Vampire Talk with Doug Jones | Morbid | Podcast | Forensic Files

hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and I'm Doug Jones and we have a very special episode of morbid
[Music] today woo Doug Jones is here guys weirdos we I mean Doug Jones is an absolute icon to be perfectly honest and
also we can we can also say that he is the nicest monster in Hollywood 100% we have had to re reschedule this pod twice
because of just various shenanigans that occurred nicest man ever like truly if it was going to happen with everyone
anyone I'm glad it happened with Doug so thank you for being so patient with us oh and you me I I love guys no we love
you so Doug has breathed life into roles of like the Fawn and The Pale Man and Pan's Labyrinth those are two of my
favorites like alltime favorites so good the amphibian man in the academy award-winning film the shape of water
his resume includes the roles of Billy butcherson iconic from Hocus Pocus Baron alanos on what we do in the shadows as
well as the titular role in David Lee Fisher's upcoming film no Fatu a symphony of hor and we are just so
excited to have him on the Pod today so again thank you so much for joining us oh thank you and I can't live up to that
introduction I think we're done here you already have You' already every day thank you so your like like we just
said your resume is mighty like one of the mightiest we have to ask how are you able to do all that to be all that to
personify all that and still keep your feet on the ground and truly be the nicest monster in Hollywood oh well
thank you for thinking of me in that manner I I don't deserve it I love you for that you do um I uh you know it's
funny my resume is is long not because I'm really that good it's just because I'm that old I've been around a while
you know um so I I've been I my career has happened because of the graciousness and kindness of the creature effects
makeup people honestly uh if it wasn't for their referrals early on uh that propelled me to the next project and the
next one and the next one I never would have met the you know the wonderful Rolodex of directors I have now worked
with including the ever great GMA do Toro it's because of of those early days being you know when you come to
Hollywood land and you're a tall skinny goofy uh actor boy 63 135 pounds and you
have a background as a mime and you can also put your legs behind your head so your resume says Contour iist on it
there you go so that was like my my first commercial agent's dream it's like okay we can do so much with this so yeah
so they they submitted me for all kinds of things that were physical Tom Foolery
and clowning and miming of course uh and a lot of those roles that came with that
kind of breakdown also came with a look that needed to be glued on to me so uh those early commercials that I did the
very first commercial I ever did was for Southwest Airlines as a dancing mummy I
love it right an airline I'll never remember but uh but um I I think the fairs had dropped low enough that I
could finally come out of my sarcophagus and go on vacation I think that's how it
worked um and then shortly after that I booked a commercial for a a world of Wonder toys for a doll commercial and I
was an alien landing in a kid's backyard and I I thought I was making first Contact because the doll was left out
and it was a talking doll that you know you push it on the belly it's like that tickles whatever so so it was like a
funny little oh we first Contact but it was a yeah uh that creature effects makeup designer that made those alien
outfits for that commercial then also was doing the the moon head for the Mac Tonight campaign for McDonald's I
remember this so vividly right well it set to the theme song uh taken from uh uh Mac the knife but re but re re
rebranded for McDonald's as Mac tonight I love it it's Mac Tonight hey yeah so I
ended up booking that job as the Crescent moonhead guy under this huge heavy mask also created by Steve Neil So I was
already getting a taste of ah the creature effects world is tight and um almost incestuous and you know and they
they like they're very loyal so if they like working with you so the reputation got around town that I'm tall skinny
move well and don't complain when there's a lot of stuff on me you're lovely to work with so I guess that's
the reputation that got around the creature effect you so so the referrals happened and snowballed from there and
here we are 38 years later uh and um and with a resume that I never foresaw and I
never I never sought like I want to be monsters I I really wanted to be a sitcom star when I started I wanted to
be like a goofy nextdoor neighbor that comes you know like on the Dick Van Dyk show I love that or being Kramer on on
on the Seinfeld you know the guy who comes in and does something funny and leaves you know that's I had very low
aspirations for myself you surpassed all of them very much thank you so getting swept up by
the creature effects world was a surprise to me uh but a happy one that turned that has turned into a career
that that has been very very good to me and um and know and you know when you mention G like the likes of G mod deloro
when you are standing on the stage at the Academy Awards uh because a movie you were in
called the shape of water just W best picture and you're there with the entire team accepting the award for best
picture uh and and it's a it's a Academy best picture with a monster on the cover
this doesn't happen yeah it really does and you happen to be the guy who played that monster it's surreal moment you can
imagine I was gonna say how does your brain wrap around that like just being on the Academy Award stage must be like
what well you're looking you're looking out a sea of the most famous faces you've ever seen in your life and
they're all looking back at you with adoration in their eyes it's like this this moment doesn't happen to just any
you that's a pinch me moment for sure totally totally I like the aliens should abduct Me now this is
insane right that's a good time to die happy right truly you're like I'm I'm good and it's funny that you brought up
the Mac Tonight character because one I vividly remember those those commercials
so that's so funny but also our re Searcher for morbid yeah our friend Dave his father Jim White actually directed A
lot of those commercials so we had like this weird one degree of separation what
are the chances isn't that weird yeah it's like awesome yes and I remember us talking about this like a long time ago
when when he brought up like oh my dad directed those things we're like oh my God I used I used to love those
commercials and then we found out you were ma tonight we were like what well if you can get a message back to him
that I love him dearly to this day oh of course we definitely will I love that thank you a and we spoke about gyo Del
Toro and I have to ask because I'm a huge gyo Del Toro fan I think he is so brilliant and he seems like just one of
he's one of those people that he seems like one of the sweetest kindest just like genuine person what is it is he
that person what is it like to work with him yes he will they say don't meet your
Heroes but he is one you would absolutely love to meet because he will live up to all of your all of your
dreams and expectations of who he is love that I can you can imagine how often I get asked what's it like to work
with camer Little Tor you got to cuz you're you're not alone in in that love for him I I hear I hear such love for
him everywhere I go and when you work with him you are you're doing two things you are under the tutelage of one of the
most Visionary brilliant artists in the world ever you're also hanging out with like a funny friend who is the
self-effacing hilarious and uh sassy as can be so he's right I love that he's sassy oh no he's he's
got the best sense of humor uh and in fact he's a director that understands his actors better than any any director
normally does he uh he directs all of us on the same project in different ways depending on our personality and what
we'll respond to because he's already sused all that out wow that's he's he's brilliant with with the human Spirit and
the and psychology and all of it so with with the set of buttons on us that he now knows what to push to get a what
reaction out of us on the day day he'll direct like so from the hellway movies Ron Pearlman Selma Blair and Doug Jones
very different personalities so we all got different types of direction from him oh that's like brilliant now with me
it's very simple he knows if he can make me laugh I'll do whatever whatever he says so one of my favorite examples was
from Hellboy 2 the Golden Army there was one long tracking shot that he wasn't going to cut away to anything he had no
coverage to cut away to so I had to I had to do a lot of physical business uh while this one camera circled me and
I had to be done with the business by the time the camera stopped well I wasn't uh this the first take of this
it's like I was going slow and methodical and like milking these moments visually and by the time the
camera stopped and just stayed there for a while and I wasn't done yet finally Goro he finally he yells cut doggy
you're boring me to tears right and that's all he had to say and I was like got it got it
I'll go I'll go in a different direction I heard you take take two worked and yeah yeah I I just I love him
dearly we do have a short hand like that oh I love that that makes me so happy because it truly is one of those things
that if you hear that all the time don't beet Your Heroes and I'm like not GMO you can meeto there you go meet GMO
GMO GMO I love it but so one of the big things that's happening right now is that we are in the final season of what
we do in the sh Shadows yeahwe right it starts on the 21st and you obviously play Baron alanos amazing
character so good you are like what is it has it been emotional to say goodbye to that character in the
show yes by the way the baron loves you very much too my darling don't worry about it amazing playing Baron FS has
been the joy of My Life um you know after this 38-year career of mine or you know that I behind that I have behind me
with more more coming ahead of course but looking back it's like uh I I have I've looked forward to going to work a
very handful of times over all of the jobs that I've done because I know that a lot of them are very physically taxing
and I know it's ahead of me and I'm going to have to go through the process I'm the thing I'm the thing right or I
have a ton of like science fiction dialogue that I have to blurred out in a monologue with Technic talking it and uh
I love them but dread them at the same time if you that makes any sense yeah def what we do in the shadows oh my gosh
I look forward to it with like I can't wait to get there you know I love that because when you're doing something
that's all for the funny and you are taking vampire tropes and sending them up and like you know and just like
mocking all of it the best uh you know in this age of Comedy that we're in now everyone's being so careful to not
offend well our show does nothing but offend everybody you know makes it great and it's got an old school vibe to it
because love an equal opportunity to offender absolutely let's let's just make fun of
everybody and we're all care nobody's left out and everybody can be offended together exactly right and
what the what the baron has also afforded me was uh you know when I um I've always had a love of vampires
they've always intrigued me and I've wanted to play uh you know a classic vampire uh so years ago if you would
asked me what's my dream role it would have been what we're going to talk about next would be no Fatu right of course um
you know the dark mystery of him and the the the the horrific look of him yes well when I was offered the role as
Baron apanas and what we do in the shadows he kind of was a parody of NOS Fatu in a way he's he's he's the the
vampire that comes from the old world and he he's he sent all of his minions out to North America to conquer the new
world and they never made it out of Stanton Island so he kind of stays there with them now like whatever right so
we'll just do that no I just uh I I love the the uh that now that I've done the no Fatu a symphony of horror movie and
what we do in the shadows I've had both the light and the dark of this of this type of vampire character I that's my
favorite part is that you've touched both sides of the spectrum on the vampire scale and so perfectly so good
so and speaking of like just I was just thinking about like how you were saying like some days you would be like oh God
I have to go in and like you know I'd have to like spew out all this dialogue that's crazy or I have to go in the
makeup chair how do you do anything specific cuz I know you probably had to sit in that makeup chair for a lot of
these roles for a long time do you have to do anything specific to like get yourself in a vibe to be able to do that
well here's the weird thing about me is that I don't need to do anything specific um unlike most people I don't
get antsy I don't get stir crazy I can sit still and stare at a wall for hours and be completely entertained wow what
is that like I I know amazing because that's the number one question I get from people is like I would go crazy if
I had just sit still for that long and it's like nope that's the easy part of my day the makeup artists are doing all
the work during that time and I get to just kind of sit there and go over my dialogue if I need to or we listen to
music or we tell jokes or whatever right it's a great time of day uh it's but it's when now now that it's on and you
you have extra heat weight stickiness to your person and you have to perform in it all day and keep your energy up while
wearing extra layers of stuff and um and trying to not not stick to your chair when you when you're taking a break or
whatever it is right um that's that's the long part of the day for me honestly I can imagine yeah yeah because I that
would destroy me I'm so heat sensitive that I feel like as soon as I started sweating I'd be like get it off I know
no I delineate between uh suits and makeups a monster suit would be something that you slip into zip up the
back right and it might involve a head that's that go slips over your head snaps down to the neck and then you
there's mechanics that are puppeteered in the face right that's a suit makeup would be either glued or painted onto my
real person so when you're in a suit there's nothing quite like that feeling of now it goes on much faster
you're maybe 30 minutes into the whole thing and and you're ready to perform but once it's on it is they're usually
very heavy and very hot and you feel that trickle of sweat going down the back of your neck and you can't get to
it or you feel that trickle of sweat coming down the side of your face is it going
to hit my eye I don't know is it going to go ah it's on the cheekbone now I guess now yeah cuz salty sweat in the
eye you don't want to do that while you're on camera not great not ideal I give you credit truly I think the
heaviest thing I've ever worn is my wedding dress and even not at the end of the night I was like get this off of me
serious well you know people who just wear wigs on camera are it's it's it's an itchy mess and they love I totally
get it yeah oh yeah wearing a wig for Halloween I'm like why did I choose to do this like awful you end up ripping it
off like at the end of the night like right right right yeah well going back to our love of vampires your love
and our love we are so excited like completely stoked for the premiere of David Lea Fisher NS veratu a symphony of
horror that is premiering on October 18th on Apple TV plus so everybody go check it out but this is a very
different approach to remaking a classic film it's shot in black and white it's so hauntingly beautiful wege we got to
get a little sneak peek thank you for the screener it is delicious looking it's beautiful so can you tell us a
little bit do you know anything about like how they really created the film yeah yeah um thank you for setting that
up so beautifully by the way uh because uh it's a very confusing time for the title NOS Fatu because there is another
one right on our tale coming out Christmas directed by the the wonderful Robert Edgars and starring the brilliant
bill scars guard in the same role I'm playing now he might be younger hotter and more famous than me but I think we
can have both can't we absolutely we all walk we do right and I'm gonna watch theirs with with every bit of Glee as
I'm watching on my own um ours though what makes ours a little bit different is it seen for seen the same movie as
the silent film that made it a classic in the first place so uh I got to get into not only Max Shrek's role but I
also was in his environment digitally reproduced from the original film that's so D le Fisher our director is a a
technical wizard who made this all magic happen so it might be something as much
as me when I was out let's say when no was outside walking around with his coffin under one arm that would be a
complete 100% green screen set with marks on the floor to match exactly where I needed to turn stop walk up
steps whatever right that we would match then and with the laate in uh uh frame from the old movie then the least amount
of green screen used might be uh Ellen's bedroom when I finally get into her and
I'm finally you know reaching the the the the Pinnacle the the object of my desire she's the she's the the dessert
of all the meals I've had over over my vampire years her her bedroom scene was walls built furniture in the room and
the window though was green behind it so that they could put in the original movie uh window behind that that's
amazing there was a green screen element to every scene of the movie yeah and so
that does bring old and new together with a very ethereal kind of dream like yes feel to it right um but also ours
and that's why we filmed ours in black and white so that we could match the old movie more
seamlessly and um and also with dialogue and sound that fleshes out that silent film story it is seen for seen the same
story but now with dialogue you get to hear more of it yes right right yeah and it really does have that ethereal
quality to it it's like it's almost like I don't even know if this is the right one it feels like Gauzy when you watch
it like it it's just like pretty ve word that is you know like I don't know why it just feels Gauzy I love she's a
novelist it makes sense yeah it makes perfect sense yeah well you mentioned before that you this is a role you hoped
you would Play Someday so how was it playing this role was it completely surreal yes yes yes uh he had been my
bucket list character for many years uh and I think I always had a a love and fascination with vampires anyway and of
course I loved b legosi as Dracula and of course uh all the other Draculas over the years that have been played by
various act wonderful actors but there there there's a certain sexiness about Dracula that I thought I don't know that
Doug Jones can pull that off I think you you totally well bless you bless you for
but then there's also the the teenager sparkly ones from that other franchise that I'm like H I'm never going to fit
that demographic so that's okay that's that's really fun right so but the bucktooth pointy eared scraggly one yes
him I get ding ding yeah yeah so know but what I also love about his hideous look is that he's probably not aware
that he looks that bad now uh he was a he a count right so he was he's of nobility in his younger day when he was
a human he probably was quite fetching you know abolutely and he right and he probably was respected by the community
and all kind and who knows what story got him what decisions he made what what position he put himself in to become a
vampire and now decades you know you know centuries later who knows how old he is uh he's living with his choice
right yeah and is he is he ever satisfied did is this a satisfying lifestyle for him so that's why what I
loved about him was his was his yearning for Ellen uh the the character that uh that I'm after in the movie by the way
Ellen was played by Sarah Carter Sarah Carter and I starred together a series regulars on Falling Skies about 10 years
ago it's because of that relationship that I said hey Sarah would you be a deer she's like oh my gosh I love this
so that's how we got her into the movie she's like Ellen okay is she not a movie
star seriously God ridiculous yeah ridic right from every angle I know I know I know I know I told truly and uh so her
husband in the movie young Thomas was played by Emar Cooper He's a series regular on Coronation Street now it's a
a very British he's from Great Britain so that his accent was legit oh love that so he's sent on this journey by his
real estate boss who goes crazy by the way his real estate bosses was the character knock played by an actor named
Edgar Allen Poe do you believe that I know should I know that name I don't know what from yeah but so
knock sends young Thomas on this journey to fetch me in Transylvania because I'm
I'm interested in buying a piece of property in their Hometown right across the street from them because something
about I I you know Ellen has been calling to me from afar and I haven't really you know known who she is yet or
what she is but I know that I I need her uh he comes to me to sign paperwork for
this real estate deal and while he's with me he's getting creeped out by all that I am what I look like and and I
love those scenes when you know we're at the dinner table and he's eating food and I'm not and and I'm just kind of
staring at him or you know I love that so much so fun right there was so much dialogue happening in those quiet silent
moments uh where he's very uncomfortable and I'm very comfortable too comtable exactly and one of my favorite moments
too was I'm about to sign the paperwork and I pause for a minute and say uh uh do you have the time and he hands me his
pocket watch in which was a photograph of Ellen his wife and that was like that was the moment that count
orlock realizes that's the object of my desire that's who I've been dreaming of that's who I've been all this time so he
rushes and signs the paperwork and now it's a done deal so what I love too about this this story is that once he
gets to the town and takes residency across the street from Ellen and Thomas he doesn't go right for her right away
he peers at her through the window like a creep of course and uh and he other people in town are dying all around them
they think there's an epidemic that's you know wiping there's some kind of a virus wiping out the city so he saves
her for dessert right and by the he gets to her uh this is this is the ultimate this is what uh right the moment his his
whole life as a vampire has been leading to this moment it's say magnumopus yeah
right and I love that David Lee Fischer left the camera on me for a long time while I am on her neck and it's very
sensual and very disgusting all at the same time beautifully horrific beautifully horrific great way great way
to say it so when then when he comes to and realizes that the Sun is is up and he's it's coming through the window he's
like he kind of overdid it he over overindulged in his addiction I think that's when he had his come to to light
moment of I I wanted to add some Humanity into him because watching the silent film of course it's very dramatic
and and you know and Max Shrek struck that pose when he got in front of the window with a hand on the heart and a
hand the window like no not the S right so I wanted to strike that that iconic pose as I tried to strike a lot of his
iconic poses throughout the film but give some some backstory meaning and some heart and soul of why he got into
that pose oh I love that so this moment in the bedroom I'm thinking wow I had my dessert I've
reached the Pinnacle of of of my desires where do I go from here is there anything left and did it really truly
satisfy me or am I just a pathetic being and do I have any reason to live beyond
this so when the sun is coming in the window he knows he's going to burn if do I take my chances and try get out of the
room and pass the window sure and if I die you know what maybe I deserve it by now I think that's kind of what the
backstory I gave him that maybe I'm not sure did or not so it translates definitely it really does no thank you
thank you so much that's very very sweet uh beautiful and wonderful and intimidating to play this role too
because there's no way to not compare me to Max Shrek and also to all the other no fatos including William def's
brilliant shadow of the vampire version and of course bill Scar Guard coming I'm
sure he's going to be delicious in whatever he does with it too definitely but yeah I could see why that would be
an intimidating Ro to take on for sure I love that you put like your own like spin on it though and that you put your
own like feelings into those poses and everything because it really does translate yeah you left your mark on NOS
forat too oh thank you so so much yeah I I I was so I was so happy that our director too was on board with like
making sure we hit all those all those those iconic notes like when uh when he's in the bowels of the ship in
transit and and the captain comes down and sees him like standing up from his coffin stiff as a board right so good
right that that took some engineering by the way we did and uh and then also the
the that famous Shadow going up the stairs on his way to Ellen's bedroom so spooky right yeah yeah yeah and then of
course like I said that the grabbing of the heart and the hand out to the sun when it's time classic I love classic
classic moment yeah it's awesome going back to the look you mentioned like does he even know that he looks like this
what was the costuming like like was it very heavy on Prosthetics how how was that for you yeah a good question um
this was as far as Prosthetics go again I've played creatures that are rubberized from head to toe this was not
that this was head and hands thank heaven uh so with a with a very specific wardrobe to match the original wardrobe
and there was a bit of a bit of a hump built into the back because he was hunched over in the original film they
we didn't I I think I probably stand a little straighter than Max Shrek did but they still did have some some extra
built built into that hump area of the back oh okay with with his long double breasted coat and um that was gorgeous
and the Prosthetics though were I I wore more Prosthetics than than the other no
ratus have that played in including Max Shrek was very smooth it was basically his face with a bald cap and you know
some ears and some funny hair swaps of hair plac just so uh I was more wrinkled and elderly looking um which was a
design uh Choice uh and here's the fun the fun back story of that look Mikael oal a a
very talented artist who owns the Creature Shop spectral motion that did the Hellboy movies with me and the
Silver Surfer movie with me and he as a as a garage project at home started sculpting a no Fatu decades ago uh on a
life cast of me my bust oh wow wow clay to me and started sculpting what he thought no Fatu might look like in his
dreams and he came up with that once once it was done uh they had prosthetic pieces made of it and just as a test fun
makeup test one day he called up and said would you ever want to put this on just for a Saturday afternoon fun photo
shoot I said yes casual it's like manifesting yeah right so we went and did that and this is again a good 10
years before this movie came up oh this is yeah so so when David Lee fiser uh who I'd worked with before for on a
movie much like this we did a we did a reimagining a re a remix of the cabinet of Dr
Caligari that 1919 silent film that we made into the same thing old movie new movie put together with dialogue sound
musical score uh so David Lee Fischer calls me up one day and says hey if you don't want to do this I won't do it but
but I have this idea would you want to ever do no Fatu like we did Caligari and I was like you have been reading my
dreams yes right so so and I said that same phone call oh my gosh I know exactly what makeup I want to wear doing
this too wow so we went back to Mike elaz Aldi and uh his design is what Mo mhart and Ben Plowman then put on Me on
the day it took about four hours a day and those four hours also included appliances on the back of my hands to
make them more bony and veiny right and also to add those those long delicious talents fingernails yes the
acrylics right right talk about Lee press on nails that was a yeah that so cool it was like you were
manifesting this 10 years in advance that's amazing yeah for real is isn't that wackadoodle I know I love it just
love it see it was meant to be yeah that's crazy it really was so speaking of all these vampire things because
vampires are so much fun and it's spooky season and NOS Fatu a symphony of horror
is coming like why not talk about a funny stinky vampire Legend really quick we thought oh okay I want to hear this
yes all right I've got a stinky vampire for you okay this case of vampirism brings us
all the way back to pench celisa a section of Poland it was the yeeld days of 1582 oh and Johan that is Yi it's
yield johannas conscious was out with one of his horses they were all trying to uh repair the horse's shoe it was him
and a couple assistants now something went wrong where the horse got upset and actually ended up kicking conscious
knocking him unconscious also I swear that's his name and not swearing right now yeah conscious went unconscious
exactly so luckily like I said he wasn't working out there alone so they picked him up they brought him inside laid him
down in bed now he slipped in and out of Consciousness in the following days but
in the moments where he was with it awake some dark dark secrets started to come out uhoh consious was very very
worried about dying because the life he led wasn't really the purest he was a well-respected
in his small community but he admitted while laying on his deathbed that his life had been full of various
sins some even claimed that he admitted to making a deal with the devil that's a
big one that's a huge one that's a big one yeah that'll send you straight to Hades life altering so The Story Goes
that the deal was made around the same time that conscious' young s uh young son excuse me disappeared and many
believe that he actually sold his son to the the devil for money which right after his son disappeared he fell into a
great sum of that's that's the biggest sin you could do I feel selling your son to the
devil that's that's a that's damning evidence too isn't it that's very damning evidence the timing is suspect
the literal receipts are there and that's that's the sin of all sins money has exchanged hands exactly right right
hands claws whatever have you whatever Happ so while he laid down dying in his bed he would call out woe is me how do I
burn and I'm all on fire and he would repeat over and over again that his sins were quote bigger than all of the world
besides and we all agree yeah and everyone said they said you sold your son to the
devil conscious what did you expect yeah that tracks yeah yeah so that uh the night that conscious actually did die he
did eventually come you know to his death the great unconscious is what he became
that was great thank you for that no problem so the night that he did die his son his
oldest son that didn't get sold to the devil was sitting in the room with him and later said that a black cat slinked
into the room jumped upon conscious' chest and started scratching at his face feverishly almost like the cat was
trying to erase him from this world the sun said and this was right before he died poetic he wasn't completely dead
yet it is yet his son said that as the cat suddenly disappeared from the room cious
breathed out his last breath oo so he he did erase him from the world he did the
cat said my job here is done yeah okay he licked his paws and left the room right yeah he said you're welcome
he said peace out you guys so the moment that cious did die a great storm was said to have started and
it raged on all throughout his funeral Henry Moore quot no sooner conscious was dead but a great Tempest arose which
raged most at his very funeral there being such impetus storms of wind and snow that it made men's bodies Quake
their teeth chatter in their heads but soon as he was interred all of a sudden it was calm damn isn't that beautiful
that is beautiful okay hen yeah so there were actually a lot of moving pieces surrounding conscious' burial his
friends and family all felt you know they had heard of his sins but they said maybe he was just you know unconscious
and talking crazy they said I really think he's a great man and he deserves to be laid to rest in a hallowed place
so they all got together and pulled their money to make sure that he was buried to the right of the church's
altar which I guess in Ye Old Days was the best place to be Primo spot Primo spot like Rockstar
parking no apparently very shortly after he was put to rest there little Splats of blood started started showing up on
the church's cloth which was right above where his grave was that's so metal and
listen to this people around town started claiming that they were seeing consious roam the streets uhoh that
would be you know well and fine like cool be a ghost be a spectre but consious wasn't just a spectre he was a
menace to the town and a straightup criminal according to ultor docomo started roaming the streets again he was
going wild his Spectre quote strangled old men galloped around the house like a horse wrestled with people this is my
personal favorite vomited fire like we said that is menacing that's menacing there's more though like
we said spotted Church's alter cloth with blood this is horrible bashed the heads of dogs against the ground oh
straight to jail straight to jail turned milk into blood e drank up supplies of milk sucked cows dry
threw goats about devoured chickens and pulled up fence posts uh oh just a few of the activities that he was up to
threw goats about and also pulled up fence post like he was like your fence whilst vomiting fire yeah yeah wow right
that was his own personal workout apparently exactly calisthetics right right so he was getting all of that you
know some of that was like not so great most of it were just like okay cous you're getting crazy this is where it
gets dark he was also getting very frisky and inappropriate with the women in town it's so like conscious it's so
consy surely surely after his death he was said to have returned to his own home which neighbors had uh seen
physically shaking in the days leading up to this incident and he supposedly just walked right into his wife's
bedroom and demanded that she move over so he could get into bed with her whoa now obviously that would be horrifying
enough but to add insult to injury this Spectre conscious had the most foul breath that this woman had ever smelled
in her life oh this poor woman poor dear poor dear loses her husband and he comes
back all stanky wanting to get into bed with hosis that's exactly worst lost her
husband who sold their son to the devil to the devil yeah she had some issues to
work out in therapy didn't she and then he'd like move over I'd be like no she she rode a horse to her therapist first
thing in the morning and said honey sit down so now she wasn't the only woman whose bed that consious was trying to
get into consious yeah many women in town were reporting seeing his Spectre appearing to them touching them without
permission and stanking up the surrounding areas he would stin he was very smelly now this went on for months
and months people were seeing and unfortunately smelling everywhere he appeared to Old Friends old enemies his
Spectre was returning to his house and scaring the [ __ ] out of the servants people were also seeing flashes of
Lights at all hours of the night coming from the house and people saw him on Horseback a few times you know he goes
for a ride every now and then an evening stroll yeah so obviously something had to be done about this am I right yeah ah
you're so right get them out of here but what were the town's people to do how do
you stop a dead man I no well they started by going to his grave and when they got there they saw all these little
holes in the ground so they said oh that must be it you know he's like oozing out
of the earth obviously so they said we'll fill these up and maybe that will put an end to things it did not and the
little holes just kept reappearing so after going back to the drawing board they decided something more had to be
done here they had to exume his body and check it out so they set out to do just
that and when his coffin was opened up somehow after 6 months of being dead as a doornail K's body was perfectly
preserved uh oh but I bet it stunk it did stink definitely but it had to stink confirm had to stink definitely it's
even said that they handed him a staff and he was able to reach out and grab it so they were like th this rocked their
worlds even more they said what are we to do here so they went they actually went to a judge and and had asked him
what they should do and he said the best thing that they could possibly do was burn C's body so they said okay all
right let's do it he's a vampir he's a vampir that's they said you're working with a vampir here you got to burn yeah
so right they tried to they tried to light him a blaze but his body wouldn't stay lit oh K just said no it's like
awful birthday candles yeah trick candles they got the idea from conscious you didn't know you know yeah if you
look on the back it actually has this Legend on the little pack does it's just more condensed that's all so they said
well we got to do something about this so they ended up cutting him into smaller pieces and when they made the
first cut they said blood spilled from him like it was still flowing freely throughout his body my goodness after
six months of death after six months of death but luckily they ended up being able to fully burn the body once it was
cut into smaller pieces and nobody ever saw or smelled conscious again damn well what a crazy tale right
that was quite a tale and then I so I have to ask so was so was this are these true accounts are these is this
fictitious what where does the story come from polish folklore at least right yes it's polish folklore and it's based
off of Henry Moore's uh version of events of this Tale that he wrote and it was basically uh something he was
writing against atheism whoa oh okay okay oh interesting he was like conscious it happened he said let me
there's actually you can read and I'll link it in the show notes you can read this Tale in much greater detail cuz
Henry Moore told us a lot about consious o oh really okay so that you gave us the
Abridged version this is The Abridged version I didn't want to keep you here I know you have other roles to get to
ducky I know it's sure I want to play conscious now I'm Sor I going to say your next roll is right
here I'll send you the link to the the detailed version and you find somebody to make that movie okay it's a deal was
I'm surprised it hasn't been made yet hly this comes from 1500 something yeah yeah just start practicing throwing
goats about and vomiting fire and taking fences up by the pegs yes just taking fences up just skip the other crappy
stuff like you know the dog beating and and the woman no I don't want to intimidating right you know milking cows
and turning them into blood or yeah maybe skip that part but you know throwing goats about is fine as long as
you're not hurting them right they can land on their hoves okay just holding their hoves and running around with them
yeah there you go yeah that's the tale of conscious man I like that W I thank you for that that
was that was a story I'd never heard before I'm so glad to tell Doug Jones a story he's never
heard great honor about a vampire about a vampire well we would end on which would seem appropriate but we do
have one little thing that we would love to end on we love to do a little short game with guests a lot because this the
these tend to be fun to hear answers so so we would like to know who out of these three characters that I'm going to
list would be most likely to do these certain things I'm going to ask okay so who out of Billy butcherson Baron alanos
and no Fatu would have compete which one would have won The Hunger Games okay okay oh not Billy I don't
think he has any powers to last very long no and the mouth so shut would be not great between Baron affinis and no
far I'm gonna say it's probably gonna be the baron the baron will have lasted longer for The Hunger Games because he
tends to show like a supernatural Powers more often right he flies he he he zaps
things with his hands and he he could could take he could take them he could take them all I think so I think so too
and he's Charming he could do the the alliance thing really well gaslighting yeah I
agree that's the perfect answer yeah so the next one is out of those three characters who would take over the world
successfully if given the chance oh poor Billy I'm gonna have to leave him out of this thing again poor
Billy bless his he might win the next one yeah yeah he probably will win the next one okay okay so uh why don't we
I'm gonna say probably let's go with NOS Fatu on this one because I think that count orlock um his subtleties and his
sneaking around the back door kind of personality might be what gets him to take over things with no one knowing
about it whereas the baron is very out there and very presentational and yeah right yeah he he does it with a flourish
and so you see it coming and he would be stopped before but the count would be more Shifty about it
good point good point I agree with that I love the thought put into this that was a good one and the last one I'm
thinking about it and it might not be bil but possibly okay who would have the biggest tick tock following
of well no honestly it is indeed Billy felt like he was gonna win but I was I didn't know if the baron could
Edge him out well the baron would love to be uh the most famous of all of them because he's very such a narcissist but
I think Billy would win because a scene that you did not that you never saw or a
moment you never saw from Hocus Pocus one that we did film but was cut from the film uh was do do you remember the
the costume dance party yes where B Miller gets the witches get up on stage and sing I Put a Spell on You iconic yes
iconic moment right well Bill my character Billy butcherson was in that scene and I I broke into the and I fit
into the costume party nobody really noticed me because everybody was done up as something and so oh look the fun
zombie right right so I'm I'm I'm uh I'm roaming about the crowd looking for the
kids and trying to you know do my deed and uh once B Miller sings you know I Put a Spell on You and then the whole
crowd gets in a trance and starts dance dance dancing until the spell is broken um uh I I'm not under the spell
but I thought was It was kind of fun for me so there was a scene where you come the action continues outside the dance
party uh but they they come back to the dance party to show everybody still dancing a couple of times oh I love that
one of those one of those coming back to the parties was going to be Billy hopping up on the stage and dancing with
once he had an audience I can be like hey I'm here here and I tell you something I threw my legs about in such
Tom Foolery i i i bounced up and down on the floor I did to see this oh my God it
was it was I that was a raging Tik Tok video before Tik Tok existed okay you are correct I think Billy would have the
dance vide that could end all all Dance videos if if he had a Tik Tok wow I think that footage needs to be released
and somebody needs to make Billy butcher a Tik Tok yes yeah come on oh I love knowing that thank you for that don't
talk about that very often so you you got you might have gotten an exclusive I love that oh dougy Jones forever yeah we
always have so much fun with you we do me too you so thank you so much for coming on today we love sitting with you
you are always welcome you are one of our most favorite most treasured guest and plug plug plug whatever you have uh
now upcoming feel free to shout it from the rooftops here well let's let's let's
go down the list we talked about of course we have we have NOS Fatu a symphony of horror coming to Apple TV
Friday the 18th of October and on Amazon Prime as well I'm also told it's on Fandango and Roku and so look for it on
whatever your device is um also uh uh October 21st starts the new season the final season of what we do in the
shadows Baron afanas does return for a few episodes you'll see me on the first night I think that they think they told
me they're gonna show three episodes on the first night so you're gonna have a lot of Shadows to to start the season up
nice um also Billy butcherson as we've talked about is in Hocus Pocus one and two all month long on the free form
Channel playing as a double feature on various nights and days and other than that uh I have I have more movies coming
I've been doing a lot of and shorts over the last year and a half playing a lot of humans exciting I'm loving this phase
uh and one of them is is a funny movie called operation Taco Garry's zany comedy right uh two
brothers are on a road trip across the country and when they get to their destination uh this cons they find
themselves in the middle of a conspiracy with an earth takeover by aliens and I might happen to be the alien trying to
pass as a human who's the leader of all this yes amazing I'm in that yeah so operation Taco gares is going to be
playing at the Austin Film Festival October 25th awesome you have an exciting October DG I know it's quite
it's quite a month quite a month yeah and and then next week I'm actually going to uh to North Carolina to film an
episode of Blue Ridge which is a this is a a turning of the page for me I'm G to
play a guy who lives in the mountains and uh and what happens with me uh is yet to be yet to be discovered but um uh
that's a show that's that's led by John Sheek if you remember him from he was the head lead singer of the wonders in
that thing you do okay and he was also he was also the young hottie in a movie with one owner writer called American
Quilt back that was kind of his breakout back in the day remember that movie yep
he he also played Houdini in a TV movie of Houdini which and he was brilliant as
as that character uh and he also played Jonah Hex in um in the DC's oh gosh which which DC show was
that I'm so bad at these yeah I know I know right right so anyway so all my scenes are with him and I can't wait to
to play that out that's this coming week I'm going to be filming that so that'll
come out on the inspiration Channel and The Cowboy Way I think when it's when when their season two finally airs oh
that sounds awesome man you are busy yes that's we're doing it we're doing it this this month all good stuff getting
after it I love it yeah seriously well thank you again yeah thank you so much and again you are welcome anytime oh
bless you all thank you so much for having me I adore you too don't ever change okay adore you you either
okay okay loving you so much oh we love you so much thank you so much bye Doug well guys we hope you keep listening and
we hope you keep it weird unfortunately you'll never be able to keep it as cool as Doug Jones but
never I meant to say keep it as weird you'll never be as cool as and you'll never keep it as weird as Doug Jones
love you [Music] [Music] [Music] so please tell the children that Billy B werson loves them very much would you do
that for me amazing I was just going to ask you to do that all right thank you so much I appreciate it

Weirdos! Are you ready to talk about Vampires? Today we are joined by the ICONIC actor Doug Jones, the nicest monster in Hollywood! He has played everyone from Billy Butcherson in the Hocus Pocus films, the Fawn & the Pale Man in Pan’s Labyrinth, to the Amphibian Man in the Academy Award winning film The Shape of Water, as well as the titular role in David Lee Fisher’s Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror available NOW on AppleTV, Amazon Prime, and other purchasing platforms! We ask him about his experience playing the hilarious Baron Afanas on What We Do in the Shadows which entered its final season on October 21st on FX! Ash tops off the episode telling us about a vampire legend from Poland. It has goat throwing! It has pacts with the devil! It has supernatural halitosis! It is the vampire story that keeps giving, hopefully, with the aid of our friend Dougie, will come to a theater near you at some point in the future!

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Brief Summary

Doug Jones discusses his iconic roles, experiences in Hollywood, and upcoming projects, including Nosferatu and What We Do in the Shadows.

Key points

Doug Jones: The Nicest Monster. Doug Jones, known for his iconic monster roles, is celebrated for his kindness.
Academy Awards Moment. Doug Jones reflects on his surreal experience at the Academy Awards for 'The Shape of Water.'
Final Season of 'What We Do in the Shadows'. Doug discusses the emotional farewell to his character, Baron Afanas, in the show's final season.
Nostalgia for Classic Vampires. Doug shares his excitement about playing Nosferatu in a new film adaptation.
The Count's Yearning. The character's desire for Ellen drives the narrative, showcasing his emotional depth.
A Sinister Transformation. The tale of a man who sold his son to the devil unfolds, revealing dark secrets.

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This doesn't happen, yeah, it really does.

Doug reflects on his surreal experience at the Academy Awards.

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