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well it goes without saying Captain but I'm gonna say it anyway it's obvious the
detectives were eager to talk to a one David C lock and they did so first on November 8 1992 and in that conversation
in that interview David told police that he knew Tracy since grade school they had gone way back and then they
reconnected a couple months earlier prior to her death when he had ran into her at her mother and stepfather's bar
the name of the bar is The Village Pub he says and tells detectives that he moved in with Tracy for a short period
of just a couple of weeks but they broke up and he moved out of Tracy's apartment
two weeks prior to her murder he said that they broke up because he felt bad that he still had feelings for
his ex Janet and you'll remember from our last episode that it was a little more than just an
ex-girlfriend ex-boyfriend situation between David and Janet they had been together for seven years and had two
kids together Tracy it seems like everybody is in a grance of what went down and how this
relationship between Tracy and David fell apart because he tells detectives look I I broke it off because I felt bad
that I still had feelings for my ex Janet Tracy is telling friends that she was tired of David being in constant
contact with his ex and even hanging out at Janet's house all of the time the former girlfriend is
Janet crago who was age 23 back in 1992. yeah I'd be an uncomfortable situation where you're seeing somebody and they
have to go to their ex's house every single day well this is one of those things that's difficult right because
Tracy needs to be in constant contact with her ex regarding their child right but it's unacceptable to her to have
David be in constant contact with his ex regarding their children I can see Tracy's side of this right because what
we have here is David who doesn't work very often real winner and he's probably at his ex Janet's beck and call and we
know this to be true because he's going back daily to watch the children and I could see how that would be very
unsettling yeah and you're young you're a little emotionally immature and you don't know what's going on behind closed
doors exactly if you are you're now rooming with someone who is going on The Daily back to their ex's house
and you don't know what's going on during that time but again we have these young adults trying to make their way
through this difficult world when we talk about people in their early 20s being young and dumb I swear a lot of
them still have that soft spot on their head that's how that's how young and undeveloped we all are at that time now
let's dive into this relationship between Janet and David so we were also young and dumb at one point and we're
still probably really stupid I'm wearing a helmet to protect the soft spot on my
head right now detectives notes indicate that David and Janet broke up several times over the course of their seven
years together and some of those breakups were due to what Janet reports to police as David's violent temper she
says that he had assaulted her on several occasions and that he had cheated on her multiple times over the
course of that seven years Janet said that he hit her on occasion and has given her several black eyes and a head
injury now you hit a woman you're a loser we need to be super clear about this this is Janet's statement this is
what she is saying we don't have confirmation of this in the form of the courts or law enforcement because
she openly expressed to detectives that she refused to press charges against David but multiple people attested to
seeing Janet with black eyes at some point right she says that those black eyes came from
David we can't say we can't sit here and 100 say that that is truth and fact we can only report what has been reported
to police you decipher you decide for yourself now Janet says that on the occasions that David would cheat on her
there was at least one occasion where she would go and confronted the other girl or the other woman but either way
to me won the relationships are not worth it but two you're putting yourself in a dangerous situation right so we got
this weird situation of you know Tracy on more than one occasion finds herself in a relationship with a guy who may
just be out of a relationship may still be in a relationship and she doesn't mind going and confronting the other
woman but then we have the reverse of that on this same side where Janet doesn't mind in going and
confronting the person that her boyfriend might be running around with all these individuals would make great
guests on the Jerry Springer Show so the short of it Captain is Tracy and David start this relationship
David is kicked out of his place that he lives with Janet goes to stay with Tracy
for a period of roughly two or so weeks eventually Tracy and David and their little relationship as well because we
have David who is continually going back to Janet's to watch the children and help out so it's a messy situation but
it looks like it's in the process of being cleaned up however this is just a like two weeks
before the murder of Tracy Harkness the thing here is I'm not gonna lie I was incredibly suspicious of Janet and I can
see all the reasons to have a motive here right maybe there was some kind of interaction some kind of Confrontation
between the two that got out of hand look you don't have to we should point this out there does not have to be a
plan for murder for there to be a murder the the intent doesn't have to be homicide the intent could be oh I went
over there to talk things out with her or to discuss the situation with her and we ended up in a knock down drag out
this unfortunately is the result and now we need to get Justice for our victim here according to Janet oh Janet
she says that her and Tracy actually had a couple of talks um that were not as heated as one might anticipate
and again while I was very suspicious of Janet or maybe Janet and I don't see a situation where
Janet and David do this together unless they completely went off the rails right
but Janet tells the cops that she was fine with the situation that her and David were over and she's fine with the
situation and while I don't know that that is true right I can only base it my opinion off of what I see in the notes
and how it's described to us but I really get the feeling I mean we've all been there right where you're
just kind of done with somebody yeah I'm looking at them and you're I don't know
about everybody else out there I just kind of become numb to whatever they do or sit like I just don't care
at some point I don't really have any feelings or emotion about it once I'm able to move on from somebody I don't
know what Janet's situation is other than she's saying me and him are done that was the end of
it if there's but my gut feeling tells me that like I believe her I believe that it's well it all points to this
crime of passion so it's like oh you're trying to take my man okay I'm gonna go over here and confront you gets out of
hand I murder you and now I don't want the man you know you just did this horrible crime to be with him and now
you don't even want to be with him so I it doesn't make a lot of sense well and I don't know if this is Janet trying to
throw David under the bus and I am in complete agreeance with you if if the relationship is over over then
the obvious motive for Janet to be the prime suspect is kind of Gone by that point now there could be some things
beneath the surface that we are unaware of but the the weird reaction that we have here
is that when police first go out to find David it's Janet that they encounter because
they know where these two live and when they first encounter Janet she's busy she's in the act of walking groceries in
from her car to their home or their apartment I can't recall if it's a home or apartment but
police are very blunt with Janet they say hey we're here to talk to David and you because
Tracy Harkness has been killed and Janet's reaction according to the police is oh David killed you know something to
the effect of did David kill her or David killed her something like that where she reacts and puts David right in
the driver's seat of being the perpetrator of this homicide now as weird as that sounds
we should point out that if you are phrasing a question or presenting to somebody as we're here to talk to David
because this person was murdered right I think the natural reaction from anybody would
be they must be talking to him because he's involved or they came and sought him out because he's involved right
she's implying what why they would need to talk to him but also if it's true that he was physically abusive then she
knows that this douchebag is capable of harming a woman of possibly murdering a woman right and I just go out of my way
to say that In fairness to David not that I see any reason for me to try to be fair to him but I I don't know him I
wasn't there at the situation all I can say 100 is you have these accusations of
domestic violence you have evidence that suggests that those accusations are probably correct but we don't have
anything definitive saying this guy was convicted of domestic violence right so In fairness to him I think we bring it
up that way now the thing here though too is it's David that police want to talk to
we got all this information from Janet oh Janet but it's David that they really want to talk to and they do get the
opportunity to speak with David on several occasions but I would see why after talking to Janet people would be
suspicious of her I mean I see a lot of reasons to be suspicious of Janet but also reasons to not be and a big part of
that my mind keeps going back to the idea that a couple days after the murder when they go to speak with David and
Janet David is not currently living at Janet's and we have information that states clearly that David was in the
process of trying to get back with Janet and Janet telling police that look it's
over and done I've moved on that's somewhat backed up by the fact that he's not currently living there when they go
to speak with him that's a very good point let's go through a portion of an interview between the lead detective and
David celock and here's an excerpt from one of those interviews and it's detective Robinette says what do you
think about all of this of course he's meaning the murder right celoc's answers I don't know why someone
would do it Robinette you don't have any clue David responds she didn't bother anybody she
would never yell at people or antagonize someone to do something like that that's
a bit of a weird statement to me because I can see her putting herself In Harm's
Way a little bit when she's uh confronting exes or what have you and she's clearly not running around in the
best of circles with some of these friends anyway but I think what he's trying to say
let's pretend let's give him the benefit of the doubt right innocent until proven guilty he's
never been charged with anything in this matter he may simply be saying if he's innocent he may simply be saying she
would never yell at people or antagonize someone to do something like that something this extreme that they would
have that extreme of a reaction to their interaction together a little more about
that interview the detective asked what have you heard about Tracy's death to which David replies just what I've
seen on the news someone forced their way in or something and she had been hit with a big object the detective asked
when you were living there with Tracy how was she about locking up answer oh she always locked the door she always
made sure question did she have a key made for you answer I had a key but I gave it back to
her again if that's correct I mean he's not hiding the fact that he did at one time have a key the big question then
becomes where the hell is that key why wasn't it found in the apartment and if it wasn't you know since they did not
find it in the apartment who has it and could it be this man and could he have been lying about giving that key back we
don't know my problem is the keys are never found in her apartment and I don't know where else she would Place those
keys in the fact that they never turned back up makes me lean towards the idea that David just never gave the keys back
but now it's possible that that he is not responsible for this murder at all but he just lied to Cops and said or
lied to everybody and said well I did give her back these keys because he didn't want to look more suspicious the
interview continues question would the same key fit the front and the back door answer I don't know I never used the
front door Tracy always used the back now remember he didn't live there for a very long period of time so it's
reasonable to believe that that he never used the front door at least never used
the key to gain access to the front door it would have been great to be a fly on the
wall during this interview or interrogation how are you however you want to view it and then he is asked if
Janet would have gone out to Tracy's apartment to confront her or to say something to her or does he believe that
she would have done anything to her to which he responds no Janet's not that type of person well fascinating answer
because they just lobbed up it's a softball they put the ball on the tee and you could hit a home run because if
he was guilty of this this would be a great way to point the finger at somebody else do you think Janik could
be responsible for this is she capable oh yeah she's capable pointing the fingers somewhere else there's your
scapegoat right if you're guilty and she doesn't know anything that that what you
may be guilty of that being Janet there's your softball of yeah yeah she was she was as crazy as they come I I
could totally see a situation where she would go out there and confront Tracy that [ __ ] crazy but he he doesn't take
advantage of that either he's too dumb or he doesn't see the opportunity or he has no reason to have a scapegoat the
weird thing about that answer though too though Captain is No actually that's not
a great answer because we know of at least one occasion prior to this where she did confront
someone that he had run around on her with so it's that whole I say take that with a grain
of salt because we just can't figure out or make heads or tails of who is responsible for this homicide based off
of some of this information now one thing that we need to really focus in on is let's get back let's get away from these
these characters here and get more into the timeline because it doesn't matter if you sit here and
look at this thing and say all right I could see a motive for one two three four five of these different characters
to have a motive to kill Tracy Harkness motive doesn't matter you could you could have a whole long line of people
that dislike the victim well there's a lot of people in this circle that you can find motives for but it's like did
they have the opportunity were they even in the area we have a timeline that is not going to where we have detectives
saying that other individuals if I had to rule someone out it would be him not David it would be
Michael because of the Alibis because of his timeline let's look at the timeline
for David celock So Janet kicks him out roughly on October 1st right and then later we know that Tracy their
relationship ended as well and so after their relationship ended which is supposed to be weeks before the
murder we have David celock who is staying at his friend's home ran this man's name is
Randy and he's sleeping on Randy's couch and this is going on for approximately two to three weeks leading up to the
murder now on that Thursday which is the the important date here in our timeline
that Thursday November 5th 1992 the day in question according to the timeline David arrived at Janet's house remember
he's going over there daily to watch the kids take a shower do some laundry things like that he arrives at Janet's
house around 11 A.M like every other day he says that they had an argument because he wanted to move back in she
says no he says during the course of this argument he head-butted the wall oh that's smart and so when detectives are
speaking with him he has visible cuts and bruises on his head that's fishy now either he's telling the truth and he
head-butted the wall during this argument or these could be marks and cuts that he
has on him because he attacked someone it's very fishy Janet backs up this portion of the story that David head
butted the wall and says that he did have some scratches on his forehead afterwards and at least one of the
scratches was bleeding the police when they interview him of course they're taking photos of this injuries these
these head and facial injuries that that he has yeah or this dumbass gets into argument with Janet runs his head into a
wall and then later that night commits the crime both could be true at the same time exactly both could be true or the
other thing that we of course everybody's going to want to know is when did these injuries actually appear
even with Janet backing up this portion of the story when did these injuries first appear now
it it looks like going through all of the reports that Janna is not the only person that reported to police or told
police that they had witnessed these scratches or injuries to David Pryor to the murder
prior to Thursday night afterwards after this fight after he head butts the wall
because that's always that's always the smartest thing to do in any situation just head butt the wall genius right he
says that he left Janet's this would have been around 3 10 p.m that Thursday afternoon he went to work and only
stayed until about 6 15 p.m he says he left early or asked to leave early because he had a headache this
presumably from head butting the wall well I guess the wall won police did confirm that he was at work for that
period of time for that three hours and five minutes that day based off of speaking with his employer and verifying
the timesheets of that day so after that he says he goes back to Janet's they talk for a little bit and then from
there he goes to Stoney Frazier's Stoney boner so this is a good friend of his and he says that he's at his buddy's
house around 6 30 30 he went there for the purpose of borrowing a pool cue a lot of these individuals that that are
involved in this mess Shot Pool regularly they played in these pool tournaments and in these pool leaks
billiard leagues so around 6 45 he says he's walking into the Village Pub where he shot pool he says for maybe 45
minutes or so sometime after 7 pm he said that he and some other guys on a pool team walked to friendlies this is a
different bar where they're going to go shoot pool this was for an actual pool tournament that was scheduled for that
evening it's amazing how much this guy does and how many hobbies he has when he doesn't have a job now there are reports
from several people that are at this friendlies bar that David celock was not so friendly
while he was there because there's several reports of him being one very drunk and two quite pissed off yeah he
was drunk in public I don't know when the aggravation or where he became obviously
angry or pissed off to the other patrons of the bar but one thing that did go down and this
was reported by several people that were at the bar that night that David celock
started yelling at someone on the phone so apparently he was trying to play for money right he's trying to
play for like a hundred bucks right and because we talked about his sketchy work
history look this guy doesn't have the hundred bucks to put up for his own game of course so he's drunk he's trying to
borrow this money or get somebody to back him in this game and of course nobody's willing to back him and that's
when he it's the reports come from him being angry with people at the bar again it's hard to say how angry was he before
this all happened I think this is just a situation where he's it's snowballing right he was pissed off when he walked
in there and he got more angry that things weren't going his way the thing that's weird though is there
are several reports uh that say that he was on the phone and he could he was overheard on the phone now nobody knows
who he was talking to but he's calling the person a [ __ ] multiple times during
this phone conversation and yelling at whoever it is he's on the phone with him these guys are pretend tough guy now we
do need to point out something here though that this person whoever he was talking to it's highly unlikely that it
was Tracy that he's talking to because remember she is at the lingerie party until 10 30 P.M
so unless he managed to call her at this party right and get her on the phone and
then later nobody at the party report that she took a call that she's getting yelled at definitely seems like
something people would remember he's talking to somebody else in my mind not Tracy yeah I agree with you it makes
more sense exactly there's no evidence of that and it doesn't make any sense either because she wasn't even home
at the time so again for him to be talking to Tracy he would have had to call the party that she's at
we have no indication he would have known the phone number and we have zero persons at that party saying that Tracy
took a phone call at the party or that she got upset because somebody was yelled at her on the phone there's zero
indication that he was talking to Tracy is there any evidence of who he's talking to I have no idea who he was
talking to and it doesn't look like police had an idea of who he was talking to either
[Music] thank you [Music] [Music] foreign all right we are back cheers everybody
and cheers to you Colonel cheers to all the people in the back cheers to all the people at Friendly's
bar as we discussed maybe not everybody's so friendly at the bar but the key thing here Captain The
crucial moment that we really need to discuss in our timeline here is we have David celock who says
that he stayed at Friendly's bar until 10 30 11 or maybe 11 30 p.m that night okay 10 30 11 maybe 11 30 that night
however we have multiple people at the bar that say no he left before that he left
so should she we have a few different opinions on what time he left or what time he was last seen by these different
people at Friendly's bar but some people have him leaving the bar as early as 9 some people have him leaving the bar as
late as 10 15. nobody in the reports has him leaving any later than 10 15. not 10 30 not 11
not 11 30 like he says that's a problem because you are one lying to law enforcement but two you're essentially
trying to establish an alibi if he knows what time the victim was killed yes that's correct so what we have here is
his timeline is not matching up with the witnesses the people at the bar David celock says you know regardless of what
time he left the bar he says that he returned to Janet's that night walking there from Friendly's bar now I don't
know the distance between those two locations but I'm guessing that they're rather close everywhere that he talked
about going leading up to Friendly's bar he's on foot anyway so I'm imagining that all this stuff is pretty close
together now in Janet's interview she says that she's not real sure what time David celock arrived at her place after
playing pool that night of course she originally says maybe eight or nine pm okay so that doesn't really match up
with what he's saying and that doesn't match up with what people at the bar saying very frustrating and be very
frustrating for law enforcement she does say that she she later says that she is
uncertain to be clear she's uncertain of what time he showed up that when when asked of what time to give that she
needed to provide a time that's her gut reaction maybe eight or nine o'clock but
does go on to say that she's not certain what time he arrives other than she says
I know that the kids were still up when he got there and I was busy cleaning the
house when he arrives now Janet says that she believes that David was at her home from 9 to 12 30. so after midnight
that night we do have another person who is there as well and it's a little confusing to
me if this person 100 backed up the times that are provided but this person's name is listed and
because I cannot confirm if they gave a statement that they witnessed David C lock there and present
and accounted for from 9 to 12 30. I'm not going to give out their name here's the problem though even if they
did give that statement which I've not seen let's say they did give a statement backing up and confirming the 9 to 12 30
PM how much weight do you give that statement provided that you have multiple people I'm not talking about
one or two or three people I'm talking about a minimum of six people that were at the bar and none of them have him
leaving in time to be there at 9 00 pm at Janet's house at 9pm right and even his own words
I stayed till 10 30 11 11 30. mm-hmm and that doesn't go with what other people witnessed at the bar so his whole
timeline is all jacked up and that's not good when you find yourself on a short list of Persons of Interest in a
homicide investigation where is he claiming that he went after right because he's we know that he's not
allowed to stay at Janet so my guess is he probably goes back there I do believe
that he went back there at some point because we have a another person the the man that he was staying with his friend
Randy says that he picked up David C lock from Janet's home around midnight or received a call around midnight to go
and pick him up this seems like none of their stories he says he then picked them up and then he along with Randy and
two other persons they went to Meyer well it's a great time to get produce I believe this was the mire located on
Bryce Road at the time and they went there just to pick up a few things to where David purchased gum and
cigarettes now police would later find a receipt for this purchase and Randy is saying that he returned
David to Janet's home around 1 15 after going to the mire now Randy would then go and drop off the other two people
that were with them and then he circled back picked up David from Janet's and then they returned to Randy's house
where they both fell sleep watching TV yeah something doesn't feel right about that story but no all those people
though if their time frame is just off by a little bit it still put some on the east side of Columbus which is a
good 30 minutes or so away from the murder scene that's correct now the only things that I'm saying happen for
certain here is that I believe that at some point after shooting pool I believe that David
did go to Janet's house now was that at was that at uh closer to 10 o'clock like
you know or none of it adds up depending on who you talk to you check it with the
next person in line and the times don't add up well telling time is Home Janet's
times don't match David's times David's times don't match Janet's times David's times don't match the people at the bars
times it's all very wonky and then you could say that maybe some of Randy's times match up with
with Janet's times but really what I feel like we have here and I feel very confident saying this right
it looks to me like we might have a two-hour window of where this person is unaccounted for
and then not only that you throw in some weird things too you can already see reasons not to
believe everything that everybody is saying when all these times don't match up right right so let's throw this weird
thing in there that we have the statement that David brought a pool cue with him to go to Meyer
that's how you check your program I don't know now mind you if the reports are correct
and he is drunk like they said he was maybe he just wasn't thinking and just grabbed it went out the door maybe he
thought there's a chance we might go shoot pool right I don't know but but let's If he
if he's going to Meyer and that's the only reason for him to be picked up in the
first place why take the pool cue why does he need to go back to Janet's briefly while these other two are
dropped off it almost feels like to me like we have some missing time from this individual's
timeline and then we have other people around him that are trying their best to fill in the blanks to fill in those gaps
they just don't know where the gaps are or what or what they should be filling it in with yeah because there's a part
of you if your friend was being questioned for a murder where maybe your your gut is telling you
my friend wouldn't murder somebody maybe he gets violent every now and then maybe
he does some stupid stuff but he's not going to murder somebody you try to fudge your story a little bit to help
out your buddy I will say this Captain is the best person in the world Janet and David
and a lot of these individuals here that we're talking about and we're questioning their movements we're
questioning their statements at least early on in the investigation all of them appear to be attempting to
cooperate with the investigation and cooperate with police and I say this in the sense of there there were
searches that were going on of these people's homes and their vehicles and everything I saw captains says that
these were consensual searches that the police didn't have to work too hard to get permission to go in and search the
place so that's one in the favor of all of these individuals now of those searches one of them in particular of
Interest was a consensual search of Janet's home and her car this takes place on November on November 12th
the search of her vehicle revealed a floor mat which lit up for traces of blood a claw hammer was found under the
driver's seat which had according to Dr Norton's measurements given in the autopsy
the report states that or at least some believe that the claw hammer that was found in her vehicle that the
measurements are similar that they align with those of the measurements given by
the good doctor so these items are seized of course and then that's when Janet is brought back in for a follow-up
interview well look I I hate to bring this up all the time and I know you can't use them in a court of law but
this would be a great time to get a barometer of if people are telling the truth because we have people telling
stories that line up if I was law enforcement I'm pulling out the old lie detector so I can get a sense of who's
telling me the truth or just to start scaring people into telling me the correct story here's a couple things and
this is where the story gets even more confusing so the first thing that the police want to know and you can tell
they've kind of really honed in on David at this point even though we find this incriminating possible evidence in
Janet's vehicle so one of the first questions they want to know is hey do you ever let this guy drive your vehicle
Janet says no no she did not ever let David Drive her vehicle and goes on to say he has his own
vehicle he can use his own vehicle and then to further along that story she says that they actually had an argument
because on that Thursday night she at some point prior to Thursday gives David thirty dollars so that he
could go and get tags for his car he spent the 30 bucks on something else doesn't get the tags for his vehicle and
asked Janet if if he could borrow her tags from her car because he's a dumbass she grants him permission of course
they're in an argument because hey what'd you do with the money I gave him because he's a dumbass now she's mad she
wants her tags back rightfully so she says that David gave them back to her on Friday
so detectives of course have a lot of questions about him a lot of questions about his car a lot of questions about
her car but the questions that I think are the most important from the interview
Sergeant deskins asked Janet was there any work done on your car last Thursday Janet last Thursday no Sergeant deskins
was any work done on your car last Friday Janet no deskins follows up okay Saturday and the answer from Jana is no
all right I want everybody to remember that because on the 13th Jerry Johnson a very good friend of
David celock's and Janet's tells police that he was replacing the brakes in Janet's car on the day of the
murder and he cut his hand in bled he did not know had sorry he did not know he had bled inside of Janet's
vehicle he said that he just noticed it he just noticed the cut when he was finished
with the work and he washed up [ __ ] and then police are now asking this Jerry guy and Janet hey was your vehicle
operational on Thursday night to which Jerry is telling police no that vehicle is not operational because it had no
breaks I was fixing the brakes it was parked overnight at someone else's home and we his name is on record
saying that this Jerry guy was going to do the work first thing in the morning I
know they're young but this is loser Janet takes off the tags gives them to David for him to use and then he gives
the tags back on Friday afternoon and now the vehicle is working again we can base that off of the situation of
she's walking in groceries when she's notified on Friday that uh or I'm sorry when she is notified
on that Friday or Saturday that Tracy Harkness was killed right so this is this is where none of this portion of
the case makes any sense you can see what appears to be oh there there's never been any work
done on my car wait we found blood in your car oh test the blood though now all of a sudden there's been work that
was done and it was the mechanic guy helping me out that probably bled inside of my car and he's presenting that
information to the police and then you have the weird situation of the trading back and forth of the pla of the tags or
plates off of Janet's vehicle all during the time in question here and then you have David celock's timeline not lining
up with that of the people at the bar or Janet's or Randy's it's again I think what we have here is
I think we have a situation of someone some ones are covering for somebody else trying to fill in those blanks and those
gaps they just don't know a what do the police know that we don't know we don't know what gaps to fill in what
lies to create and none of these lies that are creating are covering anybody else's tracks along
the way right but you think like I said if you have this mat that's filled of blood you test the blood if it's
if it's Tracy's blood then winner winner chicken dinner well that's what's even more weird
they run tests on the blood it comes back it's not human blood so why this is what I don't understand why is
this guy lying for them right either somebody's lying here because either work yes was done and you chose to lie
about it or work wasn't done and he chose to help you out and lie about it but why create the lie at all
if you're not trying to cover up Tracy's blood right and then you have this weapon
that is a is a possible murder weapon a tool that is possibly a murder weapon but then again there's no blood or
evidence that that connects that tool to Tracy Harkness or to the murder yeah but we also have evidence where it
seems that we have some kind of evidence that somebody tried to clean something up there was some paper towels or some
towels and is it possible to get into this altercation this murder goes down the person then
decides to wipe their arm down because they got blood on their arm oh I gotta I've got to make sure they clean off the
blood and then I gotta clean up this this mess on this weapon and now I gotta leave
but to me I don't know if this evidence found in her car points to Janet more than it I feel it almost
points more to Janet than it does to to David well you would think so because she's saying one
it's her car and two that that she never let him use her vehicle I think the better question is did he have access to
it not did you let him use it but does he have access does he know how to you know if she fell asleep could he
take the vehicle the thing here though let's let's pretend for a minute that we know and we
don't know this but let's pretend for a minute that we know that she was only killed by one person
and only that one person may know the details of the time that they went to her apartment the time that they left
her apartment how long they were at Tracy's apartment where they went where they came from and where they went
afterwards let's pretend that only one person knows that why in the situation would a bunch
of people be lying to the police and coming up with these stories that don't that conflict with one another these
stories conflict with one another that's because that's because they don't know the details if if I'm your friend
and you ask me to lie for you or if for some reason I believe hey I would be helping out the captain here I don't
know what happened he's probably innocent of everything he's a good guy but don't do that turn turn on me but
oh I should probably you know I might have to FIB a little bit or exaggerate a little bit what I keep going back to is
that clearly somebody's lying to police because the stories conflict all these stories cannot be true it's
physically impossible hold on hold on one second though because I think sometimes it goes back
to your theory you say lazy or stupid right but sometimes it's it's liar or stupid
and there's sometimes look there there could be a good possibility that law enforcement is asking these people a few
days later and these people don't have much of a life they run here and there and everywhere we went to this
bar we did this and they don't know exactly what time it was or what time somebody left and so it is
possible that some people are giving misinformation but they don't even know it's misinformation it's just the best
they could do it was the best answer that they could give law enforcement I don't think that holds any water at all
and I I do want to clear something up because I think you got my credos wrong here so lazy or stupid I put that on
police and on detectives when I see a problem with an investigation I say say it's either either lazy or stupid in
some situations when it comes to the flip side of that coin suspects and people that may have been involved in a
crime it's one of these situations if not all of them is just another great example of
either stupid or liar right and and I think what what I'm getting at here though the reason why I
don't think that we can give them the benefit of the doubt saying look they're just they're just dumb they
just don't know they don't know what really happened that day they they're confused about what happened that day
here here's a pretty clear-cut liar or stupid to me you're asked three times if you had any work done on your vehicle
right every single time you say no did you have any work done on your vehicle on Thursday no Friday no
Saturday no and then we found blood in your car and now all of a sudden it's followed up with
this Jerry person coming out of the coming out of the woodwork saying that hey I was fixing the brakes on her car
both of those things didn't happen two people didn't get so confused in in this world that we live in that one of them
saying now that I worked on the vehicle and the other ones said originally no there was no work done on my vehicle
right so again I don't know who is being covered up for what I do know is this David celock's timeline is a problem
and it's only a problem for David celock but it's also a problem because he has violent tendencies
and he had no place to stay and so there's motive for him to go back to ex-girlfriend's house
to go hey can I stay here again like you said it doesn't have to be premeditated
but then he goes to stay and he goes hey let me stay here no no we're done we're
through I gotta work in the morning you need to go and now he's not getting in his way
and just what what happened earlier that day things weren't going his way and this dumbass decides to fight a wall
with his head so it's not out of the realm of possibility that he tries to hey I'll
sleep on the couch no it's not happening well why can't you help me nobody else is staying on the couch just
let me stay on the couch oh now I'm not gonna fight the wall I'm going to fight you
and that's a very real possibility the other thing that's tricky here too Captain is remember we talked about
where you can kind of start your belief of when do we have the time of death what time did that occur
and we would probably say that your earliest window there would be probably 10 40 PM because
everyone's saying that Tracy left the party at 10 30ish we know that it takes 10 minutes approximately to get from the
party to Tracy's apartment now we have people at Friendly saying that David left as early as 9 30. we have him
saying on the flip side of that I left at 10 30 11 or 11 30. only the killer knows what time that
they need to cover their butt for if he left it the earlier part of that where did he go if he is the killer where did
he go for that time period because it's only a 15-minute drive from friendlies to Tracy's apartment
now keep in mind we do have people that have him at the bar as late as 10 15 which that aligns a little bit more with
what I believe the police suspicions were of David's timeline in comparison to Tracy's timeline right
that's a that's a very good point so we should point out though that of all these people that are interviewed while
there were rumors that some people may have known or heard who killed Tracy I couldn't find anybody that's on this
short list of Persons of Interest what we are calling Persons of Interest that was openly accusing somebody else
on that list of having committed this murder in fact everyone's saying quite the
opposite in regard to other persons on this list when asked by police they're saying no he or she would not have done
this they're not that type of person they would never attack somebody or intentionally kill someone
the weird thing though to Circle back to that we found this in your car and your car
wasn't worked on now it was worked on the thing here though Captain is why is that lie created just because
they didn't find anything incriminating in your EV in your vehicle still does not explain away why a lie
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Friday, November 6, 1992 was a horrifying day that forever changed the lives of everyone who knew and loved 24 year old Tracy Renee Harkness. Tracy was found beaten to death in her apartment that she shared with her 18 month old daughter. There were no signs of forced entry and police ruled out burglary as a motive. Investigators said the attack on Tracy was a crime a passion. Thirty years have passed since the murder and now Tracy’s family and the Grove City Police Department are hoping that new technology and DNA testing will lead to an arrest. If you know who killed Tracy Renee Harkness call the Grove City Police department at 614.277.1710 OR to submit a tip and remain anonymous call 614.645-TIPS OR you can Email our show by going to our website www.TrueCrimeGarage.com

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Brief Summary

The episode examines the murder of Tracy Harkness and the complicated relationships and timelines of David Celock and Janet Crago.

Key points

The Complicated Relationship. David's past with Janet complicates his relationship with Tracy, leading to tension and conflict.
Suspicion on Janet. Janet's reaction to Tracy's murder raises eyebrows, putting David in the spotlight.
David's Alibi. David claims he was at Janet's house before Tracy's murder, raising questions about his involvement.
David's Timeline Discrepancies. David claims he stayed at Friendly's until late, but witnesses say otherwise.
Evidence Found in Janet's Car. A claw hammer and traces of blood were found in Janet's vehicle, raising suspicions.
Conflicting Stories. The investigation reveals multiple conflicting accounts from witnesses, raising suspicion.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I swear a lot of them still have that soft spot on their head.

Reflecting on the immaturity of young adults.

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Tension

65/ 100Some tension

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