Off The Record /// Episode #79 | Forensic Files

[Applause] break out the candy corn you like candy corn now I hate it's awful it's you know
it there's two kinds though there's one kind that I like and I don't know that I
could tell you I don't know that I could point at one and tell you which one it is that I like I would have excelled by
looking yeah you have to taste because I haven't had candy corn in years but I remember as a child I hated it I'm like
a [ __ ] or candy corn when they give you the candy corn you go thank you very much and then at some point my parents
had a like a bowl of it and I because there was nothing else to eat so just for survival I was gonna eat the candy
corn and I was like I remember I remember like it was yesterday I was sitting in my family room I had a
carpeted floor I was sitting are you starving right starving to death my stomach lining
eating itself consuming itself and I used to sit on the floor and watch TV sometimes after school and I remember I
think I was watching like growing pains well that was a show right growing pains
yeah yeah I love her I can't remember the name of it but I loved that show I thought it was a great show I remember
it like it was yesterday I was sitting there alyx starving to death Alan Thicke right yeah and I you know
that he wrote the theme yes I did his wife was a famous singer and and because of they did two of them sing the theme
song together they might of and and then they birth the artist says that we know
as Robin Thicke so I I knew that when I was a kid when I watched growing pains I
knew that Alan Thicke the father who played the father long as we got to each other so it was Mike Seaver what was
what was his father's name mr. Seaver mr. Seaver remember boner Dickies to bone do that
the best because boner is such a funny word wouldn't hurt kid I and the fact that they they got away with my family
friendly show it was on network TV in the early 80s and they somehow I don't know if Mike Seaver gave Dickey stabbed
own the nickname boner but everybody called him boner the but in it yeah yeah I ate the whole bowl that day just for
survival and what else was oh that makes me think of the a cell Seaver dr. Jason
Seaver yeah and but the nickname boner now makes me think of uh of boners oh it it it makes me think of remember uh The
Cosby Show the the Buddy Theo had a buddy with a funny nickname he was cockroach yeah and at some point they
just called him roach I think or called him Cochran I think cockroach is funnier
than just roach yeah cockroach isn't definitely funnier yeah yeah so uh Halloween time
trick-or-treat time favorite do you have a favorite candy um like that you remember remember as a kid like you'd
get and you go oh yes I got Twix or whatever it was well I I will say this like my entire
life Snickers has probably been my favorite candy like that's my go-to I do there's
a lot of other candy bars that I do enjoy but Snickers is my number one go-to and always has been ever since I
can remember now when I was a kid when I would go out trick-or-treating beggar's
night always like oh I was like when people call it beggar's night because they didn't really call it that around
here I was always trick-or-treat it should be it should be called stash as much candy because you might have to
live off of it what yeah I always liked getting a nice assortment of candy bars like you don't want too many of the same
I was never much of a Milky Way guy because I like like the I like a little crunch in my candy way
but I like caramel so yeah so for me Milky Way was always just missing the peanuts or missing the crunch so milk
Milky Way a lot of people loved him we used to trade candy at the end of the night so you would trade the away the
stuff you didn't like as much to get things that you did like a Milky Way was like super trade bait for me because a
lot of people wanted the Milky Way's I could part about every musketeer because it seemed it three musketeer was was
big-time trade bait for me as well like I I'm searching for the Snickers Baby Ruth is a very underrated candy bar I
love a Baby Ruth I agree and I would also go for the Nestle Crunch Bars that I was the thing
lit many paydays we're good oh those are very good now the almond joys and I'm not a coconut guy so there are some
people that like those and I could trade those away but I back then I don't know
about nowadays but back then if you bought the almond joy bag to pass out as your candy to pass out to the
trick-or-treaters you got mounds as well yeah but they were the bag itself was cheaper than the
other candy bars and I think it was because it was a less desirable candy bar so more people pass them I did not
like the almond joys or the mounds couldn't stand those now one one candy that I don't that I thought was awesome
anytime I got it because I I don't remember like being able to purchase this candy anywhere but on
trick-or-treat I would get some was the bottle caps do you remember bottle caps yeah yeah
they were like some of them were like fruit flavors they were they're kind of like a sweetheart right like a but they
would have root beer-flavored and they had a Cola flavored and great yeah that I loved get in the bottle caps because I
for whatever reason couldn't figure out how to acquire them outside of Halloween
yeah that's a that's interesting that you say that because there are probably some candies that are you know I more
known for trick-or-treating like bottle caps right then then they are just like regular
yeah every now and then you get like some weird ones like pop rocks I always liked those do you have like is there a
candy that you associate with Halloween like candy corn well yeah but that's cuz
it's terrible but or those pumpkins it's candy corn but the pumpkins I associate candy corn with survival
with with surviving another day when I see knives and like cantinas and stuff like that I think of candy corn yeah
dude no but I mean like for me bottle caps when I think of bottle caps I think of Halloween when I think of Halloween I
think of the bottle cap candy yeah I think about knickers I don't associate it with with Halloween well I think it's
the bite size yeah the bites are any like why is that fun sighs nobody likes it fun is a bigger candy bar yes the fun
size like no no the fun size is the size of it's as big as your head you know what's not fun is I get the fun size and
I eat five of them because they're so small and then I feel guilty for the rest of the night yeah but they're way
she call it guilty size it's way better than the bite size though well but yeah eyes are like why it's so much work to
get them out of there it's no it's no fun I think I remember because just not getting a lot of candy as a child right
you know it just wasn't a thing but peanut butter cups just oh yeah I think because they you know Reese's Cups
yeah the packaging was orange yeah you know they kind of have I don't know it's always you get like the well they do the
pumpkin shaped ones sometimes yeah now they do yeah which which I feel like the chocolate
tastes a little different to me only shaped them like something else yeah they do all this weird stuff where
they'll go okay we got pumpkin ones we got ghost ones we have I like the ones that have the pieces inside of them have
you had one of those yet no yeah get one of those yeah I can't remember what I might have done I might
have got a bag of bite-size last year why did I do that that's just wrong listen to hand out to kids who knows I'm
here you go here's a bunch of bite-size I enjoy unwrapping all these my old neighborhood you could not gauge how
many trick you know how like you try to gauge how many you are expecting yeah and my old neighborhood I lived there
for 11 years it was never the same year after year like like one year I would get like three kids then the next year I
would get like 70 like it was there was no figuring that out I think that neighborhood had a lot of houses that
were rentals it had some apartments so I think because of the the fluctuating neighborhood you couldn't really figure
it out but like I only got a handful last year so but I was over prepared which I think it was good and then my
mother is a chocolate chocoholic hmm so I basically just dropped off a bag of candy to her later and then I think I
had two extra bags cuz they're really pretty inexpensive now yeah they're like four bucks yeah so I dropped off a bag
to my mother and then I dropped off a bag to my sister that has some kids so they got like I probably gave them as
much as they got going out all day they probably were thinking why why we go out
all night trick-or-treating when we could just ask our uncle for candy I never experienced the limiting you know
how some parents would be like they would take the candy at the end of the night yeah from the kids and they'd be
like you get five pieces a day and you know what I mean like or or they would they would take the candy give the child
some of the candy and be like okay you can eat that whenever you want and then the rest of this is going yeah I've got
to keep my bag or whatever I used yeah in my room is that what you're saying yeah yeah I would never
experience where where the candy was taken from me and I wasn't allowed to to consume all of it yeah I know I was that
parent I would the boys would go out trick-or-treating it and then in fairness they sometimes went out
trick-or-treating like multiple times right so they're getting gobs and gobs of candy cuz you know when when I was
younger when you were younger that you'd go out one time and that was at one time
and now it's like that well we'd go out and then maybe one of our you know one of our friends would go
hey when's your trick-or-treat we'll go to your towns and so you know it would be group of parents and it was a lot
more fun because you're hanging out with the parents and and drinking some hot chocolate or coffee or whatever walking
around with the kids and they're just goofing off and having a good time you're not really paying attention
you're just talking with the parents and then they go hey one of you guys come over to our place tomorrow and we'll go
trick-or-treating in our area right okay sure and then like son Saturday that the town is doing a spooky
village downtown and right you know so I would pull the candy back and then but these kids were freaks anyways because
they weren't like snackers mmm you know so I just be like hey give me your bag or your your pumpkin or whatever your
candies and if you want something let me know mmm-hmm and it would be like every few
days I want to get some of my candy okay and then take a bunch of stuff and go the room but but maybe that's why I have
a issue with it because when I get if I probably I don't like to buy candy and keep it in my house cuz I'll eat it yeah
that's what I gave away all the extra I don't I mean I like to trick-or-treat as
a kid I don't like it so much as an adult as an adult I prefer to stay home and pass out the candy rather than
walking around and the kids that I'm walking around with they're quite little and they don't want to do the walking
themselves so I'm carrying children the Holtz I'm which is a it's it's a [ __ ] and
then I have to go up to the door I don't want to go to the door I'm now I'm old I
you know I I'm past going it does help it will help you get your steps in for the day that's true but that's other
than that mmm not no reason to go out and uh yeah and I just I I don't know why I enjoy passing out the candy
me too and I really enjoyed like knowing like all it's it's beggar's night tonight call it what you want to call
and I enjoyed that but it was the first time I I mean I lived in a house before I can't remember if I lived there during
Halloween time but we were so far out in the middle of nowhere that we didn't do
anything hmm so was the first time to like actually own a house and and yeah you take pride
in your house and go okay I was trick-or-treating and there's not a lot of kids in my neighborhood but I are you
I felt bad for him because it seemed like some people weren't passing out candy and and it was also sprinkling and
then I think it like started raining pretty hard and I just thought what a crappy night for these kids well and the
polite thing to do is if you're not going to participate and pass out candies turn all your lights off yeah
and what I like to do is I'd I would bring my you know the little fire pit or outdoor fireplace yeah I would always
bring that around to the front yard put it in the front yard and burn and a fire
and then turn on a bunch of lights and then usually I put on a some music on it's loud enough inside that you can
hear it outside yeah I sit on the front porch and drink pumpkin beer and pass out candy that's that's a fantastic well
if you have enough lights on and you got like a little fire and you got like some
festive festive things going on it's inviting to the kids because some of the kids are a little weary which they
should be of approaching a stranger's home yeah so I like to put on some things and
make it a little more fun a little more inviting for especially for the little ones that are some of the little kids
are terrified remember the I can't remember what Kramer was doing but Kramer would do a thing where he's like
getting food ready and he's like gonna watch a show or something at Jerry's apartment cuz Jerry's gone mm-hmm he's
kind of like dancing around like a idiot mm-hmm he's all excited that's how I was
last year before trick-or-treat was getting out my big skull it's a big skull bowl and I was getting that out
and putting the candy in and setting it up right outside my garage and then I had the Monster Mash on right which you
know amongst amongst dance song is good enough you can play it any time of year I love that song you know can I give you
a suggestion here's what I would suggest you were talking about full-size candy bars at one time yeah I've been thinking
about that it's that's kind of cool the only issue I take with that is if you get a kid that that doesn't like the
full-size that you chose I was doing a sort man yeah cuz I used to do I did full size one year but then what I've
gone back to is I go back to the fun size but I get a whole bunch of different kinds and put them in the put
them in a bucket or in something and I and I just tell the kid take a handful oh yeah yeah that's what I was doing
after like the once I realized like there's probably 15 20 minutes of no kids mm-hmm and it's only like a
two-hour window so then I was going I got all this candy so when they come up I just say take a handful and if they
wanted I'd take a handful myself and then put it in their bags I felt I feel like we went longer when
we were kids oh yeah I think but I also secretly yeah but I also think we didn't
like wait for the real start time like I feel I feel like we because I remember half of my trick-or-treat being in the
it was still light out like I feel like you get home from school and half hour later you're putting on your costume and
you're going out yeah you know maybe by 4:30 5:00 o'clock you're already out and rolling
and I fit nowadays it's what like six to eight yeah probably six to seven thirty
I'm like yeah yes yeah I think it's at least two hours I'm sure it's different in every county and and all that stuff
do you but do you remember the last time you went trick-or-treating we as a kid yes so this is kind of weird because
some people are gonna be like wow you were you know how some people do it way too way too old and other people stop
way too early the last time I went trick-or-treating I would have been in seventh grade and I can remember that
because I remember the the people I went around with now I didn't go trick-or-treating in sixth grade I
thought I was too old so I didn't go and it was actually I probably wouldn't have
gone in seventh grade based off of my age but a buddy of mine had like this brilliant idea and I was always one of
those kids that either you know like my mom was super involved in a good way but
many years she chose what I was for Halloween she just didn't feed you right and then there was a couple times that I
chose what I was gonna be for Halloween but didn't like didn't really have mom's
backing so it wasn't like she didn't really help out with the costume really well right so my friend in seventh grade
said and I believe it was his idea it's funny when you look back on these things and then you talk to these people
and they're like no that was your idea right right but I'm gonna give him credit for this and I thought it was a
brilliant idea and I only went trick-or-treating because of I wanted to dress up he suggested to be Hans and
Franz from Saturday Night Live yeah and it was a super easy costume to do all we
each purchased or maybe we already had them was just a gray sweat suit you know pants and shirt sweat suit and the
weightlifter belt and the weightlifting gloves and then we stuffed the we stuffed some stuff underneath our shirts
to make us look big and strong and we both had Buzz cuts you know I remember like every boy
in our grown up had a buzz haircut brain and Hans and Franz have the the buzz cut
so it was so easy to do and it was funny because we would do the voice and we would do the clap and the point when we
get to people's doors and the the parents thought it was freakin hilarious right because they're big into surgeon
right the kids most the kids didn't know who the hell we were parents do it the Hans and Franz kill me now and believe
me later we should go bump you up oh I love when they're he's doing yoga all you girly
man yeah what do you was your last trick or treat I'm not really for sure but I I
think it was a time probably middle school feels like that's the cutoff right yeah I want to say it was like I
want to say it was sixth grade and and I could be wrong I could have I could here's what I can't remember is there
was a picture that was taking my mother took a picture like oh your friends came
over and you're you're gonna go trick-or-treating but it was one of those times where like your mother also
thinks that you're too old to go right the they're not saying that you can't go they're just saying we're not gonna
we're not gonna put the effort into helping you go Ryan so there's this picture and but the weird thing about
the pictures there's four people in the picture but two of them are have passed on now
which is kind of strange to think of two kids your age I'm passing on but I can't
remember if it was that time that there was my last time or if there was another
time because both times it was like don't really have an idea for costume let's just put on a mask with a hoodie
that's what I was gonna say and you're doing no effort I might have gone yeah I I may have gone in sixth grade and
because I know for certain in fifth grade and maybe in sixth grade as well I thought I was too old or my parents
thought I was too old something like that but then there other neighborhood kids my age are older
and they're like yeah I just wear the same mask every year right and I put on a hoodie and while I walk around with a
pillowcase and fill it up and in yeah and a bunch of the kids did that they had one mask that they kept in a closet
somewhere and wore year after year and just they were just in it for the candy I forgot about that that was the big
thing like I was noticing that like the grocery stores how when we were younger there would be just orange pumpkin
bucket now there's orange walking around with and fill it up with candy yeah but
you know there's I go now they'll sell a go orange pumpkin a purple pumpkin they'll sell Frankenstein head same yeah
they they make special tea bags we were walking around with pillowcases I mean there was like one kid that was I don't
know maybe his parents were billionaires or something but they had a he had like
a glow-in-the-dark bucket that was Halloween like it like a Frankenstein green head the gluon that would glow in
the dark when he walked around it some of the kids would carry flashlights you remember that yeah well I do remember
that our thought was well we're older now and trees kind of stupid and we didn't go to the old neighborhood we
went to the newer section because the houses were closer and we thought we'd get more candy well let's just go
it's almost like before we went nobody wanted to go and then we started going and we got like three blocks in and we
kind of talked like jokingly you know how kids do you act like you're really tough well here's what we should do we
should go three blocks and after three blocks that's just still a couple kids bags in the end not that I was an angel
but I never stole any of the candy from anybody well it was so funny because I want to say that our group started off
bigger and then got smaller cuz you know sometimes you run into your other friends and then you go oh let's all go
yeah but like I said we're probably out for about 15 minutes it was still light out outside but then I think one of my
friend said yeah well we could always grab a kid's bag or something and we all kind of you know we've been joking about
it all day like yeah we're gonna go true treating and once we get bored we'll just steal couple bags right I then take
and then somebody brought it up well I guess we could steal somebody's bag and then we were just we felt we kind of
looked at each other like that is so stupid right and why would we do that and so the next the funny thing was like
there was no there was no speaking there was no it was just the next kid that came up like the next group of kids we
we all there was like maybe three of us now and three of them and we said do you
guys want our candy and these three kids were like what and we dumped all our candy in their bags so we went from
talking trash all day about stealing kids bags to just giving up art candy well and you know I feel like the
Halloween trick-or-treat shenanigans really went on late at night and I don't like I said I didn't partake in any of
that and it's not because I was an angel I used to love my favorite thing about Halloween back then in still to this day
they don't do it as much it used to be overboard back then every freaking TV show had a Halloween special back then
like they had a Halloween themed they would do their regular show regular sitcom but it would either be they would
either make it scary or they would make it Halloween themed some great ones with the Simpsons yeah
and I loved that as a kid so like after after it started to get dark you know all the good shows came on at like eight
o'clock and later I wanted to be home by 8:00 so I could see the Halloween themed
sitcoms and TV Roseanne used to do a good one I remember that well like you said the Simpsons is probably the best
well I always like to watch the Great Pumpkin or sometimes they put on a scary movie
you know Halloween would be on or you hit bumps the TV version of Nightmare on Elm Street something like
that I always wanted that that that was my favorite part of Halloween I hope they start doing kind of what they do at
Christmas time where like TBS will like play the Christmas story all day mm-hm it would be kind of cool why gets
trick-or-treat is different night for everybody but it would be kind of cool if they had just different Halloween
shows that were like looped as you pick yeah as you passed out the candy to all the kids
oh I will say and this is going to be very late but I a couple weeks ago I saw hallow Halloween I saw it chapter 2 yeah
I haven't seen it yeah so here's woods my thoughts it the first you know the first one yeah
chapter one was very good chapter two blue chapter one out of the water man chapter two is so good
see I heard it was just they liked I heard a lot of people like chapter one better because it was the kids yeah
there was some cheesy stuff because they are adults I thought chapter two was scarier from a
from a jump standpoint alright you know where they where there's just like boom pop you know you I I thought people were
I solved it I like to see some of the scary movies in a theater because I like to see the people's reactions or hear
their reactions throughout the movie I thought people were reacting more to chapter two than they did chapter one
mm-hmm I thought the story portion was better the acting was great what's that one dude that we like so
much though hater he was fantastic he's fantastic in it I didn't know that he was going to fit in that well but yeah
so but but but by now it's the movies been out for a month or so oh but back to this you know like I said it
it felt like my last Halloween or the last beggar's night last retreat it felt like was a show called The Wonder Years
that's what it felt like in the moment if they like that like like you were aware this is something that's over like
after tonight it was like you know we went and we got bored and the you know and then the scene would have been you
know he would have said and and then Kevin said we should still these kids trick-or-treat bags and without it
without even talking we hand it over our but our candy to the next little kids right and we realized that this time has
passed and we're we're now too old for this and we're approaching adulthood or whatever or work closer to to the people
that are or closer to becoming the the people that pass out the candy then the people that go around and get it but it
was just one of those moments where in that moment it's nostalgic right and in it but it's happening it's happening so
yeah I need to see it too though I I probably wait so it comes out is it rental yeah I don't think so because I
just saw it in the theater in the ice well I can tell you what I saw I saw it like September 7th I believe mmm
was when I saw it in the theater and that's wrong I can believe the lie to you yeah I'm a liar pants on fire
solid yes I saw it mid-september that's what we know I'm looking up because I looked it up I want to make sure that
was called the Great Pumpkin and not the Great Pumpkin show because where I used
to teach guitar lessons that Circleville Ohio has a pumpkin festival that is a week-long pumpkin show it's called the
pumpkin show and they shut down the whole city and I remember like the first year of teaching there
when okay well how long was this event oh it's all week okay well we should still have lessons right no they don't
even go to school now which is crazy can you imagine like if that would be great
if you're a kid there because you get out of school for a whole week my where I live they shut down the schools for
two days on a Thursday Friday for a horse race and I didn't I didn't go down there but I've heard that it's just a
kind of a real [ __ ] show down there that everybody's that everybody's just kind
of drinking in the streets and drunk for two days straight I I don't know why I've never been able to go down there
and experience it because I always have some conflicting thing going on at the same time but one of these days captain
you're gonna get drunk with the kids well not with children I'm gonna but I'll be out in the streets are they're
not gonna have schools so they're gonna be it's true the problem they're probably drunk too well I I had to play
a gig one time during the pumpkin show and they have these parades with marching bands and stuff every day
and uh so I was playing this gig and I had to park really far away and I was wheeling my my gear and I just asked
somebody wears such-and-such bar and they go it's right over there and the parade was happening but I was
running late so I had to like marching band way and I'm pushing my haste through the parade and these kids
probably went oh god what a loser by to candy [Applause] you

Nic and the Captain discuss: Last Trick-Or-Treat

Brief Summary

Guests discuss favorite Halloween candies and childhood trick-or-treating memories, highlighting Snickers and trading candy experiences.

Key points

Candy Corn Memories. A nostalgic look back at childhood and candy corn's role in survival.
Trick-or-Treating Traditions. Discussing the fun of passing out candy and the unpredictability of trick-or-treaters.
Halloween Nostalgia. Reflecting on the joy and simplicity of childhood Halloweens.
The Great Pumpkin Show. A week-long festival in Circleville, Ohio, where schools shut down for pumpkins!

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I associate candy corn with survival.

Reflecting on childhood memories of candy corn.

7:21WatchOct 28, 2019

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