kicked in we went back
to the car and shared that we both felt similarly it was terrifying I've never felt that intense feeling of dread ever
again and I really hope I never do I literally never went back after that day and I never will holy [ __ ] which that
had to be like such an intense feeling yeah now for a relatively funny story a few weeks before for my final visit a
huge group of us Rowdy teenagers decided to go to the cemetery to hang out because why not violate a peaceful place
when you're bored and have nowhere to go see just what we were talking about as long as you're not tipping headstones
yeah so it was completely dark out and we needed to take the back way the walk was fine but we were super loud we get
to the cemetery and we break off into groups and walk around after about 10 minutes another group shows up running
in terrifying and said the thing all teenagers dread the [ __ ] cops are coming the cops everyone books it in
different direction keep in mind this is not a maintained Forest forested Area so
outside the short main trail to the cemetery it's a [ __ ] Forest so me and like three others trudge into this
haunted hell forest trying to find a path to the street so we can just walk back to the car after about an hour of
using our Nokia phones for light we finally get to the street so I am a 5-3 petite white ass girl and let me tell
you what people saw walking out of this haunted hell forest I was wearing black shorts and a dirty white tank top and I
was torn all up from the thorns and branches I had small Cuts all over my body including my face that were just
dripping blood at this point anyone driving past at that moment saw a child walk out of this haunted forest covered
in blood all over my body and no one stopped anyway you guys are great and I hope you come to Dallas or Chicago one
day stay weird thanks lady holy [ __ ] interesting Cemetery that Cemetery sounds gnarly I want to go to there I
want to go to there I want to go to there and I want to see the Madonna and I want to see dising house yes I think
we should go Chicago's not even that far let's go I have family in Chicago hi Tom
and Greg there you go hi Tom and Greg we love you we do they love you so much I love them love there's so much love here
so I think we need to go we're to see these freaking cemeteries let's go see some cemeteries let cuz I'm I want to
see the Westminster burying grounds but that's just in Maryland that's not even that far what road trip Cemetery [ __ ]
cemeter road trip let's do it oh my God someday someday wow someday it's just going to be bopping around the
cemeteries until then we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird but not so weird that you don't go visit
these cemeteries respectfully because they just sound so cool don't they respectfully r p e c fly find out what
it means to cemeteries oh my God that was great oh my God oh my God [Music] [Music]
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We continue to celebrate Spooky Season by touching on a few cemeteries that will make your spine tingle! Alaina tells us about the Westminster Hall and Burying Ground and its connection to a gothic icon. Ash dives into the stories about the Bachelor's Grove Cemetery and reads a first hand haunting account from a fellow weirdo!

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Brief Summary

Elena and Ash discuss haunted cemeteries, Edgar Allan Poe, and spooky season gifts from fans.

Key points

Spooky Season Gifts. Elena and Ash share their excitement about receiving thoughtful gifts from fans.
Morbid Collection Launch. Elena and Ash announce their new collection with Spencers, featuring fun merchandise.
Edgar Allan Poe's Mysterious Death. Exploring the strange circumstances surrounding Poe's death and burial.
The Mysterious Poe Visitor. Every year since the 1940s, a mysterious figure visits Edgar Allan Poe's grave on his birthday, leaving roses and a bottle of his favorite poison.
The Screaming Skull of Cambridge. A local minister's skull reportedly screams at night, driving people mad. After exhumation, it was gagged and encased in concrete.
Vandalism at Bachelor's Grove Cemetery. The cemetery has faced significant vandalism, including grave digging and headstone theft, leading to unmarked graves.

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Ash reflects on the joy of receiving thoughtful gifts.

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