The Murder of Aliza Sherman /// Part 4 /// 170 | Forensic Files

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round grab a chair grab some eggnog let's talk some true crime [Music] I want to start off by going through
some things that took place in the Elisa Sherman case this year in 2017. so when
this year rolled in just under four years after the murder of 53 year old Elisa Sherman the case remained unsolved
despite investigators best efforts and billboards Seeking Justice for Elisa and a circle of family and friends who kept
her memory alive in the case alive Elisa Sherman's daughter Jennifer she has led marches vigils and benefits in
her mother's name and worked to become an advocate for women who face domestic abuse and filed a civil suit against her
father yeah nothing causes more tension than family suing family and when we left off with episode three we were
talking about Gregory Moore Gregory Moore was Elisa's attorney who had been charged with inducing panic as far as
calling in three different bomb threats right and as well as he has been indicted on charges that may pertain to
elise's cases remember the investigator stated that this guy he's got some questions to answer and hopefully that
stuff will come out in court the investigators are wondering why Gregory Moore would not talk with them if he
didn't have anything to hide why would he not speak with them right but they also caught him in a couple lies yes so
Gregory Moore he originally faced up to three years in prison for all of these charges but after what I'm sure was some
kind of deal that was struck because he originally faced a lot more charges than this Moore ended up
pleading guilty to felony inducing panic and misdemeanor falsification charges for the phony statements given to the
police a Cuyahoga County Judge imposed the sentence this was of 180 days and the sentence also included three years
of Probation and 350 hours of community service once more was released from the Cuyahoga County Jail
so Gregory Moore was to report to jail on June 1st of this year and serve 90 days of his 180 days in prison so
they're going to split in half let him serve the first part and then the second part well after that the judge ordered
him to spend one full week in jail in each of the following 12 months okay and while he would be out he would be
monitored by GPS uh when he's not in jail why does he get why they give him special privileges this serve your 180
days and be done with it the judge told more during the court proceedings you've
taken everything in an attorney stands for and turned it upside down I agree 100 with that I don't fully
agree with the with the sentence here the sentence almost to me makes as little sense as the bomb threats that he
called in right okay so it sounds to me with that statement that the judge would like to
hold more to some kind of I mean how do you how do you make that statement and not hold him to a higher
standard because he's basically a clerk of the court almost I mean he's an attorney he's taken an oath with the
state of Ohio and the some of the charges actually all of the charges that he's involved in
are some form of obstruction of justice right calling in the bomb threats to delay Court proceedings lying to your
client lying to the police well not to mention the wasted taxpayer money for you know
having to move the court dates to close down those courts yeah and I think the thing here is I
think this more guy got off easy I mean he really he kind of begged and pleaded with the court saying you know I'm a
family man now I'm married I have a one-year-old I don't know if he has a son or daughter but he has a
one-year-old child and to me I don't understand this I think you either throw the book at him
or I it just makes no sense to me and the thing is why not just like you said either serve just make him serve the
sentence and be done with it right right instead of this hey you can come back one week out of every month of the
following year and serve serve one week and then we're gonna let you out and then you come back
for another week weird right but weird stuff right but we have a lawyer that uh works for you know
a pretty successful uh Law Firm they do big you know probably multi-multi-million dollar divorces
and he's white so that's why they gave him a break hey you served 90 days and then we'll break
it up a week each month well I don't know that I want to get into the head of the judge and say that's why he was
leaning on him I mean the guy lost his license to practice law in the state of Ohio or he should have right well
exactly well so that therefore he's upon the sentencing he's no longer an attorney with anyone now Gregory Moore
ignored questions from reporters as he entered and exited the courtroom during those proceedings he apologized to his
family and said he regrets daily his actions that have affected people that are here with us today and people that
are not Gregory Moore never mentioned Elisa Sherman by name or he never apologized to her family either right
because the guy's a piece of [ __ ] so I mean he's a liar and he's not going to take responsibility for any involvement
he had in her death now regarding the uh and I don't know that this is what it was in fact called
because I think her name has a hyphen in it now but regarding the Sherman versus
Sherman lawsuit where Jennifer argued funds belonged to Eliza's estate since she was the sole proprietor of the
account and had this issue been resolved in court it may have belonged to Eliza upon the divorce right Sanford contended
that the funds were considered marital assets used for supporting the family and therefore never belongs solely to
Eliza four months after Jennifer filed the suit against Samford her older brother
Josh filed a motion to remove her as co-executor of elise's estate in the motion he alleged his sister had a
separate agenda she viewed Samford as a person of interest in the death of their mother and therefore could not act
on behalf of Eliza's estate without bias right which makes some sense but you got a family that's already gone
through a bunch you know before the murder took place and now you have this murder and now you
have a a house even more divided because it seems to me that she believes that her father was
responsible in some way and it seems like her brothers do not uh share that same feeling
well Josh eventually dropped his claim in um he eventually dropped this claim after
the lawsuit was filed okay then in December of 2017 so just this month all sides agreed to settle the civil suit so
Samford Sherman agreed to pay 110 000 to Elisa's estate with the stipulation that Jennifer would forever
release and discharge him from any claims they might make in the future Jennifer agreed to samford's stipulation
with one addendum if in the future he is convicted of any criminal offense related to her mother's
death she reserves the right to renew her fight and make further claims against him
okay this is it pretty interesting though bits unpacked though I mean so he's given her a very very small percent
of what really she's fighting for but he is saying hey um and this agreement works and she's
saying well the only way it doesn't work is if we can convict you of this crime right right if he's ever facing any type
of criminal charges regarding her case you know he doesn't necessarily have to be convicted of murder or anything like
that we're talking about Gregory Moore just lying to Elisa and lying to police is convicted of a criminal charge uh
regarding elise's case so right so if he you know if her father lied to law enforcement then that's
enough for her to reopen up her case yeah or lied in any of the depositions that he gave in the lawsuit case in
regards to discussing information between him and his wife and dealings between him and his uh now deceased wife
yeah this just seems like a case that has so many twists and turns that you can't even make up I mean you're gonna
write this well I don't know that I agree with the twists and turns and the reason why there's twists and turns is
because the way that they come out in the way that they're eventually presented to the public when you really
nail this story down there were not a lot of twists and turns along the way and what I mean by that are there are
two things one a lot of the things that were going on between Eliza and her husband came out during the lawsuit that
came out well after she was killed okay these were all things that both of them knew that they were dealing with both of
them knew that they were going on and happenings that were taking place for the most part that Elisa knew about and
for the most part that that Samford knew about right this just didn't come out to
the public until after she was murdered these are things that would have very likely have come out during the divorce
proceedings the other thing is these bomb threats technically he made all three of those
bomb threats during the course of working her case well before it ever went to trial in 2013. he he did that
last Bob that threat Gregory Moore did in July of 2012. this thing was not going to go to trial until March of 2013
March 25th or 26th right so that was old news now the thing that is the twist and turn that comes out in
this is that the attorney is not where he said he would be on that day that's the Twist
and that's the turn for me that's the big one it seems like Samford was um cooperating with police in the
beginning it seems like Gregory Moore was cooperating with police in the beginning
I think that a lot of the reasoning why Samford probably stopped cooperating with police was at some
point he was facing a lawsuit he has a whole other case to deal with yeah and probably you know his attorneys probably
advised him too damn it right well yeah yeah they would advise him to say let's focus on this
lawsuit we can deal with the police once this stuff is over with and furthermore as far as Gregory Moore
goes that that's that's the Twist and Turn he agreed with the he he agreed to cooperate with police in the beginning
why that was just to make him look like he was doing what he said he was doing it wasn't until he was presented with
evidence that he was not in fact doing what he was saying he was doing that that he decided hey he clammed up and
said nope not talking anymore well he seems like such a chronic liar and you know I'm going to lie about these bomb
you know calling these bomb threats to get out of my job get out of my responsibilities I'll talk to the police
I'm not going to give them correct information I can lie my way out of this but they caught him in the LIE where
this leaves us is this Gregory Moore denies having anything to do with elise's murder and he is technically not
considered a suspect Sanford Sherman denies having anything to do with elise's murder as well and again not
technically considered a suspect police won't say they will not say whether the divorce attorney and Elisa's husband
have any ties together so who is the person in the hooded jacket caught on surveillance video cops
could never identify who that was my thoughts samford's friend describes the murder to a T with that perfect
murder plot described to him from his friend Samford was at home and I put a question
mark by that Jennifer and Jeremy's statements state that Samford was at home at 7 45 pm
the body type is not the same as the person seen in the video so Sanford is his body type yeah correct
could Samford have hired someone to kill his wife and potentially save him two million dollars or who knows how much
more money yes it's very possible um but when I sit here when I try to look at these two suspects and wonder who was
involved in this case and who was not I often wonder would Samford have even known where Elisa would have been
when she was killed three people lived in the Samford house that day and Jeremy did not know where
Elisa was going that day and how about this perfect murder situation okay so the perfect murder is
not just getting away with murder not just setting things up and putting them into place so that you can kill
someone and the police never be able to tie it to you or have enough evidence to
put you away no in my opinion the perfect murder is killing someone getting away with it and then getting
someone else to take the fall that way you don't have the Shadow on you for the rest of your days
I think it's possible that maybe what Gregory Moore went for or may have gotten away with of course no one took
the fall but maybe he thought there was enough of a history with Eliza and her husband that the police and the general
public would never look beyond that right because like always the number one suspect is the you know normally the
husband and like we said earlier Moore was originally scheduled to meet with Elisa on Saturday the day before she was
killed I stated that I'm uncertain if that meeting actually occurred but one thing
we do know is he Gregory Moore was the one that scheduled the meeting for Sunday the day she was killed now he was
pushing the meeting back that day according to these text messages it's possible they met on Saturday and then
he asked for additional time with her on Sunday or pushed Saturday's meeting to Sunday right right and either way I mean
I don't think that really matters I mean because if he I don't think you're saying that he
would actually do the crime himself is that what you're saying about Gregory well I'll take you through this
because what I want to point out here is regardless he scheduled the meeting he pushed the time back on Sunday he told
Elisa he was in his office when he clearly was not he told the police the same the police have some evidence pointing
them to the fact that Moore was in his office until an hour before and then back in his office an hour after the
murder so for roughly a 60-minute window he is gone from his office during the time
that he told Elisa and the police that he was in his office and then she is killed out front during that same time
frame and while I think Samford would be someone that you should possibly look at as someone that would
hire a hit on his wife the Gregory Moore guy strikes me as more of a DM wire a do murder yourself kind
of guy he called in those bomb threats himself dumb enough to use his own cell phone
then he uses his cell to communicate with Elisa minutes before her death lying about where he was
and here's the thing if he We're The Hitman hiring type well then why not just be in
your office that's a great Alibi I was in my office for a for our scheduled meeting right I went downstairs to
unlock the door to let her in and then I heard her screams I rushed outside I found her bleeding badly on the sidewalk
I comforted her and I called 9-1-1 the perfect Alibi if he were to hire someone more is not that smart then we have the
scenario and I know a lot of people are thinking this because they just can't let go of the husband did it Theory the
thought is well maybe the husband hired the the attorney to kill Eliza or hired the attorney to find someone to kill
Eliza the problem I have with that Samford is not that dumb that my friends is the plan of a [ __ ]
right I'll call or talk to my wife's divorce divorce attorney and ask him to assist me in her murder okay here's your
case on a silver platter and oh and not only will you have a successful case for the divorce where my
wife gets all of the money and everything we own I'll have to go to prison as well
Sanford is a retired very successful doctor that's not him that's not the plan that
this guy makes then the question for more becomes being a prime suspect is motive what
could be his motive his motive may have just be as dumb as this that he was unprepared for court and he killed her
right well that's a stretch a lot of people would say I don't think so he called in
three bomb threats on three separate occasions to government buildings let me throw this scenario at you
it that's a felony my friends and and had someone picture this he calls in this box right now that's a felony had
someone an elderly man or woman had a heart attack when they started evacuating the building that day well Mr
lawyer boy would have been charged with the death of that individual during during the course of committing a felony
the other thing here with Gregory Moore and this is not very scientific but there is something severely off about
this guy I've stared at his picture and I've looked at a lot of bad people's photos and he gives me that same very
bad feeling that I cannot put my finger on it bad feeling that I get when I see a bad person I just feel that he is the
evil coward that they are looking for I think Jennifer and the Sherman family should file some type of wrongful death
suit against him heck you were awarded some of that money from the lawsuit that would be a really
good use for it and I think there are things in investigatively that will be that could be done that you
may not be able to do in criminal proceedings through the local law enforcement that may bring something to
light where you can see charges brought against this weasel Gregory Moore [Music]
all right cheers mates happy holidays cheers happy holidays so I guess my question for you is looking at this
footage and it's roughly about a minute long footage they have of the surveillance tape and if you want to go
check that out it's right on the home page of True Crime garage.com uh also there's clips of that on our Instagram
at True Crime garage now looking at this we can pull up and watch the videotape but we do have at
least images of Gregory Moore and we do have images of the husband right Sanford Sherman so my question to
you and and listeners as well so does any of these to either of these two individuals fit
what we're seeing on the surveillance camera I I definitely Sanford does not fit what
I see on the surveillance camera I cannot rule out Gregory Moore I don't think that uh the surveillance
camera provides enough detail as far as height and weight for me to rule him out
his body type is not um totally off in my opinion he seems a little thicker than the individual and
the footage to me possibly if but but the thing that I try to remind myself is when we look at this
what assumptions are we making about the coat or the jacket or the hoodie that's
being worn in the surveillance are we are we looking at this thing and going well this is adding padding and it's
adding weight and it's adding size to this person there's a chance it's not adding much to
this person at all I I just okay and here's another problem that I go back to regarding this surveillance
footage and I and I kind of forgot to bring this up the other day when we were discussing it
where does this person come from yeah yeah I don't have any cameras that freaking bothers me like you wouldn't
believe and I'll tell you what there has to be footage uh more footage than this well I guarantee you that
rumor that was going around that there's actual camera footage of the murder I believe that that's the case and of
course they're not going to release that it doesn't help anybody in the public to
see that no but they can do certain things to figure out what the size of the individual is but not only height
but width right and I think that would be a big help right right but the other thing again I'm going back to where did
this person come from and I think that could help the investigation in some form because
look we're we're shown footage of this person obviously fleeing the scene they're going this person's either
running to a building going to run to hiding somewhere or run to a vehicle right where did this person come from
this person I'm guessing this person did not come from the same same direction there are cameras all over this section
of downtown Cleveland there is very likely footage of this individual arriving to the crime scene and then
attacking her and then fleeing I just I can't figure out where this person came from and that's the other that's the
problem I have with the attorney I look he put her there at that exact time he delayed her leaving there at that exact
time he left his office roughly an hour before in an hour afterwards I think I said a 60 Minute window that's incorrect
that would be about an hour and 20 minute window I'm sorry I'm still screwing that up that's a
two-hour window let's say let's say it's roughly a two hour window maybe two and
a half hours at that well it's you know this is a good holiday beer that's the perfect amount of time to to pretend to
be in your office to get her to go there leave change into this disguise Run come
running from God knows where attack her flee the scene returning to I'm guessing a vehicle or another
building or something like that and changing out of those clothes and returning to your office it's the
perfect amount of time and here's the other problem whether you think it's the perfect
amount of time or not I don't need you to agree with me the problem is this where the hell were you if you're
innocent of this attack you would think you would be screaming it from the mountaintops going all right I lied to
her I went to IHOP and I had uh I had a stack of pancakes like you wouldn't believe I was just being ignorant I
didn't have anything to discuss with her I was avoiding I was avoiding the meeting or not only here's the receipt
just say you were someplace else just give us some damn place that you were I was in a park bench nobody saw me nobody
saw me leave nobody saw me arrive nobody saw me I was in a place where nobody could see me I was in the middle of a
field out in the middle of nowhere give us some explanation other than going I was in my office well sir we can prove
you were not at that time right okay well I'm not talking to you anymore all right but law enforcement has to do
you know I don't want to say a better job because I don't think that's fair but that you know now that he's not
talking to you that's the cat and mouse game right here's here's something interesting that I want to bring up on
this footage now this is the of the video I posted again that's at truecrime garage.com 55 seconds we're pretty clear
that this is some kind of vehicle um so 55. it looks like a four-door sedan let's say to give you a size idea
of what we're looking at this individual is clearly taller than this car well yeah yeah and and like I said
before I was thinking maybe that this uh suspect is five four five five which would rule out a lot of women
but here I think this clearly states that my initial thoughts are wrong the size of those shoulders in comparison to
the height of the rooftop of that vehicle makes me believe this would be a a person a man a male of somewhat
average size right and so again you know like I said I think this individual runs
like a girl but so does Steven Seagal right so and here's another thing too is if you
notice all the pictures of uh more right he kind of has this uh rounded back everything's
rounded back uh not so much there I pull up a picture that but he kind of has this rounded
back and you can clearly see when the when the individual is running away when you see the key assigned and you
see the Valvoline sign when you see it running away you can clearly see more of a rounded back yeah I'm convinced it's
him I mean I'll go on the record saying that I think it was him I think he did it
himself and I think that for reasons we may never understand I don't think he was hired by
by uh elise's husband at all to do this I I really just I mean there's there's nothing that doesn't point to him for me
now that would be a Twist and Turn it's the distraction I think I think the things that people think point away from
him they're just distractions they're not technically things that point away from him they're just like weird
suspicions that you have about the husband all things that we pointed out through along this way I think people
get clouded with everything going on with the husband I think that the divorce really clouds things right there
you're really talking about when you boil it down regarding Samford the only motive he has is money you know some
people well but that's two million reasons no no no I get that I get that but we've also learned that that he
occurred over eight hundred thousand dollars in transfer fees and penalties when he moved that money around so now
we're talking about 1.2 million right right and I get I get it people have killed people for less money right I
totally get it but the thing what I'm getting at is when people go well he was a bad husband he was a abusive he he had
relationships outside the marriage and he wanted the money the problem I have with that is when you boil it down to it
the only motive he has is money get rid of all those other problems that took place during the marriage because guess
what in two days his marriage was over in two days his marriage was over running around behind his wife's back
not a motive he was going to be free to date whoever he wanted in a couple days uh-huh you know being a jerk and being
abusive and being probably unhappy himself in his home life that's over in two days for him the only motive he has
at this point is money all right so with the with the husband right yeah the big
motive is money then the other thing too is this conversation of the perfect murder the
problem I have with this whole idea is he's not the one that came up with the idea of what the perfect murder is you
know it's it's some conversation that he's having with a friend and also it's a friend of a law enforcement it's just
not so it's not like he went you know he hung out with his buddy that's a dry cleaner and he's like hey man how do you
think you could get away with the perfect murder right there are some people and you know this is like our
whole lives has become True Crime I'm drinking beer at a local pub you know and and somebody goes what do you do for
a living well you know I got the show about true crime and they go oh the what do you think about JonBenet Ramsey you
know it's like normally when people are trying to start conversation they they go towards your area of
expertise right so he didn't come up with this idea and he also didn't even admit to having this conversation so I
don't know about that well in In fairness he wasn't even asked if he had directly if he in fact had this
conversation okay and the thing here is and you you hit something on something very important and very key here
we were not present for the entirety of that conversation where the quote-unquote perfect murder scenario is
discussed there were several different reports giving this discussion one of them says
a couple of them say that this conversation happened on more than one occasion right there are others that
state that it was only a one-time conversation so we don't know which is correct but let's say this and I think
you hit on something very important here I'm guessing that because he's a doctor
he's quite a bit smarter than the old Nick sitting here in the garage that couldn't even figure out that an hour
before and an hour after a murder is two hours not one hour hey to be fair you have drank way more than your share of
beer so the thing I'm getting at is he's probably wrong he could be an intellectual and he may have just been
having what he considered to be an intellectual conversation with somebody that works in the law enforcement field
what if at the beginning of that conversation his friend in law enforcement says you know we were
investigating that we investigated that thing years ago and it it was almost like the perfect murder and he goes
well how would one commit the perfect murder right or why is that a perfect murder you know it could have been
talking about something outside of that yeah and I think and then the other point that I think the public really
gets cloudy as far as the husband goes is that you have one of his one of his children is not really on his
side it's not team Dad where the other children are coming right out during the memorial and saying hey look my father
had nothing to do with this and you want to protect your father I mean but you know that your father is going to get
questioned by the police he obviously was cooperating with the police we both agree he lowered lowered up that's fine
but the fact that the daughter is you know still against him but in all fairness she was against him probably
three four years before this yeah it seems like they had had a falling out like you said three or four years at
some point I believe it's she points to 2010 or 2011 when she had totally disowned her father and I'm with you I
think then the other question is how would he know where she's going to be there's a chance he didn't even know
that okay all right this this is one thing that I can't I have a problem getting over remember we talked about
the scenario where he claims where Samford claims to and he did tell friends that he believed that she had
purchased some kind of recording device and was recording their conversations trying to get him to do something fly
off the handle and then use it against him later right from my understanding in these
depositions Samford did end up he ended up purchasing his own recording device now Eliza made a statement to either one
of her friends or a relative that she believes she was being recorded when she was at home without Samford having been
there because she thought from time to time he was quoting things that she said while on the phone with friends or
relatives when he was not in the room or not at home so that's how he could know if she in
fact had a phone call with her her lawyer right then possibly he could have overheard
that and then the other situation is we know that she had a phone call with her friend
a couple days in advance because the friend offered to go to the meeting with her where Elisa said no I don't need to
go with you right the problem with that though is if you hire somebody to kill her for that meeting that you overheard
when you're recording with some pen device or whatever you purchased and you leave it in the kitchen or in her office
or whatever this meeting kept it keeps getting moved right it keeps getting moved when you
don't know if somebody's going to go with it or not it's almost being moved up to the point of just within hours of
the crime going down so so what is he on a on the phone constantly with the guy he hired going wait hold on I think the
meeting just got moved and then think about the chances of how many times she would he would have missed those
additional conversations moving that meeting and a lot of this communication from my understanding some of it took
place via text message he would have heard nothing right he would have no way of tracing that the meeting got moved to
that time period yeah so then we go back to uh I questioned that he that he even
knew where she would be at that time on that day and then furthermore here's the
other thing who do you hire to kill her unless you hire somebody that knows her well
there's problems with your target too I know it sounds crazy but it has happened
in the past where a husband or somebody has hired somebody a complete stranger to kill somebody and they end up killing
the wrong person you're talking about a murder that's committed on a downtown street now I know that the downtown
Cleveland can be you know a little quiet uh probably on a Sunday evening but but
still he could this individual could have totally attacked the wrong person oh definitely I guess the only way that
Samford pulls it off in my mind is if he hired someone to not just kill her kill
her but instructed that individual or the individual was smart enough to follow her for an extended period of
time and wait and pick his pick his moment right right the problem with that is if everybody's doing what they say
they're going to do and if everybody's who they are at the end of the day then when this individual killed Elisa
Sherman was about the same time the exact same moment that her attorney should have been standing at that
entrance way holding the door open for her waiting to get his client in out of the cold
right but that lawyer was never there right so if it is if it if it is the husband the part that doesn't make a lot
of sense is she would have been in that office building right right like if everything went as
planned the door would have been open she would have been but the lawyer wasn't there yeah we don't
know where the lawyer was the lawyer's Story the lawyer didn't even hear her screams because he wasn't there right he
was gone for there was an individual that wasn't terribly close to her that heard her screams and we know that he
runs like Steven Seagal we don't know that for sure we're just assuming personally I think that the
police and the investigators think that Gregory Moore did it too that's why I don't mind saying that I really believe
that it was him yeah and you can you can kind of hear that in the trailer from yesterday when they kind of say he's
going to be charged he's going to be charged in three different counties for those crimes he's gonna you know Justice
will be served there that's what they say and they say that they think that more answers are going to come out while
he's in court well he ends up pleading guilty in the end for this and I think it's because he didn't want to have to
give certain statements that would go on record yeah because I think some of it is just he can't keep track of his own
lies let me throw this at you too don't throw it too hard and this is why I and this is an inference that I'm
making but I this is what points to me that the investigators firmly believe he's suspect a number one and we all
know and you know forget this idea that well they've never named him as a suspect or a person of interest screw
that they don't do that most smart police departments and law enforcement agencies don't do that anymore they name
somebody a suspect after they've slapped the cuffs on them and they're sitting in
a jail cell preparing for the trial okay right this is why I think that he's the
number one suspect in in proof to me of that because he looks like a penis with a bad haircut yeah and
the thing is he committed that last bomb threat on jul in July of 2012 right right it was within days that the law
enforcement were had tracked him down and were convinced that it was him that had called in that bomb threat so he was
charged with this thing fairly early after the third bomb threat he was slated to go to court and face those
charges in December of 2013. well what happened before he could go to court for those bomb threats
his his client is killed in front of his office in March right they didn't go to
trial in December when did they end up going to trial for this thing they end up going to trial for it this year in
2017. they end up going to trial for three and a half years later right so not and this this is why this is why this
makes him the number one suspect multiple motives well no but listen to this if if you were suspected of having
committed multiple criminal Acts and I'm investigating those criminal acts but I suspect you of others I can
kind of investigate those while I'm looking into these bomb threats and while I get that warrant to search your
office and get that warrant to search your home and your car I can get those for the bomb threats you called in even
though because you have to have evidence you have to be able to convince a judge
that you deserve a warrant to look for items regarding the murder of Elisa Sherman right you might not have that
evidence you might not have reason to do that and I think that's why they waited
to to bring it to trial for so long so that they could look into them for other angles
the thing is I think police have done their due diligence here I think they have done as much well I shouldn't say
as much as they can I think they're having problems putting him there at that scene I think they're having
problems putting him in that disguise and running from her her dying body and that's the only thing stopping them
from from bringing this to murder charges against this guy that's why I would love to see if it's possible I
don't know the ins and outs of this but if she's at a scheduled meeting that you
kept changing the time for and you lie to her saying you were there and you're not there and she dies on your doorstep
right I there's got to be on your locked door there's got to be a way to file some
kind of wrongful death lawsuit against this individual or and or against his Law Firm
that he worked for at the time and therefore it opens up the doors to further investigating this guy as
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Cleveland, Ohio - Sunday, March 24, 2013- Aliza Sherman a 53 year old mother of four stepped out into the cold to run some errands. She promised her youngest sons she would not be gone very long and she would return home with dinner. Hours and hours went by. Jeremy tried calling his mother's cell but she did not answer. Then he called his older sister Jennifer. Jeremy explained to Jennifer that their mother had been gone too long and he could not reach her. Jennifer tried many times to get her mother on the phone to no avail. Jennifer decided to take the search to the streets and look for her mother. Before she could locate Aliza the Cleveland Police Department notified Jennifer that they would like to speak with the Sherman family. It was then that detectives notified the family that Aliza Sherman had been killed in downtown Cleveland in broad daylight.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses updates in the Elisa Sherman murder case, focusing on attorney Gregory Moore's legal issues and family disputes over her estate.

Key points

Elisa Sherman's Unsolved Case. Four years after her murder, the case remains unsolved despite efforts for justice.
Gregory Moore's Sentencing. Elisa's attorney, Gregory Moore, pleads guilty to charges related to bomb threats.
Settlement of the Sherman Lawsuit. Jennifer Sherman settles a civil suit against her father for $110,000.
The Mystery of the Surveillance Footage. Discussion about the limitations of surveillance footage in identifying suspects.
Unraveling Motives. Analyzing the motives behind the murder and the suspect's actions.
The Perfect Murder Theory. Exploration of the concept of the perfect murder and its implications.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

Nothing causes more tension than family suing family.

Discussion about family dynamics in the case.

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Tension

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