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is the case of James Dean [Music] [Music] warley the Fon County Sheriff says authorities
located the body in an area around County Road 7 Friday night positive identification will be made through
either fingerprints or DNA but at this time we strongly believe that this is Sierra local state and
federal investigators search the grounds and ponds in that area including the nearby home and barn of the suspect
James warley who is currently charged with abduction additional charges against warley are pending I want to
express my heartfelt condolences to Sarah's family at this time our investigation
will remain ongoing but we do anticipate additional charges against the suspect 20-year-old
Sierra Jin of Metamora was a junior at the University of Toledo she was last spotted riding back home alone on County
Road 6 after parting ways with her boyfriend her bike was found in a cornfield off County Road 6 law
enforcement has been professional and unswerving in their efforts a family spokesperson thanked volunteers and
authorities for their help and is asking the public for privacy during this horrific time Sierra was a remarkable
young lady with a contagious smile she was a loving person who has touched many people in her life we miss her and we
will always love [Music] her [Music] 20-year-old Sierra jogan was a student at the University of Toledo in Ohio she
was out with her boyfriend on July 19th 2016 they were riding bikes in rural fton County which is west of Toledo
Sierra Sierra's boyfriend Josh he was riding his motorcycle and Sierra was on her bicycle Josh said that they were
riding together and at about 6:45 p.m. they had parted ways so Sierra was last seen by her boyfriend around 6:45 on
July 19th she was riding her purple bicycle on County Road 7 this is an area near where she lives in Northwestern
Ohio according to search warrants from the Fon County Sheriff's department and this is where her and Josh grew up at
yeah yeah and they had been together for quite some time right yeah they started
dating in middle school and and and knew each other since they were children yeah
and so she's 20 at this time and she's in college I don't know if Josh was in college at the time but this is a very
long-term relationship and I believe she rode her bike to Josh's house and he's he's kind of riding alongside of her on
his motorcycle well yeah she rode to his house and then I think she's going to ride her bike back from his house to her
house and we even came across a picture uh Josh is appears to have taken a picture with his cell phone yeah I'm
guessing that it is a Snapchat of some kind um I'm not 100% sure on that it it seems like in the corner there's like a
little timer thing so maybe that's a Snapchat photo uh obviously he took a screenshot of that and he posted on
social media and what he said in that post was if you have seen Sierra let me know this is why uh this is what she was
wearing um I'm sorry that I kind of said that a little funny he posted I don't want to be the grammar
police because we know everybody knows that listens to the show we're not Grammar doesn't exist in the garage
right so uh he just kind of misspoke a couple times or mistext I guess but he posted that on social media if you've
seen CA let me know this is what she was wearing and you can see in the photo he's taking a selfie he's on his
motorcycle and you can barely see him though in the picture he yeah he's just in the corner um I'll post that on
Instagram at True Crime garage and you can see her in the back purple bike like a mountain bike yeah it's kind of like
over his shoulder you see her on her purple bicycle yeah and she's wearing you know um like official biking attire
it looked to me or athletic gear like kind ofout gear CrossFit cross training whatever you call it yeah and so and
then in the back of that it looks like there's some cornfield so again I'll post that on Instagram and a can check
that out at True Crime garage according to search warrants from The Fulton County Sheriff's Department her
boyfriend had exchanged text messages with Sierra for a few hours that evening before she suddenly went quiet he tried
to reach her repeatedly that night but all of his calls went to her voicemail Sierra was reported missing by her
family Tuesday night July 19th yeah so my question is how far cuz they she was coming back home and he was on his
motorcycle for just a little bit but he then exchanged text messages with her for a while after that MH and that's
what I find odd is so how far was this bike ride home or did she go home and just was not seen and then she went back
out on on her bike again I don't know that answer I'm guessing she may not have come home uh the her mother Sheila
said that she knew something was wrong very soon she knew that evening that something terribly wrong was going on
with Sierra uh and she knew that the moment that Sierra didn't answer her phone so police are fully wrapped up in
looking for Sierra who is who has now been reported missing by her family I do want to point out out that the police
were quick to announce that Sierra's boyfriend Josh was fully cooperating in the investigation and he was not
considered a suspect yeah and I think rightfully so cuz this is not just her high school sweetheart this is her
middle school sweetheart they met when they were 10 they become best friends uh at a very young age and then they start
dating and in a small community like this uh you're more you know you quickly become more than just a boyfriend and
you start becoming a part of the other uh your significant others Family well and the other thing that I'm guessing
too here Captain is when they say that he that Josh the boyfriend is fully cooperating they're probably talking
about things like what was leading up to the last time you saw her okay well I was on my motorcycle here's my
motorcycle you know check check out my motorcycle check out the picture I took here's my phone look at the text
messages look at what she sent back to me here take my phone all night and next week if you want to yeah and this is uh
Northwest Ohio this is you know kind of a royal area definitely definitely rural
area uh especially the the county road that she was on yeah and and uh fton County um 2010 they say had a population
of over 42,000 uh which could sound like a lot but it's not a lot when you compare it
to the area to the the size of the area yeah and fton County was named after Robert fton the inventor of the
steamboat and I90 goes through this so you'll hear a lot of cases where people talk about I90 we had a lot of cases
where we talk about I90 which is a Highway uh Interstate travel you know travels from state to state and we
should point out that this area of Ohio is Northwestern Ohio and it's all it's very close to the Michigan border yeah
and so just a approximation now everybody's thinking Fon County I've never heard of that
um this is 45 minutes away from Toledo this is an hour and a half away from an Arbor Michigan uh in about an hour and
15 minutes from Finley Ohio okay so after Sierra's family reported her missing the police start to search the
area where she was last seen again this was County Road 7 during the search uh they come across a cornfield now if you
look at a map of the area you will see that there are plenty of corn fields that line the these County Roads that
are up in that area uh and in one of these corn fields they find her purple bike uh they also find evidence of a
struggle they find two pairs of sunglasses one which belong to Sierra and they also find a screwdriver and a
motorcycle helmet which is covered in human blood yeah let me pull up this picture real quick
um because I want to see in the picture yeah in the picture she's wearing sunglasses uh Josh is wearing sunglasses
as well now the the sheriff uh Roy Miller he was quick to point out you know after announcing the findings uh
finding her bike and some of these other items I don't know that they were fully
uh upfront with the other items that were found but they did say that they had seen evidence of a struggle and a
possible abduction and he wanted to make it very clear to everyone that their number one goal goal was still that they
have not located Sierra their number one goal was to find her after finding these
items that we just listed the sheriff's department continued their search of the
area combing the areas around the county road for additional Clues and leads they
come across the property of a James Dean warley now what I couldn't figure out is
is this James's property or is this his mother's or his brother's property or maybe it's just like a collective family
property I read one article where it said that he had lived with his mom and his brother um I the only other article
that I was able to confirm that with was there was another article that stated that he lived with his mother and a
neighbor that lived near them he had complained to her about his mother's growing uh medical cost yeah well she
was in a nursing home she was like 99 years old right um now here's one thing that I've wondered about here captain
now the police found the motorcycle helmet right yeah it supposedly had uh human blood on it I'm wondering if you
know did they just stop at every home along the county roads there and go up and question the person or did they
happen to see you know from from the road from the view of the road where they able to see a motorcycle in the
driveway or up by the house or near a barn or something and think well possibly and when they were looking for
um some kind of suspect they were looking for somebody on a motorcycle and that's where it gets a little
interesting with Josh because uh like we said Sierra's boyfriend Josh was on a motorcycle so did they see James warley
or did they actually see Josh on a motorcycle well either way it brings them to James warley yeah they end up at
Worley's property and for whatever reason whether they saw the motorcycle cycle or not they decide let's go talk
to this right but this is also not a huge town right it's not a huge uh County and at the time um warley is
known to be a small engine mechanic and he basically runs a small engine um repair shop out of his barn mhm and he
did a lot of work for neighbors and people that lived in the area I'm guessing you could take your uh you lawn
mower lawn mower anything with a small engine you know maybe dirt bike or whatever
yeah probably mainly Two Strokes so they decide that they want to talk to the person that resides at this property and
when authorities talked to James warley he had told them that his motorcycle had
broken down very near the same location where they had found the missing woman's
bike the motorcycle helmet and other items earlier and of course warley said that he had lost his helmet he had lost
his screwdriver sunglasses and some fuses for his bike now of course these are the
are precisely the items that were found at the scene and it was not made public that any of these items were found but
what is also extremely suspicious James warley said something that the investigators found quite strange he
made the comments that he didn't steal anything or kill anyone yeah and the person's conducting
the interviews observed what they appeared to be fresh marks on the arms of James warley and what appeared to be
bruising on his lower legs that is just a silly remark by anybody oh I didn't steal anything and by the way I didn't
kill anybody yeah my my bike just broke down and and hey hey Captain how was your weekend well I didn't steal
anything and I didn't kill anybody yeah the now the sheriff's department has what they call probable cause and what I
call 100 arrows all pointing at the 57-year-old weird dude living in the country that just admitted leaving his
bloodied motorcycle helmet right next to the missing woman's bicycle so this is when they get their search warrant and
when the authorities went and executed a search warrant at James War's property what they found was even more
disturbing they find blood on War's motorcycle at the property they also find a trove of items that are commonly
used to commit criminal activity more specifically abductions they find zip ties a ski mask and mace all these items
were found in War's truck a further search revealed a barn that had an area concealed by bales of hay nearby was a
secured freezer that had blood in it now there's no details on whether it was the
blood itself was linked to sieras or to the suspect but let's think about this for a second a secured freezer so he has
a a freezer that locks and they find some blood inside of it well it's like carpet lined freezer which is which is
odd I've never seen a carpet line freezer and authorities also found duct tape several pairs of female panties
journals maps and a nanny cam on his property a nanny cam and there's no like baby or anything there's no nanny right
or baby uh authorities also The Nanny cam isn't it's like spy on your nanny is it well no well keep an
eye on the nanny so he's not punching the kid M but anyway back to the the secret room okay this area that was
concealed by bales of hay the secret room contained restraints and these could only be described as for holding
humans against their will it also contained plastic sheeting ropes chains and a meat hook these were all found on
the property among other items so he's got kind of a whole Dexter Studio set up there in his in his barn yeah and this
Barn is I mean there's parts of the barn that look a little dilapidated uh but for the most part it seems like to be
well upkept and like something that was uh functioning a functioning Barn that they could use um probably some some of
those parts were used for the engine repair business yeah but clearly he had spent some time outfitting a portion of
this barn with the well the tough thing with his own James Dean dungeon yeah the
problem though with the media and I think everything is that we make this huge big deal about all this secret room
well it's probably not an actual secret room it's a barn right so it's only a secret room because he took this
entrance and put uh bal's a hay in front of it so they just constantly the media
is constantly trying to make something sexier than it is I mean and that's a horrible phrase that people use but oh
it's more intriguing if if it's a secret room no it just has happens to be a room
that he hid with bales of hay well but also keep in mind you know the the the authorities firmly believe that he was
probably at the location where her bicycle was found no I understand that and they find this room and so of course
after all these findings at the warle property the Outlook became even more Grim as it was starting to look like the
the police and the sheriff's department they were not going to be able to find Sierra alive almost immediately there is
widespread support across the state of Ohio in the search for Sierra jogen some family members and friends they handed
out flyers with information about her others raised more than 25,000 through a GoFundMe page to support the search many
others showed their support online by sharing information about her disappearance there was even a $100,000
reward offered for information that led to Sierra jun's whereabouts despite efforts and prayers Sierra would not be
found alive in fact her body was located on Friday July 22nd jun's body was found
3 days after she went missing and she was found in a shallow grave in a cornfield not far from the James Dean
War's home James warley was arrested the same day he as we said lived in fton county and he had been charged with
aggravated abduction and aggravated murder in this case now most articles that I read did not mention how Sierra
Jan's body was located or what may have led them to her body but her remains were discovered 3 days after she was
reported missing but just hours after police arrested James warley an autopsy report from the County coroner's office
shows that Sierra had died from a fixation due to Airways being obstructed from a plastic gag in her mouth she
choked to death on a large plastic gag she died of a period of minutes after the gag was placed in her mouth the gag
was described as a large yellow oval plastic device 3 in long and 2 in wide and one of Sierra's teeth had been
chipped the report further detailed that Sierra's body was found hog tied with ropes and duct tape and her hands were
handcuffed behind her back so her ankles were taped together and the they had tied with the the Rope to the hand
handcuffs to the tape right there was no evidence of a sexual assault that could
be found um the report further revealed that Sierra's body was intact with no indications of significant trauma and
there was more evidence the blood and the sunglasses that were found it was later revealed that they had contained
War's DNA M yeah we kind of assumed that they were warley anyways mhm but but we
already had things connecting warly and now we're just circling the wagons and connecting more things to this
despicable person well yeah they're just piling and piling the evidence uh to take this to trial and one thing that
came out very quickly after his arrest was everybody started talking about well is James Dean warley a uh serial
abductor because this is something he had been involved in before well yeah but let's be clear when when her body
wasn't found they just thought she was missing and he was charged before in 1990 he was
charged um with the Abduction of Robin Gardner MH and so they just kind of assumed here he is
again abducting somebody but they'll be found and then once she's found then you
know we'll charge him with abduction and he'll go to jail but then uh Sierra's body's found and now the game has
changed and we have a brief description of the abduction from 1990 um it was you know you had said
Robin Gardner she was riding her bicycle again we see young woman on her bicycle
in a Royal Road near Toledo uh and she told authorities that warley had hit her purposely and that he had tried to you
know once he had knocked off was he driving like a truck or something he was driving his truck a flatbed truck and
while he was on that I90 man once he had knocked her off of her bike he tried to
handcuff her um in his flatbed truck while threatening her you know he's saying things like you you know do what
I say do what I say or I'm going to kill you I'm serious I'll kill you uh according to the 1990 pre-sentencing
report this is everything that that came out in court regarding this case uh Robin Gardner told police that she had
managed to escape the truck and run to a man who had stopped his motorcycle after
seeing the struggle inside the truck according to Robin warley had inflicted a 1in laceration on her right knee using
a flathead screwdriver now at the time James Dean warley he was running a lawn mowing business uh again working for
himself here uh he did deny trying to harm Robin Gardner he told authorities he had only tried to restrain her
because she was trying to leave the scene of an accident all right well James how did she get the gash on her
leg with a screwdriver yeah you don't that's what I'd ask about you don't usually restrain somebody using a
screwdriver I just try to restrain her you know with a screwdriver I wonder if he if he also stated shortly after that
that he didn't Rob or kill anybody no I didn't and didn't steal anything anyways
no but the thing is you know James is not a small guy by any means uh and the best way to describe him in
like in the jury in the court photos that you can see of him uh he has you know this like Red Jumpsuit on like a
prison jumpsuit but he looks size-wise kind of like uh leather face in Texas Chainsaw masc here if you just didn't
have a mask on I mean he's kind of a bigger dude kind of large and lumbering kind of dude yeah um he had went on to
say that Gardner that Robin Gardner had caused the crash and that she had she had cut in front of him with her bicycle
and his statement was that my family and myself are good decent and very honest people and that that was his statement
to the judge at the time mhm now afterward warley entered a plea to the abduction charge and he was sentenced uh
for 4 to 10 years in prison according to an old Court Document which I mean this
is what makes I mean I love our country I love America I love Ohio but this is what makes our country so strange this
guy abducts a lady mhm for no freaking reason he stabs her in the leg with a screwdriver right mhm a sentence he
pleads yeah he guilty then he sentenced for four to 10 years mhm and then he's released in three yeah he was released
on parole in 1993 and there's got in jail smoke that were caught smoking pot a couple times that are spending more
time in jail than this guy is yes yeah here here again we see how that makes any damn sense I I don't know or even
dealing drugs you know what I mean it's like there should be some kind of separation between violent offenders and
non-violent offenders you know because to be honest with you Captain the guy that the guy that's selling some
recreational use drugs uh you know two streets over mhm he doesn't scare me I'm not afraid of that dude but the dude
that decides you know I normally don't like that dude because that guy thinks he's a baller or something and I'm not
really interested in that dude but he doesn't scare me but the guy stabbing the girl with a screwdriver in the leg
he doesn't scare me I just don't want that individual around me no but what I mean is he's he's scary to society you
know this this guy it just he's he's driving and decides you know what oh there's a pretty girl there's a pretty
woman on a bike I'm just gonna hit her with my truck well our law take her home right and our law enforcement and our
government should be really thinking more about how to protect the citizens than to oh well Lissa you smoked a
little pot so we're going to throw you in jail for for longer than uh James Dean spent in jail for stabbing a girl I
mean abducting her uh handcuffing her and uh stabbing her in the leg with a screwdriver and I do want to say that I
am a believer in Rehabilitation I'm all for it however I got to believe that it's probably easier to rehabilitate the
drug user or the drug Pusher rather than somebody like James Dean warley I mean he's he sat in prison he's in there for
three years and he probably masterminded some of his uh I don't want to say masterminded because he doesn't appear
to be that smart of a guy but uh he he seemed to have developed his plan a little more thoroughly during that time
between the time of his uh original sentencing and the time of this abduction I mean he outfitted a por of
his barn for his well yeah let's dive into that Twisted hobby here and let's dive into a little bit of his psychology
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into a little bit of this James Dean Worley's um so after he was charged with the abduction in 1990 and then released
in '93 I think he was coure ordered to actually see a therapist yeah because believe it I believe beli that at the
time they thought he could probably do this again yeah and so as he's talking to his therapist he's making claims that
uh you know he's learned from his past abductions now plural MH so we only have the one on record or one that he's
charged with Robin Gardner but like I said in 90 so but he says abductions meaning
more than one so what happened to these other victims yeah and who are they you know are there cold cases out there that
that he has been involved in um we know his type right you know we we've seen two victims that are roughly the same
age with 20 and 26 and um you know the the their young women young white women uh on both happen to be on bicycles
which is strange enough but he seems to be a person that works for himself and kind of must create his own hours uh and
he probably if he's done this more than once I'm guessing well no let's just assume he has cuz he's saying plural you
well and we know that he's done it twice but what I'm saying is he's done this more than once I'm guessing he's
probably out trolling for victims that he's he's not just driving home from the grocery store after picking up a gallon
of milk and going oh there's a there's a girl that I would like to hit with my vehicle and bring back to to my barn I
think it's he's out actually looking for uh a victim that's by themselves uh that
that he thinks he can easily overpower and abduct them yeah possibly trolling at some points but I think in other
cases maybe it's just opportunist you know so it's not far from his barn uh the Sierra case m is not far from his
his property and he could have been picking up a part for engine you know either on his motorcycle or in his truck
and then gets back and goes I'm just going to take my motorcycle out there you know who knows I'm not we don't
really have a clue on that but so possibly sometimes trolling possibly other times just opportunist so but he
makes the statements to his therapists that I've learned for my mistakes and the next one I'm going to bury yeah yeah
which you would think all right which is in the Sierra case he does because she's
found in a shallow grave yeah yeah so we know that the he kept his word on that but what I'm saying maybe he shouldn't
have been paroled um that should have been a few red flags go up right there obviously right and um but I you know in
these situations the therapist is is more representing the The Prisoner than the previous victim mhm you know and
they got these statements from the therapist through search warrant but I was digging a little more on this and it
is actually now standard protocol that if you have uh somebody in therapy and they start making claims uh about
hurting others you actually have a duty to actually go to the police with this so if you State uh you know I just hate
working in the garage and I I feel like I'm going to hurt uh the co-host you know my therapist needs to
dig deeper well why do you hate him well he stutters on his words he says escaped
um stuff like that they have to dig a little bit deeper and if they think there's
actually some malice in there or some validity to what you're saying they need to go to the authorities now the first
abduction does appear a little more uh opportunist to me where obviously the second one well I'm glad you're on the
same page as me now yeah this the second one is clearly planned out you know he's
got the the weird dungeon in his in his barn and he I don't I don't know if the second one's planned out or if that
weird room is just there I mean from from how long ago was that room set up no what I what I meant by that is
maybe that particular evening on July 19th maybe he you know he didn't set out that evening planning to abduct somebody
but what I'm saying is I think that that area was uh put together with certain items to to have a place for when an
opportunity presents itself right right and this is why the sheriff Sergeant would give the statement that warle fits
the profile of a serial offender and that he could potentially have additional victims who may have been
kept at his property for a short amount of time or sometime it's a what's John's
Brews company again five toes Brewing it's a good beer in the first abduction we see where he was unable to control
his potential victim she gets away cuz he didn't stab her enough with the screwdriver yeah and he was probably
looking to um handcuff her or tie her up to gain control over at some point or at
least get well the other factor in this is the other motorcyclist mhm and he was
he was trying to drag her to back to his truck according to Robin Gardner and unable to carry out that abduction now
we see where in the second abduction he is able to overpower the victim and to gain control of her um it does seem a
little strange to me he has those marks on his arm and the marks on his leg so you know at least there was a struggle
and it it does seem strange to me though if he was on a motorcycle uh that's that's a tricky way to to grab somebody
and take them back to your place right right but then I'm wondering is it a run off the road situation you're on a
motorcycle which is a lot bigger than you know a mountain bike and so is the idea that you'd run her off the
road I I gu I'm guessing I I mean he he may not have had again he may not have had a plan this may have been an
opportunity that presented itself to him and he he acted on it um impulsively and
I think that's clearly what we see in the first case maybe in the SE the second as well uh even though he did
have this place that he intended to take her well he and he might have taken her
there I mean because the police haven't released every all the findings of what they found in the barn I mean they have
claimed that there is no uh human remains that they have found uh I think once they research the property more
um that possibly they're going to find some things and those that will be brought uh to light in trial but like we
said this is a very new case and this is something that they have to keep a lot of stuff close to the vest because they
do have to try uh they haven't put James on trial yet and I'm curious if they are
able to end up up finding any DNA of of the victim at his barn or at his property yeah and that's something that
they haven't made claims to yet but they did say that there was blood on different parts uh in that secret room
mhm and remember he did have that that potential abduction kit in his truck this is found in his truck mind you you
know and we're we're told that he used his motorcycle in this abduction I believe that they're going to find uh
Sierra's DNA at his property I agree with that and I think they Pro they may have already done that we know that they
went and uh what was it in August of this year after after this case was put together they did go to his property
searching for the possibility of other human remains or evidence that there were other people kept there now we've
been told that as of this date they've not found any of that well thanks for catching up I said that about five
minutes ago and but but here again like we said I wouldn't be surprised if there
is evidence of Sierra like you said DNA at his at his home at his in his truck or on the motorcycle in the barn they're
probably holding on to that they're going to use that in court against him keep in mind he has pled not guilty
right uh I wouldn't be surprised if he is guilty of other I I think everything points to him being guilty of of Sarah
of Sierra case 100% yeah I think the other thing that's weird about this is I mean we you know
we get a list of cases that are presented to us and you know we we've we like to do some profiles here and there
and we happen to do Ed gin recently uh or like our Australian buddies call it Ed G Ed G oh you guys did that case on
Ed G um goofy Aussies um but this is kind of a similar situation aies Aussies you and
I got in the habit of saying Aussies no Aussies that's why I call them like aie osborns uh they're from the land of
Aussies um no so it's kind of the same situation you got this family um plot of land with the barn and everything and
then they it's the same scenario you know and then they go back to you know Ed's house and they find all this weird
stuff well you don't find as weird of stuff but it's still you got the secret room with all these you know basically
methods of torture and then you find this victim and she was tortured and well and she it it sounds to me like she
may have passed a lot earlier or a lot sooner than he had anticipated um you know she died from as
asphixiation on that gag on that apparatus that that he had put in her mouth now yeah and I question this
autopsy a little bit and normally I wouldn't just because science is science the problem though is that there's blood
on his helmet mhm and I'm just wondering how bad of a Blow To The Head maybe that
she had uh due to the helmet I I don't know they did say there was no no visible signs of of like extreme trauma
okay so where right right but no I I'm with you I think that he used that blood probably came from him overpowering her
to to take her somewhere else well and and if anybody's been watching uh the CBS special on um Jan Ramsey they were
talking about you that possibly that she was hit with a flashlight but there was
so there was damage to the skull but there was no break in the skin so it could have been the same thing so no
break in the skin but there's still damage to the skull or damage to a bone there was blood present who knows like
they said we don't know if it was his or hers or combination of the two um I wouldn't be surprised here Captain we
were talking about psych you know the psychology of this monster MH I wonder if there are other victims out there
more than the two that we already know about if he is guilty of other crimes do we see a confession here at some point
do we see a guil plea at some point just to kind of you know what I mean because
he he looks very very guilty of there's no getting out of this one there's no getting out this but there's a way to
walk away from suspicion of other crimes I think yeah but I think the the the way
the lawyer plays it is that if we present a not- guilty plead then it puts more pressure on the da so it gives you
more bargaining chips if you're just going to plead guilty from the word go then they're not going to Len the
sentence and and also hope hoping that if you extend it out further that maybe there's not as much um public pressure
MH and that that hold us get a lighter sentence yeah and originally he was when he was first picked up he was being held
without bond um and then eventually he did enter a not- guilty plea to the charges and he's currently waiting for
his trial now I've been told that his trial will start next September not not this month but the following September
so they probably have a pretty big case here to put together um I don't think that he has the means to afford great
counsil um and I mean that in the terms of expensive Council right uh does doesn't mean that there's not great
Council out there um by his means but what I'm saying here is well some idiot will come along and pay for a good
Council and then make a documentary claiming this guy's that this monster is innocent and it's very likely that he's
going to face the death penalty you know we still have the death penalty here in
Ohio um he is a repeat offender um and this was a very heinous crime yeah I mean this is a beautiful
girl with a lot of life left I mean she was going to school she had the loving family she was doing everything right
and here's this guy that's doing everything wrong and their paths crossed for whatever reason and this is the
outcome and deserves to go away forever he deserves to get sentenced to death if
if if that's what your state carries and the thing is here well the the current state of the Ohio State death
penalty is is a bit strange you know we're not currently able to use the the drugs that they use to put people to
sleep and um because of that we've not actually executed anybody I believe in the last 3 years um there were working
to try to figure that situation out um so unfortunately where our victim her life was cut way too short this guy
regardless if he's found guilty or not he's probably looking at a long stay here in prison he's 57 years old he may
not ever see that execution date well like I said here here's some problems that we have you know the therapist
they're taught to if if you think that these claims that people are making have any validity you need to go to law
enforcements I believe these claims had validity I mean he's already charged and
uh and spent time in prison for one abduction he talks about multiple uh abductions then he talks about the next
victim that I've learned from my mistakes the next one I'll bury this is red flags this should have been caught
this is um you know when you talk about therapy this is a mental health thing and this is this is an area that we need
to step up in exactly and if and if they would have caught this earlier and I'm not putting
uh I'm not putting any blame on them I'm just saying that if we really step up this area this crime never would have
happened and Sierra would still be living and and and and attending school as we speak then there's other problems
where he only spends three years in jail for abducting a girl and not only that but I mean [ __ ] some assault charges are
longer than 3 years and he he stabbed her with a screwdriver yeah which is another uh item that we found in this
case so all around this is just there's there's a lot of issues with this going on the thing that is really confusing to
me and I would like to know this information I could not find it anywhere is that her boyfriend Josh talks about
that he was in communication with her after they split mhm and for a while I just want to know how long that was and
what what happened in that time period yeah yeah the the only description that I was able to find was he was saying
that they exchanged some text messages and then at some point she quit responding to his messages and then
that's when he tried calling her phone and yeah and it could have been something like text me when you get home
so I mean that time period could be actually a lot smaller than is what's reported it could be short it could be a
handful of hours for all we know but at some point he's calling the phone and he's only getting the voicemail and a
lot of another thing that's happening with this case is there's a lot of threats to James Dean Worley's property
and again same thing with the edin case uh when we talked about when his property went up for sale they actually
somebody burn it down um burn down the whole facility and they knew that it was arson so there's actually been similar
threats to um wy's property and this is actually something that he really cares about
now I'm not saying that this place shouldn't be burnt down and I'm not saying that I want to applaud the person
that did it I'm not saying that I would uh you know give them a couple rounds of
beers afterwards but um but mind you this is ongoing investigation mind you that
there are other victims possibly out there that we don't have answers to their story and not just
abduction uh scenarios but possible other Mur murders and that evidence could be found on that property so
anybody that's thinking well I'm going to burn down this guy's place you might want to think twice
because you might be stopping the possible solving of another crime yeah and his property and it may be it may
belong to his mother or his brother or to everybody in the family I don't know but the property that we're talking
about we figured out is what roughly about three acres so it's not it's not a small piece of land now they they have
searched it for remains or or evidence of such of abductions or whatnot they haven't found that but that doesn't mean
that they've searched every nook and cran right but the thing too is that's what's being reported like we said
before that's what's being reported that doesn't mean that's the truth M and in this case the the law enforcements don't
have to be open and transparent to the public you know no because there's still a trial that's going to happen and and
the main thing is to get this monster locked up and put away for a very long time now there was a person in the area
that had said that her and her daughter had gone to his property to get a her daughter had some kind of Rec
recreational vehicle that that she used and the daughter was was kind of young like maybe 13 or
14ish um they were having that vehicle repaired by warley and they went to the barn and he was working on you know
fixing this vehicle and one thing that the lady had said that she found to be extremely strange about him now she had
actually this was just days before The Disappearance of Sierra she said one thing that she found to be strange of
James warley was that they had been there about a year to a year and a half prior to have something else fixed and
this was the only time that she and her daughter had ever met James warly right they arrived to get this vehicle
repaired and immediately greets them by both by name he clearly remembered them uh which she found to be strange uh and
he even pointed out that mentioned to the daughter like oh aren't you like 12 you know she he had got the age right
from the year before mhm uh she had also said that the first time that they were
there back in 2015 that the barn itself was a wreck like it was just a total mess there was
stuff everywhere and when they returned this time in 2016 uh just days before The
Disappearance that the barn was extremely tidy it was very clean everything had been picked up and put
away in its right spot and she found it to be strange that this person had lived
and conducted himself in in in one manner for so long and then just a year later complete change yeah but it could
be a million different reasons I mean some logical reasons I mean his mom might have been put away in a home and
then he then decides that he's going to organize things the way he wants to again is it that strange that he
remembers their name hey it's business practice you do business with somebody before you make some notes and then you
can remember a little bit something about them next time you do business with him that's a common business
practice um it may not be strange to you and I but it was strange to the person that had met him on two occasions which
I find interesting and and you know furthermore uh you know is it strange that the barn is all of a sudden clean
no but did he clean it for a purpose other than you know just tidying up the place was he getting rid of things that
he didn't want on his property I'm just going to go with what the therapist talked about when he said
abductions I've learned from my abductions more than one uh I don't think that's some slip by any means I
mean he also had this uh weird relationship with his mother was constantly there was a lot of claims um
by the nursing home that she was in and by other caretakers saying that he was very mean to her uh the police were
called out uh one time to check on the mother because they thought maybe that warley did something to her uh there was
also a time that uh he went the police were called out to the property again because he had a fight with his brother
um nobody was arrested at any of these times but with the mother case the police were so concerned that they
actually said no we're going in the house and when they went in the house house she was just asleep so I mean this
this this is the stuff that pisses me off so much because here's this guy that committed a crime he gets let out too
early he's now talking to a doctor he's saying some goofy [ __ ] nobody reports that he has all these other weird
freaking claims and everybody knew him as you know yeah he's fixing engines and maybe that means that you don't get a
you're not around a bunch of people all the time but it's like as a society let's wake up people and when there's
some weird [ __ ] going on and somebody's acting a little [ __ ] cooky let's take note of it and then
give that to somebody that maybe can take uh some action on that on those notes but it's it seems like you know I
applaud the lady she came forward after the guy is is arrested to say yeah you know he he seemed a little strange well
that's great lady after the after Sierra's found that does nothing and just like the doctor congratulations we
already found the victim well the doctor didn't come forward that was a that was
a warrant that was issued and that's when they found that information and right right well so I applaud you you
know for coming forward after you served a warrant no but applaud the the authorities for for serving the warrant
and getting that information uh and the other thing though with with the woman that I was describing uh who knows we
don't you know media media is a bit of a [ __ ] right we who knows they could have
been out with their cameras bit of a [ __ ] with cameras and with their microphones with their pads and their
pencils going around fton County asking anybody did you know James Dean warly and if anybody's willing to say anything
they jot it down and next thing you know it's on CNN or it's in People magazine or it's wherever um you know she may not
have come forward she may have been asked a question um now we talk about possible other abductions right um now
one thing I thought that I would take upon myself was to search the Ohio Cold Case database um and I I got a little
discouraged and very tired along the way right so I started because this case just took place two months ago I had to
start very recently right and so I started going backwards in time searching the database for people that
would have been similar description to the two girls that that we know of uh in a similar area and of course I was going
to ignore anything between the years of 1990 and 1993 when he was locked up but one thing that got real sad real quick
was I'm checking out Cold Case murder cases in the state of Ohio and I only made it to the year
2003 that's as far as I could get back before I started falling asleep at the table by the time of 2003 I don't
remember what month I was in at that point but I had already looked through 600 Cold Case murder cases in the state
of Ohio that was that was really took the wind out of my sales to know that there's 600 murder cases that are
unsolved in the state of Ohio since the year 2003 yeah well maybe if you quit your damn day job we could solve some of
these things so I only made it back to 2003 right I'm wondering how far back do we have to go on this guy checking these
cold cases and seeing what's in the area and see seeing anything that matches the
victim profile before we come across anything well I the questions I'd want to ask is when did his father pass away
what was his relationship with his father uh we know that he was mean to his mother had some issues with his
brother um I would want to know some of his history in high school but I think you could with somebody sick like this I
think he could go back as far as 18 well and I think too that you might want to know maybe what was his different living
situations has he always lived at the mother's property you know because you had mentioned earlier that you thought
that she was now living in a retirement home yeah she might have passed away by now I'm not for sure last I saw she was
like 99 years old right um you know he's 57 well when you give uh birth to evil maybe you just can't die yeah but what
I'm wondering is are we seeing are we seeing something here where um where he's he's starting up again well I think
because because Mom's not around because now he's there's there's less eyes on there's less eyes on James Dean Worley
in the property that he lives what I mean by that is you you wanted to ask questions about him specifically I'm
wondering what was some of his different living situations did he ever live by himself because well I think the bigger
issue with this whole thing is that if he was driving a truck for a living and on that I90 now you're talking about you
know not just North West he was a he was a landscaper at that time so it it may have been a landscaping truck that he
was driving I don't think he was like a a semi truck driver yeah but all I'm saying is that you're on that I90 so
it's very easy to jump on and and then you have you have this excuse of this company that you can give to your family
and friends probably didn't have any friends uh on why you're out of town yeah yeah and you're right he might not
have had any friends there there was a person or two in the area that had said he seemed to be a guy that knew a lot
about the people that lived in the area and nobody in the area really knew a lot
about him yeah I mean typical loser right MH uh and I and I think the thing about it and that is scary to me is when
you look at the college towns around that area you got Toledo you know an hour and or less than an hour away an
arbor about an hour and a half away you have Finley Ohio which is hour and 15 away you got Tiffany University up in
that area it seems like that the the kind of girl that he's going after is college age yeah and and it's like this
bad Perfect Storm no you're right because most most people see that as see those as areas of potential uh growth
personal growth higher education he sees those areas as hunting grounds I don't know what he sees him as but I just
think just think he's a real douche well his actions I can H that he sees those as hunting grounds it's it's obvious um
I do want to point out here that there was a woman that came forward recently her name is Rachel Hill uh she is the
sister of Lauren Lori anill sorry um and Lori an Hill was killed in 1995 she went
missing for days before a hunter discovered her body in a cornfield now Lori was just 14 years old at the time
of her disappearance and her death um her sister really feels like James Dean warley is guilty of of her sister's
death there's not a lot of evidence to to provide that suspicion um however it should be noted that that she believes
this because of the similarities in the case as well as the close proximity to where they live do you know how close
that is no I I guess um she was the victim lived in a place called uh Swanton yeah I don't know that area too
well I used to play in Finley a lot at ninos so anybody in Finley Ohio I used to play there you probably saw me play
sometime m in Toledo Bar 145 if you get need a nice beer check out that pleas uh
i' played there several times um no I think when it comes down to this all I mean a lot of
armchair detectives and and real detectives would go okay well we have one victim at 20 and one victim at 26 so
this is just his Mo and like I said he's college area so he's it's like this bad
Perfect Storm but you know even though I I don't really care too much for this lady's comments afterwards about you
know him knowing her daughter's age I think people are so quick to say oh no no it's not his M Mo he's he's into 20
year olds he just might be into opportunities and so I think this is if this lady has a gut feeling that uh
James is involved um they need to take that serious and and hopefully they can add another charge to this and I think
it's important that you dive into these other cases solely for that once I believe
once he's convicted of this crime this heinous crime and he is sentenced to life or death penalty or whatever and
hopefully and I'm not advocate for the death penalty but hopefully he sentence to death and
therefore warle will start speaking so these other victims families will have some closure MH yeah because once once
the possibility there's no more threat you know you can't can't be threatened with a more harsh sentence so why not
why not come clean with some of with some of your actions um so real quick here I just looked up we talked about
Robin Gardner she was the first girl that well we had spoke about her she was the one that he attempted to abduct from
an area called White House Ohio now White House Ohio is about 12 miles Southeast of Swanton Ohio Swanton is
where this Lori Anne Hill had disappeared from now Swanton Ohio is only about six or seven miles east of
where warley was currently living uh at the time of of this case Okay so next week can we just like talk about like
Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory cuz sometimes this stuff just it's just it's
horrible because at the end of the day this beautiful girl lost her life and uh and this guy you know who knows what
he's going to if he's going to get if they're going to get Justice or not and I'm hoping and I'm praying that uh he
gets the harshest allowed yeah he's he's currently facing 19 charges some of those charges are
kidnapping aggravated murder um abuse of a corpse uh like I said he'll be facing
court next September I think that the state will get the Justice uh and put this guy away forever and and hopefully
get some justice for the family and his other potential victims I'd like to hear
an update on this lorian hill situation um hopefully they can figure something out with that as well yeah and if we get
any updates um we will do a update show on this we do have recommended reading Captain all right this week we are
recommending this this week we're recommending Charlie in the Chocolate Factory read something that's not true
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Sierah Joughin a college student on a bike ride on a rural county road goes missing. Police searching the area find evidence of a possible struggle and worse a possible abduction. Before Sierah can be located police have a suspect but what police find at the property of 57 year old James Dean Worley is described as a secret room designed to hold humans against their will. As the authorities continue to look for Sierah they fear the worst and the man they believe to be responsible for her dissappearance is in their custody and they tell the media they now believe James Dean Worley to be a serial abductor and possible serial killer.

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Brief Summary

Sierra Jogan's abduction and murder by James Dean Warley are discussed, highlighting the investigation and evidence against him.

Key points

Sierra Jogan Missing. 20-year-old Sierra Jogan goes missing after biking home. Her boyfriend last saw her around 6:45 PM.
Evidence of a Struggle Found. Authorities discover Sierra's bike and signs of a struggle in a cornfield.
James Warley Arrested. James Warley is arrested after evidence links him to Sierra's disappearance and murder.
Sierra's Tragic Death. Sierra was found dead after choking on a plastic gag, raising serious questions.
The Evidence Against Warley. Evidence piles up against Warley, including DNA found at the scene.
Warley's Past Abduction. James Dean Warley had a previous abduction charge in 1990, raising concerns about his history.

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Sierra was a remarkable young lady with a contagious smile.

Describing Sierra's character after her disappearance.

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