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So, they say like oh, so sorry, we got that part wrong, but everything else is still right. Okay, what is everything
else though? >> Also, plot twist, Lenny didn't even have his boat when Joan went missing.
What do you mean he didn't have his boat? >> And this is what I'm saying like before
So, they were like disregarding the stuff before Joan's even found. He told investigators this early on. He said
that the rudder was broken and it had sank. He even filed an insurance claim like he was known to do for it. And
court records for a federal bankruptcy trial show that the judge in the case believed that the boat was sunk by
August of 1981. This is months before Joan went missing. But, like was it actually though? Because insurance
claims on cars and boats and things like that was kind of his his racket with Candy, right?
>> Yeah, but when they recovered his boat like it it the story lined up. The rudder was broken just like he said and
it was found right where he said it would be. And either way, we know nothing is actually found on the boat.
Like it's Like finding the boat is like okay, cool. It's just even matter because now everyone agrees that he
didn't kill her on the boat. So, they say like oh, so sorry, we got that part wrong, but everything else is still
right. Okay, what is everything else though? >> No one can really say for sure, but Bert
continues to publicly insist that Lenny is responsible for Joan's murder even though he's never been charged.

Once suggested, Joan Webster may have been killed on Leonard “Lenny” Paradiso’s boat — but records show the boat may have sunk months before she disappeared.

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Brief Summary

Lenny's boat was sunk before Joan's disappearance, raising questions about his involvement in her murder.

Key points

Lenny's Alibi Unraveled. Lenny didn't even have his boat when Joan went missing, raising questions about his involvement.
Bert's Accusation. Bert insists Lenny is responsible for Joan's murder despite no charges being filed.

Episode quotes

What do you mean he didn't have his boat?

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