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a chair grab a beer let's talk some true [Music] crime [Music] when we are little kids there are
stories that the older kids tell us supposed real life terrifying stories handed down from teenagers to smaller
children and then the small children get a little older and then they tell the same stories they once
heard much of these are simply folklore and urban legends stories of an escaped violent
mental patient stalking lovers Lanes with a hook for a hand or one I heard in my
hometown about a certain Hill that if you park your car they're on a certain night the ghost of someone having died
in a car accident many years earlier would throw your car down the hill into the treelined Ravine
below killing you and later giving the appearance that you suffered the same car accident and
death as the ghost so many years before this week's case is much like these urban legends in a sense that the
story has been repeated for decades and like any good urban legend this is a cautionary tale about the
horrific and tragic death you could have if you don't listen to your parents obey
the rules or if you talk to strangers for kids growing up in parts of Wyoming in Oklahoma they heard
stories of what could happen to you when you do talk to a strange man or accept a ride from someone you don't
know you don't come back no one sees you alive again what was and remains different for
those kids compared to other children in other neighborhoods when these kids grew up
they learned the stories they were told about missing children and a killer Cowboy were
real this week we discussed the Rollins Rodeo murders [Music] this case has several names but the one
I find used most commonly is the Rollins Rodeo murders this case may have and may
have are the key words to pay attention to here and that will become clear as we
dive into this thing but this case may have or seems to have started in Rollins Wyoming back in the mid
1970s now Captain a lot of people don't know how we go about our business behind
closed doors here in the garage but about once a month you and I have a case scheduling meeting and I love these
times that we spend together you come to the table with the cases that you have in your Arsenal and I have some cases in
my backpack as well and we sit down and we discuss what cases should we cover for the next several weeks weeks and I
got to give you Kudos my friend because you came up with this case and I find it
to be extremely fascinating well you can thank the listeners yes most of our cases whether it be cases you bring to
the table or that I bring the overwhelming majority of the cases that we cover are listener suggestions so
we're very thankful to all of you out there for providing those to us and we receive a overwhelming number of these
case suggestions yeah my list is over a thousand now so I kind of framed that in
there at the beginning because coming up with this case I had never heard of this
one and look there are obviously many cases I have never heard of but just like the boys on the tracks and the
missing Fort Worth Trio cases that we covered of course all available on the very free very awesome Stitcher app
these are cases that have fascinated me ones that I was not familiar with in cases that unless you were around in
that area around the time of these cases you didn't know about them either and the Rollins Rodeo murders is exactly
like the boys on the tracks in the Fort Worth Trio cases when you learn more about this you will be asking yourself
why have I not heard of this one why is this case not more wellknown and I say not more wellknown be I found
evidence to suggest that people even living in the area had not known about these cases the some of the locals
around these Rodeo murder cases I found one post on Reddit where someone was saying they grew up in the area of
one of these cases saying they didn't believe it was a true story until they got older and learned that in fact it
was some thought it was just a fictionary cautionary tale told the kids you know don't get into cars with
strangers like got urban legend yes so to get started let's go back to July 4th 1974 Independence Day in Rollins which
is in carbon County Wyoming Rollins back in the mid '70s the population is less than 8,000 people and I've never been to
Wyoming but the town of Rollins is in the southern portion of Wyoming in fact Carbon County is on the state's Southern
border so touching the North Colorado border on July 4th 1974 the weather was pretty much average at least
historically with a high of 84° 19-year-old carlen Brown and her good friend also 19 years old Christy
gross visited the little Brites Rodeo that day in Rollins Wyoming later they were reported missing when both young
women failed to return home very little information is available regarding the circumstances of their disappearances
but neither are considered to have run away to start a new life somewhere else in fact according to the Charlie
project.org website Carlene's case his classification is endangered missing and many believe she was murdered many years
ago probably shortly after she was abducted authorities could only Trace back their whereabouts to the little
Brites Rodeo as that was the last confirmed sightings of either woman after they disappeared the car they were
traveling in was found abandoned in warland Wyoming so this is over 200 mil away
North we will come back to this vehicle later trust me there's there's some issues with this vehicle
authorities initially believed that both carlen and Christie left on their own leaving the rodeo on their own but the
investigation as it began and carried on they started coming up with some other possibilities As Time passed and this
was when no one had heard from either woman you know as the time was going on they thought at some point they might
resurface but they never did according to the Charlie project website carlen Brown is missing from Rollins Wyoming
since July 4th 1974 her date of birth is January 14th 1955 so she would have just recently
celebrated her 64th birthday if she was alive today she was 19 years old when she was last seen she was approximately
5T to 5' 3 in tall and weighed between 100 and 120 lb her distinguishing characteristics she is a Caucasian with
brown hair brown eyes and she has Surgical stars on her big toes on both feet now regarding Christy gross her
skeletal remains were found but this wasn't until over 9 years later there was no sign of carlen at the scene and
as stated before she has never been seen or heard from again Christy gross had been killed by two heavy blows to the
skull her body was found October 27th of 1983 3 Mi south of Sinclair Wyoming okay so for those of us not super
familiar with the great state of Wyoming the two disappeared in Rollins and then their vehicle was found
in warland Wyoming so roughly over 200 miles or so north of where they were last seen yeah then 9 years later
Christy gross's body is found 3 miles south of Sinclair this is nowhere near where the vehicle was found in fact this
is much closer to where authorities believe they may have been abducted from Rollins yes so Sinclair is roughly just
seven to 10 miles east of Rollins so just three miles south of that is where the body was found right
the information out there does not provide a great description of the state of the body although no one anywhere is
saying anything like Christy was alive for years after her abduction so I'm guessing the state of the body would
have been extremely decomposed so possibly they're abducted from the rodeo she is
murdered 7 miles outside of the rodeo their car is found 200 miles from there mhm and possibly the other victim is
murdered somewhere else or is still alive correct we also don't have a great description of where her body was found
but we already said Rollins was a small town well Sinclair is significantly smaller than Rollins in fact I couldn't
find any record that suggests sin CL ever even had a th000 people living there the description does say 3 Mi
south of Sinclair and there are Open Fields Creeks plenty of Wide Open Spaces it looks like we have probably oil
fields refineries pipelines that sort of thing so the Great Wide Open so what we
have here is a small town and a mysterious disappearance of not one but two 19-year-old girls they went missing
together the car is found and then not until 9 years later is Christie's body discovered but still to this day carlen
has never been located so before we get too deep into some other stuff I have to
mention a newspaper article I found from November 11th 1983 this is when they are announcing
that they have identified the unidentified body that was found and that we now know to be the body of
Christy gross according to this article they are interviewing deputy sheriff Jeff fosh and I don't know what to think
of this I I truly don't as this one article completely contradicts some other information that I have found and
that we have by this point in the story already covered before we get to the contradictions there are some somewhat
more detailed information in this article Christy's body was identified using a partial dental records match so
just a a partial match Jeff fosh says her death was caused by at least two blows to the head so maybe more now for
the contradictions which I find this to be huge first this says the body was found a few miles north of Sinclair so
exactly the opposite direction of what all of the other information States next and this is even more aggravating in
this article Jeff fosh says a van that the women were driving was found at the fairgrounds well that's different
completely different than all the information that is current that is out there we're talking about a car that was
found 200 miles away he's referencing a van that they were driving found at the fairgrounds where they were last seen #
vanan the van but also you just wonder is this just bad reporting or does fosh not have the
right information right because we're talking about he's he's talking about a case that they find the body nine years
later he's being interviewed because they just found the body he may be unclear as to what took place 9 years
later and I say this frustrates me to no end and it's not so much that the information contradicts itself so much
it's more so that I spent a hell of a long time trying to figure out which one was correct right and I couldn't
determine so you're hearing both of them only one of them is correct we know that
Janet fransen who has worked carlen Brown's case says quote let's be clear No One Believes Brown's case will have a
happy ending we are pretty sure carlen Brown is a homicide case fransen worked for the national missing and
unidentified person system namus for short and had this to say of her work and the cases that came with it quote a
lot of these cases are homicides without bodies when they happened local law enforcement didn't have any idea what to
do with it it wasn't that they were neglectful it's just they didn't have the kind of expertise Franson has worked
very hard in her capacity to help close caren's case but there are complications francon says the problem
is we can't find her family see carlen was adopted and investigators don't know the Identity or whereabouts of her birth
family those records are gone her adoptive parents divorced prior to 1974 carlen lived in Rollins with her
adopted father and brother at the time of her disappearance her adopted mother lived in Colorado
carlen graduated from Rollins High School in 1973 today her adoptive mother father
and brother are all now deceased Janet fransen keeps searching for any of carlen Brown's family that may be out
there so that she can get DNA samples to build a profile so we have to think about this for a second here Captain the
situation is this we have a missing woman who's been missing for a very long time should they find remains will they
even be able to connect it back to carlen because we don't have a DNA profile of her now what I have found and
this is in the records but once again I'm I'm Once Bitten and twice shy about this because we've already seen
discrepancies in these records what I found is that regarding carlen Brown no fingerprints are on file for her but
what is listed is that there are dental records on file right and I say that I say that with a little hesitation
because we've seen other cases that state that there are dental records on file only to find out later that is not
the case on Sunday August 4th 1974 14-year-old Deborah Ray Meer went missing Deborah actually lived in Red
Lodge Montana at the time of her disappearance she and her family were visiting relatives in Rollins Wyoming on
the day she went missing Deborah was last seen departing from a family members residence near the intersection
of sth and Spruce streets she planned to walk to a local movie theater by what remains on the record these days there
is not anything to suggest that she ever arrived at the movie theater then she never returned back to the home this
area though seems difficult for me this is very much the downtown area and if in
fact she was on foot during daytime hours there is something I think very fishy about her having last been seen in
this area she likely traveled more on foot than where she was last seen okay uh probably traveled a
little bit further than the last time she was seen But there are no witnesses there aren't any witnesses that saw her
interacting with anyone or anyone snatching her up I mean depending on which direction she was walking there
seems to be a lot of houses and businesses throughout that whole area you know our minds often will go
immediately to a vehicle was used in an abduction at least my mind does you know
and rightfully so because often that is the result what the result often shows yeah however in this particular story I
wonder about the businesses and houses in the area this this case I wonder so much about because there is simply no
good public information out there so that I have to question this myself we have a situation where a young girl goes
on vacation with her family to visit other family members in this area and we don't really have any public record of
this disappearance the only thing I could find was her parents stating that she was a good kid and she would have
never run off but no description of anything that could have happened to her that day we don't even know roughly
about what time of day she was last seen or by whom right we don't know how long
until she was reported missing but we have a sighting of her going downtown that's that's what the information
States and all we can gather is that it would appear that police were unable to find anyone at the movie theater that
reported seeing her that day so she's 14 years old so roughly 14 19 victim's age
would be similar in both cases M would be too far off and if she's 14 and looks 16 then it's even closer an age Deborah
has almost no digital footprint and her case is almost an O by the way type case
right just tacked on to these other cases according to an organization near and dear to my heart the national Center
for missing and exploited children Deborah at the time of her disappearance was Caucasian with brown hair and eyes
5'4 and weighing about 115 pounds so a very similar General description as Carly brown right according to findthe
missing.org Facebook page Deborah has some distinctive features and they are as described she has a pencil eraser
size growth on her left ear and she has a full set of Dentures her clothing and accessories worn on that day are listed
as unknown her fingerprint information is not available her dental information and charting is not available but on the
brighter side it does say that her DNA status samples submitted test complete so it looks like at least they have DNA
on file wait go back to that you said full set of Dentures correct at at 14 correct well that's pretty strange so we
have two 19-year-old females that go missing a month later in the same area yeah we have a 14-year-old go missing
yes so you're talking about we have a similar description of two of the victims here same similar General
description anyway we also have potential crimes of opportunity abductions of opportunity somebody spots
these girls right uh these young women and decides to pounce well the 14-year-old would be walking and she was
walking by herself from what little information is out there right and then you have the 19-year-olds they could be
walking to their car we don't know where they would have been abducted from right well and here's the thing too
you got to consider with the 19-year-olds the 1974 what if and I I'm not saying that
that year plays much into it but just kind of WR what it sounded rolling through this in my own mind here uhhuh
you have to wonder with the vehicle being found that's that's why it's so aggravating where the hell this vehicle
was actually found because one thing I want wonder about in a crime of opportunity do we have someone saying
hey could you give me a lift I mean that seems like the most plausible thing to me especially if you find the vehicle
200 miles away a lot of hitchhikers yeah and they may have felt a sense of safety
in numbers because there's two of them and maybe just one man or one young man or somebody asks for a ride hey could
you give me a ride just two miles up the road sure no problem we're leaving anyway and then boom you're never seen
again well and if we think of it in those terms then we'd have to look at the perpetrator being somebody that
doesn't live in the area but possibly works in the area and so you could take like the rodeo there they normally have
like at convention centers or whatever where people work there periodically so they might not live they might live
pretty far away but they work in the area so I wonder also the day that the 14-year-old goes
missing was there something in that town happening was there another Rodeo or or
was there some show or play or whatever there could have been I mean these rodeos happen frequently in this area
and you'll see that as we continue on through these cases but the there's some very difficult things here with with
this case with with Deborah's case in particular for me um and you had asked me just briefly before we flip the mics
back on do I think the cases these cases are connected well I think the time frame I mean we have one month to the
day between the abductions so that plays a factor in in a in a pro for yes they're probably connected two you have
the area we have a small area where these two abductions take place right so another another check in the yes box for
are they connected I hesitate to say that they are connected because of this with Deborah's case there is no
information out there and what I mean by that is as stated her digital footprint
is extremely small if you find some information about her on the Charlie project or you know missing persons
websites so on and so forth It's all pretty much the same information regurgitated over and over again and
it's basically a short little paragraph where I find problems with her case is the lack of evidence the lack of
information about this little girl okay so or the fact that she had a full mouth
of Dentures okay well that's a strange it's it's Unique yes and we don't know why she had a full set of Dentures but
here's what I question further if if she has Dentures why are there no dental records and and I know
somebody's laughing right now going well this cuz she doesn't have any teeth well
you would have some information you pay somebody paid for those Dentures right somewhere there's a record of those
dentures and even even if it's in her home state of Montana why don't we have that information you know we're talking
about could her remains have been found between when she went missing in current
day possibly I don't know what it means to say that they have DNA test submitted
and that they have something on file I don't know if if throughout the course of the years the decades that have gone
by if certain remains were tested that were found what I'm getting at is the the problem I have here is look we have
the one single statement by her parents that say she was a good kid she wouldn't
have run off right I have a huge problem that there there's no damn information about this kid it's almost like she went
out for a walk one day while on vacation with her parents she disappeared and it's almost like she never even existed
but her parents weren't from the area correct they lived in Montana they were visiting relatives in Rollins Wyoming so
I think that makes it difficult cuz we also don't know the financial status of her parents so they could have just not
had enough money to stay in the area and keep looking for her and also during the
70s with all the the the gas shortage and all that stuff maybe they just couldn't afford to keep traveling back
and forth well I get that and and I'm I don't want to sound like I'm blaming the
parents here because I think where my my anger should be directed is maybe there's just a lack of good record
keeping right maybe that information was submitted but again I question this whole thing like we said Dentures were
made no dental records on file seems strange seems fishy nobody gives a time of when this girl was last seen seems
strange also what clothing was she wearing what articles accessories did she have on her person at that time we
don't know it says unknown why would it be unknown how much stuff did she pack to go on this trip and you can't go even
if you didn't see her I get it maybe you're busy hanging out with relatives that day you didn't actually physically
see her leave the home and walk away but you can't go through the suitcase and go
well it looks like this is missing and this is missing she probably had that on her that day well and again it's not
like today and age where you can have somebody go missing let's say in Cleveland and then I live in Columbus
well I can do a bunch of work on the internet to keep the story alive M or you know make some phone calls so again
it's it's it's almost like this person disappeared but we don't even know anything about her other than that she
had a full mouth of fake teeth at the age of 14 and two the the other very sad part of her short her very short story
is I almost feel like if there weren't these other cases these other abductions right she she may have no record of her
at all at this point very likely her parents have passed away I would love you know we even did a shout out this
week to someone a great listener in Wyoming in the state of Wyoming I would love if somebody in the area has
information or has old newspaper articles or something to expand her story more so that we can learn more
about her possible disappearance right again it could be like some public records there might be a bunch of
articles on this it just never made it online yeah all these decades later all these miles away way and here's the
other thing too that's a little weird captain we do see this once in a while but it's not extremely common we have
covered a lot of missing persons cases a lot of homicide cases but very few cases
have we covered where a person a child is on vacation or visiting another state or or someplace else with their parents
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Angie [Music] that all right we're back cheers MIM cheers captain and usually I don't get
frustrated or angry until the second episode of a casee but while I'm voicing and venting my anger regarding the lack
of personal information about a missing child right I do want to discuss something that we have mentioned before
on the show but a quick reminder you can download the free FBI Child ID kit I recommend doing this it's an easy way to
store your child's most current information God forbid you need it for a missing child situation Not only would
you have recent information of your child but if you are out and about and something should happen as long as you
have your device that you have the info you have the info of the person your child that is missing you can pass that
along and hopefully that comes to help now we got to talk about another case Okay Captain this is August 23rd so
we're talking Less Than 3 weeks later 10-year-old jayen Baker went to the Carbon County rodeo with a friend
after the second performance the two got separated at the fairgrounds jayen was to return home by 10:30 p.m. when she
did not her parents notified police at 11:00 p.m. and reported her missing jayen Baker was just 10 years old
missing Flyers were printed and distributed this providing a brief description of the young girl standing 5
ft tall with light brown hair brown eyes and she was last seen wearing an all navy color outfit it looks like
authorities went all out on the search for her conducting door-to-door searches and even using two planes to assist in
the search this took place on Saturday afternoon so less than 24 hours after she was noticeably gone also they did
one of my favorite tactics when you have a missing child and no real leads ladies
and gentlemen it's time for the old pervert Roundup police announced that the investigation included the holding
and questioning of sex offenders believed to have been in the area at the time but they were eventually all
cleared authorities did announce publicly that they did not rule out the possibility of the child being kidnapped
however no leads would indicate such that turned up in the early investigation by the Thursday after so
just about a week after she went missing the authorities announced that any leads
that local searches provided were followed but they went nowhere and now they were bringing in the FBI for fear
that the girl may have been abducted and transported across the state line then 8
months later on April 23rd 1975 a man out walking his dog discovered the partially nuded lifeless
body of jayen Baker this was near the city's Gravel Pit about 2 miles west of Rollins Wyoming her body was found in
the face down position she was wearing only tennis shoes socks and a t-shirt laboratory analysis of the
girl's clothing failed to produce any evidence what they did learn is the cause of death was a head injury likely
caused by a severe Blow To The Head the county sheriff went on record stating that he has no doubt in his mind that
the girl died where she was found he said evidence at the scene told them so though he would not specify as to what
that evidence was so even though we now know that two bodies of the missing girls would be eventually found the the
thing to hone in on here before we venture further is that looking back at 1974 we had four missing girls in just 7
weeks in Rollins Wyoming so closing out the year of 1974 they still had found any bodies yet it wasn't until eight
months later that the first body was found and then the second body is found n years later four missing people in a
small area in seven weeks is just I mean it's incredible well and the fact that three of the victims were last seen out
a rodeo so that it's it's strange yeah and it that's what's troubling too is that okay we're talking about rodeos
here there probably would have been a lot of people at both of those events yet we don't have any eyewitnesses
saying that we saw any of these missing people speaking with somebody or at least anybody that was investig ated at
the time then we have the young girl who was abducted very likely in a busy section of town in broad daylight right
I still would like to know what was happening in that town the day she went missing yeah and so it's almost like do
you have a person that is if it's one offender is it someone that is seeking out crimes of opportunity seeking out
targets of opportunity taking themselves putting themselves in a situation where
there's a lot of people there's a lot of potential victims to choose from at these rodeos and then do we have
somebody that's driving around downtown looking for a potential victim or is it just something that this person stumbled
upon throughout the course of their day it also seems like the victims have similar looks as well yeah lot a lot of
even though you have a varying a age range here right you have they varying by not so much few years yeah so you
have a similar height similar appearance Caucasian brown hair brown eyes right um
regarding these cases though looking at them as if they were a hole being that they would be all
connected it seems kind of very obvious to me you know you mentioned the rodeos those ones seem obviously to be likely
connected again I'm still out in left field regarding Deborah's disappearance as we know so little about that case now
are you ready to open up the floodgates Captain am I yes I'm the captain all right I don't like
floods so we'll wait till next week okay all right but I do have to warn you you
open you can open them up I do have to warn you before we move forward you might want to put on your raincoat
because there's going to be some [ __ ] all right maybe I should put on my [ __ ]
coat we are going to fast forward to September 26th 1981 and move our location to Oklahoma City Oklahoma so 7
years after the for disappearances in Rollins and many miles Southeast of Rollins right 13-year-old Charlotte Jun
Kenzie and 13-year-old Cinda Jean pallet attended the Oklahoma State Fair in Oklahoma City both girls were
accompanied by their boyfriends they were dropped off at the fair around noon on that Saturday at about 5:00 p.m.
Charlotte called her family and told her family that she and Cinda were offered a
job by a Carney to help unload plush toys from a truck at the fair it was then that all four the two girls and two
boys left with an unknown man right this guy was sporting a yellow identification
workers badge now he took them to a truck stop off of I40 to meet the truck that they were going to unload right but
the truck was not there it was nowhere to be found so the man then gave the boys the two boys $10 and told them to
wait while he went to get the truck the man drove off with charlet and Cinda the
two 13-year-old girls were waving out the back window of the car to the two boys as the vehicle drove off the two
girls promised to call home again when it was time for them to be picked up from the fair but that call would never
come but here we have something captain that we didn't have in the cases we have
previously discussed here we have potential eyewitnesses the two boys right and these kids have some information to
offer up to the investigators first the man had shown the kids an ID badge and the ID badge
had the man's photo and name printed on it got him second before stopping off to
as you know they were told to unload this truck the man stopped along the way and purchased two pairs of gloves and
two rolls of duct tape and more importantly the two boys remembered the name on the ID badge it was Donald
Michael Corey by Wednesday September 30th with the girl still nowhere to be found and Donald Michael Corey also
nowhere to be found the police along with the FBI secured an arrest warrant for for Donald Michael Cory charging him
with two counts of kidnapping and the teletypes were sent out to police stations throughout multiple States as
The Manhunt for Donald Corey was now in full swing police could prove Corey was in the Oklahoma City area this is as
late as the day before the kidnapping when Cory checked himself into a hospital in that area now Cory suffered
pretty badly from an ulcer hospitals were a regular thing for him and we would see this as authorities began to
track Donald Cory's movements hoping to catch up with him as he seemed to be getting further and further away from
Oklahoma City Oklahoma State Police and the FBI got news from Jackson Mississippi that Donald Corey had
surfaced just briefly there where he used his ID and information to get demeral injections a painkiller he was
using in regards to his ulcer then on Friday October 99th 1981 Oklahoma State Police they get the big break that they
were looking for this is a call from the Greenville police in Alabama they wanted
to know if the warrant for Donald Cory was still standing well yes they were told and why are you asking they
responded because we have Donald Corey here at our police station he walked in earlier today and gave us his
information Corey was arrested now this is how this whole thing went down so yeah this is confusing yeah Corey went
to a First Baptist Church okay this was to apply for some assistance as he was not working and he's suffering from this
ulcer at the church Donald Cory provided all of his information using his real name driver's license and real
information well they have a system with the rules in Alabama and if you are applying for assistance and you have an
out of state driver's license or ID you then must go to the local police department where they will run a
background check right and then send you back to the church with the proper paperwork so that you then may file for
assistance well of course they didn't send Donald Corey back instead they called Oklahoma City and they very
shortly afterwards sent him to jail got him got him got him got him got him again got him again okay so Donald
Michael Cory the man with three first names yeah never trust a man with three first names or a guy that goes by a
nickname or only one name right I don't know what that means or well you could just go by a name and it could not be a
real name okay so just cuz we have this guy and has the same name as the name tag is this our guy because we do have
two eyewitnesses yeah that they could put him in a lineup and say hey is this the Donald is this the Donald Duck that
you're looking for well and remember police could prove that he was in town in Oklahoma City the day before less
than 24 hours before the Abduction of these two girls so now we have Oklahoma who wants to interview this guy either
in Alabama but most likely they want to bring him back to Oklahoma Cory seems somewhat Cooperative at first but tells
the investigators yes I was in Oklahoma City yeah and we will just say okay see yeah is that what the kids say going
forward so on September 25th he says he was in OKC when he went to the hospital for Demerol injections for that ulcer
but he says after the hospital he left the state that same day according to Donald Corey he was not in Oklahoma City
on the 26th when the two girls were abducted do do we know if he works for the like the state fair that's what's
tricky regarding this identific badge it seems to be that it was some type of work identification badge right but some
information that I found stated that it wasn't for that Fairgrounds that it wasn't in regards to
that exact area Okay police want to question him more but Cory gets a courta appointed attorney and he tells Corey to
shut his mouth and no longer speak with the police then quickly something started to fall apart for the
investigators first when Cory is arrested his vehicle does not match the vehicle the boys say the abductor was
driving so to be clear Donald Cory's vehicle that he's driving at the time of his arrest it's his vehicle it's titled
to him it's registered to him it's not like he's driving a stolen car or anything and the description of the
abductor vehicle it went it wasn't even a close match to Cory's car Donald Cory drove a green Oldsmobile station wagon
the boy said the abductor drove them to the truck stop in a 1980 or 1981 model Pontiac beige Grand Prix police in
Alabama analyze Cory's vehicle and there is also no indications that the two girls were ever in this vehicle it takes
a couple of days but Donald Cory is sent back to OKC there during the course of a lineup
both boys fail to correctly identify Donald Corey as having been the man that the two boys Saul driving away with the
girls don't got him don't got him then to make the case against Corey even weaker he finally tells police he was in
Dallas Texas the day the girls were abducted receiving a demeral injection from a doctor so not only does it appear
that Donald Cory has an ulcer or maybe he doesn't that is unclear however what is clear this is by Corey's own
admission he is addicted to demeral and he's looking to get one or two Demerol injections a day that's his thing and it
sounds like he was fairly good at achieving this goal because he is getting doctors to give him these
injections and often it's not all on the up and up and even though it was on the
down low these illegal injections in Dallas the day of the abductions Corey's attorney gets the doctor in Dallas to
back up Donald Cory's story providing him an alibi for the day and with that the charges against him and rightfully
so are dropped and he probably has no explanation of why this person would have a name tag with his name on it
other than he didn't have it in his possession he wasn't sure of when he had lost the ID badge right what a smart
idea grab a name badge with a picture and I'm going hey I'm going to hire you guys and then you take off with these
girls who cares that they saw you I mean they might be to pick you out of a lineup mhm but they're remembering that
badge name they're remembering the name yeah and it it's surprising too if it's actual if was actually Donald's picture
on the badge which it was lucky for him that they didn't remember that picture to pick him out of the lineup yeah
you're they could have they could have not even remembered the face and just remembered the picture and then went
it's that guy and then what do you do if you go well we got two people pick him out lineup but we have a doctor that's
giving him an alibi yeah and the thing here is it sounds like there was trouble getting that the doctor wasn't very
forthcoming you know it took some convincing by the attorney to get the doctor to come forward with this Alibi I
wonder if that's because of how much Dem morall they're giving him well it was an
illegal injection right well to this day Cinda pallet and charlot Kinsey they've
never been found at the time of her disappearance cind pallet was five foot tall and 88 pounds she is part Caucasian
part Hispanic and has brown hair and brown eyes Cinda has a small scar below the corner of her left eyebrow her
collar bone was previously broken but healed at the time or before the time she vanished at the time of her
disappearance she wore a dental retainer behind her lower front teeth she was last seen wearing jeans a white T-shirt
jersey with dark blue sleeves and the words zzy top on the front and 88 on the back she was also wearing Nike sneakers
at the time of Charlotte's disappearance she was 5T to 5' 1 in tall and weighed 100 to 105 lb she had blonde hair and
blue eyes she has a small dot-shaped scar below her left eye caused by pencil lead Charlotte has silver caps on her
lower front teeth and pierced ears she also has a triangular-shaped birth mark on her lower back near the waist
Baseline she was last seen wearing a white blouse with maroon Stripes blue jeans and sneakers if you have any
information regarding the whereabouts of Cinda pallet or Charlotte Kinsey please
call the Oklahoma Police missing persons unit at 405 29712 n or call Crim Stoppers at 405
23573 callers to Crim Stoppers can remain anonymous and may be eligible for cash
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Back in 1974 the town of Rawlins, Wyoming experienced a terrifying summer as four females disappeared in just seven weeks. The ages ranged from ten to nineteen. The two older victims were last seen at the rodeo on the fourth of July. One girl seemed to have vanished into thin air as she was last seen walking in the busy part of town in broad daylight. 10 year old Jayleen Banker went missing from a different rodeo. The investigations provided no answers and no leads. The town of Rawlins was rocked and left to wonder what was happening to their girls. This week we take a deep dive into what is known today as the Rawlins Rodeo Murders. Beer of the Week - Citradonkulous by Wiley Roots Brewing Garage Grade - 4 and a quarter bottle caps out of 5

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the Rollins Rodeo murders and other child abductions in Wyoming and Oklahoma, highlighting unresolved cases and missing persons.

Key points

The Rollins Rodeo Murders. A cautionary tale about the tragic disappearance of two young women in Wyoming.
Mysterious Disappearances. Two 19-year-old girls vanish after a rodeo, leading to a chilling investigation.
Deborah Ray Meer's Disappearance. A 14-year-old girl goes missing while visiting family, raising many questions.
The Disappearance of Jayen Baker. 10-year-old Jayen Baker went missing after a rodeo, leading to a massive search effort.
The Discovery of Jayen's Body. Eight months later, Jayen's body was found, raising more questions than answers.
The Kidnapping of Charlotte and Cinda. Two 13-year-old girls were last seen leaving a fair with an unknown man.

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This case may have started in Rollins, Wyoming back in the mid-1970s.

Introduction to the Rollins Rodeo murders

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