Charlotte Fimiano /// Part 2 /// 699 | Forensic Files

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a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] early on into the murder investigation
of Charlotte fimiano the authorities were looking into another unsolved homicide now oddly enough Captain this
one took place three years prior and hundreds of miles away this is the still unsolved murder of Sherry L Lewis a
realtor from Decatur Illinois who was murdered on August 5th 1994. in a brief overview of that case is as follows on
August 5th 1994 30 year old Sherry L Lewis of Decatur Illinois she's a realtor she was found deceased in a
Macon County residence that was for sale which she had an appointment to show this home
Sherry's case has been re-examined and thoroughly investigated by Macon County Sheriff's Office under former Macon
County Sheriff Buffett assisted by special homicide investigator John Skaggs scallywag this is from the
justice for Sherry Lewis Facebook page they say their full investigative report containing overwhelming evidence solving
her brutal murder has been in the hands of Macon County State's Attorney's Office since May of 2018
former Macon County State's attorney Jay Scott failed to bring Justice for Sherry
Lewis this is they're trying to Rally here and try to get support to finally take this thing to trial if the evidence
warrants that so I'm bringing this up because it is all a part of the Charlotte femiano case this is something
that they reference and that police looked into now I don't know who reached out to who right I don't know if Decatur
Illinois reached out to the State Police in Pennsylvania or if the State Police in Pennsylvania reached
out to Macon County in Illinois but we do know that they were talking and they were
examining the details of both cases what we would later be told after a few months they're not saying that they are
ruling out the possibility that the two could be connected what they do say is we didn't find any direct connections
from one to the other I think in this episode captain and I'm reluctant to say this because I I'm
hesitant because I hate to go down these roads say it I might say it I think you're going to hear me say two things
in this episode that you've never heard me say in almost 700 episodes of True Crime garage that he appreciate my work
and my effort I say that all the time you just you just hit the stop button uh and and erase it in the editing process
and the people think I hate you so but hear what's weird to me Captain I never think that these cases I I think maybe
in the alphabet murders case that we talked about that that might be the only other time that I was like yeah these
two cases that are hundreds of miles away and years apart might be connected I almost never say that because I never
believe it and guess what it's because the numbers don't pan out it's almost never true yeah statistically it's it's
very low but this this case is strange because you're pointing something you know off mic before is if you Google
search images of either one of these victims they look very similar it's that's exactly right and here here's the
weird thing like the only reason why this rattled me a little bit I I don't think that they're connected I
want to say that but there's one stunning fact that that is of course my opinion
but I can't get over it when I was is it a fact or a opinion it's a opinionated fact David the the
thing is though when I was first reviewing Charlotte femiano's case I saw a picture of Sherry L Lewis but it
wasn't labeled and I just made the assumption that it was a picture of her from maybe 10 or 12 years earlier prior
to the her murder and then when I looked up sharielle Lewis just Google image like you said
the first picture that came up I thought well they got it wrong that's just an old picture of Charlotte femiano
and sure enough I'd click on a couple websites and very quickly realize no that is a picture of Sherry Lewis to me
they look very similar yeah Charlotte looks like she could be Sherry's mother so Sherry's 30 years old when she's
killed and Charlotte's 40 when she's killed and again I I mean not exactly spot on but at first glance it was
enough for me to think that the Sherry Lewis picture was a picture of Charlotte when she was 28
or 30 years old for me it's got me a little rattled because I can't get over the fact
that they were both working in the same line of work the same title job title they look very similar and that they
were both showing a home that they had an appointment now Sherry was beaten and strangled and then we know in
Charlotte's case it was a gun in ligature strangulation I don't know enough details of the
Sherry Lewis case to 100 say that I think that they're connected my gut tells me that they're not
but we do know that police looked at it we do know that they did say they couldn't find any direct connection
between the two now if you go to that Justice for Sherry Lewis Facebook page you're also going to find at least one
or two other realtors that were killed there's one from 1984. oddly enough September 11
1984 which would be exactly 13 years before Charlotte fimiano was killed so just some very weird strange things
with this case and I've got to tell you captain on the surface this case to me was very intriguing
but there's this case is very fascinating and I hate to say that because there are
people that are are related and loved Charlotte and we're great friends with her
and I hate that they would hear or have to hear some schmuck in a garage yeah pencil dick it's a beer and a half deep
say this case is fascinating you know it but but I feel okay to say it here in this case because oddly enough I was
reviewing material and found a detective that was working on this case and he said those exact words all right so two
wrongs make a right that's really stuck with me in this case because I told you I told you when I arrived at the garage
today I will be happy to be done with these episodes because this case is is really messed with me over the past
three to four days there's something very funny about this case that I can't quite put my finger on and I I feel like
it's just one piece of the puzzle that's that's just missing that's that would put this whole thing together there's
something very strange about this Charlotte femiano case that's that's really got me shook
can I say a thought that I had without you uh putting me in the old pervert Roundup crew
sure but the one one of the things that kind of stuck out to me and this is because we
don't know if she was targeted or if it was just this location was targeted and I would just or I hate to interrupt
yeah you hate that but keep in mind we don't know if either were targeted right but continue I'm sorry but we do know
because of the call into the real estate company we we don't know if there was multiple calls that day from that number
I would think that's something that law enforcement would want to look up because what if this killer calls in a
male answers the phone and then they talk for a little bit but make no appointment and
then call back and what if there was evidence that they kept calling back until they got a
female Victim Because what do we know about crimes and killers there a lot of the crimes are sexually
motivated and so that would seem a little strange as far as like this whole realtor scenario
and this is where I don't want people going wow that Captain he's one pervert but uh
I'm gonna shift this a little bit pornography there's a real estate agent category
and pornography so I just don't think it's that far of a stretch for again a sexually motivated crime for
somebody to be watching this category and then developing a sicker fantasy does that does that
make any sense yeah I mean obviously here's the thing I I shouldn't say Obviously it makes total sense to me
because what we've seen time and time again especially with serial offenders is that sex and violence is all wrapped
up into one ugly package for them right and a lot of them will use pornographic materials to
kind of keep those urges at Bay and so yes it to me it makes complete and total sense I am
very glad that you started to go down this road what I wanted to point out here is you love looking at porn the facts
okay we're going to get into a lot of opinion stuff a lot of theories a lot of speculation here and there's a lot of it
in this case and I think that is in part why the detective even States this is such a fascinating case
but when you break it down in its simplest of forms what do we know what do we know about the Killer
we know only two things in my opinion a they were looking for a victim they called and made an appointment and
were looking for a victim now you can throw in some variables there where they targeting Charlotte when they
called right or were they just hoping for as you said a female realtor victim then you go okay location
the location seems to be important well it might not this location itself could have been targeted or not targeted we
don't know because we don't know the details of that conversation between Charlotte and the person that she had on
the phone well let's just be clear on something and maybe you can clear this up for me and the listening the
beautiful listeners like I like to say a fictitious name was given correct I'm assuming that we know whether that was a
male name that was given our female name my guess is that it has to be a male name from my understanding the name's
never been released but what we do know is that Charlotte did tell at least one other person that she
worked with that she had this appointment with it and it was a male caller so for him to give a female name
would seem to be a little bit of uh uh that would be a good indicator of maybe I shouldn't go on this appointment or
take this call seriously but back to what do we know we do know that regardless if she was targeted or not we
know that the killer was looking for a victim with that phone call number one and number two is
it's a premeditated murder a gun was used in this homicide and it is not recovered at the scene so
it didn't come from the vacant home he likely didn't pull it off of Charlotte in some kind of scuffle the this killer
was looking for a victim and arrived on the scene prepared and ready to kill right but I also just want to be clear
so just because we have a male caller doesn't necessarily mean that we have a male killer correct correct and and
that's why I that's why I wanted to go down that road in the last episode to point out very clearly that
while it stands to reason that the most likely perpetrator of this homicide is that caller who arranged that meeting
it's not out of the realm of complete possibility that that the person that called is not the person that killed
right somebody could have set up this Arrangement and then she arrives and she's either ambushed or there's a sneak
attack by somebody should she did not anticipate of seeing there at that home and that person then killed her
and I think that's why in part this case is so fascinating because there's so much of the speculation that can lead
you to very certain theories but there's but everything's very open-ended with this case it leaves the possibilities
very open in this case now I want to get into Circle back to the phone calls because ring ring ring many
sources tell us one thing and only one source that I could find tells us a further detail on that item right so
we talked about this Arrangement was made the day prior the day before the murder
we would later learn police would eventually come off in in the corner or eventually come off and narrow down that
window of time and question for us the time of death which is so important and key to any investigation because that
goes to means and opportunity right and we said during the trailer that means an
opportunity are the are the very best tools deciding factors to separate a good suspect from anybody
else who actually was unaccounted for for during the time of death right now they narrowed down the time of death and
later released it to be first they were saying 1 to 4 P.M and that I think the police may have
been forced to kind of show their hand on this one because what happened Captain was two weeks after the murder
she's murdered on a Thursday on a Thursday Two Weeks Later police set up a bunch of roadblocks
in that neighborhood and surrounding that neighborhood and they were stopping all passer buyers and asking them if
they regularly travel in this area if if they happen to be there two weeks prior
between the hours of 1 and 4 pm and so these people were later interviewed by news stations and they're
like yeah you know what the what were the police asking you well here you know they're asking me this that and the
other thing but they wanted to know if I was here two Thursdays ago between one and four
pm so that kind of shows you right away that they've already honed in on that that time period that three hour window
one to four pm the police and then later the police come out and say the time of death the suspected time
of death is between 1 and 3 P.M so they got a two-hour window that killer had to get into that area
and out of that area and she was killed sometime between one and three now another thing that we would later
learn several sources come out months later that say Charlotte went out to that appointment
and then returned to the office and told several people that she worked with that
she got stood up that the male caller that made the appointment never arrived and she got tired of waiting around and
came back to the office all right what happens then is once she's back at the office
phone rings wing wing she takes the call hello it's the person she had the appointment with saying oh I got I got
tied up I couldn't make it to the appointment I was running late could could we still go and see the house well
again though this is also kind of a remote area is it possible that the killer win to find the house and just
couldn't find the house well again we don't know the details of that and and there are several people in their
reports that have said over the years well she was a real go-getter she wouldn't turn down the opportunity to
show a house and sell the house yeah that's true I get that but let's take it a step further she's been doing this for
like 15 16 years I'm sure it's not the first time that somebody has called and said I got tied up in a meeting I I got
caught in traffic I uh my kids suck and I couldn't leave the house um you know so she's probably had
several times that somebody didn't show or was running late and so this probably didn't didn't set
her off didn't raise any flags for Charlotte and she tells a couple people this at the office and then she goes out
and meets she goes to that that appointment back at the house on Chelsea Lane and we do know that she's killed there
here's here's some of the details that that really set me off in this case captain and I kept harping on this
yesterday the devil's in the details the problem with these details is said time and time again she went for a
one o'clock appointment and then she was killed and we do know the time and question that suspect the time of death
is between 1 and 3 pm what was the original Arrangement if if he calls and says I couldn't make it and
could we could we still go see the house and the people at the office are saying
well she left at one o'clock and she had a one o'clock appointment what was the original Arrangement was it
for 11 A.M or noon and he didn't make it or was the appointment always for one and she actually came back and then left
after one o'clock which doesn't seem to stand a reason because if people saw her
alive at one o'clock or 1 15 or 1 30 then you're suspected time of death wouldn't be between one and three
exactly and the reason why I'm focusing in on this so much and why this pisses me off that we do not know this detail
and you know what there are people out there that know this detail clarification please because
her husband who would be ruled out as far as police say because it's about three or four months into the
investigation there's a newspaper headline comes out that the police have eliminated have ruled out husband in
Realtors death they rule him out why did they rule him out he has an alibi hmm did some digging Christian's work
schedule he worked 10 hour days he had a 20 to 30 minute commute to his job his his schedule was 1 pm to 11 pm
makes a lot of sense and we know that there are other things backing up that information because what he gets home
after 11 pm he gets home a little after 11 30 talks to his his daughter calls in
that his wife is missing the reason why that time period is so important to me and what the original
appointment was for what time it was for was because even though police say that
they have moved on from the family that they have ruled out the husband they tell us they're ruling out the husband
because they can confirm 100 that he was at work between 1pm and 11 p.m on that Thursday and had
a 20 to 30 minute commute both ways if someone and I've I never say this on True Crime garage if someone were to set
up a hit and it were to be a husband to take out his wife what time am I scheduling it for when I'm at work when
I'm accounted for when I'm going to have dozens of people tell you nope I didn't
kill my wife because they all saw me hanging out there they all saw me working there
the reason why I think that this detail is so important is because if it was a in fact a hit that was arranged by the
husband it would it would fall in line with some of the details we do know about the case
Charlotte wouldn't may not recognize the voice of the person he hired especially if she
doesn't know who the person is that he he hired but two if the caller on Wednesday originally
scheduled the appointment for one it it drives me mad to to sit there and think that it's happenstance that this
appointment is scheduled for a Time that this dude's also scheduled to be at work I'm not saying that the two camp
both have happened I'm saying it it leads me to believe and I've never said on the show before that
I think that there's a hit I think that this case is a hit I think that what I think the most too plausible things to
me are either a a complete freaking stranger killed this woman right and I think if that's the case they may never
solve this case most likely not they have been so tight-lipped about some things I think
that that police think they have an idea of what actually happened here and so let's take this a few steps
further well there's I'm not saying that it is concrete evidence but sometimes that's why law enforcement is
very tight-lipped about things is because there's certain pieces of of evidence that they
they know can't get out because it would basically crumble their whole case against a certain individual
to let's say they they wanted to follow the husband to see if he could lead them to
the killer or if they wanted to tap his phone or uh surveil this guy what better way to get him to act to
lead you to the killer than to publicly say well we rolled him out we ruled him out because we confirmed 100 that he was
at work that day during the time in question yeah because just because they roll you out
to a public you know newspaper or whatever or even tell him to his face we ruled
you out the police are allowed to lie during an investigation well not only that they're
ruling him out as the killer they're not ruling him out as being involved in the
homicide exactly ruling him out as the actual killer but also law enforcement is not the only tight lip
organization quote unquote in in this case sometimes you have a case where look at Delphi
very tight-lipped law enforcement very vocal family trying to get the word out uh trying to
get information coming in this one tight-lipped law enforcement and seems like the family was pretty
tight-lipped as well yeah and and we need to be completely Fair here because they could the family meaning her
daughter and her husband they could have been tight-lipped and shy away from the cameras or the
newspapers just out of pure Devastation their world is completely turned upside down they're completely heartbroken and
that's why they didn't do so much talking to the media one thing that does make me doubt this
husband being involved a little bit is the the fact that we do know and I had to do
a good amount of digging to figure this out that the husband was the one that actually called 9-1-1 the following
morning and it led to her body being found now it also wouldn't be the first time that somebody would lead police to
a body of somebody that they've killed well because it'd be pretty suspicious your wife doesn't come home
yeah in the morning you're like well I I guess she just didn't come home last night yes I don't have to make as much
coffee in the morning yeah let's get back to the other possibility that I don't think we can rule out either is
the complete stranger possibility stranger danger somebody cold calls this realtor office looking for a victim and
needs a secluded vacant ready to move into home to carry out their the dirty deed of of homicide done dirt cheap
one thing that that for me pointed away from a complete stranger is won the motive
yes it could be a Thrill Kill but many of these thrill kills are sexually motivated there's a sexual component to
them now one detail that has been released is that Charlotte was not only found fully clothed but still wearing
her coat her jacket so that may suggest to many that they're was no sexual component to
the case but I'm I'm gonna throw a wrench into everything that that most people believe about homicides when they
try to look at a crime scene and please allow me Captain to talk out of both sides of my face at the same time
normally do but this comes from a very well respected detective and somebody that we've talked about on the show
before Joe Kennedy he says be careful and do not assume there is a close personal relationship between the
suspect and victim based on evidence of Overkill example excessive stab wounds extensive blood force trauma
Etc at the crime scene if ligatures and restraining devices are present there was likely a sexual
component to the murder this should be considered before exploring other motives unless it is obvious another
crime gone bad robbery burglary home invasion or the victim was restrained so the primary crime could be completed
okay so that's that's interesting to to observe here because there is somewhat of Overkill involved in this case we
mentioned ligature strangulation we mentioned The Gunshot she was actually shot twice once in the back of the head
and once in the face just below the left eye what Kennedy is pointing out here is
that just that act of strangulation ligature strangulation may even though our victims found completely clothed
could still have a sexual component to it so with that with that possible sexual
component I don't think that we can completely rule out the idea of a complete stranger a complete pervert
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cheers Captain it's getting hot here in the garage Colonel's getting hot tub Colonel's
getting angry and worked up here now no this is a it's these are difficult because again
a setup job for who for um a hired killer or just let's have a mail call but who's waiting there for her her
husband yeah I I would say he couldn't he couldn't have been there we we know that to be fact
right we know 100 he was at work at the time that she was murdered right right but I was just trying to point out like
I have a male caller and then a female real estate agent that has some kind of beef with her
I would think because this is such a possibility that there would be some rumors of
possible infidelity in in her relationship and Charlotte's relationship with her husband so I did
catch some wind of those rumors um I but none of that comes from any of the newspapers or any of what I would
consider to be trusted sources none of it ever comes from police from my understanding that those rumors
might have been office talk office gossip um there there are people that expand on
that a little bit that say that he suspected her of having an affair and she was adamant that she was not having
an affair there are other people that say that the office gossip was that she might have been romantically seeing a
client or maybe another agent I mean if you were to have an affair this would be
uh a line of work that would would complement hiding that from your spouse right we've all seen American Beauty
yeah you'd be doing it in every house all over the city okay maybe you would be pervert Roundup but
here in in who knows maybe there is some truth to those rumors but maybe there's
not again I don't I wouldn't say that any of those rumors are coming from trusted sources a quick way to push
somebody into having an affair is constantly accused them of having an affair when they're not having an affair
well there's some weird again there's a lot of weird stuff about this case and I
haven't got to the weirdest of it all but the one weird thing too is the the couple the femianos had just moved into
what was kind of like a life goal for them they had moved into a new home six weeks or eight weeks before she's
killed they bought a piece of land and had a whole a custom home built on that piece
of land and they had her daughter his stepdaughter again I want to be very clear about this
there's no indication that this guy was a bad husband or a bad stepfather and I know that I said well maybe he
ordered a hit on his wife yeah I get it but everything that I've seen what is it
well but listen for a second I want that's what I'm going out of my way to point this out because
I'm saying that there are details of the case that lead you to that theory time and time again there's nothing in his
personality that leads you to that theory his personality from my understanding Captain this man passed
away in 2014 and maintained a very close relationship with his stepdaughter up until the day he died
and not only close relationship keep in mind she and her I believe it was even her fiancee was living with the femianos
at the time of Charlotte's death right and I believe that his stepdaughter and fiance then turned husband lived with
him for several years after Charlotte was murdered and look this guy was a successful guy so he he's no dummy and
but and I say that because when your wife is murdered of course law enforcement is going to look at you you
should expect that I think it's the ones that fight that and it doesn't seem like this
individual thought that at all it seems like in every turn that the family was cooperative with law enforcement
when law enforcement is tight-lipped you're going to get more rumors and more speculation that just happens in these
cases every police said along the way is that the family was extremely Cooperative with their
investigation and I believe he's the only individual the husband is the only individual that they cleared publicly
correct now here's here's the weirdest and strangest of the details and the this is what circles back to what I was
talking about earlier the fact that we have several people come forward very trusted sources saying
that Charlotte returned to the office then received another phone call and then went back to the property
now to be clear if she was running around on her husband she may not have been at that property
in the first place and these calls could be there could be a more mysterious element to them maybe she's lying about
her whereabouts maybe she's lying about who she talked to her comings and goings
right that would stand to reason if she is having a secret affair but let's push that completely aside and
go down this road there is a source out there that says and I'm throwing out a buyer beware here
on this on this information but I also don't have any even though I've not been able to confirm it double triple check
it I don't really have any reason to doubt the information either or the source the information is that now we have two
phone calls that police are going to be concerned about the one setting up the appointment
for the next day which would be the day of the murder and then the one that she receives when she returns saying oh that
person stood me up never showed up at the meeting I I came back and then gets another phone call and goes back out
this Source says that police attempted to locate where those calls came from and that they could not determine the
source of the first call but they did the second call now this is going to be pretty simple
when I lay it out for you the second call they traced it back to a pay phone at a local mall
and it's my understanding that in 1997 where this phone was this pay phone it was
across the street within viewing distance of the real estate office that Charlotte worked at
now that's strange r going through all these other previous homicide cases that we've covered we can
we can fill in some of the blanks for you here if you've not listened to all 690 episodes of our wonderful garage
coverage we know that that these are not cell phones you know nowadays we talk about DNA solving murder cases
cell phones are solving just as many murder cases if not more than DNA that's because the phone can track you
they can track the victim they can trace the victim they can trace the communications with the victim with the
in some cases with the murderer 1997 not so many cell phones out there but what they can determine is we know
that back then that they could easily find a location of a call if there was if there was billing involved if it was
not going to be a free call well the pay phone obviously is not a free call somebody somebody dropped the quarter
into the slot and called the real estate office spoke to Charlotte and said you know what I was running late and
according to that Source it came from that pay phone at that mall across the street from the real estate office the
first call they couldn't track it why because it probably came from a residential
location in that same area code where there was no long distance calling needed so for me there the there is added
problems with that that situation learn how to speak please because when we look at these cases
don't we usually try to determine when we have an unknown perpetrator we try to apply the evidence and the facts as they
were to see and get gather if if we can get some insights into the Killer and if
they have any criminal sophistication to me this at first at first glance I thought this is potentially showing some
signs of criminal sophistication however I think I think there's two sides to that coin Captain I think with this
situation you one could go you know what I don't know any better I don't know if
they can track that call yesterday to my house but what I do know is there's probably
if they can if they can track calls let's make it let's not show up to the appointment and let's make a second call
from somewhere else and then that way if at least if they trace the first call to
me at the very least that they're going to have another call with another appointment
that moves them they can't completely hone in on me because there's another call with another appointment
so it's a weird situation where it could be a default reaction to oh [ __ ] I used
my home phone number to call this lady or it could be uh I know what I'm doing and let's make
a a second call this case again is all screwy in in all funny and fascinating and weird you
reference red light case this is a bang my head against the desk case yeah because on there's so many
possibilities there's roads that lead you to a stranger there's roads that lead you to
a competitor that may have wanted to offer because she's so successful taking business from them and then there's
roads that lead you back to her husband or if she is having an affair maybe to the person she's having an affair with
yeah let's just go through this very slowly a guy has a fantasy of killing a woman
he finds a remote location he calls he meets her out there he kills her or there's a female hey
she's having an affair with this lady's husband she has a male call the woman meets her out there kills her
or hires a hit the husband hires a hit and has the killer call or like you said she's
having an affair and the guy the the phone call in general was a phony phone call and she knew it was a funny phone
call I mean there's so many possibilities I think because of the strangulation and the shots
it's almost like the shots were like to make sure that she was dead well a couple thoughts that I have on if it
were if she were targeted or not right because if it was a stranger then you would believe that that she's
probably not targeted if it were a perfect stranger she's probably not targeted but then again how
perfect could The Stranger be they weren't able to trace the first call so that came within her area code
but but here's the thing if if somebody wanted to Target her but make it look like she wasn't targeted
somebody that knew her schedule or had a general feel for how that Opera that operation the the office operated where
they put people on the phones on a rotation to take these cold calls and to take the walk-ins
somebody may know that information especially somebody she works with I'd like to know too especially her husband
I'd like to know if there was any male walk-ins that day because what go ahead I'm sorry I was going to say
because you know most of the time the the killer has a a vision of their victim and so by that
by the calls being traced back to a pay phone that's really close to their office it would
make some sense oh I'm just going to go in the office and see which girls are working today
and okay well this one will do well there's a pay phone across the street I'll go make the call and sub the
appointment there not going to assume that it's the same person why would I well I what why one
and I just made the appointment while I was there well because I don't want that
appointment traced back to me so I wonder if there's any walk-ins that day there's a couple things that I want
to know and I think that the police probably know the answer to at least one of these questions
I do know that her husband for in 1997 I do know that he did own a cell phone which is not common in 1997. now we do
know that they traced the one call that came in via the pay phone or or at least
that Source tells us that they did I wonder all of those calls on his cell phone would have been billed
did they did they do a background check on his call log for that cell phone right that would be interesting I don't
care so much about the walk-ins I understand why you you would want to know and other people would want to know
here's what I want to know we know that two people were Manning the phones that week
if you were to Target Charlotte right if I'm setting up a hit here's what I need
I need my Hitman to arrange a meeting with my target with my hip but I want to muddy the waters and make
and not create a trail from the Target to my Hitman to me right how could I do that well if I have an
understanding of how that office operates that works right away the people that would have
that knowledge would be people that work there or people close to people that work
there and her husband so if I know that my target is going to be one of two people manning the phones
that week is it as simple as having my Hitman call in and go because here's here's typically
what happens especially look customer service ain't what it used to be my friend I don't
care who you are but or where you're from it ain't what it used to be but back in the day 1997 I can get I would
wager Franklin you love it when I wager Franklin's I'm down like 900 Franklin's now yeah I wager Franklin than 1997 90
of the time when somebody answers a call at that real estate office for these cold calls when they're put on the desk
that week they go uh thank you for calling True Crime garage real estate office this is the crispy Colonel how may I
direct your call this is the crispy Colonel how can I help you and guess what if your target is Charlotte
all your Hitman has to do if she doesn't pick up the phone is click click as soon as that other lady who's
answering the phones or some guy that might have answered the phone that day if it's a guy's voice easy hang up
that's not your target if someone picks up the phone says this is Sharon how can I help you well Sharon's
not your target click and you call back later you got a 50 50 shot of getting Charlotte on the phone if you know the
operations of that office for that week I I cannot get past the fact that I I don't know who hired the hit I think
this was absolutely a hit I don't think it was a stranger crime I think that there's too many
connecting factors I think that the The Stranger would have to know too much and the reason why I think it's a hit is
I think that Charlotte was too smart that I think she would have recognized you know how someone from her office
calls how do they disguise their voice 50 people in that office yeah you're not gonna maybe know everyone's voice on the
phone but it but it it seems unlikely and here's why I say hit too they say and we hear this all the time
in homicides but here especially in this in this case gunshot wounds ligature strangulation
and oftentimes the coroner will tell us both could have caused the death well both could have caused the death
but both didn't cause the death one of them caused the death and guess guess what is the absolute weapon most
of the time a gun the gun caused her death I think this shows signs of a hit because I think that the guy showed up
with the intention of going to a secluded place in a vacant house one-on-one and when he confirmed that
she was there by herself he went in for the kill with the strangulation and what
do we know and what have we said a hundred times on the show Killers have told us it is surprisingly difficult at
times to strangle someone to death she could have come to and he decided I don't care if this gets loud I gotta
make sure that I do what I was sent here to do and I think that that's when the gun
come came into play yeah or even so it's uh strangulation first and then they like I said before
the gunshots are just to make sure that there's no chance that she's surviving the strangulation
and sometimes we like to give a little homework out there if anybody can find like a a real true very good source that
that backs up the information that police and we're talking I want this from like a local newspaper
a statement coming from the the police the investigating agency a detective or the state police saying we traced that
second call to a pay phone because if that information is incorrect that changes that's a game changer right
there so if anybody can can send us a link to that hit us up on Twitter Instagram or put it on our blog on True
Crime garage.com that's information that we need to know this case is is incredibly interesting
there's a lot of a lot of problems and a lot of puzzle pieces missing from this case we want to hear what you think and
what your thoughts are we also want to remind you that there is still a reward for information in this case now
we talked about the real estate office offering up a hundred grand back in the day that for my understanding that
reward is no longer available I mean it was 26 years ago but from what I could find here Captain
this is uh dated December 16 2021 the Pennsylvania State Police continues their investigation into the
homicide of 40-year-old Charlotte fimiano Charlotte femiano an agent with Weichert Realtors failed to return home
after showing a home to an unknown client on September 11 1997. it was determined that her last destination was
a vacant home for sale at 2147 Chelsea Lane Hellertown lower sock'em Township Northampton County Law Enforcement
discovered her body in the vacant home during the early morning hours of 9 12 1997. Charlotte had been strangled and
shot to death anyone with information on this case is asked to anonymously contact the Pennsylvania Crime Stoppers
toll-free at 1-800-4pa tips that's 1-800-4 PA 8477 [Music] thank you [Music] I want to thank everybody so much for
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A violent murder takes place in a home that sat vacant and silent at the dead end of Chelsea Lane. The home was listed for sale with a local realty company. One of the companies’ realtors Charlotte Fimiano drove out to the location and was killed there. Was the killer someone she knew? Or could this be a thrill killer? Run into the Garage for a couple of cold ones and listen to this True Crime story. Find out why Nic calls this “one of the most frustrating cases” that the boys have reviewed.

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Brief Summary

Charlotte Fimiano's unsolved murder raises questions of connection to Sherry L. Lewis and theories about potential motives and suspects.

Key points

Murder Investigation Begins. Early into the investigation of Charlotte Femiano, authorities look into another unsolved homicide.
The Connection Between Cases. Discussion on the potential connection between Charlotte's and Sherry's murders.
The Killer's Profile. Exploring the possibility that the killer was looking for a specific victim.
Time of Death Speculation. Police narrow down the time of death for Charlotte Femiano's murder.
The Husband's Alibi. Discussion on the husband's alibi and its implications for the investigation.
The Case of a Stranger. The possibility of a stranger being involved raises questions about the motive.

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