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crime foreign [Music] let's get into it this case has a lot of claims I mean we're not going to hear about
Bigfoot we're not going to hear about alien abduction but there's going to be a lot of
interesting claims in this case the Heather T case was dormant for nearly nine years but in 2004 a detective from
Medina Ohio this is detective Scott Thomas came up with an intriguing theory he believed that it was possible that
Heather had been abducted by somebody else this was Henderson Kentucky native Chris below
this is all laid out in an expose in the Akron Beacon Journal that ran in early February of 2005.
detective Thomas was assigned to the Ohio Cold Case of missing woman Catherine Fetzer Catherine vanished in
November of 1991 after leaving a note for her husband that she was going to the mall but she was actually having an
affair this is with a married man the man that we just mentioned Chris below the two met where all great love stories
start at the plasti Coat Factory this is where the two worked they were seeing each other on the sly
for months when Catherine vanished the affair came to light and Chris denied any
involvement in her disappearance and was not cooperating with the investigation Medina detective David shows spent 11
years trying to pin her death on Chris he determined that Chris purchased a handgun at a Medina gun show 17 days
before Catherine vanished then Chris sold the gun at a pawn shop after the detective questioned him about Catherine
then in early 1992 Chris's third ex-wife told police that on the day Catherine vanished Chris met a friend at the
couple's apartment and this friend helped him move a vehicle that was the same model as the missing woman's the
friend Richard Lawrence told police that Chris drove his Jeep over to Lawrence's
house and asked him to help him move a car later that day Lawrence followed Chris driving a blue Ford Tempo to
Southern Medina County where below left the car near some Railroad road tracks this was the same make in model and
color of the car that Catherine the missing woman was driving right Lawrence observed that Chris sat in the car for a
few minutes and appeared to be wiping down the steering wheel and door before he got out of the vehicle
Lawrence also noticed a blue tarp that Chris used to cover his motorcycle was in the back of the Jeep this he says was
unusual because Chris never left his motorcycle uncovered Lawrence also knew that Chris was having the affair but he
didn't know with whom he later heard that a missing woman named Catherine fetzer's car had been found right where
he had seen Chris Park the vehicle so soon after this event Captain Chris drove the Jeep back to Kentucky where he
was from neither the white Jeep nor the blue tarp has ever been seen again or ever located when looking into this new
suspect Chris below the Ohio detectives came to believe that Chris might have dumped the Jeep in the Ohio River on the
Kentucky side in a deep spot this is a real thing that stood out for me in this case
they believed that he dumped the Jeep in the Ohio River on the Kentucky side in a
deep spot where locals often disposed of vehicles which would then get Swept Away
by the river so if you know of this spot if this spot actually exists and it does
exactly what we just said and you're a very dangerous person that needs to hide conceal discard get rid of evidence
well you got your spot and that's a scary thing when we have people with basically with what our
allegations are against this guy well I'm not so sure that this River can take away the car that I'm not a
scientist so I don't know how that would work but what it does do is once it's emerged in that water especially for a
long period of time and might take law enforcement a long period of time to find that vehicle now any evidence
that's in that vehicle is probably going to be washed away well in this spot just
so happens to be less than a mile from where Heather Teague was abducted in 1995. so we have these detectives that
are convinced that Chris murdered Catherine Fetzer in 1991. they resorted to mailing letters to
Chris pretending to be a relative of the missing woman of Catherine's pleading for information about her Chris ignored
them he did time in an Ohio prison after serving time for stealing money from a little league team in Holmes County and
then moved back to Henderson Kentucky where he was from this in August of 1994. I mean think about this this guy's
a real piece of [ __ ] I mean one three wives every time that we have a real piece of
[ __ ] it's always man I got three wives they it's like there there might be pieces of [ __ ] but they're they're good
con men and then this [ __ ] or they're really bad at choosing wives yeah um but no but then this [ __ ] steals
money from a little league team yeah that's pretty low down that's that's pretty low down yeah that's Bad News
Bears but the thing here Captain is not only do these detectives believe that he
is responsible for The Disappearance of Catherine Fetzer but they also believe that he might have killed other women as
well yeah a serial killer Evansville Indiana police picked Chris up in November of 2003 and
they went to an apartment where he was living with a woman and her five kids and arrested him on accusations that he
had molested his niece detective Thomas took this opportunity to interview Chris he confronted Chris
with Catherine's missing persons case and questioned him for four hours by the end Chris confessed
that he shot Catherine in his apartment in Medina Ohio detective Scott tried to get to the
bottom of where he hid the body right Chris told him that he ditched her in a dumpster
but detectives found evidence that Chris once bragged about knowing how to quote
get rid of bodies this by burying them in a shallow grave and putting lime on top or feeding them to Hogs which will
eat everything including clothing and Bones this was quoted from the 14news.com story
I guess after this confession Captain Chris was extradited to Ohio his attorney struck a deal with prosecutors
who without the body they don't have this Catherine's body right so they were kind of backed into a corner here and
felt that they had to take what they could get so the deal was that Chris agreed to
serve 11 to 18 years for manslaughter which is obviously not enough but you also have all these accusations that
he's also a child molester so at some point you're you've got to get this animal off the streets so you
can't hurt anybody else he was 39 years old at the time and he started serving his sentence in the fall of 2004 so
anybody out there looking for a future ex-husband would be happy to know he should be released in 2021 no the answer
is no so who is this guy you want to look into this guy for a little bit piece of [ __ ] is what he is right I
second that uh Chris below was a real wild one and not in a good way born and raised in Kentucky and the product of an
unhappy marriage and even though he chased a lot of women it looks like he had a real disdain for them he had a
tattoo on his chest depicting a horned woman which he described to investigators as
showing women as quote blood sucking [ __ ] end quote and despite being a real [ __ ] Chris
was married five times that we know of oh my God and was engaged when he was finally busted so five times that we
know of sounds like he was working on number six so what does all of this have to do with
our case with the missing person case of Heather Teague well they already proved
that he knew the area well that's right he he grew up in the area and in November of 2004 Kentucky State Police
confirmed that Chris was under investigation as a person of interest in The Disappearance of Heather Teague
after the Ohio detective started looking into unsolved cases of missing women in
Indiana and Kentucky places that they knew that Chris lived well a question for you did do we have any drug history
with this Chris guy I don't know I can't say for certain that we have anything on
the books uh my suspicions are that yes that that we would it doesn't because we
have some on-again off-again use with with Heather so I'm just wondering if that could be the connection there yeah
I think there could be all kinds of possibilities when we talk about this guy so let let's get into a little bit
about what the detectives discovered in regards to Chris and their suspicions of
him they knew that Chris was living in the Henderson Kentucky area in August of 1995 when Heather was abducted
on the day that Marty Dill killed himself Chris abruptly moved to Georgia this is all very strange he's living in
the area when she was abducted and on the day that Marty Dill killed himself he gets up and he he takes it to Georgia
Chris and Heather Teague apparently had some acquaintances in common so they may
have there's a chance they may have known each other but what we do have here is at least saying that hey people
that they knew knew each other Heather made a call from a pay phone outside of a bar near Henderson this is the night
before she vanished this bar was frequented by both Chris below and Marty Dill right so it doesn't have to be one
of one or the other it could be both there you go that's where my mind goes yeah because I mean that suicide like I
said doesn't make a lot of sense I mean yes you don't want to go back to jail but it's it's essentially a drug
charge but if you have a murder charge now now you're facing a whole different kind of sentence those are I think are
the most damning thoughts about what could connect them to this case we do have one more
statement and this is from the Akron Beacon Journal where they have people that are saying that Chris hung out at
the beach where Heather was last seen he was known by these people according to their claims to drink and do drugs there
I do want to point out we also covered that article that says five to six hundred people may have been at that
somewhere along that beach that day so it seems to me like most of the people in the area went to that beach so I that
that whole thing I don't think is such a big deal I find the bar thing really interesting though yeah here's what's
fascinating though you this woman she's Heather was a pretty lady she catches your eye
you at some point see her leave you now know her vehicle as you're driving around maybe that
Beach area you spot her vehicle and like we said she wasn't in the major populated spot of the beach she was kind
of secluded so is it possible that these two individuals were hanging out and saw her vehicle parked and said hey
remember that girl from last night and maybe there was conversations that they had with that girl with Heather that
night and here's another thing in regards to Chris's appearance the physical traits of Chris
we're going to quote here from the Akron Beacon Journal just because they really
summed it up very succinctly and they stated quote outwardly he would alternate between an attractive
confident man sporting a cowboy hat for a photo that he passed out to women that
he was intrigued by that he wanted to talk to wait he would uh pass out a photo he carried a photo with him here
you go ladies eat your heart out well I think what they're trying to point out here Captain is that sometimes this man
had the ability to appear to be clean cut right while other times he appeared to be strung out looking a mountain man
with unkept hair and a scraggly beard bushy hair in the beard yeah there was one thing though that Chris could not
hide whether it be under a cowboy hat or you know when he did have that clean-cut
look he could not hide a peculiar genetic Quirk that gave him kind of a distinct look
when resting at his sides his arms were bowed and His Hands turned in a awkwardly
position so his palms faced backward with his thumbs against his thighs this is a little strange what could this
possibly matter people are wondering so here's where the case starts to go off the rails while looking into Heather
teague's file in it the detective found the composite drawing of the scraggly bearded man whom Tim Walthall described
to investigators as the man he saw dragging Heather into the woods right and Thomas believed that he saw in the
drawing evidence exhibited by that physical nature of Chris with the hands turned inward right
Tim Walthall told investigators that when he witnessed the abduction he said quote I remembered everything about the
guy especially how he held his hands turned in and in my humble garage opinion the drawing compiled based on
Tim walthall's memory it does resemble Chris well and we have no eyewitnesses coming forward saying
that they saw Chris's vehicle so that makes a lot of sense because we do know that this Bronco was in the area
so again points back to two individuals and also maybe you commit suicide because you know how big of a piece of
[ __ ] Chris is and if he is like you said possibly a serial killer then we know
that he's capable of murdering you as well because we do have the witness who seem
to be very certain that it was in fact Marty Dill that he saw that day on the beach but we do have a statement of him
later after he saw the photo of Chris he says you know whether he still thought it was Marty or who took Heather
or if it could have been Chris he says quote if you asked me five years ago I would have said yes this in regards to
Marty Dill now he's saying now I don't know right as for Heather's mother really she didn't know what to make of
this development because remember she had been told by the state police that Marty did this
so let's talk about this composite sketch that police used to to lead them to Marty Dill first of all
it's pretty detailed I mean considering that the witness was half a mile away and looking through a
telescope right it seems a little dubious that uh Tim walthaw would have observed such a small
detail as to the way that the suspect's hands lie against his thighs I find that
it look Tim walthalls come under quite a bit of attack and a lot of it I don't Sarah Teague is not going to love
hearing me say this I don't agree with most of it one thing I do find very strange about his story is this whole
thing about the the way that the suspect's hands were against his thighs we have his statement
that this took place very quickly and we know that two things according his to his statement were going on at the time
one the suspect is carrying a revolver in one hand and at some point the suspect grabs the hair of Heather Teague
pulls her up and twists it so this this whole thing takes place in a very short window of time and for a good deal of
that both hands are occupied both hands are doing something where they would not be
resting naturally at their sides or unnaturally at their side right so I find this to be either either it's very
convenient now that we have a new suspect or it's just I don't I don't really know what to make of it I'm I'm
very skeptical of it to say the least well in In fairness to Heather's mother I mean when you go through this uh
traumatic situation and you're not getting answers and and at one point they're going it's this guy a hundred
percent and then they go uh wait a second maybe it's this guy and then you have the possibility like we already said
could be both guys and then so and then you find out that the eyewitnesses has some
relationships possibly with law enforcement and then you start questioning like we
said before he you know all records point that this eyewitness didn't call 9-1-1
that he end up calling um the sheriff's department or the police department in that area which is
not crazy but if I see something that I think possibly could be violence especially against a female call 9-1-1
immediately but we have a gap in time uh and I think what also probably has really rubbed Heather's
mother the wrong way is every time initially that she was dealing with the police she was also dealing with
eyewitness and I think that would raise some you know red flags why didn't you just talk to them and get his
statements but he seems to be very invested into this investigation and look again if you're a true crime fan
then you're gonna go hey there's plenty of times that suspects will uh insert themselves into investigation is that
what this eyewitness is doing and that could just play tricks on your mind when you're not getting answers the
the difficult for the difficult thing for Tim to have been involved in this is just that in my opinion he could have
only been involved there would have had to have been other people involved and I
say that because we do know for a fact that he did call police right whether the story he's giving is true or
complete lie we know that he called the police and gave a statement of something
he says that he's seeing what we also know to be true is we have the videotape proof evidence of her vehicle entering
the beach that day so if in fact that was her driving her vehicle and I mean the notes say here that the videotape
I've not seen the videotape but everything I found says that the videotape also shows Heather walking
down to the beach by herself [Music] if all of those things happen then what that tells me if Tim is a bad guy if
he's lying if he is somehow involved in her disappearance then he is still just calling it in from across the water and
something else was going on and this might have been a bigger a whole bigger nasty thing that was going on that
that's really hard to pinpoint just one person well impossible to pinpoint one person for being responsible before we
move on from the composite sketch though Captain I do want to point out hold on I
do want to point out that he was also with his wife at the time and so if he's involved
then his wife would have to be involved as well the thing with the composite sketch according to Sarah and I
I like this I like this questioning that she has going on regarding the sketch itself because she says at some point
hey I believe what they did was they reverse engineered this whole sketch meaning they didn't sit Tim down
and he describes the guy and then they pull up the paper and go up this is what he described no she's saying there's a
possibility that they were drawing a picture of Marty Dill right and remember His Old driver's license in fact does
match the description of the composite sketch right so they could have pulled out from their records and then use that
to draw a positive and nobody really will know for sure we do have the Kentucky State
Police on record saying no we drew the guy as described by our witness and and we do have we we do have Tim on record
who says look all I know is I saw a guy take a girl off the beach and I described what he looked like yeah but
you know what this all sounds like remember with making a murder where they have
um a lineup a photo photograph lineup and they end up putting Steven Avery in that lineup it sounds very similar to
that where it's like okay well we have some eyewitnesses that maybe saw this Bronco we know who owns that Bronco we
know this guy is kind of a shady character so they're all him draw him up that's what Sarah is pointing out she's
like look that that whole bit slipped through the cracks and they screwed up by reverse engineering this composite
sketch and oh I figured it out because you didn't put two and two together that that this guy doesn't actually still
look like this he may have looked like this at one time but he doesn't at the time of the abduction now the tricky
thing as we've already pointed out is Chris below does not he I mean he looks like the composite as well
so it's I mean it's really just a very difficult thing we even have a statement by Sarah the mother who says at some
point where she actually believes that maybe the composite was somehow put together after they were already on to
to Chris which I with Marty I'm sorry which is not so much different than what she was saying years ago
we're going to segue just briefly here captain and look at whether Chris would be connected to any other missing
women as stated by the police detective Thomas believed that since Chris worked as a truck driver along routes that
included North and South Carolina Florida Alabama and Louisiana that he should be looked at in other cases of
missing women around the country there does seem to be reason to suspect that he could be a repeat offender or even
possibly a serial killer as you pointed out and here are some reasons why his half-sister Melissa
told police that her brother kept a shoebox of items that were suspicious she said a reporter to a reporter quote
he pulled out the box one time and said if anything ever happens to me hold on to this
so what was in the Box according to Melissa and it were letters new photos right and items of jewelry but it also
contained flyers for five or six missing women she said that Chris had moved the items
in the shoe box to a metal box with a lock after he found out that she looked through it and had taken the box with
him when he left investigators executed numerous search warrants looking for this box in
December of 2004 multiple agencies joined in the search for this box when they searched Chris's fiance's home they
also opened up a storage unit that was rented by Chris they're looking for that lock box
they're looking for according to the newspapers items that could connect him to The Disappearance of Heather Teague
as well they did not find the lock box but they did find a certified mail receipt that placed Chris in Saint Cloud
Florida in 1998 at the time when a woman by the name of Mary kushtu vanished after leaving a local bar she's
never been found either and her case remains unsolved and open to this day [Music]
foreign [Music] [Music] cheers mates cheers Captain we are going to look we could spend a whole episode or two just
on this Christopher character if anybody wants to look him up it's Christopher J
below or below or Bello however you want to pronounce it but it's spelled b-e-l-o-w look him up he suspected in a
lot of different cases some of them seem to be a bit of a leap and others seem to
have quite a bit more weight to him but he's an interesting one to consider we won't
totally move off of him though because I want to touch on this real quick in regards to the case that we're
talking about this is from a November 2004 article that ran in 14news.com actually a series of articles about
Chris being considered a person of interest and it contains a new Theory one that you were dancing around earlier
and this states that in the article it reveals some information about the videos that we talked about earlier
where we have the farmers who were setting up a surveillance so to speak of the area of the day in question
and the article States regarding this video that the investigators believe that the suspect that Dill Marty Dill is
behind the wheel of his Bronco remember the video captured her car her walking to the beach and the Bronco right and
they also say that the video captured possibly Dill behind the wheel of the Bronco with maybe Heather being in the
bed of the truck and investigator say it appears that Heather's car may have been ransacked
and the person who is doing it was probably not well is hiding from the camera I'm guessing that the camera
would have been obvious to people in the area most likely to the right of the car
where the corn stalks have been crushed down the investigators speculate that Dill Marty Dill drove the Bronco while
someone else assaulted Heather in the back of the vehicle and they believe that that someone could be Chris below
intriguing right we have two suspects that both look good for this abduction separately but also together as well
well we have a questionable eyewitness questionable as far as the family is questioning his involvement well I think
this is where we want everybody to hang on because this case will get even stranger as we go because there is an
entirely different set of circumstances to consider and this will take us down a
whole other path to the possible truth yeah some rabbit holes Sarah Teague says that the FBI
which were involved in Heather's case came to her in 2005 and stated that agents discovered evidence that sat in
the evidence room at the Kentucky State Police and was never tested the state police had screwed up the
investigation the agency recommended that Sarah pursue the case at the federal level she should have Heather
legally declared dead if she did so it would allow the FBI to provide her with their documentation about the case
pursuant to foia request let's Ponder this just for a second right evidence in the custody of the
State Police sat collecting dust rather than being tested all of this time yeah in the face of the same agency telling
the family that Marty Dill killed their daughter and then killed himself that's the problem though is sometimes with
these cases you have law enforcement going hey we think this is the guy we just can't prove it okay now we have to
move on to other cases but this whole time you had some evidence that was sitting there and you believe you you've
identified the victim you believe you've identified the perp let's let's test some evidence right and see if we can
close a case I agree with you so after after doing as instructed after declaring having her declare dead Sarah
got her hands on the FBI Files which were of course heavily redacted now we have only Sarah's word
for what these files contained they have not been made public although the find Heather teague.com webpage has some
brief excerpts so all of this information is according to Sarah now this is some of what she said she
has uncovered an unnamed FBI agent wrote in a 2005 memo that Heather Teague was last seen on a boat ramp not on the
beach on a boat ramp two hours after the key witness called police FBI documents indicate more than one
person may have been involved in Heather's disappearance Sarah believes that Heather may have
been going into the witness protection program based on some of the documents stating
quote WP program on them one of the documents excerpt for public view on Sarah's site
written by an FBI agent in 2005 includes the statement presently attention is primarily being
focused on the strong possibility of drug slash prostitution strip club public corruption link to Heather
teague's abduction investigation continues a 2007 FBI synopsis mentioned that something redacted in the memo was being
kept a secret by the Kentucky State Police at the present time no family member attorney is aware of the same
the records don't explain why the FBI started looking into Heather's disappearance Sarah said an FBI agent
told her it was because the case was potentially connected to another case in which the agency had interest the FBI
documents on her site are very heavily redacted and almost impossible to make heads or tails of one mentions a source
has heard that certain public officials in Henderson strongly enforce meth violations in an effort to promote and
protect their cocaine business it also mentions Uncle Sam's strip club another says that there was a club
you're gonna you're going over this too fast for me Uncle Sam's strip club meaning that the government has a strip
club no the or that there's an actual strip club called Uncle Sam's there's a strip club called Uncle Sam's strip club
Okay the reason why I'm going over this very fast is we're talking about documents Where damn near everything has
been blacked out on them so all you're getting is little bits and pieces and so we don't know what their relationship is
if anything that's the key thing there if anything is to this case but these are the things that they chose not to
redact and if in fact this did come from the FBI as Sarah says it did then this is the breadcrumbs that we have yeah I
mean there's a lot of it seems like there's a possibility because we know that Heather had some drug use that
maybe there's some possibilities that she was working with law enforcement possibly to set up a sting for people
that's one Theory and then and and go with me on this but the idea is that there was a sting that day
it didn't go well she was taken captive and the reason why some of this stuff hasn't been tested or we don't have
answers from law enforcement is because since they were working with Heather that they have to cover up that they
made a mistake and they weren't able to protect her that's one of the claims that are out
there right and the way that that theory kind of goes in place to the people that
we've already mentioned in this whole mess is the possibility of our witness actually being in the drug trade himself
who is phoning in a phony abduction that may involve the two suspects that we've
already mentioned one or both of them right we know that we have a Dead Man Marty Dill who was running some kind of
growing selling marijuana operation and that maybe somehow a lot of these people were in cahoots together and he's
phoning in something kind of a staged abduction that's meant to look like something else when really
they're they're just trying to shut up this young woman who is is looking to to put a lot of people
behind bars right again as said I I don't know we have to point out that that these documents they come from
Sarah it take them for what what they are or for what I guess for what we're being
told that they are grain of salt we don't know if anything if this has to do with the actual Abduction of her
daughter it does mention a club in town called rumors really all this is hinting
at though there are rings that are doing illegal activities and making money doing illegal activities and either
Heather was aware of these or she was involved in taking them down that's what that is meant to point at
another whole mess in this this big case here captain is the calls themselves the calls that
started it all with the eyewitness who says I witnessed the abduction phones it into police now
there's discrepancy whether 9-1-1 was called whether the Indiana state police was called whether the Kentucky State
Police was called and then transferred to Indiana State Police it gets all very messy very quick but what we do know did
happen is Sarah was eventually able to finally listen to this call because at some point she gets suspicious of the
eyewitness and of the call itself and at the very least says hey I'm the victim's mother at the very
least you could let me hear the call right well and look I I just want to point out that there's so many cases
that we have looked into or that are a part of the True Crime world and when there's not answers
you start becoming suspicious of almost anybody so I I think that's what has definitely
happened in this case but I just want to say that that has happened with a lot of
cases and then you that's when you start getting the these ideas of these bigger
conspiracies but again here's an individual the eyewitness that has inserted themselves in law enforcement
allowed that to happen so again I think it's within the within her rights to go hey I'm
suspicious of this person because you have allowed him to be here and to be so present during this investigation well
and I'm going to try to go through this as efficiently as possible let's say because this is a long story and there's
a lot of twists and turns in this portion of the story as well and I don't want to lose anybody along the way so
I'm going to try to make it efficient but before we get into that it's it's not just
a suspicion of other people being involved or or maybe your mind runs wild and you go to these big conspiracy
theories or anything like that it's also at some point you just go maybe this group cannot solve this case maybe this
group cannot figure out what happened to my loved one give me a damn shot at it give me a shot at it right I know that I
don't have the resources that other places do maybe I can rally the troops and maybe we can figure this thing out
and look this is a cold case and it was cold years ago it didn't just get cold last week this thing has been cold on
ice for a while so I'm I'm fully with Sarah Teague here the short of it to start us off here captain in regards to
the call the eyewitness call to 9-1-1 would be that she says look I want to hear the call and can you can you
produce the call and give it to me can I get a file or a copy of this call she gets the run around saying hey it's on
reel to reel or we're having trouble locating it blah blah blah right but this eventually
ends up with her finally hearing it sitting down with law enforcement to hear it in 2008 and she says hey I heard
a digital copy it wasn't Real to Reel like I had been told all these years so that is going to cause some suspicion
on her part well Sarah Teague sued hold on a second yes it might cause some suspicion but
it's very possible that they took any reel to real tape that they had and converted into digital format because it
would save a lot of space well of course of course I know that you know that Sarah Teague probably very well knows
that she's just going if it was so damn hard to get a hold of it for me to hear it years ago why all of a sudden this
and why is it not what you told me it was this whole time right so she sues the State Police in 2016. this for
denying her open records request relating to that call itself this motivated by what her attorney says was
a discrepancy in the call itself meaning the details that are given during that call there's a discrepancy
between what they heard when they listened to it in 2008 and then when they heard it again in 2016 when they
got permission to hear the call again it was played for them by a state police detective that was assigned to the case
now Sarah and her lawyer believed that it was different as said as the one that they heard eight years earlier her
lawyer said that the state detective told Sarah that the reel-to-reel tape of the 911
call had not been sent to the FBI until 2012. and it was returned in digital format in
2014. let's think about this for a second part of the reason why she's told hey we can't
produce this tape for you as we send it off to the FBI she's saying when I finally heard it
when I when they produced it in 2008 it was a digital copy now in 2016 they're saying hey it wasn't sent off to the FBI
until 2012 when we got it back we got it back in digital format in 2014. the the stories either they don't know
what's going on and they're perfectly innocent and it's just they they've really
screwed up the chain of custody on this this good piece of evidence or they're telling them a story it's
it's either one or the other it's either you drop the ball or you're making this up as you go along
and it feels like that and again if you feel like law enforcement is making stuff up as they go along
that's why I just I I feel so bad for the victims families in a lot of these cases I mean you
know look at the Amy mahalovic case I mean and what that can do to parents and and you're almost like grasping at
straws and in and sometimes you hear people make fun of the victims families for
looking for answers from psychics and from Terror readings and from wherever you know I mean but I think it's just it
just shows like you said if you think the law enforcement is telling you a story then
what hope do you have yeah I mean from the outside looking in here I mean obviously we're not privy to a lot of
the closed-door meetings that Sarah had with law enforcement and mind you she is
talking to several different agencies she is represented by an attorney as well but I mean it looks like there is
something Something Fishy going on something and and maybe again maybe it's not anyone's
fault per se maybe they're not they're not puppeteering this whole Magic act but maybe they they just don't
they don't have the answers but don't make them up don't don't produce an answer if you just don't know but it's
also the difficult like you said we don't know the information that she has from law enforcement because they had to
disclose all that to her right but some of these leads or some of these things that they worked you know like oh
there's eyewitness that saw her on a boat dock we don't know where that lead took them right and what we end up
having here is you know she wants these this recording or recordings depending on whose side you believe she wants them
released in October of 2017 a judge agreed with Sarah Teague because the state police their concerns about
releasing the 9-1-1 tape they're saying hey this is an open investigation we don't want this
released and the judge comes out and says look your concerns and the way you've explained them to the
court are vague speculative and extremely remote based right and he ruled that look it was a complete
disregard of Sarah's rights willfully violating the St the state open records law
and so the judge ordered that the state police release the call or calls again depending on who you believe and related
chain of custody information to Sarah and her attorney at that time so now they're given this information it's now
Theirs to do what they will with it in January of 2018 her attorney filed a motion for contempt and a motion to
compel the motion's claim that the state police failed to provide the records as
ordered by the judge so they've had four months to produce after the court ordered them to do so
and they had not by this point they had produced a grand total of zero materials
that were required by the court so the judge ordered the state police to pay Sarah's attorney's fees and costs and
penalties which totaled over 23 000 dollars well which is good for her but yeah because she shouldn't have to
go broke fighting them again for something she already won right but that's again
like like you've always said it's like is it evil or stupid if you're just being stupid and that's why you haven't
given it to her or you're trying to be like oh well she sued us so we're just gonna be uh pain in the ass about it
but it's not affecting their pockets it's affecting the taxpayer Pockets I imagine
you know because she's probably suing the department she's not suing individual detectives or officers
and so good that they have to pay for her lawyer fees but it also just makes it seem evil like there's something
nefarious going on here like they're trying to cover up something look and I'm not coming after the Kentucky State
Police that's not what I came to the garage to do today so I don't when I leave the garage here I don't want
anybody to be left with that impression that that the colonel that we set out to
destroy the Kentucky State Police because I'm sure it's it's a fine outfit it's a fine organization but what I see
here in this case does not reflect that I I drive through that beautiful state many many times I do not want any
trouble at all but what it causes me to question is multiple things what did they know or
suspect about the victim involved here you know we saw these things of maybe witness protection or maybe she knew of
some bad dealings going on and she was informing law enforcement about that but that that makes you take it a step
further then we have outside agencies involved we know the FBI was involved because they gave redacted files to
Sarah this is per Sarah's statement to the public right and we also have reason to believe that other agencies outside
agencies were involved this is the detectives from Ohio coming down and saying hey this Chris guy that's been uh
snooping around you're possibly snooping around your beach and might be linked to
your missing persons case down here we think he's good for some disappearances in our state and probably in some other
states and then you wonder well if they weren't willing to work with the Teague family how well did they work with the
FBI how well did they work with these other agencies and look we say it all the time here in the
garage it takes a village to raise a child we all know that sometimes it takes a village to solve a case
sometimes it takes a bit takes a village to protect our children and to protect our people you got to work together and
I question if they did that and if they did how much effort did they put into working with with these others well and
sometimes you can raise a child with a pack of wolves but look this uh department needs to get their [ __ ]
together this is a this is a victim that again you drop the ball so stop continuing to drop the ball
and it makes again stupid or evil it starts making you question though even though I I don't think there's any
evidence that this eyewitness is a bad dude or that he has this horrible criminal
record but if he is somehow tied in with law enforcement then are they protecting him in some kind of manner
it it makes it very questionable and um yeah so well the other thing though too is you know we have a
situation where whatever happened to Heather she was 23 years old on that day when she vanished
when she went missing today she would be what 48 years old we're coming up on 25
years on this case so we're talking about currently a whole new generation of officers in that state police outfit
a whole new generation so there's no reason for them to cover up for past transgressions against you know the
the old the old regime let's say uh but they also just might not be aware of what was going on 25 years ago this case
is really a confusing mess of rumors allegations changing stories and false leads it's almost impossible to make out
what actually happened to our victim to Heather Teague yeah well when you have rumors that possibly that she was
working for law enforcement possibly working maybe even for the feds then they she
enters some kind of witness protection program but you'd think at some point they would
have explained this to at least her mother or would have had her um you have all these rumors like that I
mean like I was telling you in an interview she doesn't go into it too much but at one point she says
it's possible my daughter was working for the Democrats and you're like what is she talking about there there's
there's no follow-up in the interview after she says that and but I think again when
we shouldn't have to question law enforcement as hard as she's had to question law enforcement and I think
once you have to do that opens up a can of worms and it really makes your brain go Anything is Possible
Bigfoot is possible aliens are possible you know what I mean well here's some things okay
I have to believe that if the FBI obtained any actual concrete information they would have acted on it rather than
just hand the files over to the victim's mom over to Sarah I agree uh again I believe this case is a confusing mess of
rumors and allegations as a result Heather's fate is really been the subject of all kinds of
rumors you discussed some of them and we discussed the witness protection program
Theory a bit look I I purposely do not want to go through all of these rumors because
there's not enough time and really a lot of them these rumors run the gamut and most
don't track most of them don't have any carry any weight to them at all some of the more interesting ones though that I
found along the way maybe she was buried in concrete and Bluff City near a trailer this is on Second Street where
she was rumored to have been killed other rumors are she was killed and fed to Hogs this was backed up by a redacted
FBI document regarding a jailhouse snitch your favorite kind of snitch there Captain who reported that he heard
two guys and one said he killed Heather in Webster County and fed her two hogs there's another rumor that Heather was
the victim of a snuff film Sarah Teague seems to have believed this at some point early on in the investigation
here's another one Heather was accidentally run over while trying to escape a moving vehicle either
the Chevette or the Bronco both already mentioned in our story she was then put in a box and dumped into the Green River
this one came from a brother-in-law of Marty Dill who said she died while trying to escape
of all of the rumors and possibilities this is one that that I can't get out of my mind I cannot shake this one this one
feels to me to be much different than the other rumors out there I also have seen several cases where people are have
dumped victims bodies into this Green River so very interesting that this rumor includes one or both of the
vehicles that we've already mentioned and this kind of notorious Green River what does her mother believe
well as summarized in the messenger Inquirer quote Sarah Teague believes that her daughter was involved with
illegal drugs and may have been about to expose powerful people she has said the
case involved drugs prostitution and public corruption and that Heather met with a Henderson police officer the
night before she was abducted Sarah said that Heather met up with this same officer three weeks earlier this all
points to Heather being a CI and informant for the police and Tim Walthall she believes may have been
working with the cops or made up his story altogether to hide something else further she has insinuated that Marty
Dill might have been murdered we'd like to state that we've have seen nothing to verify these theories
now this Theory seems to hold I guess some weight on maybe its face and probably at the core of it as well
however this theory has some wide widespreading tentacles and the theory quickly becomes complicated and
very unlikely what's strange about Heather's case is the manner of the abduction
because if somebody planned to take Heather whether a gang of drug dealers corrupt local authorities or someone who
was stalking her a public beach in broad daylight does not seem like the best option for a
discreet kidnapping that's not when you knew that the night before she was at a bar
yes she's at a bar or you're having a one-on-one meeting with her earlier on you could have snatched her then and
what I'm pointing out is it it seems downright Brazen and way too risky if that's if that's what you're trying to
carry out and not impossible though not impossible but I also think that it's out of the
question that this would be a witness protection situation they're not too much money spent yeah
resources I feel like this type of violent forced abduction seems more much more like a typical crime of opportunity
some guy or some guy's driving by or heading to the beach saw Heather Park walking alone to a secluded part of the
Sandy Waterfront decided to grab her whether it was Dill whether it was Chris whether it was both
um I mean really it's it's anyone's guess at this point I have to think that the big fork in the road in this case is
very simple it lies with the witness reporting the abduction if this report is truthful then this was very likely a
sexually motivated crime likely perpetrated by some stranger or possibly strangers working
together if his report is a lie and creates this false narrative then maybe the tentacles
stretch as wide and deep as Sarah says and as wide as she believes however Captain I see a mother who has worked so
incredibly hard to locate her daughter to bring her daughter home even if she is already passed away
and out of this hurt and Desperation one could easily begin to believe in their heart
that the answer has to be a complicated one or else by now we would know what happened
fortunately we are currently living in an age when cold cases 20 25 30 some years later are finally getting soft and
time and time again we see the answer is usually rather simple a cruel display of
how someone just simply has no empathy and really no basic human decency the attacker is often some violent deviate
and because he has no heart puts his selfish disgusting once ahead of someone else's beautiful life I pray that Sarah
gets the answers that she and her family so very much deserve after all of this time and heartache Sarah was so
dedicated to finding Heather and so vocal in her advocacy for missing persons in general that she was
appointed as a Kentucky Outreach coordinator for Q the community United effort Center for missing persons
Tim Walthall has been dragged through the mud in this case he was even told by the Kentucky State
Police to leave town for a while Judge Shepard refused to require him to submit to a polygraph or to testify in
court on grounds that it would deter future Witnesses in other cases we hope that one day Heather is found
and the answers to all of these outstanding questions are resolved if you have any information on The
Disappearance of Heather Teague her mother would prefer that you contact her her email address is Sarah dot teague5
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Back in the Garage again! The Captain and Nic discuss a strange disappearance. Heather Teague was sunbathing at Newburgh Beach on August 26, 1995. A witness told authorities that he saw a Caucasian man approach Heather. The abductor allegedly grabbed Teague by the hair and dragged her into the woods at gunpoint. If you have any information please send to Sarah.Teague5@gmail.com

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Brief Summary

Heather Teague's disappearance is explored, focusing on suspects Chris Below and Marty Dill, and the challenges in the investigation.

Key points

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Chris Below's Dark Past. Chris Below, a suspect in multiple cases, has a troubling history of violence and deceit.
Eyewitness Testimony. Witness Tim Walthall recalls a man dragging Heather into the woods, raising new questions.
Marty Dill's Possible Involvement. Investigators suspect Marty Dill may have been involved in Heather's abduction, possibly with Chris Below.
Unanswered Questions. The case takes a turn as Sarah discovers evidence that was never tested, leading to deeper inquiries.
The Eyewitness Call. Sarah Teague finally hears the 911 call about her daughter's abduction, raising suspicions about its discrepancies.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

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Discussion about Chris below's character.

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