Bodies in the Basement /// Part 2 /// 467 | Forensic Files

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[Music] [Music] foreign where we left off yesterday Captain we are going through the timeline of David
Edward moust one that I would categorize as a unique serial killer as said in 2003 they discovered the bodies of three
teenage boys in his basement and then the community discovers that this man that they are arresting and charging
with a triple homicide he's already been convicted twice of murder so why was he
living in their neighborhood this leads us up to 1967 when mouse was just 13 years old
he's now been institutionalized placed there by his mother for about four years at this
point he was sent from the psychiatric hospital to the Alex Children's Home which had a reputation for sexual abuse
this is according to the Munster Indiana Times this part captain gets a little fuzzy because moust was then sent back
to the mental hospital in 1970. the reasons for this not clear but I'm sure that if there were if he was living in a
situation that had a reputation for sexual abuse even though he did not like living at the psychiatric hospital he
probably was glad to be sent back to this Hospital after leaving the hospital David moust
worked construction then he enrolled in the Army this was when he was 17 years old he went through basic training and
was sent to Frankfurt Germany in 1972 to serve as an army cook in Germany for some reason David moust
was spending time in the company of a 13 year old American boy named Jimmy mclister whose parents were stationed in
Germany the two met at a bowling alley according to court documents Jimmy called moust a queer and told others
that he saw maust masturbate well that's the fastest way to become friends as a result others started making fun of
David moust David moust engineered an outing with this kid with Jimmy riding a pair of stolen mopeds in a German forest
so so he became friends with the guy that was running around telling everybody he was caught jerking off he
was already friends with him and says that you know he caught moused masturbating tells everybody this
now everybody's making fun of David Mouse okay I'm just trying to get this right we have this kid that's abandoned
by his family put into a psychiatric home then goes to this other facility for basically orphans he's molested
there goes back to the site may have been he it's a place that's rep has a reputation for sexual abuse so from
there he is sent back to the psychiatric ward he's there for a while gets out yeah because he's he's 17 he's almost an
adult by this point so then he goes to the Army and now he befriends this younger kid they send yeah he goes to
basic training after basic training then they give you a job in the Army and he's
sent to Germany to work as an army cook this in 1972 And while he's there for some reason who does he become friends
with he becomes friend with friends with the child not with other adults he starts hanging out with this 13 year old
American Boy Who the 13 year old American boy is there because his parents are in the Army as well and
stationed there well one has a connection because they're both American but two you'd have to say or have to
think that his social skills his social maturity was that probably of a younger kid than a 17
year old well and this is something that we've seen with adults as well that you
sometimes when people are institutionalized that they have a different maturity because they did not
mature that much during the time that they were institutionalized right that's why we have criminal profilers that say
the most difficult thing to determine in your profile is the age of the offender if you don't
have any statements from eyewitnesses because you don't know the maturity level of someone that's been potentially
locked up for 15 20 years they don't mature the same way that you and I would out here living amongst other people in
society right so Captain it looks to me like whatever went down between Mouse and this 13 year old boy right the David
moust wanted to either shut the kid up or he wanted revenge against the kid because now everybody's picking on him
and making fun of him yeah Conan flicky so it seems like he engineered this plot
to get the kid to come out and hang out with them the two were out riding on a pair of stolen mopeds out in the forest
and while out in the forest moused hit Jimmy over the head he then tied the boy to a tree and beat him to death with a
board that had Nails sticking out of him Jesus David moust hid the body in some of the brush the boy's body was not
found until about a month later I mean look you catch somebody masturbating just never never tell anybody
never you could be beaten to death with a board with nails this the weird thing here Captain is that mouse was only
convicted of manslaughter and he was he was convicted of manslaughter and larceny this for stealing the mopeds but
was not charged with murder because there were no witnesses that could place Jimmy
and David Mouse together on the same day that Jimmy died okay so just because they can't place them together then how
the heck is he responsible in any way shape or form are they saying well because he still stole the moped and the
13 year old was on the moped that that's how he died well this is a difficult situation what I think happened here is
that they cannot put the Killer and victim together they have nobody that can testify at court and say these two
were together on that day or right Mouse tricked this kid out into the forest with him and then later we found his
body a month later what I think happened here is that we have a plea bargain I think that they had enough suspicion
surrounding David moust especially if there's there's there's this rumor going around that the kid
caught him masturbating and told everybody about it yeah caught him this dude this dude is going to be your
number one suspect when the kid goes missing and when you find his body a month later
You're Gonna Keep confronting him and confronting him and say hey we know this and we know that about you David moust
what we know from the the 2003 murders he eventually confessed to all three of them right so that that is who he is
that's his makeup so very likely what happened here is he says okay you're you're suspicious of me yeah I was with
him what what his story is is that we were out riding together on these mopeds in the forest and little
Jimmy smacked into a tree like Sonny Bono and died and I just I just hit his body and
then left I got scared and left so they they can kind of piece together what they believe happened but they don't
have any way of proving that in court and in fact this was a a court-martialed situation and he was sentenced to
some sources say five years in some sources say four years at Fort Leavenworth for this situation and again
because he's enrolled into the the military I wonder if that had something to do with him being charged with a
lesser crime I I again I'm guessing it's what he was agreeing to be to be convicted of right he probably stuck to
his story that the kid died on it in some kind of accident on these stolen mopeds out in the forest what's weird
here and I know I keep saying that but David Mouse to me seems to be a very unique serial killer and will get into
why I believe leave that here in a bit but he gets this very light sentence right captain of depending on which
source four or five years he is getting paroled after serving just three years during the parole portion he's telling
authorities do not parole me do not let me out I don't want to be let out of prison
keep me here this was either ignored or denied and he was released in 1977. yeah
but you see this occasionally or at least through like the journals or the thoughts or interviews of many serial
killers where they go I killed this guy then I told myself never again and so I think this is a situation where he's
going just keep me locked up because I'm going to do this again right I think he
has a realization of who he is of what he's capable of and maybe he's even afraid of that himself and does not like
who he is does not want to be evil but he believes himself to be it almost it's like I can't control myself keep me here
please I don't want to hurt anybody else one after he's released he's gonna he's
gonna get back to America he's going to be living in Chicago and he's going to be committing more crimes there and
these are violent crimes and these are situations where it's just it's just bizarre because this
next event went so far as that he was actually tried and went to trial for this in 1980 for armed violence
attempted murder and aggravated battery this was from a stabbing that took place
in 1979 the victim's name Mark Earnhardt who was a co-worker with David moust at
the FJ Lytle machine company in Chicago Mouse have been working with this company for 18 months he was making
about a thousand bucks a month as a machinist he and Mark were hanging out one night when Mouse suddenly stabbed
Who David Mouse refers to as his friend he stabs his friend in the abdomen with an eight-inch knife well he just beat
his one friend to death with a board with nail sticking out a few years earlier so he he likes to be friends with these
people and then it's almost like this guy hates himself so much that if you're friends with him
he wants you dead yeah and thankfully Mark lived through the situation David Mouse lied on the witness stand
apparently saying that this whole incident was an accident it sounds to me like there just was not
enough evidence to convict maust of anything so he was found to be not guilty in this situation but what we're
pointing out here Captain is that David Mouse one got off light for a murder in Germany and then got away with it
entirely for an attempted murder here in Chicago just a couple years later I wonder if this friend caught him jerking
off well I don't know but a couple of months later Mouse stabbed someone else this time the
guy died here's what happened this is per the Chicago Tribune in August of 1981 David Mouse started to believe that
the cause of his violent Behavior was from a homosexual incident or homosexual activity that he
had engaged with with a a boy just a few years earlier so he's all mad and worked up about this
situation he decides he's going to go out and look for this teenager and when he finds him he's going to kill him
maybe he was afraid that the the boy would tell people about it at the time mouse was living in Wood ale a western
suburb of Chicago so he drove to his former neighborhood of Greenview where he knew that the
teenager was living at the time you know he's asking around about this kid and he
learned that the kid was in jail so his Target the person he's all enraged at that he wants to find and kill he's not
going to be able to do because this kid's locked up in jail so he decides on the spot you know what
I'll just go after someone else and really anyone else he spots Donald Jones age 15. this is almost like a surrogate
victim for Mouse yeah he somehow gets this 15 year old into his vehicle he drove out to a
remote location this was a gravel Quarry where he stabbed the teenager in the stomach and then threw him in a
water-filled gravel pit the kid of course begging for his life years later moust would would write
about this attack and this is saying things like he could even years later he could still hear Donald Jones the 15
year old saying I'm only 15. please do not kill me please don't hurt me the the 15 year old drowned in that water filled
Gravel Pit it's amazing that David was able to read or write with his horrible upbringing and his lack of Education
yeah the body of this kid would not be found until almost two months later I have no idea Captain to be perfectly
honest with everyone it's completely unclear to me how David moust was caught for this and and but he
was eventually charged with the murder of Donald Jones this is a stranger on Stranger attack right I don't know what
led to him but what we do know is that before David Mouse could be prosecuted he decides boom I'm out of here he took
off for Texas so in December of 1981 the same year while mouse was in the Lone Star State the following incident took
place a 14 year old boy named Stephen Anderson was walking home from a 7-Eleven that's for those not familiar
that's an old gas station in Galveston Texas he's walking home with his buddy Richard sweet
Mouse pulled up in a two-tone Chevy Blazer and asked if they wanted to earn some money doing some work for him
they both say yes but Mouse says I only need one of you so Richard sweet he says you know what I
had a bad feeling about the situation so I just said you know what I'm not interested the other boy Stephen
Anderson climbed into the Blazer and told David mouse that he needed to call his mother to let her know where he was
so Mouse drove the kid to a motel a few blocks away as Stephen walked into the motel room
before he could use the phone moust punched him in the back of the head right then he put him on the bed and kept
punching Stephen threatening that if he screamed or yelled he would kill him Mouse took off
the boy's pants and Stephen says he does not recall anything after that up to this point where moust drops the
kid off at a park just a few hours later right he tries to give the kids some money
saying you know don't tell anybody what happened here's some money don't talk about this
according to the police report the kid was in the hospital for this attack for about a week he had several injuries
severe injuries to his arms face head shoulders and chest and a stab wound to the abdomen
there were marks on this kid's wrist that indicated that he was tied up and bound at some point during this attack
he later told the newspaper quote my mom said that they did test on me at the hospital and I wasn't raped but I think
he did rape me and my mom was just protecting me at the time or maybe it's something that he's blocked out of his
memory mouse was charged with causing bodily injury to a child he pled guilty and was sentenced to five years the
Texas authorities were aware of his outstanding warrant for the Jones murder in Illinois
and so while he was in prison in Galveston Cook County Illinois officials arrived down there to talk with him
about the Donald Jones murder case there again we see the repeated actions of this guy
he confesses to police that he killed Donald Jones however he refused to sign any type of written statement I mean
this guy is an absolute monster monster and what also is apparent here I think is
he's a loose cannon it seems like a lot of these attacks there's definitely some
sexual aspects to a lot of this Behavior but also a lot of this seems Revenge filled in in in hate-filled where it
doesn't take much to make him fly off the rails and and attack someone to the point where he's stabbing people yeah
and I know I was making the joke that he looks like Nick Nolte mixed with the Ultimate Warrior it's almost you know
the the whole character of The Ultimate Warrior was come in yeah and be explosive and and then
you're done right and it's but it seems like that's kind of characteristic of of
how David acts so Captain he's locked up for this attack this what you could almost determine to be attempted murder
but only charged with causing bodily harm to a juvenile locked up in Texas Illinois officials come down and he
verbally confesses to killing Donald Jones will not sign a written statement what's discussed behind the scenes is
that all of the parties involved determined that we need to extradite David mouse back to Chicago so that he
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of this stuff with David moust is now happening in 1983 Captain he's extradited from Texas back up to
Illinois he's 28 years old at this time this next part gets very confusing because
he's extradited to face murder charges the victim again Donald Jones yeah but what takes place is David moust was
institutionalized and basically sits there for an entire decade while not a whole lot happens
with the murder charge itself this is because they're trying to evaluate David Mouse to see if he is
sane or not so there was a a big discrepancy between the experts who disagreed in their assessments of this
man's sanity some of the according to court records some of the medical experts found him to
be insane and others found him to be quite sane and that he should be tried for this month well
they all found him to be a pile of [ __ ] well did it one of the police officers
write something like on on the cover sheet of this where he says uh he's a bad guy and Gacy type yeah that was from
the extradition paperwork where one of the detectives called him a Gacy type which is very interesting because that
is what we would later see in the 2003 murder it's so much like AC but it's I mean it's like Dean Coral
we've seen this time and time again Jeffrey Dahmer was doing the same thing it's if you want to if you want to
attract teenage boys to hang out with you and you're an adult give them some alcohol give them some
money give them some marijuana and that stuff that they can't get elsewhere and they will hang out with you yeah and
then and then we've also seen that after you give those said teenage boys marijuana or beer that even times where
these guys are they're offering them a rub and tug or they're offering them you know how about you suck me off or I suck
you off or whatever it is right it's almost like some of these T these teenagers will just go well I didn't
know if he was joking or not or I or I thought that was strange but he never touched me yeah Bob Bordello did the
same thing the way that he's a little bit different from Gacy and more like he's on a fat slob more like Dean coral
and more like Jeffrey Dahmer in my opinion is that he moused according to his own words later
was looking for a victim and I know Gacy was looking for a victim but the situation with Gacy was a little
different most of the his victims worked for him or the lore the the ruse was giving them jobs you said jobs where in
this situation it's simply Mouse supplying them with alcohol and drugs Dean Coral very similar situation
although Dean Coral the Candyman had other teenagers bringing these teenagers to his home Jeffrey Dahmer simply picked
on on poor people he picked on poor young victims and would use small amounts of money and a lot of occasions
to get these teenage boys back to his apartment Jeffrey Diamond the sugar daddy David Mouse told detectives
because they asked him they're like well how did you pick your victims and he said I would watch in the
neighborhood and I would see the kids whose parents never seem to be around the kids who were always out hanging out
on the street the ones that were always outside and I knew that I could approach them
and I could offer them things that they probably wanted beer cigarettes marijuana money and such and I could get
them to become my friend and spend some time with me yeah well I think the other
thing though too is uh because he was a I guess who would say abandoned by his family there probably had to be a
loneliness there for David and so find other individuals that are lonely because the Common Thread it seems like
in most these crimes or at least a high percentage of the crimes that he's committing
that is like you said they're friends they became friends they were friends before they became victims so David
mouse was finally held legally accountable for the Donald Jones murder but as we said he pretty much sat there
for a decade while they tried to determine if he was sane or not to charge him with this so he's not charged
until May of 1994 to which Captain I know you know what what takes place here he pled guilty yeah
but like you said that's kind of it's his makeup yeah but I think that has a lot to do
with as far as when they say he's insane or not insane I think the fact that he is confessing to these crimes
proves that he is of sane Mine He's sane enough to say what I've done is insane and I should
not be around other people he pled guilty he was sentenced to 35 years in prison at his sentencing the brother of
the victim stands up and tells the Cook County circuit court judge quote please do not
let him out to hurt any other kid again David moust was out of prison five years
later he said he was sentenced to 35 years yes and he gets out in five okay so this is what's
horrific but he must be he seriously he must be given hand jobs to to every parole officer well no there
was there was some walls that were in place at the time that were just bad laws and other states have been guilty
of this too throughout our history where they have the prison population is overcrowded so they're they're trying to
speed up the the process and yeah what they end up doing is letting these guys out way too soon in this particular
situation what we have is in 1981 the year that Mouse killed Donald Jones in the state of Illinois state law called
for murderers and others to get credit for everyday served it was under this situation Captain they're basically
getting a two for one on the days served keep in mind he's been sitting there this whole time
while they try to determine if he's sane or insane this is roughly about 12 years
so mouse gets credit for all 12 of these years he serves five years in prison so
now we're up to 17 and he's getting a two for one credit so if you do the math according to moust and according to the
sentencing laws at the time he did almost all of the 35-year sentence it's just a it's just a broken
system it's a it's a bad law and just think about what's happening at this time you know we have a the War on Drugs
is happening they're they're locking up individuals for selling crack and for selling marijuana and putting them in
jail for all this time but on the other hand you have a situation here where David Mouse is let out it's absolutely
ridiculous so now David Mouse is getting out of prison again and every victim after this should sue the state well
they could all still be alive it's yeah it's again it's just bad state law at the time and they did go on to change
that and mainly because of this case and and some others as well but he's getting
out after this time served David Mouse did not again he does not want out of prison
oddly enough in 1999 Mouse wrote a five-page letter to the Illinois Department of Corrections asking that he
not be released from prison even though he had done his time moust wanted to be classified as a sexually violent
prisoner eligible to be held indefinitely he wrote quote when I came to prison I would sit up at night
thinking about how I would feel about the possibility of staying in prison for the rest of my life and I came to the
conclusion it's the right thing for my life and being in prison is where I belong because I gave up the right to be
free when I committed the crimes that brought me here in the first place look I think maybe there would be a
difference this guy seems apologetic maybe even a little bit reformed possibly so they're going okay well the decision
to let him out it's not so bad if he would have stated you know what you let me out I'm gonna do it again you let me
out I'm going to befriend somebody and I'm going to murder them and and if you let me do that I'm going to befriend
another one and kill them and befriend another one and kill them and I'm just not going to stop killing people because
that's who I am well the Department of Corrections stated that he did not meet the criteria to be placed on any to be
placed on that list and basically held in their facilities so despite all of this he's released in on parole in 1999
he lived in Oak Park Illinois you know he's not going to be allowed to leave the state while he's still on parole so
he's going to live there until 2001. well at least until 2001 without committing any known crimes right
because years later he said that he attacked an ex-prison mate this man's name is Anthony mazur Mouse said that he
had Anthony visit him with the promise that the two would start a marijuana grow operation together Mao said that he
had the funds to buy a large piece of property and start up this whole operation but of course this was all a
lie Mouse attacked Anthony mazur with a pipe and according to Anthony he says he
yelled at Mouse to stop and eventually he did so Mazer survived Mouse then took Anthony to the hospital even signing the
papers to admit him to the hospital the attack on Anthony mazur required Anthony
to get 48 Staples in 26 stitches and of course we later learned that Mouse says that he he lied about the
marijuana grow farm he made the whole thing up because he wanted a friend he later wrote quote it's true that I
only met Anthony because I lied to him and I told him I had lots of money from selling drugs right I was hoping in time
I could turn that lie into a truth as we became better friends but Anthony wanted
to live in Wisconsin so that Saturday afternoon I tried to get him drunk and then I beat his head in with a pipe end
quote Anthony decided to try to press charges but this was after several months he waited so this was after
several months and police later said that they didn't have sufficient evidence for an arrest
after that much time had passed so another very violent vicious attack that almost left another person
dead and murdered he's not even charged with anything in this situation what's so strange too
it's like in this case maybe a little bit different because his friend wants to move to Wisconsin so I think there's
a part of him that well I'll kill him so he can't leave me he doesn't leave me yeah yeah I don't want him to leave me
but and I think that makes this victim different as the other ones and maybe he befriended these people then then he was
afraid we we don't know if there was an interaction between any of these other victims where oh I said something and I
I didn't think they were going to be friends with me anymore so I killed them too I almost think there's part part of
something in his psyche like I said before something that is telling him you like me you're my friend and that makes
you awful could be and he hates himself and therefore he hates anybody that would accept him or like him right but
what's interesting and what you're getting at here too is that time and time again he is friends with all of
these victims before they are his victim it with the exception of Donald Jones who is basically a surrogate victim for
the person he sought for the teenager he went looking for and could not find right so David Mouse parole ended in
2002 and it was then early the next year in 2003 that he moved to Hammond in Indiana
where we now know that he killed the three teenage boys that were hanging out at his apartment and buried him and
cement in his basement he's one that immediately people when they learn about David Mouse he's not a very well-known
serial killer he is in Northwestern Indiana because that's where they he killed three victims
most people when they learn about David moust they say he's got to have more victims the span of crimes between the
murders it's it's 29 years and three murders at the end of one spectrum and two at the the beginning of
the other and 29 years he's got to have more victims he has more victims he just didn't kill
them is what it appears to me because what we need to keep in mind is out of that 29 years he's basically
locked up for about 21 years of that time period he's not out and free for the entire 29
years because his situation is very unique he's convicted of murder served sometime and he's released later
convicted of another murder served some time and is released again we've seen this in other cases Kenneth
McDuff the broomstick killer who we talked about when we covered the yogurt shop murders
yeah he's another situation where he murdered someone he was convicted of murder and then released he gets out and
he kills again Jack Henry Abbott the author of in the belly of the Beast same thing he murdered someone he's in
prison he writes the book in the belly of the Beast people fall in love with this guy they
read his book and they're like oh he's he's a victim on some level himself and he served a good amount of prison time
let's go ahead and let him out his fans called for him to be let out they let him out and sure enough he
kills somebody else again yeah so this is not something that we haven't seen before but it is a very
uncommon situation where you kill serve time you're released you kill again mouse does this
three different times which is incredibly unique but then you also have the situation of
he is a rare serial killer because of remorse this guy almost shows contrition where he he's remorseful and penitent of
of his crimes and of his murders and he's weird because that word remorse is really
difficult to slap onto David moust you know he has said multiple times my victims did not deserve what they got
right what I did to these people they did not deserve this so he at least at the very least
identifies them as a victim some serial killers blame their actions on the victims themselves
but with David moust I don't know that I would use the word remorse I think that
it's misused in this situation I think that his situation seems to me more of he
recognizes himself as evil he does not approve of his actions and he knows the only way that he's not
going to do these again is if he remains locked up lock me up and throw away the key so I
can't go out there and be evil right but what we see with David is they lock him up and they always release
him yes yes he does and that's even when he even when they go to release him he goes don't don't release me and I
think at some point he had to go this system is not going to protect anybody else
you know I I can't stop whatever I'm doing I've been telling everybody I can't stop
but they keep letting me out So eventually I'll get out eventually we'll do this again
well in in reviewing this case Captain when I saw that first conviction for murder
he pled guilty in the first situation and he says as part of my plea agreement I would like to not be put in the
general prison population and I always thought first that maybe that is because he does not want prison Justice to come
down on him you know we said this time and time again Charles Manson was terrified that somebody was going to
murder him in prison right and he did a lot of things made a lot of maneuvering so that he would be kept in isolation or
in special housing or a special wing of the prison so it'd be less likely that somebody could attack and kill him
I assume that going into this with David moust I now look at this and go well is
there a chance that he didn't want to be put in the PR in the general prison population because he thought he would
kill somebody there yeah because people are lonely in prison they become friends and what does David
do with his friends he murders them or or tries to murder them after David mouse was convicted and
sentenced to three life terms this in 2005 David moust wrote to the detective in charge of the case in Hammond Indiana
the the one that arrested him David detective Johnson who at this point after being convicted David Mouse
considers the detective to be a friend of his he writes to him and he says quote not
now but when the time is right I will do the right thing for the parents and for
the taxpayers who have to be pissed with the thought of having to pay to keep an evil person
like me alive end quote then in January of 2006 moust got word that he was about to be
transferred to the doc facility to begin serving his life sentence he was still in the Lake County Jail at this time
his attorney his defense attorney was Thomas veins who visited him the day before the
transfer he said that he saw no hint that David was going to kill himself yeah sometimes there's no sign but Mouse
did tell him that he was thinking about it and he told his attorney he was thinking about it in some vague terms
where he said someday I will kill myself but at the end of this meeting David moust gave his defense attorney several
of his personal items the next day on January 19th at 3 50 A.M moust hung himself with a braided bed
sheet in his cell the hanging broke his neck and he was found brain dead he's alive but brain dead right so they
transferred him to Saint Anthony Medical Center in Crown Point but the next day I
wonder who got all the trophy as his brother debated turning off the life support
moust died of heart failure you must wonder if like the universe wanted Masters suffer a little bit well his
attorney Thomas vane said quote I think he was determined to die on his own terms and if he couldn't get the death
penalty this was his second choice now David Mouse did leave a seven-page suicide note and here are some excerpts
from that he likes to write my he says my brother was right about one thing I should have been given the death
sentence for all of my evil acts of violence that I committed in life he goes on to say the day after the Hammond
Police came to my home I decided to leave for someplace unknown I wasn't running to keep from being punished
because I always knew I should be destroyed and killed like they sometimes do to a wild animal that escapes from
confinement for I know how to punish myself and I only left that day to punish myself for the shameful evil Life
I Lived and because of the embarrassment I would cause the people who knew me and
allowed me into their homes yeah my greatest fear of suffering was for the pain sorrow and grief the parents would
feel when they learned their loving Sons were gone again insane acts but he knows
they're insane which I believe makes him a sane person we talk about and people question did David Mouse commit more
murders and one thing that I find fascinating is that his defense attorney says he does not believe David Mouse
committed any other murders and this is because David moust wrote a lot when he was in prison toward the end
of his life before he took his life not just in the suicide note that was several pages long but he also kept a
diary where he talked about attacks that law enforcement were not aware of or attacks that didn't lead
that didn't end in Murder but it didn't end in a conviction either and I think that his attorney is look
his attorney is the real deal this attorney Vance because vayne's has seen this from both ends from both sides
of the fence veins used to be a prosecutor he prosecuted other murderers he sent other murders to death sentences
and then later in life he became a defense attorney and defends this serial killer and much like with the people
that defended Gacy your your obligation really to your client at that point when you know this
guy is 100 guilty of murdering people and the evil and evil is not to keep him out of prison it's to keep him from
getting the death penalty and I think that veins is the one that says look there's no doubt in my mind that David
moust wanted to die and we know that for a fact because he did kill himself and Vane says that had he committed any
other murders had David Mouse committed any other murders that would have got him a step closer to the death penalty
he would have told us about him that death penalty was his number one choice on how to die suicide was his second
option another note from the suicide note another piece from the suicide note Captain David Mouse wrote in my life I
committed five horrible murders I killed Jane mclister age 13 Donald Jones age 16
Nicholas James age 19 James ragani age 16 and Michael Dennis age 13. for these five were very special and how they were
so kind caring thoughtful joyful and loving young people who did not deserve to die and I have prayed many days that
I could go back through time and undo the pain sorrow and grief that I have caused their families friends and the
neighbors from their communities for I know these five were very much loved and will forever be dismissed I feel like
David Edward Mouse attorney said it best when he said quote David moust was a one-of-a-kind client with an outsized
drive for self-understanding and atonement he was capable of horrific violence with
an equal capacity for contrition David was genuinely sorry for hurting others right up to the time that he did it
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Brief Summary

David Edward Moust's violent history includes multiple murders and systemic failures that allowed his release, culminating in the deaths of three teenage boys.

Key points

David Moust's Troubling Past. David Moust, a unique serial killer, was convicted of multiple murders and assaults.
The Murder of Donald Jones. David Moust murdered 15-year-old Donald Jones and faced multiple charges.
Confession and Extradition. Moust was extradited back to Illinois to face murder charges after confessing.
The Cycle of Violence. David Mouse's history of befriending victims before killing them reveals a disturbing pattern.
David Mouse's Release Controversy. David Mouse was sentenced to 35 years but released after only 5 years, raising concerns about the justice system.
Suicide and Remorse. David Mouse hung himself in prison, leaving behind a note expressing his belief he deserved death.

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