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nice afternoon after we've had a salad it's actually 333 which is my good luck time oh look at that I don't know
oh man an angel number I saw 222 and I saw 333 today oh I keep seeing four fours in my life yeah you love 444 yeah
um I already told you this so it won't be new to you but I saw this Tick Tock guys and it was saying it was like
you're at like a change in your life and I almost scrolled past but then I said I'm woo let me hear it I'm woo I'm blue
tell me about it it said you're gonna start seeing repeating numbers I said check I see Angel numbers all the time
even like not even times but like addresses like I'll drive past your house and I'm like oh [ __ ] five five
five look at that um and then it said you're gonna start waking up in in the night between like
three and four in the morning and then when you go and it said that and I was like okay I already do that literally
every night I wake up at three um and then it said you're gonna start having these Vivid vivid dreams which in
the morning like once you've gone back to sleep which has started happening to me I've told Elena about some of my
crazy ass dreams this guy knew and he knew and I forget what happens after that it wasn't bad um but I mean I'm at
like a point of Spiritual Awakening I guess oh look at you and it's funny because a lot of you guys actually have
been messaging me seeing if I'm okay which we appreciate which I appreciate I'm totally fine we've had like some
family stuff going on which like sucked but I don't want to really talk about it
yeah that's why we had to we missed one listener tale last week I believe it was
yeah yeah I was out of the office I had I had to attend some stuff yeah there was some stuff going on but everything's
okay everything's cool everything's good and gravy but I I'm out of Spiritual Awakening in my life so that's fun that
is fun yeah but you know oh my god do you know what we got to do I think it's two weeks from this week what so so in
two weeks I was like we can go to the obituary show we can go to the obituary show yes I really am very excited about
obituary obituary art um our show that's on our network with it's not our show it's Spencer Madison's show but they're
on our more but no there are babies um they are going on a world tour like a straight up World Tour I've shared the
and I know you have too is it a world tour is there like a a national tour well it's a Us store I
thought it was like wait are they leaving the country no not yet anyway not yet I don't I'm not here to spoil
I'm not gonna live it there yeah I'm not gonna clip their wings it's called manifestation look it up so they they
currently right now are on a US tour sorry Europe um but we get to go to the Boston show
we're gonna be there and if you're not there to support our friends are you even our friends are you even our
friends oh my God that show's gonna be March 1st and I'm so [ __ ] stoked about it
um March 3rd they're gonna be in New York City March 6th Washington DC March 8th I'm reading all of these to you just
so you know Philadelphia the 29th they're gonna be in San Francisco California y'all whoa then they go to
Portland March 31st and for the rest I'm not going to read all of them to you because that's actually a lot I started
saying and then I was like maybe I shouldn't do that we're gonna link the rest of the show dates in our show notes
and we will post them on Instagram but I think you guys should come see us at the Boston show hang out with us and see
Spencer and Madison put on the Glorious show of ever be the beautiful goddesses that they are be supportive Geoff hell
yeah or else because that show is so [ __ ] funny guys they're so good and they're like the most delightful people
ever so it's support them yeah they're some of my favorites so yeah we'll put the link to their
um all their upcoming shows and then where you can buy tickets in our show nuts indeed so come join us at the
obituary show on the East Coast let's go let's [ __ ] go girls I am ready for that I can't wait I'm so excited uh you
know what I'm not excited about though part two of Harvey part two of Harvey Club yeah I'm actually gonna need you to
just like head right into this because you left on a [ __ ] Cliffhanger and a half I sure did I think when I left you
guys we talked about the third victim which is Ruth Marcato um he's already killed two other women
at this point he's attacked countless others I was gonna say it feels like so much more than that because he's just
attacking everybody left and right like a big giant [ __ ] yeah it's pretty terrible and he's doing it in kind of
the same wage time he's got a really like pretty consistent Mo he uses rope he strangles he brings them out to the
LA desert clean photos claims he doesn't want to do it it's it's all ridiculous he's really annoying it's so crazy to me
that he and I think I said this last time too but I'm saying it again saying it I'm saying it he says that he doesn't
want to do this like oh I I sat there and I really struggled with myself but then he does the exact same thing every
time so clearly you liked this you didn't do this thinking you were getting any different kind of result no he's a
lying sack of [ __ ] it makes me angry like if like don't be a murderer step one but step two [ __ ] own your [ __ ]
yeah own it he's definitely a lying sack of [ __ ] and we're gonna see at the end
of this episode you're gonna get a little little Glimpse at him that you're like you're yeah like you don't feel
anywhere no I don't think he whatsoever and what's even worse about this is this
took place in like the late 50s and the LAPD for Ruth mercado's murder uh her photo didn't appear in the LAPD bulletin
I said this at the end of the last episode just to recap you it didn't appear in there until two months after
she had gone missing and the notes on it were May seek employment at nude modeling or as a stripper and mental
condition poor it's like um who did you ask about that it's like I don't know I think the guy who did this his mental
condition is poor yeah I would say some would say even worse than that and I think this was one of those things where
they they looked at it like oh she's she was a stripper yeah and a nude model so
who gives a [ __ ] it's like okay first of all I know that all you detectives have
Playboy under your bed so I don't know what your issue is with nude models and second of all you're all going to strip
clubs so what's your job and it's a job they are going to a job and they are making money exactly shut the [ __ ] up I
don't under I hate how that just like played and I'm sure it still and we know still does play a part oh yes it's like
who gives a [ __ ] what somebody does as a profession as long as they're not hurting themselves or someone else
exactly and it's like who are you to say what is a valid profession and what isn't yeah like you could say that about
anything like we're podcasters that doesn't sound like a valid profession like you know what I mean like I've had
many people look at me like it's not a valid profession but we do it it's a job like it's how it pays our bills like
that's it's like that's what a job is it's like you go you work you work hard you put your energy into it and it pays
your bills right that's supposed to be what it is at least it's like it's so [ __ ] up it is I don't like it no it
makes me mad so unfortunately we ended on another murder but we are going to enter into finally him getting caught
and not because he was caught through like good old-fashioned beliefs work never this is the 50s isn't it nope he
was caught because this bad bad [ __ ] Lorraine got away from me oh I like that name a lot yeah Lorraine really went for
it I was gonna say I said this is the 50s and I forgot to mention the LAPD is on the game exactly so there's a lot
working against this that is a lose-lose situation at this point in time at least and so after
murdering Judy doll Shirley bridgeford and Ruth Mercado Harvey was almost immediately ready to kill again he was
not like really amping up yeah he did not want to wait but he did let six months pass by he wanted to kill right
again but he was he knew there was some heat on not necessarily on him but he didn't want to slip up yeah fortunately
for us he does good now during everyone else exactly now during this time he got
another job as a TV repairman a repairman because remember he did that in sing-sing prison like that was what
he would make his money on on the side God I forgot that he went to sing so yeah you sure did he went to Sing Sing
prison uh in but at this point he was kind of starting to lose it a bit and lose it in the sense that he could not
stop thinking of abducting and killing women like he was obsessing over it like could he couldn't keep his Jin his mind
in his normal everyday you know day job he obsessively was looking at photos of the women that he had killed that he had
he kept in his little toolbox there he would spend hours just going through the trophies he had stolen from them like
the shoes and the underwear the pieces of fabrics things from their purse like all he could think about was doing it
again he obsessed over it I hate this this also shows you he doesn't have remorse no like this isn't a guy that's
like oh no I did that I shouldn't have done that no he loves it that's why he kept that [ __ ] so he can relive it 100
more reliving obsessing just like no he loves what he's doing you're not remorseful if you are just wanting to
relive the situation like if you're remorseful you never want to think of that situation oh yeah so in late
October of 1958 he was officially back on the hunt but he was so eager and so [ __ ] lazy
that he didn't even bother to use another fake name he just went with Frank Johnson again which was the same
one he used last time and up until this point he switched every time he's been switching and it's been working for him
and he did the same photographer trick this time which you would think he would get out of that because he had once
other one other time with Shirley bridgeford he did the Lonely Hearts thing right because he knew people were
going to be looking at photographers now he's already killed again as a fake photographer named Frank Johnson and
he's going right back to that so he's losing it he's he's getting too eager this Obsession this pathology is taking
him over and he's making mistakes yeah so he took to the paper to look for his next victim and he ended up finding an
ad for a modeling studio called the Diane Studio it was a modeling agency on Sunset Boulevard and it specialized in
pinup modeling okay so on October 27th he showed up to the Diane studio and said he was Frank Johnson a professional
magazine photographer and he needed models for a campaign it's really gross to me that he does it
this way because it's like he's going to a place and he's just essentially purchasing women to murder yeah like
he's paying like he's like I would like to hire a model I'm going to pay for that and then I'm just going to take her
out to the desert and murder her torture her murder her yeah it's like that is so
[ __ ] up that he is able to do that I know I didn't really think of it like that when you look at it as like yeah
like the nuts and bolts of it yeah like strip everything else away this is him walking into a place saying hello hello
I'd like to pay this much money for to have this girl come so I can take pictures and nobody knows and nobody
under knows because that is a legitimate job and that is a legitimate transaction
yeah it's like unfortunately it's the perfect way for him to do it truly it was the perfect way he was able to get
any women that he wanted but then at the same time it's not the perfect way because you can't keep up with that for
too long that's true you're gonna run out of places they're gonna start recognizing onto it and if you're using
the same name like this idiot then they're really gonna start catching on but what is even more wild about this is
exactly what we were just saying he had actually photographed Diane of the Diane
Studio a few times she owns she owns the studio damn and she must have been you know I
think she was probably in the beginning when I told you he first moved to LA yeah and he was trying to like work out
how he would do all this and he was taking pictures with a practice person yeah I think he was she was probably in
the beginning there and when he showed up on this day she recognized him uh oh but she had previously found him so
creepy and did like off-putting she's like I'm not sending you one of my girls oh no unfortunately she didn't want to
go with him oh no but she said she would find a model for him she did not want to turn away a paying
customer so she threw him another really [ __ ] I promise you there will be another paying customer yeah if like if
somebody gets both increase why would you ever sick them on another woman on another woman yeah that bummed me out
when I read it I would never do that because obviously I don't think there was like a an intent you know what I
mean obviously to be like a dick there but it's like but that's it what are you thinking of that like if you found this
man creepy enough putting enough that you yourself will not pose for him right why would you put another one of your
girls on them like I might say oh yeah like I'll find you another girl and then just not return but I just wouldn't
right yeah I'd be like sorry no one wants to work with you no because you're weird maybe I don't know maybe 10 years
ago my answer would have been different or something like yeah maybe she was young and just maybe he wasn't thinking
yeah I don't know but it it gave me like oh I was like come on yeah that sucks especially because of what happens
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old Lorraine vigil Lorraine had been working as a secretary when she came across the ad for the Diane modeling
studio and she decided you know what I mean give it a try I want to make sure exactly some extra money she wanted to
change up her her routine a little bit she was like you know what I'm just gonna spice it up well it's like a hobby
and I'm a beautiful woman why not I'm gorgeous let's go girls and in fact Lorraine had only been with the agency
for a few days when she got the call from Diane wow and she got the call a little after 9 p.m that night saying
that there was a job for her and she would be and that Diane was going to be sending Frank Johnson by her apartment
to pick her up within the hour okay this is all very shady I'm also like can we not have them picked up at therapy I
know I'm like there should have been a better protocol here yeah like one place in the office yeah like they have to
come to the studio yeah excuse me sorry I was a little horseback a little horse so she's getting ready and Diane calls
her back as she's getting ready Diane says listen I know I'm sending you out with this guy
I just want to warn you that he is quote sort of creepy and definitely not a pro
photographer so be careful what the [ __ ] yeah if he's not even been a pro photographer then what are we doing here
ma'am and that's and so I feel bad for Lorraine here because she's like I'm already getting ready she's only been
here a few days she probably doesn't feel like she can refuse a client at this point and that's the thing so she's
like okay and then she's like maybe because I'm new Diane's just being extra cautious and like
overwhourning me kind of thing like she didn't really think much of it because she was like I'm new so maybe
she's just being extra cautious also from a business standpoint why would you want to give one of your newest girls a
bad experience right off the bat she's not going to come back and model for you exactly like that's just bad business it
didn't I didn't really understand a lot of this thought process as Tatiana says choices yeah choices truly uh but
you know she was like whatever so a little past 10 PM Harvey knocks on Lorraine's apartment door he says hello
I am Frank Johnson I'm a magazine photographer and immediately she reminded him that
Diane insists on getting the money up front ah well that's good good for Larry Lorraine she was like you should always
get your money up front always get your money up front never wait because people
will [ __ ] should they'll they'll [ __ ] it up yeah they'll [ __ ] with you people
will [ __ ] with you if they are allowed to [ __ ] with you so don't let people [ __ ] with you they might even keep your
money yeah they'll keep your money so like don't let them do that and this and Harvey tried to pull that [ __ ] so like
it's true because if you don't get it up front they're gonna try to pull some [ __ ] and give you less yeah
and like not to keep quoting people but to quote my good girl Riri [ __ ] but I have money there you go hey me
what you owe me and Lorraine was like that's okay me what you owe me like you're not coming in this apartment
you're not getting my services if you're not paying for them no I don't work for
free mama so she they had agreed upon 22 dollars okay which again this is in the
50s so they had agreed upon 22 he decided that he was going to give her ten dollars and then he did convince her
that he will give her the rest later oh honey no yeah he won't unfortunately because people pleasing is a real thing
and we've all been there yeah that you're in a situation where you feel like you can't argue she didn't argue
and she just said okay she accepted it and she accepted his promise that he was going to give the rest before the
session and by the way it would have been like 275. so there you go it's gonna be like that's a good amount of
money so he really he gave less than half of that yeah [ __ ] off which that's [ __ ] up so Lorraine was immediately
put off by this Frank Johnson [ __ ] character I would have been put off by that [ __ ] too hell yeah and on top of
being like weird about the money situation he smelled like cigarettes she said and he had bo ew which like I like
I would I would have been it for me it's all Behavior yeah he is such an insult take a goddamn shower and she said he
was every bit The Creep that Diane had mentioned I'm angry at times I'm a little angry at Diane as well but once
they were in the car because they were going to be going to the studio the Diane Studio
because that's the other thing I should say the reason that like he would come pick her up at the house is because a
lot of times especially in La at this time people didn't have cars oh okay so and it's not like you could call an Uber
and just go to the studio so a lot of times these photographers would drive them to the studio
okay so it's kind of part of it so he was driving them to the studio and then Harvey all of a sudden on the way there
said that there's a change of plans no there's not as we know when Harvey says there's a change of plans you don't
listen to him but he says that there's a change of plans and that Diane had some other people
coming into the studio so it was taken up so they would have to use his studio in Anaheim okay so Lorraine was like
ah right like she just kind of was reluctant but she was like ah all right whatever like who am I to argue with all
this this is probably the way things always go because that's the thing it's like when you're in when you're new to
something like that you're probably like is this just par for the course you know
like I am in La yeah because it's just how things go like people are going to give you less than what they owe you and
exactly they're going to change plans on the way to the studio and this is probably fine
so she was just like okay whatever but she did say every alarm Bell was ringing in her head yeah unfortunately the
benefit of hindsight is always easier but like trusting your gut is definitely a real thing but then also at that point
it's like what are you even gonna do what are you gonna do at that point like so all your only option at that point is
tuck and roll you got to think of a plan basically that's yeah but that would be
very stressful um and at the same time Harvey is attempting to kind of like ease her
anxiety like because he likes to get them comfortable yeah he likes to he doesn't want everybody screaming and
yelling remember it makes it easy the second a woman turns around and challenges him in any way
he please remember that's happened a few times like he cannot handle a woman turning around and surprising him with
any kind of no that's literally when he dips so but but these women don't know that so he so his whole thing is that he
likes to get them calm he likes to get them to trust him until he has that gun out and then he can really control you
but before that he's got to keep you docile he doesn't want you jumping at him so he's kind of just telling her
about this fictional job that he has come up with what they're going to be shooting how you know this is going to
be great she's so beautiful you could even make the cover you're that beaut like this magazine they're gonna love
you he is hyping her he's hyping her up and he's like you know what I think if these photos really make it then you are
definitely cover model material oh man so she's like oh this is great but then as they kept driving South toward the
desert they got on the Santa Ana freeway and Lorraine is suddenly not feeling us
at ease because she's starting to feel going because she said that quote he began driving at a tremendous speed oh
and then she said he would never answer my questions or even look at me oh he just stopped I've I've like heard that
in other cases when they just like will not answer you they just go into that zone oh God that would be so scary it
really is like a [ __ ] like animal putting on like yeah Hunter mode it truly is it's like they just click it
off it's like how wolves like a tick talk about wolves like they can like play with you and stuff but when that
animal Instinct kicks in it's like Snap there are different Beast it's so true and she said it was clear to her that
something bad was happening right now and she was really in full Panic especially when he pulled off the
freeway and onto the shoulder oh God and this is when he told her he had a flat tire and she was like I don't think you
have a flat tire but she was in full flight or fright mode so she was about to take off
running she was like I had a plan I was gonna bowl like as soon as he got out of
the car I was getting out of there but before she could he pulled out the gun oh my God and he said I'm an ex-con and
I'll kill you I don't give a darn if I go to the gas chamber which is not something you want to hear
nope and he tried to force her to get her hands behind her back so she he could tie them
but she shocked him she did something he was not expecting she just grabbed the barrel of the [ __ ] gun oh my
God it has screamed at him while trying to wrench the gun away from him what a brave girly he was
sure me as well shocked and he fought back grab the barrel of a gun like yeah she just she's like not today
[ __ ] I today is not the day and I'm not the one Barbie or Frank I should say oh my God yeah grabbed it she's
yelling he's yelling she's trying to wrench it out of his hands and he's yelling just do I what I tell you and
you won't get hurt which l-o [ __ ] not true I love that I it made me think of the uh Buffy episode
that we just watched on the rewatcher actually you guys gotta listen to that it's great but it's so much fun we love
doing that it's just like a really fun show yeah but there was an episode where like Angel is getting his ass kicked by
Kendra all over the place and gets like thrown into a cage and he's like in a cage on his back and he's like don't
make me hurt you and it's like my friends you are useless you are in no position to be telling me don't let make
me and it's the same thing with Harvey it's like don't make me hurt you like [ __ ] off I just grabbed the barrel of
this gun don't make me worried about you really at this point Don't Make Me Hurt
You exactly [ __ ] you little little man like get out of here so he grapples with
Lorraine and he's trying desperately to subdue her but she's fighting like hell hell yeah and during this whole fight
the gun goes off I was waiting for you to say that the bullet went through Lorraine's skirt and it grazed her thigh
oh and she said quote I'll never forget the Hideous sound of the bullet as it whined off into the night oh which I
also thought was like a very beautiful way of saying that is as it wind off it was like night it was like really scary
and terrifying but like beautiful at the same time yeah it's poetic she said she's very well spoken that way now even
Harvey was shocked by this because remember he doesn't like trouble and he doesn't like to he doesn't like to shoot
the gun he's using the gun to scare people he likes to use a rope yeah because he can take the Rope off he can
wipe everything down he doesn't leave a trace guns leave traces of people yeah sure so he's like that can be traced
back to me and apparently he was so shocked he just goes I shot you oh my God like I was like shocked and Lorraine
was like uh yeah but she wasn't gonna sit there and ponder that with him for a little while so she Twisted out of his
grasp because at this point he's grabbed her she twists out of there because she's like you're a little [ __ ] turd
of a man she twists out of there jumps up shot in the thigh by the way yeah and runs the [ __ ] out of there oh my gosh as
she's running she is tackled from behind like a [ __ ] football player by Harvey
coming out of his shocked stupor oh he tackled her down from behind luckily he had not made it to his killing ground
yet the desert where he feels comfortable taking his time and torturing women for [ __ ] hours like a
disgusting little maggot that he is they were on the side of the highway albeit in a pretty desolate area about like 200
feet off this the actual highway but it was a heavily traveled there I was gonna
say anybody could drive by at any moment exactly you know who did happen to come by like
you said at any moment highway patrolman Thomas Mulligan oh sh Thomas Mulligan he
knows what the [ __ ] is up yeah I have faith in Thomas Mulligan he happened to be on his way home after his shift oh
man he's like I thought I was done for the night and what's crazy is he didn't even see the two of them yet he just saw
Harvey's black Dodge on the side of the road I thought someone wasn't having car
trouble well the dome light was on and both doors were open oh [ __ ] so he looks
at it and he's like that's suspicious so he was like I'm gonna listen to my gut so he just went to investigate it and he
came upon Harvey and Lorraine engaged in like a violent struggle oh my God like I
had no idea that's what he was coming up on Harvey is such a scared little bunny
when he is confronted with any kind of authority so he stopped immediately when he saw the cop wow this allowed Lorraine
to jump up off the ground and literally just like Sprint at the patrolman and she's screaming he's trying to to kill
me he's trying to kill me later after Harvey had been arrested Mulligan described Harvey as having a quote
lunatic stare oh Jesus and he said it took quote three or four minutes to get a hold of himself because he was just
like out of it like that's scary yeah and he said a lunatic snare it's like what we always point to like in the
Bundy case when he like lose like he's cool calm and collected and corn and then and then loses it yep and you can
see so scary it is literally like a flick of a switch it is and what's crazy is later after talking about it Lorraine
actually said that she bit his wrist at one point and he cried out during that struggle like a little [ __ ] and yeah
the way she described it was I bit his wrist and he cried out then suddenly I found I had a gun in my hand I turned it
around and pointed it at him if I had known how to fire it I believe I could have killed him but he just stood there
and watched me and after a while the police came wow I'm glad that she didn't kill him yeah because I want him to
suffer in jail and serve time for everything that he's done to these women exactly including her and I don't want
her to have that on her head that she had to kill someone yeah because no matter who it is like that's a that's a
heavy load I imagine to take so it's like I don't want that on her no so Harvey was taken to the local sheriff's
station and he tried to explain that he had only been in California for a few months he had met that girl that night
and then he said he didn't have any plan to hurt her he was just trying to scare
her were they like what's with all the rope and the gun then and also like that's still [ __ ] up yeah like that's
still not allowed even if this was true which we know it's not I was just trying
to scare her is not a great excuse why though you were just trying to terrorize your community that's like you're trying
to terrorize this woman for no reason like what's wrong with you what the [ __ ]
is that about how is that a good excuse and detectives didn't believe the Harvey
story they were like yeah no uh fortunately they didn't so he was booked into the Orange County Jail that night
on charges of attempted rape and assault with a deadly weapon good [ __ ] so he said I love I'm only trying to scare her
and it's like okay well I'm only trying to scare you with a [ __ ] prison sentence you dick yeah how about that
can I scare you with that right can I scare you with the electric chair like that's pretty scary [ __ ] you
so this was good we finally have him yeah and now that he's in custody and he's being charged Harvey really tried
to minimize all the events I had a feeling that was gonna happen yeah he did he did so he minimized everything
but then he kind of essentially admitted that he was planning to sexually assault
Lorraine oh good but he was definitely not going to tell them that he was planning to murder her when he
definitely was uh at least not at first he wouldn't admit that he later does okay he said that he you know he was he
was just trying to assault her fellas like come on don't worry about it everybody like how I like just guys
being dude this guy's being dudes locker room talk the problem was Harvey was never as smart or as stealthy as
stealthy as he thought he was or wanted to be no any this whole story was so [ __ ] cobbled together he had a long
criminal history of attacking women that they now were privy to and detectives were beginning to get the feeling that
there was something much bigger happening here and not only just that he was planning to attack this woman and
assault her they were like he was definitely going to hurt her at the very least but we think he was going to try
to kill her right and now they're sitting there going I think he might have done this before
like I think there's going to be more here we should look into this thank gosh they had that feeling yeah and luckily
they sent an alert out to all the law enforcement agencies in the area and detectives in Las Vegas Los Angeles
thought you know what we have a few missing women and we should see if we can tie these to him that's a good
thought guys there you go maybe I'm glad you're thinking I like it and they sent
two detectives to Orange County to interview Harvey foreign [Music] so detectives from OC and La
interrogated Harvey separately for days they were hoping to crack him or just get him to slip up at all and finally
they were successful yes he agreed to take a polygraph test and according to reports quote the polygraph needle about
hit the ceiling when the administrator showed him a photograph of Ruth Mercado oh now this was all it took like he saw
that needle going like he watched it like he knew that he was and he goes he can't beat the machine I suppose you
found my toolbox you're just playing with me now but they hadn't found his toolbox they
had not found his toolbox why would you just I'm so happy he did like why would you just offer that up
this is a case where like IQ does not correlate with common sense well because it's like book smarts versus Street
smarts and also where it almost feels like he knew he had to be caught to stop yeah
like it's one of those things I don't think he wanted to stop but I think he knows one he doesn't want to go back to
prison no he did not like prison and two I think he knows like this just isn't gonna end like I might as well just give
it up because like just kill me instead I think he'd rather die than then go back to prison or any of that and I
think he's just so [ __ ] cocky yeah like I think it also has a lot to do with that
but like I said they have not found his toolbox yet which I'm also like you didn't find it because they searched his
apartment like you didn't find that so they the LAPD detectives went back to the
apartment to search again and in a more thorough search they found the toolbox I'm like you missed that the first time
so he hadn't said that they wouldn't have found it no and that's like I mean the like those are literally smoking
guns right there and it was hidden in the garage guys that's exactly where you find a toolbox like it's not like he
even put it like behind his air conditioner a la Dexter or something it's like you didn't really have to look
that far wow how did you miss that thank goodness yikes yeah and when they got the toolbox obviously they found 22
photos of Judy doll Shirley bridgeford and Ruth Mercado both alive and dead that's horrible and as well as all this
stuff all the trophies that he had taken from them now these photos we were just
talking about it they're really disturbing and it's not because they're graphic no they're
they're really not graphic but they are so graphic they're emotionally same time
well I saw Elena looking at an article and I was like are those the real photos and she was like unfortunately yeah
there's one and I'm not sure what um which women which woman it was but like she literally is crying that's Shirley
bridgeford that like you can it's moments before she gets killed horrific because these pictures the Shirley
bridgeford one she's in the desert she's on a blanket just like he said you know
you know how that night went we talked about it in part one she was not um she was not a model this was the
Lonely Hearts one yeah that he did she was the most out on a date right and so like there was no tying up going to be
happening in any sense of the word like for photos or anything like that and in the photos she's tied up on a blanket in
the middle of the desert gagged and she is crying I'm a personific to look at and I don't don't recommend you look at
it yeah no but please if you are looking at it like when I saw it I was like that's
someone's mom you also just like have someone Wonder daughter how [ __ ] how those photos get out there like why were
they just released that's so [ __ ] like I don't know why anybody would want to see that it's a
very disturbing one it really is it's all very disturbing one and this is Judy doll sitting on a chair tied up and
looking scared but I think that was during the sessions yeah but even but that's even scary too because you're
like it's right before yeah like it's right before that's those are her final moments I don't know her I like don't
have a connection to her other than this case I do I shouldn't see that like that's not for my eyes yeah it's one of
those things it's like I feel like my opinion on crime scene photos have shifted a lot yeah as we've gone through
this podcast I think honestly no I'm looking at so many I think it's like it's changed the way I view them and I
think I kind of look at looking at these I was like yeah I don't I don't think I'm supposed to see that I think it's a
little inhumane personally because I said to Elena I was like if that if I knew that article was out there and that
had happened to you like I had to literally put myself in that situation and I was like flicking through an
article and I saw like you yeah like crying on a blanket about to be I brutally strangled the one I couldn't
imagine being your family and seeing that and two I couldn't imagine being your family and knowing how many people
had clicked on that article and saw you like my like I'm gonna cry right here in
your final Moment Like that's that's not that's not Republican yeah consumption it really is a chain like a photo it
changed is on my view a lot a photo is a lot it is and I think it's because I don't know I don't know these ones
these ones changed a lot of my view because they're different they're different kind of crime scene photo they
are they're not of a dead body they're not of a graphic in the in the bloody or gory sense of the word but these ones
are like emotionally graphic they are and and I'm not used to that you know like that like seeing someone like
um I don't know it's just it's like these ones bum me out I don't think all crime scene photos bum me out yeah these
ones just like hit different you're just like oof like I think I don't know and they're taken by him and that I don't
know that's some like because crime scene photos in general are usually taken by police officers or crime scene
technicians obviously in like autopsy photos and all those those feel more clinical and a little more like a fish I
don't know well no and I think that's exactly what we're getting at here is that like these aren't clinical these
weren't to assess anything at the scene no these were for him these were for him
and now we're looking at them and not like we're not sitting there like staring at them but like if you read an
article about this it'll pop up you're probably gonna see one but yeah I think that's what it is I think it's that
they're they were taken by him yeah and then they're the finals that's upsetting
these women's lives yeah because I can just you look at the angle they're taking you're like he's just standing
over them it's just I don't know it's I didn't like It's upsetting I just want you guys to know that if you if you
stumble across them because you likely will if you look up this case they're kind of everywhere oh if you Google his
name it's like some of them are like in the first three and they look like they're not real but they're very real
yeah um but yeah it's definitely the the photographer that bothers me I don't like that we're looking at it through
his because we're looking at it through his eyes and I don't like that no uh but
yeah that's just the evolution of our view on crime scene photos um but the discovery of these photos and
the trophies that were in the toolbox that was all detectives needed to tie the three murders to Harvey yeah boom
here they are thank you for that box the pictures he knew it at this point so he
was like yep so it almost seemed again like he was detectives thought he seemed relieved to be caught
hmm I don't know if this has to do with some kind of like you know psychology here that he was
feeling like an urge that could not be tampered so he was feeling like I need to be stopped okay I don't know if I
agree with that from what I've read about him but like who am I I wasn't there well and there's so much weird
psychology that we just don't even know about when it comes to people killing people yeah especially serial killers
that I think it could be anything finally I think it does it was definitely clear that he was beginning
to lose lose it and he was beginning to lose his grasp on normal reality and being able
to play the two sides of his life which were I'm a TV repairman no I'm this and it's like I think he wasn't able to
straddle that line anymore and so I think because he was unable to control his urges anymore that was becoming an
issue and maybe that's why they saw it as him being relieved but I don't know um but now that he was safely in custody
he began telling to telling detectives just every detail about the murders and they said and this is why I kind of like
go back and forth he was almost boasting about how he'd found the women and lured
them to their death well what I was gonna say too actually and it's perfect that you just said that maybe he was
also like in a weird way excited that this was all gonna like he was finally gonna get his
big moment and finally he was gonna be seen by women across the world and that were going to be afraid of him yeah you
know maybe that was the reason I could definitely see that it was a relief of I'm Not Invisible anymore yeah
absolutely because he did mention before he wanted to do something different right and he wanted to be famous and
then here you go yup now the evidence in the toolbox according to him was kept so
that if he was ever caught he would be convicted um he said I quote I didn't have the
guts enough to give myself up I wanted to but I just couldn't this of course was a lie like I don't
believe that's a lie I he did not keep now that was according to him remember yeah he did not keep that toolbox just
to get convicted that's not what that was he wanted to try Harvey that was trophies that was you because you were
reliving them you wanted to open it you wanted to touch it you wanted to think about it you wanted to be back at that
place shut the [ __ ] up with this I wanted to be convicted I just didn't have the guts to determine shut up shut
up yeah just admit that you're a disgusting little worm person and that you like to open this toolbox and touch
all the things that you had taken from these women and look at these photographs of them in their last
moments and go back to that moment and go back to that moment just admit it you disgusting little worm yeah admit it but
he won't he's gonna sit there and pretend that he just wanted to get caught and this it's ridiculous
now Harvey was determined not to go back to prison he definitely didn't he immediately asked for the death penalty
he was like I don't want to I don't want a prison sentence okay uh it's not really about what you want right now
but cool so after the confession he agreed to take the detectives out to the desert into the crude grave sites of
Shirley and Ruth I'm glad to remember Judy was found and were they able to be like put to a final resting place they
were but when they did unearth The Remains the San Diego coroner Al Gallagher said that the remains were
quote little more than a bag of bones that's really which is very sad now on November 5th 1958 he was taken to
the San Diego County Sheriff's Office and he kept right on confessing but this time they recorded it so they have a
whole record of it he went through the details of each murder how he did it and he insisted he had two motives and this
is when he talks about this he said quote my primary motive I did want to take some pictures
which is like that's not a motive dude like that's not your gross nothing like you can take photos and not murder
people he said but aside from that I was interested in having sexual relations relations
wow so you were interested in raping exactly why don't you why don't you call it what it is because you can have
sexual relations if you build a relationship with somebody which like you should have taken a crack at that
but you never literally never did and that's what kills me it's like you're an idiot because it's like you you even
signed up for a lonely hearts thing you could have you went out with Shirley you
were on a date with her if you had liked her she seemed like a nice nice woman you could have gone on several dates and
you could have gotten to know each other and then she would have been comfortable
maybe becoming more intimate with you later that's how you do things he wanted what he wanted he wanted and he wanted
to take it exactly and it's like [ __ ] you stop calling it sexual relations that's not say you wanted to rape women
because you didn't want to have sex with them no because if you did you would have formulated a relationship and had
consensual sex with people yup but no you wanted to take it you wanted to rape exactly you disgusting a little worm but
he went into such a scary movie he's so disgusting he went into graphic detail he included his [ __ ] thoughts about
the how he thought some of the women enjoyed themselves with him that's so [ __ ] Beyond so foul so foul like wow
he said he didn't use a gun because it he didn't use a gun to kill them because it would be traced back to his gun and
he said strangling left less physical evidence I also don't necessarily think that's true I think I don't think so I
think he maybe discovered that along the way but I think no matter what the Rope
would have been involved somehow because it had been involved since he was three
years old ding ding ding that's literally my next thing he just it was a fetish yeah this was his fetish yeah a
dangerous one and like this was one that was like Beyond right and sure I'm sure
he realized like when he got that gun you know oh I probably shouldn't shoot this because it could be traced back to
me but that was the primary that wasn't the the exactly like the primary thing was he enjoyed using a rope that's how
that's how he likes to do it yeah that's like it's and you know what he had that
since like that pre-election since he was very young right obviously like you said I don't even think he he might not
have even recognized that that was what it was yeah but it that was what it was exactly it absolutely was but the
confession went on for hours until he had finally given every single detail of the crimes against the four women and
then he was returned to his cell where he was immediately put on suicide watch because he had made several comments
about potentially killing himself right now from the moment he was arrested San Diego and Los Angeles prosecutors
constantly had to worry about him taking his own life because he was constantly talking about it and
they were also worried about him making a pretty convincing bid for the insanity
defense yeah they were worried about that um and they didn't want him to possibly
win his freedom back no no no no no no no no so Ophelia actually prior to his arraignment Ophelia his mom visited him
in jail and on her way out of the jail she said to the Press talk to any of the people in the jail he is not Vicious
he's sick Ophelia don't say anything Ophelia I say so much less if that's what you're going to say he's not
vicious don't say anything so disrespectful to anyone who was related to one of those women who were
viciously attacked viciously raped and viciously murdered he spent on his own admission five to ten minutes strangling
them until there was no signs of life that in and of itself that little like that's not a little part of what he did
but that small piece of the full operation is vicious so vicious and he's a rapist exactly he's a rapist Ophelia
the entire operation abducting women is vicious like come on like I understand it's yourself or his mother and I
understand you wanting to say he is sick because in some sense he is sick and if
you want to just like sit around and say that to yourself to get by and make the
days go on by all means but don't put that into the public like where it's going to be like eaten up and don't
you'd report it on say he is not vicious no to the Press like don't say it that is just because he is that is minimizing
yeah like that's really [ __ ] such an insane level and don't say talk to any of the people in the jail I've said this
once I'll say it again Ophelia there's no women in that jail right he's in a jail with men right of course he's not
[ __ ] up in there why don't we talk to Lorraine and find out if he's vicious because she [ __ ] lived that you want
to ask her about it you want to look at the probably scar on her leg from when he shot her in the [ __ ] leg and he's
not vicious it's like come on man like girly girl I know I it's one of those things like I know you're his mother
yeah and I know that he's like yeah he is sick and I know this is a loss you know ins this is a tragedy for you as
well this is your child who has done this and I understand again saying he's sick yeah and I'm you know well you do
you whatever but just because he's not vicious that's like whoa dude like don't do that
[Music] so on November 8th 1958 a grand jury convened in the San Diego Courthouse
County Courthouse and he was indicted for the March 9th murder of Shirley Ann bridgeford and
July 24th murder of Ruth Mercado okay a few weeks later on November 21st he appeared before Judge John I think it's
hewicker in Department four of Superior Court he pled guilty and the sentencing was deferred until a later date but we
all knew that he was asking for the death penalty now again this was a death penalty case
that's what they were that was that was what was on the table so there was going
to be a lot of red tape Galore but in the meantime Ophelia just kept talking about Harvey
just being girl shy and not understanding how to be around one I don't think he's girl shy I think he's
raped several women at this point I don't really know if I would call that shy yeah and she was just ignoring the
assaults and robberies he had committed over the years just minimizing the straight up murder that he had committed
that's [ __ ] and Dr JP Hilton that first psychiatrist that evaluated Harvey when he was a child he actually wrote to
the probation officer and he said that yeah he did have trouble with women and said that he had become increasingly
aggressive towards females as he grew older so you know felia is trying to minimize and
this doctor's like uh yeah sure he does have trouble with women but that's making him aggressive towards them yeah
so they tried very hard to prove that he was simply mentally ill and not competent to stand trial but it wasn't
working okay good he was very clearly anti-social and very delusional yeah that is for sure but he was clear when
he was questioned you know that the before committing the murders he said that he was feeling some kind of way
about it right that alone is you saying I know what I was doing was wrong yeah but I went ahead and did it anyway
that's you saying I have a clear idea of what's right and wrong but I decided to
do it anyway and now I feel bad exactly like you he sold himself down the river even when he was lying so on December 15
1958 he appeared in the superior court for the sentencing and he definitely he told his lawyers do not
stop me from getting the death penalty but legally they had an obligation about some kind of Defense they couldn't just
be like sure so to make it harder to do that the prosecutor William Lowe he learned all about his criminal past you
know how dangerous he was to society when he was in New York how he was like the Phantom and like all that and they
presented a great case with all the confessions Witnesses they included testimony from Lorraine vigil in the end
he was found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder and again he wanted to be executed at the earliest possible
date but neither Harvey nor his attorney had anything to say when the verdict was
given they were like I'm not speaking because I don't want to be executed what are you going to say at that point
anyway like even I'm sorry but it's too but he's not even gonna say that judge hewicker actually had a lot to say
though I love when the judge has a lot to say yeah he had been sitting here he had listened to the entire entire thing
he heard the detailed descriptions of how he had murdered these women and after everything had gone down he said
this I know there are a lot of people people in high places that don't believe in capital punishment now if life
imprisonment in California meant life imprisonment that would be one thing life imprisonment in this state means
confinement for seven years or more and when I say more it depends on the past record of the defendant if a law could
be passed and placed in the Constitution so that each legislature couldn't come along and modify it if they made life
imprisonment life imprisonment without the possibility or of Pardon or parole that would be one thing but we don't
have that we will never have it and there are some crimes that are so revolting that in my opinion there is
only one penalty that can be imposed and that penalty is the death penalty yeah which I understand what he's saying
about the life imprisonment thing I do too because I mean we've said this a million times about we're gray yeah that
we're gray on the I'm leaning more towards against it but I I do get that that it's like yeah it would be nice if
life imprisonment was a thing for these [ __ ] but a lot of times that's not yeah even when you get sentenced to life
it's not even life exactly and so after this was said the clerk said Harvey Murray glattman you are have heretofore
been charged in an indictment by the grand jury of this County to which you have heretofore entered a plea of guilty
as to both counts and it is ordered that the death sentence be imposed Harvey was
sent to San Quentin prison in uh January 1959 he sat on death row but we know that's never the end because any death
penalty case triggers an automatic appeal to be heard from the Superior Court his was found was heard by the
Supreme Court of uh California on June 5th 1959. so he did appeal it's like an automatic appeal oh yeah here's an
automatic appeal they reviewed the evidence they found that there was no error in anything no they upheld
everything at 10 A.M on September 18 1959 he was led from his cell to the gas chamber at San Quentin he was seated
strapped into a chair at 10 03 am the cyanide tab was dropped releasing gas into the room he apparently according to
Witnesses started inhaling very deeply people think that that was probably the reason for and what happens in these
scenarios is you just kind of watched the pulse go sure and it plummeted he was pronounced dead at 10 12 a.m so from
1003 to 10 12 is how long it took that's not very long I don't know how long these those things normally take but I
was like whoa so that was the end of Harvey glattman bye but if you remember throughout the
second half of the if you remember I'm like if you remember throughout the second half of the 20th century I can't
remember that I think I do yeah California became a place of lots of serial killers right cray in the bright
bright many serial killers and a lot of times as we got later and later they got
those crazy you know monikers in the Press when we couldn't identify them and it kind of was like an epidemic like it
seemed like for a while but in 1958 when all this was going on nobody really could even conceive of a harvey glattman
you know like this this was a monster that we had not yet studied and not yet understood yeah not that we were going
to understand but obviously he eventually got a nickname like the glamor girl Slayer because
everybody always attributes a nickname to it but when it was going on he really it wasn't a huge story it was like it
was a big story but it wasn't what it would be now it wasn't sensationalized or what it would be in like the 70s or
the 80s you know like any of those but in April of 1954 after he had been released then this episode before he had
started this Killing Spree yeah it was after he had been released from sing-sing okay and before he'd moved
from California that little span of time yeah yeah there was a body discovered oh
[ __ ] in that span of time where he was out of prison not in California and this
body was discovered in Boulder Hills which is just a short drive from Denver if you remember he was living in
Colorado yeah so this was a nude body of a young woman this woman was a Jane Doe
for more than 50 years oh my God until 2008 when investigators in Colorado said that they were tentatively identifying
her as Catherine E ferrand Dyer which was a young woman who lived in a Denver boarding house not far from where Harvey
was staying with his parents oh [ __ ] now the investigation had been reported a
short time earlier after various exchanges of information on a public message board that linked this Jane Doe
to Harvey gladman people were starting to talk about it the reason was the timeline fit the
methods fit and a lot of The Facts of the case were fitting facts like Jane Doe had been hit by a car just shortly
before her death and the measurements of the vehicle were the exact match of Henry of Harvey's car at the time wow
and even more to add to that when you're like hit by a car like yeah because I'm
like what during his interrogation in Orange County detectives asked Harvey about his time in Colorado and he
explained that he had photographed some women in Colorado while in Denver and when detectives the detectives were
basically like are they dead or are they alive did you leave them alive he was like no they were mostly he's like I
think they were all alive and then he smirked and said unless they've been run over oh
yep oh sh unless they've been run over and this girl was hit by a car why would you
like why would he say that like and he smirked wow add to this the newly conducted
autopsy found that the young woman had been bound at the wrist and ankles in exactly the same way that he would bind
his other victims right and it's fits his Mo but obviously Harvey had been long dead by this time by the time she's
identified and it kind of seemed like they were never gonna connect the necessary dots but a year after Colorado
detectives first said that they identified this body that this is wild the real Catherine Dyer
was found alive in in Queensland Australia okay so they had falsely identified this
now apparently at this point care workers were preparing to move this woman they
knew as Barbara into an assisted living facility when they did that they came across a ton of items that belonged to
someone named Catherine Dyer they dug a little deeper and they learned that Barbara was in fact
Catherine Dyer she had disappeared from Colorado more than a half century earlier and they
were like what the [ __ ] is going on but she wouldn't talk about it like she didn't want to say why she had
disappeared she didn't want to say any of that so there was a press briefing on this story and Boulder detective uh
Steve Ainsworth said Catherine Dyer was quote quite a mysterious person even before she disappeared there is not a
lot known about her life I think for some reason she didn't want to be found okay now that's interesting so you're
like wow okay what's happening in and of itself now Ainsworth that detective he remained committed to identifying this
Boulder Falls Jane Doe and in June in the fall of 2019 or excuse me fall of 2009 through DNA technology he was able
to identify the remains as Dorothy gay Howard who was a 16 year old runaway from Phoenix Arizona 16. yep it was
actually in 2004 that historian historian Sylvia pettum took to the like she took some interest in this case yeah
Jane Doe and she asked if they could exhume the Jane Doe's body and she was able to get her like they
were able to do it like official permission to do it and then they were able to reconstruct what she looked like
and when they did that they published this reconstruction in an article um with like Sylvia's stuff about it and
it was seen by Dorothy's grand niece Michelle that's how she was found to be that because she was like that's Dorothy
like she had no other story about her and she got in touch with authorities gave her DNA they connected them and
were able to identify this Jane Doe that and so was she definitely murdered by Harvey they think now Ainsworth so
that's the problem so Ainsworth believes Dorothy had run away that's why she was
in Colorado she ran away from um her husband in Phoenix like a bad situation and had come to Denver to visit an aunt
and a week later she disappeared Without a Trace now they said around this time scores of
women and girls had banished around this time in Boulder Canyon the majority of which are unsolved wow officials truly
believe she is a victim of Harvey glattman and they have not been able to confirm it unless they got run over he
didn't say like he unless they got like he was talking about multiple people so maybe he changed his I would be willing
to bet that some of these women are some of his first kills wow I would be willing to bet that that's the thing
because even like the first one in California he did seem to know what he was doing and he did seem to have
confidence and that's the thing and like Tay and he like went right to her apartment even yeah Judy and dull
it seemed like he was pretty confident like you said like he I think you're right I think he had done
this before in some other capacity yeah and he found what worked wow because the fact that he drove her
out to the desert this guy drove like a hundred miles away right to the desert he had the blanket in his back in his
trunk he had the Rope he had it all set up he did the same thing for each one he
had done that and figured it out why did he did he did leave Colorado pretty abruptly that's what I was thinking why
did you leave right he had he really had no reason to go out to California he left because he figured he could do it
out there now wow and because he'd already been arrested in Cal in in Colorado and he had already photographed
women in Colorado right so he had already started that whole shtick so I got to start somewhere and it's like now
he knows if he goes to La he can get even more women even easier through that whole stick holy [ __ ] so he had
perfected his way I guarantee you I'm like let's DNA test these but like let's figure this out I need to like
nail this [ __ ] with more people because I want to know I know he's done more such a wild story
yeah I I know this story and like I knew most of it but I did not know about that
last piece that is another victim that could potentially many of that Art Is It just fits Too Perfect the fact that like
the fact she was hit by a car and it matched the measurements of his car the fact that she was bound in exactly the
same way she was very pretty and then he said that and then the fact that he said
he had photographed women in Colorado and he had left them alive unless they got hit by a car like are you [ __ ]
like why would you pull that out of your ass like why did he say that Holy he said that because he knows you're not
going to catch him [ __ ] Harvey glattman damn disgusting little worm boy bye [ __ ] bye Harvey wow
I feel like I need something like spooky after that I know oh I was crazy I need
some spooky I'll do a listener tail yeah we'll get a listener tail between there
perfect but then you're getting more Carnage so yeah stay tuned a rough one yeah so stay tuned I like a sad one it's
a very different murder case my next my next case that's unfortunate yeah yeah you know yeah but um yeah so we hope
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Part two of Harvey Glatman is here and it is wild! When we last left you Harvey had just murdered Ruth Mercado and was ready and absolutely set on the idea of abducting his next victim. He hit up a modeling agency to find his next victim, but little did he know, he got much more than he bargained for. The next woman Harvey abducted and attempted to murder would be the one to end his entire reign of terror.

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Brief Summary

Harvey Glatman's chilling crimes and capture are detailed, focusing on his interactions with victims and the police investigation.

Key points

Spiritual Awakening. A personal revelation about seeing angel numbers and dreams.
Harvey's Pattern of Violence. Discussion about a serial killer's disturbing methods and lack of remorse.
Lorraine's Last Job. A young woman unknowingly steps into danger when she accepts a modeling gig.
The Fight for Survival. Lorraine bravely fights back against Harvey, grabbing the gun in a desperate struggle.
A Cop Arrives Just in Time. Patrolman Thomas Mulligan intervenes during a violent struggle between Harvey and Lorraine.
Harvey's True Intentions Revealed. Harvey admits to planning to sexually assault Lorraine, revealing his dangerous mindset.

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Episode quotes

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