Should We Carry Our Own Zip Ties | Forensic Files

Are we going to talk about the man who got sucked out of the airplane? >> I'll talk about that all day and I'll
also talk about the quote that his wife said who was holding him in and said, "If you go, I go."
>> Yeah, she was holding him and said >> out that hole, too. >> Well, I thought of you immediately
because when someone tried to open the door on our flight you kept saying I could have
been sucked out and I thought that was impossible because of the pressure. But apparently at a low enough altitude,
which we were at it is possible. >> Have we told that story yet? >> Yes, many times.
>> We told the story about the essential oils and almost getting the plane grounded in Nebraska, but I I don't know
if we've told that story about how Lauren and I were on an airplane when a woman tried to open the door, a woman in
wild distress, um of course, and uh and it was pretty terrifying and Lauren and I were very shook up landing at
LaGuardia, an emergency landing, slam onto the ground. I think about that a lot.
>> about all the time. I think the worst part I know we've talked about it, but I
think the worst part for me was that the flight attendant just went limp. Like >> Did nothing.
>> I really internalized that message that like >> She just kept screaming, "Stop." But
didn't do anything. >> If the if she didn't even get up out of her seat. I was like, "If the if there's
a problem, no one's in charge." >> Yeah, that was that said everything you need to know. And I And I think that
there are flight attendants and you've heard about these heroic flight attendants on flights who deliver babies
and you know, give CPR and restrain people zip ties. Do you think they keep zip ties on planes? I mean, it's a
really very useful item. >> our own? >> Should we carry our own zip ties? Lauren, I want to talk to you about
something that I did last night for the first time and I talked to you earlier today and I said I'm not going to tell
you exactly what I did because I I feel very, very conflicted about this and I feel like
>> [laughter] >> It's not a psychedelic, okay? But >> psilocybin? >> Yeah, Lauren, I did acid. No, Lauren, I
did something that I that feels like a slippery slope. It feels like it felt like I was doing acid. I have been for
the past week sick. I never I know. I'm very lucky. I don't get sick very often. When I get sick, I really
get sick. But I don't get sick very I haven't been sick in a long time. And I got sick and I think it was just heat
and 4th of July parades and I was traveling and I don't know. But I've been sick and I hate it and it's and I'm
you can't shake it. And around here if you get sick in my in this part of the world, you might have
read the op-ed with the front of the opinion section in the New York Times was are ticks coming to get us? All
about tick-borne diseases. And I if you've ever had a if you've ever had Lyme disease, which I have had, you are
you you treat it like the plague. It's the terrifying. >> There are I'm going to interrupt you
briefly to say my yard not you know, this is my first summer without a dog and so the yard is overrun with rabbits
and I think it's mostly pretty fun except I remember reading this Washington Post like medical mystery
long read about this woman who had Lyme disease and it turned out it was from like a rare
tick on a on a rabbit in her yard. So this has been on my mind. >> Yeah, tick tick disease is terrifying,
horrible. I'm scared of them. And I haven't really been able to shake this cold this something and it kind of it's
probably I read this New York Post article which said that people who are stressed at work get sick the minute
that they >> relax. >> Relax. [snorts] But anyway, it hasn't it didn't better but
>> you were in college like you would not be sick and then you'd go home for holidays and you'd immediately get sick
cuz your body like can finally unclench? >> Yeah. [snorts] Anyway, I got sick of it after yesterday. I just
I'm over it and I was worried and so I did something. So, I'm in a part of the world where my primary care doctor isn't
here. And >> saying you're in a part of the world? You're just in Massachusetts.
>> Yeah, but there's not your doctor isn't here. There's not doctors the hospital
is an hour away. I mean, it's it's not or there's no urgent care that's not there's not like a lot of
urgent cares. Do you understand what I'm saying? This is besides I'm going to tell you
what I did. I went online and I went to I Googled doctors who can prescribe antibiotics.
>> What do you need antibiotics for? >> Cuz I thought that I maybe had Lyme and I wanted to get in front of it or an ear
infection. This is besides the point. I Googled this and I would in first I got on the
screen I was answering these questions and then I was like, oh, they think I have an STD.
So, it was a lot of gonorrhea screening I was I clicked the wrong thing. I went back and I clicked my symptoms ears,
headaches, soreness and then I paid I paid $39 and then I paid an extra $20 for ex- for
expedited. 5 minutes later I got a treatment plan that said that a 10-day course of doxycycline
>> Oh, no. >> had been prescribed to me and was waiting for >> overuse of antibiotics is going to ruin
it for all of us? >> Lauren, I know. I never take it. This is desperate measures. I'm Let's not Let's
not debate whether I should take the actual medicine. Let's just talk about the fact that for $39 and 5 minutes
later and a picture of my driver's license, there's an antibiotic waiting for me.
>> You have to go get it at the pharmacy? >> I already tried this morning and it
wasn't there. It's a thing. pill. But I I But how do you feel about that? How do you feel about us
telehealth? Telehealth without even talking to a doctor. For an extra $10 I could have the doctor call me.
But he did exactly whoever this AI doctor doctor AI did exactly what I wanted which was a 10-day course of
doxycycline. >> I've never done it. I'm interested. >> I know. I just >> I go see my primary care physician who's
been my doctor for 12 years. I'm obsessed with her. I have to wait 4 months. >> Yes, but you should if you are up to
date you should be able to call and say I feel this way >> or I could send a little MyChart
message, but if I want to see her it's going to be a long ride. >> I haven't taken the pills yet.
>> Jillianne recently was like do you have a primary care physician and I said yes
and I sent her the website for my doctor who I love. And then she Jillianne pointed out that
on the woman's bio it says she speaks 12 languages. I believe it. >> Well, I don't know what to say. I feel I feel
weird about it. I feel odd about it. I feel like I'm scared to take it. I feel like this is a wild west. You could just
stockpile for apocalypse. >> I mean I don't think you can get oxy, but I think that you know you have to
I think you can get a range of antibiotics. Is my thought. It Antibiotics that don't make you high.
>> And you just sign a million waivers so if you have a negative >> Two waivers?
>> Then you they're just able to say it's totally on you. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> I And I know Lyme protocol and I know
>> Are you going to take it? >> I don't know. I got I'm scared of course, but it's there.
>> I know. I see I Well, I take probiotics every morning. The the one of the sponsors that I've
continued to use for years Seed. >> Probiotic. You do like it. >> I take it every morning. I don't even
know if it does anything for anymore, but if I don't take it, I feel >> Something is missing.
>> anxious. >> I have been taking probiotics for years and I stopped recently cuz I was I'm of
the opinion now that less is more. The fewer supplements we take the better. It's my new ride.
>> Yeah, I'm I'm kind of on that ride, too. You know what? I've also just stopped
caring about tracking anything on my Apple Watch. And I know we talked about >> Welcome to freedom.
>> It does feel free. I you know, I don't I'm not going to have inflated calorie
numbers, you know, cuz I don't really care. I mean, I like it for seeing how long you run, but I
haven't exercised in 2 weeks cuz I've been sick, so >> Yeah, just a little less tension, a
little bit less to pay attention to. It's nice.

Lauren and Phoebe talk about the time a woman tried to open the door of their plane while they were in-flight. Plus, Phoebe's feelings about a prescription from an AI doctor, and a "less is more" approach to supplements.

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Brief Summary

Hosts discuss a flight incident, telehealth prescriptions, and health tracking changes.

Key points

The Airplane Incident. A terrifying moment when a woman tried to open the airplane door mid-flight.
Telehealth Experience. A discussion about the pros and cons of telehealth and online prescriptions.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

"If you go, I go.".

A poignant quote from a wife holding onto her husband during a crisis.

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Tension

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