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polygraph test some people get very upset if you talk about polygraph test some people get upset if you leave them
out we make our own rules in this garage and here we go we're going to talk about
a polygraph test for everybody out there Justin Depetro in one of his interviews
with the main Sentinel Justin said that he did take a polygraph test he said I asked for a polygraph on day one I've
taken one in the results I was never allowed to see them it's something you're going to have to ask law
enforcement about this is not really true he did take the polygraph test however Steve
mlon the spokesman for the main Department of Public Safety said quote he Justin knows how he did because we
told him to say he didn't know is just not true end quote so how did Justin do on the poly mlon said that he would not
say uh that was not going to be public information but Justin would tell us how he did he says I know I went in there
and smoked it I told the truth and that's it but did police actually tell Justin that he passed Justin dodged this
question you know how did you do did they tell you that you passed how did how can you say that you smoked it and
unless they told you that you passed and he dodged this question he said they can
tell me whatever they want again I didn't physically see the results I don't know that that a lay person could
physically see the results and know the answers or know how they performed on the test the Sentinel reporter pressed
him on this issue and asked him if police told him he failed Justin said that's all irrelevant I wanted to see
the results myself they're not letting me see them why don't they let the public see them we don't think we need
to say any more about this polygraph here in the garage because I think at this point we've been clear that in this
investigation as large as it was that the police have determined they're going to keep a lot of stuff
close to their vest they're not going to release anything more than they have to
so this is difficult when you look at this case from a national media standpoint because now you have Justin
who is less forthcoming but at times does come forward and give interviews or answer some questions release
statements and you have Trista who's doing a media blitz she's doing every media bit that she can MH when law
enforcement when they're not telling us their opinions or what the evidence shows them were kind of left to observe
these two individuals behaving a little differently from one another but they're
also allowed to paint their own picture to tell their side of the story and we're left with very little to back up
either person's story but what we do know is there's no evidence of this child leaving the
house you bring in multiple K9 units to try to pick up a scent and they don't get one and we have law enforcement
saying saying and if this is true that they gave a polygraph early on in the investigation is this part of the
evidence that law enforcement then goes hey we don't believe that this child is alive we believe that there was Foul
Play involved and you're exactly right Captain because this is the direction that the investigation is moving toward
and we know that because on December 30th there was more news out of Waterville but it wasn't good news it
was news telling us that the case was officially declared a criminal investigation and would now be
spearheaded by the main State Police Major Crimes unit Chief massie's written release to the public said quote at this
point we believe that Foul Play has occurred in connection with aa's disappearance we base our conclusions on
evidence gathered by investigators during the past 2 weeks this case has evolved from the search for a missing
child to a criminal investigation end quote and sure enough a state police evidence response team was back at the
Depetro home right around the time of this statement being released to the public they're out there taking
measurements of the driveway they're removing windows and doing other things that they simply would not discuss on
the record the home was finally released back to the debito family this on December
31st by this point in our timeline Captain Aya has been missing for 14 days in the New Year dive teams plunged into
sections of the canbec river based on projections of where Aya could be per map analysis but unfortunately found
nothing the investigation continued with several members of the extended Depetro
and Reynolds families taking polygraphs and searches ongoing police would not discuss who took lie detector tests
publicly but Alicia Depetro told the Sentinel newspaper that she took one and quote did fine yeah she she said she
smoked it right well she says she did fine and Justin said he smoked it like that's not the proper way to take the
test sir the proper way is to answer the questions well look I mean not smoke the
test let me just tell you he is uh what we consider uh douche when I sat down for the SATs I didn't fill out that
paper I rolled it up and smoked it smoked it yeah on January 28th there was more not good
news and this time it's going to be a doozy because police confirmed that they had found blood in the dichro home they
would not initially say who blood mhm or how much but stating that blood was found in the basement of the house and
it had been found via the crime scene text use of luminol and I'm sure most of our listeners know exactly what luminol
is well and to be more clear it was found in the basement but it was found where Justin was stay what they consider
to be his bedroom that's right and the official statement was this we find the discovery of blood troubling and it's
also frustrating that we think that three adults in the home that night haven't told us everything that they
know there were three adults in the home and their version of events is not backed up by any forensic evidence that
we have located well they also found Blood on the bottom of his shoes which would have been blood from his daughter
and this is echoing something that you said earlier captain that in their statement says you know the three adults
are basically telling us that they believe that someone slipped into the home in the middle of the night but all
three adults were there and that that someone went into the bedroom where AO was sleeping alone
removed her and vanished into the night and the three adults did not see or hear
anything and police straight up saying this doesn't pass the straight face test as they called it and police said that
they had received several hundred pieces of potential evidence from the Depetro home what all of it was has never been
officially addressed or released to the public we do know that they removed a window this was the window closest to
Aya's bed and later it was said that they determined that the windows to the home could not have been opened from the
outside and that they had not been tampered with mhm the dietro family challenged the assertions that they were
not being forthcoming with all of what they knew and in fact they said that the investigators had not done a very
thorough job in their forensic investigation of the Depetro home Alicia herself says there were things that they
didn't fingerprint in Aya's room that they felt that they should have uh she said that they were referring to a table
that was located directly beneath the bedroom window and some other items of furniture she says that the family
learned that the window to Aya's room was unlocked on the night of her disappearance and it say and goes to say
that we look they just make up their stories they're they're trying to control whatever narrative you have the
police coming out saying these windows if locked would not be able to be open from the
outside the if the police knew that that window was unlocked that night then that's more evidence towards
the idea that there could have been AOSS Intruder right so to me this is just them controlling the narrative exactly
and I don't think that Waterville PD or the main State Police would bother to go out of their
way to tell us that hey these these windows were secure they weren't tampered with if they had reason to
believe otherwise right or to believe that some of the windows were unlocked and so here let me break it down to you
how it works if you have a table underneath a window that you don't believe was ever open What's the Point
there's no point of the table being put into evidence and people can question that as much as they want that statement
or what the forensic detectives did inside the house that time during their investigation and what evidence they
chose to collect or ignore but what people out in listener land that aren't familiar with this case
do not know is that there's evidence that they were finding to suggest that not only did was Aya not taken from that
room that night in the middle of the night that something else probably went down in the house and it didn't go down
in that bedroom yeah there was a lot of blood found yeah and and there's actually I saw something I think it was
a like crime watch Daily where they had a blueprint of the blueprints they had blueprints of the house and they had all
these indicators where they found blood it was all over the place and I believe that Justin's sister said well the baby
was throwing up because she's lactose intolerant she's throwing up blood well see that's what's going to happen here
captain in this part of our timeline where again new information comes out and like you said we have the depetros
who come forward that's when they're willing to come forward all of a sudden talk when new information comes out and
it doesn't make them look so good now they have a reason to come forward and talk to explain things away or push you
or your attention into another Direction well that's why you don't explain things
in the first place because then when the evidence comes out it doesn't contradict
your first story well and this is where the Public's going to get a lot of their
information on this case so let's go back to the end of January this is a vigil that was held for the still
missing a reyns where at the candlelight vigil Trista and Justin were seen talking briefly and it seemed like
everything was okay between the two of them they're even seen hugging very briefly for the first time in this whole
ordeal this being a little surprising to everybody that's been watching the coverage so far where they're kind of in
a roundabout way pointing fingers at each other and especially Trista is pointing the finger at her ex
pretty hard I think in in this situation in some of her interviews and statements
now her family specifically her mother Becca's husband his name is Jeff Hansen he started a website called a
reynolds.com and on there they posted whatever information they felt would shine a negative light on Justin of
course it's the idea of the website Captain is to help find aen provide information to the public that
will help locate a but when you view it you what you're going to see there is a lot of information that speaks
negatively about Justin and his inner circle so after the comments about the blood being found in the
house their website published more information even though the police did not want this information revealed the
info was that the blood found found at Justin's home belonged to Aya remember they didn't say who the blood was
from but apparently the Reynolds have reason to believe that they know that it's from they being law enforcement
know that it was from Aya they post this on the website and adding that the police told
the family that the blood was more than a small cut would produce yeah is equal to a cup full
pretty much by Justin's bed so then I wonder was there a rug there was there a towel there that was discarded that
might have had even more blood on it and so if that cup full is more than uh a small cut would produce how big of an
injury and what kind of injury happened to this poor child well and with this information somewhat leaked out to the
public now the the authorities are backed into a corner so then they have to then confirm that the blood found in
the house was in fact aa's to which the depetros are going to respond now and we
have Alicia who told crime watch Daily that AA was lactose intolerant and sick and vomiting which she believed
explained the police findings of blood in the house but I don't know I couldn't imagine your child is puking up blood
you go to the emergency room yes that's that's the issue with this if that was truly what was going on giant pile of
dog [ __ ] maybe maybe she didn't add enough words to her statement maybe she meant to indicate or
to to tell us that the girl could have been vomiting in the middle of the night you know when they weren't around when
no one was around to see it but that's I'm with you Captain that's immediately where my mind goes if if I see anyone
child or or adult or otherwise vomiting blood we get some people with medical knowhow involved in the situation yeah
okay look with this Justin character you don't have to use your imagination to know what I think of him
but I don't want to throw his mother under the bus or his sister under the bus and the fact of I don't know what
they know his mother wasn't there that night you know supposedly this guy's girlfriend was there I'm they're not
together now but why the hell isn't she coming for Lord and then but his sister I can't give you a pass if my niece or
nephew was over here throwing up blood and I called my sister and said hey your kid is throwing up blood and she said
don't worry about us they they're lactose intolerant I go no this ain't right they need to go to the emergency
room they need to see a doctor we I need to have somebody tell me um that this is
okay I've never heard of any anybody throwing up blood cuz they're lactose intolerant well the website was
eventually converted to a Blog in 2012 called answers for Aya and it continued to release information and we should be
clear here though Captain some of the information that they're pumping out it does paint Justin in a bad light and
maybe his sister as well but law enforcement technically have not backed up a lot the information that's being
released on that that site at the time one thing that was curious was that they were stating on the website that Justin
took out a life insurance policy on Aya uh this would have been soon after he took custody of her
so not something that he had from birth but according to their website if he did
this this was something he did after he had her in his custody in February of 2012 Justin and his family and friends
granted another interview with the Morning Sentinel they stuck to their guns that Aya was kidnapped Justin said
there were good reasons to believe Aya was kidnapped but he would not elaborate on that later he said that he found out
Trista had been in Waterville this is something that you had talked about had been in Waterville
around the time Aya vanished he's referring to that drive that Trista was on the drive from Portland and in fact
everybody right it would have taken her right by Waterville it's very it's weird
yeah it's very suspicious the my other issue too is she's going to go see her boyfriend or fiance and he's in
prison I mean is that correct that's the information I have so so Trista just has
a shitty ass picker like get a better picker you know like you you have a and not just for yourself but for your
daughter you know you you have a 22mon old daughter and you're you're picking some scumbag that's in jail mhm like and
who knows what he did right what he was in in there for and and maybe instead of
taking this long trip to go visit somebody maybe you because Justin is not letting you talk to your daughter I
believe the day before he said no you can't talk to her because she's watching Home Alone too now how much is a 22mon
year old understanding of home alone too at that point when somebody says no you
can't talk to your daughter yeah 75 miles away I'm driving up to check on my daughter but she wasn't doing that she
was going up to visit her boyfriend because her life well true but she's also filed she's filed paperwork with
the court system to get custody of her daughter back no she's taking legal matters into to her own hands and
pursuing getting her daughter back I understand that but but when you when she says look I tried to talk to my
daughter he wouldn't let me talk to her because she's watching a movie she found
that to be fishy or suspicious it's like you're in that area stop by and and check on your daughter yeah stop by
check and it also goes to what you were talking earlier that's why you need to have a plan in place you have to have
these formalities of who gets Aya win and where she's supposed to be that that's why you should have these things
put into place so you don't find yourself in a situation because when you don't have that put into place you can't
control what the other side's going to do you could be the most the best mother ever the most responsible parent ever
and do everything right however you cannot control anything that the other parent is going to do we all know that
Captain loves his moms right but there just needs to be a lot more education to be a a woman in today's age I mean after
the age of 30 they start calling women geriatric mothers like how how how awful is that
well you know we should be applauding people that decide to wait until they're financially stable until they're in a
better spot in their life to bring a child into this world but but we but we have the nerve to call women geriatric
mothers at the age of like 35 or whatever it is it's ridiculous but that's a whole another rant but but
again and I don't want to throw her too much under the bus but she then says well I
was thinking once I visited my boyfriend or fiance or whatever the heck he is right that she was thinking that maybe
she could stop by on the way back and then obviously she got the call but we won't know if
that's just her explaining a situation away after the information well twice in this case uh once on searches and once
kind of happen stance there were remains found that people believed at least for
a short period of time could have been that of Aya Reynolds and the first was in uh
2012 when they recovered a skeleton but very quickly determined that it was not Aya because it was an adult-sized
skeleton but when the first news of it came out they thought well maybe we finally found her right this turned out
to be the remains of Sten SE Brandon of Waterville who this is very tragic like a tragic Side Story here he had been
missing since February of 2004 so eight years um it I've did a little digging and it it appears that his death was a
suicide but can you imagine the hurt of of Step Brandon's family who went without answers for eight years in his
in his case he's was missing all of this time the other was when a baby de or who
was later dubbed the Deer Island Jane Dee was found in June of 2015 this one looked like it might be a
little more likely to be AA because it was the remains were that of an unidentified
toddler uh but it was eventually proved that Aya was not a possible identity match for those remains
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what's going on here Captain what this is going to devolve into in regards to the dietro family and the Reynolds
Family is a lot of interestingly bad behavior on both parts so we have a situation where the windows of Phoebe
dep Petro's home were broken two of the windows were busted out and police arrested 19-year-old Jeremy Hansen
for this act of vandalism who is a relative of Trista and then we have a situation
where in July there's this weird episode of Lance Depetro so this is Justin's brother I
guess he's sort of the enforcer in the family or at least is the a judge would later refer to him as an enforcer he was
convicted of assaulting his sister Alicia's estranged baby daddy Justin ly uh lyel was involved in a custody
dispute with Alisha over the child and apparently he had posted some comments on Facebook about his suspicions of
Justin D Petro's involvement in what happened to Aya and so after that this is when the brother steps into action
and uh assaults this guy and Lance I'm not not going to get into it but he already by this point in
his life had a a pretty extensive rap sheet in July of 2013 Justin himself was arrested for assault and this is
interesting because the person he assaulted was Courtney Roberts his now ex-girlfriend but she's the girlfriend
that was staying with him on the night that Aya vanished the story goes like this that
the two had an argument and Justin grabbed and pushed Courtney he was arrested again in September for
violating his bail and being in possession of alcohol you're look you're a [ __ ] wagon if you put your hands on a
woman the reason that this altercation is of interest to me is that look I I not thinking or believing Justin's story
of what's going on we're getting leaked this information about evidence that's telling us something else
happened now Courtney's got reason to go against jus but never really tells us anything bad
you know doesn't come forward and say Justin was lying Justin did something to Aya we don't get any information from
Courtney where now she's in a position to where she might want to join the other side and finally tell the truth is
she really or is she just in a position that we know that this guy is now capable of violence and and maybe when
they got an argument she said I oh I'll go cops and that's why the the it even escalated and is she fearful of her
safety or does she also feel like it's too late that if she comes forward now that she's too much involvement yeah
she'll be railroaded herself well around the same time that this is all going on
we have a situation behind the scenes Captain where the police contact both parents both of aa's parents Justin and
Trista separately and they say look we don't believe that she's still alive we're months and months into this
investigation we have evidence that tell us that she's probably not alive and we
have reasons to believe that she's not alive and now we're conducting our investigation as such with that in mind
so the parents were notified by the police of that change in their investigation this leads us to late
September 200 13 remember Justin has that assault charge against Courtney or on Courtney I apologize and this gets
interesting because there ends up being a headline regarding this his court date
for September 2013 from Central main.com and the headline reads AA Reynolds Family Feud erupts outside
Courthouse this would be almost comical right if the subject matter weren't so tragic if we didn't have a missing
little girl here well it shows you how immature both parties involved are well let's let's review what went down here
according to Central Maine as they reported it they said a confrontation began when D Petro's mother Phoebe
Depetro called Reynolds Father Ryan Reynolds in obscenity in the courtroom prompting him to follow her into a
hallway where the verbal exchange escalated according to Witnesses Phoebe Depetro walked past Trista and Ron
Reynolds and whispered something to them Ron Reynolds then stood up and followed
her out into the hallway shouting what did you say to me Phoebe Depetro kept walking while Reynolds was restrained by
security officers and he's yelling your son killed my granddaughter now Phoebe dietro and Ron Reynolds were escorted
from the building by the marshals and this what followed shortly afterward was Trista Reynolds and other members of
the Reynolds Family were asked to leave so this situation devolves into basically some of the Reynolds Camp
shouting at the depetros we know you did something wrong you know your son killed
my granddaughter things of that nature but what's interesting here is look you get you got people out there in listener
land right now who are going well why in the hell would the Reynolds Family even
be at this hearing about Justin's domestic violence charge at all right it didn't involve them it didn't involve
their granddaughter or daughter Aya the short answer is Trista had actually quite cleverly
planned this out she wanted to force some kind of confrontation with Justin a public conf confrontation to
draw attention to the fact that she believed that he should be charged in A's disappearance and his court appearance
gave her a platform to do this and she said quote I don't understand why Justin Alicia and Courtney have not been
charged yet those would be the three adults at the depure home the night that Aya went missing I don't understand why
they haven't been charged with lying to the police we respect the dedication of the police agencies and the prosecutor's
office in pursuing this case however we disagree with the delaying arrest and prosecution so this gets very convoluted
and then sometimes people say well follow the money and maybe that will lead you to what really happen and what
we do know is 3 days before she went missing that Justin the father took out a life insurance policy on her now that
can't be collected just because she goes missing so so he would have to or Trista
would have to declare her deceased now in order to do this that's not that easy you have to have some kind
of evidence where you can submit that to the courts and then the courts have to decide whether they're going to declare
her as deceased or not yes which doesn't automatically then trigger the insurance
money payout correct now I mean jumping ahead here quite a bit because it wasn't
until 2019 that Justin was specifically asked about the insurance policy and we now
know that that was not just an accusation by the Reynolds Family it was in fact true because his own words were
yes we did have a life insurance policy on AA Reynolds and according to his statement he bought a life insurance
policy on Aya about a month before her disappearance is his statement let's get into the blood evidence that trista's
family is going to use to try to get her declared deceased well the blood evidence is
more yes it's it is used for that for that purpose as well but when the blood evidence gets released to the public
it's being released via the Reynolds website it for Aya the one that's putting out information putting Justin
Depetro in a bad light so this information comes on their website magically shortly after this shouting
match outside of the courthouse at Justin's domestic violence charge case what they did was they posted documents
on their website that had a ton of information on them which if true are very damning it's very damning
information so I'll read through this it says on January 3rd of this year investigators from the main State Police
met with Trista Alex which is trista's boyfriend and Melissa which is Alex's mother for the purpose of disclosing a
slideshow of Select blood evidence collected from the diet's property in aa's case the following summarizes the
slideshow contents aa's blood found the blood evidence described here was visible to the naked eye so everything
we are about to list for you here was visible to the naked eye of the detectives in the forensic text working
the scene they found several drops of aa's blood were found on the left shoulder strap of aa's car seat in
Justin's vehicle aa's dried vomit was found on the back seat droplets of aa's blood were found on pom poms of her pink
princess slippers a silver dollar size stain of ao's blood was found on a sofa in the dietro family's living room this
would be in the main floor of the house aa's blood was found smeared on her baby
doll's face and arms in the bedroom that she shared with Alicia deo's daughter what they State here Captain is that the
thought was that maybe Aya triy to wipe blood from her mouth with the doll I've not seen the doll or the blood evidence
on this or or a photograph of this as it's not been released to the public but I'm guessing that that the smear of that
blood would give the impression that that might have been something that occurred drops of aa's blood were found
on a fan cord in Justin's basement bedroom aa's blood SP aa's blood splatter was found on a plastic blue
tote in the basement and a sheet that was found inside had aa's blood stains on it as well the main
State Police said that they believed that this sheet was used to clean up aa's blood several drops of aa's blood
were found on the tongue and inside Justin's sneakers in the basement beside his bed a fist-sized stain of aa's blood
was found on Justin's mattress and sheets this sample contains saliva possibly a vomit and a toy hair a toy
like hair pink fiber which at the time the state police had not identified but later we're going to learn that that
came from a toy several splatters of aa's blood were found on sections of the cement floor and wall beside Justin's
bed these blood splatters were consistent with aa's standing height and were up to a dime in size State Police
blood analysis determined that the blood splatters were created by intense projectile vomiting and or blunt force
trauma several splatters of aa's blood were found on a wood pallet leaning against a wall in the basement now the
state police detectives and a grief counselor from the Attorney General's office were there with the Reynolds
Family with Trista during this slideshow and after the photos of blood visible to
the naked eye were shown the state police began to show the luminol enhanced photo so this is blood
that they only found by way of use of luminal well I bet these rooms lit up like a damn Christmas tree well the the
collective impression from the slid show that Trista Alex and Melissa are seeing
was that you know Justin's bedroom looked like a murder scene from all of the blood evidence that they're showing
coming from that basement area the state police determined that the samples some
of the samples of aa's blood exhibited a spray pattern so this is not consistent
with like a cut like oh I cut my hand on a on a a a can or or on some broken glass or something of that nature this
is blood that's being sprayed out some of the samples uh contained saliva of course this could be from the vomiting
but what the state police were saying was that they believe that the evidence is showing them that Aya was coughing up
blood from internal injuries and they concluded that Aya's injuries were both internal and external according to the
blood evidence that they were finding mhm makes you wonder if they gave her some liquid to drink or or some
items to drink or or to eat you know what I mean yeah I I mean I don't know to cause death I mean whatever happened
was would have been a violent reaction yeah by the child if she was given something but they're stating that they
believe that the blood evidence is showing them that the injuries were internal and external I mean how is that
not enough to put somebody Behind Bars this poor girl H how could you do that to to a child well and this is an
interesting way to sort of spin it or bring some kind of justice for Aya against Justin here because in
2014 Trista wrote a letter to the Morning Sentinel newspaper this was requesting that the district attorney
should bring child endangerment charges against Justin Depetro Tristan had acknowledged in the
past that the murder charges were unlikely without her child's body but she pointed out in this letter that
police had found blood they shared that information with her and believed it was
of sufficient amounts to indicate a crime had been committed now at this time in our
timeline 2014 the statute of limitations on the child endangerment charges would
expire in months if not levied against Justin quickly her letter said quote who can argue Aya was not a victim of
heinous abuse her father had a duty to protect her and he did not and for that he needs to be prosecuted you may not
have the authority to prosecute Justin for murder but you do have the authority and the obligation to prosecute him for
other crimes and then Trista went on to detail the evidence that police had collected the blood evidence to back up
her statement of hey at least charge this guy with something now one of the confusing legal matters in this case
wrapped up in the whole case itself is unfortunately the district attorney didn't have any jurisdiction over this
case because the case had already been transferred early in the investigation to the State Attorney General's office
so per main law the attorney general has exclusive jurisdiction over homicides and other major cases and since aa's
case was considered a major case that's where the jurisdiction would lie so Deputy Attorney General William Stokes
explained that the main criminal code a defendant can't be subject to separate trials for multiple offenses based on
the same conduct or arising from the same crime except in certain instances this means that if they went ahead and
nailed Justin for child endangerment then the state would lose the ability later to prosecute him for
murder so their hands are a little tight here and it looks to me like what you were saying earlier Captain they have
some evidence telling them that a murder is probably what we're dealing with that's ultimately what they want to
charge him with and that's the direction that their investigation has been on for
quite some time yeah it seems to me like this individual the father should be put
into prison and it seems to me that there's clearly enough evidence to know that that this child was murdered
murdered in that house and that these adults four of them let's say because whether the the mother was there or not
she has to know more than that she's saying and why they're not coming forward is absolutely ridiculous why
you're going to try to save your son and and not protect your granddaughter it's absolutely just
doesn't make any sense we put this guy in prison you know he become a a knob Peddler but junkie real quick in prison
the direction that Trista is going to go in and pursue again trying to seek some
kind of Justice unfortunately in 2017 she has to go in front of a judge and explain that her child is dead I need
you to legally declare Aya to be dead here's some of the evidence that I was shown can you can you please make this
uh determination and of course no parent wants to have to go in front of a judge
and ask for this for anything like this at all you want to keep hope and hold on
to hope that maybe there's a chance that she's still alive but part of this is to
try to get some form of Justice because once Aya is legally declared to be dead now we can pursue some civil action
against Justin Depetro if we can't get him for criminal in the criminal courts we'll get him in a civil lawsuit Court
we will charge you know we will come at him with a lawsuit of a wrongful death lawsuit and this opens up a couple of
things one it opens up the closed case files of Aya Reynolds investigation and what the police findings were and what
they know and the facts that they collected along the way it opens those up to both sides the depetros and the Reynolds
pursuing those and reviewing that information in there in either a defense or a challenge against Justin it also
opens up Justin Depetro his mother his sister his ex-girlfriend to a whole different line of questioning because in
this Arena Captain they will be deposed so they will will be under oath they will be held to the standard that they
could perger themselves or if they start telling different stories or even different stories from one another that
would warrant further investigation you can't have three adults in the house all
telling different stories at night yeah again like I said it's just it's unbelievable that his family would have
this they have the evidence in front of their face and that somebody's not coming forward and saying whether it's
an accident or or not or whatever it's like they it's almost like they didn't care at all about this poor little baby
well and that's what's bizarre here in this case to me because we've seen other cases where something bad goes down and
years go by and then stories start to change or information coming out of the bad guys Camp which sorry toetos I'm
calling you the bad guys Camp because you look like a bunch of bad guys right now and in these other stories that
we've covered there's information that comes out later in from the bad guys camps that that start to tell us a
little bit of what may have happened that yes there was some kind of accident or there was some kind of violence that
night or we gave the child something and they had a reaction here it's bizarre to me Captain
that we have all these years later and I'm glad I'm I'm I'm very happy that the Reynolds pursued this civil suit to try
to force these individuals to talk because I can't believe look at the end of the day you could tell me maybe Mama
Depetro doesn't know what happened and I could believe that I could take a bite off that apple and roll with it but I
can't believe that his sister and his girlfriend I can't think of a scenario that would go down that would show and
leave this kind of evidence blood evidence in the house that they didn't see anything or hear anything or not
know I absolutely 100% believe that Justin Depetro knows fully what happened and is probably fully responsible for
what happened to this little girl why we haven't heard information from the sister or the ex-girlfriend is anyone's
guest and like you said maybe they're just too involved now according to Trista she says that police basically
told her that Aya was killed wrapped up put in the plastic tote that we mentioned the plastic tote bag found in
the basement and disposed of of course but where is anyone's guess if they had her remains I think they're
moving forward with charges of murder against Justin Depetro on the 9th anniversary of aa's Disappearance in
December of 2020 things were on hold they were pending preparation for the Civil Trial tris's attorney William
Childs said that he was awaiting documents from the State Attorney General's office he pointed out that
$500,000 of Investigation by the state of Maine went into aa's case and had produced a lot of materials that he
needed to review for the civil suit trista's family set up a GoFundMe account to help pay for legal expenses
now this is not for the attorney the attorney is working prob Bono here he's doing good work in trying to help out
some people in need the GoFundMe account is to help pay for legal expenses for expert witness fees child said that
because of the pandemic there would be a long delay before a trial happened since
civil trials are less priority than criminal trials so we will sit captain and we will wait to find out what is
going to happen in this civil case and see if it leads to more information information that might lead to the
recovery of the remains of this little girl which could then lead to charges against Justin Depetro maybe his
ex-girlfriend Courtney and his sister Alicia as a result of aa's case Waterville 911 dispatch became the third
in the state of M to be certified in procedures designed to better handle 911 calls in a missing person's
case and that might help in cases where the caller genuinely is concerned and wants the missing person to be found
however if the caller is only pretending to seek police involvement and has no intention of communicating helpful
information all the training in the world will not help police find the victim [Music]
want to thank you guys so much for joining us here every week in the garage you truly are our best
friends in the whole entire world Colonel any recommended reading how about a little recommended viewing
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longtime friend of the garage Joshua Zan the Sons of Sam is a Netflix docu series
that confronts a true crime Legend and speaking of Legends this is an added bonus the great Paul giamani narrates
the series and giamani is fantastic as a narrator we've had Joshua on the show in
the past to discuss his other works The Killing season and killer Legends and we
had Son of Sam victim Carl daero on off the record on our other show off the Record not too long ago to discuss his
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Ayla Reynolds was just a little more than 19 months old when she disappeared. She was last seen the night before in her crib. At 8:51a.m. the next morning Justin Dipietro called 911 emergency services to report his daughter missing. That call set off a chain of events that eventually grew into the largest criminal investigation in Maine’s history. Join us in the garage for the details of this ongoing investigation.

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Brief Summary

Aya Reynolds' disappearance prompts a complex investigation involving blood evidence and family conflicts.

Key points

Polygraph Test Controversy. Justin Depetro claims he passed a polygraph test, but police dispute his statements.
Investigation Turns Criminal. The case evolves from a missing child search to a criminal investigation after evidence suggests foul play.
Blood Found in the Home. Police confirmed blood was found in the Depetro home, raising serious concerns about foul play.
Custody Battle Escalates. A mother takes legal action to regain custody of her daughter, revealing deep family tensions.
Family Confrontation in Court. A courtroom altercation highlights the intense emotions surrounding Aya's disappearance.
Insurance Policy Controversy. Days before Aya's disappearance, Justin took out a life insurance policy on her, raising suspicions.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I told the truth and that's it.

Justin's claim about his polygraph test results.

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Tension

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