Episode 730: Listener Tales 104: Your Grandparents Might Be Criminals! | Forensic Files

flaw. >> All right, where are we? Hey, what? Where are we? We're in the pod lab.
We're going to record this. [laughter] That's a legit question. I'm so tired. You just said Why'd she say where are
we? Where are we? >> We're in the pod [laughter] lab. Put that in somewhere. That's funny.
Hey weirdos, I'm Miranda. >> [laughter] >> And I'm Coraline Jones. That [laughter] was so deeply upsetting.
And that's all. Just kidding. It's morbid. >> [laughter and gasps] >> It's morbid. Can you do that again?
I don't want you to, but I also want you to. >> I'm Coraline Jones. I said it with a
good accent the first time. >> Yeah, the Um, that's crazy. Yeah. Oh, you're going to be like pleathering all
over the place, I just realized. ASMR. Can't believe she's wearing pleather. [laughter]
In fall of 2025. Listen, it's raining, okay? >> That's not in my newest >> It's raining? Not in my newest print
here. I don't give a [ __ ] I'm Coraline Jones, [ __ ] >> like >> [laughter] >> Hello.
I was going to say, nice cerulean hair. >> [snorts] >> It's blue. [laughter] It's not just blue. You're not my mom.
Okay. [laughter] I'm your other mother. My Or as my youngest would say, the other mother.
>> The other mother. Uh, hey. >> [laughter] >> We both got really bad sleep scores last
night on our aura rings, so this is going to be good. Is that It really is. But, here we are. Coraline Jones
and [laughter] Miranda Priestly. Which also, I didn't even plan this to be as topical as it is. You originally were
going to be somebody else. >> Yeah, which I'm going to be next week. And I'm going to pivot, yeah, to be
something even funnier. Yep. Um, but I said to Elena before we got started here, I said I've never felt more like
[laughter] myself. >> I looked over at Ash and I just was like something about this works. Like, I
think everything about this works. >> Thank you. I just looked over and I was like, that's right. Yeah, that's
correct. I feel great right now. >> As you should. >> I don't know that I'd ever get this
haircut. I'm not saying it's a bad haircut. It's I just Maybe you will. You don't know. I don't know. Who knows
the future? Not >> You know, cuz you look great. >> Thank you. >> So. Thank you. It would be a lot to
style this haircut [laughter] every day, I feel. That's how you Then you get older and you get it styled. Oh, yes,
yes. >> That's your luxury. Oh, god, I can't wait for that luxury. We say all the
time we should start doing that. >> I would love to do Well, you know why? Cuz we have [clears throat] to redo your
listener tales, and that's important, too. Because listener tales are brought to you by Wait, should I do it in
Miranda Priestly voice? >> Yes. Brought to you by you, for you, from you, and all about you. That's all.
That's all. I love saying that. I used to There was a girl on my softball team, and her and
I would do that all the time. >> That's all. That's all. That's all. I love when you say
It's outside. >> Softball is played outside, correct? >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, for sure. I like when he
says, um, you've become an incubus of viral plague. I say that all the time. >> Yeah. Anytime one of my kids gets sick,
I'm like, uh, you're an incubus of viral plague. I need to rewatch The Devil Wears Prada.
I haven't seen it in forever. >> Yeah, cuz the new one is being filmed, isn't it? I think it's done. Oh, it's
done? >> a mini tr- It's not People say the trailer came out. Sorry, my glove broke and I'm upset about it.
Um It's really like a teaser. I haven't even seen the teaser. >> I haven't either. I just heard that it
came out. [laughter] Maybe it's a lie. It's not. They watched it on Sup, and I was listening. It's
not. >> [laughter] >> I heard it on Sup, it's real. >> Sup said it's real, okay?
>> Sup said it's real, so it's real. >> believe Carrie and Lara. >> Yeah, we do. We do. I need to
Hold on. Thank you. You're welcome. That's [laughter] all. All right, so should I start?
>> Yeah. Let's start. Start >> with a listener tale. How about that? I think that's the best way to start.
>> So, this one's called The Chained Man, and shut the [ __ ] up, Ash. You're a Gemini, so of course it's always about
you. How do I know? Because I'm a Gemini, too. I was offended when I first started reading this. I was like, wow,
is this hate mail? And then I was like, oh, you, too? Okay. >> Imagine if it was just like The Chained
Man, and shut the [ __ ] up, Ash. Yeah. I'd fight you. Yeah. Oh my god, thank you.
>> I would. >> Elena would fight you. I would. You guys think that Well, not you guys, but some
people think that Elena is mean to me, but if anybody's actually mean to me, she'll pummel them.
>> Yeah, I'll kill you. >> Helga Pataki. >> Hello. That would be such a good listener tales
costume. >> Helga Pataki. >> yeah. I'm storing that in my vault. In the vault. Yep, in the vault. Listen to The
Rewatcher. All right, please listen to it. It's unhinged and hilarious. Sorry. >> Ew.
On me? [cough and clears throat] You're an incubus of a plague. >> I am an incubus of viral plague.
Let me start with, yes, use my name. I will have a literal heart attack when, not if, I hear it on the pod. Good thing
both my kiddo and husband know CPR. >> [laughter] >> Like we said, no sleep scores.
Hello. >> [laughter] >> It says that. It says, "Haha." That's It's actually lowercase, though.
>> [laughter] >> I took it as that. The girl. What? >> That's how I read it. Get your butts ready, because here's the
smoke. That's what it says. >> [laughter] >> I know how I'm reading it. >> [clears throat]
>> Thank you for making my >> [laughter] >> Is it because you're dressed like a little kid that you're like absolutely
[ __ ] unhinged? [laughter] Maybe. [gasps] You're just like, "LOL." It's past my
bedtime. >> [laughter] >> It is past my bedtime. I need a nap. It is past my bedtime right now. I got a
bad sleep score. >> [laughter] >> It says, "Thank you," in all capital letters. >> You're welcome.
for making my hour-long commute way more enjoyable. But I have to not listen to the episodes I really want to listen to,
because my 13-year-old is in the car with me. I love your podcast so much, and that's coming from someone who has
been anti-podcast for years. >> Anti-podcast? >> Well, for my Due to my inability to
maintain focus on anything longer than 30 seconds. Thanks, ADHD. >> Relatable. My sister introduced me to
you with a story from my home state, New Mexico. And now all I want to talk about
It's all I want to talk about. No, you're all I want to talk about. [laughter] I can't.
Don't even edit any of this. I would just leave this crazy [laughter] [ __ ] in. Leave it all in. Leave it
in. Um, but >> [laughter] >> My My kid just turned around and literally went Did [laughter] I do something bad? No,
you didn't. She's just [ __ ] crazy right now. I'm a feral [snorts] child. [laughter]
>> You didn't do that. It was adorable. >> Um, did I do something bad? Anti-podcast, [snorts]
ADHD, >> New Mexico. >> And now you're all I want to talk about. I can't because I work with kids, but
you're all my husband hears about now. And based on the few stories I read from New Mexico, yes, we have a ton of
flushed pedestrians, chupacabras, both of which I've seen, and tons of ghosts. We are super haunted state. Come visit.
Just don't whistle. I won't. Did you know about that? Isn't that in the Appalachians, too?
Yeah, I think that's everywhere. I just think whistling is [ __ ] up. >> I hate whistling.
>> You know? I'm not somebody who really whistles. Drew loves to whistle. >> I love to whistle, actually.
>> like whistling. I had a boss that had a whistle. It was like, it sounds really
awful, but it was like necessary if like we were in another If I was in another part of the salon, he had to whistle to
get my attention. But now when I whistle, I'm like, "What?" Like when I hear a whistle. I love to whistle, but I
won't do it in the Appalachians or in New Mexico. Do you know I don't even know if I've ever heard you whistle? No,
I'm not calling you out saying you don't whistle. That was a good whistle. I can do an out
whistle or an in whistle. Oh, see, I can only do an in whistle. But out? >> [whistles]
>> My out is way way better. My in is the only one that works. That's the only one I got.
[laughter] That's all I got. I got one whistle. >> and that's it. Um, Ash, Geminis are always the center
of attention, so shoulder shrug. Heck and shame. Oh, well, for everyone else, we're the coolest. Yeah, we [ __ ] are.
That's right. Whatever. Elena, I'm also very short. Good job. 5 foot [laughter] and proud.
Good job. Says the Capricorn. 5 foot and proud. And if I ever get tired of teaching, currently I'm teaching fifth
grade, and I'm a CPR instructor. I want to go to school for mortuary sciences. All right, you're
>> You're pretty [ __ ] cool. See? All right, >> [snorts] >> you're pretty [ __ ] cool.
>> That's a win for both of us. >> Anyways, I've included a 14-point double-spaced portfolio, a picture of my
sons on Halloween, and a picture of my family when I was a baby. I want to start by saying that my mom was the most
beautiful and kind person you could meet. She made and kept friends wherever she went. It's been almost 20 years
since she passed, and her photo is still hanging up in the office she worked at.
>> Aw. Her best friend basically acts as my mom now, and she's also supportive and
amazing. But she isn't going to be part of this story. Will she be part of the next one?
>> Maybe. My mom was special, and I don't mean that as in, she's my mommy, so of
course she is special, but she had an electric quality to her. She had this radiating energy that people felt. She
drew people towards her. Touch, he said. You know what he said before we began recording? It was actually so weird.
>> I got up and went to look at the thing, and as I turned around, he said, "Younger." And like, Elena looks
younger. In case you didn't get that. Wow. Oh, he's crazy. It was weird. [laughter]
Imagine if he was like, "Old bitch," to me. >> I love it. Which was extra funny because
she rebuilt computers for low-income kids in her free time. This was the late '90s, so no need to worry much about the
internet. Bading bading. Ee ee ee ee >> [laughter] >> I knew exactly what that was.
>> Oh my god, and that shows our age difference, because this is That's literally the reason I made you read
this. >> Bading bading. What's the biding biding? Like before it started. When I first read this, I was like, I
don't know what that means, but I know Elena will, so that's why I forced you to read this.
We are one. Also, I don't wait, I don't know your name. Oh, yeah. Probably says at the end.
Hold on a minute. It's our new system cuz we're like putting these on the TV so we can read them. We're figuring it
out. Oh, Rose. Such a pretty name. But that's a beautiful name. Rose. I freaking love you.
I freaking love you. Another important fact about her electric quality was that anytime she left the house after dark,
the street lights would turn off when she drove under them and then turn back on once she had passed.
She was interdimensional. [ __ ] yeah, she was. And while it may seem random, my
mom's favorite jeans had a strip of piano key fabric down the side of one leg. We have no pictures of my mom in
these pants. Remember this. I'm interested. You've hooked me. You got me with the piano pants. I got to
tell you. You hooked me with those piano pants and the street lights. Yeah, the street light I mean Yeah. And the
interdimensional. You just really got me. You got me, Rose. Yeah. She was also followed by number 23 to be specific.
She was born on the 23rd, died on the 23rd, had two 10s and three 1s in her wallet when she died. Her social added
up to 23 and she found some mathematical equation to make her name Belen add up to 23. Isn't that crazy? That's also a
cool name. Yeah. I will try to make it short, but I know you won't care. This starts when my mom was a kid, so I
don't remember every detail I was told, but I remember enough to still get the chills when I think about it. I almost
burst. I'm [clears throat] sorry, everybody. My mom >> [laughter] >> My mom grew up in a very haunted house
in downtown Santa Fe, New Mexico. We found out that the woman who had originally owned the home murdered her
two children and hung their bodies on the porch Yeah. before killing herself after she had learned her husband had
died in war. That's like hella tragic. That's [ __ ] up. It's really [ __ ] up. The little boy was killed in the bathtub
and would frequently climb out of the horse? Like war? War [laughter] horse? Yeah, sure.
You guys just get each other. Yeah, we do. Me and Nicholas forever. He would frequently climb out of the bathtub to
flush the toilet. Like in the afterlife. Yeah, and would playfully chase my uncle
around the house and then hide from him. My uncle is 12 years younger than my mom
and did not realize this boy was a ghost until he was much older. Well, that's so
[ __ ] spooky. We don't know exactly where the girl was killed, but my mom slept in her room for years. My mom
would have a dream of a man chained in her closet. Ew. My mom would wake up in her dream to his
moans and she would get out of bed, feed him, bathe him, and keep him company until
morning when it was time to really wake up. Huh. That's something. Where are you looking?
Anywhere but there. >> [laughter] >> Anywhere but Anywhere but there. What the [ __ ]
That's wild. Okay. My mom never told me if she asked why he was chained [laughter] up. I mean, that's valid. But
she didn't need to know. She never really felt threatened by him. I'm going to be honest with you. My first question
to him would be How'd you find yourself in this predicament, sir? Yeah, that's You got
to ask the hard-hitting questions. >> [laughter] >> Those are important questions. She
didn't feel threatened, though. She said during these years she was exhausted and
felt like she was actually awake during these dreams. After years of caring for him
he asked my mom if she could unlock the chains because he had earned her trust. She did. No. In turn he [snorts] locked
her in the chains. [ __ ] And until she had moved out of the house, she would wake up in her dream to
the sound of her own moans and chained in the closet. So she would wake up chained in the closet kind of, but not
and also in her bed hearing herself in the closet. I hate that. you wake up to a man chained
in your closet moaning Call the police. First First ask him, "Sir, how did you find yourself in this predicament?"
actually secondly after you call the police. This feels like a pickle, sir. How'd you get into it? Yeah. And then
then go from there. You know, go from there. You call the police. Every time I had to go to this home, I
couldn't sleep. I [ __ ] wonder why. >> [laughter] >> Thankfully, my grandma sold it long
before I stopped talking to her for offering me $500 to get an abortion. That's [ __ ] up. Damn. I am not
anti-abortion, but I am anti let me tell you what to do, which is all my grandmother does. [laughter] Tell your
grandma to [ __ ] off. It's true. Anyhoo, weird things for my mom didn't end It didn't end there. She had seen numerous
ghosts throughout her lifetime, but the chain man still gives me chills. Yeah, me too. Yeah. My mom was diagnosed with
breast cancer when I was in sixth grade. That's awful. I'm sorry. Went into remission and then diagnosed with bone
cancer on my first day of freshman year in August of 2003. Which also 2003. Yeah.
Two and three. She had to stop working and became miserable [clears throat] even though she hid it from my sisters
and I as best she could. Her sister decided to take her to Hawaii for 2 weeks in
November 2003 because my mom was born there, but had not been back since she was two. Literally exact same. You're
like, "Girly." When they were on their way back with a pit stop in LA because that's where my
aunt lived. I wonder if that's LA or Louisiana. I don't know. I don't know. Probably LA
because that's on the way back from Oh, true. My mom took a fall on the plane and had to be rushed to the ER. They
found that the cancer had spread to her brain. My grandmother flew me out to LA to say goodbye. That's so sad. That's so
sad. During the time I was there, my mom slowly became less and less aware as her
body deteriorated and shut down. During this time, she said she could see a gold
light coming from the other side of the wall. She felt its warmth and she wanted
to get closer to the person the light was radiated from. She also kept talking to the empty chairs. She would say
things to them as if she could see all her children as babies sitting there bathing in the gold light and waiting
for her to make her journey to the other side. I have such like chill like a not
even chills like the warm. Oh. Isn't it crazy? Like do you You follow those like nurses on uh Tik
like hospice nurses? And they all say the same things. Like There's such a progression of when somebody is dying
and like everybody like across the board talks to things that you can't see. people that aren't there. But it's like
they're clearly having actual conversations. And it's like across the board. And a lot of times it's like
people who have died. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's weird. There's something. There's something. The very last time
she was lucid, she looked at me and said, "I love you, sweetie." She passed away a few hours later. I was 14. That's
also First of all, I'm so sorry that you lost your mom at such a young age. And that's also the crazy part of when
people pass is they'll go into these moments where like lucid completely. They're completely lucid after just
being somewhere else entirely. It's so crazy. When I was 16, I had one of my best friends, Xstina, read
Christina, spend the night. We had decided to invite another one of our friends because she was a little
depressed and we wanted to be there for her. Let's call her Luna. Aw, that's a cool name. I like that name. We were
hanging out in my room listening to music, eating snacks, and giggling over boys. Those were the days. Luna got the
sudden urge to go out to the kitchen and get some water. She said it had to be in
a glass and it had to be from the fridge. We love a girl who knows what she wants. Hydration is important. When
she came back and she didn't have water and her face was white. She said there's
a woman in the living room who wanted to see me. I feel like uh what? like that's a no
for me. Yeah. We walked out there cautiously because the only other person home was my dad and he had been asleep
for hours at this point. We walked into the empty living room and Luna then realizes that she is looking at the
ghost of my mother. She said her long brown hair was resting on the chair she was sitting in and her jeans had piano
keys on them. Because remember, there was no picture with the piano key jeans. Yeah, so that was such a specific
detail. I immediately started crying as Luna repeats the words I have held dear and close to my heart, "I love you,
sweetie." She then says, "Look for the number." Oh, [ __ ] Luna becomes quiet as
I He's hiding, he just said. It's really not nice to ruin a sentimental moment like that. That's
wild. That's a little reckless. That's wild. It's a little reckless, in fact. Wow. Um but question, who's hiding?
Nicholas. He said that last time, too. Yeah, who is like something of similar Yeah, you're right, he did. Yeah. Who is
it? I have palo santo this room so many times. to do it again. Yeah. Luna becomes quiet as I softly sob. It was
probably actually a loud ugly cry. After a few minutes, Luna then looks around and asks why we're in the living room.
We tell her everything that happened and she has no memory of any of it. That's [ __ ] crazy. remember wanting water in
a glass from the fridge, the only thing my mother ever drank. Oh, [ __ ] Wow. A few years passed and now I am 19 and
pregnant. On my drive over to tell my father the news, every single car that passed me had a 23 on their license
plate. My goosebumps will not go away. Now every time I have big news, passing my GED test, getting divorced from my
very first my first son's dad, getting married to my current husband, getting pregnant again, graduating college,
becoming a teacher. What about us? I know. Okay, accomplishments, mama. I see 23
constantly. This has also happened when I have had big bad news. My father died of liver failure in 2015. I'm sorry.
When we got his ashes back, his ashes tag was 5873. 5 + 8 + 7 + 3 is you guessed it, 23. Is
this my mother telling me that she's there and still supporting me from the afterlife? Yes, it is.
The morning after my father died, a friend of mine called me crying. She said she had a dream of two women
carrying my father's soul away. Ooh, I got a chill. She described my mother and my paternal grandmother perfectly, even
though she had never seen a picture of either of them. If I'm driving and feeling nervous
because it's a big DUI party night or something just feels off, streetlights will turn off. The night The night that
streetlights don't turn off, I will not cannot keep driving. And numerous times there have been near fatal or near fatal
accidents near a route I would have been driving. That's crazy. >> I have numerous small stories like this
and thank my mother every single time. My kids have both giggled uncontrollably at her photos like they play with her
often and know she is with a was a big goofball and only wanted people to be happy.
>> Aw. >> I guess I will end this now by saying keep it weird, but not so weird that
you're a creepy ghost man in chains in a young girl's closet. Earn her trust and
then lock her in the chains when she frees you. But also do keep it so weird that you send your children signs as a
ghost and make your grandbabies laugh uncontrollably even though you never got to meet them.
>> Aw. >> Rose. That's a crazy and beautiful story. >> That was unbelievable. That was
terrifying and really beautiful. >> And touching, yeah. >> it. >> That hit like every
>> Damn. >> Every one. That hit every bone in my bod. And hit all of my all of my body
that is just made of bones. I loved it. All right, my next one is listener tale,
that time that I pissed on a rapist MacBook Pro. I'm in. I'm obsessed. >> I'm in. Good afternoon, spooky sisters.
>> Good afternoon. >> Literally perfect because it is afternoon. It is. >> Please find my double-spaced 14-point
PDF attached. I adore y'all and hope you enjoy this tale. Please pick me, Deb Deb.
>> She did. >> She did. Hello, my lovely witches. My name is Sam and my pronouns are she, her, and hers.
Thank you. >> Sam. >> Hello, Sam. You can use my name because there are a billion Sams out there. You
can use the other names in this story because one of them also has a super common name like mine. I actually
married someone with the same name as his. Haha. Haha. >> a long time listener, maybe like 3
years, I don't know. But I was with y'all underwater if you know what I mean. >> Hell yeah. That's a that's a true blue.
Yeah. Uh I'm writing from Elena's favorite place in the world, Nola. >> Nola. >> We love to hear it.
>> Nawlins. >> Here comes the gushy mushy love. I truly adore y'all. Elena, I read your book in
like 2 days. >> Aw, thank you. >> It was so incredible. The twist. >> The twist.
>> I was mind-blown emoji. Aw, I love it. >> Same, that's a great [ __ ] twist. Uh
I'm just really proud of you and so happy you get you get to influence so many people with your badass story.
>> Aw, thank you. >> So sweet. >> That was really nice. >> Ash, congrats on your engagement. I got
That's so funny because it's actually almost my 2-year anniversary. >> kidding me? It's like a couple of days
away. Um I got married a little over a year ago now and my best piece of advice is to try to not be super stressed out
all day. Once the actual day comes, there will very likely be things that didn't go as planned. It's hard when you
spend so much time and money to be honest, but there's literally nothing you can do about it. So go get your mans
and know that everything works out how it's meant to. Aw, that was really nice. >> so nice. And you know what it did? Like
there was like very minimal things that went wrong, but when they did, I was like I just want to marry Drew.
>> Yeah. That was your best advice that you gave me, too. For example, it literally
rained on all my guests as they waited for me to walk down the aisle. And of course, the rain stopped just for me.
I felt bad for my guests, but like I can't control the weather. Sorry, guys. >> [laughter]
>> Anyway, time for my actual tale. It's a bit of a mix. Uh kind of funny at the
beginning, but gets very serious and [ __ ] up at the end. Please do enjoy my double-spaced PDF and I hope y'all enjoy
it. I'm ready. >> We're going to enjoy the [ __ ] out of it. In 2010, I started at the University of
Georgia, present college football national champions. Woo! Sorry, I had to. >> [laughter]
>> I don't know what that means, but all right. You guys go. I joined a sorority.
I love [laughter] the sorority. >> it like that, like with the uppercase lowercase letters. Which was pretty
common in big southern schools back then. From a quick Google search, about 29% of the students at UGA join. That's
crazy. Anyhoo, I got invited to go to a frat party with one of my best friends from high school, Billy. Billy has also
come out since college, which seems like an unnecessary fact, but plays into the
story because I definitely felt super safe with him and we were not sexually attracted to each other. [laughter]
'Twas platonic. I love it. So, I go to the party, I drink a ton, we go back to Billy's dorm.
Did you say I'm from here? >> here. Like you're from like Massachusetts? Please confirm. Yeah, let us know.
They're here. Who's here? Tell us who's here, please. Hello? Let us know who's here.
So, I go to the party, drink a ton, and we go back to Billy's dorm at some point in
the middle of the night. Okay, so why didn't I go back to my own dorm? I don't know. Definitely wasn't trying to [ __ ]
Billy, but I guess I just didn't want the night to end. Definitely wasn't trying to [ __ ] Billy. I love it, for
sure. Who knows? Not me. >> [laughter] >> Probably because I was so [ __ ] up that
Billy wanted to make sure I was safe and he wasn't allowed to go in my dorm. Okay. Aw, Billy's a good guy.
>> He is a good guy. Now I need to go back up Now I need to back up a bit and give
y'all a little info on my dorm room. I chose my dorm because it was one of the only dorm buildings that had their own
sinks. All of the dorms on campus had community bathrooms, but only two or three of the super small dorms had their
own sinks, which was one of mine. The other huge dorms didn't have sinks, but they were cooler for some reason. I
don't know. So I stayed with my friends in the cool in the cool dorms fairly often, but when I did stay in my own
dorm and I had to go pee in the middle of the night because I drank like a fish pretty much every [ __ ] day of
college, I used to pee in my own sink. Vomit emoji times a thousand. It's very shameful to admit this as [laughter] a
grown woman, but I promise you everyone was doing it in college. I hope. >> He said [laughter] I hope so. He said I
hope you have shame. I hope you're ashamed. How dare you? Aw, Nicholas. I promise you everyone was
doing it in college. We were repulsive. We were living off Four Lokos and ramen noodles. We had just left our parents'
houses for the first time in our lives. We were wild animals. >> Holy [ __ ] >> You can judge me. Hell, I'm judging me.
Also, yeah, I had a roommate. She hated me. I would have hated me, too. Sorry, Kay.
>> [laughter] >> And yes, this is the same sink that we brushed our teeth in. I know.
I know. I know. I know. I'm trash. [laughter] Okay, so now that's over, I can get on
with my story. I woke up in the middle of the night in Billy's dorm and I really had to pee. I'm half asleep and
I'm still wasted as [ __ ] So I go to Billy's roommate's desk where his open laptop was sitting. And I
And I stand up on his desk chair, turn around, pull down my pants, squat, and piss [laughter] all over his roommate's
open laptop. >> [laughter] >> And then she goes She goes, "Yep, I did that." Yep,
[laughter] I did that. How do I know I did How do I know I did that? Well, honestly, I don't. I don't
remember it at all. I woke up the next morning to Billy's roommate, whose name is Butch, shouting that one of us had
spilled a drink all over his laptop. In some form. >> Yeah, maybe. >> Yeah. Butch immediately started Or no,
I'm sorry. Billy immediately started apologizing and so did I. We told him we would pay for it. I changed into some of
Billy's sweats. Shocker, clothes were like a badge of honor back in the day. So weird.
I'm obsessed. College is such a wild time. It is. >> And we left to go to the dining hall for
breakfast. The second we closed the door, Billy goes, "Sam, you peed on his laptop last night." I was like, "What
the [ __ ] No, I didn't." >> And he was like, "Dude, I saw you in the middle of the night go pee on it." And I
was like, "What the fuck?" At this point I had known Billy for a long ass time and I knew he wasn't lying and I
realized that that laptop, unfortunately, was located in the same spot as my sink was located in my dorm.
I love that he's just like Girl, I saw you pee on that laptop. What a [ __ ] solid ass friend though because he was
like, "Damn, sorry that we spilled a drink on that. Like our bad." >> it, he's like, "Yo, I saw you piss on
that laptop." >> He's like, "Hey, [ __ ] what were you doing?" Okay, so I need to figure out Okay, so
now I need to figure out how to pay for this piss computer as a broke college kid
>> [laughter] >> who can't tell her single mom that she was blackout drunk and pissed on a
$2,000 computer. So I tell Butch that I'm sorry I spilled a drink on his computer and I was going to have to try
to find random jobs to pay him back for it. I just feel like I didn't do it. Yeah, I'd be like I don't know what
you're talking about. That's your [ __ ] laptop and your [ __ ] problem. He agrees and goes and gets a rental
laptop. Well, let's just say waiting tables at the local watering super creepy old men wasn't making that $2,000
happen very quickly. Yeah, honestly. I had only saved up a few hundred dollars before I get a call
from the dean of something important as [ __ ] from UGA telling me if I didn't pay
this guy back in some super short ass amount of time that he would be pressing charges that may lead to my expulsion.
>> Aw, what a piece of [ __ ] >> like for spilling a drink? Like come on. Like [ __ ] off.
>> Like sure, you pissed on the laptop, but he didn't know that at first. >> know that. Although maybe he figured it
out and then that's when he was like, "I'm going to press charges." Yeah. [laughter] What the [ __ ] Turns out that
Butch's dad was some super entitled [ __ ] who literally thinks that he can do anything to anyone.
>> So I cried a ton and I called my mom and I had to tell her everything. She lent
me $2,000 and I tried to give it to Butch. And then this [ __ ] has the audacity to tell me I also have to pay
for his rental laptop. >> Aw, [ __ ] that. >> Yeah, [ __ ] that a whole a whole bunch.
Okay, y'all, I know that's fair, but it was No, it's not. It was super super hard for my mom to even find $2,000. And
I knew that Butch's family was rich as [ __ ] so it just felt icky. It is. [ __ ] them. I called my mom back,
I got another $800 or something for the rental laptop, and I finally paid back Butch for the water damage.
>> Water damage. Hey, maybe you were really hydrated. It was probably a lot of water.
Well, actually, you weren't. Oh, never mind. I go on with my life. I eventually pay my mom back and all is good. About a
year later, I move out of the dorms and into the sort. Did you say I'm moving? Where you Well, because you're not cuz
you're from here, but I'm not moving. >> moving? Where are you going? Where are you going? Don't go to Georgia. This
This gal might piss on your laptop. Don't leave me. If you have one. Let me know where you're going.
>> really bonded, huh? It's crazy. >> [laughter] >> All right. So, fast forward I moved out
of the dorms into the sorority house. I got a call from Billy and I was like, what the [ __ ] We don't call, we text.
Calling is like super cringe. >> Honestly, yeah. >> It is. Don't call me. So, I either
thought that one of our high school friends had died or something or that Billy was just butt dialing me, but I
picked up. Billy, Sam, Butch got arrested for raping a girl. Me, holy [ __ ] Me, huh? Billy, check your phone.
Me, opens article to the news story. I'm [clears throat] vomiting. Not actually, but my body was convulsing and
my heart was racing. For those who can't see this article, Butch is shown with bloody claw marks all over his face. He
attacked a girl and attempted to rape her on a sidewalk at 2:30 a.m. on a Monday.
>> Oh my god. >> And then trying to flee the police dove butt ass naked into a lake to try to get
away. What a [ __ ] vile piece of garbage. >> [ __ ] that guy. He didn't get away. I
love that he He didn't. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't He didn't get away. The part that infuriates me beyond belief is that
because his dad is super rich and is has friends with connections or something, Butch only had to go to jail for a few
days. >> Oh, [ __ ] that. >> was let out on $10,000 bond and all he had to do was was serve community
service and be on probation. What the [ __ ] >> What the [ __ ] indeed. >> It still [ __ ] with me that I slept in
the same room as this monster. I'm not ignorant to the fact that a broken laptop is nothing compared to what could
have happened. To conclude, [ __ ] you, Butch. That wasn't a spilled drink. That
was my piss. >> Hell yeah. It's like I pissed on your laptop. >> [laughter] >> on your laptop. [ __ ] that. I love y'all
so much and I hope y'all keep it weird, but not so weird that you use your sink as a toilet because you're a lazy piece
of trash. P.S. Let me know if you want to hear the story about how I saw my first not in a cadaver lab dead body the
night before my wedding. >> Of course I would hear that. >> Yes. Would you even have to ask?
>> Yeah, come on. P.P.S. Here's a cute picture of me and my Will during our second line at our wedding in Nola. And
of course, a pic of our cute little puppa puppy Kota on our wedding day. I know.
>> [laughter] >> Nicholas was like, I know. I I know your dog, Kota. It's been so
great. >> [laughter] >> I loved your wedding. >> I loved your wedding. Holy [ __ ] Sam.
>> That was such a good story, Sam. >> I am wow. Fantastic universe and his laptop.
>> Yeah, some What the [ __ ] You need to tell me what that says. Shovel. Shovel?
The way that you just like I need to shimmy. That was I needed to know what that was.
>> I love that. >> Thank you. You literally said I will find [laughter] out. >> I said I'm going to find out. I keep
that in, please. That was great. Wow. Sam, yeah, the universe just knew that you should have pissed on that guy's
laptop. I can't believe you pissed in your sink, girl, but you know, we've all done some gross [ __ ] Yeah, I had no
idea that pissing in a sink was such a common occurrence. I was a trash human for a really, really long time and I
never pissed in a sink. >> Damn. I pissed outdoors. >> She really just called you out. Yeah,
I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. >> She said me, I was a trash human, but I never was that trashy.
>> But like non-derogatory. >> Miranda Priestly. >> Who was? It's like not me. Couldn't be
me. I wasn't that trashy. I wasn't that trashy, Sam. Just kidding, we love you, Sam. We love you, Sam. We
[ __ ] love you, Sam. It literally Can you do the slither again? I can't get through. Oh, you took your
sweater with you. I did. >> It's actually super weird because my I don't even know if you can see that.
>> [laughter] >> I'm telling you a story. It's my lover. Okay. >> [laughter] >> I don't know if you can see this on the
video. You can leave this in. But I'm in a really a place of leaving it in. This
just keeps getting lowered. I'm trying to talk. I'm sorry that you're sad. You can get
through to us. Are you pushing my microphone down though cuz as I'm telling stories it's like going
lower and lower, I think. >> Maybe it is, Nicholas. You trying to get our attention? Nicholas. What's going
on, Nicholas? Don't be sad. We got your back, homie. >> Yeah, we love you, Nicholas. Big love.
Nicholas for life. Uh okay, so that was amazing, [laughter] Sam. Uh and now we have listener tale.
Hoarders have secrets. Hoarders have secrets. I've never seen that show on TLC. >> No, that sounds like a great show.
Hoarders have secrets. >> I know. Period. I would watch that cuz I can't watch the TLC one. It's so sad.
>> No, it's awful. >> Yeah, so sad. >> Yeah. Hi you two beautiful humans. Also, shout
out to Deb Deb. Now, my name is Casey and you can use it. >> that name. >> Smiley face.
I submitted this listener tale previously, but was a complete hot mess and it did up not attaching the story.
Face palm. We all do that sometimes. >> However, I'm proud of actually writing it down and have my mother's blessing to
share with the world through your podcast. I love your show and await eagerly for each episode to drop. It's
the only thing that gets me through folding laundry. In my head, we are true best friends.
>> We are. You've also introduced me to Buffy. Although the episodes weren't coming out fast enough to keep up with
me binging the series. Sorry, not sorry. Uh it was so hard for me to not do that.
>> Oh, yeah. Anyways, and now we're on to True Blood. You should listen to it. We
watched it with you. >> Anyways, please enjoy the attached double space putefa. Please advise that
I've also attached pictures of a real life severed finger and proceed at your own risk in viewing. I appreciate that.
I think it's awesome though. I've also attached a picture of my fur baby who just turned one.
>> HBD, fur baby. Hello, you can use my name, Casey. I can't believe you're actually reading this. We are.
>> for years and I'm a big fan. Currently planning a tattoo in in commemoration.
I could not say that word of mine and your weirdness. I love that. >> Hell yeah, let's see it.
>> I haven't written any >> Let's see it. Let's see your tattoo, Casey. >> We want to see the commemoration.
>> to see it. Stop. Commemorate and show us. You [music] are getting a tattoo. I know I had it, but it was finished.
>> I had a bad sleep score. [laughter] I had a bad sleep score. >> so mean She is. Everyone thinks that I'm
mean. >> [laughter] >> I can be a little mean. She's being very Miranda Priestly today. I'm
[clears throat] channeling the energy. >> You were. You're method acting. I haven't written anything in years as I
am a college dropout and it is not required at my job. I get it. >> some grace in the grammar and run-on
sentences. Also, this story is still developing as the years roll by, so this is as it stands now. Damn. To be honest,
I don't think I ever had a listener tale to contribute until my friend gave me a
dumb [ __ ] moment and reminded me of this tale. Small disclaimer, the part of my extended family in this story is in
no way a reflection of my immediate family and my mom has overcome so much mental turbulence from them and her
childhood abuse. >> Aw. >> Aw. I'm happy that she's overcome it. >> I'm sorry that she experienced it. I'm
from a town in Utah where me and my high school sweetheart raise our fur baby. My
mom grew up in a more rural town 30 minutes south of where we are now. My grandma and grandpa had become had
become special needs foster parents and eventually adopted eight kids. >> Damn. Good for
Yeah, that was in two in addition to the original five kids they already had that
included my mom. Her childhood was rough for many reasons. Wait, I'm so sorry. Is
that 13 kids? It's a lot of kids. Yeah. Yeah, I just did quick math. Look at me.
Whoa. Her childhood was rough for many reasons including she was the only girl of all boys and my grandma had an
addiction to hoarding. I'm talking like TLC series level of hoarding. Let us fast forward to a couple of years ago
and my grandma's health was rapidly declining. I'm only going to spare some of the details as I would don't want to
steal from the true point of this story, but her with her needing a lot of assistance and the condition of the
house was in, my mom opted to put her in a care facility. With that her out of the house, my grandpa's health health
was also not the best and having four of my special needs uncles in the house, he
also needed a lot of assistance. That's a lot. >> That is. >> sister [clears throat] and I took on the
responsibility of taking dinners down, taking them to appointments and even started shoveling the garbage out that
they had that had overtaken the home. >> Oh, that's awful. >> to the point where my poor grandpa
couldn't do it on his own anymore and after my grandma passed away, he went to the assisted living facility as well.
That's like so sad, but I'm also so glad that he got to live in like a clean place at the end of his life.
>> Exactly. With everyone out of the house, we began work on cleaning out the house
to figure out if it was even possible to sell or if we would have to demolish it
and sell the land. Let me tell you, it was not for the squeamish. Aw. >> For years my mom tried to give us a
relationship with my grandparents and we would often go down to visit even if we
had to stand by the front door because there was nowhere else to go. >> Oh, wow.
>> I had built up a tolerance for the smell and and disaster. However, there were
parts of that house that not even my mom had seen in 30 years. >> Oh my god. >> can get buried in that amount of time.
It took 17 dumpsters of garbage to get through the first three rooms and that is just what my family was able to
accomplish. Animal trigger warning. Aw. We did find several dead cats and lots of rats. That always happens on that TLC
show and that's a big part of why I can't watch it. >> One room was filled from floor to
ceiling with clothes mixed with human feces. >> Oh, man. Don't mean to overshare and
gross you out. Just trying to convey the nastiness that was there and the condition in which they were living in.
It's sad. It's a mental illness. It is. We ended up being so overwhelmed emotionally and physically by the job
that my mom and her oldest brother made the decision to sell the house as is. Some very talented and determined DIYers
bought it and picked up where we left off. >> Wow, that's remarkable. I didn't even
know you could do that. >> know that either. Where does the true crime start in all this, you may ask?
>> I'm asking. Here's the part of the story that we're all here for. Well, we were
they were in the middle of renovating to the in the cold storage basement that nobody had access to in years, they
found a freaking severed finger. Pictures are attached if you can handle it. What?
>> Girl, I can handle it. We know you can. I I just got to see it. [laughter] >> can. It was preserved pretty well from
my non-medical opinion in a small glass jar. Preserved? >> jar. Hello? >> After taking some pictures and reporting
it to the police, small town, so likely nothing will come of this, we promptly went to visit my grandpa to see what the
hell he knew about this. He told us that he had seen it before, but he he didn't
know what to do with it, so he just put it back and didn't say anything to anyone. Grandpa!
I'm tired of this grandpa. [laughter] >> I'm tired of this grandpa. And he said,
"Well, that's too bad." >> too too damn bad." "That's my severed finger." It's not.
>> Wow. >> That's the problem. [laughter] >> It's not his severed finger. >> He then refused to talk about it any
further. What? >> [laughter] >> My grandpa was a more quiet person and was definitely not the dominant
personality in my grand >> [laughter] >> The way you just keep doing it so fast.
>> annoying. Annoying? Is it annoying that he was quiet? >> Yeah, it's annoying that he wouldn't he
wouldn't tell. Exactly. Nicholas, I got to say >> Nice to grandpa, though. Uh he was not the dominant personality
in my grandparents marriage. When we were getting stories for my grandma's funeral, her sister mentioned several
times that he would just go along with whatever plan or manipulation she had going at the time.
>> Yikes. "Was he afraid of my grandma?" I now find myself asking. Turns out it wasn't the first off-color thing to
happen in that house. Oh, man. As I mentioned earlier, my grandparents fostered many special needs kids and
adults. Hold on to your butts. One of the little girls went missing shortly after arriving in their custody. Oh.
My mom was younger, so she doesn't know if she just ran away or something else happened. In fact, the girl's family
would drive by my grandparents' house when they were outside on the porch and stare them down. Oh.
>> The family was convinced that they did something to her, even though there was
nothing to suggest foul play. But because it was the '80s, nothing was really done about it to find out either
way. Was that the kid's finger? Is it a kid's finger? Actually, it's probably not. More It
looks more like an adult I didn't even I literally was reading along with you, but I didn't even see the next part. I
[laughter] swear. >> Was it a kid's finger? >> The way you just answered >> Actually, it's probably not. Looks more
like an adult size, but still, someone, apparently me, is the only one asking these things. My mom had to deal with
all of this along with the passing of my grandma, which brought up some conflicting feelings what from her own
childhood trauma of things that I can't even scratch the surface of. >> My mom is superwoman strong. Aw. So many
questions, some of which are, who is missing this finger? Who put said finger in a jar? Why did nobody question the
girl's disappearance? Are my grandparents criminals? >> Yes. I [laughter] know this isn't the
most exciting >> Pause right there. Babe, we know a lot of We No, no, no, here's the thing. We
don't know a lot of things, but one thing is for sure, your grandparents are criminals.
And that's the name of this episode. Listener tales, your grip >> [laughter] >> Stop coughing at me. It's so funny. Do
you need water? Do you have some? Yeah, hold on, I have some water. >> [bell] >> Are my grandparents criminals? Yes. I
know this isn't the most exciting listener tale you've gotten. >> it's pretty up there. Yeah. But I
finally had something to contribute. It was also fun to write this down as it became a good party anecdote, which is
how it got the name the lone phalange. >> [laughter] >> The lone phalange. A lone phalange.
>> I like Solange better. It's a little French. Thanks for letting me share. >> You betcha.
>> Keep it weird, but not so weird that you had a severed finger in your cold storage and not tell anyone about it.
Also, don't keep it so weird that your foster kid runs away and nobody cares. And don't keep it so weird that you have
a hoarder house that could be full of other possible human body parts. Bye. That was heavy, babe.
That was heavy, [laughter] babe. I look over and you're just like I'm just I'm just lost in thought. Lost in the
sauce. This is [laughter] some That's some other mother [ __ ] >> That is some other mother [ __ ]
>> other mother [ __ ] >> [ __ ] crazy. >> Damn. That's [snorts] wild. Again, >> your grandparents [laughter] are
criminals. Yeah, your grandparents are criminals, babe. Holy [ __ ] Uh what? Hopefully I've been the watching so many
of Ryan Lill's TikToks lately. Ryan Lill is one of the funniest humans on the planet.
>> And also one of the sweetest humans. >> All of the above. If you don't follow
Ryan Lill, get Ryan Lill Washington, follow him on everything. Follow him, buy his
>> books, Into the Pines. Oh, so good. Our quotes are on them. It's true. All right. So, listener tale for listener
tale, not all ghosts are evil. Agreed. I Yeah. Right, Nicholas? Right? >> Hello, weird and wonderful ladies. First
of all, thank you for your captivating content. >> You're welcome. And for your equally captivating and
often hilarious personalities. You are great. >> Thank you. I don't listen to a lot of
podcasts, only two, you and Mr. Ballen. >> Okay, Mr. Ballen. Mr. Ballen just came
over to Sirius. Yeah. From Wondery. >> Came to the good place. Stumbling across one of your listener tales was what got
me hooked. My name is Mark. Feel free to use it and any other names mentioned in
this tale. >> Mark. >> I am 65 years old and I no longer give a [ __ ] about what people think.
>> Mark, I literally love you. >> Mark, I turned 65 today and I [laughter] also don't care what people think.
>> a [ __ ] So, that's great. >> If you're not watching this, that's so confusing for you.
>> It's true. You're Trust me, it makes sense. Mark, I love you. All right. So, okay, on with my tale. I would truly
like your point of view as to if the spirits in this tale are evil or if they're trying to be protective. This
story is 100% true. I know because it happened to my wife, my son, and myself back in 1975. Hell yeah. We will call
this moved in, moved out 2 days later. Okay. >> of 1975, my wife Angela and I were
expecting our firstborn and in expectation of his arrival had just purchased our first home. Aw. Then
that's beautiful. Congrats retroactively. Yeah. The night before we were to to due to move in, my wife went
into labor. Our son came into the world at 3:56 a.m. Amazingly, I remember every
detail of that night and the following 2 days as if it was today. Mark, I never gave you permission to make me cry like
that. >> Seriously, never change. The morning after his birth, I gathered a few friends and moved all our crap over to
our new home. This took all day and I didn't have time to set everything up, so I put a mattress on the floor in the
bedroom and set our son's crib next to it. The rest of the stuff was piled against the walls and sliding glass
doors, which is important later in the story. Angela and Johnny were released from the
hospital that evening. So, I locked up the house and went to pick them up, then stopped for dinner
with our friends Scott and Debbie. After dinner, the four of us returned to the new house. When we went to go in, I
noticed the front door was unlocked. >> Oop. I know when I left that I locked all the doors and the windows. I
shrugged it off as being the real estate agent just checking up. >> Ooh. Angie put our son to sleep in his crib,
uh and the four of us adults visited and drank a few brews until around 11:00 p.m. when Scott and Debbie headed home.
I locked the front doors, two locks, handle and bolt, and we went to bed. As newborns do, our son woke up at around
2:00 a.m. screaming to be fed. Uh before I could get up to get him, I felt movement on my wife's side of the bed
and heard my son quiet down. Assuming my wife had handled the situation, I went back to sleep. Uh well, you know about
assuming. It makes an ass out of you and me. It does. It does. I found out the next day how true that was. I woke up
before my wife headed to the kitchen to make coffee. To my pleasant surprise, it
was already brewed and waiting. Aw. Again, assuming my wife had woken up early and started the coffee and what
then went back to bed, I poured a cup and turned to go into the living room to sit and drink my coffee. That's when I
noticed it, baby powder. Splotches of baby powder were going from the coffee pot through the kitchen, out
the living room, beyond the still locked front door and into the driveway. Or sorry, the still locked front door and
into the driveway. I checked through the house and all the doors and windows were still locked. It
was strange, to say the least, >> Yeah. but beyond the type of prank that my friends would pull, so I didn't let
it get to me until or sorry, not beyond the type of prank that my friends would pull. So, you're thinking maybe this is
your friends. I didn't let it get to me until later that evening. What that that evening,
Scott, Debbie, and two other friends all met up for dinner. As we were sitting having a casual conversation as we ate,
I asked Scott if he was in the baby in on the baby powder prank. His response was, "Baby powder? What are you talking
about?" That told me he was not in on it. Oh, no. I proceeded to tell him about it and he couldn't figure out how
it was done either, but it was a few minutes later that sent chills down my spine and made me question my sanity.
When my wife thanked me for getting up to care for our son at 2:00 a.m. and for putting him in bed with us,
I was stunned speechless. How do I handle this? Do I tell her that I didn't get up and take care of our son, let
alone put him in bed beside her? She would freak out and think that I was lying or [ __ ] with her.
So, I just sat there nodding my head in stunned silence. >> Honestly, that's probably smart in that
situation. Yeah, cuz she's literally like a brand new mom. >> you're just like, "Hey, you know."
>> of people, yeah. So, we returned home around 9:00 that night and found nothing out of the
ordinary. Doors and window sills were still locked. Or sorry, I keep reading sills as still.
It's my own fault. Doors and windows still locked. Our bed frame and box spring leaned securely against the
sliding glass door leading to our carport, so I didn't worry too much about the strange things that had
happened, telling myself that there was a logical explanation for it. It's important at this point to inject the
fact that we had earlier that day unpacked a lot of our belongings and had put up shelves and pictures in the
living room and the bedroom. One of the shelves I had installed was above Johnny's crib and held an array of
bedtime story books and stuffed animals, toys, etc. The installed shelves in the
room Did he say bright? Bright? Bright. Bright? >> Yeah. Hm. Hm. I don't know what that
means, Nicholas. Do you think we have bright energy? Yeah. You're bright today, for sure.
>> Um so, hold on, I just lost my place. One of the shelves I had installed was above Johnny's crib and held crib and
held an array of bedtime storybooks and stuffed animals, toys, etc. The installed shelves in the living room
held our collection of fantasy figures, crystal dragons, carved wood wizards, and various Dungeons and Dragons games
equip game equipment. You guys sound awesome. Truly. >> Okay. On to what caused us to move out
the next day and put the house back on the market. >> it's like two days later. >> I forgot that it that was it, too. Angie
put our son to bed and her and I snuggled on the couch and watched a movie before going to bed. I slept hard
that night. Didn't hear our son wake up for his 2:00 a.m. feeding or his diaper changes. I woke early,
uh 5:00 a.m., and got up to make coffee and surprise my wife with breakfast in bed. Mark.
>> A good man. I noticed upon getting up that our son was sound asleep snuggled against his mother. I saw no baby powder
this morning. However, the coffee was already brewed and mine and Angie's coffee cups were set beside the coffee
maker along with the sugar bowl and the creamer. I chose to ignore this and I just made breakfast. Oh, biscuits and
gravy, eggs, ham, and English muffins with butter and jam. >> Holy [ __ ] Mark. >> is a lucky lady.
>> [laughter] >> I [ __ ] love biscuits and gravy. Uh I placed Angie's breakfast on a tray
with a cup of coffee uh prepared to her taste. Listen to this. I mean, Mark. >> A dream.
>> Mark forever. >> I picked up the tray and I turned to go to the bedroom and almost dropped the
tray because on the floor, not more than 3 ft away from me, sat a single red long-stemmed rose in the center of a
ring of, you guessed it, baby powder. >> What the [ __ ] But like this is so nice.
>> It's all so lovely. >> It's so nice. Like is this is this ghost making you coffee in the
morning because like >> No, he literally he or she literally is. >> That's sick.
>> And they also tended to your baby in the night, perhaps twice. This is impulse
behavior, to be honest. But also is it being nice to like lure you into a sense of trust?
>> I don't trust it. >> Yeah, I don't know. I squatted down and I picked up the rose. Oh, sorry, I skipped a sentence. I
know that there was no one else in the house and Angie and Johnny were still sound asleep. So, I squatted down and
picked up the rose, placing it on the tray and mumbling a thank you under my breath to whoever provided it.
>> that he's just like thank >> He's like, yeah, we'll go with this. Yeah, appreciate it.
>> [laughter] >> I love and I love that they were just like, here, babe. Add this to the
coffee. >> You need this. This This is the piece de resistance. >> Yeah, of course. I love that.
>> So, I took the tray into Angie, woke her up with a kiss, and gave her the tray.
Being very careful not to wake Johnny, I picked him up and put him back in the crib. I gave Angie a good morning kiss
and went to get my breakfast. And as I entered the kitchen, I noticed that the circle of baby powder was gone with no
sign of it ever existing. What the [ __ ] That's insane. I picked up my breakfast and joined
Angie. We ate and talked about things that newly married couples discussed until we had finished eating and John
woke up needing a diaper change. I took the trays and dirty dishes into the kitchen as Angie placed Johnny on the
bed to change him. I put the dishes in the sink and rinsed them. Then I unlocked the front door. That's when I
heard Angie's bewildered call for me. I went into the room and I saw Angie holding Johnny tight to her and staring
at the crib. I turned my gaze from Angie to the crib and what I witnessed was as
a new parent, terrifying. Oh. In the center of the crib, exactly where my son had been moments ago, was stacked all of
our books. Not just the bedtime stories, but Dungeons and Dragons books as well.
Angie and I stared at each other for a moment and I could see the fear in her eyes. I took Johnny from her and told
her to get dressed. I swear that was the quickest I have ever seen any woman get
dressed. >> Oh my god. >> Within 10 minutes we were in the car and headed to Scott and Debbie's house. What
the [ __ ] >> While Angie stayed inside Angie and Johnny stayed inside with Debbie, Scott
and I returned to the house to get a few needed items and lock up. When we entered the bedroom to grab the diaper
bag and bottles, we noticed that the shelves the shelf was torn from the wall and was
in the crib as well. And the bottom of it had collapsed and was on the floor. I have goosebumps all down my arms and
legs right now. >> What's so weird is that we're like, wow, this is like really nice. And then we're
like, I don't trust it though. And then that's when it got real dark. What the [ __ ] Oh, I don't like this at all.
Scott and I just looked at each other, grabbed what we needed, and left quickly, almost forgetting to lock up.
If our son had been in the crib, he would have been crushed. >> Yeah. I didn't know until later that
night, the night before, neither Angie and I had neither Angie or I had gotten up and put Johnny in bed with us or had
gotten him his bottle, which was on the bed when Scott and I had returned. What the [ __ ] It almost feels like
there's like two energies at play Like one of them was trying to get him out of the crib.
>> Yeah. >> was not a safe place. >> Yeah. Damn. >> What the [ __ ] >> Yeah. We didn't go back and put the house on
the market that same day. Like we didn't go back to the house and we put it on the market that same day.
So, that's my tale. What do you think? There's no doubt that there was a spirit in that house, but was it potentially
harmful or was it a protective spirit? You decide. I think there was two. I think there was two.
>> At least. I think Yeah. I think there was two or I think there was one that was like I said earlier,
like trying to lure you into a sense of trust and calm and then like [ __ ] with
you for some reason. >> But I think like they're moving the baby, so it's like I don't I think there
was two. I think one was trying to cause damage. >> Yeah, I know. I don't I Yeah.
Ugh. Damn. Okay, so thank you so much for reading my tale and stay weird, but not so weird that a ghost prepares your
coffee for you and then moves your child only to nearly crush him and spreads baby powder all over your house. Looking
forward to future podcasts full of your unique outlook and humor. Aw. >> the great work. A loyal listener and
fellow weirdo, Mark. P.S. I apologize. Yeah, thank you. I apologize for the long story.
>> Never do. But sometimes the details make the story. They really do. Follow up.
Recently I visited that town in Oregon and out of curiosity I drove past the house. It was still there. In the front
yard was a young couple and their daughter. The couple were about the same higher? I think so.
Is he taking it to a place of creed? Nicholas wants us to take him higher? He does. I don't know.
>> [clears throat] >> The couple were about the same age as my wife and I had been when we purchased
this house and their daughter was about 5 years old. I stopped, introduced myself, and explained that many years
ago I had purchased that house and explained to the couple what we had experienced and I was curious if they
had any similar experiences in the house. The young woman chuckled and said, "You're talking about Mabel."
[ __ ] Mabel. >> Hello. >> Tell me about Mabel. >> I was dumbfounded. She went on to say
that Mabel had been a huge help over the 5 years that they lived there. That more
than one she kept them safe from everything from a fire in the basement to a break-in. It seems I may have
jumped the gun on moving out. Um Mabel, they had discovered, had been a young single mother who was the original owner
of the house and had passed away in the late 50s in a car accident. Her newborn child had survived the accident and was
raised by her grandparents. And get ready for it, was in fact the young woman's grandmother. Holy [ __ ] Yep, her
mother's mother was in fact the very spirit that to this day takes care of their family and keeps them safe.
>> I love this. >> They intend on never moving and will pass the house on to their daughter when
she's old enough. >> And Mabel will take care of her. That was the most beautiful place to end that
listener tale, Mark. >> Mark, you just gave me full chills. >> Yeah, that's a beautiful story.
So, it was it was just one energy who was like I don't know, Mark. Maybe you messed up
>> a weird little yucky energy that Mabel was trying to get rid of. >> Yeah, maybe that's what it was. I was
about to tell you you just messed up when you installed the shelves. >> Yeah, maybe. I mean, maybe the shelves
are that as well. Shelves are are hard. I also when Nicholas, cuz you've talked about a fire that they she saved them
from a fire, I wanted to see if he said higher or fire. Go ahead. Slither down. I'll slither down.
Imagine if he said fire. It was higher. Higher? Well, you I don't know. Yeah, I think he took it to a place of
creed. >> He did. That's okay. Wow, guys, that was a solid ass batch of listener tales.
>> a really solid batch of listener tales. We had the mom turning off the streetlights. We had a peeing on a
rapist computer. >> Hell yeah. >> We had [ __ ] Mark out here making ghost breakfast. We had chained up men
in closets. >> Chained up men in closets. Oh, we had severed [ __ ] fingers. I think my that was my trauma
of that story just like protecting me. You were like, forget about that. No, we had severed fingers.
>> Yeah, we had severed fingers. Those were great. Yeah, I love them. You guys rock.
>> You rock. Out loud. We got Mark, we got Sam, we got Rose. >> Casey, we got Casey.
>> Rose. Boom. You guys rock out loud. We love you and we hope you keep listening
and we hope you keep Vanessa, we're that you don't send your listener tales in to
morbidpodcast@gmail.com. Please make them a pun if I and I don't know, make a snappy headline. Keep
sending them cuz these are too fun. >> They're the best. We love this. >> We never want to run out.
>> And we'll see you next month with a pretty solid set of costumes. >> Pretty solid. And with that we leave
you. Goodbye. >> [music] >> Mhm.

We COULDN"T skip Listener Tales this month, so we HAD to give it to you one week early, so prepare for a batch of tales that are brought to you BY you, FOR you, FROM you and ALLLLL about you! Today we have stories of parents visiting from beyond the grave, a bladder that served up karma BEFORE a garbage human showed who he is, the mystery of a severed finger, and house that was DEFINITELY haunted!

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Brief Summary

Listeners share spooky tales of haunted homes, a laptop incident, and a protective spirit.

Key points

Interdimensional Mother. A touching reflection on a mother's electric presence and her unique experiences.
The Chained Man. A listener shares a haunting story about her mother's experiences with ghosts and a chained man in her dreams.
Heartfelt Goodbye. A daughter recalls her mother's final moments and the warmth of her love before passing.
Encountering the Ghost. Luna sees the ghost of the narrator's mother, leading to an emotional moment.
Signs from Beyond. The narrator reflects on the significance of the number 23 in her life.
The Laptop Incident. A drunken mistake leads to a costly and embarrassing situation for the narrator.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

You're an incubus of viral plague.

A humorous remark about illness.

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Tension

60/ 100Some tension

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