Annie McCarrick /// Part 1 /// 380 | Forensic Files

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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] this week we load up the flying garage ship for a tragic mystery far away some
may say across the pond over to an island in the North Atlantic touching down in Ireland as of 2016 the
population of Ireland was about 6.6 million people ranking it one of the most populous islands in all of Europe
the geography of Ireland comprises of low-lying mountains surrounding a central plain the climate is influenced
by the Atlantic Ocean and thus very moderate the winters are milder than most would anticipate but the summers
are cooler than most of those in continental Europe Irish culture has significantly influenced other cultures
and shares many features with that of Great Britain including the English language and sports like football rugby
horse-racing and golf but none of that of course is why we are here no we are here due to the result of circumstances
that are truly unpleasant we are here because of Ireland's vanishing triangle which is a term commonly used by the
media when referring to a number of high-profile disappearances during the 90s over a span of about five years and
four months at least eight women vanished from an 80-mile area outside Dublin in the lynnster area and what
became known as the vanishing triangle six of these cases are particularly well known because of the investigations they
precipitated due to similarities some believe a serial killer or serial killers were active in this area during
this time the Irish police have set up many investigative operations and unfortunately much of this effort has
failed to produce any substantial clues we often see that law enforcement will not show their hand in most
investigations as a simple but intelligent strategy and is only when desperation truly sets in that they do
so and that is the case here with the triangle you see the nature of these disappearances are so unexplained and
random that the Irish media needed to create an ominous moniker similar to that of the Bermuda Triangle to truly
convey the full scope of this mystery but the name was created by the media and therefore does not tell us of the
level of desperation on the part of the investigators no it is their actions that take us beyond the curtain most
rewards are offered up as a bounty for an arrest leading to a conviction of a perpetrator of a crime or crimes in
these cases a reward is offered up for information resulting in the recovery of a body this week join us as we take a
focused look at the first case in a series of disappearances of young women so pattern and perplexing it became
known as Ireland's vanishing triangle this is true crime garage and this is the case of Annie McCarrick
[Music] [Music] anemic Eric was the only child of parents John and Nancy McCarrick she was
born in March of 1966 and lived with her parents in Bayport on Long Island in the
great state of New York she was very close with her parents John was a retired New York City police
officer cheers to the boys and girls in blue and Nancy was a school administrator helping to educate and
raise America's youth Nancy's parents were born in Ireland and Annie grew up loving Irish culture in fact Bay port
was populated with thousands of Irish immigrants and Annie grew up steeped in Irish culture and Irish Catholic
traditions while she was enrolled at Skidmore College this was in 1987 Annie took a trip to the Emerald Isle she fell
in love with Ireland and transferred to National University of Ireland at Maynooth and Dublin to finish her BA
after she graduated her parents insisted that she returned to the u.s. to get a graduate degree which she did obtaining
a master's degree in English from su NY Stony Brook but in January of 1993 against mom and dad's best wishes the
then 25 year old Annie returned to Ireland she had lots of friends from her college days there and it sounds like
that's really where her heart was well she is going to need somewhere to live when she returns there so while looking
for a flat to lease she's going to shack up with some of her old friends this is
an engaged couple their names Hilary Brady which just point out that's that's a man baby and read a fortune Hilary was
the brother of an ex-boyfriend of Annie's his name is Philip Brady she eventually settled in the idyllic
upscale seaside suburb of Dublin call this is called Sandymount where one of her literary idols the poet James Joyce
had once resided even though she already had a graduate degree any plan to take courses at st. Patrick's Training
College to get her degree in education so she could teach high school English she supported herself by working long
hours as a waitress at a place called cafe Java where customers loved the the pretty sweet young American girl that
worked there her best friend from Bay Port Blue Point High School on Long Island Linda ring house said of Annie
she had a love affair with Ireland quote she loved the food she loved the people
she loved the music she loved the books and she loved the scenery she jokingly says she even loved
the plants Linda said that Annie told her quote it's almost like I lived there in a previous life Annie was 5 foot 8
inches tall so a tall woman with strong features intense eyebrows and an unruly curly dark hair she has been described
as vivacious and friendly a total people person who loved company who was always
smiling and outgoing but probably a little naive in general about people now let's take a moment here to address the
setting for our listeners who aren't familiar with Ireland and the Dublin area specifically the Republic of
Ireland is a democratic nation which had a population in 1993 the year that Annie
moved there of about 3.5 eight million people now it's a separate country from Northern Ireland which is much smaller
and is part of the United Kingdom the quiet residential area of Dublin where Annie lived is just six kilometers or
about 3.75 miles from downtown Ireland is a very safe country in general in 2017 for example there were only
41 homicides Sandymount where Inez flat was was one of the safest areas of Dublin Annie told friends that she felt
much safer there than she did back home in New York in fact one of the women who
worked with Annie at Cafe Java said that Annie would often walk home alone sometimes this is even at like 3:00 in
the morning mm-hmm all right captain on to the disappearance a little warning here though first Annie was not abducted
in the sense that no one claims to have seen her being tossed into a vehicle or to have heard a scream or really
anything of that nature so we are going to go through about three days of what we know and included in this are some
things that have been reported but may not actually be confirmed these could some of these things are unconfirmed so
as you will see there is no clear timestamp here in our timeline where we can say for certain
okay here is when things started to go wrong or at this time we know Annie is in trouble the three days we are going
to go through will be a Thursday Friday and Saturday with really the day in question primarily being the Friday
March 26th 1993 okay so listen closely and captain chime in if anything I say gets confusing okay the police are
Guardi as the irish national police force is called were able to reconstruct some of Annie's movements leading up to
her disappearance we know that she worked at Cafe Java on Thursday evening and when she finished her shift she had
said that she would come in the next day which would be Friday this to collect her wages and drop off some homemade
pies she was a was quite the Baker so often the restaurant or whatever you want to call Cafe Java
they would pay her to to bake things at home and then she would bring them in and they would they would sell them
there mm-hmm her next scheduled shift was on Saturday okay so Thursday evening she works tells her employer or
coworkers I'm coming in tomorrow to collect my wages and drop off these homemade pies however she's not
technically working on Friday that's her day off her next actual work shift schedule is on Saturday so this
leads us to the Friday morning yes that's correct what we know that takes place early on
Friday morning we have her two roommates who says that they they kind of say goodbye to Annie at this point these are
two ladies that she shared her flat with and Sandymount and a complex called st. Catherine's
Court the two other ladies this is Ida Walsh and Jill Twomey were headed off to visit their families and what they
popped into Annie's room simply just to say goodbye hey we're getting ready to leave at this time they say that Annie
was sitting up in bed and she was knitting she told Ida and Jill does she plan to go for a walk that day and we're
gonna refer to this I this to me seems more of a like planned hike not just a walking around town situation but in all
the reports it's often referred to as a walk hiking seems to be something that Annie
did fairly regularly and we'll get into that a little bit more as that's fairly important to the story now the two of
them her two roommates say that they left the flat at 8:50 a.m. and so now Annie is going to have the apartment to
herself for that weekend she did have some upcoming plans as well she planned a dinner party for herself at the flat
with friends to celebrate her birthday now her birthday was a well what five days before yeah so we know
she had some plans and we have a general version for that weekend of what the plans are to be but now we're gonna
start getting into some things that we don't know exactly what happened but we also know that the following weekend so
she has plans for that weekend Saturday I'm gonna make some food for my friends we're gonna have a little get-together
here following week my mother's gonna come into town correct so she's got things that she's looking forward to as
well you know she's got Friday off all depends on if you like your mother or your friends
she's got Friday off she tells her her employer hey I'm gonna stop by for these reasons we know she's scheduled to work
on Saturday her dinner party's going to be after her shift on Saturday and then as you stated mom is coming into not
town not just the town into the country to visit me in about a week now we do know some things that happen for certain
one we have CCTV footage that captured an e at the Allied Irish Bank and Sandymount sometime before 11 a.m. right
I get a little frustrated here with these reports captain because it's it's closed-circuit TV footage saying that
this is sometime before 11:00 a.m. so to me it's not really clear how this time frame is not more specific or more exact
because entering these LAN video every CCTV camera their clock is always wrong yeah we're on we've done like 380
episodes so we've covered well over a hundred cases and any time there's security footage involved they've never
seemed to have the clock right right there's a tricky thing it's it's it's really what time is it now nobody knows
nobody knows so it says some time before 11:00 a.m. in the reports that I found now she is visible on the CCTV footage
wearing a knee-length coat and carrying a Satchel at the bank she is there chatting and talking with staff who say
they knew her these are people that say not only was that Annie but we we know her not just you know as a customer
whatever we've seen her multiple times there apparently there are a few different versions and you and I were
talking about this in the garage earlier of what her activities were were that day and the wig well were were what time
is it now uh who knows um clocks are off by about an hour there are stories that say she was simply
making a deposit or withdrawal right the more specific reports that I've read captain's say that she was actually
transferring an account to this branch from another branch from a different area of town and making a bit of a leap
here right and I've heard the opposite that she's actually taking her money out of this bank to open up a different
different account and a different Bank okay so I'm making a bit of a leap here but but if we go back to what we do know
we know that she fairly recently moved to this specific area so it does seem likely that she could be transferring an
account to this branch she has a car but the car you will notice is really absent
from this story my understanding is that it was a manual transmission and you know how does some people buy those and
they don't know how to operate a manual transmission it sounds like she wasn't comfortable doing so and so you'll see
throughout this story she's often walking places yeah or that's getting on a bus that's
our community was set up anyways it was not that far from Dublin so it was considered the best spot to live if you
wanted to commute in and out of Dublin this this sounds like a idyllic place to live if you like okay you got a little
bit of schooling you want to finish up you got this cool job working at cafe Java you can walk basically everywhere
that you need to get be it to a pub or to the bank or wherever sounds like a fantastic place now my thought is
because she recently moved there maybe she was transferring an account for whatever reason regardless of what she
was doing there that day we know several things once she's seen by people that know her right and she is captured on
surveillance footage yeah and you can see the footage for yourself and just by looking at a handful of pictures of
Annie and then looking at that footage it's very clear that's a hundred percent of her and I'm gonna make another leap
here that I think is spot-on my friend not only because we've seen it a million times but the next part of the timeline
kind of clears this up right so she then goes to the Quinns Worth supermarket where her receipt which would later be
found in her apartment the receipt is time-stamped for 1102 11:02 a.m. for that day so that tells you that yes the
the clock on the surveillance footage is wrong and so they they know that it was
before 11:00 because she was at the supermarket at 11:00 making these purchases on her way back to her flat
she used a public phone kiosk to make two phone calls that we know of she could have I want to stress this she
could have made more calls but we are aware of what two of these calls were and again this is 1993 so that the
public phones everywhere yeah pay phone a public phone kiosk sounds so much nicer than pay phone and I don't
know if it's the same thing and maybe you don't have to pay I don't know but my understanding is that the
phone they had in their flat their landline didn't always work and so it was not uncommon for her to use one of
these public phones now let's get to the calls one of the phone calls was to her
friend Hillary just confirming that he and Rita would be coming over for dinner on Saturday just to firm that up a bit
the second call was to a female friend named Ann O'Dwyer Annie invited Ann to go hiking with her
later that day the chosen location for the hike is an area called NS Kerry according to their visitor website the
village of Ennis Cary is located just 30 minutes south of Dublin City and is the
gateway to Wicklow which is referred to as the Garden of Ireland widely regarded
as one of Ireland's most charming villages and as Kerry is a wonderful place to visit live and work in
that's not my endorsement that's from their website yeah well more I don't think their websites going to go coming
there it's it's a real gut real dump more importantly to our story is that one of Annie's favorite this is one of
her favourite areas to hike and she had been there many times before often with this friend that she's calling and
asking hey do you want to go with me later today for a hike right right we've done this before let's do it again again
judging from what I could see on their site on their website this is a very scenic area with waterfalls and gorgeous
views so I've seen pictures it's a real dumpster fire it makes sense that this would be a desired place to go hiking
now and her friend not Annie and Anne gets a little confusing and her friend that she
invited had recently suffered an injury to her ankle an ankle injury and she told Annie that she could not go along
with her that day and he then tells Ann hey that's fine I hope you feel better but I might go anyway by myself
so this call to Ann was really the last known contact Annie had with any of her friends at this point it appears that
Annie returned to her flat right it is not known exactly what she did in the next couple of hours but it seems that
she made some pies and did some laundry sometime after 1 p.m. a plumber saw Annie leaving the
apartment complex heading toward the new Grove Avenue bus stop he says the two said hello as they recognized each other
a second witness this is Bruno borsa owner of a shop nearby says he saw Annie flag down the departing number 18 bus
shouting for it to stop this bus was headed along to a Western Lee route to Rana lay and it did not run very often
captain so Annie's flagging this bus down rather than waiting and waiting and waiting for the next one to arrive
the bus stopped and she boarded the bus and the bus drove off before we move on I do want to note something here we have
the plumber who says that sometime around 1:00 o'clock is when he saw Annie I don't know what he's using to judge
this this time off of you know I don't under I don't think he's saying hey I looked at my watch and I saw her walk by
it at 10 after one regarding the the items that we get into after this in the timeline it would actually seem that
that time stamps should be pushed back a little further that this likely happened
around 2:00 or 2:30 which doesn't really mean much I mean we just have somebody an eyewitness saying yeah I saw her
leaving the complex and I believe it was around this time it might in fact be just a little bit later now in Rana lay
Annie was seen by a former colleague someone who says they knew her well what she's seen waiting in line for the
number 44 bus this is around 3:40 p.m. this bus was the one that ran to Anna's carry which would be about 12 miles away
in the Wicklow Mountains where Annie told her friend and that she had planned to go on the hike right
the colleague named Amir O'Grady did not get a chance to speak to Annie as she sat down stairs on the bus while Annie
sat in the upper deck while when a mere got off I guess they got off in in Milltown is a mirror guy or girl a girl
what she says that she did not see Annie get off the bus at any time so her assumption is that Annie was still on
the bus when a mere gets off and then you know she gets Annie's getting off at a different stop later what's strange
about this is according to this timeline Annie would not have arrived in the mountains to begin her hike until around
4:15 p.m. in late March sunset was typically at 6:45 p.m. so a lot of people have brought this up that it
seems like she's going to a lot of trouble to go on a hike that might be less than two hours or lasts about two
hours and she's taken two buses that's not that big of a deal but but she's traveling far from home to a desolate
area it's not that far hmm I think that's under 20 miles I think that's debatable where where I
can bat that that debate is I'm a person that enjoys hiking however most of the hikes I go on are fairly short and in
fact they're shorter than two hours so kind of seems like you don't like hiking no the trail that I like is is close to
my home and you can take it three different routes one would take you about an hour and a half one takes an
hour one takes about 40 minutes I prefer the hour-long one selfishly because a lot of the podcasts I listen to her
about an hour long so the the hour-long trail works well for me but to to the defense of the people that say hey this
seems like a lot of movement here to go hiking by yourself for a short period of
time the trail that I take that's on that short Pike is very close to my home it's it's
incredibly convenient nevertheless all of these sightings of Annie on Friday the 26th seem to be accepted by the
Guardi as pretty reliable which I guess it seems pretty logical because either the witnesses were all people who were
acquainted with Annie you know such as the the former colleague Amir or they were able to describe her accurately
enough that police were comfortable that their information was correct so let's dive into that right after this quick
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two sightings of Annie are much more up for debate and rightfully so because I think you'll agree with me captain there
are some serious question as to whether they are accurate or not so a woman who worked at the post office and Ennis
Carey who was interviewed this is in the weeks after Annie's disappearance said that a tall American woman came in on
that Friday to buy some stamps remember that since Annie was not native to Ireland she would have stood out simply
by virtue of her accent rain and remember also that these are small towns really villages where people know each
other and recognize faces but let's keep in mind no one can say for certain if it
was Annie that the postal clerk saw but let's say that it was and that the clerk
is correct if she was correct then Annie was at the post office and in his carry
between 4:00 and 5:00 p.m. this would mean that perhaps Annie decided to hang around in his carry rather than go
hiking the next sighting is one that is hotly debated it is a sighting supposedly of Annie at Johnnie Fox's pub
between 9:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. this pub dating all the way back to 1798 is a known tourist destination referred to as
Ireland's highest pub because of its mountain setting at nine hundred and twenty feet above sea level and Annie
had been there or this would not be her first rodeo as they would say oh this is a tourist
hotspot there you go there there were an estimated 350 people there that evening
a lot of people out of bar after seeing Annie on the news a bouncer named Sam Duran came forward
and told the guard Yvette he remembered seeing a woman that night who he was certain was Annie right he was the guy
the bouncer at the front of the bar collecting there was a cover charge that night because there was music that's
correct yeah she's trying to get into this it's like a separate event area of Johnny
Fox's the Huli room that was putting on a traditional Irish folk music show where I would be seen there river
dancing my face off right the bouncer told her that there was a two-pound cover charge and he says that she seemed
surprised by this and began to you know she's rummaging through her bag looking for money to pay the cover well on this
gentleman has a very thick Irish accent and so that's another thing that would give any away would be the fact that she
was American spoke English but with that American accent right well and this is where I think the unless she was like
one of those posers that started like trying to talk like she's Irish she's living there or or an Irish lady that is
opposed or trying to speak sound American right what is that movie crap I can't think of it it's one of the oh
that doesn't much one of the diehards where right where the foreign terrorist guy he's like all you have to do is chew
gum and you sound American oh it's pretty easy to do it possible so to say Walmart a lot the the thing
though too that I think gets a little dicey with a lot of this is five foot eight fairly tall you know it's above
average height for a lady she has an American accent it's almost like but the dumb thing
though two is that she does have Irish features she does but could you see a situation where somebody gets confused
because they saw a tall American woman just made the leap that it was in fact a nanny especially in a place like this
that is known for tourism you know to have a lot of tourists visiting this seems like a very American thing to go
to if you're visiting Ireland well first we have the plumber I question that just
based on the time as far as like did he see her probably he saw her what time was it one was it closer to 11 we've
seen constantly with eyewitness reports than being completely wrong and so could
he did he see Annie on her way to the bank I don't know but at least we know that somebody saw her that day but that
doesn't matter anyways because we have our on CCTV then she's flagging down this bus
possibly she would probably be more known to people in her area anyways because she's working on a coffee shop
and how many of those individuals go in and get coffee and and and see her maybe
not know her personally but no or through no of her yeah yeah and it's and there's probably not you know the these
there's a handful of American students in school with her and so they were all kind of popular by default so we don't
know we have no a hundred percent proof that she got on that bus we don't have any kind of record that she bought a you
know a token or bought a pass for the bus we have no clue so we have no clue if she even got on the bus from there we
have somebody that supposedly knows her but doesn't actually make contact doesn't speak with her yeah right so
again there's been several times that I've been places where I thought I saw somebody oh that's my buddy and you
start walking over nope that's not my buddy is that possible it's definitely impossible here
so really we have no proof where she's ahead at all and so can we you know there was actually a investigator from
Scotland Yard mm-hmm that worked this case and he he kept saying if you get to this point that were at this bar and you
believe this individual and he believed this bouncer and he says I know honor to
present for certain it was this a girl again he doesn't know her right so other than pictures in his memory and he's he
sees her on the news and he's like oh yeah I that Friday she was in line and I I remember telling her it's two pounds
well it's not even like it's it's not later that night he's telling somebody this it's not and look again I'm not
faulting this this man I just I believe he's trying to help this situation I just questioned if seeing that many
people that night in a touristy area if he was in fact right and here's the other thing too when you see a picture
of somebody on the news you know we've done this with other disappearances or really other victims in general right
you see one picture of that person and I mean with Amy Mahalo Vic she's got that
one famous missing-persons poster right the flyer and if you look at some of her
other pictures or that video of her up in front of the classroom giving a presentation she doesn't look like that
famous photo of her yeah and what I'm getting at with that is what did this gentleman see on the news to lead him
down the road of oh yeah I saw her and I think we should add a little more detail
because he does have a little more detail to his sighting what she was saying that she is searching for the
money and then this gentleman behind her was like I'll pay for both yeah he says
a a man in his late 20s who was standing behind her in line offered to pay for them both but this also makes somewhat
sense they would have been similar ages and he said regardless if it was a m-- or an e
or not the woman accepted his offer right the bouncer says that this man was at least 5 foot 8 inches tall wearing a
three-quarter length waxed canvas jacket he's of athletic build clean-shaven with
a short military-style haircut he was holding a pint of beer the as we said the man paid and an E or the woman
thanked him and she walked into the holy room with him the bouncer he called this
gentleman flat chested with broad shoulders which is you know I've never actually heard that term he was
describing all the athletic build mm-hmm so I've never heard flat chested what what that would mean for a man flat
chested broad shoulders I'm guessing just maybe skinny yeah athletic build but um but he would have a good okay if
Annie's 5/8 and let's just assume it's her then he would have a good indication of how tall this individual was oh he's
roughly about the same height that's her maybe a little bit taller yeah 5 8 to 5
10 yes and that's what I think the the specific report says that in that 5 foot 8 to 5 foot 10 range he also says that
he does not recall seeing an e or at least the woman he believes to be an e again at any time that night and
according to the Long Island Daily News and exhaustive canvassing of the area turned up no one else who recalled
seeing her at Johnny Fox's that night Bosse I have different reports that a handful of people said it was possible
that they saw her that that night backed up the bouncers story but what we can agree on here is it's far from clear
whether Annie was actually at Johnny Fox's at all that night or if there was just American with Burnett American
roughly five six five eight in this pub yeah that's a tourist hotspot the other thing too is
the pub Johnny foxes is about 3.5 miles from Anna's carry in a village of Glen :
if Annie was there we don't have anybody telling us how she got there and what was she doing in the in
iscariot area all evening leading up to this because this is between 9:00 and 11:00 p.m. at night that she's
supposedly seen at at Johnny Fox's great so there's nearly a four-hour time period between these supposed sightings
of when Annie was I mean she's unaccounted for so something really this could if this is not Annie and all in
these other sightings and something happened before this well before this right it's really difficult but most
investigators believe the friend that saw her getting onto the next bus to take her to her destination take her to
the place that she told people she's gonna go hike that day mm-hmm most investigators believe that
eyewitness so if you believe that I witness she is in that area yes this pub is three points some miles away that's
not that far depending on which part did she hike did she meet up with people did she call her a friend you know Ann
and her leg was you know hurt and she called somebody else right there somebody that she knew from her past
male or female that she this was like well I'll call them when I get up there or she made additional calls at that
that public phone right we just don't know of I mean or possibly made another stop at a different phone because again
I don't know how big that City is but back in the early 90s there's payphones all over the place at
least here so I'm just assuming that there'd be more than one local phone that should make call that the other
thing that we have to question too is at some point in the night the buses will stop running so if she
was at at Johnny Fox's at 11 p.m. you know yeah that's at the later end of that possible sighting of her but if she
is there at that time how was she planning on getting back home to Sandy mal if in fact she
intended to go there right and I did see our friend Jessica pointed out that somebody on reddit so take this with a
grain of salt we don't know I take everything with a grain which I guys she said that somebody on reddit stated that
taxis back in 1993 in that area were very uncommon so once the buses were done it seems
like your public transportation options are nil so you're going to have to rely on somebody else to get you back home or
stay with somebody that yeah but let's break this down real quick so we know that she hits the bus roughly about 1
something that leads her to another bus around 3 something right yeah well okay so yeah so that that bus would get her
into this area about 3:30 maybe 4 o'clock yes she would have been there at 4:15 okay so roughly four o'clock and
when we get there let's just if I'm gonna go on a hike let's say it's two hours that's gonna put me in about 6:15
6:30 yeah by then I need to make my plans on if I'm going back right but if you're hanging out with some friends
right you made some other arrangements you're meeting up with the guy now you have other options and so what's
interesting is we have these sightings of Annie but in this crucial time like you said where you're gonna have to make
some arrangements it seems like we have no sightings of her right and here's the
other thing that you have to consider in this thought if she made plans with other people or another person that we
are just unaware of right we're unaware of that person because they chose not to
come forward and tell us hey I hung out with Annie that evening that means that person did something is responsible or
knows what happened to her yeah so here's some other things that that I think we should consider as well
and this is where it makes it even more confusing regarding the the whole Johnny
Fox possible sighting it was later discovered that there was another American woman there at Johnny Fox's
that night that Friday night who actually resembled Annie and was dressed in a similar manner okay apparently this
other woman really confused things in the course of the guard E's investigation because it was unclear
which you know which sightings were of this other woman in which sightings were that of Annie so much in so much so that
in fact the guard II tracked down this other woman and asked her not to wear certain types of clothing because when
she when she did they kept getting phone calls saying hey I spotted Annie at this
place I spotted it I saw Annie the missing woman at this place right we're gonna need you to only wear bikini tops
from now on yeah and it turned out to be you know turned out to be her now didn't
I right but here's what we know for certain this this lady went to that bar there's eyewitnesses of the that girl
being at that bar they tracked her down she's alive and I'm gonna tell you that to me this this sighting doesn't mean
anything later but we'll have to get there well what what I have in my notes here is that the woman as you said they
spoke with her she says that she she was not the woman in line that got paid for
the cover charge got paid for by some man that she didn't know right she says I was there with my mother mm-hmm so and
she would have remembered hey this guy paid for me right like so I think that clears up
that there was another American girl in that bar somebody paid for her way and not this lady according to a 2009 teen
article appearing in university express entitled Ireland's vanishing triangle unanswered anemic Eric this alleged
sighting the Johnny Fox one that we've really gone round around about is now strongly believed not to have been Annie
at all but just as you stated some other American person likely a tourist other sources are certain that the bouncer saw
Annie that night but truly what I think we can agree on here captain the upshot here is we don't know for certain
whether it was Annie or not it sounds like both you and I are leaning toward that it was not you know that's not my
that's not what I think oh I'm sorry no I was saying it's a possibility though that's weird that they're they're
making claims that they don't think it's her you know the only other claim we have other claims of people in the bar
that say that they possibly saw her it could have been the other girl that looked like her but we have another like
you're saying the stamps was within that vicinity as well yes much earlier but but about three and a half four miles
away right but again it's maybe fifteen minutes to walk a mile right so now one thing we do need to state here and our
regular listeners will not be happy to hear this at all this is according to Irish Times to an
Irish Times article about Annie's disappearance she was known to hitchhike around Dublin even at night and even by
herself apparently many young people at the time considered this a valid form of
transportation that it was safe to do this in this area we did mention how safe Ireland
is and this area specifically so yeah it's so safe that we have a triangle of missing women right right so safe so is
it possible that then it was Annie at the pub and maybe she planned to hitchhike her way back to the apartment
complex after the pub closed or after that going to that show and when she did something bad happened or as we said
perhaps she met up with someone or perhaps she hit it off with the man who paid for her in line and then things
went bad yeah but there also a lot of people at the bar believe that not only did this man pay
for her to get in but that they set together and he actually bought her drinks all night now if that's true and
a lot of people believe that if it was Annie in the bar that she would have had to be there with somebody paying for
things because she didn't have the kind of money that she could go to this is a this is not just a normal pub there this
is a tourist hotspot so what do they do with the prices they jack him up my friend right they jack him up top dollar
yeah that's what she said Jack him up but so a lot of her friends a lot of people speculate if she was in the bar
that she would had to be with somebody that would be paying for the drinks and to me that's more likely that she'd be
getting a ride back to their place or they would or they told her I'll give you a ride back or whatever it would be
but it's also like I said it's not extremely far away it's not like she's 50 miles from home a hundred miles from
home she's within 20 miles from our house yeah and again that leads us to the other problematic portion of the
story if in fact she did meet up with this man this man in his 20s who it sounds like
the bouncer has reason to believe that this man didn't did not know Annie prior to offering to pay for the two of them
to get in we've already mentioned her picture on the news we've already mentioned that this was actually a
really big invent negation over there at this time part of that is because it's an American woman
in another country missing part of that is we have a lot of missing girls now on
top of that we have a missing American well she's the first in she's the first in the series so these other ones
haven't occurred yet all of them and won't rain on my parade we'll get into that in tomorrow's
episode but what I want to point out here again we have another situation where we talked about earlier if she's
meeting up with somebody that knew her that was supposed to be her friend and they've never come forward that's highly
suspicious same situation here if she sat and spoke with this man hung out with him that night long enough for him
to get to know her and he's never come forward then you have to be highly suspicious that's why identified young
man that was at hunting foxes that's why I believe the bar of the bouncer sorry the bouncer assumed that these two were
together the actions and with age I'm looking for money all don't worry about it I got it
again if it was just somebody that you just bumped into a line and you heard about this girl going missing inland I
paid for her way to get into that pub make her a phone call to the police all by the way how was the man that paid for
that lady's way to get into the pub I don't know her I was there with another group of friends we didn't even sit with
her or maybe we did sit with her but we don't know what happened to her because we never saw her leave you I mean if it
was purely innocent where the person didn't know this girl then why wouldn't they come forward and just say oh yeah
we saw her at the bar I paid for a way to get in and I would say I don't know her but so to me if this girl was Annie
she was there at a bar with somebody that she knew what we do know that happened is the following day on
Saturday Annie did not show up for her shift she had a morning shift at work she does not arrive to this this is
completely out of character for her there's like a part day shift yeah then she's gonna have her friends
come over friends come over and she's not there mm-hmm yeah so no one I guess really raised the alarm when she didn't
show up for work it sounds like the alarm bells start going off that Saturday evening when Hilary and Rita
the two friends showed up at the flat at Annie's flat and 8:00 p.m. this is for their planned dinner party they say no
one answered the door after repeated knocking the pair eventually decided hey let's go to this pub sit down for a
little bit maybe she's running late or whatever's going on and she's not home yet we'll kill about a half an hour they
try to they try to swords yeah sorry about that they go to the pub and then about a half hour later they return to
Annie's flat they're knocking again knocking again still receiving no response eventually they went home yeah
probably a little confused a little upset they had only expecting a dinner right right they decided to try to call
the flat to try to call Annie but apparently I guess they realized they did not have the number so they called
Nancy Annie's mother who was at home just to get the number say hey we're trying to get ahold of Annie we realized
we don't have her phone number right they told Nancy that Annie wasn't home for their planned dinner date but Nancy
too did not really make much of this cause she got stuck at work there could have been an emergency that should just
end lane bei know about yet no no need to panic after a couple hours correct meanwhile Annie's roommates they
returned Sunday evening and found that Annie had never unpacked her Quinn's worth bag of groceries that she had
bought she made these purchases on Friday it was it was sitting just inside the front door with things like meat
cream and butter inside things that should have been refrigerated it was later confirmed that the bag
contained everything Annie purchased at the grocery store that Friday they also found wet laundry this is
Annie's clothing wet laundry in the communal washing machine for the apartment complex this is where it's so
confusing for me first it seems like that time where you got friends coming over the next day mm-hmm yo you went and
did a little errand maybe got money from the bank maybe switched your account then you get a little food from the
grocery store now you got to come back you're doing a bunch at once gonna do a little cleaning got to put the groceries
away I got to do a load of laundry but normally you don't those things you finish at least you get the the clothes
from the washer into the dryer you at least put the food into the refrigerator it seems like all that got stopped and
it's so strange to me that people just assume that all those things got stopped and then she jumped on a bus and went
for a hike yeah that's what's troubling here and they also found a pie on the counter you know we said Annie was
making some pies and some baked goods for cafe Java then she was going to drop off on Friday remember that's the day in
question there's a pie on the counter so this is what the roommates find when they get home Sunday evening and
eventually they hear from Hilary the friend that was supposed to come over Saturday evening right they called the
flat he calls the flat speaks with the two roommates who have now returned and says look yeah she wasn't home when we
tried to go there yesterday for our scheduled birthday dinner party and now the roommates and the friends over the
phone are starting to put some things together and say hey this doesn't seem right here something here just does not
feel right so Hilary the friend calls up Nancy mckarrick Annie's mother right closer again and
remember she wasn't worried the first time but now by this point she Annie could have been missing for 72 hours
yeah but it didn't show for work or for her own dinner party right but if I go over to my buddy's house and I open up
the washer and there's a load of clothes in it no big deal people do that all the
time but if I walk into somebody's house and there's bags of groceries maybe just
a couple of them but has maybe milk or me or whatever something that could go bad I'm going there there's an issue
here to me that's a big red flag that's right [Music] alright thanks for joining us here in
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Brief Summary

Annie McCarrick vanished in 1993, sparking an investigation into her mysterious disappearance in Ireland's vanishing triangle.

Key points

Welcome to True Crime Garage. Join hosts Nick and the Captain as they dive into true crime stories.
The Vanishing Triangle. Exploring the mysterious disappearances of women in Ireland during the 90s.
Annie McCarrick's Background. Annie, a vibrant young woman, moved to Ireland and fell in love with its culture.
Eyewitness Accounts. Eyewitnesses claim to have seen Annie at various locations, but their reliability is debated.
The Pub Sighting. Annie was reportedly seen at Johnny Fox's pub, but details are murky.
The Confusing Sightings. The investigation is muddled by another woman's resemblance to Annie.

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The nature of these disappearances are so unexplained and random.

Describing the mysterious circumstances surrounding the vanishing triangle.

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