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true [Music] [Music] crime [Music] the year is 1964 and in the United States of America
president Lyndon B Johnson declares war on poverty the Warren Commission reports
their findings stating that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman Cashes Clay defeats Sunny Lon to become the
heavyweight boxing champion of the world the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is signed Dr Martin Luther King wins the Nobel
Peace Prize the first Ford Mustang hits the streets and amongst the popular films is
the unforgettable Mary Poppins the rock band The Rolling Stones released their debut record self-titled The Rolling
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the top 100 a little more than 75 years after Jack the Ripper in the UK they abolished
the death penalty in the Streets of London there were a string of murders that quickly became known as the London
nude murders the suspect became known as Jack the stripper in Scotland yard was about to unleash one of the largest manh
hunts London would ever see and unfortunately there would be victim after victim how many total well just
like Jack the Ripper the victim count is Up For Debate this is true crime garage and
this is the case of the London nude [Music] murders [Music] okay almost everybody knows the story or
at least has heard of Jack the Ripper and of course no one really knows who Jack the Ripper was mhm uh but few have
heard of the killer that became known as Jack the stripper uh we're talking about
the London nude murders you might know of the name Jack the stripper it's a there's a rock band called Jack the
stripper and there was also a rock song by Black Sabbath which was an instrumental tune called Jack the
stripper and that's why on our intro when I introduced the captain there I said Fairies Wear Boots that's because
on the album paranoid uh the they pair those songs together it's Jack the stripper SL Fairies Wear Boots which was
one of my favorite Black Sabbath songs so um but just like Jack the I'm sorry just like Jack senior Jack the
Ripper Jack the stripper too is an unknown serial killer Jack the Ripper is not just a clever name Jack named
himself in taunting letters to the police and to the public and some have argued are those from the actual killer
and others would suggest that they are simply a hoax for some sicko or from someone or someone wishing to increase
newspaper sales but Jack the Ripper uh he didn't just kill he ripped he would rip his victims apart meaning he would
cut the victims sometimes a lot slitting the throat cutting into the abdomen uh and actually removing body parts you
know uterus liver the tip of one's nose or clipping the ears now Jack the stripper he did not cut his victims he
strangled them and he did not rip them or remove any body parts he left his strangled victims nuded or pretty much
fully exposed this of course leading to the name of the unknown perpetrator but the crimes in remain unsolved and it's
unsolved murders of seven of London's working girls go ahead so let's go back a little bit I mean so the stripper part
makes sense but using Jack the stripper is just because of the area that these crimes took place in MH yep and uh they
would also be called the London nude murders as well as the Hammer Smith murders our story starts at 1964 London
England um now earlier I did say seven victims but as you will see when we go through this that there is some debate
regarding the actual number of victims here yeah it seems like the consensus is that there's six confirmed victims and
possibly another two maybe even more but so when you see this uh normally if you're looking up this case you'll see
six confirmed possibly eight during the years of 1964 and 1965 six women are found dead in or around the river tames
the first victim that we're going to talk about is Hannah tailord uh she was 30 years old at the time of her death
Hannah was excluded from several schools when she was a young girl uh as she was
pretty disruptive at school when she was a teenager she ran away to the big big city of London uh it was not long after
her arrival that she started getting into more trouble she was convicted a a couple of times of for
soliciting now apparently she was quite desperate or just a terrible person because on one occasion she placed a
classified ad in a local paper offering to sell her unborn baby to the highest bidder uh it has also been reported that
Hannah had told some friends she was being paid to participate in bizarre orgies hosted by some of the more
well-to-do londoners she was known to have been offered money to have sex on camera and
it's speculated that she in some she was in some stag films Hannah also told a friend she had attended an orgy at the
home of a French diplomat named Andre now on one occasion after having been paid she was taken by a limousine to a
house where a man in a gorilla costume had sex with her while a crowd of rich and wealthy onlookers cheered um that's
a definitely strange yeah that's you know usually when I throw a party I turn on a football game and put out some guac
and uh you know but no gorilla suit I normally have the gorilla suit but just not all the other stuff cuz gorilla
suits are fun we mentioned these things to show what kinds of ties she may have had and what kind of suspect pool the
police could have been dealing with because on February 2nd 1964 her the body of 30-year-old Hannah
tailord was found by rowers on the tames shore near Hammersmith Bridge mhm she was naked except for a pair of stockings
and she had been strangled several of her teeth were missing and her underwear had been stuffed in her mouth during the
investigation police interviewed hundreds of people who they knew to have had dealings with prostitutes including
an international soccer player and several members of the clergy two months later this was April 8th Irene
Lockwood who was only 26 years of age was found a few hundred yards Upstream in the river tames now so that she's
found very close to the first victim that we just discussed Hannah tailord MH they were able to determine that Irene
had been in the water for less than 48 hours and like Hannah she had been strangled with a leature possibly a
piece of her own clothing she had been stripped before being placed in the water like Hannah the police had some
strange leads to to follow things she may have known or things that she may have done could have played a big part
in her murder only about a year before the young woman was found dead one of her friends had been found beaten to
death this is Vicky Pender and her body was found in her North London flat Vicki
had tried to Blackmail some of her clients over photos she had taken of them and I guess Irene Lockwood had some
of her own tricks Irene would take clients to a flat and she would insist that the man remove his pants and then
leave them outside of the room before entering to have sex when he would go into the room someone would go through
the man's pockets and steal any money or valuables that were found another trick
that she did this was very much like that from the Seinfeld episode where George met a woman and then they went to
a hotel room and she handcuffed him to the bed and robbed him well Irene she would uh agree to go to a private room
room with a man and she would tie him up and then she would Rob him sometimes taking his clothes police suspected that
these two murders may have been connected to two previous murders these are the deaths of Elizabeth fig also
known as an Phillips Elizabeth's body was found in the early morning hours by officers on their regular beat on June
17th 1959 she was kind of sitting up she was like slumped against a tree and her
dress was torn open exposing her body as well as you know easily visible scratches around her throat right she
had been strangled I guess her boyfriend in the beginning was she he was a suspect early on her boyfriend was a
boxer and was Elizabeth's pimp as well he was known to have slapped Elizabeth around but for some reason he was ruled
out fairly quickly into the investigation the other murder that was that of 22-year-old Gwyneth Reese Reese
was found about a mile from Elizabeth's body on the riverbank now gwyneth's body
was found November 8th 1963 but the weird thing here she was last seen almost 6 months before so she's last
seen getting so she was missing for roughly six months yeah she I'm sorry six weeks before I apologize but yeah no
one had seen her in 6 weeks and then she turns up on the shore still a long time
I mean 6 months would be obviously a lot longer but 6 weeks for no to see you um
again as far as this profession goes um you're working mostly at night so I I would assume that there'd be weeks at of
the time where that your normal crowded people would not see you exactly and this is only when she's reported to have
been last scene who knows um but she's last seen getting into a car with a man uh this is way back in September of that
year uh this is at the end of September of 63 police suspected strangulation to be the cause of her death but this was
never 100% determined to be the cause of death mhm and this is why it should be one of the one of the victims that they
don't confirm as one of the victims at uh of Jack the stripper yeah Elizabeth Elizabeth fig uh murdered in 1959 and
Gwyneth ree murdered in 1963 some debate that they are part of Jack the stripper's case and other very similar
very similar and then it looks to me with all these cases so far it looks girls that have uh some sort of
desperation and then seems like a either one man or a group of males that have power that have money and uh like to
also hum humiliate not just have sex with but to do almost like I'm rich and I'm powerful let me take this to the
extreme or just I'm in control of this situation uh so Gwyneth re just like the other girls uh again it wasn't 100%
determined that she was strangled but strangulation was suspected uh she was found naked and she was missing some
teeth like in Elizabeth's case gwyneth's pimp now he is not not believed to have
been her actual boyfriend uh but her pimp was suspected this is Cornelius Whitehead and he was a violent criminal
with Gangster ties right he was suspected of being violent with women as well we don't know sometimes You' see
this as a way to teach the other women that are working for him like don't get out of line right he's he's running his
little you know criminal business and this is how criminals behave well yeah and you're messing it up so you mess up
uh you'll end up dead and this is a warning to all the other girls that that instills fear and then they they're
never going to leave I couldn't find any record of him actually having been violent
with her with gwynth um but we do know that she did say uh that she intended to leave him I guessing you know not work
for uh Cornelius Whitehead anymore uh but shortly this happened just shortly before she disappeared and he was
reporting looking for her uh after she had disappeared MH another possible he's looking for his paycheck well another
possible lead here too was the abortion angle abortions were still El Al in the UK at this time but much like we had
discussed in the Black Dalia case you could find someone an an illegal abortionist uh to carry out these things
and Gwyneth had already had she already had two children neither were living with her and relying on her for Care at
the time which is probably a very good thing surprise surprise and uh but she had some illegal procedures before the
summer before her disappearance Gwyneth had become pregnant and after her disappearance some other prostitutes had
said that she had been looking to contact an illegal abortionist well and also at this time it's
1964 birth control is probably a lot harder to get and probably more expensive and I don't know what forms
exactly what forms they would have had so it's probably limited as well uh but right now Captain what we're seeing here
is a couple things okay so we got two cases that the police are saying are very much connected we have two that
they suspect could be part of this whole thing uh but what we can see by the lifestyles
that these four women have led and the people that they have known and furthermore things that they had done to
other people I mean a couple of these girls had you know robbed people and uh you know done a couple things to
humiliate their customers or blackmail people uh so we're already starting to see too many suspects you know we have
four dead women all working the Streets of London and we can immediately see an issue with the investigation of each of
these cases yeah but when you overstep your B boundaries I mean when these uh clients are paying for kind of obscene
almost degrading types of actions you know it's you know it's one thing to go have sex in a room it's another thing to
go hey well this guy's going to put on a monkey suit and we're going to have um a
crowd sharing it on now look if you're into that thing that's that's on you but I could see um being treated like this
being treated even less than that you expect to be treated that hey I'm going to pay you back you know like you think
you got one on over on me well I've been stealing stuff from you or taking pictures that I shouldn't have been
taking and uh I'm going to get mine yeah and the the first off the obvious is the
high-risk lifestyle of the profession and you know that leads to this large suspect pole and we're not talking about
just an investigation into the deaths of all four of these women whether they're
connected or not we could be talking about them even in an individual case we could have a large suspect pool now
victim similarities there are a bunch of similarities here so far all four women
were 5'2 or less so they're shorter women all four had suffered an STD several of them had several missing
teeth now that may not be part of the actual crime this could this could just be the the part of the life style yeah
which is totally just simply point out how poor they were or unable to afford certain products or personal hygiene
products one of this is also the time where they wouldn't they wouldn't do implants or do crowns and stuff like
that they would just yank the tooth MH and three of the four women were pregnant and at least two of the
pregnant women were trying to cancel the pregnancy Irene had been taking pills to
achieve this and she believed that they were working because she said that the the pills had made her tummy move move
oh that's horrible so police were pretty convinced that they are dealing with the
work of one killer who has gone out on four separate occasions and murdered a woman and stripping and dumping the
bodies in or around the river mhm keep one thing in mind though here uh he may have been forcing the women to strip
before strangling them or he could have been stripping them of their clothing afterward now police would suspect that
he's stripping them afterwards because yeah a postm they they are familiar with the
prostitutes in the area and they say that the working girls in the area are mostly using vehicles to spend their
time with the Johns and most of them would not strip at all or they would not need to strip all the way for for the
act right uh they were hike up the skirt yeah they you know they could just remove whatever necessary clothing they
could or or lift something up or pull something down oh by the way if uh your kids should not be listening to this
episode so if your kids are listening to this episode please turn it off or let the state take your
children anyways but one thing they have figured out and one thing that they suspect is that they don't seem to see
this killer as some kind of crazy maniac uh he doesn't seem to be out of control
uh there are not really any known sightings of the killer having been with the women right before their death or
the last time that they are seen But the killer seems to be in control of himself
do you think it's uh the manner in which they're found do you think it's almost like planned if we
do if if the body is found like this a b c and d that the police will assume that
it's a mad man I think that it would show I think what they're talking about here is that each victim seems to show
almost identical an identical form of attack um where he is not you know it's not a it's not a stabbing one one time
it's not a strangulation one time somebody's not Beat to Death it's it's seems to be the same attack over and
over again where he's really he's really just it's an ends to a means almost like
you know or means to an end I'm sorry where he it's just part of what he's doing right so this is how I kill
somebody I I follow this plan and he's getting better at the plan as he goes along and what they mean by this too is
that he would be very messy if he were a maniac you know if if he was out of control out of his mind obviously this
guy's a sicko but if he was not in control of himself he probably would have been seen disposing of the bodies
or seen with the women the last time they were seen yeah I know that but I'm just saying I wonder if the person that
is committing these crimes going oh I'm going to rip up their clothes and do some things pop possibly postmortem is
is that for a motive to throw the cops off for some reason this is what yeah and that's one thing that I had wondered
about as well and a good thing to bring up you know was he removing the clothing
just to destroy you know just so that there's less evidence or was it just something that
he needed to do again the police wanted to figure out was he forcing them to strip in advance or was this something
he was doing afterwards and so now we're at four possible victims of the total uh
the eight possible total victims so this is a good time to take a beer this show
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break cheers my friends cheers let's talk about some of the additional police efforts involved in the investigation in
the London nude murders so police are going to start strategizing which is what you have to do right you have to
figure out how are we going to find this guy how do we find the criminal no duh we have seen some patterns and some
repeated behaviors and tendencies of the person that you're are hunting so what do you do you're going to try to use
those repeated behaviors and tendencies to track him down and apprehend him or if you can't track him down you must lay
a trap and try to lure him Out of the Shadows right and you know so little where a victim was last seen or who was
with that person you know so it's going to be hard to track this down this guy down so Captain let's start setting some
traps right the police hire additional officers they increase their police force and the new officers are brought
in with one simple purpose they are to watch and Patrol the river we can't stop him from killing again but
maybe what we can do is we can limit this to only one more victim right well and they could also deter him from if
you know he's probably patrolling the area himself and so you start seeing more cops beefing up security you know
uh and and then you start thinking well is this the best place to to leave my next victim mhm and but if he does
continue to do what he does he should be returning to the River's Edge Ed with another body soon and if you're
patrolling and watching the river maybe you can catch him with a body in his arms yeah or if these girls are you know
walking the street or maybe they even walk this river that maybe they'll see somebody leave with one of the the
victims mhm well just as much as the police can set their trap in the in the killer again he seems much in control of
himself and somewhat in control of this case they zigged and now the Killer is going to zag he dumps his next victim he
dumps the next body of his fifth victim in an Alleyway this is away from the river April 24th 1964 this is only about
2 weeks after the finding of the fourth dead woman Irene Lockwood so on April 24th Helen bartholomy she's only 20
years old uh she was found dumped in an Alleyway which is a little younger than the other victims mhm she was nuded and
signs of strangulation or exix iation were present Helen was a short Street worker who had suffered an STD again we
see the same pattern and she but again it's 1964 so there's less um options for pregnancies and and and Contra
contraceptives but there is also probably less Health Care as far as uh sexually transmitted diseases go as well
MH and Helen she was known to have frequented or worked some of same areas including some pubs underground clubs
and drinking dens as some of the other girls police find some forensics at this crime scene though they find microscopic
specs of a different of different colored paints on Helen's skin analysis of the paint
reveals that it was identical to paint used in an automatic paint spray uh when they spray paint into cars or onto
furniture or any type of metal work it's identical to that kind of paint so police have their first lead and now
they will employ a call to action this was unusual especially for the time Scotland Yard made a public appeal for
prostitutes to come forward and they were promised absolute secrecy and of course they were reminded too that this
was in the prostitutes best interest as they may be the only source of information that the police could have
right also that are being targeted they're also in the most danger of being hunted by this monster yeah he he's not
at this point he's not hunting anybody that doesn't work in that industry there the police statement saying uh police
are fearful if information is not forthcoming by other prostitutes that other prostitutes will be killed they
were particularly interested in interviewing anyone that had been made to strip and then was assaulted
afterwards right within the first two days uh their efforts they they see some reward for their efforts they have over
40 female prostitutes come forward and over 20 men came forward to speak with police so the response was good they
also start logging the plate numbers of cars that they see out after dark M they
also have female officers walking the streets they are disguised as prostitutes some of them armed with tape
recorders you know so if they get into a situation they can they can record anything that go
which is interesting for 1964 and the prostitutes were arming themselves as well you know they they
were carrying knives or some kind of weapon when they would go out for the night and if if I were a prostitute I
would just arm myself regardless of what's going on but that's that's just me uh July 14th the body of Mary Fleming
is found in a sitting type position at the entrance of a garage this is in an area that is now being heavily patrolled
by the officers this seems like something he would have only done as a necessity to me or he's trying to taunt
the police which they they believe that at the time that you know we're we're watching this area and he just puts one
in our backyard but they well yeah I believe that too because like like we were talking about they beef up Security on
the river so now the guy's gone well I can't dump him here so then he dumps in the alleyway that's fine he chances are
he has his body it's in the car he goes down to the river and he sees Patrol men
and he's like oh [ __ ] takes her in the car drives somewhere else dumps her there now he's on the lookout for more
security and as he sees more police officers patroling the area and I'm sure he has some knowledge of what's going on
because he's hearing from other prostitutes he's probably hearing from other Johns he's he's hearing from all
these people what's going on and he's listening to the news yeah and the news is is the big thing at the time and so
now yeah it's it's it's a toal move of I'm going to put it right in your back pocket and you can't stop me yeah yeah
it's definitely a taunt but the police they will get lucky again here because Mary's body contained the same paint
evidence that was discovered uh earlier you know this this evidence is on her body yeah is but now are we assuming
like you said this is some kind of spray paint which um so maybe automobile worker or Furniture worker or something
of that nature so we think it's a laborer yeah and this is pretty much confirming their suspicions that they
got what they believe to being you know they were believing all along that these
cases or most of them are in fact linked right yeah I I don't like the fact that
they dismissed the two but uh we we'll continue down the path now on October 23rd 1964 two prostitutes had been
working together for their own safety they were going on these things together uh they were approached by two cars each
with a driver uh this is where the two of them split up each of them going in one of the vehicles Kim Taylor reported
to the police that her friend Francis Brown got into either a Ford Zephyr or zodiac and she had not been seen since
she had not seen her friend since she got in that car weird coincidence with the Zodiac so but now here's what we're
starting to see we're starting to see things loosen up and work more towards the police fa favor because we've
already said hey we've made this call out to the people working the streets and said you know you're sworn to
secrecy we'll keep your information you're not going to get in any trouble by coming forward this is the only way
that they have a chance at catching this guy well and then the obvious chance is
him just completely messing up but this guy seems like somebody that's in control so now they have the paint
evidence and now now they believe they have what could be a description of a vehicle the body of Francis Brown she
was the girl that went with the with the other car in the Ford Zephyr or zodiac now you said there was a driver so
there's a driver of each car correct like I just wanted I wanted it to be clear that it wasn't two guys pulling up
in one car it was uh two two separate vehicles pulled up to talk to both of the girls not like a professional driver
correct it one person right there's one person in the car okay EX exactly the body of Francis Brown the girl that went
in the car in the the Ford Zephyr or zodiac she was found one month later on November 25th she is found on a side
street again a this victim is a short prostitute an STD carrier and paint spots are again found on her body now
Taylor her friend Kim Taylor tries to provide a description of the man to police they use what's called an identic
uh to put together a description of a round-faced man of medium height and a sturdy build um this description doesn't
provide them anything other than they're able to release this General description
to the public yeah they don't do a composite sketch at this time no this the I think the way that the identic
works is that they show you like a shape of some eyes and they say does this look
like his eyes and you say yes yes you know yes or no and then they put those down then they show you a shape of a
nose and you go through there and then at the end they put them all together and this
is what your guy looks like or somewhat well the sketch of this guy if you seen it or you know the the probably the most
popular sketch of Jack the stripper he kind of looks like uh like a little more handsome version of of The Goonies of
the the the crazy guy from The Goonies yeah uh sloth okay yeah with a little more hair too yeah he has yeah he
definitely has hair but that's what I'll post that on Instagram stagram if anybody wants check it out okay so what
do we have on this guy so far we have a general description of his appearance we
have a vehicle which was the Ford Zephyr or zodiac uh we can also surmise that he
is probably dumping the bodies in the early morning hours here's the problem with this whole Theory though is she was
gone for a month and a half so this is just the last known sighting we right I mean she could have actually went
missing two weeks after this but it sounds to me like this Kim Taylor was friends with Francis Brown if they had
already made plans that they're going to go out and work together you know one would assume that Kim Taylor was
probably going to go out and work another night and she would look for her friend to go out with her right so she
would see her before the the month and a half exactly and she's come forward I agree with you she's come forward to
police before her friend's body's even found again though let's go back to U the thinking that we're on here right
that that we might be able to figure out that he's probably dumping the bodies in
the early morning hours and this holds a little bit of weight here Captain because when Mary Fleming's body was
found right several of the people that lived in near in the nearby area had reported hearing a car reversing down
the street just minutes before the body was found the body was found by a chauffeur driver at about 5 a.m. yeah
and what's interesting here is I mean yeah it's 2016 so so not used to this lifestyle
what we're used to is 24 hours a day everything's open you can go get Taco Bell at Taco Bell at what 12:00 on a
weekday sometimes later fourth meal fourth yeah and so this is 1964 this is 1964 and
1965 this is back in the day where once it was dinner time once the street lights came on the the activities
normally died down more now this is London so this is you know their version of like New York City city that never
sleeps but it still was like that you know people had to work the next day people would shut down earlier so you're
looking at a window from like you know 900 p.m. to the following day about 6: a.m. where everything becomes very very
calm and so if you hear a car at 2:00 3:00 in the morning you're going to remember it you're going to take notice
of this yeah and I hope you know what I hope that the chauffeur driver was fully
vetted and figured out whether he had any kind of involvement at all um but that's a whole another story now the
other thing going on here is they noticed that after this killer heated up the last few murders that he had
committed they were no longer than 3 months apart so by January of 1965 the police were really thinking that we are
going to find another body any day now well something may have thrown the killer off of his game because
this time it was almost 4 months you know we we see a little bit of a a waiting period here it wasn't until
February 16th of 1965 that the naked body of 28-year-old bridey oare was found behind a storage shed this is just
less than a mile from where they found the last victim Mary Fleming had been found and of course she is found again
with the same paint specs on her so if you can't find your killer you need to find where the paint is located or
coming from right yeah they had been searching for the paint location for months in fact they had searched over a
24 square mile for the origin of the paint it was after the discovery of Brio hair's body that they were able to find
a matching paint s sample this was beneath a covered Transformer and they find this very near where Bri's body was
found so this Transformer is near well it's opposite a paint spray shop that is located here in Estates they also figure
out that briy had been mummified and this would have taken a heat source to occur so again the Transformer here it
meets all of this ceria right puts some heat yeah the Transformer would have heated up the body so someone was
keeping Bri's body there and had done so for some time and probably the other bodies as well and they find a paint
sample not this paint you know this paint could have got there any number of ways right right but I'm wondering if if
this wasn't simply downwind you know if the Transformer was just downwind of the
of the paint shop uh where specs or flexs of the paint would would travel and get airborne and I wonder if they
just got airborne and traveled a short distance to the Transformer and did the killer even know that the paint was on
the bodies until he you know heard from police yeah and the thing is is this again this is the 60s so we don't have
all these ventilation systems and and all these things to catch all these particles with inside a warehouse so
it'd be more likely that you know cars parked outside this building would have paint specs on it um people possibly
even walking by would get paint specks on them so so we got a couple things to consider here are are the paint specs
getting onto the bodies because they're stored near the paint shop and and it's just getting airborne and carrying down
wind on them or is the killer bringing those paint samples to the body uh that he's in that paint shop and bringing
them there when he visits the body or goes to dump the body yeah or depending on how he paints I mean maybe he doesn't
use gloves so he constantly has paint on his hands then there would be a transfer
process there so these are considered to be the sixth or eight murders that are involved in this case depending on who
you talk to some say that all eight were involved some say that three or four were involved only the ones with the
paint were involved to me they just seem very connected you know it seems like the motive motive was the same they're
they're found in similar locations the strangulation is pretty much the same and if there's any differences between
the the eight they're very small and so it's not like oh we got two that don't make any sense and then these other six
make complete sense together cuz the you know towards the end they're not being dumped by the river now you could say
well that's because security beefed up but again that is something that is different in every uh victim story yeah
and sometimes with these killers they either get lazy or they get complacent you know they feel like oh well I've
done this before I haven't got caught I don't need to go to all these extreme lengths to not get caught you know throw
the body in the river or carry it all the way to the river um I just put it right here you know um because I can
because I've gotten away with it before they're not going to catch me now I think it's more likely that he knew the
cops were patrolling heavier and they beefed up security and and he had to find a different option and one thing
that we alluded to earlier which which you will see if if you study these uh serial killers especially the ones that
are involved in uh taking of prostitutes and and getting high numbers of kills they're very involved in watching the
news listening to the news reading all the newspaper articles about their case because they're they're playing a game
you know they're they're trying to to not get caught to do what they want to do yeah it's the extra bonus on top of
what they're doing yeah their plan is to kill these people for for whatever reason whatever their motive is on top
of that all now this has become big news I also think a lot of these people I think if you look through history of a
lot of these serial killers a lot of them are loners MH and so the fact that they're getting attention even though
it's uh for a negative reason they kind of get off on the attention you're exactly right the attention they get off
on that but they also get off on thinking they're smarter than the people investigating them they also get off on
the fact of well I know something that nobody else knows look at all these people that are interested in this thing
look at all these people that are trying to figure out who I am and what I'm doing well and that some of that is the
society's fault because we've done this thing where a serial killer um you know has a high kill count and then we start
saying words as genius or Mastermind it's really like well it's it's it's definitely a lack of intelligence that
you're going to kill somebody like just that uh idea in general I think would be
a lack of intelligence and then you look at situations like Silence of the Lambs
or something where then we even you know now we got this guy that's extreme genius and all by the way he was a
killer right right and actually that movie I even though it's one of my favorite movies the bad thing about that
is when you talk to a lay person that doesn't really know much about true crime or know much about serial killers
they seem to think that it requires a high level of intelligence to be somebody like that and to get away with
it for so long when actually when you study it for a very long time you will figure out that most of the killers are
of average intelligence some of them are above average some of them are below uh
it does doesn't really hold true don't have to be of superior intelligence to get away with this stuff sometimes it's
just luck um and sometimes it's just you know people people most of the people are good right so when when somebody's
just not the SE Killers right but when somebody's doing some horrible stuff we just we don't assume the bad usually we
assume the good so we do become a little bit blind to some of the things that are
going on around us because of that because you know there's only a small population than God God that are that
are bad evil people so speaking of bad evil people let's talk about some of the suspects in this case right so earlier
on we had saw a couple of the boyfriends or pimps were suspected of those murders
of course um do you think they were called pimps in 1964 that something that came later in
the 70s uh not only that I actually think that because it was uh England that they were probably called something
different uh I think they were called pounces or P I read the word and it didn't really it didn't really didn't
register it didn't register well any of our London listeners just uh send us a message tell us what the technical term
is over in London uh they might use pimp now but I pimp is pretty Universal now right uh but anyway so we had seen a
couple of the boyfriends in some of the pimps uh that were that were uh potential suspects and they were for
whatever reason once they were only considered when their case was an individual murder case right and once
the police figured out and started connecting these things and now we have a string of unsolved murders a lot of
these boyfriends or pimps were no longer considered right because there it would
make no sense and there would be no zero connection with the pimp to these other
prostitutes yeah other than the fact that they are pimps and so they are in the industry mhm and but other than that
there were however a few more in suspects uh so in the case of Irene Lockwood police had found a business
card for a man that was simply named Kenny on the business card accompanied by a phone number and we'll give out
that phone number right now no we we don't have that phone number it's 444 yeah 44 44 well of course the phone
number makes sense uh makes it very easy to find this Kenny character whether that's his real name or if it's a
nickname but when they do track down the man it lead leads them to a former Soldier and his name is guess what
Kenneth archal okay so we are cooking with gas right he at first denies having ever
known uh the victim Irene Lockwood and he says that uh the only way that she would have got his card his name his
number uh they found this in Irene's apartment right yeah he says that she would have had to have got this from a
third party that she received it from somebody else which is very possible CU you have somebody that what you know
some services that maybe he can offer and somebody says oh you call my buddy K Canon and here's his number and
but then here's the thing later he's brought in again he's brought in again at a later date for questioning and this
time they get an entirely different response all right he kind of freaks out on them and he shouts out I killed her
I've got to tell somebody about it what yeah I've killed her and I've got to to tell somebody all right lock him up lock
him up I mean even if he didn't kill her if he felt the need to scream this then
just lock him up well he says that the two of them had argued about money and that he had must have lost his temper
and strangled her he said that uh he must have see it seems like he's assuming he blacked out yeah I think uh
Kenny's got quite the drinking problem um and so it sounds like he's a little unsure of what he's done uh but he did
say that he took off Irene's clothes and he put her in the river and he said that
he took the clothes home and he burned them uh this sounds promising right right we got we got a guy here yeah
where's the validity there's probably some questioning as far as the validity to his story so what happens is he does
go on trial and when he goes on trial he retracts his confession a surprise surprise and this of course screws
everything up because they have no evidence on him other than the confession now Kenneth archal is a
57-year-old former Soldier and once they lose the confession well they lose the case and they also did state that and
they didn't State exactly what it was but they did state that they found some inconsistencies in his confession anyway
yeah and I think part of this could be one the drinking problem and then possible uh PTSD as far as being a
soldier is concerned um we you know a lot of people are asking us what what the what the deal is with false
confessions and I don't think there is a real answer I think some people get pressured and they just don't know what
to say um I I don't have a Rhyme or Reason uh that seems to come up over and over it seems like there's varying
different reasons but more or less it's the pressure that they're being put under I you know I spoke to a detective
about that one time and he told me that he you know he didn't have the ability ility to do it himself but he said that
he knew of a detective that that that he swore that if you spent a certain amount
of time in a room with this detective in in interrogation and uh and you got nervous enough he could probably
convince you that you had done something that you didn't do right and I don't know the psychology behind that but that
you know that's that's what he said that's a nice little power to have yeah it's like Jedi mind trick right uh now
again I couldn't find out exactly why the police ruled him out but again there were inconsistencies in the confession
they lose the confession they lose the case and it does sound like from the things that I've read that police were
starting to doubt Kenny's confession before he even retracted it well good good on them for doubting it cuz we've
seen in case after case where you get a false confession and the cops never let go of that mhm and then they constantly
go back to those we got this confession well the confession doesn't make any sense at one and then two when they
confess again there's no logic between confession number one and number two and they just never let it go and that
really hinders finding the truth yeah well the thing here too is you know it could be something as simple as he got
some dates wrong right maybe he says well I killed her on this night or I killed her on this morning and she's
actually been seen walking around on that time or after that time right um and the other thing we got to keep in
mind too is he's admitting to one of the deaths right yeah we have eight total and the police are pretty certain that
they are dealing with a Serial offender so and the other thing too with Kenneth's confession that that kind of
throws a wrench in the whole thing is there was another girl that was found dead this girl was found dead you know
right around the time he's confessing to it uh this was Helen bth bolamy uh we had talked about her earlier uh she was
one that they had discovered with paint on her so uh he may not not have had the
opportunity to be part of her murder they figure out that he couldn't have been part of that murder and she's got
the paint on her so we know that this this is connected to all the other ones and the person that he suspected of
killing has that same paint on her as well right the one that he confessed to and these police you said it's there's a
possibility that the paint is just getting onto these girls for some other reason it could be but he would have to
have taken his victim to the same location or brought the same paint to the victim as this other killer is
bringing to all the other victims so the the the you know the math there is blowing my mind right now um so these
are other reasons why he was probably ruled out and we'll talk about some other police tactics and there was
another confession right how many confessions we got in this case well there's like 50 there's 50 well there's
probably a lot of people too that after the fact years and years later just kind
of like with the Black Dalia and zodiac and stuff like that where people come out and say my father it was my father
that did it cuz this was a pretty popular case yeah well uh John D Rose and I probably got his name wrong but uh
he was the head of Scotland yard's murder Squad back then and he was in charge during this investigation and
after his retirement he would go on to write a book called Murder was my business he had some he he had a cool
nickname all right so they called him 4day Johnny because when he was involved with cases they were solved very quickly
in his book this case is featured quite extensively which of course makes sense as it's one of the largest
investigations I mean probably even one of the largest investigations of the 1960s so John 4 day Johnny as we'll call
him he decides he's going to turn up the heat right this is during the investigation he knows his man is still
out there and he's going to try to shake the bushes and see what comes crawling out so John States that Scotland Yard
this is to the public they had a very large list of suspects and after uncovering the latest evidence and
further factchecking that they were able to whittle down the list to three suspects and soon that would shrink to
just one suspect well yeah but they did this thing in this case where they would
say oh we have now narrowed it down to 40 we narrowed it down to 20 and then and they kept getting smaller and and
you know then the the big one was we got it down to three but a lot of people think that this was all just horeshit
anyways well I mean come on you and I captain we've seen this tactic this was used in our lifetime it was used by the
Boulder Colorado police in the investigation of the death of John Ben Ramsey right and of course uh it's
probably been used in many investigations where you just say yeah we got this big list now it's down to
three and pretty soon it's going to just be you buddy yeah and if you turn up that
heat you're hoping that they make a mistake or they just get so scared that they turn themselves in mhm yeah yeah he
John was thinking that maybe somebody would come forward and confess or that the perpetrator would panic and do
something crazy or something to get himself caught but regardless the murders did stop John D Rose now he is
the captain of the murder Squad that we've been talking about so now I'm the captain let's talk about 5 years after
the last murder D Rose is on a BB C television show he's doing an interview and in this interview he claims that he
knew the identity of Jack the stripper now furthermore he says that detectives had been preparing to make an arrest in
March of 1965 when news reached them that the suspect that they were looking for had
committed suicide the he had gassed himself in a locked up Garage in Southwest London now he explained that
the press in the television publicity that had been orchestrated by the police it was intended to frighten the suspect
and to make him run and he go on to say eventually it did have the effect that they desired because the killer became
so frightened that he took his own life in his 1971 Memoir murder was my business Ford a Johnny he rep he
repeated his claim saying that the man had left a suicide note explaining that he was unable to take the strain in
longer at the end of the suicide note Captain he says uh if the police are looking for me or I'll do the police a
favor I'll be in the garage he says something to that extent and that's where they find him well first of all
he's not invited into this garage he they find himself he's gassed himself in the garage um another author Brian
mcdonal he fleshed out the suspect further in his 1974 book called found naked a different suspect no this is the
same suspect we're talking about the same guy okay it's just he goes into a little more detail in his book and his
book's called found naked and dead he nicknamed the murderer as Big John and he described him as a respectable man in
his 40s with a wife and several children uh that had suffered a grim childhood in
Scotland characterized by an extreme Puritan puritanism and frequent beatings uh at the hands of his parents while
this big John was serving in World War II developed a habit of using prostitutes and would often turn to
violence when he drank and vet his feelings of self-loathing beating up the prostitutes right this happens a lot of
time uh with Catholics as well and after he got out of the war he later joined the police force and eventually he was
turned down hold on let me just say the self-loathing part of being a Catholic okay so thank you you're not the kill
part you're a Catholic you can speak you can speak for yourself speak for own experiences so after he gets out of the
war this this this standup citizen citizen who's beating up prostitutes decides that he's going to join the
police force uh eventually he is turned down for a promotion he's seeking the rank of detective he's turned down and
at this point he starts drinking again and he turns to the bottle and eventually he quits working for the
police eventually John he finds work as a security guard and he worked at the herin TA trading estate where the bodies
were believed to have been stored for some time now remember we talked about this this paint Spraying Company it was
a part of this here in estate and he worked as a security guard there so I think this is so he's a failed cop works
out as a security guard yeah it but but both uh for day Johnny and uh the author
McConnell they did refuse to reveal Big John's true identity for the sake that they claimed that the Killer's living
relatives Who Remain oblivious to his Crimes of the you know he's a suspected killer and and they they left they
didn't want the the family to to well yeah well and logically victims right and logically this makes sense I mean
there's all this heat gets turned up on this guy he's had um some failures in his life he has a lot of self-loathing
and as they think they're getting closer to you know capturing this guy and identifying him
possibly not so much to save himself but possibly to save his family his kids and
everything like that well I'll just kill myself if I kill myself chances are well
one I won't be killing anymore so that could be part of the Rel religious uh background into him where he is uh
remorseful um because of the drinking maybe he feels like because of the drinking and because of uh my childhood
and everything I can't stop this I've become some kind of monster and so to rid the world of me being a problem and
then to take away the burden on my family I'll commit suicide so I think logically it it all lines up it does all
line up and I think those are all factors as well plus the thing is it looked to this guy if this is the right
guy it looks to me like they were zeroing in on him pretty well and that he was going to be caught and again if
if he has connections with police officers he could still have uh personal relationships with them possibly
drinking buddies that are police officers so he's hearing more first firsthand information um this seems like the clear
path I mean like you said is they go by the name Big John or whatever so no real
name there my thought initially when reading all this stuff and looking into this case was there's a lot of
connections as far as the the sex scene and I'm going to call it the sex scene or the sex industry because it's not not
just prostitutions but possibly uh sex movies and things of that nature but there's a connection between that and
people of power in London and so there was a lot of uh rich men and powerful men using the services of the
prostitutes then leading for the the um opportunity that they could blackmail the people of power and so I always
assumed not always but the last week of looking into this case was that I would be looking at somebody that was actually
not connected to the prostitutes at all somebody similar to this big John Guy where he's possibly not using the
prostitutes but that he is hired by the higher ups to hey take care of these problems these girls are these girls are
trying to Blackmail us or maybe something got out of hand or they didn't pay them again we're going to go to the
to the press and and so they're hiring somebody that's taking care of all these problems yeah and and possibly with the
higher ups the rich and Powerful having connections with the police maybe that's
why they never solved it because it did just stop because they stopped hiring them but also maybe the rich and
Powerful took proper measures to stop doing this foolish the foolish behavior of like going above and beyond what you
know just uh the sex act you know I'll pay you for sex and and you be on your way and so to me there's something still
there uh I'd have to read these guys books to dive into that their Theory more uh it just sounds very logical
where they're coming from and again it's not just one author looking into this this is another author diving into it
more and one of those authors being the captain of the murder Squad at the time and now like you mentioned there was a
pretty big sex scandal going on in London at the time and it did have some ties to this case but when I looked at
when I looked at this and this is the only reason why we didn't discuss it more than what we will now was I didn't
see ties to every every victim well I mean you the tie would be the sex industry right right I I get that but I
I only saw one instance where somebody was reporting things or was willing to testify against somebody in court um you
know these other people could have had these other victims could have had some I to to the samex Scandal I think what
I'm seeing here though is I'm going to go with the with the lead investigators opinion of of that at the time for day
Johnny and exactly and and what we were pointing out here was all the extra steps and precautions and all the extra
effort that the police put into this search while it at the end it didn't it didn't bring the killer forward it
didn't bring the killer to Justice however the the guy in charge firmly believes that their
tactics eventually leaded to led to their guy yeah and and the the Justice here was him taking his own life so if
you'd like to dive into this case more you're going to hear about this uh big-time scandal in London called the
perfumo affair and if you can just Google it go down a couple different rabbit holes it's also on the Wikipedia
page if you look for the London nude murders or if you look up Jack the stripper dive into the pumo affair if
you like we could have spent a whole hour or two talking just about that and not got to any of these victims or sus
other suspects uh for this case and I think yeah there but there's definitely when you're going down the rabbit hole
there's definitely stuff that you run into dead ends so yeah and and I think that they're trying to make it bigger
than what it even was at the time and I think that you know hearing our opinion I think that this guy has uh there's
more ties to him to this case than what you will find in the the affair case recommended reading for this week
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We have all heard of Jack the Ripper, there is probably no more famous unsolved case invovling a serial killer. But nearly 70 years after Scotland Yard searched for the Ripper police had one of the largest manhunts in London's history. The search for the killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. This Jack was killing prostitutes and leaving their naked bodies in the River Thames and in the cities alleyways. This Jack did not taunt the police by writing letters and laughing at them on paper, no he simply gave them another body. Tonight we take the flying garage ship to England and review this strange cold case.

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Brief Summary

The episode examines the London nude murders, focusing on the investigation and suspects like Kenneth Archal and Big John.

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The London Nude Murders. Exploring the chilling case of Jack the Stripper and his unknown victims.
Hannah Tailord's Tragic Story. The first victim of the London nude murders was found in a shocking state.
The Killer's Control. The killer exhibits a chilling level of control over his actions, suggesting a calculated approach.
Police Strategies Emerge. Police begin strategizing to catch the killer, increasing patrols and setting traps.
Public Appeal for Information. Scotland Yard makes a public appeal for prostitutes to come forward, promising secrecy.

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How many total victims?

Question about the victim count in the London nude murders case.

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