Listener Tales 89 | Morbid | Podcast | Forensic Files

hey weirdos I'm Alina I'm Ash and this is [Music] morbid and it's listener Tales which
means that it's brought to you by you for you from you and all about you baby whoa I don't know I don't know
I don't know shrug large shrug I don't know shrug shrug shruggy shrug we love a listener Tales moment you know this we
know this everybody knows everybody knows this listener Tales five [ __ ] ever it always feels like we have not
done a listener Tales episode in 46 years I know oh every time it's so weird yeah and it's like nah it's only been a
couple weeks few weeks couple weeks few weeks yeah like a few yeah cuz a few is like three or more right you're like in
case you didn't know yeah so it really hasn't been that long but every time I'm like we haven't done this in 3 years
isn't that weird it is weird time I think that's the only thing I've said in response to I'm
sorry I'm just like how weird is it though she was just like picking at her nails being like that's so weird but no
I was listening that was just my genuine response I was like I did I did have a little bit of um pizza sauce under my
nail which is really gross you did not need to share but you did yeah I'm that we are appreciative
and also horrified also I just ate pizza for lunch like that's not old yeah like
last night she just got pizza for lunch it's right there I can still see it it's
not all they SAR no I wash my hands prob I know I actually did wash my hands damn
that's even worse I know Yik didn't do a good job well guys more less about me more about you less about my hygiene
more about your Tails I'm going to kick you I am I'm going to kick you in the shin would you like to go first uh sure
I'll go first why don't I start this out with a bang oh uh listen or tail the time my baby sat for a cold-blooded
killer that'll do it that will do it let's see oh we have a ptif hi Ash and Elena this is Al
which is my real name use it all you want Ali Aly Ali Aly Aly Aly Aly Aly just makes me think of James Kennedy
going Ali Bal there you go and this is a listener tale for you good it's a listener Tale
episode there you go like most things in my life I'm going into this email with no preparations beforehand so I
apologize I'm kind of just typing things up as they come to me but I'll try to keep it as straightforward as I can
first of all can I just say that I love you ladies you can because I love you too Ally I also love you too Ali B I'm
just going to Fan girl for a minute if you don't mind to be honest I've never been much of a podcast person but I came
across morbid when I was on maternity leave at the beginning of last year I had a baby girl on December 28th of 2021
she shares your birthday Elena no big deal no big deal she's a Cappy we love it real talk we named her Fiona I love
that name and that was also on your list that was on my list I love that name that's a like really that's weird yeah
she was actually born one day after my own birthday oh my gosh we're all Cappies together so you and I almost
share a birthday no big deal no big deal Capricorn's forever hell yeah my God imagine being a leader on your birthday
though I hope you weren't if you were what if she was in labor on her birthday that's not a great birthday but like
you're getting like a baby out of it that's the greatest part that's good yeah you know you got a birthday present
after your birthday there you go look at it that way anyway well I'm maternity Le
I spent the first month or so of sleepless nights binging a lot of Television eventually I started to go a
little stir crazy sitting on the couch all the time and decided to try to find a podcast I could carry around with me
as I did house George took the baby on walks Etc I had just finished rewatching a ton of old X Files episodes love that
so much my favorite television show in all of history ever and was still feeling that spooky Vibe I had never
heard of morbid or you guys tragic I know so when I searched True Crime podcasts and so morbid pop up I randomly
clicked on a recent episode where is Brandon Swanson oh that's really weird why do these things happen I was
just looking through our suggested cases yeah to like just kind of like compile a
few of what you guys want to hear and I just opened an email where someone said they just listened to the Brandon
Swanson episode that's weird and that they wanted like a different one cover and I was like whoo that was a random
episode and then you just mentioned it again like what a random [ __ ] episode also I was looking for cases last
weekend and I was just like reading a bunch of different like um countdown things online and Brandon Swanson was
one of the ones featured what's going on with that like that's weird of all the cases we've done I mean we've done
almost how many episodes we're in 500 and something at this point I don't we're close to 600 yeah that many
episodes and you mention the one episode I just opened a random suggestion that also mentioned that episode that's
bizarre sorry that's weird sorry I hope something comes out of that I don't know
maybe it will very strange stranger things have happened it's true so well you clicked on where is Brandon Swanson
and you never looked back so that's amazing and now I just hang out with you all week every week and because my
daughter was the equivalent of a sack of beans back then the sack of beans time goes by really fast a she couldn't
understand a word either of you were saying I was free to listen to as many tales of ghosts and decapitations and
murdering [ __ ] as I wanted without fear of traumatizing her my daughter had a lot of issues eating and sleeping
during her first few months we later found out she had some undiagnosed food allergies a so postpartum was rough on
all of us your podcast became a space for me to just escape a little bit thank you so much for hanging out with me then
and now you bet I love that okay so my taale kind of forgot that's why I started this whole thing here we go I'm
going to change the names of the people involved because you can actually look up the case I'm going to talk about and
I want to maintain a little privacy for one person in particular I'll put a footnote at the end with the real names
in case you two want to look it up this is the story about how I babysat for a coldblooded killer when I was in Middle
School a family moved into the house next door to ours a married couple and their young son I'll call the married
couple John and Tracy Carter and I'll call their son Ben Tracy was actually a radio personality at the time and was
fairly well known in the area John was incredibly outgoing Charming guy I don't remember what he did for a living it's
not important they were actually kind of an Odd Couple at least from an outsider's perspective
we lived on a very small and isolated Street seven houses with a called a sack at the end our little Street had a lot
of block parties at the time so everyone knew each other very well John and Tracy
were at a lot of these GE togethers to be fair I was about 13 during this time so I was more interested in teenage girl
drama than anything adults were ever talking about I do remember Tracy was pretty being pretty reserved a little
standoffish maybe John on the other hand was always boy cracking jokes and talking to anyone and
everyone with ease now that I'm an adult myself I recognize that I am the Tracy in this situation I hate mingling and
forcing Small Talk At block parties it's literally the worst set a capricorn yeah
I was going to say that's your Capricorn in there said like a true Cappy John and
Tracy's son Ben was about 4ish years old when we first met the Carters he was the
most adorable kid with a mop of blonde hair and a whip smart personality oh a couple years passed and the Carters had
become friends with my parents to be more specific John Carter had become friends with my parents Tracy was a rare
sighting in the neighborhood at that point she worked a lot and also attended various functions and events outside of
her job I want to say Jon was unemployed for stretches of time but I could be making that up like I said my memory of
what he did for a living is hazy in any case Jon would come over to sit on the back deck and chitchat while Ben showed
off a new toy or ran around in the backyard eventually in the summer of 2002 I started Babys sitting for John
and Tracy I would watch Ben a handful of nights a month it was an easy gig because Ben was an easy kid I would see
and speak with Tracy occasionally mostly business dinner's in the fridge Ben's bedtime is this could you feed the
hamster kind of stuff mostly it was John that would greet me when I arrive ask questions about how school was going and
walk me the 10 steps home at the end of the night I always felt very comfortable
around JN he was very a very harmless fatherly Vibe he wasn't scary at all false untrue in correct oh ooh One Night
in early 2003 I was babysitting Ben we had fallen into a routine we were in the middle of looking through his dinosaur
trading cards when Jon came home early he seemed a little off I guess kind of hurried and frazzled like he was
surprised to find himself at home as well my 15-year-old self didn't make much of it but I remembered I was
supposed to be there a couple more hours he didn't say much which was unusual and
he didn't walk me home before I left he asked if I could babysit the next night it was a school night and I had
something going on a test to study for a project I had to finish I can't remember
so I said I couldn't that was the end of our conversation and the last conversation I ever had with him it was
also the last time I ever stepped foot into that house oh that's chilling the next night I was at home with my family
it was about sevenish I remembered American Idol was on that night at some point our dog started barking
hysterically our dog was a maltes terrier named Dart and his piercing squawk was not my favorite sound so I
was yelling at him shut up sorry Dart I was also not studying or working on a project sorry John but actually not
because [ __ ] you for what's about to happen no no one bothered to investigate why Dart was barking because like most
dogs He barked at an uous [ __ ] all the time about an hour later American Idol was coming to an end and dart was
barking again GH however when I glanced out the front windows I saw a massive amount of flashing lights outside there
were police cars and emergency vehicles packing the street and parking in the grass this was not common on our street
so a lot of gawking ensued by the surrounding neighbors a police officer knocked on our door and asked if we had
seen or heard anything unusual that evening we had not we later learned that JN had shot Tracy in their master
bedroom multiple times while Ben sat at the table downstairs wearing headphones and playing video games oh my God
according to rumors we heard later Ben heard the shots and asked what had happened John told him they had dropped
something upstairs he told Ben that Tracy was going to stay home to clean up the mess while he and Ben visited
relatives John took Ben to his relatives left and called the police to turn himself in not a super thrilling end to
the whole thing but I'm glad he didn't try to flee with Ben or do something else horrible here's the thing whenever
I think about that story I can't help zooming in on the fact that I was alone in that house with that man he asked me
to babysit Ben the night of the murder and I'm always torn on what could that could have meant for his story would I
have been there when he killed Tracy would he have asked if Ben could stay at our house so he wasn't home during the
event would he have not killed Tracy because I was there watching Ben or did he honestly just think he needed a
babysitter and this whole thing transpired after that conversation I don't blame you for having so many
[ __ ] questions what a horrible yeah you did I hope you have no guilt over this because that's a mind you were a
15-year-old kid and you couldn't babysit like that's but holy [ __ ] I don't blame
you for thinking through every single outcome that could have happened that's crazy I also wonder if Dart heard those
gunshots because according to the loose timeline they put together JN would have
shot Tracy near the time Dart started going off like an ill tuned bugle dogs know man yeah they do it breaks my heart
that Ben was home when his mother was taken from him I'm so glad he didn't witness The Killing and I'm so glad it
didn't turn into some crazier murder the whole family than Comm suicide type of thing I was so worried for that where
this was going to I was too I changed their names in the story for Ben's sake he's out there somewhere trying to live
his life after losing both of his parents to this horrible tragedy he'd be in his mid 20s by now which is Bonkers
to me I don't know why Jon killed Tracy articles about the case say that the two
had marital problems and that John was struggling with uh suicidal ideation and mental illness either way he's still a
murdering [ __ ] and I'm not going to try and throw logic at any of his actions so that's the story of how I Babys sat
for a coldblooded killer as you can imagine I didn't take a lot of babysitting gigs after that my parents
still live in the house I grew up in and the Carter's house has gained a reputation for being cursed to add to
the weirdness about a month after Tracy's murder an older woman showed up on our street she was standing in the
road staring up at the Carter's house I had just gotten home from school and was
taking dart out to pee the woman called out to me and asked if I knew the woman who had been killed I figured she was
just a nosy bra and told her that yes I knew Tracy she told me she was gathering
flowers from Tracy's yard to add to the memorial wreath her church group was making it was February and there were
definitely no flowers growing at the time so okay she stared quietly at me and dart for an uncomfortable amount of
time before asking if I wanted to pray with her I told her no thank you and she said in a dead pan voice she said you
wouldn't want to bye what the [ __ ] and she says bye I dragged dart back inside and watched she
wandered around our street for a few more minutes before getting in her car son's flowers and driving off and that
officially concludes the weird that is [ __ ] she said you wouldn't want to I'd be like get the [ __ ] out of here
yeah you got to go girl that's weird I hope you ladies have a spook alicious day and of course I hope you keep
keeping it weird but not so weird that you socialize all easy breezy at block parties who does that okay actually
plenty of people just not me not us either that was Ally I mean that was wild wild tale seriously and I truly
cannot believe that you have to think of the fact that you were babysitting at this house with that man alone I know
that he would walk you home that is just to like to have memories of him like at
block parties just shooting the [ __ ] coming to your house and sitting on your back deck like to know somebody that
intimately and to know what they did is so scary and especially to have seen him
the night before like such a different human and like for Ally to see the state that he was in the night before like
clearly something was way off I wonder what the hell was going on there like that's a lot yeah
jeez wow that was quite a tale Ally for sharing that with us and I'm glad that you're okay all right my next one is
listener Tale the ghost of very much alive me a growl broken mirrors Etc wo hello you fantastic weirdos my name is
not Ralph but that's the name we'll go with I also changed the names of everybody in this story for their
privacy it's nice to finally be sending this listener tale to my best friends but I must say for being my best friends
you sure never respond to my awesome commentary as I'm driving cleaning cooking Etc and you usually interrupt my
astute observations what's that about I'm so sorry I feel ter like every other listener I must say you two bring me so
much joy and entertainment the latter of which is not easy to do as I'm a psychologist in a prison hence the fake
name so I hear some wild [ __ ] on a daily basis I bet I'd love to regel you with
more stories but we haven't have the we haven't the time right now I'm not going
to apologize for the length nor encourage you to edit as you see fit because you've made it abundantly clear
time and time again you will do no such thing and apologies are not needed hell no never and let's be real this story is
perfection just the way it is however I will say there are a lot of commas in here as I am not really sure how to use
commas versus semicolons really who understands grammar here's a here's a little little secret no one no one I
thought you were going to like really like drop some hot grammar news on us no one understands grammar the only thing
that I remember about a semicolon is a use it if you're going to list that's the only thing I remember but other than
that it I'm just really glad that I have an editor yeah there you go there's that
I put a lot of commas everywhere whenever I write something I also love the confidence here like the the you
know that they feel like they're like this is perfection so so don't change it and I you like I know you won't and
that's okay is perfection good for you I love that I like that I am a man of science like a nerd who loves to H up
Journal rep repositories and go down the research rabbit hole with that said I have so much weird [ __ ] happened to me
over most of my life that I am here to say with certainty there might be ghosts I love this already I love the way this
person writes I have no idea what's going on out there oh same this story involved my boyfriend and I we will call
him Bob and two roommates who we will call Karen and Frank Bob and I moved into Karen and Frank's 100 plusy old
home in a semi-rough neighborhood of a large city rough as in I heard gunshots all the time and some literal drug users
well under the influence walked into our yard passed a fence picked apples off a
tree more than once I mean I'm glad that's all they did I mean yeah let there be
apples at the time I worked in an inpatient Psychiatry unit at the safety net hospital for the metro area
basically I worked with the most mentally ill patients possible like other hospitals could not handle them so
they sent the patients to us wow one patient painted their children purple not sure why but she did oh man that's
sad that's really sad I know and as I said I currently work in a prison so I have seen enough [ __ ] literally to know
what is and is not Bonkers and my haunted ghosty house was Bonkers side notee while walking through the
partially lit Supply Closet on an overnight shift at the hospital I felt a full hand fingers and all press up
against my upper back and shoulder area as if to sing signal hey wait my first thought was what the [ __ ] is a patient
doing in here I'm not in the mood it's 4:00 a.m. I'm tired but I turn around and no one was there I'm pretty sure
humans cannot fly but I flew out of that closet and never went back in during a shift again I believe you oh my God and
never went back in during a night shift I don't know why he's like I quit I don't work there anymore back to the
house in the Attic there was this wooden box that was affixed randomly to the floor at the place where the floor and
uh steeped ceiling met I bet there's a much better way to describe that or some architectural term but the latter
probably would not help many it opened on the front as if it were to be a little Playhouse some might say a
dollhous what was inside this random box you ask a [ __ ] doll why why did the previous owner a single man leave
nothing in the entire house except a doll in the Attic box from hell my question exactly no one knows oh no also
in the Attic a small portion was walled off with the door inside the room/ coffin were claw marks deep claw marks
near the door jam again not okay why not sure maybe they were dog claw marks as some suggested but if there was a dog
locked in the Attic in that small room that's extra [ __ ] up okay thank you I was like even someone suggest you're
like that makes it worse what do you mean is a dog just locked in a room in a addict that's also bad yeah it's so hot
in addicts I hate this I hate it I wondered if in the early 1900s there could have been a mentally ill family
member locked up there hidden away from the world because at the time it was unfortunately a thing that's the thing
that I was thinking of to be honest makes you think of um it's very much a thing American Horror Story yeah it's
very much a thing oh that's so sad that they would like you'll find those kind of rooms in a lot of old houses and
those that was what the purpose was a lot of the time I did not that it's really sad oh that's horrific there was
a what which one which one one of those ghost shows was it the Atlantic Paranormal Society I think it is um they
Ghost Hunters yeah Ghost Hunters I love that show that's a great show um and those guys are awesome and I love that
they're from Rhode Island I'm like New England let's go uh but they had a couple of episodes where they went into
these old houses and they found rooms like that and they like were talking and they would find like scratch marks and
[ __ ] the [ __ ] yeah I remember it like vividly cuz I immediately started looking it up oh my God that makes my
heart very sad I know it's horrible yeah yeah well every time I was up there I felt like I was being watched Karen's
friend was known to be a psychic and one day she came over and she felt the presence of a man and overalls fun fact
as she walked up these as she walked up the stairs to the attic I love that that's a fun fact like
fun fact overall well I just love like imagine being like so in tune with the other side that you're like I sense a
man and you're like oh you can sense that it's a man and you're like he's wearing overalls like it's just like how
do you feel the overalls like how was that part of the sensation I love that like do you feel it or do you see it
yeah like do you I hope she feels the overalls it does say she felt the presence of a man in overalls exactly
she's feeling the overalls maybe she feels the rough denim what her overalls feel overalls feel like rough yeah
scratchy rustic rustic is rustic a feeling yeah yeah sure why not you feel rustic right sometimes I don't know the
overalls made me laugh now strangely when I felt like I was being watched I always joked it was a man well not a
funny joke after the psychic said that but In fairness it's a 50/50 chance well in the US it's more like a 4951 chance
favoring women yeah so close one day Bob was playing piano on the main level it's
a large open space a living room to his right the dining room behind him and windows along the entire wall uh Through
the Windows we could see a neighbor's house no one else was home and it was mid-afternoon so not a scary time of day
wrong he heard a crystal clear here aloud wait for it growl right next to his ear we don't have a dog nor a lion
nor a cougar nor anything else that could make that sound I was going to ask I love that you were like we don't have
a dog and before you ask we also don't have a lion and nope don't even we don't have a cougar but do you have a panther
you didn't answer that no nothing else that could make that sound he looked outside to see if there was a dog near
the window despite hearing it directly next to his ear and he saw nothing the windows were also not open feels like a
d yeah that's a Damon speaking of piano sometime later my sister slept over and in the middle of the night she heard the
piano playing downstairs but everyone was asleep upstairs who was playing the piano crying distressed face I love how
this is written that's like hell house see the little that movie [ __ ] me up for like
two weeks I'll Forever sing the Praises of Hell House LLC as you should and never will I stop it's a great movie
it's great and it's horrifying it's scary watch it spooky season is upon us everybody it's scared Drew too yeah and
he thinks movies like that are kind of dumb so John got vertigo from all the movement but which is also scary vertigo
is a scary thing to deal with it made him sick that's how scary it was Wo well a few weeks or even months later Bob and
I were home alone watching TV one night from the living room no one can see the dining room as the two are attached and
and off the wait no I said no one can see the dining room but one can see the dining room one can you're like it's
attached but no one can see it it's kind of like a figment of your imagination it's kind of a thing we don't let anyone
see the dining room no it's okay you can see the dining room as the two are attached and off the dining room is a
large Archway into the office this would be to the right of the piano for my position on the couch I could not see
the office as Bob could as we innocently watched TV he suddenly jolted his body back into the couch while he gasped and
looked directly at the archway with wide unblinking eyes remember we live in a roughish neighborhood so I immediately
thought that somebody came in one of the windows and I needed to get a knife and
stab stab stab away but you cannot knife a ghost you can though Ash says you can
catch one in a jar have I said that I probably have said some [ __ ] like that wait when was I going to catch a ghost
in a jar I'm positive you said that oh I'm positive too there was only there was minimal doubt when did I want to
catch a jar a ghost I love it he's like you can't knife a ghost but Ash did say you can catch one of the I'm trying to
think about when I wanted to do that I'm sure it was one of our spooky episodes you were like did you know fun fact or
you were probably like I wonder yeah you probably stated it as fact I just bought
a bun a bunch of mason jars the other day so maybe you're think CU there are um isn't there like a
place where you can buy a ghost or adopt a ghost in like London or something it's
like in Europe that's really like Gam I think there's like a place where you can
I'm going to look it up because every I'm sure people over there are like you dumbass this is what it's called um how
do you like pay for that hold [Music] on yeah here they are it's the uh let's see Matlock ghost Emporium yeah what
does a Ghost cost you let's let's look at a boat because I think it's supposed to be that like each ghost is has like a
real ghost oh my God they're so cute I want them don't I want them don't I think we have
one I don't know if they're the same that's what these are you too I don't know if they're those also is that what
the [ __ ] is happening in this room nah those have been a while we got those while ago yeah and we've been haunted
for a while and one time the TV fell on my head Elena you never told is that what
that is I think I wrote I read the uh thing in this person Elena art I'm going to call your
mom I'm going to call her are you joking me I is there one behind me I don't [ __ ] with that I don't Maybe
I'm Wrong maybe that's not what it is oh backtrack now you allowed Spirits into this room
that we don't even know look at this little mechanical Maiden one I like that no no this is everything I stand against
inviting unknown Spirits into your space no no wonder the sage goes out around you you Willow it yeah I think it's I I
I'm pretty sure it's like a a thing you know well Elena just informed me that you can buy ghosts and
that we actually might have some in this room so that's good really excited about
that can you hear how thrilled I am in my voice you son of a [ __ ] these might just be a different one how are we to
know I don't know mine's cute though I like him I'm not saying I dislike them I like them you're a friend oh God I'm
going to Sage this place after this anyway uh let me find my place again now that
I've been demonically possessed so I said one time that you can catch a a ghost in a jar what he
actually saw was not an intruder thankfully but the upper half of a man floating across the
archway oh yeah just that okay if he had legs Bob would have been able to see them I will never forget the fear in his
eyes that night I should also note he was super uber Ultra adamant ghosts did not exist prior to moving into that
house to make matters was even more [ __ ] up on two other occasions Karen and Frank separately saw the same thing
the upper half of a man float past the same Archway this might be messed up to say but you two especially Elena will
get it I was pissed I was the only one who did not see anything yes I would be so I would be upset too a growling
diamond and a [ __ ] legless floating ghost time to Yeet right wrong I was working nearly full-time and I was in
grad school so I likely did not have the will to care so we stayed like [ __ ] it
sometime later Bob who's getting the brunt of this ghostly [ __ ] likely because they were pissed that he did not
believe they were real awoke in the middle of the night to see me standing in the window rocking back and forth he
was confused why the [ __ ] I was doing that creepy weirdness but it wasn't me it wasn't me it wasn't me he looked over
and I was laying in bed next to him sound asleep he then panicked thinking I was dead and he was seeing my ghost so
he slapped my back and I groaned and rolled over I'm alive when he looked to the window my question
mark ghost was gone my to be fair this could have been a hypnopompic hallucination which is
blurring of Dreams in reality or straight up hallucination in the weird time of waking but still being a bit
asleep they're not uncommon but not as common as hypn hypnogogic hallucinations I was just going to ask if he meant
hypnogogic gogic I think it's hypnogogic hypnogogic I don't remember how you say it but it's
like GG instead of Po o p you know yes I was GNA ask if that's what you meant but I
think he must be talking about something different oh well he says those occur when you're falling asleep think hypn go
yeah gick or J going to bed you're welcome is this the last creepy story nope good one drunk night a bunch of
friends were over and we were playing games in the living room upstairs the friend's children were sleeping as we
innocently play games laugh and have some of this world fun some ghost [ __ ] was like nah no more fun I assume this
is what they said because we heard a very loud shatter upstairs as there were literal children up there we all ran up
up the stairs to check on them their door was closed and upon opening it they were undisturbed odd because that
shatter was very loud though children can sleep through a tornado lucky yeah it's true down the hall in another room
was a shattered mirror haters be like oh it's it just fell off the wall but guess
what it [ __ ] did not just fall off the wall I love haters be like that I love it [ __ ] did not the mirror was
hanging by a wire on a screw the screw was unmoved nor was it slanted downward so the mirror did not and could not
slide off the wire was also unbroken so the mirror needed to be lifted off the screw it's [ __ ] up that [ __ ] ghost
lifted the mirror off the screw and threw it on the floor that's [ __ ] Karen put a new mirror in the same place
a full body mirror which was leaned up against the wall what happened to that mirror I'm glad you asked it too broke
mirr days later but did it simply slide down the wall and break when landing on its back nope it fell forward and
shattered so there's no way it slid down the wall now if a mirror is leaning against a wall it takes effort slforce
to flip it forward so that twatty ghost clearly had a problem with mirrors as I type this I feel bad because what if the
ghost has body image issues I was thinking that too if you're listening ghost I'm sorry I love you so much I'm
sorry I'm sorry finally One Last Story Karen was home alone in the upstairs bathroom alone which alone when she
heard footsteps slowly come up the stairs while home alone alone the house is over a hundred years old so you can
hear someone come up those stairs they creaked like my knees after a mid-afternoon nap JK I can't nap I can't
either I'm not so great at napping anymore either once it ascended that final stair she heard footsteps slowly
come down the hall and stopped directly outside the bathroom door no noise no breath no voice just silent pants
pooping Panic pants pooping panic she finally gathered the badass [ __ ] courage to open the door and no one was
there did she then promptly burn that [ __ ] to the ground nope she is tough and no ghost will ever scare her out Bob
and I finally moved out due to ghost Panic question mark nope to was simply time for a new home due to other
circumstances not ghostly related but don't worry there is some other weirdness occurring in our new home as
well like hearing whispers When we dropped in with Alexa twice or loud bangs on the wall with absolutely no
apparent cause like loud ass bangs I thought a tree branch hit the house it has happened at least three times now
another time I was in my happy place vacuuming and suddenly I felt something/ someone forcibly stop my vacuum as I as
I was minding my own GD business it was as if I backed the vacuum into a wall real unnerving I hope you enjoyed this
banana story which actually was quite long I have to say or I have a lot to say I kept my prison potty mouth at Bay
kudos to me I also I also kudos to me you're hilarious I also saw ghost Jesus in the middle of the woods overlooking a
lake from a small hill my sober friend saw it/ him too so no to the Skeptics out there I did not see things because I
was drunk how many times have you hallucinated due to alcohol don't bother answering I know the answer zero times
P.S imagination is an act of process so when people say it was just your imagination that's crap how many times
have you imagined a ghost if that I'm just cry I love how you are just like roasting everyone it's awesome if that
was the power of if that was the power of my imagination I would be imagining Zack
Efron all the time P.S again I cannot stop myself I wonder if I'm more attuned to the other worldly things because I'm
a psychologist and you know listen pretty well you you can throw some empathy in there too I sweat being
gay I sweat being gay I think it's supposed to say I swear I swear being gay plays a role
also it makes me less threatening to when and men and and women to men and women dead to Alive women do not need to
worry I will creep on them or worse and men don't have to worry about me getting
into some Neanderthal dick swinging contest that sounds like they said that it sounds like fun
that bit sounds like fun [ __ ] fighting over a female mate to bop over the head and drag to a cave note I do
not believe all straight men are like that I should be done now P.S again I'm the worst on my drive home I noticed on
a small on a small Silver Box on the edge of a bridge overhanging the highway morbid spray painted and green letters
my immediate thought my soon Tobe Axe Murderer knows I take this highway and knows I listen to morbid they are
sending me a message I saw that message like a year ago still here and kicking I
cannot go I cannot go on I am certain anyone who knows me and is listening knows this is my tale there is literally
no one like me Whispers gay prison psychologist who worked in an impatient psych and has a
ghost tailor too keep it weird but not so weird that you live in a house with a doll in an attic hellbox claw marks a
torso ghost a growl the ghost of when you are actually alive broken mirrors and creepy footsteps by
I am literally obsessed with you oh my God this is absolutely the best that was everything that was really funny I love
you so much Ralph Ralph you rule Ralph forever let's be friends Ralph we already are truly we already are we need
to start answering Ralph's mid commentary I realized by the way that these are from the York um ghost
merchants and they're like a very renowned Merchant of ghosts they do not specifically say that there
are ghosts trapped in there it's heavily implied but it's not said I can't even express my overwhelming urge to throw my
Stanley at you just now they're they're just like specifically they're like a very renowned uh place to get ghosts
this one says listen her tail this is a good one I swear sorry I just boned to my Standley on my computer instead of
throwing it across the room I immediately got attached to this one so I'm glad I'm old and I don't know if
this if I did this correctly but here's my listener tale I thought you were still talking I mean me too me too they
wanted Ghost Whisper and I gave Courage the coodly dog it's about my ex who was dating me when uh but was involved with
four other people at the same time except they were dead so wow wow all right both of us just go Wow Wow Let's
go so listener tale they wanted go Swiss ER but got Courage the Cowardly Dog instead that show used to scare the [ __ ]
out of me when I was little yeah Ghost Whisper or courage dog actually I used to love Ghost Whisper oh damn used to be
on at like 6 o' after all my other programs I never watched it that's a Jennifer Love hu right y it is yeah it's
a girl it it was like um it was like a drama cuz there was always like a sad reason why they couldn't cross over oh
yeah of course there's one specific episode that I will never forget where this guy died it was like a football
player and he died because like another football player collided in just the right spot of his chest make his heart
go poof and it's called a certain thing and it's real and it's one of my biggest
fears yeah I mean don't play football I mean you never have to tell that even when I played in high school on the
Powderpuff thing I just walked the sidelines really no one wanted me to be there it's fine well this says hi you
ghoulish gals I am kayn you can wholeheartedly use my name because anyone who knows me knows that I am a
creepy freak and I more than okay with that I love your Vibe that's great I wanted to start off with you with you
two are amaz insanely amazing and what you do not only brightens many people's days but opens a lot of hearts and eyes
to horrible and morbid cases that need to be spoken of more thank you thanks I would spend more time loving on you but
sadly I have some traa and that stops me from being all mushy gushy and instead I
show my love by being a total smartass with sarcastic comments are you from New England I was going to say that's great
I spend my days is listening to you I'm a mail carrier so all I do is hand out bills and gruesome facts all day long
you're welcome folks who have come in contact with me I would listen to you guys when I am home but my husband says
I watch and listen to too many quote how to kill your husband and get away with it podcasts and shows I like to keep him
on his toes also I frequently say fresh airs for dead people because it makes it
a good reason as to why my hermit ass stays inside every chance I can but I digress anywh who this tale is about how
I dated as you how I dated an as Ju of a human who brought more people into our relationship than just us and all of
them were dead yep hold on to all your cheeks it gets creepy chaotic and it's just an allaround Horror Story from
beginning to end okay I will state that I am very very in touch with the spiritual side since I was young I was
able to speak to and see people who are not alive anymore I also knew things about people without realizing I should
not I told my uncle that his girlfriend was going to try and kill him I was five
and yes she in fact did try to kill him so he thought maybe that was a good time
to call it quits probably I guess having a [ __ ] picker having a [ __ ] picker runs
in our family or something I told my mom things about her her past I shouldn't have never known and I told my dad about
the woman who was going to die by Suicide below his apartment and she did as well 5 days after I left for
Christmas break so yeah damn the thing is the older I got the more I cut myself off from it because I am a total and
utter wuss you're not a wuss that's just like very over whelming and very intense
like I don't even like talking to people who are alive why would I want to socialize with dead ones you
know the thing is when I drink there is no cutting it off and that is a huge part of this story oh that makes sense
right cuz you're just like uninhibited yeah so I started dating this dumpster fire of a man when my life was at an
all-time low because that's what you do when you have abandonment issues parent issues surprise I have mommy and daddy
issues so you can call me an all-around winner because I got the two for one deal on shitty sperm and egg donor girl
I got the same one except my dad's half all right I'm so sorry about those deals
uh but but and you know what you are a winner because that was not your fault that you got dealt some [ __ ] cards you
just had to be here yeah you're the winner here okay winner winner chicken [ __ ] dinner we will call this
guy X it's funny because it goes off of his name and he's my ex ha yeah LOLOL we saw each other twice before he
asked me to move states away with him of course because I do everything I shouldn't I have to do it just to make
sure I shouldn't I told you drama so I gather a suitcase of my things and move across states with this
guy things seemed off from the very beginning he was in the military and lived off base the day we got to his
house he left to go in the field the house was nice but I just couldn't shake the feeling of it having a really dark
presence to it at night lights would go on and off the TV would blare at 3:00 almost every single night he he had this
huge mirror that sat across from the bed and it gave me the chills every time I looked at it I hated being alone there
not supposed to have a mirror at the foot of your bed oh yeah you always tell me that actually there's a mirror at the
foot of your bed isn't there it's off to the side it's still at the foot of your
bed you should actually move that why what is the the whole it's like a whole portal but isn't it a portal no matter
where it is in the room if it's there's some reason why if it's at the end it's like I don't know if it's like a fun
thing or something like that I think it's funu more than a port spiritual too is it yeah all I know is I don't like it
I don't know where else to put it I mean it looks good where it is but I'm like I
don't know it looks good maybe that's why there's a a second youu [ __ ] maybe I've created a portal with my put it
back where it was before it looked fine there but that's also right to the side of the end of the bed way less close
though I don't know this this feels nitpicky of the of the spiritual realm they're like if I bet they would
be picky though I'm 5 cm to the right then it's okay but if I'm facing it laugh now look I don't know I won't be
laughing when you get dragged off to a weird portal in the middle of nowhere damn do you see I said I wouldn't be
laughing but but damn I be up the [ __ ] I didn't know that was supposed to happen
I don't know what happens I'll move it slightly to the side you should to make you feel better thanks I'll do that for
you you should put it like we can talk about your mirror later no let's talk about
know no I want where where should I put my mirror guys where do I put my [ __ ] mirror sh take Instagram
votes later yeah tell me send me DMS where do I put my mirror comment on this on this episode uh post yeah there you
go my dogs are speaking about it right now I think you should get rid of it and move treats there they're like I don't
know I like looking at [Laughter] myself so I hated being alone there but I also know he would be home soon so yay
he comes back home 3 days later and surprises me with a bottle of tequila I was like oh sir don't temp me with a
good time we started taking that bottle down like it was the last bottle of water we had and dying in the desert I
mean it's unhealthy but your girl could throw it back then now I just throw up I
got drunk and then I started to sense there was more to this apartment than just being dark he was he was dark he
had this horrible thing that was attached to him and I could feel it I could feel her that night I felt and saw
a gray thin woman watching us from the hallway a gray thin woman watching you from the hallway you say that sounds
like it follows I hate that that's exactly what that sounds I hate that watching us from the ceiling so first
watching mostly watching him mostly I my my like the would be up I'd be like you
get your eyes somewhere else [ __ ] I would say you could have him goodbye I'm leaving
TR she doesn't mean it no not no this man's just dark throw this man to the curb if it was Drew I
would oh I'd square up with old girl saying I'm like if this was me be like let's go [ __ ] I think like past like
shitty people oh yeah take them you can take my ex go right ahead take him into the shadow realm with you of all right
so yeah thin gray woman watching from the hallway watching from the ceiling watching him mostly but she knew I could
feel her around us why do you how do you know what she knows this the best visual
I can give is if the Grudge girl was an all black and white oh my God I hate it when you said the best visual that's
that's the worst visual actually I told him what I was feeling and that she had made her presence known to me and he
stopped and just stared at me I thought he thought I was crazy but instead he told me since he was a little boy he had
an attachment his family who practices santoria tried to do everything they could to protect him from it but this
succubus wouldn't let him go everyone go Google what a succubus is that's the ghost that foxy
read Googles it's a sex one she looks so serious at me she was like I'm correct right leave it in
oh man that's that kind of ghost that's that kind of ghost and now that I was there she was angrier than ever again
got to go you could have him I got to go we went to bed that night and I was awoken to death curdling screams in my
ears it was as if my brain was screaming whoa when I shot up out of bed he was sitting up just looking at me I asked
him X did you hear that nothing I asked again he just kept staring at me and didn't even blink once
I had chills all over my body I looked at him and realized it was as if he had turned a stone no movement I couldn't
even tell if he was breathing so I started shaking him pleading with him to wake up and acknowledge what the [ __ ]
just happened he never did he sat there for two hours and never moved plenty of time for you to book a plane ticket and
get the [ __ ] out of there get out of there I am not making this up I wish I was but that will live with me till I
die it was the first time I ever felt truly helpless and fearful of what the Paranormal world could do yeah I bet I
stayed there with him till he laid down and went back to his normal sleep I couldn't sleep I couldn't even put
together what the actual [ __ ] was happening did I dream this was I that drunk no it just got worse when we would
he would leave for the field I would be awoken to the same scream I hate the scream I hate a scream and one night
while I laid there I saw in that stupid hauntingly creepy but beautiful mirror a
shadow crossed behind me mind you the bed was against the wall there was nowhere for someone to cross behind me I
jumped out of bed and told whoever was there to leave they were not welcome I cried I straight up cried for hours
trying to turn on the TV never helped they would just turn it back off that would piss me off yeah I love the office
it's like what calms me I have to have the TV on at night I'd be really irritated if I was trying to get in my
cozy mood and they were like no silence it is that sounds like like the the wait
I'll let you read the rest of this cuz it sounds like um Poltergeist like says they would just turn it back off they
would blast the volume they would shake the bed shake the sofa every time he came back home he was different more
angry at me for things I wasn't allowed to use certain cups or plates the he told me that I what I could and couldn't
eat he told me how to wear my hair and how to dress it became a nightmare all around me I'm so sorry I know he'd leave
and though it sucked to be alone I almost felt like I had some time to breathe till the ghost steep back into
play and yes multiple the more sad I became the more I would drink I know I know I'm a healthy Co um I'm a healthy
copper zero out of 10 would recommend I think coer probably but sometimes you do
what you think you got to do while one night of drinking myself to sleep I got a text from Mr wasted space and he tells
me I need to be out the next day this that his Leader found out he was dating someone and living with them while he
was still married your girl your girl lost it after going on a full-blown hunt to find
his said wife I messaged her I told her I had no idea and that I was heartbroken
broken for her more than anyone after us girls banding together because that's what the [ __ ] you do good for you I kept
drinking that night because that's not what you do and I let every single wall down I started writing everything I felt
and everyone who came to me the succubus stayed back but let herself be known then an older woman came forward long
black hair and definitely not a fan of mine she told me she was his grandmother and did not approve of me being with him
oh another step Ste forward a soldier he was young and extremely protective over
me he told me I was safe but I needed to leave immediately and then another man mid-40s maybe and had drown drowned in a
lake nearby he told me he had two children and a wife not even 5 miles away from where I was my God I was
writing scribbles everywhere trying to coherently take in all their stories 10 pages of stuff definitely looked like a
doctor wrote it because it was my Loosey Goosey writing stage of half cursive and
half who knows what the [ __ ] it is these spirit came to me looking for the Ghost
Whisperer and I straight up gave them drunken Courage the Cowardly Dog not my best moment but definitely not my worst
the next day I gathered my things and left the hell house I will say while moving my things out I took every Fork
but one and also took the microwave plate the microwave plate that's [ __ ] genius that is amazing to take the
microwave plate as a power move I have never known the power moves of power moves like that is wow the microwave
play cuz that's going to hit that's going to and that's going to hit in a moment just like oh I wanted those ramen
noodles so bad moment the worst moment I'm not I'm not a petty person usually but I was horrifically hung over and
feeling a little spicy that day no good for you also the dick [ __ ] deserved it
and those Forks belonged to his wife to begin with so whatever [ __ ] that I left
my chicken scratch notes right on top of the kitchen counter that I took down the
night before and without skipping a beat he called me that night when he came back to the house he said what was his
name the soldier what was his name I told him it was John the man started to cry I mean could barely speak I soon
figured out a lot that night the succubus that had followed him around was due to him playing with a Ouija
board when he was very young he had become possessed his family members had cast spells of protection on him and it
seemed to help until his grandmother had passed away his grandmother was the older woman I spoke to that night when
she passed he said the succubus clung to him and never let go of him after that the soldier I spoke to was a guy he was
in the military with one day they had switched places on a Humvee and had sadly hit an IED the side my ex was
supposed to be on got hit the hardest and ended up with Jon losing his life that day ex always blamed himself with
that feeding at him it only ever fueled his succubus more he told me he never had dreams only nightmares and always
felt like his body his mind and body were at two different places at night he was happy to hear John was still there
and making sure everyone was safe that's all he ever did for X when they were serving together wow now the mid-40s man
he had no idea about didn't know him but did hear about an accidental drowning the year he moved there the wife and two
children were begging to help find him they did shortly after when his body was recovered 2 miles away from our house
with all that being said I did get my [ __ ] together and ended up marrying my best friend three years later we have
two beautiful children and I couldn't ask for a better husband and father oh that makes me really happy that's
incredible I sometimes wish I never had to go through that but man am I glad to be married to a Preacher's Son who never
once been possessed yay for me to add to add my three-year-old son is just like I am poor guy he tells me
about the man in our house he has woken me up to point at the wall and ask who's
that I debated on selling him on Etsy because you know he's homemade and you'll never get more money that
way and you'll get more money that way but he also started talking about my [Laughter]
grandmother I de selling him on Etsy because you know he's homemade that's incredible you'll get more money that
way but he also started talking about my grandmother a day after she passed he tells me how she sits on the sofa with
us and watches TV so I guess I'll just keep my little Ghostbusters thank you ladies and
congratulations on all you two have done and will continue to accomplish keep it
weird but don't keep it this weird take it away Ash keep it so weird but not so weird that you sell your son on Etsy
even if he is H even if he is H wow I love wow oh my God that was great uh amazing all right we have one
last listener tale for you today it's listener tales regarding episode 424 ancter nannies and kids who talk to
ghosts um hi screams Canada like France my name like France like France my name is let me see CIT land I think
right yeah cait land you can say it but you already did so you're welcome I love
that but you already did all right let me go to the P the P oh it's the same thing and it says but
you already did so you're welcome for a weird and brief period Of My Life I Lived in Hamilton the waterfall capital
of the world and went to college with Tim bosma's niece a few years after the evil onion events took place damn safe
to say the community will never recover I was driving when I heard this episode and it was 10:58 when I stopped it to
listen when I had computer access you pronounced K Kajiji and a tobaco I think it is correctly hell yeah something
about a truck is a country song by Kip Moore and you were so close on the words but it's farmer field not tan close oh
so close fill in many various compliments I love you and I'm grateful for you here I love you and I'm grateful
for you I love you and I'm grateful for you too on to the story when I was eight
my nanny my maternal grandmother passed away suddenly and unexpectedly she was so funny she taught me how to craft and
sew she played a mean game of cards and made a magical root beer float I want to
root beer floats so badly now oh they're so good oh she loved Angels apples and having her face tickled to sleep by her
granddaughters God what a grandma I know at Christmas time she filled 5 foot tall
stockings for the grandkids that's amazing and would let us stay up late long as she got a foot massage out of
the deal that's a boss [ __ ] right there yeah it is losing her was tough for all
of us I'm sorry 23 years later my mom still thinks about picking up the phone to call her and I never take for granted
being able to call my mom I had the odd spooky dream about her when I was young but never encountered her spirit until
after she passed my nephew H who was born 11 years after she was already gone however got to meet his great n through
ghost tea parties oh my God for a few days I know this is great for a few days he was sitting or standing near a corner
of my sister's living room and babbling away my sister asked who he was speaking
to and he would always say Nanny Buckley nobody in our family ever really called
her that because she was just Nanny to us but had she been with us to see great grandchildren come into the world that's
what she would have been called my mom was very excited to be nanny to her own grandkids it freaked my sister out but
she let it go because it didn't make any sense my poppy Roy was having some health issues and my sister was spending
extra time with him on a particularly hard day H said to my sister Nanny Buckley says hi back here's where my
sister started to pay attention because she uh she talks aloud to my nanny when she's in her car alone so hearing her
three-year-old say your dead grandma says high back was slightly alarming little bit he continued to have tea
parties with her and would occasionally pass on a hello H and I hung out one day
while my sister took my poppy to the hospital for test results the diagnosis was cancer and the prognosis was not
good they returned home and my sister happily chatted away with my nephew pretending her world hadn't just been
Shattered by a guy with a clipboard our badass mom was a single hardworking mom to four kids our Nanny and Poppy helped
raise us and lived with us for most of our lives so he was a best friend a rock and the glue to all of us she asked H if
he had tea with his anny and very knowingly without knowing anything at all cuz my sister was holding it so
together and I didn't even know the news yet said no she was with poppy today he
really needed her oh my God stop he had the odd encounter with her after that but it didn't last too long the bond he
had with my poppy was unbreakable in the few short years they had together they created a true lifetime of memories of
going for quote unquote coffee oh my God stop coffee for pop watered down hot chocolate and a Timbit for the kid a
Timbit is a tiny donnut hole but way better from Tim Horton fishing in every season watching old western movies and
playing with the Tickle Monster Poppy's hand of course this was a favorite of ours when we were little too oh my God I
love your Nanny and Poppy I know eight months after his diagnosis H came to visit him at my mom's house where he was
being taken care of they had their mostly silent visit and left a minute later H busted back through my parents'
door threw his his little arms around Poppy and told him he loved him within a few hours my nanny and Poppy were we're
finally reunited after too many years of him being so lost without her oh our world will never feel like home without
them but I hope they're happy wherever they are they deserve it my nephew is 12 now doesn't see ghosts and doesn't think
I'm cool anymore damn kids anyways keep it weird but not so weird that you let your nephew have tea parties with ghosts
or maybe do definitely citn from screams Canada from Canada attached to her photos of my poppy and my nephew my
poppy and I my nanny with my siblings and I I had to crop it because it was the 9s and nobody was wearing a shirt my
now husband just like a bunch of pictures I love that oh my God let me see your poppy is exactly what I thought
he would be oh I seen them now I couldn't see them at first oh my God he's so sweet what a cutie patootie oh
oh I love these pictures oh my God I love them a oh your poppy is just so such a grandpa such a poppy like he's
such a poppy a just love it wow that was a great story that was a perfect one to
end on oh man thank you for that Kaitlyn you guys are the best you guys rule better than the rest that was a great
batch I liked that one what a what a fascinating batch I know the we had so there really wasn't there wasn't I kind
of like that when that happens yeah well we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it we but not so weird that
somebody sees a ghost version of you in your house because you're still alive and that would be so scary definitely
don't keep it so weird that you babysit for a cold butter killer even if you don't know because oh my God scary scary
scary do keep it so weird that you have a kid who has ghost tea parties because I love that one and honestly maybe keep
it so weird that you steal somebody's microwave plate cuz I love that that's the best kind of petty bye bye
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Brief Summary

Listener tales include babysitting a killer, ghost encounters, and a child's connection to a deceased grandmother.

Key points

Listener Tale: Babysitting a Killer. A chilling story of babysitting for a man who later committed murder.
The Ghostly Encounter. A haunting experience during a night shift at a hospital.
The Doll in the Attic. A mysterious doll left behind in an attic raises unsettling questions about its past.
The Growl. A chilling growl heard by Bob raises the stakes in the haunted house narrative.
Ghostly Encounters. Multiple witnesses report seeing the upper half of a man floating, intensifying the haunting.
Mirror Mayhem. A shattered mirror leads to eerie implications about the ghost's intentions.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

What a random [ __ ] episode.

Ash's reaction to the coincidence of mentioning a specific episode.

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