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episode questioning what was going on with this boyfriend of our missing person roxan
POF well I don't know if this makes anything any easier here but it certainly fills in some of the Gap in
time that we were questioning yesterday and this comes in the way of well a possible Alibi coming from detective
James Scott who spoke to a desk clerk at the Budget Inn remember the Budget Inn is where Roxanne according to Lewis was
last seen she stormed off after a heated argument the desk clerk made an official
statement with Austin PD that she saw roxan leaving that night backing up Lewis's story she also says that she saw
Lewis pleading with roxan to come back and then later this clerk says that she herself
went to ls's room when she got off work this around 10 p.m. and the two of them hooked up the clerk was with him from
about 10 p.m. till 3:00 a.m. according to the clerk statements and lewis' statements as well and so she could
vouch for his whereabouts during that 5-hour window according to ID disappeared which ran a episode on The
Disappearance of roxan the clerk took and passed a polygraph test but this Alibi for Lewis
seems well a little convenient I guess but if she took and passed a polygraph test maybe it is accurate one thing I do
question though is I would like a little more detail on this story regarding what
the official statements were from this desk clerk where is her vantage point at this hotel would it been a natural area
you know does she have access to a space that she could have seen roxan walking off or is she simply believing Lewis's
story and regurgitating it saying and telling the same story to the police at a much later
date the family and this is Rox San's family looked into Rox San's cell phone records and they say that they saw
something unusual they found a ton of calls starting being made on Rox San's phone
while it was in Lewis's possession now we have to keep in mind it is Lewis's own words that he was the one in
possession of this cell phone so there's no argument there there were a ton of calls on July 7th that's the night in
question and over 300 calls between July 8th and the 12th so a lot of activity on
on the phone even after the time frame when Lewis says that roxan left and again he by his own admission was in the
possession of her cell phone he has no phone himself detective Scott described the calls as rapid fire and with calls
being made every minute or so he's even on record saying that it seems to him like it's someone trying to desperately
establish some kind of Alibi by calling all kinds of people this was to a long list of phone numbers but it also
included other motels in the area local chat lines remember back in 2000 the early 2000s you would see those ads on
TV at all hours especially late at night hey Lonely Tonight call this number hot
local singles want to meet you it was that kind of phone numbers that someone was calling using her pH those are
depressing are you lonely tonight I'm lonely every night many of the calls were to an ex-girlfriend of Lewis's who
lived in Albuquerque New Mexico this woman she denied that she answered the calls but of course the phone records
would tell us otherwise and then there was the missing ID remember we said yesterday that she Roxanne if she did
storm off after a heated argument like LS would tell us she left a lot of her personal possessions in the motel room
which he later gave back to Roan's family again some question about the clothing but anyway we still have the ID
because we've always been told in this case that roxand she took off and the one thing that she did take with her was
her state ID so this item is missing as well as roxan of course on July 13th so this is 6 days
after roxan was last seen a man named Jeffrey Moore was arrested at a runberg Motel
6 right near the budget in motel where roxand was once staying Jeffrey Moore picked up a dancer at the perfect 10
men's club asking the dancers's husband quote how much for her the husband said that she could provide private dances at
another location but she would not be sleeping with Jeffrey Moore so the three of them drove to a
motel where Moore managed to lock the husband out of the motel room and then began assaulting the dancer he was
trying to rip off her clothing and he beat her up pretty bad when she started screaming the husband grabbed a nearby
security guard his Nam Brian Parker and a pass key and the two barged into the room Jeffrey Moore ran out of the room
but he ends up leaving behind his wallet he also left behind his hearing aid Jeffrey Moore is deaf and required the
use of a hearing aid so Moore goes back to the motel this in an attempt to get his stuff hearing aid and wallet but he
is arrested when he returns to the motel and Parker the security guard opens up Jeffrey Moore's wallet and he sees
something important in Moore's wallet was a Texas state ID that did not belong to him and it did not belong to the
woman that he was going to be charged with assaulting it belonged to a young woman and that's of course is our
missing person roxan ptov but this was not put together with the reports of the missing young woman for a while
from my understanding here Captain what happened is police believed it would belong to the assault victim assault
victim says no that's not me that's not my ID doesn't belong to me right they don't know what to do with it but they
do know they're going to be charging Jeffrey Moore with assault charges and so this ID belonging to I mean they
obviously have the information of the person on there but they've not made the connection that it is in fact a missing
person so it kind of sits in an Evidence l Lo ER for quite some time now it comes time to return this
stuff so the person in charge of returning the items that don't belong to the person being charged figures out oh
wait a second we can't return this because the person this ID belongs to is missing long story short is this man
Jeffrey more turns out to be in possession of a missing woman's state ID and we know
he's violent that's right and I would go ahead and label him to be a rapist or or something of that
nature because that appears to me what he was attempting to do that night and thankfully this was stopped before it
could go even further but from my understanding he beat up this woman pretty bad this guy he again he's deaf
so he he had to be interrogated and this is about questions regarding Roan's disappearance so they sit this guy down
and with the help of an interpreter they're they're hoping to get some answers initially he told the police
that he was friends with roxan and that's how he ended up with her ID see this is what I I have issues with
in this case we have this situation where the boyfriend says all right well she left she left on her own she was mad
at me uh and that seems somewhat believable right because he seems like a guy that you would have every reason
that you can think of to be mad at but it's weird that it's like this small little item oh she didn't take all
this stuff and that's easy to point out because it's she physically left it here
it's all here in front of me but she took her ID with her I mean was she waving it as she walked out the door
leis I mean it just it seems like an odd thing for him to notice that she actually took this item with her yeah
and then that being as weird as I think it is as suspicious as I think it is it ends up turning up with this guy this
other loser he has her ID he's in possession of it and his first explanation is well
we're friends what do you mean your friends you have her ID did you know she was
missing you know you had her ID for 6 seven days did you help look for her did why didn't you bother to notify anybody
that you have this missing person's state ID we had to pull it off of you during the course of an arrest well then
that story's not quite good enough so he changes that story a little bit Jeffrey
Moore then told police that he was friends with both Roxanne and Lewis but not super close only knew them
a little bit but he had recently drove the both of them on a cigarette run to pick up some smokes at a local Walgreens
or a dollar store I've heard the story present in both ways well couple things I would like to know if this individual
was the one to bring up Lewis or if the cops brought up Lewis you know what I mean like oh I'm friends
with Rox oh yeah but I'm also friends with Lewis a little bit if he brought Lewis up without the cops knowing then
he's more believable so he says that it's during the course of helping the two of them out taking them to go pick
up cigarettes that she left her ID in his car and he wanted to return it to her that that was his intention but of
course now he's arrested for these assault charges well this brings up a interesting point and Lewis doesn't tell
us this but maybe he could before this argument got so heated that she left was she preparing to leave
anyway ways like hey I got to grab my debit card I got to grab my ID cuz I'm going to run down the street and get
some smokes and then they get into this argument and then she leaves and that's how Lewis knows what she took could be
could be what we do know is that what we do know is this is the story that Jeffrey Moore presents to the
police about the cigarette run and later when questioning Lewis Lewis confirmed the story when he was interviewed with
police but it seems like the details of this story differ between the two accounts you know depending on who you
ask Lewis or Jeffrey so then Moore provides another story to police and well yeah because I
mean two is not enough you need a couple more stories he says he wasn't friends with Lewis or roxan at all that he had
just met the two of them at a club and befriended them there he then gave them a ride to runberg and roxan dropped her
ID in his vehicle at that time what whatever the case may be if one of those three stories is truthful
who can say but regardless we have a missing person who he is in possession of their state ID and he's giving
multiple different stories as to how he obtained that ID well and also what we know about this individual is if you
befriend him at a club and that once you leave that club he will lock you out of
the room why he tries to beat the [ __ ] out of your wife and tries to rape her that's what kind of friend he is the
other thing that I find incredibly suspicious is we have the boyfriend who isn't
denying that they knew this man the boyfriend would look a lot more innocent to me if he's saying yeah I I don't know
who that person is he oh my God he must have picked her up after she left here after she stormed off in this
dangerous area no that's not what he's saying he's saying we knew this guy that yeah we went on a cigarette run with him
well supposedly Lewis has an alibi at least for a time period of the night what about this guy's Alibi well he
again he's telling three different stories as to how he would have had any interaction with roxan at all so he has
three aliis yeah and when you have three aliis you have no alibi detective Scott
working the case describes Jeffrey Moore as a sexual predator who was known to rough up working girls and officially he
is considered a person of interest in Roan's disappearance his car was processed by the Austin ped crime lab
but it does not appear that they came up with anything against Jeffrey Moore now
remember we said that Lewis had called an ex in Albuquerque multiple times in the days
after roxan vanished using Roxanne's phone and she told police that she didn't answer his calls but according to
an article by David lore for Crime Library quote between July 8 2006 and July 9 2006 there were 22 calls placed
from Roan's cell phone to this woman ranging from 1 to 49 minutes in length so judging by that it sounds to me like
Lewis was talking to someone in those 22 calls Elizabeth and Rosal Elizabeth and Rosalyn Roxanne's
sister both spoke with this woman personally Rosalyn says that the ex admitted to her off the record that
called her and said quote I'm in trouble I effed up he didn't elaborate Elizabeth
says that I spoke with her once but she said she didn't want to get involved she
said she was getting her life straight she had been in a woman's shelter because of her relationship with Lewis
walls here's a very interesting twist in this story and not a good one Rox San's
Mother Elizabeth said that when she and her daughters went first out looking for
roxan remember they were walking around outside of the motel where roxan supposedly stormed off from this is just
in the days after her disappearance that they met a sex worker who was working the local area who looked at the flyer
the missing person's flyer that they were handing out she said that the woman kissed a cross that was hanging from a
chain around her neck and promised the family that she would help out by looking out for the missing girl MH now
about 3 weeks after Roxanne was last seen her mother Elizabeth got a call this is not the kind of call you want to
get either this is the kind of call where they are asking you to bring in your daughter's dental records down to
the Austin Police Department this is because they had found a female body under a bridge the
body turned out not to be Roxanne instead it was the sex worker who had promised to help look for her her name
was L her name was Loretta Lynn Roberts and she had been murdered with paper towels shoved down her throat and dumped
just a few miles from the budget in now whether or not her death is in any way connected to Rox ANS is really anyone's
guess but even if it's not connected it certainly speaks to the dangerousness of
this area where roxan was last scene well you kind of have two scenarios here right she
doesn't it's not like she's far from home that she couldn't get a ride back home right or that she if she had um her
cell phone or if she could have found a pay phone she could have called somebody
she knew and had them pick her up but that's never happened and we have no eyewitnesses saying that they've seen
her so we really kind of come to two options here right that she was met with Foul Play by her
boyfriend or she you believe his story and she took off in this horrible area and she met was met with Foul Play there
yeah it's it's a difficult story because it doesn't really have any light at the
end of the tunnel in my opinion sometimes with these missing persons cases we say well there's a chance that
they're out there somewhere and that we could find them or they may return on their
own but that doesn't seem to be what the general consensus is here with Rox Sand's case and I say that because in
2011 Rox San's case was declared to be a Cold Case homicide investigation now police publicly won't say why the case
designation has changed and that was in 2011 so 10 years later and we're still not 100% certain why the designation
changed now meanwhile Lewis walls was sent to prison in 2013 convicted on charges of burglary and bail jumping for
an October 2012 arrest he was sentenced to 2 years in prison and he has not been
eliminated of course as a suspect in Rox S's case police still believe that he was involved or at the very least knows
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today [Music] all right cheers mates cheers and we're talking about Austin and we'll be in Austin Texas this
week it's exciting God willing so it's obvious here captain that police acknowledge that they
believe that Foul Play befell roxan and it seems with them saying that Lewis is a person of interest Moore is a
person of interest that they seem to think that there's probably likelihood that one if
not both of them were somehow involved in this detective Scott says his theory is that Lewis wanted roxan to do some
things that she probably did not want to do was not willing to do and Moore Jeffrey Moore who was known to
frequent nightclubs dancers sex workers was somehow involved and the detective says that he knows that Lewis has
probably bragged about what he did to roxan this being in certain company but they can't get anyone to go on
record and state that you know Lewis told me this or told me a different story than what he told you guys and
Lewis has not been Cooperative with police I want to make that very clear where it may seem on the surface that he
was at one point or was even briefly he has spoke to police he has been interviewed by police but at some point
he decided he wasn't going to talk anymore and he hasn't since in fact he's dodged them multiple times when they've
tried to set up and make arrangements to speak with him further of course Rox San's family is also convinced that
Lewis was responsible for roxan disappearance possibly in collusion with more but of course their hands are tied
as well there's not evidence we don't have the physical evidence to push this case
forward Roxanne's family has never given up searching for her Elizabeth has lived
in Indiana since 2014 but every year on the anniversary of Rox Sand's disappearance and presumed Murder She
travels back to the area with her daughter ERS and longtime boyfriend Patrick Doyle to hand out flyers near
the motel they even got a billboard donated for the cause and they've appeared on America's Most Wanted
Elizabeth maintains a Facebook page for her daughter and has posted on webo she says she has a special friendship with
Detective Scott who has vowed to see the case through to the end and it sounds like Lewis walls and Jeffrey Moore
continue to have their issues and brush ups with the law from my understanding Captain Jeffrey Moore now lives in
Houston and Lewis walls is still in Austin and last I heard he was still a free man I have heard and read Roan's
family go on the record multiple times and say that they have evidence they've talked to people that state that Jeffrey
Moore and Lewis walls have more of a friendship or relationship or whatever you want to
call it than what is obvious in this case that they seem to have known each other for a long time that they run in
the same circles and that I think that only adds to the idea that maybe they were involved in this thing together the
thing that we have to point out here that should be obvious is that Lewis walls if he did something to
roxan look most murders result as two people getting into an argument that leads to a physical altercation one
person loses control ends up killing the other person it could be as simple as he
repeated a previous act we have some evidence to suggest that he punched her in the face
punched roxan in the face breaking her nose right it could be as simple as he struck her again she fell and hit her
head on something or it was a deadly punch and he went to assault her repeated abuse and she ended up dead and now he
had a whole different set of problems on his hands the weird thing though is this
dude leis walls does not have a vehicle and murdered persons don't just walk out and bury
themselves someone has concealed this young woman's body somewhere and that's why we don't know where she is
today so I see a situation here Captain where it looks to me like Lewis walls is
up against it he's backed into a corner this is a guy that I don't think he could have covered this up and concealed
it himself if others weren't actively involved in the actual murder itself I don't see how we don't have at
least one other person maybe multiple people involved in covering the thing up right we have the budget in desk clerk
that seems like a possibility could have been helping we have Jeffrey Moore seems
like a possibility could have been helping who else Lewis Wall's mother who would have helped this guy somebody
with a vehicle probably helped this guy now unlike some of the other cases we've
covered in the garage in which everyone seems to know or have a strong belief about who did it
who's responsible but there's little hope of any new evidence ever surfacing there were some recent developments or
movements in Roan's case this comes from rosalin Schultz Rox San's sister who of
course has never given up the search for her sister in 2019 she was looking at the phone records from Rock Sand's phone
back from 2006 and she noticed something she saw that there were airtime charges on Rox
an's bill on the night that she went missing these were some unexplainable charges that could only be roaming
charges now remember L said that roxan walked out on him at around 8:30 p.m. but the records show that Roxanne's
phone was on the move it was out of her coverage Zone around this exact time so back then 2006 T-Mobile which was her
carrier had the setup where they had you had your network right which often back
then was sadly limited just to the the city that you lived in or draw a big circle around the city and maybe it
carried it out a little bit further than that if you were outside of your network then you would receive these
charges what these charges indicate is that her phone was not in the area where Lewis says that they were at the time
that she walked out on him and also where the hotel clerk says they were correct so if the hotel clerk saw
something saw Rox sandstorm storming off then how did it happen at that time at 8:30 it didn't is what the phone would
tell us who I I think it would be very hard to believe and hard to convince anyone else
the probability of that phone being in anyone else's possession at 8:30 p.m. on that Friday other than Rox ANS or
Lewis's but whoever was in possession of that phone they were outside of her network right so they were not at the
budget in hotel at 8:30 p.m. on that Friday so somebody's lying and I think you're smart here Captain to point out
that sounds like at least two people are are lying in this situation well I don't
know if I believe that the hotel clerk is lying because I I think her coming forward and talking to police at all is
is in a way to help especially somebody that would be in that area often um and would
see what kind of bad crimes were happening especially to women in that area but just because she pass passes a
polygraph test doesn't mean she could be she could technically be lying without knowing she's lying she
she could also be lying and knowing that she's lying I mean there's a reason why
those tests are not admissible in the court right right no she could she could have P she could have uh passed the test
with with being able to lie or she sees a girl walking away from the hotel roughly around that time period and she
didn't know roxan so all all she has to say is well okay well I I saw this girl walk away I
I went down to this guy's room I hooked up with him to till 3: then I left all that could be
true she did see somebody leaving the hotel it just wasn't the missing person roxan then who was lwis speaking with
because she says she saw roxan and Lewis well she said that she saw yeah she saw
him pleading with her I don't know I'm just saying we have no way of knowing if that was roxan or
not right I don't again I don't think that she left I I mean who else would it be that's her story that she saw roxan
and Lewis walking away together that lwis was pleading with her to stay yeah but she doesn't know who roxan
is so I'm just saying she might be misidentifying a person that there was a person that was walking away don't know
who that person was I think it's a little difficult though because I I want to be clear here when when you say came
forward to help this woman we don't know that she came forward what likely took place is that the police are questioning
people at the hotel she works there and that's how they came across this information I don't have any belief here
that this woman came forward to tell this story if she did come forward to tell this story to help it sounds more
to me like she came forward to defend Lewis and to help Lewis rather than help in the search for roxan I'd really like
to know if law enforcement was able to figure out if there was two Hotel keys I just don't
buy rockan being the type of person to storm out without having access to be able to come back and get
her stuff that part of Lewis's story makes little to no sense to me I agree with you 100% that part of lewis' story
makes zero sense to me in fact lewis' story altogether doesn't make any sense I think the whole story is a complete
lie and Fabrication I think that it makes little sense that she stormed out without a key very unlikely because I
don't think she stormed out at all I think that something happened whether it be an argument between the two of them
or he was trying to get her to do something that she was not willing to do and he attacked her yeah and I certainly
think that 100% that both of these guys are involved I think that it just muddies the waters a little bit that we
have this one guy that you go okay well he makes sense as a suspect and Lewis wall makes sense as a suspect so that
makes it a little conflicting between the two but when you see that we have the family that point out that these
guys know each other they at one time ran in the same circles that I think that these two are in this together
Lewis walls could not have concealed this body by himself no he's a he's a [ __ ] but again he's a Lewis is a a bag
of [ __ ] from the windows to the walls and Jeffrey Moore is more of a pile of [ __ ] so I think it was
something possibly along the lines like you said if you take out the idea that she
was even there to storm out it's possible that if he knew and and okay it's not possible we know he
knows Jeffrey more but it's possible that he said Hey Jeffrey you pay me this and I'll leave her alone with you or
something to that nature and I think both Lewis and Jeffrey know exactly what happened and if this hotel clerk is
lying but somehow pass the polygraph come forward and say something because this
girl was murdered this girl's missing her family doesn't have ANS maybe there's something that you did not
tell police maybe there's something you did tell them that was a lie that could really help this
investigation and it's up to you to come forward I see no chance that rock sandstorms out and
leaves all of her stuff behind except for an ID I see no chance that she did that and
then let's compound that with somehow this other violent male ends up with her ID we have two violent males that are at
the centerpiece of this case we have police on record and they do not do this very often they don't go
on record very often and say you know what we've redesignated this case to a Cold Case homicide right they have
reason to believe that and I don't think you have to use much of an imagination to come to that same
conclusion the other thing too is they have both they have said that both individuals are Persons of Interest
named both of them as Persons of Interest in this case it's amazing to me that no one has rolled on either of
these guys I share the same Theory as the detective working the case that Le walls has told somebody something in the
last 15 years he's told somebody what happened what went down who was involved that's the people that we need
to come forward those are the people that should be listening to and responding to the calls for help from
the public and they can be anonymous and again Austin investigators have stated publicly that they believe that either
Lewis walls or Jeffrey more or both are likely responsible for what happened to roxan in fact detective Scott has said
that he is certain that neither Lewis nor Moore has told police everything they know about roxan detective Scott
says he is very frustrated that although he has spoken to Lewis several times now
Lewis won't cooperate with police and he doesn't have enough to bring Lewis in he
told the chronicle again this is from detective Scott quote people don't realize that although I feel that he
could be more forthcoming I don't have any legal rights to force him to do anything and until I get the kind of
forensic evidence that would allow me to go to a grand jury to force him to answer questions I can't I mean it's not
like in the movies where you can just go to someone and say well we're taking you
downtown because if they don't want to all we can say is well that's a real bummer we can't just throw you in a car
but that's not all detective Scott says Lewis just doesn't care that he's a suspect he's no stranger to bad acting
so it's not a huge burden for him basically Scott continues I've got two violent offenders both of them are lying
to me they're both hiding criminal activity but I think one of them is hiding a murder per the chronicle in
regards to the phone records quote the records reviewed by the chronicle show approximately 48 phone calls made from
Roan's phone on July 7th including the potential roaming charges for 12 calls between 6:44 p.m. and 8:42 p.m. the time
period during which roxan left the hotel according to Lewis walls what this means
is that Lewis's story that they were at the hotel and roxan left without out her
phone and he stayed behind is not true in March of 2021 detectives sent out a media
reminder that they still need the Public's help this year they hooked up with some of the local news outlets as a
reminder that they were still working the case roxan is still missing and here is where you can send any information
that you should have Rox San's family is to be commended for their commitment to
keeping her case now 15 years old in the public eye but they are tired frustrated
and becoming hopeless her sister Rosalyn recently said to Fox 7 Roxanne's case is
a murder without a body and we don't have any proof or evidence of a murder and we don't have a body they take
comfort that the investigators agree with them that Lewis walls and or Jeffrey Moore are likely responsible but
that is a cold comfort when nothing is happening roxan ptto is a Caucasian female she has light brown hair and
green eyes her navl is pierced and her ears are double pierced she has a mole on the right side of her neck and a
quarterized scar on her left knee she has previously fractured her nose and one of her Upper Front Teeth is false
her nickname is Roxy today she would be 33 years old if you can help help in any
way please call the Austin Police Department's missing person's unit at 512 974 5250 or if you have any information and
wish to remain anonymous you can call Crim Stoppers at 512 472 tips that's 512- 47284
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garage.com and join in on the conversation Colonel do we have any recommended reading for this week we do
not Captain how about a little recommended listening how about no good day sir I wanted to read not listen to
things well this is for the folks out in listener land if you should find yourself traveling this week well then
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This week we cover a strange missing persons case out of Austin, Texas. Roxanne Paltauf vanished in 2006 while staying at a seedy motel with her boyfriend. This case is considered now 15 years later to be a cold case homicide. Foul Play of course is strongly suspected. Join us in the Garage as we try our best to keep the story out there. Police need the public’s help. This is truly a case when the person(s) responsible have told someone what they did.

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Brief Summary

Roxan Pto's disappearance involves her boyfriend Lewis Walls and Jeffrey Moore, raising suspicions of foul play and conflicting alibis.

Key points

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The Assault Incident. Jeffrey Moore's violent behavior raises alarms as he assaults a dancer.
Missing ID Connection. Jeffrey Moore found with a missing woman's ID, raising suspicions.
A Mother's Nightmare. Roxanne's mother receives a chilling call about a body found, not her daughter.
A Cold Case. Roxanne's case declared a cold case homicide investigation, leaving many questions.
Detective's Frustration. Detective Scott expresses frustration over the lack of cooperation from suspects.

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