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weirdos happy holidays and you guys thank you so much for making us the most listen to show on Amazon music you guys
[ __ ] rule that was Unreal truly Rule and you know what growing up one of our holiday traditions together was watching
The Wizard of Oz as a whole fam so we couldn't think of a more fitting way to spend today than to revisit the fan
favorite episode 281 the Dark Side of The Wizard of Oz take a trip with us over the actual rainbow and hear about
its unsettling history and the actual Peril that the actors went through to create one of History's Greatest classic
films enjoy the holiday break you guys and we will be back on Thursday ho ho ho Mary
ashas hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this is growing your own [Music] lofos no I'm totally kidding it's
actually morbid it is um but I was just watching a Tik Tok about growing your own loofah and I really want to grow my
own loofah now Ash got real invest you know how some Tik toks are one minute and some are like 45 minutes and a half
yeah I was on one of those ones that's 45 and A2 minutes not actually I think it's like the max is three but it feel I
was going to say I think it's three but it feels long just being hyperbolic but anyways I just saw one of those really
long Tik TOs and this guy was growing his own loofah he grew a couple of them and then he was like peeling it which
looked really satisfying like I was like I want to do that and then he took the whole thing out and it was like gigantic
I was like you could cut that in half put one in your kitchen sink put one in your shower and I was really thinking
about that but then I was like kind of looks like it would hurt on your body she did she when I say she had all of
those stops and she had them all out loud I can vouch for that most of my thoughts happened out loud when I met
Alina it was a fun little process to watch it I always love someone like having an argument with themselves and
then like coming to a conclusion with both sides of their brain like both sides of the argument that happened in
their brain come together I don't know if I even came to a conclus come to a conclusion yet but I I believe in you we
had to start working so I'll come to a conclusion later today and I guess I'll let you guys know next episode yeah if
I'm going to grow my own loofah or not cuz what we've come down to I think is that you were concerned it wasn't going
to feel good and then you said on my skin no he said on my body on my body I don't think it would feel good on my
body like it looks rough like it looks like I'd be like it looks almost like um like a pmus stone it does which feels
good on your foot but you're not going to pum a stone your shoulder exfoliation station is where we are but like these
days I guess you're not even supposed to exfoliate as much as I used to think I feel like everything's stupid yeah me as
well but anyways I don't even know the climate in which you're supposed to grow alofa so I guess we can just move on
yeah we'll move on from this we'll figure it out don't worry we'll update you you
know are you on drugs right now are you all right and I'm like no I'm on life and the answer is no we are not say no
to drugs but you know it's just it's the holiday week it's the holiday season it's almost Thanksgiving I'm going to
eat a lot of food I'm excited I'm going to be cooking today like crazy I'm hosting doing Thanksgiving I'm doing
Thanksgiving so it's going to be it's going to be interesting I'm particularly excited about your your pumpkin and Sage
pasta your are you making the pesto bread that I requested am cuz I make it excited about that and I'm honestly two
more things I'm also really excited about the sausage stuffing oh yeah and um the strucel the sweet potato
casserole yeah you're all invited see you there and you know what I'll post some recipes cuz they're all recipes I
found on like the interwebs so I I'll post some recipes in case anybody any of that sounds good it does uh but yeah I'm
excited I love I like cooking a turkey I like doing a little herb butter rub underneath the skin all up in there how
do you feel about going into like the cavity oh I mean that's my job so it is but how do you feel about it the same I
feel about my job oh yeah yeah I thought you meant like it's your job cuz you're
cooking tury literally is my job to go into like cavities that no one else wants to go into yeah describe your job
and a really weird way you go first I guess yeah there it is I'll go first I cut dead things off of people
yeah so it's just kind of mine as well it's a turkey it's easier I think do you put um like lemons or likees let let me
let you let you all know in case you're wondering you got to put a little Citrus
in there I got put a little bouquet of herbs maybe some time some Rosary some parsley yeah you got to you got to
really get the aromatics in there and you also rub it in Salt right yeah that's a brining process some people dry
brine some people don't brine at all do it's really up to everybody I I've brinded before do you even brine you
even bro she doesn't even brine here did you even brine bro yeah and you want to
put some like garlic and onion in there like really get it going do you ever uh do you put a shallot in there yeah oh I
love we love a shot we love a jean shallot in there and the really important thing is basting my dudes base
that gosh darn Bird that's important even if you cook like a chicken yeah Bas the hell out of it Bas forever it makes
a difference even when I make like chicken breastesses I Bas them you got to base that [ __ ] it it works but you
know that's been a Thanksgiving with us lofas and thanksgivings with Ash and Elena so we're right on target here I
think we're right on Brent True Crime uh True Crime you know lofas and CRI and turkeys uh but yeah today's also going
to be kind of like a different episode a little bit it's like we're in the dark spookiness but this is like a different
one I feel we've never really done anything like this particularly I'm very excited I'm pretty excited so let me
we'll we'll start this off the proper way yeah so I Elena um that's you that's me I have been obsessed with the wizard
of oz since I was a little little girl uh I used to literally have to dress up like Dorothy every time I watched it uh
I had the ruby red slippers had the outfit my mom would braid my hair I know every line of that movie I watched a
100,000 times it's adorable so that was like my jam when I was little and I was always wondering when I should allow the
girls to get into it cuz like I'm weird and like I I watched a lot of [ __ ] that
I was like wow I can't believe that didn't traumatize me such as Lain but maybe it did I don't know the girls of
watch Labyrinth and they love it but uh but but where's it a Oz you know some people I remember Drew was saying the
monkeys freaked him out and I remember John was like no the flying monkeys are like scary and I was like I don't know
guys yeah it's funny because I thought I don't know men that they were I men that's how I usually feel just kidding
um I always thought that like they were a little bit scary but then they are in watching it with the girls I realized
I've only seen it once that's wild to me that's really wild I only watched it one
time and then it's not that I didn't like it I think I just like didn't really get that F you Vibe with it or
you don't like it's it's a I think it's like one of those things you watch it and you're either like wow this is my
entire personality now or you're like eh maybe I'll watch it again someday yeah see I watched Coyote Ugly when I was
little and I felt like that was my entire personality and I people I feel that is You're The Wizard of Oz and I'm
Coyote Ugly yeah I think those honestly describe us pretty well yeah yeah but you know I I was worried I didn't know I
was like it's five good and then this past Halloween a couple of people in their dance class and their school had
Dorothy costumes and I was like oh and they were like what's that about oh people are people are watching wizard
ofos but I was like I don't know and they came home one day and we like I really liked that outfit yeah who's
Dorothy can you so I started explaining it to them and this is how I usually introduce movies that I'm not quite sure
if they're ready for yet like Labyrinth I did this too we talk about it a lot talk about like the plot we talk about
it we talk about the story and then what I'll do is I'll show them little clips of it every now and I'll like at this
fun clip of them in the Dairy forest with the with the winged monkeys and I'm like do you like that and they're like
that's cool and I was like all right we're here so after a few days of that I was like let's do this we had like they
were so excited we sat down as a family we watched the wiard ofas I was in my glory like I was when we watched
Labyrinth it's those are my favorite things about being a parent is like showing them those things you're like oh
I watch love it you relive your childhood like the happiness and like like memories from your childhood you
see it through their eyes and so we sat down we watched it they adored it they watched it how many times since then
probably a hundred times and it's only been like two weeks like I feel like a terrible aunt but yesterday one of them
was like tit will you watch that with me and I was like oh you want to watch like
anything else yeah you're like I literally can meanwhile I'm like let's watch it again but and of course while
we're watching it I immediately was like guys who's your favorite like you got to
have a favorite of the gang you know so I I knew that my little feral middle child was going to love the Cowardly
Lion yep cuz she herself is a lion she loves Lions not cowardly but a lion not cowardly and she loves Lions oldest I
knew she was going to dig the Scarecrow I just had a feeling yeah kind Vibes kindes she likes that whole that he had
the leader of the pack all and they both love Dorothy they think she's like that
just go and my littlest one just loved the whole thing she didn't know what to do but so I we got in the discussion of
I was like you know when I was little I was literally in love with the Tin Man yeah like in love with the Tin Man my
mom can tell you I used to be like can I marry the Tin Man and mom was like you can't but like that's a nice thought and
I don't know what it is and I've never really like fully thought about it like and I think it's just now it's cuz
before it was like you're little and you're like I love the Tim man whatever you move on you grow up and all of a
sudden watching it with the girls again I'm like suddenly like you don't move on
or grow up I didn't move on from that cuz CU I still think the Tin Man's hot what's that about me like I was watching
it and I was like no I'm still like really attracted to the Tin Man He's from our neck of the woods you said
right he is a lot of them are from Boston like the uh the wicked witch Margaret Hamilton she was from Boston oh
[ __ ] I didn't know that edit Margaret Hamilton is not from Boston I just wanted her to be sorry about that uh Ray
buer the Scarecrow Boston um I actually think I'm not sure if ber I think his name is I'm not really sure I'll get to
it in a second but the guy who played the uh Cowardly Lion he might have been from around here too A lot of them are
from here and the Tin Man you said was from is from Dorchester so I and he has like a thick Boston accent and I think
that's like ingrained in my brain to just automatically like connect to that's the most attractive when he says
like the Tin Man forgot to get the tin uh the tin maker forgot to give me a hot a and they both go no hot no hot just
like yes I love you Swoon and then I realized that not only do I love the Tin Man but I love Jack Haley the man who
played the Tin Man it was a big realization week for me like I really had like a I was it was a journey it was
an Eat Pray Love situation I just like had to go through it God that movie um I never saw that movie or read that book
but I feel like it's a journey of sorts so it's a journey watching the movie cuz
it's 42 years long yeah this was my like my journey through why do I find the Tin
Man attractive and I realized that I find Jack highly [Music] attractive you should do one of those
Tik toks where it's like show your childhood crush and then show who you married and like just is there any is
there any resemblance like is the 10 the 10 man's pretty tall he is he's tall he's kind kind eyes he has a hat he has
no hat but he he has hat you know yeah and he's got he's got very expressive eyes I wonder if he has a nice jaw he
love a nice J he has a great JW I I definitely have a type that is for sure we we all know that but so this is this
is what brought me this big long story that I just like feel like you all needed to know because we I also had
like a really fun conversation on Twitter with a bunch of listeners about this and like they were saying a ton of
them were into the Tin Man and they were like oh my God I thought I was alone and
then a lot of people were like I was a scarecrow girl so like we got or like I was a scarecrow guy and we got like this
big discussion of like why the hell do we find these yeah and it was really fun so like thanks for getting into that
discussion with me and it made me think about the fact that wait I remember coming upon all these weird dark like
[ __ ] up things that happened during the making of this movie which is funny that like we're all so in love with like
well those of us who are like into this movie and find it loved like you can just be like well that was the 1930s I
don't know like going on but when you really look into it you're like damn the making of this movie was like a
harrowing Adventure do you know what I feel like it's not that I don't like The Wizard of Oz but I feel like I like feel
that when I watch it like I feel the darkness cuz I remember yeah the first time I watched it and like I guess the
only time until recently I was just like H like I I didn't feel good about it yeah see I feel great about it I
apparently am not intuitive to the darkness but now I'm like wow it's a lot of dark [ __ ] my empathetic ways so what
we're going to do today is we're going to go through all the [ __ ] up Dark Secrets Behind The Wizard of Oz because
some people have actually asked us to do this in the past and recently when I mentioned the girls were watching it
somebody was like you got to do you got to do the weird stuff behind The Wizard of Oz behind it's like the man behind
the curtain and actually I think it was Michael from the spookies podcast that was like you guys should cover that and
I was like like little do you know little do you know working on that now so let's start we're going to go through
some of these things I'm just going to go like list by list but we're really going to get into them so the first
thing we're going to talk about because it's the most important is the Tin Man makeup because obiously Jack Haley uh
there is a big long very longstanding like Legend myth rumor that is untrue oh that John even thought was true that the
Tin Man the original tin man who played him died because of the makeup they put on him that's a big long Legend of this
movie that people are like well the original Tim man died from the makeup and they had to replace him no that
didn't happen in fact John used it cuz I when we were watching it I mentioned how
like I was like oh my God Swoon Tin Man and he was like too bad what happened to
him huh like he made a joke like that's too bad and I was like nothing happened to him and he was like what do you mean
I was like let me tell you a story nothing happened so something did happen to the original Tin Man but it's not
what we think so Jack Haley was not the original tinman buddy ebson was originally cast as the scare as actually
not even the Tin Man the Scarecrow oh and Ray buer who is the Scarecrow in the movie was originally cast as the Tin Man
so like slippity swaity so at some point they decided to switch roles because I think Ray came out and he said that he
really felt he was better suited for the role of scarecrow and he like just really liked that part and he want he
thought he play it better does he does a great SCC like it wouldn't have worked switched no so we have buddy abson who
is like in The Beverly Hillbillies he was like a very well-known comedic actor all that good stuff like everybody knew
who he was at the time he was cast as the Tin Man so Epson started rehearsals and the Wardrobe fittings for his new
role and everything was going fine with wardrobe everything he said in fact he said quote I was a guinea pig they
didn't know how to simulate the Tin Man's garments so I found myself doing tests with clothes made of real tin and
clothes made of silver paper and clothes made out of cardboard covered with silver cloth the makeup was just as bad
try this try that in the end they glued a cap on my head and covered it with glued on and and covered it and glued on
a rubber nose and a rubber chin and then covered the whole thing with clown white
makeup and then powdered aluminum dust onto my face and head oh so yeah everything's going fine
everything problem totally fine I don't see anything in there that could go Ary no so everything was fine he was covered
with aluminum dust every day and that was fine he had recorded every line of the Tin Man songs and when they began
filming so he was already he had all the songs recorded everything was ready to go things went well until October 13th
1938 which was only 9 days after they started filming abson suddenly said I'm feeling horrific and he was having
labored breathing he was having chest pains his arms and legs were cramping and like just like like completely
cringing up he could barely walk he was like passing out and he said uh he was quoted as saying quote one night after
dinner I took a breath and nothing happened they got an ambulance and had me go down to Good Samaritan for a
couple of weeks my lungs were coated with that aluminum dust they had been powdering on my face oh my God he was
blue and barely breathing when he arrived that's so scary his lungs were coated with aluminum powder yes he was
put in an iron lung dude was in an iron lung and spent weeks in the hospital recovering then after that he had to
spend more than a month recovering at the Coronado Hotel in San Diego he had like just lay in bed for weeks oh God
now this is what's nuts everyone at the MGM Studio producing the film was just pissed MGM got pissed about like a lot
of things back in the day that were actually their fault like I'm sorry what they were Furious that he was missing
filming and literally demanded him back on set that's cute he was literally dying of respiratory failure in an iron
lung and they were calling the hospital saying he needs to be back on set yeah well uh he's in an iron long right now
yeah he can't come to the phone right now like I'm sorry like Taylor Swift remix it's wild and he was quoted as
saying it seemed they couldn't understand that an actor could get sick they were Furious
mvin looy kept and he was like the head of the studio kept calling the hospital and saying he can't be in bed he's due
on set and Jack Dawn called me to tell me I couldn't possibly be sick because he had used aluminum dust pure aluminum
dust on my face so they're saying you can't no it's not and they're trying to cover their ass too no no it can't be
the aluminum dust because it's pure you're like that's actually exactly why I'm so sick right now well and that's
what's crazy is at the time they did think pureum umum dust was pretty fun wow like they would they did not in fact
I found a paper published in the Journal of environmental and occupational health
policy you know it right yeah I read that at night yeah it's a really good one to fall asleep there was a period of
time between about 1943 in 1979 where people who worked in mine in mines I almost just said miners but I
thought you guys would confuse that and be like people under the age of what uh like mine worker miners you you get it
now uh they they were literally forced this is wild to me this is such a dark thing in
history they were literally forced to inhale aluminum dust as an experimental medical treatment and a preventative
measure to stop a disease of the lungs called silicosis so not only were they like
breathing in the fumes from like you know mining mining but also they were like hey can can you sniff some of this
it's it's an experiment oh wait until you hear how they did it so silicosis is a lung disease that's called caused by
long-term inhalation of crystalline silica dust um or the particles and these are found in a lot of
environmental structures like stone rock clay things that miners are working with
uh miners who were diagnosed with this would at first just find themselves having this like nasty cough all the
time like it's almost like Black Lung kind of thing just they would have shortness of breath and it really isn't
diagnosed for like years usually all I'm thinking of right now was Zoolander right when he says like I think I've got
the black LP you just like looked like him you even in the [ __ ] hand you got to to
the it's so good it is is the best I tried not to like it when I was younger but it's funny uh but it would be found
on chest x-rays like years later so what would happen was these employers would blow
this finely powdered version of of aluminum dust called McIntyre powder into the changing rooms of the miners
and they did this through the [ __ ] air systems so they would just be in their changing area and there's aluminum
dust particles being blown in through all the air ducts for experimental purposes now in this paper in that
journal this paper is called trading one risk for another consequences of the unauthenticated treatment and prevention
of silicosis in Ontario miners in the McIntyre powder aluminum inhalation program me as well and it's by Janice
Martell and Lee l sorry sorry t uh but yeah two really smart people and I'll link this paper so
you can go look at it because I'm sure you want to but yeah I'm going to read it uh in this they talk about a guy
named Jim Hobs and they said he was 37 years old for the first time that he tast that he tasted aluminum dust it was
March 1978 whoa and it was his first day going underground at Rio algam Quirk to
uranium mine now after changing from street clothes into his mining gear Hobbs followed the other miners into a
tunnel like building that led to the cage that would transport them underground for their 8-hour shift of
Drilling mucking and Blasting the building dubbed the gas chamber by those who entered it was lined with benches
and Hobbs followed the routine of the others taking a seat and waiting for the cage call before that call came and
after the last man entered the building the doors shut at both ends the ventilation fans stop and the supervisor
yelled what would become a familiar phase to a surreal phrase in a surreal ritual that Hobbs would experience prior
to every shift for the next year and a half oh my God breathe deep boys that's what they would yell what in
1978 yep the hiss of compressed Airlines was quickly followed by a cloud of black
dust filling the room obscuring hobbs' vision of all that surrounded him as he took his first breaths of very finely
ground aluminum powder swirling rapidly from punctured canisters attached to the
airlines his chest felt heavy his Exposed Skin and clothed were blackened a metallic taste formed in his mouth and
he soon joined the choir of coughing and gasping arising from the others oh my God after 10 minutes the doors opened
and Hobbs and his shift Partners were herded into the cage his first industrial medical treatment was over
and he had to do that every day for a year and a half what like why why were they trying
this what were they trying to get was going to stop uh silicosis what so yeah That's how little
concerned they were by aluminum parter which is why they called the hospital and we're like no he needs to come back
here nobody you're fine it was pure aluminum dust we're not worried about it thank you and the doctors were like and
the doctors were like and even the doctors were like okay uh we're not like vibing with that aluminum
dust thing like all of us kind of feel like it's probably going to become a problem in a few years but if we're even
ignoring that if that's if he's not just being poisoned by it an iron lung he's still having an allergic reaction to it
so like something's happening bad here and so yeah so they were like yeah no he can't come back like I'm sorry that's
not something that can happen now Buddy Epson cuz of course you're like uh sue the studio absolutely my first thought
well buddy abson said he didn't sue the studio because it was a very different time and all of the studio execs were in
each other's Pockets which I'm sure it's not that different than now I was going
to say but if he had sued MGM he would have been blacklisted by all other studos yeah because you're a difficult
actor at that point he said quote you didn't just Sue lightly you didn't just Sue lightly Sue MGM because it was a
power and there was a certain cohesion between the Moguls they all used to play poker together on Saturday nights and
decide who were the good actors and who were the bad I mean look at Jee harlo MGM showed up to her husband's like time
death scene and was like yeah we don't need to call the police we know what happened fine we're the we are the we
are the investigators here yeah they were a power yeah absolutely so after a few weeks of trying to get him back from
like the brink of death um to then paint poison on him again and have him do it again like that was their plan like
let's put you back in the makeup they like we're making a [ __ ] movie guy yeah so finally they gave up because
they were like we can't wait any longer and he was really really sick so they were like we can't wait for you so the
head of the studio mvin looy decided to just fire Epson and he grabbed Jack a Haley to take over as part of the Tin
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saying I literally just wrote it in my notes and I just realized that I love to write myself little notes that like
maybe I'll say that was for me but like I'm giving it to you guys I do that sometimes too and I wrote I just need to
clear that up for myself I literally wrote that next so whatever he also had the weirdest contract that wasn't very
weird then but sounds weird now what it said basically and this was something that like was like I said wasn't weird
then a lot of actors and actresses had this basically he could be forced to play any role in these Studios because
his contract basically put him on loan to them oh like they could just call him and be like we got a roll for you get in
here now you have no say in it oh wow so they called him up and they didn't offer
him the role they called him and said hey you're the Tin Man get in here you have no choice okay and so he had to and
he said quote the type of contract I had I had to respond to their commands I had
no choice I was under contract and they could lend me to any Studio it was the most awful work the most horrendous job
in the world with those cumbersome uniforms and the hours of makeup but I had no choice wow like you didn't know
saying it I love that he was like I [ __ ] hated it yeah he was like this sucked uh his costume was crazy heavy
part of it was like really metal so a t so hot like he said so hot he couldn't sit so he would lean against this thing
like it was like a board that was like specifically made for actresses and huge gowns and corses when they couldn't sit
down they would just lean against this to get any kind of relief oh my God so he would they had one there and he would
just lean on it and actually uh he would do this like between shots a lot like just to get some relief cuz he literally
couldn't sit his back must have been killing him and it was funny because uh the guy who played the Cowardly Lion
Bert he said that it pissed him off because he was his costume was so heavy we'll get into his costume don't worry
uh cuz his costume has some dark [ __ ] too but he said it used to piss him off because he also was like an insomniac in
real life so he said he would walk by Jack Haley just leaning against a board in full costume out colds between shots
like he was like that dude could fall asleep to a board and he's like he used to piss me off I was like [ __ ] that guy
like why can he sleep like that and I can't even sleep in my bed God that's hilarious I just like I'll link the uh
book I found on this it's really interesting there's a lot of like behind the scenes stuff yeah I love that but so
he just stepped in he wasn't told [ __ ] about why Buddy Epson was fired either cuz you just like in those days you went
in and people got fired all the time for like everything anything for gain at THM
exctly at thod so you go in and you didn't ask questions you just okay this is mine uh I guess luckily for him they
did change the way they did the makeup which shows that they definitely knew it was a person in the first place they
made it into an aluminum paste instead of a dust so he wouldn't be inhaling the dust but you're still inhaling aluminum
to some degree to some degree I'm sure he never had any problems after it afterwards but um they what they did was
they painted white grease paint on him like clown makeup yeah and then they paint they used the paste that had
aluminum dust in it to put that aluminum Sheen over him so it wasn't dusted on like with Roy Ray it was literally
dusted on so it was just like yeah and like all this it makes me think of like translucent powder that's exactly what
it is and you're just like yeah cuz it just gets like all over you but unfortunately this pace did get into his
eye and it caused a bad infection in his right eye and he was gone for 4 days while they had to save his sight oh my
God he was going to lose sight God did they like discard all aluminum based products after this no they didn't so
while all this is going on by the way Ray buer as the Scarecrow was also dealing with the horror of the makeup he
had to wear every day too cuz we're not in like the you know you know the uh Tom savini kind of
makeup here like we're not in like the 2000s like we know what we're doing we're in 1930s they're doing what they
can exactly and when you actually look at the scarecrow makeup in that you're like that's pretty good and the Tin Man
makeup is like tin's great the Scarecrow looks like a burlap sack like is his head but it was gnarly it's not like now
they have like you know the're really like they have certain brushes and stuff that they use and like substances that
can take the makeup off really Nic too and gently they would just tear that [ __ ] off yeah and what Ray buer the
Scarecrow said was quote I came home exhausted and had two burban old Fashions the drinks were therapeutic I
needed the alcohol to let me down and they had enough sugar to to kind of give me a lift so I could manage to eat my
dinner and fall into bed oh man that's how they felt at the end of these days now he remembers nothing else about this
like these months he said but quote going to bed and getting up and going to work and half the time I don't even
remember that so they were just like they were just Trucking through and when you hear what they did to keep Dorothy
on task oh yeah they the filming days were insane and they were in these like a lot of people like think that Dorothy
you know or Dorothy Judy Garland had it like easier in the costume sense which she did she did in the ense but she had
it bad in a different way yeah she had it like real [ __ ] bad they had yeah they had these gnarly costumes that they
were spending like literally like 13-hour days in they couldn't take them off cuz they weren't willing to redo the
makeup so if you broke for lunch you either tried to eat lunch in that makeup if you couldn't too bad oh my God the
lion costume I can't imagine being in that for like 13 hours a day oh yeah and what both um Ry and uh Jack Haley said
was quote The Mask wasn't porous so you couldn't sweat you couldn't breathe through your skin you don't realize how
much you breathe through your skin until you can't do it we felt like we were suffocating oh my God yeah he also
discovered after the last take of the film that the corners of his mouth and his chin were permanently lined from his
make yeah like they he said it took months and months for them to even fade like the corners of his were like had
like lines like a Joker makeup oh my God yeah and I know it's insane and Jack Haley said that his costume was quote no
less awful they pulled my hair back as flat as they could and put some sort of rubber skin over my head and glued it
down behind my ears they covered my face with cold cream then they took a white chalk like Salve and painted my face
white the idea of the white stuff was so was to close my pores so the silver paste that made me look like I was made
of tin wouldn't damage my skin they painted my face silver and glued on a silver nose they glued a strip of rubber
That was supposed to be tin under my chin and glued each individual rubber Ribbit onto my face then they painted my
lips black because painting my face silver made my mouth look too red oh my God coloring my lips black made my gums
and tongue duller I couldn't breathe through my face none of us could and Bert lar had it worst of all and then
like think of God only knows what they were using for glue like nowadays you use like liquid latex or gum and what
was the thing that you used for yeah but this was probably like glue on your skin
this probably [ __ ] like Gorilla Glue probably is like let me super glue this to your face and rip it off every day
well and when Haley says that Bert L had it worst of all Bert L played the Cowardly Lion yeah that was real lion
hide yeah you told me that the other day and I'm still not over it the Cowardly Lion's costume was made of real lion
skin real lion fur real lion hide it was 90 lb and and it smelled they said ew of
course it did yeah and they said it literally smelled and they was so heavy to walk around in so heavy to move in
they said that he would take it off at the end of the day and literally be dripping with sweat oh I a um yeah I
can't I I couldn't even talk I'm like yeah and then his face he had like a lot of prosis on his face like he had a lot
of you know the like mouth area it's supposed to look like a cat so they made it so his mouth couldn't open that wide
so he eat and for 13 hours a day he's just like sitting literally and they said he would literally have to eat
drink only like a milkshake or soup or something he could suck through a straw basically and he said that because if he
tried to chew he would break the prosis and they didn't want to redo it they be pissed so he literally couldn't eat and
he would get pissed I guess like at um Jack and Ray for like noming in between shots whenever they could because he
literally couldn't and every once in a while he would just like get pissed pissed and just like grab a sandwich and
just like bust through his makeup I don't blame him hangry is a real thing because these people all of these actors
were literally like starved on set like they were not given food like and if they were given food they were like told
that they were fat and like out of it's insane well then think about you're lugging around in 90 lb costume all day
where you literally like can't your body can't even cool itself down so you're sweating you're super hot and then you
can't eat I wonder how much weight that guy lost oh yeah oh I'm sure and they said that they had to use a ton of Ark
lighting uh from different Studios to get the effect of all of these sets and you know and so it is a billion degrees
and so they would literally between shots like run over to the doors and like open the doors and just get fresh
air and like breathe like all of those all the main four actors would literally they said would just be like gasping for
breath outside the door between shots like trying to get any kind of what a this is AAL torturous
experience but yeah so the Cowardly Lion had a tough pure just only based on the
fact that he's wearing real lion fur yeah [ __ ] that and then you can't eat it's like insane and that's 90 PBS
really wild so 13 hours a day now let's get on to some of the other makeup issues and some of the accidents that
happened on this set yeah so the Wicked Witch of the West was played by Margaret
Hamilton she's phenomenal we love we love her uh now let's talk about her makeup obviously if you've seen the
movie She's Green from head to toe yes uh green makeup back then was made with copper oxide it was made with copper
which is toxic yeah so the makeup people said that they had to be completely thorough when REM moving her makeup
every night before she left because if they left any it could literally be fatal like it could poison her how did
it not poison her throughout the 13-hour day don't know so they said quote every
every night when I was taking this was like a makeup person every night when I was taking off the witch's makeup I
would make sure that her face was thoroughly clean spotlessly clean before you because you don't take chances with
green so when she was burned spoiler alert I remember that I didn't want to take any chances I knew that makeup had
to be cleaned off so we're going to talk about that burn situation and how they just said even when she was burned we
had to clean the makeup off remember that oh no oh I don't want to talk about that so in the scene where the Wicked
Witch of the West leaves munchkin land in like a puff of smoke in the beginning um and there's like fire and smoke there
was an accident so it was December 23rd 1938 they had put a false piece of yellow brick road where she had to exit
Okay so she was to back up onto this and it was rigged with an elevator to bring
her down and out of the shot while she was lowering down the smoke and fire would come up and obscure her going down
now they practiced this at ton because she had to go backwards and hit the spot just right cuz if the elevator went down
and only one of her feet was on it she could like break her legs yeah so I guess the opening of that Elevator Shaft
there was really narrow too so Margaret Hamilton was instructed and practiced a million times to bring her elbows in
tight as soon as it started going down because if she didn't she would literally break her arms or her
shoulders and they were liter they weren't like let's figure out a way to make that not happen they were just like
do your best hold your elbows in cuz if not you're going to break both your shoulders like wing it [ __ ] like what
and there was also two guys waiting Below in case she broke her legs coming down they could carry her awesome so
those were the concern being so thoughtful guys and weirdly those are the concerns they're worried about her
breaking her arms or like her legs going but we have like whole ass fire going on
but weirdly nothing like that happened she didn't break a leg or an arm or anything legs and arms were fine in fact
the first time they did this whole shot it was was perfect went off without a hitch Victor Fleming the director was
like psyched he was like that was perfect but he said as always we're going to do one more shot just to have
it in the Canam just in case oh no that's when you know too that's when you know and this is when the [ __ ] hit the
fan so Margaret Hamilton actually recalled something uh that Billy Burke said she's the one who plays Glenda
Billy Burke okay um she actually said quote we were about 40 feet away from the fire and Miss Burke shook her head
and said oh I'm not going to stand here and I said why not miss Burke and she said oh my dear it's much too hot and I
thought you're 40 feet away but I'm going to be right in the middle of it yeah right she was like ah [ __ ] like
what so they had taken a break and when they came back to do this second shot just the insurance shot uh a bunch of
mishaps happened nothing that got anybody hurt at first but it was you know she wasn't hidden by the smoke the
fire happened too late the fire didn't go off at all it was just like everything was [ __ ] signs from the
universe saying you already got your shot we got the shot we got the shot Fleming let's just let it go now she
said quote and this is crazy that this is how much Victor Fleming the director did not give a [ __ ] about these people
so she said quote and then we got to we got the Full Tilt of Mr Fleming's impatience and anxiety in no uncertain
language he told us to pull ourselves together and get the shot done he said there's no excuse for this the minute
she gets her foot on I want and I said Mr Fleming I want to get both feet on and he said yes yes of course but I want
this shot done right and right now uhhuh well it went wrong the fire went way too
early while Margaret Hamilton was not under the stage yet so the broom got uh caught fire the broom that she was
holding and it caught her face on fire she said quote I felt warmth on my face that's all it's still un unbelievable
there was a whole lot of running and Holo and shouting and my hat and my broom were on
fire and I didn't even know it she was literally in shock of course she ended up with first-degree burns on her face
mainly her chin nose cheek and forehead her eyebrows and lashes were completely burned off oh my God she had second and
almost third degree burns on her hands that was the worst part the skin on her right hand was completely gone goodby it
was just raw flesh goodbye just raw flesh oh my now remember that makeup the toxic green makeup thing did it not like
burn into her skeleton at that point well when the Flesh on her hands literally peeled off from the Burns they
still had to remove the makeup and the only way to do that was alcohol no mhm so they had to use
alcohol to scrub the toxic Co copper oxide filled green makeup off the hands of Margaret Hamilton after she burned
the flesh clean off of them and her face you know how like when older people are
like like I used to have to walk backwards up a hill um to school inow everyone in The Wizard of Oz has the
right to say I did they can they're like I had my hands cleaned with alcohol after suffering third degree burns and
like peeling my skin back M she said it was the most horrific pain she's ever felt in her life she was out for 6 weeks
healing and I bet they were pissed oh they were on her ass in fact her doctor answered the phone once while they
called her at home and he was like you're she's an idiot if she doesn't sue your ass like you're not she'll get back
when she's good and ready like f good for him I love that and they were probably like yeah watch her they were
like [Music] mhm she said the only reason she didn't sue is because she wanted to work again
and she never would have if she was sued but so did they have to pause filming then they did yeah and um she did refuse
to work with fire ever again in the movie she was figure it out I'm not working with fire now in fact when she
got back to set she was due to do that skywriting scene that surrender Dorothy scene which there's a band called
surrender Dorothy I remember like from high school yeah great band name surrender Dorothy so good I want to call
it I can't but good job guys yeah seriously was good one she was doing the close-ups cuz there's close-up shots of
her like on the Broom like laughing and there's smoke behind her I'm like yelling at doroth yeah just just
screaming and screeching um but it required her to sit on a seal a steel saddle on her broom uhhuh and it was
raised up and then smoke would pour out of the back from a pipe under the saddle
oh God that's how they rig this whole thing God I'd be like I don't want to do that now she was told by everyone no
this is completely safe don't worry about it you're good like when have we ever put you in danger before you know
this going to explode under my Bona DK but they mentioned you know if you'd like we did make you a fireproof costume
and she was like like why why'd you make me a fireproof costume if this is completely safe and it's probably not
even fireproof I don't trust a single thing you say so she was like no so she said she wouldn't do it with the smoke
in the fire she's like no she said she would do the close-ups she was like do the close-ups of my face add [ __ ] in
afterwards and she was like I don't know what to tell you with everything else so
her stunt double Betty Dano said she would do the rest now she was a young girl at this point she was she was
probably trying to like up be like an up so she's like I'll do anything oh yeah and she's a stunt girl so she's like
she's done a few things like this and she's like oh yeah you got to be down for anything but Margaret actually told
her before she left set that day she was like I'm really worried for you I don't
want you to do it like I'm worried something's going to happen and you're going to get hurt and she was like I
need the money I don't want them to think I'm hard to work with mhm Well turns out they did two good takes on the
broomstick and the third time the pipe literally exploded under her I knew you were going to say that she said quote I
felt as though my scalp was coming off I guess that's because my hat and my black
wig were literally torn loose they found them days later at the top of the stage
oh my God the explosion blew me off the broomstick I managed to grab it with both hands and throw my leg over it I
hung upside down while the men handling the wires lowered the broomstick to the floor and put me face down on the stage
she was completely burned and her left leg had a giant hole in it where her dress had be
confused cuz it was burned into this giant hole in her leg what the [ __ ] I want to hear what's
even better I don't quote while I lay there on the floor waiting for the ambulance the Wardrobe woman came
running in and she said what did you do with the hat I have to turn it in you know I'd be like there's a [ __ ]
hole in my leg and I suggest you get the [ __ ] away from me unless you'd like a
matching one I was just lit a full flame you what I'd be like you can take the Hat when you find it and shove it right
up your like I am bruny the Fire Spirit from Frozen 2 right now and you are asking me where that hat is can you
you're laying first of all face cuz I can't even even have like the nicity to put you on your back like what and then
she's like I need to hand in that hat I need to turn that in you know it's like you're going to get in trouble today
okay you're going to have some explaining you know what you should site explosion for you didn't turn that in
person was exploded in the Hat I don't know hat hat literally exploded she had permanent scars on her legs from it I
guess and I guess later at some like some kind of Hollywood thing I don't know if it was like it was like years
later she ran into Victor Fleming and he tried to look under her skirt to see the
scars because he said he felt so bad what he tried to see her leg scars because he wanted to see how bad it was
I'd be like well my leg exploded so that's how bad it was how bad it was what the [ __ ] Victor yeah I'd be like
Victor get away from me you bad news get your bad news okay now Victor Fleming speaking of him I'll skip ahead to
something with him because please do he so he actually wrote and admitted to this incident he said quote when Judy
Garland couldn't stop breaking into giggles at the pseudo menacing advance of Bert L's Cowardly Lion so when they
first meet the Cowardly and he runs after Toto yeah and then she whacks him on the nose I guess she kept breaking
into Giggles cuz that's funny and I guess Bert L was really funny cuz he was like like just like coming at her so she
kept laughing I was going to say she was literally young and so he said quote he
escorted her off the yellow brick road and said now darling this is serious slapped her in the face then ordered her
now go in there and work and she said it yep happened and every everyone around the set said I saw it happen he
literally slapped a 17-year-old girl in the face and was like get back to work and stop laughing wow they weren't
kidding when they said things were different back then and then he I guess immediately felt bad so he started going
around to the crew and asking people in the crew to punch him in the face good and so they were all like no
cuz they're like I'm going to lose my job I don't know I it's a really weird way to handle that situation instead of
just like going to her and saying I feel really bad also how many of the crew you
know he hadn't met any of the crew so he's literally walking up to them and they're like hi I'm Joe Mr Fleming nice
to meet you like no I won't punch you in the face kiss please punch me and I guess Judy like saw this happening
because she immediately went back into the scene the scene you see in the movie is exactly what happened right after she
got slapped the first take she did was the one in the movie oh wow so the one you see in the movie is right after she
just got slapped in the face by Victor [ __ ] Fleming so abused it's really sad it's horrific what they did to her
she actually heard all this like that he was walking around like asking crew members to punch himself and I guess she
like overheard this and she went over to him and said cuz he was like you should
just punch me in the face to her to which I would say okie do and I guess she said I won't do that but I'll kiss
your nose and she did oh what a cutie what what they did Judy so wrong yeah they did her dirty they did her so wrong
yeah I would have punched Victor FL stream kiss like that's your time just K but like what a what a pure and
wholesome human what a strange way who was like led into such a shitty path of life oh yeah watching the movie ruined
me ru me I mean her real name is Francis gum huh yeah now speaking of Dorothy and
the horrific things that were done to her Judy Garland had the saddest life at 14 she was working on her first real
movie called pig skin parade it was about like a football coach horrible sure does and the head of the studio Lou
uh Louis B Meyer I don't know if it's Louis or Lewis but get ready for the Tweet about that my guy but uh he's a
piece of [ __ ] so I literally don't care what his real name is good um he would
call her quote fat little pig in pigtails wow so I don't care if it's Louis or Lou don't okay um [ __ ] said
that child let me tell you Mr glass house should have kept his rocks to himself go ahead and Google what he
looks like yeah name again excuse me Glass House Louis B mayor I think it's Lou um but yeah like go away Mr glass
house we're loading this is when she started exactly exactly like I'm s was there a mirror on set that day sir like
please now this is when she started being placed on these crazy diets of only like soup and cigarettes and all
that [ __ ] seriously now for Oz the studio exacts focused heavily on her weight and basically made her feel like
[ __ ] that she she even had boobs cuz she was 17 at this point she's like turning
into like that time when you're getting women have boobs and now Dorothy was supposed to be like a younger girl like
she was supposed to be like I think in the book she's supposed to be like 12 oh but I think in the movie they have her
more around like 15 so cast a 15-year-old if that's what you want well and so they were like we want you to
look younger than 17 so obviously she's not so they were literally documenting her food intake for months leading up to
shooting wow the Studio execs are documenting a young girl's food intake for months and that
is like and obviously did but will affect you for the rest of your life 100% if you start eating like that this
stuff was the reason she died the way she did and like developing that relationship with food is so dangerous
so dangerous so sad they also kept her on a steady pill schedule at this point as well they would force her to take
what they called pet pills to stay awake AKA meth and downers to sleep and chill
out so she would sleep for like 4 hours and then they would just like shake her awake Force some pet pills down her
throat and make her work for like days straight before she would crash again oh my God now during filming of Oz she was
on a diet of soup dozens of cigarettes a day and black coffee that's it Jesus can
you imagine her stomach and on top of it they made her wear crazy corsets under that dress and strapped down her chest
as tight as they could to make it so she didn't look like she had a chest wow so
she was and that's like against her will like and she's sitting there having to like and it's painful and she's having
to like pretend to be this like peppy yay like iest young girl and yeah like I just can't imagine like condition her
stomach was in with all those cigarettes coffee on like an empty stomach and then
pills yeah my God like can you imagine how sick she felt all the time no because I've had to go on like medicine
before where like I've like like I broke my pelvis and they had to put me on morphine and you like you couldn't eat
and I was the sickest I have ever been I can't imagine having to be in that state
while doing a movie where I was also just being treated like [ __ ] all the time yeah like when I had um whatever
pain pill they gave me after like the my first C-section I took one of them and I was
like so sick I was like I never taking that like w wow I could not handle that cuz I'm just usually I have like a
pretty good pain tolerance like good one and so I usually can get like if something hurts I'll take like a Adil
and it's like that usually is fine for me so but this I was like oh I just got cut open maybe I should take this oh my
God never again I was like no this is not worth the sickness I feel we had to go back to the doctors when I was like
that and we were like yeah like I can't take this they had me take a half and even a half I was still like horrible I
see I was like they just gave me Motrin afterwards and I was like that's all I can do yeah but on top of all of this
with Judy Garland um some of the actors who played some of the um characters in Munchkin land they were like sexually
assaulting her on set good yeah um and her husband one of her husbands later said quote they would make Judy's life
miserable on set by putting their hands under her dress my God the men were more
than 40 years old at that point and she's 17 and she like is just turning 17 gross and she's like made to look like a
child in that like way younger what the [ __ ] guys just really messed up and I get I do um from what I read though I
guess the three guys like the the lion Tin Man and scarecrow were like super protective of her and they were all like
good dudes and none of them did anything like that and they were like really tight as like a little unit like a squad
yeah I love that so that's nice to know at least she had like she had the comfort of that some kind of protection
there but uh another thing that's really crazy about this is um if you've seen if
you remember the poppy scene yeah where the wicked Witch of the West causes them
to fall asleep in the puppies puppies uh well lucky for them Glinda casts a counter spell during that that
causes snow to fall and they all wake up unfortunately Glenda was like kind of the maybe she was the bad guy here
because the snow that fell was 100% asbestos oh [Music] yeah [Music] now this was the 1930s and asbestos was
actually used in Christmas decorations then like fake snow what the [ __ ] but still this is wild to know now yes
especially when you watch it and you're just like oh that's just straight up a and it's all over their faces all over
everything literally like in their mouths like it's just like they're just like living in it and it's it's funny
because I read a one of the articles I read was on Atlas obscura and they put it best by saying The Wizard of Oz quote
literally douses its main characters in carcinogens correct that's literally what it does and when you watch the
scene you're just sitting there being like poison yeah all over your body you're all being doused in poison
wowos and a last little well last big thing that I'll touch upon which is like kind of the saddest thing to me um but
I'll leave you on well no I'm going to leave you on a sad note I'm sorry but uh I'll give you a couple things after this
but um the woman who played Auntie M who Auntie M and Uncle Henry you're just like I love you I love you so much her
name was Clara bandic and she was famous she was like on Broadway and tons of movies yeah this was actually one of her
like smallest roles but like she took it cuz she just loved the movie and they loved having her name on it now she
after The Wizard of Oz was in like failing Health um it was like through the 1950s and she was going blind um she
was the victim of severely painful arthritis all over her body and they couldn't get it uncontrol back then just
real quick too this is like um a suicide trigger so just this is going to be a minute where I'm going to talk about it
so April 15th 1962 she returned to her home after church she placed photos and letters and momentos from her career all
around her she surrounded herself with newspaper clippings of her career her Awards movie credits she got dressed in
a royal blue gown she did her hair and she took sleeping pills and she laid on the couch with a gold blanket over her
and placed a plastic bag over her head oh wow she passed away that way and she left a note that said quote I am now
about to make the Great Adventure I cannot endure this in agonizing pain any longer it's all over my body NE neither
can I face the impending blindness I pray the Lord my soul to take amen oh apparently so sad she is buried very
close to Charlie grawin who played Uncle Henry her her husband like yards away like right next
to each other is that just like a weird Co I don't know if it was like meant to but it's like a nice little like thought
how sad is that like she had this and she had this beautiful amazing career yeah can I say something weird
it's like beautifully sad like the way that she did it I'm like I'm glad that she was able to like take control of the
way she wanted to do she was in control of it that was what she wanted to do but
like sad that she had no other option like it's such a bummer that like medical stuff has come so far and it
hadn't come that far to relieve her of any of that pain that is really sad cuz I can't imagine being in chronic pain
and there's nothing no nothing Artis like just watching I obviously have never like gone through that but
watching people go through that I can't imagine yeah I really can't and to have it all over your body yeah I hope she
did have a great adventure excuse me I hope she's having a great she still having that Great Adventure She's Over
the Rainbow having a blast oh that one really yeah I know thanks I know I'm sorry do you have anything good in there
I guess this just shows you how close like the three main charact like the um Ray buer and Bert L and Jack Haley were
uh when I think Ray was the last one to pass away out of all of them um and when
Jack Haley died he gave a eulogy at his funeral and he said Jack it's going to be a very Lon it's going to be very
lonesome on the yellow brick road now really that's how they were and just to leave you on like not the saddest of
notes but more like wow Margaret Hamilton get it okay the Wicked Witch's lines most of them were cut and a lot of
her scenes were cut from the final film because execs and focus groups said the performance was way too terrifying they
said kids literally couldn't handle it go off like so Margaret Hilton just scared the [ __ ] out she was like that's
what I was hired for so she's only on screen for like 15 minutes in the film but she had tons more oh that sucks it
hard like she was terrified I would I wish they had like uh did a version like where they could have released that
version I know I'm like can we have her deleted scen I see her scary ass scenes for real I wonder if they could ever
uncover them someday I know I wonder I think that there's way to do that who knows have they I'm not even sure I
should look I know let's find out but that is some of the Dark Secrets I found about the yellow the yellow Road the Y
was about the yell BR road but about the wiard of Oz and how [ __ ] up the filming was wow that was really
entertaining question it definitely is cursed I feel I feel like I'm it's a lot I feel like I'm
never going to watch that movie the same with your children you watch it get like
and you're like w you watch it with a different you exploded you had to go to the hospital you almost went blind you
did this and for in the second half of the film I haven't looked to see this but Margaret Hamilton's wearing green
gloves instead of green makeup because she could they even when she came back it hadn't healed enough that she could
put makeup on so she had had to wear gloves on her hands oh wow and I want to look for it the next time I watch now
yeah cuz I guess she also said that like Victor Fleming grabbed her hand when she
came back and was like it looks good and she was like no that's like freshly healed skin like it's not it looks
pretty but it's thick enough to do anything and like that's how nasty W Victor filming sounds like the worst and
I wish that everybody he had asked to punch him in the face actually did punch him in the face I know that would have
been nice but yeah that's the dark [ __ ] about The Wizard of Oz oh and just like
cuz I I people might be wondering uh because there's this big legend that one of the actors who played one of the
munchkins like hung themselves in a tree on set you can see it in the original part of the film that was completely
untrue what people were seeing was a bird that they had on set that like puts its wings up and kind of looks like it
and people have photoshopped like an actual hanging person in there it's not true it didn't happen or is that what
they want you to think yeah there's no I mean there's absolutely no evidence or no police was say we know all the other
horrific things about what went it would have leaked out but it's still in a very
enduring rumor because everything I was reading I every every time I would like peek over at comments of it like any uh
like you know little movies about it or books or anything uh there was always a million people being like well someone
hung themselves on the set like that is an enduring rumor people really believe that and I did I did for a while when
that R first came out I was young and I remember trying to see it I was like what is like and you could see the bird
and I remember being like is that but it's not it's a bir yeah I remember definitely hearing that I never looked
for it though yeah that didn't happen though at least not that that you can find anywhere well that's uh settling
that it didn't happen yeah but everything else happened in this so thanks for that yeah it's a [ __ ] up
movie but I thought it might you know it's a holiday week we're just gonna give you this weird weird off episode
that's still spooky but like in a different way yeah humans are weird they certainly are you know I really enjoyed
that that was that was a cool episode yeah I just wanted to do something a little different yeah I like that hope
you guys dug it it's your show go off yeah it's my show man yeah well we hope that you keep
listening and we hope you keep it weird but not s that you decide to direct a movie and do any of the things that were
done on this movie set thank you and good night bye Follow The Yellow Brick Road Follow the yellow brick road or
don't [Music]

This episode is a fan favorite that was originally published as Episode 281…

For this Holiday week, we wanted to bring you a lighter (?) episode, although it’s really not so light at all! Alaina’s kids have gotten super into the Wizard of Oz and so she decided to do dive into the dark happenings during filming. All kinds of atrocities went down and we are pretty confident that you’ll never watch this movie the same! Sorry…. we mean you’re welcome!

References:

-https://www.amazon.com/Making-Wizard-Oz-Aljean-Harmetz/dp/1613748329/ref=sr_1_2?crid=TWGV0EMUDT2P&keywords=the+making+of+the+wizard+of+oz+book&qid=1637775119&sprefix=the+making+of+the+wiza%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-2" target="_blank"

-The Making of the Wizard of Oz By Aljean Harmetz (Be wary that this book is fascinating but uses some outdated language when referencing certain people)

Brief Summary

The episode reveals the dark history and dangers faced by actors during the making of <i>The Wizard of Oz</i>, including health issues and toxic materials.

Key points

Thanksgiving Traditions. The hosts share their favorite Thanksgiving dishes and cooking excitement.
The Dark Side of Oz. Exploring the unsettling history behind The Wizard of Oz.
Tin Man's Harrowing Experience. The original Tin Man faced serious health issues due to makeup.
The Dark History of Aluminum Dust. Miners were forced to inhale aluminum dust as an experimental treatment for silicosis.
Buddy Epson's Firing. After suffering from aluminum dust exposure, Buddy Epson was fired from his role.
The Horrors of Costumes. Actors endured torturous conditions in heavy, non-breathable costumes.

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Excitement about Thanksgiving preparations.

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