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[Music] good night it's been 30 years since the murder of Raymond Tim Brooke and ironically
Captain here are the words from a pretty extensive article from the summer of 1992 about Rey's case and the article
starts off the longer it takes the colder the trail gets the colder the trail gets the
harder it becomes to find the killer Raymond timbrick has been dead since Friday the 13th of March 1992. someone
pumped two bullets into his head at nearly point-blank range and ended his existence on Earth's physical plane
Raymond timbrook is now a ghost a memory someone knows why Tim Brook is dead the
Killer is still at large he or she knows exactly why they killed him and how they
killed him with all the Intrigue that surrounds his death the killer even knows if Tim Brook was killed for
someone else timbrick doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would be involved in
some kind of mystery but then you never know those words were true back then in 1992
and they're still True to this day where we left off yesterday Captain we had discussed this woman who presents
herself to the family as Raymond's fiancee at his funeral we learn a little bit about that woman we learn a little
bit about Rey's work continuing on our timeline here though another very important stop along the timeline is in
May of 1992 and this is May 29 1992 when the Kirtland Hills Police Department publicly released a composite sketch of
a man seen talking to Tim Brook in The Hunting Hills subdivision the man remains unidentified but is described as
in his 40s with Sandy colored hair the shame in this case is if you want to go down some rabbit holes as far as the
internet is concerned there's not going to be many that you find the information
just doesn't exist anymore if it does exist it seems to leave out certain people's names and some information but
we do have this sketch that we'll be putting out on social media Instagram Facebook and Twitter yeah this is a case
that is difficult to do internet sleuthing on now websleuths is a very good source for the
Raymond Timber case and another great source over the years and especially recently has been
WKYC news now we have a friend over there his name is Phil Trexler our connection is he also works at
porchlight to try to help bring closure to some Ohio cold cases now Phil Trexler
is an executive producer for WKYC investigative unit and he's also spent plenty of time in print news as
well back in 1992 in fact he was working for the Lake County News Herald and he has covered Raymond's case for 30 years
now first off Phil thank you for covering Ray's case for 30 years now and thank you for talking with us and joining us
in the garage I appreciate it Nick uh glad to be on here I'm I'm glad that you're uh focusing on this this case uh
it's one that's stuck with me for about 30 years now um yes it's intriguing it's uh
heartbreaking um it's worthy of our attention so what were you up to in 1992 yeah I
was a a young reporter two or three years into the business I was a cops reporter for the uh Lake County News
Herald which was based in Northeast Ohio in the city of mentor um I just got there after a one-year
stint in Mansfield with the news journal so uh the timber cases like one of the first that landed on my lap the first
year that I was there Phil you've covered a lot of cases in your career not all of them will stick
with you what makes the Raymond Timber case stick with you well this one was unique
um the fact is that you know what we had was a prominent somewhat prominent engineer who was found dead in his car
in this undeveloped property uh development property that was being planned in little Kirtland Hills Ohio uh
his car was still running there were burn marks on his leg which indicated that the car heater had been
on for a long time initially police thought it was a a suicide it for some reason it's not clear now as to
why they thought that there was no gun that was recovered from the scene but they it was so unusual I think to have a
homicide in the city of Kirtland Hills that everyone assumed it must be a suicide because nobody gets murdered in
Kirtland health initially yeah the cops thought it was a suicide but it became clear
soon that he was I think shot twice in the head and that this in fact was a uh a homicide and the more that people
looked into it the more it seemed like it was like a you know almost a hit there were all kinds of rumors floating
around the city then just because of the fact that here we have this mild-mannered
you know engineer what you know who would want to who would want to kill him you know so all things started to come
about was it business related was it uh personal related there's a love triangle
angle so all sorts of rumors floating around um and it was just very you know it was
a new case the name that has always been tied to the ray Timber case is George Samaritan and this is the individual his
co-worker that he is said to have met with or was planning on meeting at Hunting Hills where he's later found
dead in his car the other angle to the George theory in this case is the love triangle angle and it's always been said
that Rey who was involved with Lynn eagensberger that Lynn was at one time involved with George Samaritan as well
In fairness to George he's never been charged with the crime he's let alone convicted
um he was a person of interest clearly and I think continues to be he instead of cooperating with policy
hired an attorney which is his right um and he did not cooperate with the investigation nor did the other
co-worker Lynn Egans Burger who um is an intriguing figure who we can talk about a little later about her
appearance at the funeral and how that shocked everybody um but uh yeah that was that was the
alleged love triangle George samarigan Lynn Egans burger and Ray Timber um all three you see to consultant
employees so what is your take on a CT consultants and do you believe that Rey and George were a team when it comes to
this new development perhaps maybe a team but certainly this was not like their biggest thing this is
a huge National engineering firm their their fingerprints are everywhere um and especially in Lake County they
were very uh prominent especially on some road construction projects that they engineered they're just a very
influential powerful um Corporation and what is your take on this possible murder weapon
it was one gun a large caliber they never came out with a specific uh caliber on it I believe that my
recollection is is that the projectile it was so damaged that they couldn't be positive about you know what it was it
was a 357 or nine millimeter um but yeah I mean they had very little evidence to go on inside that car you
know they had a they had a dead businessman um and very little to go on with with no
real witnesses to the shooting Phil tell us about this now Infamous incident at Ray's funeral yeah you know
I I was at the funeral actually um yeah uh and uh it was God it was a very emotional uh scene very crowded
lots of people uh I remember those uh Eric Clapton song um that he that he wrote for his son Tears
in Heaven yeah and uh gosh I'm starting to tear up myself right now uh and uh so that song was playing I remember that
at some point and uh I didn't see this take place but I've talked to uh Timber's family afterward I missed this
part that happened but a co-worker showed up at the funeral uh Lynn Egans burger and
she made a she made a grand announcement to the family and introduced herself as
as Ray's fiancee and uh that struck uh everybody that was just a shocking Revelation to the family no one knew of
her let alone the fact that they were now engaged to be married um she was acting you know uh as a
you would expect um yeah she's morning yeah she was clearly in love with Rey and she was
morning she was crying and she was very emotional um they watched as she walked over to
the uh to the casket and um you know lovingly gave her a farewell and she quietly dropped a letter into the casket
and and walked away and the family was uncomfortable with her uh appearance there uh
and everybody kind of like wanted her to go except for uh except for one one his
one guy and it was uh Tim Brook's son uh he tells an interesting story about uh how he talked to Lynn and was interested
in what she had to say and in fact invited her to the family's home for the Post uh funeral meal
um and when she arrived there Brian the son was told and no uncertain terms that uh she needs to leave she's
not welcome here she needs to go which is not actually an unfortunate event because who knows what she may
have said well now she becomes an outsider yeah absolutely absolutely and it kind of set
you know it sets the tone for the whole investigation is she's an outsider now and she's not welcome by the family so
if she ever had anything of value she just did not feel comfortable in releasing it
yeah and like George Samaritan she lawyered up and you know it's her right to do that were you ever able to speak
with Lynn uh I tried to I went to her house uh she lived on Mentor Avenue at the time and
yeah uh knocked on her door and uh you know left my card and yeah she was she was someone even our lawyer wouldn't
talk you know it was just you know it was it was shut down and shut up time and uh she has maintained that but I
mean clearly she was the target of the of the police investigation uh they were really really hooked on this love
triangle aspect and uh so much so in fact that perhaps um they didn't see the forest for the
trees and that there was you know something else there that they were missing how much was George and Lynn looked into
and I read that they may have Loosely involved the FBI in this investigation they involved the FBI you know so I
wanted to talk about some of the the techniques I think that they that they used that were pretty unusual too and
maybe you got these ideas from the FBI I don't know um but there was word that they had uh
retained the services of a female agent or or a confidential informant to endear herself to George smerrigan
um yeah it's like you know spot them at a bar and go up and talk to him kind of like uh you see in the Americans uh TV
show with spies and whatnot so they tried that um they it went so far as to put a tape
recorder inside of a fishing tackle box and place it on the gravestone of Mr timbrook with the with the hope that
Lynn would come there emotional and spill her guts and they would capture that in a recording so they were trying
I mean that goes to the extent of the unique tactics that they were trying to to
employ here to get some sort of break you know and they held grand jury hearings too you know and they brought
in Lynn and George and you know and they took the fifth and you know nothing's ever happened
Phil you referenced the 1992 and then the 1994 Grand Jury proceedings where they bring in Lynn they bring in
Georgian a bunch of other people as well trying to get them to talk and get clarification as to what happened and
what these individuals may know now in the papers after the 94 proceedings we have we have Stephen latorrett the
prosecutor who is on record stating time and time again that we are one piece of
information away from solving this case that an arrest is Within Reach we just need one more piece of the puzzle now he
says that we have followed up on leads over the course of two years and every single time that information is leading
them back to a small group of people which he says again on the record is either two or three people a small group
of people that have information in this case that they are keeping to themselves
information that could break this case wide open and when we have the process executor saying that we have two or
three people small group of people you have to wonder inside of that two or three people does that include Lynn Does
it include George it doesn't have to but if it does then who is the third person
did they look into the developers Jerry and Mike Osborne and Jim Brown who according to the prosecutor
says that CT Consultants had an engineering contract with these developers specifically with this
Hunting Hills area yeah they did look at it you know the Osborne I mean they're just as well
known as CT Consultants out there in Lake County I mean they're a large wealthy family
um you know the third person could also be like a higher up who gave the the okay for for this to happen if you
believe the theory of uh of you know political corruption that's going on um it's hard to say like is George are
George and Lynn intimately involved in the in the shooting or or do they know perhaps the real reason why this
shooting happened maybe it wasn't a love tranquil in fact maybe it was this you know the fact that George or that the
Pembroke wanted to reveal some sort of uh nefarious conduct that's taking place um
it's hard to say and it but you can't underestimate the the knowledge that George and Lynn must have
you know and and it's you know it's troubling but they are the key Witnesses um where we left off in our timeline the
police had released to the public the composite sketch of the suspect driving away from the scene or a man seen in the
area possibly even speaking with Raymond Tim Brook the burning question on everyone's mind here Phil is in your
opinion does this composite sketch look like George samarigen no no that's what struggled because George didn't really
look like the guy so that led to the Hitman Theory you know that uh well George Lord I'm there but then instead
of George being there that it hit me [Music] welcome back mini twists interns cheers
mates here I sit twisting and turning with you Captain cheers to everyone out there thank you for joining us
this week in the garage in December of 1992 the prosecutor in this case announced that there was a 25
000 reward for information in the case and the reward money was put up by Tim Brooks own family as well as the company
that he worked for CT Consultants later that same month is when we had the first
attempt by prosecutor Stephen letourt who takes this case to the grand jury you heard Phil talking about that
briefly earlier they're trying to squeeze information out of everyone involved specifically George and Lynn
unfortunately that does not lead to charging a suspect in this case then on the 28th of December 1992 timbrook's
fiancee Lynn egansperger a former co-worker at CT Consultants is called to testify before the Lake County grand
jury a little more detail into what we were just speaking to police and prosecutors refused to say what if
anything they gained from her testimony and we learn then that since then egansperger has left the company CT
Consultants that brings us now Captain to March 14 1993 in our timeline this is a year
after the killing police maintain that they are only a few crucial pieces of evidence away from solving the slang
they set up an office inside of CT Consultants several months ago to try to glean information about Tim Brooks
business life here is where we start to see in my opinion Captain the first portion
of the shift from possibly the love triangle angle in this case to possibly his murder is more business related and
that's where the lines get very skewed very quickly and there's a whole lot of gray area out there right because it
seems like Kirtland Hills PD thought that this might be easily solved in the early
get-go that there's a love triangle situation here and we have a jealous former lover or a current lover that
attacks and kills the other man in the picture the problem here though is it's also incredibly very likely that while
it's generally considered to be somewhat public knowledge or at least knowledge around the office that George and Lynn
did in fact have some type of relationship it's also entirely possible that that
relationship was over with over said and done and there was no ill will no jealousy involved once that
relationship was over right and once we have Rey who is now removed from his marriage he is pursuing his relationship
with Lynn taking it to the next level maybe George didn't care about that maybe this love triangle thing seems a
little too obvious and the reason why that it gets all mixed up and mashed together with everything else he's
co-workers with both of these individuals so his murder could just as much be about business as it is his personal
life and and given what I've seen about this guy I actually lean to toward the idea that this is much more business
related much more CT Consultants related than it is with his relationship with Lynn and his co-worker George we know
that Raymond was so supposed to meet George we're assuming at some point George met
Raymond out there but we have this eyewitness that is basically identifying another individual and that's where I
think it gets pretty cloudy well and and to take that a little bit further and make it even more cloudy here captain
we should not assume that George met with Raymond out there that day right and the the reason being is that we have
heard a couple of different versions of that story one being that that George says yes I was supposed to meet him but
never went and that he had an alibi or others saying that he never went to that location on that day right there are
others that are saying that but it's also totally possible that people got mixed up on who he was supposed to meet
out there or did Raymond did Raymond just happen to use George's name because he didn't want to tell
other people who he's meeting out there that brings up yes a whole other long list of questions the thing too that we
want to keep in mind as well is that as much as it may appear that George may have asked him had in fact asked him to
meet him out there that day there's also the chance that someone else said hey you should go or you need to go meet
George at this location at this time what we don't have the information that we don't have is who told him to meet
George there that day was it George or was it someone else right because the information we do have is the secretary
saying Raymond timbrook told me he was meeting George at that location that afternoon yeah very fascinating and then
as we said earlier Captain this thing went before the grand jury twice and unfortunately again in 1994 when
they brought it again for the second time to the grand jury same situation we don't have any information that comes
out of that we don't have the prosecutor that tells us anything what did they learn during the second proceedings and
was it any different than the first we're not told we're not privy to that information what
we do know that happens is there are still no charges brought against anyone after the 94 Grand Jury
proceedings Juan what's scary about this case and you know reviewing it compared
to other cases law enforcement is telling the public hey we're one piece away and we've been hearing that for the
last five years in the Delphi case and obviously this Raymond Timber case is 30 years cold
Brian timbrook was Raymond timbrook's oldest son and he was set to graduate the year that his father was killed
Brian for you all these years later what does this case mean to you and the state
of the case mean to you I watched all these Dateline Cold Case Files stuff like that
and to have cases you know solved after 5 10 15 20. a matter of fact I just saw one that was solved after 35 years
um but to to have I guess you could say to have two people that were co-workers of my father
Lynn Egans burger and George smerrigan to lawyer up right off the rip we're the only two
and still to this day have not been held accountable um or been truthful because Lynn was subpoenaed by the grand
jury twice and was uh LED was untruthful but there wasn't enough evidence to to go proceed any farther
what is uh your recollection of the crime scene or the condition that your your father's car was in at the time was
it it was an impress teen condition or was uh their broken glass there was no broken glass no windows down car was
running um obviously the way all the windows had to be in there if he got burns on his
legs because um they couldn't do any fingerprinting on the hood because obviously they were in the hood or not
the hood the trunk they couldn't do it they had smeared Prints but because of the salt and the
the it was March 13th you know how it was snowing so you got the salt dust and all that stuff on there so they could
not get and I don't think DNA was that big of a a thing I don't think Chief Smith
was that good of a a police chief to to handle this because you watch some of these
files I mean they go to they go like a needle in a haystack I mean they'll get down on hands and knees and microscopes
and and magnifying glasses and pull hairs and and you know so it's it's just bad
it just really baffling it's because you know they had they had the vehicle there
um and with the weather being the way it is I'm sure that that guy was outside his door my dad was talking they were
talking outside behind did with something in the trunk maybe Prince or something like that
and then he went to go into his the car the guy followed him behind and that's where
where it happened and then for no gun to be found um no shell casing the answers
that you're seeking about your father's murder do they lie with one person or as
the prosecutor was saying back in the early 90s that we believe we have a small group of people
um I I think more there's more than one more than one more than two I think there's many people that know
what truly happened um you know like I said George smerrigan was the the co-worker that he was
supposedly going to meet at The Hunting Hills subdivision and he was the one of them that lawyered up
and then an odd coincidence Lynn Egans Burger who announced herself as my dad's fiancee to
the family well basically to the world at the funeral for my father her and George had a relationship prior
and she lawyered up right off the rip and was found untruthful twice by the grand jury but with the double
jeopardy you can if you don't have enough evidence you're not going to waste your time on it and
You Know Chief Smith my my uncle hired private investigators and ex-fbis and chief Smith wouldn't have anything to do
with that because he wanted to solve the case himself shortly after my dad's murder
Kirtland Hills gets an upgrade and an addition on their police department but Brian who are people to you that are of
interest to you and direct regard to your father's case maybe people that haven't been named
so much in the papers there's so many people that could be involved I mean my dad was working on
Lost Nation Road uh widening project you got Osborne you got CT you know I think
Osborne got in trouble because they were burying the old lines and sewer systems when
they needed to come all the way out there was a uh the chaplain uh Troy Elam I would do my dad's benefit dinners he
would do the invocation um before we would eat and he was a Lake County Sheriff um
he we had we were members up at the Elks and he came back here after some cocktails and we were sitting here
talking about my dad's case and um you know he had said that I'm not gonna let I'm not gonna give my side what I know
unless I'm subpoenaed but I will tell you this that Chief Smith La Tourette and Dan Dunlap will
run between the two with their tails between their legs well lot threat's no longer with us
we got Charles Coulson now and I have never once from day one have never got a call
from them never got a call from any of my dad's co-workers that I knew ever to this day
I've reached out because it's a couple people said that and this uh Steve Hayes brought up this and said
Osborne's right hand man knows who did it so I reached out to the FBI left a message never got a response from them
another friend said that supposedly I heard that they found the gun in Youngstown that killed your father
I called the ifbi nobody called me back I mean it's just like hey we don't want to we don't want to do
anything about this we just there's no point and it's it's not right it's it's not right
how often do you look at the suspect composite sketch every year every year around this time
does it look like anybody you know I I've always said and the other people have said that it kind of vaguely
resembled George but you know how you know back then it's nothing like it is now with the with you
know how our forensics are the science is so many people knew my dad and if if that face or
you're driving to drove down Mentor Avenue and saw the billboard that said Justice for Raymond confessed repent or
just go to hell it's it's sad because there's so many people out there that that could have just a
snid bit of something that could become something and help something help us that's all that are Mighty the rest of
what love is left of my family's asking for sometime after Ray timbrook's murder his
family created the Rays of Hope Foundation and Raymond timbrook's memory the foundation has been spearheaded by
Tim Brooks sister Susan timbrick freeze it assists the families of violence victims and has helped pay for funeral
costs and even bought a canine Officer for the Lake County Sheriff's Office later there was a billboard that was put
up to remind the community about the murder and remind the murder about the murder as well seeking information in
the case and the billboard read Justice for Raymond murdered 3 13 92. Raymond timbrook son brother father friend to
the murderer scripture gives you definite Direction and few options confess and repent or just go to hell
and while the foundation Rays of Hope offered hope to the victims of other violent crimes the billboard was unable
to lead to the arrest of a suspect in Raymond's case sadly Raymond and Scott's mother Doreen
passed away before both of them would turn 30 years old and Raymond timbrook's Father Robert who served this great
country in World War II sadly passed away the age of 84 in 2001 and never got to see his son's murder case solved Phil
after covering this case for over three decades and with the anniversary coming up and and
you looking back over that work um what what conclusion have you come to I honestly I've come around
um to the fact that I don't believe that it has anything to do with Lynn or George and the love the alleged love
triangle I I think that was a diversion um that cost law enforcement valuable time uh I am of the belief and so are
several people very intimate with the case uh I am of the belief that this was business related that
Ray had come across some information um about some corruption involving his company and local government uh like
bribes and work projects that uh you know had to be redone and I'm talking about the Lost Nation Road Project there
and uh in Willoughby a massive multi-million dollar uh reconstruction project by the airport
there that was done and then redone and uh there is that's the one angle and talking to my law enforcement sources
who have talked to people uh in power they don't believe that they want this case solved they don't want to
open um that box and because it will hurt a lot of people if the truth was ever told
um and these are you know these are not conspiracy type cops these are seasoned detectives who work the case in later
years and came away with that conclusion and um higher ups just don't want to go down
that road um it sounds you know uh like a conspiracy theory but you know I it just it does make more sense I
think than than some you know love triangle among three co-workers who are all single and you know I I don't see a
motive there like where someone's gonna kill somebody over you know a woman in that kind of fashion
you know that's more of a calculated type hit you know whereas love usually involves
like crimes of passion and sudden rages um this was clearly a orchestrated planned hit
and you have to ask yourself why and is he getting murdered over Lynn or is he getting murdered over something that he
had promised to go to police about and some corruption that could uh put Rich wealthy people or politicians in
prison that to me makes more sense but therein lies the trouble and the problem with this case it's not so cut
and dried now is it Phil it's not a situation where you can just fall on one side of the fence or the other that it's
either directly related to George and Lynn or it's directly related to business because George and Lynn are all
wrapped up in CT consultants and all wrapped up in Raymond Tim Brooks business and therefore that makes it
quite confusing because it could be one or the other or it could be both now I agree with you Phil and the way that
you've kind of molded and adapted your thoughts and theories on the case over the years and
I certainly think that this is much more business related and that it was a hit and it had to do with shutting him up he
had information he was the man that Knew Too Much and that scared some people and
probably could have cost people lots and lots of money or their jobs and somebody wanted to shut Raymond
timbrook up and they did and unfortunately we sit here 30 years later still wondering who was the trigger man
and who is responsible if in fact somebody was hired to kill him now my other problems that I have with
this case my other big problem I have with this case lies with CT consultants and Raymond Tim Brooks co-workers people
that chose to be quiet people that probably had information people that could in some way help the investigation
but chose not to and this includes Frank Federico and his posturing during the course of
the early stages of this investigation I've reached out to Frank he doesn't want to reply he doesn't want to make a
statement on this case the other big problem I have is with Lynn egansperger this is a man that was murdered a man
that you claim to have loved loved enough that you were engaged to be married to him
and when the worst happened to him and his family his children you don't step up with answers you don't as you don't
cooperate in the investigation it's not too late it's never too late to come forward with information
and the family is the one that's hurting the most you don't have to talk to law enforcement you can speak
with Raymond's family and offer them answers Brian after 30 years of your father's case being unsolved do you have
any hope for this case I will always have hope because if it ain't found if the person ain't found guilty in the
court of law God's going to have his way and I slowly every day blue is a little bit of Hope but I'll
never completely lose it ever tomorrow being the anniversary is just gonna be a a real tough day Brian
what keeps you going I want answers my wife my family my friends my work I've I paid the price
in a lot of bad ways for this but I can't use it as an excuse it's time for me to be able to put this
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Raymond Timbrook /// Part 2 /// 565

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This week in the Garage we take a deep dive into one of Northeast Ohio’s most frustrating and coldest cases. Successful business man Raymond Timbrook was shot and killed in his car following a scheduled meeting at an isolated location that his company CT Consults was in contract to develop. Many have been linked to this case public or otherwise. This week unfortunately was the 30 year anniversary of this still unsolved case. We are hoping to bring renewed public awareness and interest for Ray’s cold case homicide.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the unsolved murder of Raymond Tim Brook and the complexities surrounding key suspects and motives.

Key points

The Murder of Raymond Tim Brook. It's been 30 years since the murder of Raymond Tim Brook, whose case remains unsolved.
The Composite Sketch Release. In May 1992, police released a composite sketch of a man seen with Tim Brook.
The Shocking Funeral Revelation. At Tim Brook's funeral, a woman claimed to be his fiancée, shocking the family.
The 25,000 Reward Announcement. In December 1992, a reward was announced for information leading to an arrest.
The Grand Jury Proceedings. Lynn Egansperger testified before the grand jury in December 1992, but details remain unclear.
Rays of Hope Foundation. Created in memory of Raymond Timbrook, it assists families of violence victims.

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