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crime it's you [Music] you we are in Borman Ohio for part two of this week's True Crime Story and we
already discussed the first two still unsolved cases the first being that of Thomas Bard who was killed in December
of 1970 he was found badly beaten actually found by a police officer Tom was unconscious when found taken
immediately to the hospital placed in intensive care where sadly he passes away Days Later never regaining
Consciousness police are never able to ask him any questions about who attacked him or how he was attacked or why Brad
Bolino was the second in this sad series he was abducted on the last day of March
1972 and according to the coroner's report he was killed more more than 24 hours after he leaves his best friend's
house and his body is found on April 4th 1972 there were unconfirmed sightings of
Brad on that Saturday but police have said since that they don't believe those sightings to be accurate as they have
information and evidence that suggest that he was held somewhere by his captor until he was killed then at some point
the killer or Killers Place him in that trash container where he is found on April 4th the killer or Killers possibly
I say likely Captain covering him with debris before leaving the scene now both of us have reviewed this picture and I
want to describe this picture to the listeners what it is is we have a normal looking trash truck that comes around
and picks up you know everybody's trash and it picks up the dumpsters and it empties the trash from these dumpsters
right into the back of the trash truck that has the trash compactor back there so we've all seen those but this is 1972
When Brad bolo's body is found and all the papers refer to this dumpster as a trash container which I think is much
more fitting once you see the picture you go okay I don't know that I would call that a dumpster you know nowadays
when we say the word dumpster you think of these very large objects I mean I'm I'm six foot one and a lot of times
these dumpsters come up to my shoulders or you know almost my chin I guess right
luckily I've never been in one never had to go dumpster diving but uh I'm saving
that for my my senior years but um the uh this the glory years yes the gold years th this is a a container that is
considerably smaller than what I would call a dumpster and you see the two officers standing next to this dumpster
so the refuge collector he spots the boys's feet sticking out of it and goes over and tries to push them down
thinking it's just a mannequin right because this is in a in a shopping area of town be you know normal trash store
type trash in these in these trash containers that he's collecting and he quickly figures out no
this is this is a body he calls the police I've seen the reports Captain I think the police were on the scene 7
minutes after it's like six or seven minutes after he calls it in and in this picture we get a really good idea of the
size of this trash container because we have two officers who are responding and
they're standing next to this trash container in this picture and again you can see this picture it's pretty readily
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Facebook and Instagram yes and this is the picture that is really like now Infamous in the town of Borman this is
one that I've heard over the years and seen discussed on message boards over the years where people will say yeah I
grew up in the 70s in in Borman Ohio and I saw that picture this picture was in the newspaper this picture like scared
the hell out of children and and parents of course because you you you are seeing
the body recovery site one thing I wanted to ask you before we move on too far here get your opinion on I've always
kind of struggled with this if I had not seen this picture and somebody told me that that boy's body was found in a
dumpster I would tell you that I would lean on the side of two perpetrators or at least two people dumping the body to
get it up that high and into a large dumpster this Captain it appears to me and I'm
again I'm judging off of these two officers who appear to be average height this appears to me like this trash
container probably comes up to their waist maybe just a little bit above their waist yeah yeah belly button or
elbow level um the kid Brad is listed as approximately 80 pounds I've never won any strong man
contest I don't think that's ever going to happen for me but uh you know what what do you think
do you do you lean more towards two people obviously it would be easier for two people to put him in there but I
don't think necessary I think even if it was a large dumpster it's not impossible
to just say that there was one perpetrator but I think what your point is is because this one is only waste
height that it would be pretty easy for somebody with maybe not even that much strength
to be able to put him inside that dumpster yeah I think all you have to do is get something that's 80 lb
unfortunately dead weight and you have to be able to get it up to probably your chest height to to put him in there and
we don't know how he was lugged but I would imagine the way that this goes down and because this case is unsolved
you always have to kind of look at these and go okay well why is it unsolved well
it's unsolved because unfortunately the killer wasn't witnessed by anybody right
the the abduction we don't know at what point Brad was intercepted between his house and home between his home and
Dawn's house right we don't know if he willingly hitched a ride and got in the wrong car we don't know if somebody
pulled up and had to grab him off the street or maybe two people grab him off the street all we know is that this is a
a sexual assault homicide and involving a juvenile victim and but you you look at these
things and go why are they unsolved okay well we we know no witness for the abduction however it happened whether no
witness of him getting into a vehicle willingly and we also don't have we don't have a witness saying well I saw
the the body being dumped as well so I'm picturing under the cover of Darkness middle of the night vehicle pulls up as
close as they can to this trash container maybe they know the trash schedule or or know it Loosely If This
Were me if I were the perpetrator and and remember we've discussed this plenty of times the the Killer's goal when you
see a sexually related homicide the Killer's goal we don't have to get too far into that to know what it is that's
already taken place up to this point now once the murder is committed the killer
or Killers have a problem they have a body that that they need to get rid of I'm guessing here captain that it may be
no coincidence that this trash is being collected that morning early morning 7:55 a.m. is when the truck pulls up to
empty this thing and if nobody spots him in that container beforehand well he's he's off to the
incinerator off to the landfill wherever that trash truck was going and may have
never been discovered at all and maybe that was the Killer or Killer's intention and you pull up there the
night before under the cover of Darkness maybe in the middle of the night one 2 three in the morning Place him in there
and then attempt to cover him up as much as you can with some of the debris and the boxes that are already found in that
container well I believe this case because of the time period if it would have happened if it would have happened
in the last couple years I think this case would have been solved very quickly because like you said at some point
unless the murderer lured him into his house or into their house that there's multiple crime scenes so there'd be
evidence on there'd be evidence on Bradley right on his clothes there'd be fibers there would
be and if he was placed somewhere else now look he could have been sexually assaulted and murdered within a vehicle
and then placed in the the trunk of that vehicle and driven around for a couple days it's it's also a royal you know
it's on the outskirts in the sense where like we said you have shopping centers and stuff
but a couple miles down the road you can find a place to dump a body and that didn't happen here this this body was
dumped in a trash can so again that I think that leads to your idea of the person possibly knowing trash schedule
or it could just be as simple as I have this victim in the back of my car I got to get rid of it at some point maybe I
go out to my car and I can really start telling that there's a dead body in my car and now I I'm panicked and I I can't
go look in a rural area for the best dumping spot I have to now just find a place to put this victim right and it
feels like to me it it feels like a poor choice of driving to what sounds to me to be one of the busier areas of town
back then we should we should state that the population back then would have been
between 30 and 35,000 people and as the captain pointed out you have this is a growing Town
Borman is a growing town where you have parts and pieces of it that have a lot of homes and have a lot of shops and
businesses and things like that but there are also Country Roads there are also roads where the businesses are way
off of the way set back from the road and that's some of the spaces that had Brad made the entire trip from Don's
house to his house that's kind of given the the landscape of what he would have traversed during that time and so it
seems a little odd to me for someone to drive into this busy area of town to dispose of the body but I guess if you
have a situation where for whatever reason you don't have the ability to bury because what I'm getting at is I
feel like the killer hoping to get lucky that the trash is actually collected with with him still there is your hope
that you're you're getting lucky and concealing the body where there's other ways and avenues of doing that but for
whatever reason this killer or Killers just chose not to well like you said maybe this murderer knows the the trash
schedule and and that was a part of their plan or they just know the schedule of that building I mean this is
in the 70s a lot of these Town shut down by 10:00 at night no restaurants would be
open may maybe most of the bars would have been closed by that point there might not have been much of a nightlife
for this town in the 70s the third victim in this series takes us to January 1975 this is when another boy aged 13 he
goes missing on Friday January 17th 1975 this is David Evans this was a great little kid I know
they they all are and I'm not picking a favorite here Captain but I very much enjoyed reading about David Evans who he
was how he was in a lot of ways he was very much a lot like Brad and probably a lot like the other boys that were 12 or
13 years old growing up in bourman Ohio in the early to mid 70s David went to Borman Center Middle School the same as
Brad he played in the band he got good grades he didn't have a ton of friends David was not extremely outgoing or
quite as adventurous as Brad is record because he played the piccolo I I wanted for you being the musician I wanted to
find what instrument he played and I I could not find that well it's the piccolo and that's why he didn't have a
lot of friends David is said by most or all that I could find anyway to be more reserved more like to sit back observe
and study people rather than just to dive into situations David like Brad was a little
smaller for his age but David was a mighty little man this kid had the will and determination to overcome the
obstacles of Life David was born with what all of the reports are calling a narrow left hand so this is a hand that
for whatever scientific biological reason never fully formed before his birth so his left hand was a
thumb and two fingers however David never let this minor issue set him back in any way
David just like Brad played baseball and as we all can imagine any game where one
will be catching throwing and batting will well could get quite difficult for David situation well and maybe not so
hard once that fingers and and hand that you do have grows to full size but especially when you're a kid you know
throwing a baseball or throwing a football when you're a kid with small hands is it's hard enough let alone to
only have half of a hand I'm sure there were even those at the time that thought
maybe David would never be able to participate in certain Sports because of the situation but not this kid Captain
David's father would later tell the papers that David spent most of one entire summer when he was off from
school learning to play with this added difficulty so this kid I'm sure with a little help with you know from his
parents siblings and and Friends taught himself to play ball so that he could go
and sign up and play baseball with this uh added difficulty yeah and again with this U
handicap it would make playing certain instruments a lot more difficult and he wasn't obviously afraid of doing that he
wasn't going to let it set him back he was going to do the things that he wanted he was going to to try to do the
things that he thought would bring him enjoyment and it seems like he was very successful with that and that's one
thing that kind of it was inspirational to read about that and and really makes this story even sadder now oddly enough
here's another little nugget to this story that is just one of those haunting parts of a story that really just kind
of sticks with you this is something that Having learned this I will not be able to shake this from memory when it
comes to David Evans case as far as all of the reports go and I'm GNA say this twice because it
might take a second to set set in here David was last seen by his own father in passing okay so David was last seen by
his own father in passing the way that this works is is just like this so David was last seen at 6:00
p.m. by his father in their own neighborhood at the intersection of Stillson place and Wither's drive this
is just about two dozen houses away from his own so roughly 25 houses away from where he
lived is the last place that anyone has ever reported to have seen this boy Alive Now what's weird about this so
David is is walking home he's he's returning home he went to Borman Lake apparently he had been checking on
the lake from time to time to see if it had frozen over so he could skate on it well he went and checked that day and
it's my understanding captain that he did not bring ice skates with him he was going to check to see if it would be
thick enough to skate on at some point right he goes to the lake he finds that no the the ice is still not thick enough
and so he's returning home and now we know this because he happens to bump into his father his father's driving out
of the neighborhood leaving his father was attending night classes at Youngstown
University so at this intersection you know he sees his boy rolls down the window David walks over and talks to him
for a little bit tells him he went to the lake the ice isn't thick enough dad says heyy I I'm going to my night class
are you going home yes I'm going home okay I'll see you when I get back well that's ends up not being the
case unfortunately David's father returns home from his class and finds that David is not at their house
David never made it home that evening well like you said it's 10 10 12 houses away it's it's it's about two dozen hous
from from his his home so it's very very close this this boy is almost home yeah
he's minutes from being at his house you know Threat Level Midnight at this point
exactly so of course the Evans Family they immediately jump into search mode so it's not a long period of time for
his night class so David not being there is not no alarm arm bells are going off until the father returns and
says wait a minute I saw him on my way to my class an hour and a half ago and he was
very close to home telling me that he was next stop was home right I'm going home Dad the first thing that they do
they're in search mode they call the high school which was hosting a basketball game that night they wanted
to see well maybe did he bump into a friend and they decided to walk to the high school and watched the basketball
game or maybe he had a change of heart and went to the basketball game himself they very quickly confirm with teachers
there that no David is not at the high school nobody saw him there that night at the basketball game they call his
friends to no avail now the scary part is when they start calling hospitals looking for their son to see if maybe he
was involved in some kind of accident and no they still know David so very soon after taking these calls and doing
a little bit of searching themselves they call the Boardman police department they tell them that their 13-year-old
son David Evans did not return home earlier that night they told police David was 4 foot 10 Ines tall this is
going to sound almost like I'm reading the same description of the Bolino kid that we talked about in yesterday's
episode David Evans was 4' 10 in tall about 80 lbs he has medium length blonde hair brown eyes he had Scar Tissue on
his left eye this was from an operation that he had at some point he had the narrow left hand that we discussed they
said that he was wearing a blue plaid jacket with some red in it it had fleece lining and a fleece collar he was
wearing suede ankle high shoes a maroon and blue sweatshirt blue jeans and most likely his medical ID so David was
diabetic would often wear a medical ID to tell anybody should you find me and I'm not awake I'm unconscious I have
diabetes all right so what I see here Captain is a case that appears to be you know it's it's a couple years later but
it appears to be very much like the Brad Bolino case and again victimology victimology is almost the same almost
the same kid and uh like you said height weight and also just the circumstances yes it's it's getting dark and the kid
is returning back to his home on foot Friday nights too I believe both of these are on Friday nights and they're
both Friday evenings and really if if Brad is abducted after 7:30 and he was in fact in route to his
own house that Trek could only have taken him at at the longest what 45 minutes an hour so he should have been
home by 8:30ish yes and I know I know these are kids that are given the time so we don't
have you know Don always says it was about 7:30 so 8:39 he should have been home David Evans spotted by his father
at six o'clock we're getting a good time from David Evans father because David Evans father has an appointment to make
to he doesn't want to be late for his own class so he knows I saw my son and and he's going to give us a very
accurate time frame of 6 pm. and and again as you pointed out he's he's just blocks from his house he's just blocks
from his house at this a couple differences right away though is is in Bradley's case we he could have had a
distance to get to to go home yeah making it easier to want to hitch a ride from somebody yep as far as David's case
he was you know like you said 20 some houses from his his house I wouldn't assume that some would jump in a car the
major differences here are a few and and you got into some of those some additional information here as we said
David is diabetic from my understanding David required an insulin shot I believe
it was roughly like every 12 hours so he would have been due for his next insulin shot the next morning at
7:30 around breakfast time so the the major scary part here for the family is this is not a situation
where okay he might turn up tomorrow but if he doesn't uh in a couple days he'll
turn up no this is this kid needs his shot or bad stuff is going to start happening right and so with Brad with
his case we got this adventurous kid maybe hitchhikes rides David is much more reserved everybody said there's no
way this kid would have gotten into anybody's car willingly he wouldn't even approach the vehicle and talk to the
person so a little bit difference in personality and then of course the medical issues with David and then
there's this scary scary fact and oh my God if if I if this is the knife in the heart if
you're a parent with a kid who's only been missing a short period of time at 11:30 pm that night
David's hat that he was wearing he was wearing a red knit hat was found at Stillson place in withers's drive that
intersection the same intersection that his dad last saw him and this hat is confirmed by the parents to be that of
their sons David Evans they said that the police said that snow was trampled in about a three-
foot circle around this hat this to me points to an obvious Abdu [Music] it's you
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having a good week and we're finding you well and let's get back to our True Crime Story before we jump back in here
Captain I want to shift gears just very briefly because there's something that I
wanted to test out here on our show you know you and I and the garage listeners we understand that this show and
listening to the show being a part of the garage group is more more than just about this it's about trying to do some
good along the way I wanted to try a little experiment and I'm hoping that the listeners will join in and help us
with this we are very lucky to have a a great audience a lot of listeners people
that are very engaged and people that want to make good change themselves and when we've covered cases it's very
common I'm going to peel back the curtain here and let the listeners take a look behind the scenes for a minute
but very often when we cover a case we usually will get some information in the case you know we've we've seen this with
missing persons cases we've seen it with unidentified remains cases we've also seen it with uh cases that there are
suspects and information that's still needed and cold cases where we received some information or we have been told
hey when you guys covered this we received a few tips now I wanted to see if we could turn this into a bit of a
crowdsourcing technique and see if this works because we have such a great audience all over the world and a very
engaged audience I wanted to see if we could pull something off and I know that the Delaware County Sheriff's office
they have an outstanding warrant for a man named Thomas Blankenship and I'll give a brief description of him here but
we'll put a picture up on our social I want everybody to to send this out to everybody to retweet it to send it to
other people to see if we could track down somebody that law enforcement is looking for he's described as 6'2 175 lb
gray hair brown eyes and he is again wanted by Delaware County Sheriff's Office which is in central Ohio but he
has ties to West Virginia and really ties to all kinds of cities in the great state of Ohio but that doesn't mean that
he is in any of those locations so share his picture share his information and let's see if we can get a tip on his
location and his whereabouts so that he can be arrested and that warrant can be served now we were talking about this
David Evans case and how immediately to me Captain his hat being found kind of trampled in the snow at that
intersection looks to me like we always talk about there was somebody was killed
in their home there was no sign of a struggle or no sign of a Breakin this to me is sign of an abduction because it's
sign of a struggle right there in the streets where somebody probably pulled up maybe one or two persons they have a
confrontation with this boy and grab him and put him in their car you know we have we have his family we have his
teachers we have his coaches that are saying David was shy and reserved especially with strangers his parents
said they didn't think they that he would willingly go off with a stranger he's not the type to Hitch rides he's
shy reserved again this is echoed by everybody that knew David his teachers and his baseball coach and the hat
trampled in the snow points to a sign of a struggle and then an abduction right there in the street again a difficult
situation because you just saw your son within the last couple hours then you go
back and you're retracing his steps at least the steps that you know and and pretty quickly you find like you said a
sign of a struggle or at least a sign of something's not right here yeah that something that something happened I mean
you heard the initial suspicions that the parents had that maybe he went elsewhere went to the high school
basketball game and they checked and called friends and called the high school and you're you're being told no
over the phone but you're still hopeful and then you find his hat right trampled
in the snow and now that like confirms that oh we might be looking for him in the wrong places because he probably
didn't go somewhere willingly now I want to talk about the the police work that was conducted in the search for David
Evans the Boardman Police Department did a great job I mean these cases we say that they're unsolved and it's all these
years later but from everything I have seen captain and everybody that I've spoke to these cases are not unsolved
because of a lack of effort by the Boardman police department now they brought in
everybody that they could think of and and went to every they they went to every effort to try to locate these kids
in David Evans case for six days we got volunteers we got law enforcement searching for David on the ground they
even brought in a helicopter from the National Guard to try to help search and find David Evans the retired Boardman
police chief Glenn Bowers was in and remembers overlooking the snow in Borman Park and parts of mil Creek Park the
Borman police really worked this missing case well as I said they did All the Right Stuff calling on other agencies at
one point Captain they will even seek the help of the FBI now the FBI kind of denies this request and I say kind of
because while they didn't put any agents they didn't dedicate any agents to the case they did say you know if you need
our crime Labs or you need use of some of the resources that we have that you don't we are happy to help you just you
know send us your stuff and we we can test it we can help analyze anything that you want but they never dedicated
an agent to the case and I believe they were from what I've been told and what it looks like to me they requested the
FBI's help several times so that's why I say that these cases don't remain unsolved due to a lack of effort and
this is not a situation where we have a police department that's going no we don't worry we can handle this right uh
no they're saying yes please anybody that wants to help we will accept your help let's let's band together and find
out who who did this well I wish uh because like you said this is a community that's under 40,000 people so
it's just it's not that these people it's not that law enforcement in these areas are incompetent they're just
inexperienced with some of these things and even though this is there's a trend now going in their Community even more
of a reason to reach out for outside sources and and for to connect with other law enforcement agents that have
been through this process multiple times and just again not not better Just more
experienced and that's exactly right and what we've seen here too that I want to
go into the kind of the thoroughness of the Boardman police department and in their efforts to find David Evans so
I've seen documentation that the Boardman police officers were actively calling the high school and the
hospitals and other people it this after being told by the parents we've already
called you know those locations and they're saying no that's cool we're going to call them as well they
immediately called the state highway Troopers notifying them to be on the lookout for this missing boy and they
called surrounding jurisdictions and agencies as well to be on the lookout for this boy so if somebody was
transporting him somewhere or by chance if he had run away for some reason that maybe he would be spotted elsewhere now
David Evans case is different from Brad's um in the sense that Brad's had a lot of confirmed sightings that again
now we believe to be inaccurate based off of what the police have said about the investigation about their case David
Evans was was not the same way there there was one or two situations where somebody called in and said I might have
seen the Evans boy or this person might have information on the Evans boy now one thing that the police did and did
very well in this case too is they canvased the area the neighborhood because we have a crime scene that is
much smaller to work with than the potential abduction scene of Bradley Bolino right we have that intersection
where his father says I saw him there spoke to him there at 6: p.m is and in that same intersection near
that same intersection his hat is found so police canvased that neighborhood David evans's own neighborhood knocking
on doors and they took notes on every address you know who lived there if they did talk to somebody if they saw
anything if they heard anything most of the people really didn't see anything or
hear anything there were a few people that said I think I might have saw something but at the time didn't know if
it was anything the the best possible piece of information was somebody having seen a vehicle where they thought that
they saw a struggle between two people and the the problem with this this witness statement is it was actually two
witnesses that gave different statements it was a husband and wife that were returning home and they lived near that
intersection and they happened to be returning home roughly about the time that it would be believed that that
David was abducted he's last seen by his father talks to his father he's only 20
some houses away from his his destination yeah so we're talking about a very small time period of in which
something bad could have happened right and so this husband and wife again they have different stories of the same story
and it's not that it's not that either not to be believed it's just these are normal people going about their everyday
lives and they're W they're witnessing something that is only important later when you know that a child has gone
missing it's not important at the time and there was obviously nothing alarming enough about it for either of them to
take notice from the report I have read obviously one of this married couple was
driving the other was in the passenger SE and they had varying stories and these stories varied simply because the
person driving said yeah I thought I saw this but keep in mind I was paying much
more attention to the road and where I was going I wasn't looking all around or paying attention to what might be going
on with with uh pedestrians so some information unfortunately it doesn't help the police
too much because it's it's very vague information and it's a little unconfirmed when we have two people
saying that they saw slightly different uh things now this too like Brad's case was well reported in the newspapers at
the time The Vindicator covered this case and interviewed the police and family daily uh and continued to after
after his body was found and unfortunately he's he goes missing he's reported missing late on the 17th of
January and one thing we got to keep in mind too not only is this kid diabetic so you're scared of that we talked about
there being snow on the ground it's it's freaking cold out there right as a parent you're like my God my kids out
there missing and it's freezing so he's found his body is found January 23d 1975 basically David is missing for six
days before he's found yes last sighting at 6:00 and oddly enough he's found in the evening hour hours of the 23rd and
what's really weird about that too being found on the 23rd and we'll get into that information but you know we talked
about the FBI trying to get the FBI involved there was a call so at 1:10 p.m. on the 23rd this is the same day
that his body would later be found a man called the the police department and spoke to the
dispatcher and it was a very short call all the man said was do you want the Evans boy don't
hunt now this is 1975 so my guess here Captain is that that this may not have been recorded and this is just the
dispatcher taking a note and then typing up a report immediately afterwards but according to the dispatcher the caller
was a male caller and the caller said do you want the Evans boy don't hunt and then the call caller hung up the phone
I'm only bringing that up because I'm hoping somebody can tell me what to make of it I don't know I don't know how to
take that the best way that I can take that is that I know in other cases that we've covered that there have been phone
calls received or letters sent that later were confirmed to be just a complete hoax that had nothing to do
with the actual case when the case is solved but this to me almost like I thought when I first found this
information oh maybe we're getting some kind of Ransom request but it's such a short conversation and then again the
odd thing is the boy's body is found just hours later yeah when you get the call initially like you said don't hunt
what's that mean does that mean don't go looking for the child in in in rural areas does it mean that he's going to be
in the city somewhere or is this a setup call to set up some kind of negotiation
for a ransom but then like you said David's found a few hours after this phone call the other thing that's an
interesting thought on this phone call too here Captain is that the evans's family and this was not made
clear while he was still missing I believe this information only came out in the papers after his body was
recovered but his family had said that they were receiving strange phone calls before he even went missing that they
were getting uh hang-up calls which again could have everything to do with the case or could mean absolutely
nothing at all it's just it's too difficult to decipher well it's tough too when you have kids of this age this
is the perfect age where kids are playing around on the phone or when you called your buddy I I I had I had
several friends that I would call and if their their dad answer the phone I'm hanging up because he was mean and scary
you know if the mom if the mom answered the phone it was like Hey is Tommy there
you know you know anytime when you hear phone calls you know or or suspicious phone calls it it makes a juicier story
but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with these kids going missing right and it was the 70s and you know I'm I'm
not proud of this but uh you know me and my buddies used to hear people make prank phone calls on the radio and we
thought it was hilarious and we would try to do our own which were not very funny at all to be honest with you but
mine were great were fantastic we should have recorded those um it was illegal to
right right his his body unfortunately was found roughly at 5:00 pm. on January 23rd 1975 so the body is spotted by Hugh
McCall he's a realtor and he is his company is at 12 Boardman Poland Road this is not terribly far away from where
bolo's body was recovered again this is more in the businesse area of Boardman where both bodies are recovered now mind
you yes it's almost three years later but so the way that this works Captain is Mr
McCall he's at work all day at this location at his you know reality firm and him and his wife are getting ready
to leave his wife works for him or works with him there and they're getting ready
to leave and while they're leaving he's spots something in the bushes or as he puts it
in the bushes and when he goes over to look and investigate to see what it is unfortunately it turns out to be David
Evans which makes you wonder if if the call saying don't hunt means the kid is going to be found
within the city that's what I was trying to think think about there that that maybe there is some that there's
something going on with that call because he was found so close to to the time the same time frame but
so McCall calls the police right away and he says I think I found the boy that you are looking for so obviously he
knows what he's seeing he knows he we have a body here and he's phoning it into police and the dis or hands the
phone to the detective because this is what everybody at the police department has been working on for six straight
days right so this is as you pointed out Threat Level Midnight right everything's
extremely important here and now this is this is the biggest call well more so in
this case because like we said there was there was another case before this that
yes so the cops look the the Thomas case the Bradley case and the David case are
probably the three biggest cases in that you know time period that have ever happened to this small law enforcement
department yeah and you have a lot of these guys a lot of the officers and and the you know the men and women of the
Boardman Police Department have all worked now now they're sitting there going I'm [ __ ] and
in the course of five years I'm working my my third child homicide side case I mean so these guys in in the women of
Boardman police department they don't forget this stuff and so they they know the severity of it I could only imagine
the stress that it put on on these good people who are trying to do everything that they can to return these children
alive first of all and then if if need be bring some justice for the victim and the victim's family so
the dispatcher hands the phone to the detective it's detective belog who's working this case he there's two or
three that worked this case really really hard here over the course of a couple of years the the early parts of
the investigation and then obviously uh would have been replaced at some point but the detective gets on the phone and
says would you repeat what you just said and Mr McCall repeated I think I found the missing boy that you are looking for
and Mr Mcall goes on to say he is behind the famous recipe fried chicken restaurant on Route 224 so Mr McCall was
asked to give his location and his telephone number which he does he gives his business location he was told to
wait there for the police wait behind the famous recipe fried chicken building now his wife while he's you know this is
1975 so he's he has to run into his business to make this phone call to police his wife thoughtyou know what well
somebody should watch over the scene until either my husband returns to watch over it or the police arrive on the
scene very smart and good by her she says that she went over and stood there and and try to watch over the scene but
at some point she she couldn't do it it it at some point it it broke her down and she had to to leave so she's still
there but but not directly at the scene and the police are there very very quickly they basically find David
Evans Frozen there at the scene remember we talked about it being cold he's been
gone for six days and everything that I've reviewed Captain it it seems very difficult and
I've not seen anybody report when they think he was placed there I do know that Mr McCall and his wife both said the
same thing that obviously we didn't notice him there until till we called it in or we would have went over
and checked before and called it in and these two are going in and out of work each day so there's a lot of reason to
believe that well hold on because they're real estate agents right yeah they're going in and out of their
building probably more than most people because they're part of their job is to leave their office and to show people
houses unless they're bad at their job right they're not staying busy but again smart dumping spot because the person
wouldn't be constantly within their office and if you knew the vehicles that were SPO uh if you knew the vehicles
that were connected to that building and you knew that the vehicles were gone then you would know when there was a
good opportunity to leave a victim behind and one thing I do not like and I'm I'm not happy to report this to the
garage listeners because I do not have a good understanding on how this on where he was found so I don't
have a good understanding on what kind of landscaping we have here because in some reports it's stated as he's found
near an embankment or having been thrown over some type of embankment and then other Reports say just like the one we
reported where he's found behind some Bush bushes now could the bushes in the embankment all be the same location yes
right I don't have a picture of it from 1975 to tell you what exactly it looks like all I can do is go off of words
from people that are not here to tell me what it looked like what else do we know
about David when he was found you said he was frozen yes he was frozen so the way that this has been reported is that
what the malls say that they saw when they were getting into their car was that they saw a knee sticking up in the
snow in the bushes that's why they go over to investigate it's not just that they saw some random thing they saw what
looked to be a person or part of a person so they see this knee sticking up in the snow in the bushes the newspaper
reported that David's body he was found when he was found he was on his back with one knee bent and one leg straight
his hands were on his chest his clothing was pulled up to about the neck area but they believe police believe
that this is because he was dragged so that somebody pulled up and when they were disposing of the body they got him
out of their vehicle and then then had to drag him along the way so I guess if you're being drugged by your feet it
would naturally push your your shirt up as you're being dragged along the ground
right the coroner told the newspaper that an x-ray showed that David's left wrist had been broken
and that there was and I I want to clarify on this his words to the newspaper is that there was a half inch
in diameter by half inch deep perfectly round puncture wound that was found on David evans's back this would be roughly
about 3 in above the Belt Line and it's not directly in the center of the back the way that it looks to me Captain that
this would be a little bit to the right and they don't seem to understand what could have caused that
hole and I I do want to report here that this report is probably the most accurate because this is the coroner
saying it's a half inch in diameter and a half inch deep but I've also seen this
reported as big as 1 inch in diameter and one inch deep and as small as a quar inch in diameter and a quarter inch deep
so a little inconclusive on the exact size of that but the interesting thing here is we're
told per the coroner that the rist he could confirm that the wrist was broken after the boy's death they didn't know
exactly what caused this puncture wound or this hole but what they could say is that it didn't come from a knife and it
didn't come from a bullet I guess the other thing that we should clear up here too is they go on to say that it did not
it was not consistent with an insulin injection as well so unfortunately we know that David Evans
is diabetic the cause of death was determined to be a diabetic coma right this is going to cause a lot of problems
for the investigation in in my opinion and from what I've seen that has taken place over the years so because he dies
of you know I guess natural causes this diabetic coma there there becomes a debate if
this is a homicide or not well like you said we have three three young boys that
go missing that are found all three looks like some version of homicide like you said you could
debate this about David's where to me it leans more so that this is a homicide is
because we almost have a secondary crime scene with some kind of struggle and he he's obviously he taken
away from where he was heading to or him not ending up at his house to me means that this is a crime and you are
spot on my friend and I'll tell you what and that's why I'm giving mad Kudos and
props to the Boardman Police Department because again we've seen this situation where a
coroner an autopsy is conducted and we have someone who rules an OD or uh or an accidental death or in this case a a
diabetic coma and then the police department in that area just doesn't do anything with it because yeah and was
there any sign of sexual assault no here there is no sign of sexual assault which
or no obvious signs of sexual assault Accord in to the coroner and that I think further complicates the case now
kudos to the Boardman Police Department because they go okay well this is this is a suspicious death you know and
that's how we're going to treat this going forward we can't we don't have the coroner backing us up saying that this
was a homicide but we can say given the evidence that we have that we believe it
to be a suspicious death and they they treated it as such so they didn't just close up shop once he was found they
continued to investigate this for years and did a lot of really good boots on the ground work and you even have the
the the police officers and detectives who have come out and they said no look this is why it was a homicide right and
we believe that this was an abduction because as you pointed out the kid said he was going home he was very close to
his home when he said he was going home his hat is found in the snow his hat is found in the snow trampled so obvious
signs of a struggle probably somebody grabbed him off the streets put him in their vehicle and then here's the other
thing he's not just going to die of a diabetic coma as soon as he's you know at at 6:01 p.m. right after his dad
finds him or talks to him no he didn't need that insulin shot until 7:30 a.m. the next morning so he's not going to
start to get into trouble with that until the next morning so again somebody kept this kid kept him where I don't
know but the other thing they were able to determine was the the contents of his stomach the
contents found in his stomach did not match up with what was known to be his last meal so signs of a struggle in the
street he obviously was somewhere for a long period of time before his diabetes took
over and he ate a meal and it's it's reported to be a a considerably large meal so he was fed something or ate
somewhere and the police have gone on to say look the broken wrist this took place after he died he didn't just sneak
off in the middle of the night hang out somewhere all night long even though he knew that he needed an insulin shot eat
a meal somewhere and then decide to curl up in the snow Behind These bushes and die and then break his own
wrist afterwards you know so they're they're pointing out that there's obvious signs
to see seasoned detectives and seasoned police officers that are saying we have signs that are pointing to not only an
abduction but then somebody having dumped the body after the boy [Music] died and Captain this is such a large case
spanning the course of 5 years three different homicides next week we're going to revisit these cases we got much
more to discuss in all three cases as well as are they connected and if so who are some of the suspects that could have
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Boardman, Ohio is a great place to live and raise a family. Located in Northeast Ohio close to the Pennsylvania border directly south of Youngstown. Back in the 70’s Boardman was growing but some of the citizens were growing concerned that something strange and terrifying had come to town. Three boys were killed in the span of just five years. This week we take a look at these three still unsolved cases. One of the cases is far from cold the other two well that’s up for debate. The other debate that has always been a hot one, are three cases connected in anyway? Find out this week on True Crime Garage.

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Brief Summary

Three unsolved cases of young boys abducted in 1970s Boardman, Ohio, highlighting their tragic stories and police investigations.

Key points

Innovative Surgery Predictions. Could surgeons use a patient's anatomy to create 3D printed organ models?
True Crime Garage Introduction. Hosts Nick and Captain welcome listeners and share their beer of the week.
The Unsolved Case of Thomas Bard. Thomas Bard was found badly beaten and later died without regaining consciousness.
The Haunting Story of David Evans. David Evans, a determined boy, goes missing just blocks from home.
The Search for David Begins. David's family immediately jumps into search mode after he doesn't return home.
Urgent Medical Needs. David, being diabetic, requires insulin shots, adding urgency to the search for him.

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