Candace Hiltz /// Part 2 /// 141 | Forensic Files

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grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime foreign [Music] Candace hiltz who was just 17 years old
was murdered on August 15 2006. she was described at the time as a teen mother who had an 11 month old daughter
Candace's family said Candace hiltz had an altercation of some sort with an officer at the sheriff's office about a
week before she was killed just days before her death the family's dog went missing James hilts Candace's older
brother was a person of interest in the murder but was never charged multiple family members who have spoken out all
say James hiltz was not the murderer and that he wouldn't have hurt his younger sister now we said yesterday Captain
that Candace's daughter Paige was born with an illness and unfortunately a little more than six years after
Candace's murder Paige passed away the murder investigation went cold for many years they're saying seemed to be no new
suspects no new clues or leads in fact it appears that despite everything said by the hilt's family the sheriff office
seems to have set their sights on Candace's brother James and for much of this investigation and probably to this
day they still believe that he did this or was in fact involved Dolores wanted the autopsy release to the public she
believed that there was information in the in there that would clear this thing up or at least clear her son James well
the hilts family got their wish and the autopsy was eventually released and I'll
read most of this article to you regarding this this is titled release to the public autopsy Candace hiltz shot
seven times three different types of guns could have been used this is from The Daily Record you sure you don't want
me to stutter through it I I'll let you hold my hand um so here we go details from Candace
hilt's autopsy revealed that she was maliciously murdered this is obtained from the Fremont County coroner under
the Colorado open records act the formal autopsy states that Hill was found dead
August 15 2006 she was shot seven times total six in the head and one in the chest the autopsy also reveals that
three types of guns could have been used in her murder and that she was shot both
in the front and in the back the autopsy said hiltz was shot from the front once
in the head with a shotgun and then five times in the back with a gun of a small
caliber she also was shot once in the chest from the front with a gun of a medium caliber the paths of the bullets
are steeply downward back to front and left to right the autopsy States regarding the shotguns from the back
in a previous interview with Candace Candace hilt's mother Dolores hilts she implied that the bullets going downwards
seemed like someone either executed her daughter or that there were two Shooters
however the autopsy doesn't present evidence that the guns were fired at a close range or the order she was shot
but there's a bunch of evidence that points that she was murdered in her house so it'd have to be at least
somewhat close range it wouldn't be a of a considerable distance no uh besides detailing where Candace hiltz was shot
how many times she was shot the different bullets found the autopsy also details what occurred when Candace hiltz
was discovered according to the autopsy Candace hiltz was last seen alive at noon and was later found by her
boyfriend who was not named in the report the boyfriend of the deceased had left to go to Canon City and then drove
home the report said adding that he eventually arrived at Candace hilt's house when he heard the one-year-old
infant screaming he entered the residence saw blood and picked up the baby who appeared to be unharmed he then
went outside with the baby and took her to his wife oh what he took the baby to his wife but this is
Candace's boyfriend according to the autopsy it's Candace's boyfriend yes uh this that makes zero sense so he goes in
sees that his girlfriend's dead takes his girlfriend's baby which is not his baby
and then takes the baby to his wife all right that's what this document States um continuing on we'll we'll get into
this Captain there's a lot to discuss here that makes zero sense this man then returned to the deceased home and found
the deceased placed underneath the bed unresponsive the report said she was pronounced dead at 5 23 PM now
Dolores hilts in a previous interview said that she had first found her daughter wrapped in a blanket underneath
the bed also but didn't mention anything about a boyfriend finding her daughter after the evidence was discovered and
reported each family member who spoke with the Daily Record about it and about the murder investigation all said that
James hiltz did not kill Candace hilts okay so that's the newspaper article well that look now we have some issues
because we have one Dolores she's saying I found my daughter she has always said
that yes and then I called the police and now we have this other guy which we don't know his name
so I don't even know what to call him okay you want me to clear all this up for you no I'm trying to come up with
the name for this guy first I'll call him Reginald wife girlfriend combo there you go okay I'll call him Reggie for
short Okay so let's we there's so much ground to cover here Captain I'm I'm almost spinning
trying to figure out where to start first of all and that's the PO who's you know all right so this autopsy did
not get released to the public for many years after Candace's murder okay so let's be clear about that second of all
this is a second hand account we're hearing this through you know the media they could have chosen to leave things
out um they could have misspoke on certain things I don't get the vibe that that
happened but I do want to be clear this is a second-hand account of this autopsy
it's not us looking at it with our own eyes right now why is it important that this autopsy didn't come out for many
years for several reasons one is that Dolores hiltz said for years that when she would think about the case she would
go to the Sheriff's Office and she would look through the case File stating that the case File was about 2
000 pages and within that case File was the autopsy well good for her you know good for her but I I don't know what's
going on over at that Sheriff's Office either she is has misspoken um to put it politely or they're letting
people involved in the Inner Circle of a victim look at a case File that seems like strange
doings to me um now regardless she has said to the media for many years you know there's
something strange going on here the Sheriff's Office might they're either hiding something or they might be
involved in this murder uh get the autopsy because I've read it this is her words
I've read it once you read the autopsy it's gonna it's gonna present things in a different light and you're going to
see what I'm talking about well what it presents is that we don't know if Flores
was telling the truth or not about finding the daughter that's what it right proves which is so
that's so weird to me okay so first of all you have this situation where it almost sounds like Dolores is lying
about finding her daughter and let's be clear I mean we understand that that her
daughter died and that she's probably doing everything she can to figure out how this happened but you know we have
to point out the obvious things so I don't want something saying well they're complaining no we're not we're trying to
look through this thing this thing is look Captain we stepped in it this week all right I'll tell you that we stepped
in it this thing is a mess yeah you stepped it in you brought into the garage and I'm gonna have to get out
that bleach and I'm gonna have to do a lot of cleaning this week so I look I apologize that there's so much to sift
through here but comes walking in with his night costume on swinging the sword everywhere
it's embarrassing anyway so we have Dolores who is telling the media to seek out this autopsy now if in fact she had
seen the autopsy in advance and is telling the media to seek it out well that makes me that makes me believe she
has nothing to hide from what they're going to find in the autopsy yeah and I think that's her actions time and time
again though is that she really doesn't have much to hide so that's where I you got to start believing some of the stuff
that she says because why would she be pointing at evidence that you know makes her look in a bad light oh and you know
what I kind of I kind of pooh-pooed on the sheriff's department there and I misspoke okay so just I want to be clear
because I just reviewed my notes Here uh it says that she stopped by the public defender's office on several occasions
and reviewed the case File there which can't which contained an autopsy report okay okay so a little different right
right a little different there um all right so the first question is who actually found Candace was it this
was it this boyfriend who then took the baby back to his wife Reginald yeah Reggie takes the baby back to his wife
and then goes back and finds Candace here's the clear-cut problem with this whole situation it can't be both there's
no way that this thing could get misconstrued to be being both because in both stories it's one completely
different person by themselves finding the baby and then finding the the Candace no it's not my friend
because he has this baby he finds the baby and he drives back to his wife yeah where's her Alibi okay let's just paint
this picture he shows up with his girlfriend or with his wife his girlfriend's house
they they murder her right okay who finds the body oh the guy that murdered her what a convenient cover-up well and then
whose Alibi is who oh my wife's alibi we didn't kill my girlfriend and there was two people involved in the
murder I'm just saying I'm just putting that out there as a possibility well I know that we named this guy Reggie but
the reports that we see regarding the autopsy they do not name this guy they do not name his wife now what Dolores
would would tell the media is that this is just one of several problems with the
autopsy itself well you're right but there's that's also several problems with the investigation because we have
no name of this person so and we also have factual evidence that law enforcement Left Behind evidence well so
so we know that they have bonkered up this case a little bit that you know they they gummed up the pipes right so
what happened with this guy well the autopsy itself could say his name the the newspaper that released this
information may not have felt like they could release it no no then that's fair um I'm guessing that his name appear
years in the autopsy but what I'm stating is that we have evidence that proves that they're incompetent on
certain levels of this investigation and that might have been an Avenue where they put their blinders on and they go
you know what a girl ends up dead and we we've been looking for a crazy brother he's our number one suspect well your
number one spot suspect might be the guy that's taken a baby to his wife that he
got from his girlfriend his dead girlfriend's house maybe that should be your first number
one suspect that would be mine well Dolores says that this was not Candace's boyfriend first of all that that was
something that they just got wrong that she didn't have a boyfriend okay okay this is just Kim So second of all second
of all the the person that they are talking about is not married so there's there's several there's
several problems with that statement in the autopsy this according to Dolores however she states that this man was a
friend of a neighbor I'm sorry I said that wrong was a son of a neighbor who was asked to drop by the house to check
on Candace and the baby there here's the problem though that's as far as an explanation as we get from
anybody okay okay so you clear still doesn't explain who found the body who found the body you're exactly right or
where the baby was when the body was found it doesn't explain any of that and and only one of those stories can be
true it's not it's not a meshing of the two stories it doesn't work it doesn't work for this for this situation no not
at all I would love for somebody to clear this up because the problem we have is like I said
both stories don't work here one of us one is right and one is wrong and for you to prove to me which one is correct
Dolores I would like to know the name of this guy that you asked to drop by the house to check on Candace and the baby
maybe he can confirm that this is what actually took place and back up your story that you were in fact the person
that found the baby and Candace yeah or or police could confirm this as well and
that's what I'm getting at but both sides should be should come out here and tell us what the heck is going on
because there's something very strange and fishy going on and it to me it almost looks
like I almost questioned both sides at this point yeah it seems like some weird actions on both sides but what is
dolores's thoughts on what happened to her daughter okay so while we're on the topic of the autopsy this is perfect
timing she states that there are at least two gunmen uh it seems to me like that's the one thing that they can agree
on the sheriff's department Dolores or Gun Man Gun Woman yep she says that um she believes that her daughter was shot
simultaneously from two directions and was dead before she hit the floor now keep in mind she was shot inside the
family home and this is also where the simultaneously being shot at Theory comes from because there's really no
proof of this yeah now she states that she that Candace had two shotgun wounds one to the back of the head and one to
the left of the back of her head she had eight to ten 22 caliber gun shot wounds
in her left side Dolores said when they were dragging her body down the hall she
thinks that Candace had some death Tremors and that her head would have touched the doorway and left a wavy
blood pattern on the door she believes that a shooter then reloaded the shotgun and shot Candice
again in the chest because according to Dolores there is a gunshot on Candice that is listed as an after death wound
well this is some crazy CSI [ __ ] well and I'd hate to keep harping on this but
we have a situation Captain where either the autopsy is wrong that the things in
the autopsy are wrong or Dolores is wrong yeah we get it there's some conflicting stories now one thing I
should point out in that I would put in dolores's favor here is that back in January of 2007 Dolores filed a formal
complaint with the State Attorney General's office alleging mismanagement of the crime scene complete with copies
of all of the pictures that she took she also included her theory that a law officer could have been involved in her
daughter's death right now now tell me what person their right mind would have been involved in this
and then brought a spotlight a big Spotlight on this case and by the way when I bring
the spotlight underneath that Spotlight I'm going to give you all the evidence right if you're if you're involved you
don't do stuff like that right it seems to me that she's being very transparent she's allowing everybody to see into
what's going on I point that out with with this incident now that nothing Becomes of this of her formal complaint
but she is taking it to one of the highest offices that she can in presenting evidence and presenting a
story which like you said could end up with her being investigated um so she must have felt confident in
her beliefs of what had had occurred and again she encouraged the media to seek out this autopsy so maybe even though
these stories aren't lining up she is maybe she feels she's honest therefore she has nothing to hide and honest man
an honest woman has nothing to hide right right and she's being very forthcoming with everything yeah and you
know I mean this this is just speculation does a little speculation just a little
birdie told me this little story that possibly the person that performed this autopsy was related to Fami Malek that
this is what a bird told me I'm hoping one day Fami quits appearing in every every show that we do I I generally
believe that most these coroners are doing a great job medical examiner is doing a great job and that we're and
that's where the real facts where you get the real facts from um so I if if we you know when we tell
his story the story about Fami Malik and everything he screwed up it makes it look like this could be going on
everywhere and I hate I can't live my life walking around no no no no no no what I'm saying here is you know this
autopsy which she is pointing to she's saying take a look at this there might be one or two inconsistent things in it
but the overall picture is there and I think maybe that's what she's saying is well yeah they didn't get that right but
who cares you know because does it really matter if she found the body or he found the body like the evidence
within the body and that's what the autopsy is that's probably the most important evidence
here right I mean I at the end of the day it doesn't matter but it it's something that should be clear no no it
should be clear but what I'm stating is that you know even with that unclearness
she's still saying hey you need to take a look at this because there's enough evidence here to to to go with her
Theory or to go into the fact that there should be more of an investigation and this was a situation and we see this
time and time again where law enforcement they come to a conclusion and then they got their guy just on a
different thing and he's in this hospital so he's away and he's you know he's not going to harm anybody
right so we got our guy and now we stopped working on it now there is an interview where you know Dolores she
isn't always just saying that the Sheriff's Office killed Candace uh or the The Dodd killed Candace and
covered it up right you know she's not she's not stuck to that 100 all of the time and you know there is one at least
one occasion where she did state that perhaps it was a couple of girls who were jealous of Candace and not an
officer who had killed her daughter because of the after death Tremor remember the after death shot that we
spoke of right where she believes that there was a death trimmer and then the killer reloaded the gun and shot her
then her statement is that she believes a trained officer would know about death
Tremors and would not have panicked thinking that Candace was still alive and then shot her again yeah but most uh
police officers haven't shot a person before that's true but she does bring up an interesting topic for me and this is
when I review what the autopsy says according to the newspaper now to be clear the autopsy Accord according to
the newspaper makes it sound like Candace was shot in the front and in the back simultaneously right from opposite
directions simultaneously I have a hard time believing that trained officers who are trained in in
strategically moving through a home clearing out rooms moving through buildings clearing out rooms
they're also trained not to shoot at one another okay if if ever they're shooting
downwards if this victim is between you and I and we're both firing at her we run a risk of getting caught in some
kind of Crossfire action you know that me shooting you on accident right but that being shot at the same time is pure
speculation that is speculation and in fact actually Dolores believes that she was fact in fact shot on the side not
from the not from two opposite directions well I don't know how much I buy this whole jealous girl Theory you
know I I don't think that lines up to me I think if Candace said something that hit a nerve with law enforcement is it
possible because if there was some truth to what she was saying and are they trying to cover up some other misdoing
we've seen that in the past there's so much more to get into and the biggest maybe Twist of the whole story
right after this beer break [Music] all right we're back cheers me mateys all right captain we're gonna shift
gears here a little bit I hope you are a fan of Storage Wars because we are about
to get into some storage locker conversation this taking place in Canon City uh the Fremont County Sheriff Jim
Beaker said that he has placed Sheriff's Lieutenant Robert Dodd on administrative
leave after it was reported by The Pueblo Chieftain that evidence in a gruesome decades-old murder case was
found in a storage unit formerly rented by Dodd question leave you say is he on paid leave well
they have to investigate this and see if there was wrongdoing by uh Lieutenant Dodd a local citizen this is Rick
ratsluff um he recently bought the contents of a storage unit in an auction that had been
rented by Dodd but Dodd lost control of the unit's contents because he failed to
pay the rental fees yeah when this citizen looked inside he found some of detectives Dodd's old uniforms with his
name badge on it he also found sirens and lights off of police cars and several items in envelopes marked
evidence and they're not really supposed to take those lights and do whatever you
want with them that's property of the city now ratsliff believed uh I'm sorry radzliff met the sheriff and another
officer at the storage unit these two officers took the evidence as directed by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation
now the way this went down is he contacted the sheriff's department and he said look I found these things in
this storage unit they had a bit of a meeting at the storage unit and they agreed that the sheriff's Department
could take these items with them for investigation we could just play his clip if you want to no it's a terrible
clip so we have Sheriff Beaker confirmed in his statement that on December 30th this is in 2016 that he and Commander
Jeff Worley they did briefly look at all of the evidence in the storage locker and immediately contacted CBI regarding
the matter with their consultation they cataloged photographed collected and secured the items moving them into the
Fremont County evidence storage now on January 3rd of this year the CBI sent two agents to meet with the sheriff and
they took all of the evidence because this is obviously an active investigation now the CBI confirmed that
it is investigating how this evidence came to be in a storage unit now let's talk about some of these
things here um there was a blanket that was recovered in the storage unit now Dolores says that this blanket is
familiar to her she says that this is the blanket that Candace's body was in um that was the blanket that that she
and her son Jonathan had bagged and eventually gave to the Sheriff's Office okay they also found bloody socks there
um in the storage unit Dolores believes that these socks were on Candace's feet when she pulled her from underneath the
bed they would have been taken off with her clothes with Candace's clothes when she was taken to the autopsy
a hatchet was also recovered in the storage lock yeah the very weird looking Hatchet yes and I I described this as
like a hatchet that you would throw yeah um maybe in a circus act or something like that wow it kind of looks like
something from He-Man I'm glad you said that because I was thinking like Snake Eyes from GI Joe
something that he would throw anyway sorry we dorked it up there for a minute super dark
um a hatchet was recovered in the storage unit and Dolores says that this is familiar to her as well because it
was one that she had owned um and she stated that it probably lying outside by a wood pile and it is a
weapon that was used this is her opinion used to kill the family dog um the dog's name was Jackson it was a
female dog um uh she had disappeared three days before Candace's murder there was also a
rope that was found this may have been the one that was used to tie Jackson to the tree so the dog was taken to a back
hill tied to a tree and ax if someone had now this is Dolores words if someone had tried to break in the dog would have
went ballistic now uh CBI officials confirmed that they are investigating the recovery of the
evidence in the storage facility now but isn't that something that maybe only the
family would know about the dog going ballistic possibly yes or I mean sometimes people that break into homes
or plan to commit crimes just assume that they don't want to deal with a dog well and they also found like boxes of
paperwork or something like that yeah from the sheriff's office so these are all very bad things for lieutenant Dodd
yeah he owns the storage unit he defaults on the payments and then when it's purchased by somebody else they
discover what could be evidence in a murder case an active murder investigation well and I wonder if you
know the term applies here I mean if you can't afford to do the time or afford to pay the time on your
storage locker then you can't afford to do the crime or something like that there's no saying like that at all
um the the thing here is Captain we got a bad situation because Dodd is like you
said placed on administrative leave um I believe it to be paid uh if you want to feel worse about the situation I
do believe that he was paid for this administrative leave he um he would eventually be charged
with mishandling evidence um with uh you know not doing his job properly for a lack of a better term
um he's not there's been no conviction in this situation yet he has since retired from the Sheriff's Office and he
yes he did he's moved out of state run and hide my friend he's running he's run out I was going to say moved out of
state but he ran out of state um anyway this this problem doesn't really end here because then we're going to fast
forward to about six months later there was additional evidence that was allegedly connected to former Fremont
County Sheriff's Office detective Robert Dodd which was found and recovered from
The Phantom landfill in Penrose now according to the Pueblo Chieftain Cannon City resident Rick ratsluff who also
discovered evidence from a 2006 homicide in December he received a tip from The Phantom landfill worker this is Robert
Orton who said that more apparent evidence had been found from a dumpster that was collected from Dodd's former
residence Dodd had already been charged by this time with abuse of public records in two counts of second-degree
official misconduct after the evidence was found by ratzliff caused an investigation by the CBI now since this
investigation as we mentioned dot had resigned uh he now lives in Texas he's scheduled to appear in court at this
time that this stuff is found now what is this stuff that is found well they collected a dumpster okay from his
former residents it was full of stuff now like maybe one of those rented dumpsters before you're going to move
out yeah that's what it sounds like to me and it I guess they have to check for HazMat type material before they can
dump the stuff well when they were checking the dumpster they found what is listed as quote a fat envelope that
looked like criminal investigation paperwork a videotape labeled as it as containing a sexual assault
investigation interview and a tackle box marked fcso crime scene unit forensic lights and just to remind everybody this
is the same individual that was questioning the family and Candace called him out when he said that he's
going to take her to jail I mean this guy shows multiple levels of incompetency at the law enforcement
position um I do want to note that the paperwork that was found in the landfill the
official reports and paperwork that were were found they they dated from 2003 to
2006. so who knows if that included this murder investigation that would have started in August of 2006. all right so
what is the big problem with all this evidence coming out um well of course as you pointed out not
only did Dodd potentially have the altercation with Candace but he was also one of the lead investigators in her
murder case right um and this presents all kinds of problems you know like Frank Costanza says I got
a lot of problems with you people and now you're going to hear about them okay so we have this guy we have this guy
that's not fit to be an officer at all in my opinion he's dragging down the rest of the good people that do that job
because like you said he's incompetent and I hate to judge a book by its cover but that's all I have I'm a guy that
lives a thousand miles away and can only read these things in the newspaper but his ex his the the things he has done
um this guy is he's just a sloppy lazy mess is what I think this guy is um is HE capable of murdering somebody I
don't know is HE capable of covering it up I don't think so I don't think so I don't think this guy can
I don't think he's I know right but that doesn't mean that he didn't try and he's
failing miserably now I do want to point out you know we said that Dodd has been
charged with this and this has not been resolved yet um if you want to have something to be
angry about today I'll give you something to be angry about today I'm already pissed off man I have heard some
reports that they were trying to work out a plea bargain with Dodd I have a bazillion problems with that
and everybody else should including the sheriff who's in charge in Fremont County and including the district
attorney that's in charge here's why because if you can't trust your police if you can't trust your Sheriff who can
you trust right who who do you got on your side that's what they are there for that is what they are supposed to be
doing and like I said this guy is a sloppy lazy mess and he's dragging down the rest of the good women and men that
are performing this tough very tough job yeah every day and night keeping us safe
and giving them bad light and here's the thing if you if I if I'm this dude's boss all right if I'm captain chief
sheriff dog in town you're a colonel I'm the captain and I got this little sloppy
lazy mess Dodd he's got evidence in a storage unit he's throwing away important items uh in the
landfill in a dumpster what else who knows where else he threw stuff away at right you know who you know who he's
making look bad he's making me look bad the head dog in charge he's bringing down the whole Sheriff's Department if I
were this Sheriff Beaker guy I'd be on the phone with the district attorney and I would say no you throw the book at
this guy throw the we need to make an example out of him for the public but more importantly for the other officers
that are coming up through the ranks this is stuff that evil even if he wasn't trying to cover up a murder even
if he wasn't hiding anything this is just a sloppy lazy mess that Dodd sat in for years and this is not how you can
run any type of investigation this is not how you can run any type of sheriff's department and hope to get
things done well it's obstruction of justice which is breaking the law so if you bring break the law you should go to
jail and that's what this scumbag deserves now go to jail is this stuff evidence in the murder of Candace I
don't know we'll get into that in a minute but regardless let's say that it is let's say that these items were
somehow involved or connected to the murder of Candace hilts we have a big freaking problem here now Captain
because guess what problem if if I find this evidence and I find DNA evidence on
this stuff that ties somebody to the crime or points me in a direction that would lead me to solve the crime guess
what this stuff ain't going to work in the court of law because you can't any good defense attorney is going to tell
the jury this stuff sat in a locker in a storage unit it was not in a controlled
environment it was being housed by this cop that we don't know if he's a bad dude or not for years and years and
years this is contaminated evidence you now can't use this to convict anybody we
have a case that looks to me to be in the get-go in the early get-go this case should have been solvable the problem is
it's unraveled and it's fell apart throughout the years and it's only gotten worse and I fear I fear people
and I know we've questioned Dolores and and what's going on there in that situation
here's the thing Candace is the victim here she deserves Justice Dolores our family family deserves justice as well
yeah and I fear that that nobody's going to get this because of moves that have been made by the sheriff's that's just
if he's a sloppy mess and he's not involved but he if he's somehow involved they can still tie this in uh does that
to have evidence against him and I'll be really interested to see what the CBI comes out and says you know moving
forward yeah I'm really looking forward to that information as well here's the thing here's my other thoughts on this I
know I know I got real worked up there because I do feel like Dodd regardless has done some very bad things some wrong
things sloppy mess now let's say let's say that this stuff is not evidence in the actual Candace case right now that
might be confusing for somebody listening right now what do you mean by that and well nobody has come out and
stated 100 percent that this is stuff that was actually taken from the hilt's home that this was in fact the hatchet
that was used to kill the dog okay here's where I call into question the hatchet right you you and I described it
um Dolores described it as a hatchet that she believed on that she owned and that would have been near a wood pile
I'm assuming it's near the wood pile because it was used for chopping up wood and sticks and things like that
this does not look to me like the hatchet I would pick out to chop up wood right but you don't look like somebody
that could chop wood I can chop wood sure but not with that hatchet not with that hatchet my friend this Hatchet to
me this Hatchet to me looks like either either something that Dolores would not have owned I don't know why she would
say that that's one that I owned and it was used for chopping wood I would tend to lead lean more to the side that this
could be a hatchet that was stolen from somebody's home by James um this looks to be more of a decorative
um Hatchet rather than something you would use as a tool um so there's there's where I question
that um you know that's where the big uproar is because everybody's saying that we
have hidden evidence in a murder case I've not had anybody with any background come out and tell me that this stuff is
actually involved in that murder case what we do have is a law enforcement officer that we know for a fact withheld
evidence we just don't know what the evidence is for in which cases 4. so there are four major theories swirling
around this whole unsolved case here and I know that it's pretty obvious that we
obviously that we danced all over two of them but let's go through them very quickly here and I'm just you know I'm
not trying to brag or anything but we we look like Justin Timberlake and James Brown that's that's right anyway
um so the first Theory that's out there is that the father of this baby came to the house and killed Candace so this
would be Paige's father now there are several problems with this Theory one we don't know we don't have on record who
the name what the name is of the father okay uh the theory would be something like this that he he was either angry
with Candace or he didn't want to be a father didn't want to have a baby in his life so he kills Candace
this doesn't ring true to me real well it doesn't sit well with me because I don't see this person I don't can't
find any evidence first of all this person being involved in this baby's life for 11 months I don't know if if I
had fathered a child didn't want to and wasn't told that I'm the father didn't have any knowledge of this nobody
seeking money from me or anything of that nature and this baby's fine you know living for 11 months elsewhere in
the care of its mother I don't know that I would have any why would I have any ill feelings
towards that situation uh yeah I get your point there I think the major thing here for me on this Theory and why I
don't buy it is I feel like Candace's uh family would be talking more about this
Theory right that's a very good point I think if if he were to be a suspect we would have heard this person's name from
the hilts family themselves so moving on to Theory number two that Candace was killed by strangers that somebody busted
into the house and killed Candace and then left seemingly with no motive at all um really I guess the only thing you
could come up with here is that it would be some type of Thrill Kill um but to me this seems
seems targeted in a way where with most of these thrill killings from my experience they seem to be more crimes
of opportunity where they stumble upon their eventual victim this to me looks like someone targeted the house for some
reason came in and killed her I mean somebody obviously showed up with several different Firearms showed up
with something used to break into the house itself and here's the other problem I have
I firmly believe that the death of this dog is linked to the death of Candace Candace right which would be days prior
right and it seems to me like that would be that's not random at all like somebody would have had a stake out the
house watch the house capture the dog somehow and then tie it to the tree and then kill Candace later I to me that
seems it it almost seems lazier than the work that uh that that Lieutenant Dodd was doing yeah the only thing about this
theory for me would be yeah it could have been the you know dog has something to do with it like we said it was Prior
but it could be could have been a situation where there's a group of individuals that thought for some reason
on this property was an opportunity and you know they staked out the they staked
out the house or whatever um but again there's really no evidence towards that then obviously one of the theories also
would be that her older brother James killed Candace now I know that I've called into a question a lot of things
going on with James and and he does look like a likely suspect or somebody that I
would consider to be a person of interest um like I said with that hatchet that was found if
if that was the one that was used that looks to me like something that would have been stolen from another home I
can't speak uh enough to the point of what was his state of mind I don't think any of us could could fathom what he was
going through and how he was going to handle the situation that he found himself in
but the problem I have here with that is I feel like the sheriffs they circled in
on this guy very quickly and I almost feel like if there was evidence to put this guy away they would have done so
and but that's not what happened they that's not what happened at all they put evidence in the storage locker now we
have Dolores who will Who has continued to blame uh her son's situation and the situation of the investigation on the
sheriff's department and I think some of that is definitely rightfully so now with her son her son James hiltz he
remains at the state hospital to this day he does have some off-campus privileges
um but here's the thing it sounds to me I've had Dolores I've I've read two stories from Dolores regarding her son
James and where he is now one stating that you know he should have been released by now and the police keep the
sheriff's department keeps returning to the hospital every time he comes up for a hearing stating that he is a suspect
and a murder investigation but she has also said that James has chosen to stay at the state hospital so
I I guess both could be true in this situation um but it seems strange to hear both versions from the same person yeah
my my problem with the fact that James would be the the murderer is the fact that you know this murder to me the
evidence points that there was this was done by multiple people so it would have to be James and
somebody else who's that other person right and there's no evidence of this other person the other thing too is we
have no evidence of this individual being violent um now that being said I think with his
mental state is it possible that he actually killed the dog it had nothing to do with his sister's murder that's
very possible as well because because of the weapon that the dog was murdered with and so that's a little odd but I
think the other thing too here though and when I said oh well maybe the family helped cover it up we have an individual
that is where he needs to be for his health and his mental health and knowing that and then knowing that we we might
need to keep him there if if the family felt that they needed to keep him there I don't think they would cover that up
right right I don't think that they would cover that up at all the then the other obvious one would be was somebody
from the sheriff's office involved in the murder or killed Candace and has covered it up
well well so many signs point to yes yes they do um one thing I struggled with here is in
the beginning was I really thought that given what I know about Sheriff's departments and about police activity
I really felt like that if the Police or Sheriffs have done this that I didn't get the feeling that they
would capture the dog in advance and kill it out in the woods you know we all know police activity
with their you know they are more than capable of busting down a door shooting an animal that charges the door
and then going in and taking care of business so I didn't see a reason for that act to take place but then the more
I get to thinking about it I question one thing we had that story from basically an unknown source stating that
Candace at some point had gone to the Sheriff's Office to file some kind of formal complaint
here's what I question is there a chance that maybe whatever was done to that dog
that poor dog that that was done as some kind of threat and what I would be curious to
know and we will we will never know this whatever was done to that dog did that happen and was that a threat that was
not received by the family because they were unaware that the dog was missing or
just thought the dog took off on some adventure and then Candace goes and files this report
or attempts to file a report with the Sheriff's Office yeah if if we knew that little piece right there I would think
that all points show and sign in the 0.2 someone in the Sheriff's Office uh probably died because why did he have
any of this stuff to begin with why was he taking these items home why was he placing them in a storage locker that
seemed like you're hiding them tucked away and then yet he's careless enough to default on the payments where
somebody can find this stuff same with the things that were collected from his home that ended up in the
landfill as well those are those most of those items that we talked about that ended up in that landfill those were
regarding other cases I I just don't understand why this guy was taking anything home do I think he was a shady
dude I I look look taking the stuff home and hiding it yes Shady dude I think he's more shady than
that I think he was doing some things that he shouldn't have been doing I think he was covering some of his own
tracks I don't know that I can say 100 that he's capable of murdering somebody and covering it up
the big question for me is now can I believe let's say I believe that he he is capable of that
do I believe that people within the sheriff's office would have helped him that for me is where I can't make the
leap I can make the leap to believe that Dodd did this it doesn't mean that he doesn't know some other Shady
individuals right that's true but I I I'm having the trouble making the leap that more people in the Sheriff's Office
were involved in this than just potentially dot well we have multiple evidence you know like we said before
that you know him taking evidence home storage in locker that's shady stuff but whatever Candace said to him I think hit
a nerve and I think that if you investigate that Avenue you're going to find more answers I just lean towards
that there's a lot of shady stuff going on with this uh individual and like you said I think the dog was possibly a
warning as well and I I apologize if at any time we seemed frustrated during these episodes but this was a very
frustrating I'm sorry very frustrating case to cover because there there's so many things that are wrong with this
case there's so many things that that you question this might be the messiest case that we've covered
um yeah and look I'm not one to jump down law enforcement throats I I love conspiracies right Captain conspiracy
all day long but I normally don't fall to the line of all this is possibly law enforcement
but every so often it's clear you know it's more of a clear picture and I think you saw that you know with um like boys
on the tracks in case for example and I think here again there's I there's not enough to point a finger and saying it's
this guy I know it he did it but I think there's enough nuggets that if if investigated correctly uh by the CBI
and by current law enforcement I think that this uh family could get Justice and the thing here is the the hilts
family God bless them they deserve as just as good luck to them Candace deserves
Justice I think I don't know that we're going to get a conviction in this case it's it seems a little too sloppy to me
um but I think they could but I think it's going to take that Community rallying around the fact that they
deserve answers and they deserve to have uh people that they pay to Serve and Protect Serve and Protect and not you
know get in the way of Justice or take the law into their own hands and it's going to take the local community
constantly uh just you know badgering them and being a thorn in their side and then they'll do something about it but
until then they won't do anything about it but what would be a huge step in the right direction for the hilts family and
for everyone in that community in the Fremont County area they need to prosecute Dodd on all of
these charges to the fullest yeah he needs to go to jail for this right and to to to the sheriff in charge out there
into the district attorney out there you know I apologize if you didn't do any missed doings here this is your mess now
this is this is your mess to clean up and you've got to straighten out this situation that's on it's on you it's on
your shoulders this is your community and I hope that they do that and I hope we get some results regarding dot in
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Candace Hiltz, 17, was murdered on August 15, 2006. She was described at the time as a teen mother who had an 11-month-old daughter. Candace's family, said Candace had an altercation of some sort with an officer at the sheriff's office about a week before she was killed. Just days before her death the family's dog went missing. James Hiltz, Candace's older brother, was a person of interest in the murder but never was charged. Multiple family members who have spoken out all say James Hiltz was not the murderer and that he wouldn't have hurt his younger sister. Many suspect someone in law enforcement killed Candace. Candace's family continues to fight for justice.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the murder of Candace Hiltz and the questionable investigation by law enforcement, highlighting evidence mishandling and family dynamics.

Key points

Candace Hiltz's Tragic Murder. Candace Hiltz, a teen mother, was murdered at 17, leaving behind an 11-month-old daughter.
Autopsy Revelations. The autopsy revealed shocking details about Candace's murder, including multiple gunshot wounds.
Strange Circumstances. Conflicting accounts about who found Candace's body raise questions about the investigation.
Dodd's Administrative Leave. Sheriff Beaker places Lieutenant Dodd on administrative leave amid the investigation of found evidence.
Evidence Found in Storage Unit. A local citizen discovers evidence linked to a decades-old murder case in a storage unit.
Controversial Plea Bargain. Reports suggest a plea bargain may be in the works for Dodd, raising public outrage.

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The autopsy revealed she was shot seven times.

Details from the autopsy report.

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