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[Music] birth control op n [Music] [Music] [Music] we are using all available resources to
bring Justice of the victims of this tragedy we continue to use all available resources in this invest investigation
with the support from the Cleveland division of the FBI and the kayaga County Medical Examiner office I'd now
like to introduce special agent in charge of the Cleveland division of the FBI Eric
Smith afternoon ladies and gentlemen um my name is Eric Smith I am the special agent in charge of the Cleveland
division of the FBI I want to start by thanking the Cleveland Metro Parks and the Cleveland Metro Parks Police
Department for their partnership and their professionalism in our Collective pursuit of justice for Kate Brown and
Carnell Sledge as Chief Dolan has already laid out some of the publicly releasable
facts in this unsolved case I would like to ask the public for assistance the area known as the
pull-off lot north of the Lorraine Road Bridge in the Cleveland Metro Park Rocky
River Fairview Park reservation is in a highly trafficked area especially in the
late afternoon and early evening weekday hours there are numerous joggers Walkers
bicyclists kayakers and even Vehicles cutting through the area to avoid Interstate backups and this is true for
this area on any given day Tuesday June 4th was a nice warm early evening temperatures in the mid-70s and
accordingly there were plenty of people and plenty of activity in the park we're asking the public to take a look
at the maps displayed here if you were in the area on the evening of Tuesday June 4th between 4:30 and 5:30 p.m.
please contact law enforcement immediately you may have seen something that will give us the key to solve this
investigation a critical piece of information that will lead us to who is responsible for this horrific double
homicide you may think that what you saw was nothing or was unrelated we are asking you not to dismiss anything let
law enforcement make that decision and we need your assistance reward money has been offered by the FBI up to
$2,000 and by Crim Stoppers up to $2,500 for tips that lead us to the identification and prosecution of the
person or persons responsible tips can remain anonymous and can be provided to Cleveland metrop
Parks the Cleveland FBI or Crim Stoppers we want to hold the individuals accountable that have committed this
horrific act and we also want to provide answers to Kate and Carnell's family and
[Music] friends I want to get into parts of this article because it goes a little more
into detail about some questions that I have about the case and questions I believe that you share about this case
as well this is from the Cleveland Scene which is a fantastic alternative weekly
newspaper based out of Cleveland Ohio this article's headline is four years later officials report no progress
in metrop Park's double homicide case but fresh hope comes with national coverage so this came out this article
came out two days after the the Unsolved Mysteries episode they're hoping that that would
rejuvenate the investigation so I'm only going to read parts of this here some of the parts
here say this investigators have gotten many scores of tips and conducted some 270 interviews but who killed Carnell
Sledge age 40 and Katherine Kate Brown age 33 of Fairview Park in the Rocky River Reservation on June 4th 2019
remains a mystery they've received 165 tips during the course of this investigation the Metro Park police say
that they are in regular Communications with the families and that their priority remains bringing Justice to the
victims and their families but Tom Brown Kate Brown's father disagrees with this
statement he finds it inconceivable that the metrop parks police haven't made any
progress in solving the killings or that they claimed to have routine contact with the families so both families
Nell's family and Kate's family has expressed openly multiple times their concern about the lack of communication
from the metr Park police there is some confusion from the families because it seems like Carnell's family is like well
we we don't have any reason to believe that somebody hated Carell and wanted him dead so we think there's somebody in
Kate's life that possibly wanted her dead and then Kate's family is like well there's nobody in Kate's life that we
think wanted her dead so we think Carnell was the target yeah and when you see and read interviews with the family
members they are at a loss they really are the longer that this investigation drags
on the more questions they seem to have now an A group that probably could have provided some assistance or some answers
to a lot of those questions is the vok society so this angers me to to a whole another
level here Captain want to get pissed let's get pissed okay so A A Man Named Kelly
Tillman became the interim Ranger Chief so for my understanding that's the highest ranking Metro Parks officer
basically the chief of police he was an keep in mind it's inm position so I don't believe he was there too very long
but he took the position in November of 2021 so he he's already behind the eightball because this was not his case
as a chief it happened in 2019 he takes over in November of 2021 but the problem with him taking over in
my opinion is that there was already something in the works so at the time lead investigator was Nick Valente he
had a proposal to the metr parks Police Department to bring in the vok society which is a nonprofit 82 member group of
retired profess criminal investigators who are willing to assist in cases we've talked about them before they've done
some brilliant work and look they they don't just step in and review a case and solve 100% of them that that's not how
these things work but they can offer their longtime expertise in offering different types of expertise in
information and angles for the investigation and telling you hey maybe you should take your investigation here
or maybe you miss this here's these couple of items that you should go back and review the lead investigator Nick
Valente says that the vok society was willing to assist in the Kate Brown and N Sledge murder case the vok society
accepts both cold cases and ongoing investigations that are at least two years or older but only if invited in by
the jurisdictional law enforcement agency which of course in this case would be the metr parks they only accept
a few cases each year and with them saying that yeah we're willing to take this one on that
is good news because a lot of cases they don't take on most they don't this was good news this guy steps in as the chief
and says nope we're going to ni that we don't need to bring in any other foreign
agency we don't need the vok society helping in this case so the Cleveland Scene doing their
due deal they went and wanted answers and said that they came away saying that the
Metro Park Police Department declined to comment on why they won't allow other agencies to assist in the investigation
and we already talked about the metr parks removing the signs but the Browns Point out like why would you do that
they were this was bringing in tips and you are actively and the FBI put up $20,000 asking the public for assistance
you were actively asking the public for help for information and you keep saying
over and over again that somebody must have seen something or heard something somebody knows something we need this
person to come forward yet you're forcing this family to take down these signs which the Brown family says were
providing tips to law enforcement those signs were actively collecting tips for law enforcement I don't understand
actions by anybody in a case that when you hear about the actions it's counterintuitive on solving a a murder
case right mhm when we have these posters up we're going to take those posters down well isn't that
counterintuitive to solving the crime yeah why are you doing that and then also like we we reach out for
help we get accepted but then we don't accept the help that's also counterintuitive to solving the crime
from an elite group in it possible that there's somebody that maybe uh the Metro
Park pH as involved in this crime and that it's an internal matter I don't suspect
that I think that when I continue on with this article you'll I think you might have end up
sharing the same suspicions that I have as far as the metrop Park's police concern so let's talk about some of this
other stuff that's in the article Alex Zubin this is Kate's younger sister says that she knew intimate details of Kate's
life but when she made suggestions to investigators they ignored or postponed her she's saying when we
suggested other ways to get information from Kate's phone for evidence they refused our ideas and she goes on to say
that when I suggested that they look into certain contacts of Kate they never did any followup on those contacts that
she provided to them of course the sledges are the Sledge family are equally as disappointed as the Browns
that the metrop parks refusal to allow the vok society to help with the investigation now the kayakers SL
Witnesses they didn't hear anything see anything other than unfortunately finding the bodies and calling
911 they are Tony and Caitlyn vodka and that's vac so I apologize if I if if I'm
getting their names incorrect but Caitlyn one of the kayakers shares that she and her husband Tony were trying to
find a spot to launch and that's when they found the bodies she says the experience haunts her still to this day
and she even broke down during the course of talking to the reporter here for this article and Caitlyn feels
strongly that investigators handled the crime scene poorly quote I kept thinking
about the First Responders she says how they should have closed the road and not
touch the bodies we thought it was odd that they let people on the scene go so soon I thought they were very casual
they allowed a guy who pulled up just before the police arrived to walk his dog through the area and then they told
us we could leave according to public reports including police audio recordings from the crime scene and
accounts from the witnesses who discovered the bodies metr Parks police failed to shut down the Valley Parkway
for close to 45 minutes and then let's Circle back to something here because it's right here in the article public
records also show that the witness sitting in his pickup truck parked in the close by lot during the killings
says he didn't see or hear anything because he was immersed in work on his laptop Caitlyn one of the kayakers says
she observed him sitting in his pickup truck and that he didn't get out until after police arrived she also said
investigators didn't do thorough questioning of witnesses at the crime scene saying quote I've always wondered
about the guy sitting in the truck I mean I was right there crying clearly things were happening but he stayed in
his truck end quote Tony Caitlyn's husband is the other witness who found the bodies he says he was surprised by
the lack of crime scene protocol quote there was no police tape No Boundaries to protect the evidence worse they
didn't question Witnesses they the way they should have they treated it like a stolen package off of someone's
porch Kate's sister Lauren Echoes the kayak comments saying the witness who was sitting in his pickup truck nearby
at the time of the killings was let go then called back later he was not tested at the crime scene for gunpowder and
then we have Carnell's friend this is Jeff Schwarz who says he feels the metrop park bungled the investigation
since the get-go quote everything that could go wrong from the beginning has he says I would rather have a detective
from Law and Order trying to solve this now in episode 660 I pointed out the an experience that the metrop parks has has
with homicides even better reason to bring in somebody like the vok society we do know in their defense they did
bring in the FBI right so the FBI has been some part of this the MF FBI but it's not it's also not just a homicide
it's a double homicide yeah and according to Unsolved Mysteries both families have a lot of
questions about the man in the truck the man sitting in his truck the the witnesses saw nothing heard nothing and
as referred to only as the roofer on Unsolved Mysteries both families have said we want to know more about this
witness right absolutely you'd want to know more about him you'd want to know more about the kayakers too so we here
at True Crime garage said the same thing we want to know more about this roofer the guy in the truck because per
police we only have three known potential Witnesses the kaying couple and the roofer the man in the truck but
the kayakers are named on Unsolved Mysteries and they're named again in multiple articles including the
Cleveland Scene article that I just reviewed with all of you why isn't the roofer named on Unsolved Mysteries or in
any article because it's fishy so here here's the problem there's a lot of problems okay so they did talk to
this roofer guy right they are claiming they being metrop Park detectives are claiming that he couldn't have done it
because he was we we checked his electronics and he was doing what he said he was doing at the time he was
working the reports I have is that that park bench again this is the statement from law enforcement is the park bench
where they were killed is visible from this parking lot invisible from the road that runs to that parking lot that
gravel lot we know based off of the dash cam footage from the detective that there were only five cars in that lot
when they arrived red on the scene and this again it's 11-minute window when they were killed because we can based
off of witness statements we can surmise that they were killed before the kayakers
arrived why because we know from police statements that the roofer was there before during and after the murders
according to the kayakers he never gets it they arrive they then find the bodies
they call 911 and they wait for police police arrive the roofer never gets out of the pickup truck until after police
are on the scene well so am I nuts to think that law enforcement has some eyewitness that can put his truck the
roofer's truck in that lot before there's any other vehicles they don't have to he puts himself there right okay
so then on top of that now so he's telling law enforcement I was there I was doing this work two other people
pulled in yeah cuz they're going to say what time did you arrive and oh you're still here while while we're on the
scene so they know that he's there prior to they they out they being law enforcement have said he was there
before cardinell and Kate arrived he was there before the kayakers arrived kayakers arrived and find the
two dead now when police arrive on the scene we have five vehicles this is literally minutes after the two were
killed there's a 11-minute window when they were killed police were on the scene probably 6 minutes to 8 minutes
after that 11-minute window and when they pull up we can see from their dashboard camera footage that there are
five vehicles in that lot two belong to the victims one belong to the pickup truck roofer guy one belongs to the
kayakers the fifth vehicle belongs to the guy that the kayakers reference saying that they question the crime
scene because they let a guy that showed up to walk his dog walk his dog through
the area so that guy shows up after the kayakers but before the police so he didn't kill him unless he for some weird
reason came back to the scene and wanted to be there when police were arriving let's go back to what we had said
earlier this is the the area is known as a pull-off lot it's highly traffic numerous joggers Walkers kayakers
Vehicles cut through the area so forth and so on why isn't this roofer named the kayakers are named we did some
digging the roofer is Charles Adams that's his name he's referred to as the roofer and Unsolved Mysteries Unsolved
Mysteries in these articles apparently there's things that were either not known what what I believe to be not
known I don't think that these things were purposely left out but his statements to police is this
he did not hear any gunshots but what he tells police is I didn't hear anything so it must have been a low
caliber weapon possibly a 22 well it was a 22 that killed the victims so I guess
good guess there Chuck when asked if he see the victims so he says yeah I saw these people arrive I didn't see anybody
else arrive right I see the victims arrive then I saw the kayakers arrive did you see them shot no I saw them I
thought they were sleeping and I I want to I want to be clear here I don't know if his statement was I saw them or I saw
Carnell and I thought he was sleeping because from this vantage point from this guy's pickup truck he would have
been able to see the park bench and therefore we can take that a little bit further and make the assumption that if
he could see the park bench he could see Cardell lying next to it after having been shot the family wants to know more
about the families want to know more about this guy and I agree with that I think their intuition is spot on here
the information we've uncovered is that he is is a a gun nut referred to as a gun nut who not only owned Firearms but
is believed to have carried them at most times there are people out there very close to this investigation that that
have a firm belief that had they searched his truck or him at the scene that they likely would have found at
least one firearm on his person now we know based off of the statements from the Brown family and and the kayakers
that the police talked to him briefly and then let him go and then decided to call him back to the scene yeah not a
good move wouldn't wouldn't you at the very least like say all right we need kayakers roofer we need you guys to stay
at the scene and oh by the way would you mind if we could search your vehicles because how you you find a firearm in in
somebody's vehicle at the scene you probably get you probably got the murderer later
we find out that this individual the roofer has failed at least one polygraph test I believe that that it was
conducted by the FBI and we do know that he has a history of violence and has since left the state of Ohio he no
longer resides here in the state of Ohio do we know how long after the murders it
was that he moved away I couldn't find confirmation of that other than it was several months so so it wasn't like he
up and skipped town immediately or the week after and do we know what the violent charges were um at least one
domestic case so Poss just hates women that he was convicted of this isn't suspicion this isn't accusations this is
he was convicted of it so A History A known History of Violence all right let's take this a step further
here because there's actually a potential connection between Charles the roofer and and one of the victims really
oh really so remember we had said you had said that Kate and rightfully so she lived in an apartment complex a very
large apartment complex very near the crime scene and that is in large part why she would frequent that portion of
the park she would often exercise there go there for walks take in the the natural beauty of the scenery and also
meet people there regularly friends acquaintances you know rather than dropping by my
apartment hey it's beautiful out there's this beautiful park that's so very close
to my home my apartment let's meet there this man lived in the lived not far from
the park as well so he lives almost directly across from Kate's apartment building at the time of the murders now
the other part too is it was discovered that around the time of the murders Charles the roofer was having multiple
affairs utiliz Iz in Tinder to set up dates and set up these encounters with women it's
conceivable that if Kate was actively using Tinder that there's a chance that they could have matched just from
proximity and age they were both about the same age and they both lived in the same area and now compound that
information with what Brown's family Kate Brown's family is saying on Unsolved Mysteries that she was actively
using Tinder at the time of her murder yeah she went on a date using Tinder I think like a couple days before the
murders and so then we we got a question well why is Carnell there is it possible
that she's like hey Carell I've been I've been match with this guy on Tinder I'm going to meet him at the park
do you mind coming with me I got to break it off yeah break it off or maybe it's uh you're meeting them for the
first time and so you have a friend there you meet and and the the thought is if it if it's
going well then we'll continue on our date and and you go uh about your business you know Carnell goes about his
business and goes back to his family's house I the Tinder connection is very strange they would have had to like you
said because of the age range and because of proximity I believe Tinder is all about
how there's like parameters that you put in when you're looking for individuals so they're going to show you people that
are in your close area yeah the the Colonel's not looking for 80-year-old women who live in India right you're you
would be looking for it's conceivable that you're probably looking for somebody about your same age range and
it would make sense that they they live or or work or frequent similar areas close
proximity the captain's going to start a dating app called close areas here's the
thing and it makes you wonder did the interim Chief not want the assistance of the vok society because they're going to
review this and go what the hell guys this guy in the pickup truck you let him go from the scene with a with a very
general statement that doesn't make any sense we know he was there before during
and after the murders he didn't hear anything he didn't see anything he tells you that oh I didn't hear anything it
must have been a small caliber weapon like a 22 the 20 a 22 caliber weapon it turns out to be the murder weapon and oh
I saw one of the victims and I thought he was sleeping who sleeps look maybe I you know I've seen
homeless people you know I like to call them houseless people sleeping in the park during the daytime not a lot it's
very rare but I have witnessed this so maybe that was his statement to police but but then the other there's a lot of
problems I have here too so the FBI comes in and the FBI says look we've done everything we can we we sent this
to our Behavioral Science unit for a profile well if you guys really want help of from the public where's the
profile right as vanilla as it may be release some of the profile or all of the profile to the public I I hate when
law enforcement limps in ask for help from the public yeah help me to help you help me to help
you the more the more that we know the better we can help in the situation [Music]
our family's lives were changed forever the moment we were told our beloved Kate
was brutally murdered Kate's sister Alex zuban spoke alongside her father Tom Brown today as they announced an
increase to the reward for information that helps solve this metrop park murder mystery as a family we have raised an
additional $70,000 this raises the total reward to $100,000 for information metr parks
Rangers and the FBI acknowledged they don't have much to go on but they remain Relentless promising to work the case as
if it happened yesterday La enforcement will not rest until Kate and Carnell's killer is brought to Justice meanwhile
Alex and Tom continue to praise the sister and daughter they miss so much Kate was my best friend talked every day
I still call her and leave her voicemails she was at the top of her game she was enjoying life she loved
going down to the park she would go down with her mom and play cards sit on a blanket and
I I can't believe we're standing here anyone with information should call Crim Stoppers or Metro Parks Rangers knowing
they can help a family heal while remaining [Music] Anonymous all right we are back cheers
mates cheers to the people in the front back the sides cheers to you Colonel there are so many questions in this case
we have these two individuals I guess the first question is why were they meeting at the park why was he meeting
at the time that he was supposed to be going over to his family's house what were they going to be talking about what
was talked about on the cell phone call before they met up was anybody following
them or was or was the suspect there there at the time of the murders was the suspect just passing
by why didn't this eyewitness hear anything see anything when he was there just feet away from the crime scene
doesn't make any sense let's dive more into this quote unquote eyewitness so is there anything that we can learn about
this eyewitness's history does he have any prior convictions is he is he a violent individual that's the thing I I
want to be clear here prior to the homicides I don't know if he has a history of violence right I believe that
that the what his conviction came after the murders but regardless he has a history of violence now so we know he's
capable of being a violent individual let's go back to the to the problems with the investigation okay if you say
that the person may have used a suppressor well we we know this to be fact you have to be issued a stamp by
the ATF you have to purchase the stamp it's a long drawn out process and you have to keep that it's basically a
license that you can have a silencer and at any time the ATF can knock on the Colonel's door and say all right we want
to see your your stamp that was issued for your silencer your suppressor and we want to see the suppressor that matches
that stamp the serial number so that would be something that you could check right you got three people at the scene
you could check if any of them have been issued a stamp for a suppress they it's
rare to get one it's difficult to get one most people don't have them that doesn't seem to have been done there's
no indication that they searched either vehicle there's people that close to the
investigation say that they believe that you would have found a gun on the roofer
they're not saying look the roofer is the murderer they're saying these are things that should have been
done and frankly look you said if maybe he had the radio cranked up and that would make
some sense yeah but look if he didn't and of course windows rolled up what have you it was a warm day I who knows
if his windows were rolled up or not but look it's been reported that the park bench was 75 to maybe 80 feet from the
gravel lot right 75 ft to 75 to 80 ft from the gravel lot just as an exercise for for my own Amusement I decided to to
walk in time how long it would take me to walk 75 to 80 feet so for me to walk 80 feet originally I had wrote down and
guessed it would take me 30 seconds conservatively right actually once I timed it I did it three times and I got
times of 22 seconds 23 seconds 25 seconds but were you doing the type of walk where you put your feet really
close together and you uh scrunch your butt cheeks together yes because that's how I assume the murderer approached the
victims now I I did it in a manner much like we saw in the Liz barazza Nest cam footage the perpetrator of that murder
where the where we don't know who the perpetrator was but as I said in that episode Liz barazza still unsolved
Texas the killer appears to be walking very purposefully up to the victim before shooting her
and in a weird way that case shares some similarities to the case we're discussing today yeah very much so when
I time those walks 22 seconds 23 seconds and 25 seconds okay so you mean to tell
me that you are saying on a national streaming program Unsolved Mysteries that you can confirm that he didn't kill
them because he was doing what he said he was doing which was working on a laptop that the distance travel it's
conceivable that he walked up approached them shot them and returned to his truck
in less than 2 minutes time unless you can prove that he's jiggling a mouse jiggling a mouse for every second that
he's there you can't eliminate him based off of that because there's s such little time it would have taken him to
shoot these people well also it it's possible that he gets in his truck to leave and sees these
kayakers Park and then thinks well [ __ ] I can't leave now and especially because
because his truck would have been what we would consider here at the garage to be identifiable not maybe not
that one particular but he's a roofer right so he's going to have he's going to have things related to the work on
this truck he's going to have likely ladders I don't know a roofer that doesn't carry ladders on their vehicle
there could be signage like you're saying on on this vehicle maybe he he had got back to the vehicle and realized
oh I'm kind of I'm kind of stuck here now for a second or two if if I flee maybe I look more guilty than if I just
sit here and you think the FBI would be able to look into his history or look into maybe not his history but look into
Kate's history on the the Tinder app and see if there was any connection because
then you go is that just happen stance that a guy that she made contact with happened to be at the crime scene no see
I think that's the other reason why some of the people in the public dismissed this guy
okay because when we see the Unsolved Mysteries episode there's clearly cell phone information from both victims that
that is relayed in that episode right that's where we get a lot of these timestamps from well in fact all the
timestamps from their cell phones so I think that people then make the assumption that they know everything
about Kate's cell phone and who she was talking to but go back to the article that comes
out two days after the Unsolved Mysteries episode where two days after the Unsolved Mysteries episode where we
have the Cleveland Scene article that comes out that says no there's they don't know everything about they being
law enforcement Kate's phone we can put this together based off of that article Alex Zubin Kate's younger sister says
she knew intimate details of Kate's life but when she made suggestions to investigators they were ignored or
postponed quote when we suggested other ways to get the information from Kate's phone for evidence they refused said
Zubin when we suggested other ways to get the information from Kate's phone this is telling us that at some point
law enforcement told the victim's family we are not able to access a lot of stuff
or some stuff on her phone doesn't make sense unless unless they have unless they have some reason to hold back this
information and they don't want to give it this information to the family persons close to the investigation and
at least one person in law enforcement close to the investigation has told True Crime garage that they have not been
able to successfully unlock Kate's phone so all of the information that we reviewed regarding her cell
phone is information that they could pull with a subpoena from her cell phone Pro Prov
provider what time a text was sent what was said in a text and right what time calls were made and who the calls were
made to or who calls were received from there's nothing in there saying with her Tinder information or other
apps and applications information that they could probably pull from her phone and furthermore like so okay a
couple of theories that we discussed in 660 and and that have been openly discussed in
this case regularly is were the two followed that seemed to me to be the most likely scenario when we first
covered this case be but now after watching Unsolved Mysteries we have that dash cam footage that would seem to
suggest that no they weren't followed because police would be actively hunting down those vehicles with license plates
and such and vehicle descriptions and again we go back to how few Vehicles were in the gravel lot in the very short
finite window of time that we have I was so angry that they didn't use Geo fencing because it would have been so
easy at the time if they were followed to see what cell phone pulled into the lot after one or both of the
victims walk to the general area where both victims were Kate's phone shoots them and then leaves the scene before
police arrive that that would be your suspect that's what I was shouting from the mountain tops then
but that investigative tool only works if you have somebody that is not putting themselves at the crime scene geofencing
doesn't work very well if the person that that committed this crime was there and says and is fine with police knowing
that they were there at the time of the murders but again maybe that's cuz he had to change his plan because the
kayakers showed up yeah we know one individual was there like police said this is their words not ours before
during and after the murders and then I also wonder too Captain I said at the beginning it takes a village maybe it's
going to take a village to solve this but this case needs to be solved for a million
reasons but I question if the metrop parks police and the FBI how United are they in working together sharing
information is this a battle to see who can solve this case because you ain't going to it by yourselves I have very
little confidence in the metr Parks Police Department solving this case and metr Parks police you have more a more
vested in interest in this case being solved than the FBI frankly just because it's your
jurisdiction and here's the deal this individual that you don't know everything about and that you let leave
your crime scene and you didn't properly vet he relocated to St Louis the FB FBI
has an office in Cleveland the FBI their jurisdiction is on the federal level not
the Cleveland Metro Parks level right of course they have a field office they have an FBI
office in St Louis you guys got to work together and vet this guy investigate this guy
properly and the investiga and so many other aspects of this investigation because I think it's
been it appears from our angle where we sit that this has been somewhat poorly handled and that there were things that
were that could have been done that were not done and we've I go to this a lot because it's so true it's something that
the great late great JFK said that is so true an error only becomes a mistake once you refuse to correct it there's
still plenty of time to get Justice for these two lovely people that were killed on a
park bench on a Tuesday there's still time to get Justice for their families anyone with information or tips
about the unsolved double homicide should call the FBI Cleveland field office at 216 622
6842 or call Crim Stoppers of Kai hoga County at 216252701 100,000 reward for information that
leads to an arrest and conviction [Music] all right want to thank you so much for
joining us here in the garage each and every week thanks for telling your friends thanks for sharing these cases
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protect and solve these crimes Colonel do we have any recommended reading for the beautiful listeners thank you
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On June 4th, 2019 shortly after 5pm, longtime friends Carnell (Nell) Sledge and Katherine (Kate) Brown arrived at the Rocky River Reservation in Fairview Park, Ohio. The two met at the pull-off lot north of the Lorain Road bridge. They both were shot and killed while sitting at a park bench next to the river. Anyone with information regarding these murders is asked to call the FBI’s Cleveland Field Office at 216-622-6842. Tips can also be submitted at tips.fbi.gov (http://tips.fbi.gov/)

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the unsolved double homicide of Kate Brown and Carnell Sledge, highlighting investigation issues and family frustrations.

Key points

FBI Seeks Public Help. The FBI is asking for assistance in solving a double homicide case with a reward of up to $4,500 for tips.
Families Demand Answers. Both families express frustration over the lack of communication and progress in the investigation.
Investigation Criticized. Witnesses and family members criticize the handling of the crime scene and investigation.
Reward Increased for Information. Kate's family announces a $100,000 reward for information leading to an arrest.
Investigation Critique. Concerns raised about the handling of the investigation and the need for collaboration.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

We need your assistance, reward money has been offered.

FBI asking for public help in investigation

3:35WatchFeb 12, 2025

Tension

65/ 100Some tension

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