William Tyrrell /// Off The Record | Forensic Files

[music] [music] Sriracha. [music] What a great name for a sauce. Sriracha. >> That was the I don't remember what year,
but it was Bonapetit's number one condiment. Bonapati >> per like >> Sriracha. >> I don't know. Maybe they they pulled
like a a hundred chefs or something like that, but or restaurants. >> Mhm. >> I don't know. But it was it was
interesting to see that that was the number one condiment one year because so many people were cooking with it in all
kinds of different ways. >> I heard it's good on eggs. >> Well, I mean, it really just depends on
how much you like Sriracha. I mean [laughter] because I've seen people put it on just
about anything and I know I went through a little phase Sriracha phase where I was quite addicted to it and it went on
it started replacing all hot sauces for me for a long time and then it then I was putting it on like you said eggs it
was going on breakfast foods lunch dinner it didn't take much to >> Sriracha >> you know what I used to love to do
>> say Sriracha >> no I take one part Sriracha, one part ketchup. Mix them together and then I
used to put that on my meatloaf. >> That was my >> Sriracha meatloaf. >> That was my That was my meatloaf
condiment. >> Um, so William Terrell Terrell, how were we saying that back then? Do you know
William Terrell? Let's go with that. >> Terrell. >> So he is the little missing boy in
Australia. He disappeared without a trace in 2014. Anybody that's been listening to the
show for a long time will know he's the cute little boy that was in the Spider-Man outfit there, like Spider-Man
pajamas. And sadly, that picture is was literally taken minutes before he disappeared. He's he's out playing on
the patio or back deck area at his grandmother's home. Now, it is his foster grandmother's house.
>> Yeah, this is the one in New South Wales. So the the family, the foster parents, husband and wife, they went
there to visit the wife's mother because she is um getting up there in years and
she wanted to sell her place. Now, she had a fantastic home, beautiful home in a in a highly desired area,
>> and I guess the either both of the foster parents or at least one of them was quite involved in real estate uh for
their career. And so, the idea is let's go out. This is a good excuse to visit grandma. Let uh let the kids play out in
her big yard and have a good time at her house. Visit with grandom. and also let's give her some education on what to
expect when selling her house, where she should go after that. It's given her some uh you know, real estate knowledge
on that end. Unfortunately, the boy who was just I guess he was three at the time.
>> Yeah, he was three years old. >> Disappears. And we covered we covered it in two episodes and they're now there's
people now calling William Terrell's case like the >> September 12th. So >> the Maline McCann case of Australia
>> and you said oh he disappeared on September 12th 2014. So we're actually coming up on the 5year
>> anniversary sad anniversary. But there is some action in the investigation. Um, which I've been I've been following
in the news best I can. And it's it's interesting because I feel like there's little tidbit bits of nuggets of
knowledge that are coming out, but there's also some things in there that I feel like I'm I have to read between the
lines a little bit and kind of come up with my own conclusions. So, so some of what I have in my notes here, just to
just a little buyer beware so we all know some of these things in my notes are of my own conclusion, my own
speculation here. But when we reported on this, there was a task force, a uh that was put together to review this
case, to really not just review the case, but to lead the charge and lead the investigation all the way and see it
through. because this was one of those weird cases where you have a small child who disappears and then it very quickly
becomes a very big large investigation and part of that is because of the area where he went missing. It's very hard to
search. Uh there's a lot of land to cover there and then on top of that we have a few different suspicions going
on. We have the foster parents who came under suspicion. We have the birth parents who came under suspicion and
then we also have some type of kidnapping or maybe even possibly a pedophile ring. There were some strange
vehicles that were seen in the neighborhood that day before the boy went missing and this was reported by a
few different people. um what has taken place in the last 6 months or so of this
investigation. Really, they've been following a lot of things for years and really been working this
case pretty hard for many years. The problem is the case seems to have gone cold and now that it has gone cold, we
have the task force that is saying, "All right, we're we are going to transfer this case to another agency." Basically,
I'm going to give you the kind of the nuts and bolts of this thing rather than the whole whole rundown. So, what
they're doing now is like a coroner's in inquest. So, the the task force, while they will provide answers and provide
backing and help to the coroner's inquest, it's now this different investigation that has basically taken
over. And from the way that I understand this whole thing to be working, it seems
to be similar in a sense to not 100% like a grand jury here, but somewhere along the lines of that, what
I mean by that is what they have the ability to do in these procedures is to force someone to come forward and do an
interview and be be interviewed and subjected to a certain line of questioning and then all that those that
questioning goes on the record. So, it's if you change your story later, we will
know and and we're going to follow up on your statements that go on the record, you know, and and you can see how that
that could carry out. What's been interesting is I think this started in March of just this year and then they
took a break for a while and then they recommenced in August, just last month. So, what it seems to me like what has
been going on with this case so far is they've they've really interviewed really well both the the birth parents
and the foster parents. And they're also somewhat releasing details that that I don't know that we
had access to before. And it's just small little nuggets of stuff, but it but they're interesting
ones, you know. So they interviewed the grandmother who was hosting them at the time of his disappearance.
>> Yeah. >> And she's now 85. And look, when when this case really first took off, they were really
focusing on the idea that the boy may have got lost because there was certainly room and there's forest and
there's woods and there's all kinds of things. The boy could have simply got lost.
That to me at the time seemed like maybe one of the bigger suspicions in the case. It sounds like after years of
investigation and now that we have this different type of inquest going on, it sounds to me like the investigation
angle now is that the boy was taken, that they think that he was abducted. And they've interviewed the the foster
parents and the the birth parents quite extensively, I believe. And it seems like those two
sets of couples are no longer so much so in, you know, under suspicion at this point. It what what has come out is
there's been detailed information about the foster fathers movements that day that that is really minute-by-minute
stuff. as far and on top of that, we have neighbors who have been interviewed by this inquest that were saying
the parents, the foster parents, once they knew the boy was missing, they all appeared to be doing exactly what you
would think they would should be doing, >> right? what what what you would anticipate a frightened parent, a scared
parent doing in a situation where their child is missing. And they even had, you
know, neighbors coming forward and coming out saying the the the foster father seemed to
be in hysterics of of I mean, just like looking everywhere you could possibly think of for this little boy. And and
then on top of that, you have um you know, they they released a statement by the grandmother
from her interviews where they you know, she's asked could anybody have taken the
boy for any reason at all. And she said something like she was suspicious of one
of her neighbors. And now this is this is not an individual that has come under any suspicion at all, but she was
suspicious of of this neighbor at the time because they kept an odd schedule and they lived alone for a very long
period of time and likely somebody that's just may just be a misunderstood individual. But I'm really curious to
see where this is going to lead. I'm actually I've been I've been following this
because I think they're making some headway in in a weird way. And now, mind you, this could be all stuff that they
already knew behind the scenes with the first set of investigators with the with
the first task force, >> right? >> And and now it's just coming to light. But for me anyway, as somebody that that
that looked at the case for weeks and for you, Captain, what it what it's done for me is that I'm a little more it's
added clarity to a situation where before I thought that there were several different possible outcomes
to where now I I feel like the the inquest in my mind's eye are kind of sharing the
same viewpoint where it it feels more now like that is the proper for route of investigation that the boy may have been
abducted. And what does that what does that mean? You know what I mean? We we know that we talked about suspicious
cars and weird cars in the area at the time. Or was it something just as simple as somebody as uh somebody that's very
local that that was involved? But I I think it's a little bit telling in the sense that
I think if there were strong suspicions by law enforcement of the foster parents
or of the birth parents because remember one of the thoughts was the birth parents didn't want to give up their
boy. He was he was basically plucked away from them and and and after reviewing their situation rightfully so,
but he's plucked away from them. And the idea was at first, did the the birth parents, did they go and take their boy
back, >> right? >> Did they go and take their boy back? Now, remember, their home was searched
uh very quickly after the boy disappeared and they were also hours away uh drive time anyway.
So again though for me where where the suspicion of could the boy have been lost? Was he abducted? Was this
something that was done by either set of parents or was the grandmother covering up for
the foster mom? Anything like that. I mean I still have little suspicions but now that I see that the direction that
this thing has taken I I almost feel like that that seems to be there must be something there. Not so much so that
they have proof that the boy was abducted. I think what they probably very likely
have is zero proof that the other outcomes took place. >> Well, and now you're also having the
initial investigator. He's coming out saying that he has his thoughts and as they're going through this process, he's
going to try to respect this process so they can get more information. Um but it
looks like um you know he really views his in his in inability to solve this case as a
personal failure. Um he retired from the police force last month after he was charged with
illegally recording four conversations during the investigation. So, >> but he's not stating that he has like
he's not stating like we can't solve this because so and so is is stopping us. So and so is is is really putting a
halt to our investigation. >> Yeah. I'm trying to find out the the actual link to this. It was written by Ben
Graham and you can find him at Ben Graham It's >> well and the Australian Associated
Press, which obviously goes out to multiple publications and uh you know, newspapers, online articles, and so on
and so forth. They're they're a good one to to Google when you're when you want to look for these updates because you're
going to kind of find everything. Yeah. Um, >> basically he's saying that he has an
idea of who he thinks is responsible, >> but but again that's the same idea of abduction,
>> right? Yes. Yes. So, like you said, I think the important thing about >> the progress that we're making
>> is you're taking off certain rabbit holes that you don't need to jump down anymore because they're saying we're
we're funneling this. So, we've kind of talked about that before. your case becomes you just keep you have all this
speculation, you have this evidence and you start funneling it and then eventually the the picture will become
more clear and as we were able to put blinders on and focus more in depth on on what really happened.
>> Well, and that's why that's why I say I feel this move is a big positive for this
case. Look, it's not going to be the outcome that we want. This is not the outcome that anybody wants, but at least
maybe it can get solved. Maybe we get the answers of what actually happened, where the boy is, and who is responsible
for what took place. So, it you know, and and you and I have said this on mic, off mic a hundred times. If you can't if
you can't look at a picture and go, "This is what happened. Now, now how do we make an arrest? How do we get this
straightened out? Then you go, okay, you have 10 different possibilities. In this
case, probably more like five or six that were really more prominent than the others. And you say, okay, if we can't
if we can't draw a circle around what happened, maybe we can put X's over top of what didn't happen and through the
process of elimination lead us to to what what we should be really pursuing. >> [music]
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Brief Summary

The episode covers the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of William Terrell in Australia and recent developments in the case.

Key points

The Sriracha Craze. Sriracha became Bon Appetit's number one condiment, loved by chefs and home cooks alike.
The Disappearance of William Terrell. William Terrell, a three-year-old boy, vanished without a trace in Australia in 2014.
New Developments in the Case. Investigators are now focusing on the possibility that William was abducted, not lost.

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