Curses: Micah Rood & The Omen | Morbid | Forensic Files

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because we meant to do this earlier but then we got pissed off and we were like I don't want to do an episode pissed off
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but she has been like promoting it with this snippet of it oh my God it will every time she posts it people are like
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[ __ ] sunroof do you know that about me so good that I love to like sing out the sunroof it's my favorite
thing ever but Drew gets so mad at me usually it's because I after it's like after a couple of drinks when we're on
our way home from somewhere and he's like get your head in the sunroof you idiot it's like that or say that to me
but like you know but I want to sing this song out the sun room hell yeah I wanna we are gonna blast that song in
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Mikey got these new like window clings for our skylights because our skylights are always just like a menace they're
always bathing us in a very harsh light and we're always like ow ow so much he was like let me fix that and he got
these clings that make rainbows all over the room when the Sun hits it and it is
so wondrous and magical and Whimsical and it makes me so happy it's iconic and now when they're even when the light is
coming in harshly it doesn't feel harsh because it's like well it's a rainbow because it's a rainbow so I mean some
people would be mad at that but not me but not that not the kind of people we want to hang out with no doesn't matter
I'm about to go buy all the Bud Lights with the rainbows I [ __ ] love Dylan Mulvaney I don't even like beer and I
would literally go buy all of them exactly the end so there's that rainbows chinchilla chin
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Bud regular too I was gonna say it doesn't have to be light I don't think it's it's like the blue cans though are
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why the [ __ ] not what are you gonna talk about today Bish so we've hit some gnarly ones some gnarly cases lately and
we've also um got some lined up that are gonna blow your socks off so our anniversary is
coming up our five year anniversary and we've got quite we got something planned we have a
couple things and it's something a lot of people have asked for for five full years and mama has been holding on to it
waiting for the right time and it's a great time but we've got so even before that we have some really gnarly intense
yeah pretty Bleak cases but ones that for sure need to be told of course but we figured we
would kind of do a quick little little mind reset here yeah this is still pretty gnarly but like in a different
way yeah uh we wanted to do an episode about random curses yay so do you ever just wake up and say I want to hear
about random curses you know who doesn't and you know the first one I will do has
murder in it it has ghost stories in it it has a curse in it has apples in it it's called multifaceted looking yeah
but it's got a true it's got several True Crime elements to it actually and then the second one I'm gonna do because
this is just going to be two random you know stories that have to do with curses
is the curse of the movie The Omen which you might have heard that there's a curse with the omen but when you really
dig into it that [ __ ] is wild good gnarly yeah super canarly so the first one we're gonna do is the curse of Micah
Rood Micah or Mike but it's Micah Micah but yeah but it got turned into Mike later
down the road oh because that's what we do you know that's weird we just make everything shorter I like the name Micah
I do too so Micah Rood also referred to as Mike sometimes in several literatures
everybody has a nickname you know he was a farmer in what is now Franklin Connecticut in the 1720s it's my cat's
name so New England head place you know what I'm saying while he was alive this place his farm
was known as Nine Mile Square or Norwich West Farms Micah was the youngest of at
least nine children too many so he came from a little bit of chaos um he himself was known for at least a
time to be a very nice man but he developed some issues later that maybe explained when you take a look at his
family oh okay so Micah's father his name was Thomas Rood I'd like to give a quick little trigger warning we
are going to mention incest oh horrible he Thomas rude so Micah's father was charged and convicted for incest oh he
allegedly impregnated his own daughter Sarah and she told the town officials herself
they'd become a little sus when they saw that Sarah being unwed in the 1720s had
a new baby and so she was asked about it and she confessed and admitted that the
baby was biologically her father's child and I guess technically his grandchild as well oh my God that poor poor girl
and this wasn't even in the 1700s this was 1600s late 1600s when this happened um in 1672 they arrested Thomas Rood and
actually hanged him good and hanged him for the crime of incest and interestingly he is the only person in
America to ever be executed for the crime of incest not the title you want to go down with like damn wow yeah it
was wild and according to Stephen gencarella who wrote spooky trails in tall tales Connecticut a way like that
he said quote it was the only official execution for incest and what would become the United States Sarah was spare
death but publicly whipped and so they agreed that she had been raped like she did not participate in
incest as most people do not but this is what the original texts say about her sentencing because I was like excuse me
yeah what it says the sentence of the court is that she be severely whipped on the naked body once at Hartford and once
at Norwich That Others May hear and fear and do no more such abominable wickedness
so they said don't get raped don't get raped why a family member wow especially yeah and got whipped on the naked body
publicly twice for being raped that's like a whole other section that she suffered the trauma sandwich there I
can't even handle like that is I my brain won't even compute it like publicly in front of people oh my God so
it's like now that you've been raped and are having to deal with that let's strip
you naked in front of people and whip you ah yeah so um Micah how did he he got far away from that
situation he didn't want anything to do with that led you know that Legacy and so he decided to start over as a farmer
in Franklin alone he was like I'm gonna bye bye so he set up his farm in 1699 and he was respected he was moderately
good at farming Stellar I wouldn't say he was gonna win any blue ribbons no you know but like
like he wasn't as good as I am at keeping a house plant alive it's been a couple weeks which I will
say I have done for a couple of weeks and so I feel I feel as though I can speak on this subject as a farmer myself
I planted this weekend and within 48 Hours killed two hydrangea plants you know I usually I'm I'm one to to
slaughter house plants but like but I'm doing really good and mostly because John said he doesn't think I can keep
one alive so I'm like now I'm a challenge accepted and prove it to that [ __ ] and I'm doing good her name
is Lisa Vanderpump and she's thriving I also have one named Rupert Giles he's also thriving so fingers crossed
everybody what's the other one I don't the other one I haven't named yet because uh he came to me a little worse
for where so I'm gonna he though okay we're gonna it feels like a he Billy Loomis
he works for where he came to us a little worse for wearing you know yeah uh but back to Micah he was moderately
good like I said he was all right me too and he was said to be someone who helped
people he was social he gave people food and stuff from his farm a good dude someone you want to have to round that's
the story you hear but then the other story oh there's two is a bunch of people who say he was weird strange and
mean so either history has failed us here with a shitty game of telephone or he just pissed off some people and they're
loudly telling everybody about it I was gonna say maybe yeah I feel like that might be it maybe it just depends who
you ask like you can't please everyone no you can't I mean if you asked like about me you'd get a lot of different
viewpoints I would say she's Grand she's Grand but like I'm sure Micah is like dealing with the same fate I mean at one
point Micah um you know he does something that like you really can't argue with saying he's
kind of a shitty person but like we'll get there okay so one thing that was not disputed by anyone was the fact that he
may not have been the best all-around farmer or all-around human but he had the greatest and most beautiful
and thriving apple orchard in the Galaxy the Galaxy the Galaxy this one yup and the next in the night we don't know
about that no we know we know there is not more thriving apples on another guy like they did it's just not possible I'm
not putting my money on that his apples were juicy they were beautiful they were
[ __ ] huge they were all in a neat line all the trees and they had white blossoms and every fall they would all
pop out and he would sell them all it would pop off they would just pop off and everybody would just like lug them
away because they were so giant and amazing I love it and one night in December on his farm so everything's
going great for Micah he's just selling these apples he's like I may not be great at this other farming but you
better believe I can give you an Apple so one night in December a Salesman came through the area
and he was like those kind of salesmen like the one in Sabrina the Teenage Witch I can always bring it back there
uh when that salesman comes through the linen closet portal and sells Sabrina tomorrow ball against her aunt's wishes
um that one uh he it's just like that he had everything and he was even tomorrow
boss he had Tomorrow balls and he was a regular in that area so he had told it he had told sold a ton that week and he
had a lot of cash on him so in those days this was risky business yeah if you just listened to our episode
with red-handed um about the uh about La Vina Fisher you know that being a highway man or a
highway woman was like an actual thing back then and any salesperson or Merchant that was walking around with
tons of cash was just like a giant bullseye on their head I mean it's Ricky risky business so the risk of
being robbed or Worse was really high but he was known there so he felt safe he had done that before he somehow that
night ended up like in or near rood's farm and no one is really sure how but he ended up going inside the house okay
I don't he must have been invited something happened he liked apples he wanted to get some but then he went
missing yeah no one knew where he went he never returned home search parties went out
and then there was a tip that came in saying they that somebody had seen him in the rude Farm area they searched the
property the salesman was found they found him I can tell by the look in your eyes
he was buried under an apple tree with his head shattered open and all of his money gone okay that's not quite what I
was expecting but damn yeah um of course it's a very 1700s investigation followed so everybody was
invited by Hannah yeah and everything was totally fine very up to standards oh man um Micah was definitely the prime
suspect since it was his farm and he was the only one there that makes sense but
he denied denied denied and they couldn't really gather any more physical evidence other than the body being found
under a tree on his property so they had to let it go for the time being oh my God
so even though this guy was found buried under an apple tree with his head smashed open yeah and all his money gone
there was really nothing that could tie it directly to Micah the yeah so he was just kind of let go and spring
came his trees thrived again wow but one tree came back completely different this time
around it was the tree the body of the salesman was found under and it came back with
bright red blossoms and remember I said he would get these bright white blossoms yeah as if that
wasn't strange enough once Harvest Time came at the end of the summer he huge yellow apples grew and when they were
cut open they contained a red circle in the center that looked like a stain of blood do not all of those apples all the
apples on that one tree had this and no others in the orchard did that's strange
like a totally different kind of apples and after this so he found this and he knew so after this he started to lose it
he was like it is it's very much like that so everybody said his demeanor completely switched out of nowhere he
was depressed he withdrew from everyone he never came into town and people near his farm said he would just scream late
into the night alone and pace around and around all evening I want to start doing
that like just to see what people just to see if people are like she just screams at night alone maybe that would
be a cool Legacy yeah I think it would but he wouldn't eat or tend to his farm and everything just completely died he
let everything go but that one tree everything except that red apple tree oh my God every season it came back even
though he didn't tend to it [ __ ] there is a story in legends lore and secrets of New England by Thomas
D'Agostino and Arlene Nicholson and it says he told a few townspeople that he was being haunted by a ghost and he said
that it attacked him any time he tried to work on his farm oh so people think it was the Ghost of the salesman back
for revenge and it also says there's a story of one season a young boy stealing apples from that red tree and when Micah
caught him he told him to take the entire tree of apples because he was so frightened of it and he wanted them gone
he was like just take them all wow and the boy was like no no I was just like I'm sorry I stole one he was like no I
want you to take all of them I don't want them that's not terrified that boy just ran away
yeah it's insane so he continued to deteriorate and at the end of his life the townspeople believed he had either
been falsely accused of murdering the salesman which that is a possibility yeah and that the body had been placed
under the tree by someone you know the killer to frame him or that he had done it and lived a life of guilt being
haunted what do you think I don't know because it sounds like Micah like wasn't a bad guy you know so it is a little
strange that he would suddenly lash out right you know but I don't know that tree was definitely the symbol of
whatever had happened here and they the people of the town did come together when he became too frail to take care of
himself in his old age and they paid two shillings to volunteers to watch over him for two days at a time
so to me it feels like the community kind of believed he didn't yeah and that he was falsely accused I don't think
they would be going through this trouble if they thought he just killed a Salesman In Cold Blood yeah they're not
going to write him under an apple tree anywhere near him yeah so there's I mean to me I'm like that's some good
Community right there yeah especially since there is a possibility he was a brutal murderer totally like but I I
would love to believe he isn't so yeah I kind of believe he's not and he ended up
dying in December of 1728 looking over that red apple tree you sitting in his chair looking out over it that's so sad
what's crazier is that tree stood and thrived until 1938 what and it was blown over by a
hurricane that's how it was finally gone but before it was still up 1930s and people were still eating the apples yes
and people took pieces of the branches and tried to replicate the apples but they never could and there are some
legends that say there are traces of red in some of these strains though and especially in the Franklin Connecticut
area that's so interesting and they would call them like Mike's apples or Micah's apples I want to go apple
picking next year in this area and find one of those apples until I find we got those apples and there is a movie on
Prime right now I don't know if you can still get it on Prime but I saw that it was on there called The Curse of Michael
rude it's from 2014 and it's about this whole story oh [ __ ] yeah so there is a
curse in the apples if you find the Apple I don't know exactly what happens to you that you can't say I think it was
more Micah's curse than anybody else's but I don't know I want to believe I both want to believe that he was
falsely accused and I don't want to because I feel bad agreed you know like it's like that would suck if his whole
life was him being like not a murderer also treated like one I feel like the thing would be did he come into like a
lot of new things after that salesman was killed like did he spend the money that's the thing is that the reason
right or did he just kill this guy but all his money was gone I know like that seems to be the motive yeah I don't know
it's very strange it is it makes a lot more sense to me to be honest that like some Highwayman
or Highwaymen found this guy on his way robbed him killed him and then buried him under the tree thinking no one would
find him yeah that makes more sense to me too than Micah just like randomly snapping and killing this one man who
was well known in town that's the other thing and it's like if I know Micah right I don't think he did that that's
exactly how I feel like despite him coming from a father that was like whoa yeah he's executed as the first person
for getting executed for incest yeah charges some people's parents are [ __ ] terrible and they're well that's
the thing you know it's like you know and they're great you know what I mean so I mean I don't know that's the curse
of Michael rude in the apples I thought it was an interesting one it's a nice New England d one which is always fun uh
but the next one I'm going to talk about because um I want to watch this movie essentially uh is the omen you know I've
never seen it usually it's a great movie it's a it's a really really great horror
film what year did it come out um in 1976. okay never mind so I think there was like a remake okay yeah it was
remakes yeah one of the remakes came out when I was little and I remember being [ __ ] terrified of the preview and
like crying about it I saw that remake I think with my ex-boyfriend in the theater terrible yeah was it good it was
good but at the original movie though it can beat the uh yeah the movie so yeah um religious like scary movies to me are
like the scariest and you always say that too yeah I feel like that whenever you bring religion into a horror movie
it just brings an element of like uncomfortability yeah to it no matter what an uncomfortability in like the
best way for me like I love it because it scares me on a whole different level that's it's so funny because I agree
with the latter part of that it scares me on a whole different level but to a level that I don't want to be scared on
oh yeah yeah you see you don't like it I love it and it's weird because I'm not like I mean we all know like neither of
us are very religious no at all I was gonna say very but it still scares me yeah it scares me because like it
usually when they use it in a horror movie it's used in a really [ __ ] up way it's just the idea everything that
they'll do like um like that the scene in Hellraiser when he's in the church I love that scene and he like does the
like the fake Stigmata kind of thing yeah one of the I love that scene but because it is so uncomfortable it's like
such a wildly I don't know what it is about it I don't know I think maybe it's because I feel the same as like like
paranormal movies like it's just like it's unknown to me it is and I don't want to [ __ ] with it and it's very like
there's a lot to it that's a thing yeah because like I don't care what you practice religious wise like I don't
give a [ __ ] as long as you're not hurting anybody that's how I feel like so that this
isn't to be like you know a knock on religion not at all I literally don't give a [ __ ] but it's if because I'm not
religious I think it does make me uncomfortable and like a scary way yeah I watch it I don't know what it is I
just it's it freaks me the [ __ ] out also did anyone see ghost release in the EP
of course I did because I essentially live with you and it was so good the whole the whole
like story that you were telling me like behind the video that they released yeah
it was like cool yeah they did go watch the video because it's it's wild ghost family but um it's like yeah ghost fans
go watch the video like everyone else don't um but I'm just kidding but they did a
cover of Genesis like Phil Collins of Genesis um Jesus he knows me it's a great cover and I think they have like a
whole EP of covers coming out in May I want to say covers covers um but it goes with the video and they
released it on Easter and it was just like a really good cover and the videos like really wild I love that so it was a
nice little Easter treat and it kind of goes along with all this like religious talk so there we are
let's talk about it because it definitely has some like you know Satan and all that in the Antichrist things in
it uh it was like I said came out in 1976. it's directed by Richard Donner and it was written by David seltzer
The Omen is pretty [ __ ] and is a classically terrifying and disturbing horror flick it's one of those
masterpieces of horror just the way it is done in my opinion I'll say um but it starts out with a guy named
Robert Thorne who's played by Gregory Peck and his wife Catherine Thorne played by Lee Remick
um they're in Rome and about to give birth to a little boy when things go horribly wrong and the baby is actually
born deceased oh so obviously Robert is distraught and he has to be the one to tell his wife this she doesn't know but
before he can do that the hospital chaplain comes in and it's like hey a baby has just been born a few doors
down and the mother died during childbirth he's like um I'll take it you should just take
this baby and just tell your wife it's yours easy peasy like nothing can go wrong
with this I think that's why this all went wrong that's funny that's called kidnapping and it's a crime and I love
it because Robert's like that sounds great what luck like he's just like all right let's go men and he does and they
name this boy Damien and Jesus uh they don't name him Jesus I mean like can I say and also Jesus I'm saying like whoa
Jesus and I say Jesus with like a GES g-u-s just in case you're wondering um but as this Damien kid grows up [ __ ]
goes awry yeah lots of bad stuff happens to this family people die horrifically uh their Nanny literally hangs herself
during his fifth birthday oh my God yeah Damien we find out is the actual Antichrist oops for some reason the term
Antichrist to me is hilarious well I think of it um in Donnie Darko when he's like um I think you're the [ __ ]
Antichrist insane so I have two thoughts we're going down a path here I think Donnie Darko would be that whole scene
which makes me LOL yeah and then I also think of the anti-feries from Fairly OddParents which you won't understand
but other people will yeah and then like now that you think of that you're like oh wow like they were definitely
inspired by the Antichrist and that's hilarious and it's just like a wild term the Antichrist the Antichrist like
okay and it's like that Damien is just is the Antichrist it's like okay yeah what does that mean but like I don't
understand or Patrick Swayze yeah and apparently they tell they tell you what it means because like they're like oh no
Damien is the Antichrist like whoopsie I don't know what to tell you and I'm putting a priest close to the family
father Brennan is like yeah he's the son of Satan so that bold move you took in the hospital there like did not that
wasn't a good move that that woman [ __ ] the devil well that's thank you because that's the
thing um that would that would make the most sense that uh you know what I I'm not
gonna give spoilers right now I'm not gonna give spoilers right now but watch the movie you'll get the answer and it's
wild you want to watch it together yeah I think we should watch it because who boy oh no that's all I'm gonna say uh
but yeah so you know he's the Antichrist Son Of Satan okay oopsie poopsie um but then Catherine becomes pregnant
again yeah and the priest UPS the bad [ __ ] level when this happens and says oh
yeah since Damien is the son of Satan he's gonna be hell-bent pun intended on murdering that unborn fetus and both of
you so you gotta kill him but I'll like 100 look the other way like this priest is like don't [ __ ] worry I feel like
can you kill him for me and father Brandon's like no I cannot but I will absolutely not report you to authorities
oh my God so [ __ ] goes down again I won't spoil it in case you haven't seen it it was from 1976 so you have had the
time plenty of time I would be very justified in spoiling but I love you all so much that I won't do it to you okay
watch it it's nuts so many more twisties but we just we're not here just to talk
about the movie plot where to talk about curses so let's go so obviously it involves a
lot of really dark [ __ ] this movie plot all of that you know very like um historically dark [ __ ] yeah Satan demons
murder Antichrist dark religious topics and all the like so right away everyone making this film was like a little weary
that they may be messing with some forces that like could potentially be dangerous so that's the thing like yeah
I I would feel that way a bit I wouldn't no I know you wouldn't yeah yeah I wouldn't feel that way
you but I know you would yeah but it's weird because I don't believe wholeheartedly in any of them yeah but
like a little piece of me would be like I'm not my whole goal in life is to not [ __ ] around to find out you know I think
that's a very smart way of going about life I'd like to quite honestly find out certain things but I'm not gonna [ __ ]
around to find them out honestly I'm smart thanks very smart I I'm fully on board with that way of thinking too many
inexplicable things can happen in the world and I'm not trying to figure it out like that I mean it's there's a lot
going on there is but it a lot did go on really during this so an advertising exec and an Evangelical Christian named
Robert Munger was the one who helped birth the idea of this child Antichrist he had said to producer Harvey Bernhard
that he believed the Antichrist was walking around in the form of a child because that would be the thing no one
would expect he really believed not to be true I beg to differ this as do all parents
I'm sure because like No One's Gonna expect a child to be the Antichrist I think everyone's okay
who are you yeah who are you yeah so I get it but whatever so this idea you know this idea is obviously
pretty [ __ ] terrifying like at its core and it's also pretty brilliant as like in a horror sense to have a child
walking around as the Antichrist so they started working with it they're like what an idea
some religious ideas in the film were created and not taken directly from the Bible like the idea that the Antichrist
is the son of Satan himself I don't know what he actually is but that wasn't I guess that's not what the Bible says
Okay um David Seltzer created that idea for the movie but it really does work really well that's the son of Satan
that's way scarier to people you hear the son of Satan it's like you're that works like you know what you're you're
coming with here so so yeah they made up a lot of that stuff but people think that it's that it's these kind of
changes that angered something dark like the real Antichrist was like that's not
my authorized bio like why are you doing that maybe heinous lies but then I here's my thinking I'm like well why
would the Antichrist give a [ __ ] first of all that you're not going by the Bible
what are the dark forces that are mad that you're not going by the Bible like that gets a little that gets a
little hairy let's get a little hairy scary no comments yeah I'm like that's I don't know I feel like another side
would be angrier that you're not going by the Bible but again I don't know I don't know if there's pieces of the
Bible that would turn that on its head you know I don't know much about the Bible no no but before he even got the
film started or green lit he pitched it by telling producer Harvey Bernhard that
he believed the devil didn't want them to make the film which seems like a pretty bold pitch to me wait wait the
the guy who like made this whole idea said the devil doesn't want to do this yeah like he was like I'm pretty sure
the devil doesn't want us to make this film the devil doesn't want screen time which I don't and I'm not saying it's a
bad pitch because I don't believe that's a bad pitch I think it's a bold pitch that's one of those like risky I gotta
hit the right person with this pitch because you're being like hey I'm pretty sure the Devil Himself does not want us
to make this film it's like you're gonna get some person that's like oh then we shouldn't and you're gonna get somebody
else who's gonna go Dan and and in there and they're gonna be like let's make this film and you're all gonna do like
devil horns together and rock out so I think I would be the former and you would be the latter I would just pull
out an electric guitar literally like she's like hovering above the land but yeah he got someone to be that did
the daring in here one more time they do that on um last podcast on the left like whatever yeah whatever they'll
say something like super Metal they're always like shout out uh shout out to last podcast on the left um one of the
first podcasts I ever listened to yeah remember when we went to their live show yeah that was fun I got vertigo you guys
are funny but it was great uh but later in interviews they both repeat this idea
like they they tell this story and that this was a true story that he pitched it
that way that they were like yes and Monger is quoted as saying I said if you make this movie you're gonna have some
problems if the devil's greatest single weapon is to be invisible and you're gonna do something which is going to
take away his invisibility to millions of people he's not going to want that to happen
so the devil is invisible I guess okay that's what I took away from so Bernhard recalled the devil was at work and he
didn't want that film made so here's where I sit again I'm going to keep telling you where I sit from here
please do imagine the devil like if that is an actual thing which like I don't I
don't know uh but imagine him what the icon iconic that we think he is like that whatever we see him as with like
the horses and all that imagine him being so mad about a Hollywood horror movie see so here's where I'm at I
picture the devil like the one in um Sabrina but like the new Sabrina did you get to that season where like sure did
he's like yep he's with me right now because Mikey just fanned himself that man made me question so many things
about my identity anyways yeah I pictured that devil and I forgot where I was going because I was just thinking
about him too much sorry are we just picturing that double right now is that all we're doing here's where I was going
with that I picture that handsome man that handsome devil and I would think that that devil would want to want the
pr thank you that's kind of what I don't see him being pissed no like that's just
me because people are also going to be [ __ ] terrified and isn't that the devil's whole thing is like terrifying
people that's the thing I'm like I feel like that's kind of like a schtick and oh my God I'm looking at the Devil now
now Sabrina the Teenage Witch one I had to refresh Mama Marie I'm looking at the
doctor look at the Devil right now uh yeah if it's that one he would definitely be down for it but I don't
yeah I don't down for what I don't know what you say no I don't I don't know but
then when I think about it I'm like that's my interpretation so there's a vast number of and Mikey's bringing up
pictures of the devil of that devil the one from Sabrina and I'm just um it's getting so much to look elsewhere uh
that's good because I can't but there's they call him daddy Satan uh but yeah you know watch that show by
the way that's a great show also now all I can do that show I know what the [ __ ]
all I can hear in my head right now is that Jack Black song where it's like oh my God the tenacious D's songs
um does that stand for devil tenacious devil I have no idea um but either way I was gonna say sorry there's several
different ways to interpret the devil whether he exists how he exists who he is what his beliefs are what his
motivation is what his personality is this is just mine you probably you probably do have a different
interpretation because we're all different here that's okay and maybe your devil that you're thinking of I
mean and it doesn't have to be your devil just the devil you think about doesn't want baby he doesn't want the pr
maybe he does want to be invisible so I think my idea visit that he wouldn't give a [ __ ] about a horror a Hollywood
horror film I feel like that's uh that's small potatoes to a Damon to the devil TM but maybe your demon does so I'm I'm
not here to stomp on your idea here but that's just how I feel we digress so filming is about to begin
in London and the cast is heading on to set and [ __ ] already is going really awry and this is the part where when you
enter into this you're like okay yeah curse like the devil what are you talking about shut up but then when you
hear the [ __ ] that happened you're like what was going on there because it's a
lot so I've heard like some of the things that I know are definitely not man-made accidents do you think any of
these accidents were man-made to like add to the hype honestly I no I don't know if I can come
up with one that is man-made a lot of these are too big and too out of everyone's hands okay for them to happen
and you'll see why so Gregory Peck was on his way into London to begin filming and the plane he was on was struck by
lightning so that's not man-made no and now I looked into it and according to Scientific American each airplane in the
U.S commercial air fleet is struck by lightning at least once a year remember when it happened to Miley Cyrus it did
now usually these strikes are light and not really noticed that much don't do a bunch of damage they used to but they
they definitely don't anymore um it happens once a year to each plane on average but December 8th 1963 a
commercial airliner crashed as a direct result of being struck by lightning oh that's terrifying that was in 63
remember before they put in a bunch of different [ __ ] which I will talk about that has made that so it won't happen
again usually but it was panned American World Airways flight 214 and it was a Boeing 7 707 the flight was going from
San Juan Puerto Rico to Baltimore Maryland and then it was taking off from Maryland and going to Philadelphia so
the plane took off from Puerto Rico got to Baltimore then as it was going from Baltimore to Philadelphia the plane
exploded and went down with 73 passengers and eight crew members on board oh my God and the last words they
heard over the black box was mayday mayday mayday Clipper 214 out of control here we go oh isn't that like the most
chilling here we go why the [ __ ] would you say that now everyone on board perished this was directly due to
lightning strikes and it it ignited the fuel tank and that's why it exploded after this though so don't worry after
this planes were ordered to install lightning discharge Wicks or static dischargers on all planes in the U.S
this basically what these are are they're on the wings and they allow the excess electrons of built up static
energy to have a pathway back into the atmosphere so they don't build up and say ignite a plane's fuel tank like they
get shot out into the atmosphere so it's on it's like a way to like ground it and
send it somewhere else kind of thing and it they work like they've tested them out they work that's how it works thank
you for that yeah so just wanted to like detour on that because whoa scary so shortly after this within days writer
writer David Seltzer's plane also was hit by lightning he said it was the roughest five minutes
I've ever had on an airliner I am self-flagellating my fear of flying but this you usually are this is all in
the name of content for you because I love you so if you've ever doubted it right after this producer mace Newfield
New filed I think it is a new field also in the plane headed to production and his plane was struck by lightning come
on that's insane three planes were struck by lightning and you said it only happens it happens once on average a
year no so Harvey Bernhard was almost struck by lightning while standing on the ground while filming on location in
Rome once production began too much lightning yeah and it was literally right next to him see that's why these
are a little weird like how how do you not think like something had to have been at work here something yeah right
like don't you believe that that's like smiting but like I smite you with these like you
believe that something was at work right something weird is happening here I don't know what
I can't put my my little my little finger on it but no but you know something is wrong here I believe a lot
in energy there you go so it's bad energy it is what it is you're talking about like a whole ass kid being born
there's a whole last kiss like gonna kill them all I'm gonna kill them I'm gonna kill my mom I'm gonna kill my dad
that's him another Juice Box bun yeah and you know it it did have some bad energy going
into production because they were immediately setting this up as like the devil doesn't want this so they're
setting the bad energy from the start yeah not manifesting properly now Harvey Bernhard was so stressed that he began
wearing a crucifix on set I might also do the same I would not but he said he's like upside down maybe but he said quote
I wasn't about to take any chances which I get the devil was at work and he didn't want that film made we were
dealing in areas we didn't know about and later on in the picture it got worse worse and worse oh my God so like I get
it you know like you're not going to take any chances you might as well throw a crucifix around your neck it's crazy
that this movie like there was a private plane that was rented for production because they were
using it for like overhead scenes sure and during production like during filming somebody else rented this plane
like they charted it while they weren't using it upon takeoff the engine was hit
by a flock of birds caused the engines to fail and the plane crashed onto the end of the runway skidded into the road
and hit a car oh my God everyone on board and in the car was killed yeah this is true this much is true but in
some sources and I don't I don't know if this is true I can't verify this it's just in some sources sure they say the
car was carrying the Pilot's Wife and two children I really I think that is that's way too
Over the Top If they do cite it in some sources but I found I want to be clear I
found nothing to verify this okay yeah sometimes but you will read that in some sources that's why I want to let you
know like I couldn't find something to verify it if you can then that's even worse but and if you can't I'm like you
know like it's already bad enough that everybody on board died and everyone in the car died you don't need to make it
worse thank you because I'm literally like you don't need to make that like I already carrier and more traumatizing
like people die yeah like I I'm already upset yeah I'm upset that so that happened holy [ __ ] apparently I think it
was a peck who was supposed to be renting one of the planes too and it might have been that actual plane and he
ended up not renting it that day or using it that day to do something and it crashed wow and he was supposed to be on
it there was also an animal trainer who was on set because there's a scene with Rottweilers where Peck's character is
chased and attacked in a cemetery by really angry vicious dogs hell hounds if you will but the dogs the Rottweilers
attacked the stuntman for real and they wouldn't stop oh my God and they bit through the paddings and ignored the
handlers and the animal trainer and I guess the stuntman ended up being okay but he suffered actual injuries from it
wow and it was very unlike these dogs to not listen to the handlers and the trainer yeah were they okay they were
okay okay good um so Richard Donner was leaving Harvey bernhard's office where something else
happens to the animal trainer by the way uh we'll get to it but he was leaving bernhard's office after a meeting and he
was hit by a car oh my God it was okay but like what the [ __ ] he was actually he was hit by a car how do you know how
long this production was like how long it took no I don't know exactly how long it took but it happened quick I'm gonna
try to find out because I'm like all of these things are happening like was this
a couple months exactly an executive producer mace there was staying at the London Hilton with his wife while
filming and it was bombed by the IRA what and on November 12th they were all there executive producers directors
actors all of them were having some kind of dinner at some restaurant and that restaurant was bombed by the IRA minutes
before they arrived oh my God this is um over an 11-week period I was gonna say it was quick 11 weeks all crammed into
this period oh my God and now there's a scene speaking of the animal trainer there's a scene in the movie where they
go to a zoo and Damien's presence just his presence there makes all the animals like go crazy they're all screaming
every they're flipping that stresses me out it's a really haunting and very scary scene yeah it's really good and
they come across a group of baboons and the baboons freak the [ __ ] out when they
see Damien and he's just smiling at them it's so scary and so the baboons attacked the car they're in that they're
driving through yeah and according to Richard Donner Lee Remick who played the mom was legitimately terrified while
filming this sequence so her screams and the fears we see are very real and they're what's in the final shot of the
film so they use that animal trainer for these shots as well and everything was fine but the next day that animal
trainer was killed by tigers what the [ __ ] Bernhard later said he was killed the day after we shot there he
was killed by a tiger he grabbed him by the head and killed him instantly oh my God like what the [ __ ]
and what's even worse is it didn't end after filming so special effects supervisor John
Richardson was responsible for a really Infamous scene it's a decapitation scene
in the movie um it the man this man is like really brutally beheaded by a sheet of glass
sliding off the back of a truck it's very final destination-esque yeah um it's really brutal well John
Richardson was in Holland with his girlfriend Liz Moore on August 13 1976. they were filming Richard attenborough's
a bridge a bridge too far in their car crashed he survived very injured but she was decapitated
now really quickly just because like I looked into Liz the girlfriend the victim here she was a really talented
and really respected painter and sculptor she designed and sculpted star child and Stanley Kubrick's 2001 Space
Odyssey oh wow the nude furniture and A Clockwork Orange the C3PO suit in Star Wars oh my God and worked with another
artist named Brian Moyer Moyer I think it is sorry to create the finalized version of the Storm Trooper helmets
holy [ __ ] she was only 32 years old when she was killed wow imagine she did she
could have gone on to do and killed by decapitation that's terrifying now allegedly according to reports he said
he escaped from the vehicle and he saw a signpost they were in Holland pointing to the nearest town and it was a the
town's name was Omen and it was o-m-m-e-n and according to him the kilometer marker where this was was 66.6
I don't know what to say to that another crew member a stunt person named elf joint also went from working on stunts
and working on like The Omen he went to the Richard Attenborough is a bridge too
far too so they both went over to that he had an accident almost immediately as well he was supposed to be filmed
jumping off a roof and he would land on some kind of like airbag obviously he fell from the roof really strangely
according to all Witnesses and somehow missed the airbag he ended up critical in the hospital luckily he did recover
but when he woke up he said he was everyone said he was absolutely adamant he said I was pushed off that roof oh I
just got all the [ __ ] chills and the way he fell everyone was like that was not a stunt manfall like that
wasn't a stunt man fault he was awkward it was like he wasn't ready for it but he was like like someone had pushed him
and he wasn't ready to do an actual Fall Like A Safe Fall oh no they said he was
like super awkward and strange how he fell and he was he he was like I was 100 pushed I felt it and he was out there
alone yeah [ __ ] that no one [ __ ] that and to end it all out the kid who played
Damon Harvey Stevens he disappeared for years after he's a terrifying looking child and the crew of the documentary
about this curse had to hire a private detective to search him down because they thought he was dead or missing what
then when they talked to him he won't speak about the curse literally will not say a word you can't get him to open up
about it what yeah which I'm like is that like what is that is that could that be that you are like playing into
it because like good on you I would play the [ __ ] into that if I could but like
damn I would not play into that like that's why it's so like no because look we're talking about it
well yeah but have people being like oh oh [ __ ] dude I that's why I say a lot of that those are not like man-made
things they're like not bombings of the IRA they're like planes crashing they're
lightning hitting planes there's people getting in like weird strange accidents like yeah sure there are coincidences
but not that many and that's the thing a lot of the people involved in this production were like yeah in the
beginning when you like hear about it you're like sure yeah okay like you can kind of explain away some things but
they're like as it goes you know you just stop being able to explain like who how can you have that much bad
luck I'm not well [ __ ] I am not well [ __ ] but I think it's an interesting I love a cursed movie Set actually
um shutter for a while had like a whole series first movies yeah there's a lot of them it's like Rosemary's Baby
there's Poltergeist there's the exercise and again a lot of them are like religion or like you know Satan based
kind of thing but I think it's one of those things I don't know maybe maybe I mean religion is one of the oldest
things in the world you know like so it's like maybe maybe with and maybe it doesn't even necessarily
have to do with like you know the devil and stuff like that it's like this you're messing with something ancient
that you don't understand an Ancient Forest but none of us understand maybe you know like maybe it's something to do
with that I don't know who will know I feel like I'm gonna be very creeped out the next couple days yeah I know me too
because I love that feeling but like I also hate it at the same time oh the end of my hallway is gonna freak me out
lately I've been freaked out by the end of my hallway oh yeah you might want to like
clear that yeah clear that out yeah it's my spare bedroom too so yeah clear that
out yeah definitely you don't want that being I think it's just because honestly
there's a lot of laundry in there then that's bad energy you're like I just don't want to fold it so that's the
battery no that's why I'm freaking it's dirty laundry like a couple of hampers full of laundry
that I need to get done so maybe that's it that would freak me out too [ __ ] hate laundry yeah that's like that's wow
bad vibes that's bad vibes it's bad stinky Vibes oh man good creepy we love a haunted movie which you know
these are and there was a lot of there's a lot of actual death involved here so it's um True Crime it's not the True
Crime element um we should make this a series and like if you guys know of any cursed movies if
that you want us to look into like cursed movies curves TV shows cursed Broadway shows curse Productions curse
Productions there we go because that might be kind of fun to look into totally I love a good curse every once
in a while we need a little uh I don't want to be cursed no but I also I like to look into a curse but they are very
let me speak clearly yeah give the universe the right word yeah but yeah and go listen to ghosts new You Know
cover single because it's great I heard it you're gonna give but yeah I hope everybody uh had a good
weekend and watched The Omen and we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep
it weird but not so weird that you're the Antichrist or maybe do keep it that weird just up to your preference yeah
whatever you want to do man keep you keep it that weird you're kind of weird hello don't hurt people
[Music] thank you

Today we are looking at CURSES. We talk about the curse of Micah Rood and his bloody apples which stems from murder, execution and a haunting! Then, we get into the truly real, fatal and terrifying events surrounding the production of the horror film, The Omen. Deaths, plane crashes and bombings? Was it really the wrath of the devil or something else entirely?

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the curse of Micah Rood and the production tragedies of The Omen.

Key points

Micah Rood's Dark Legacy. Micah Rood, a farmer in 1720s Connecticut, becomes embroiled in a murder mystery involving a salesman found dead on his property.
The Curse of the Red Apple Tree. After a salesman goes missing, a tree on Micah's farm grows red blossoms and yellow apples with a blood-like stain.
Community Support for Micah. Despite being accused of murder, the townspeople rally to support Micah in his old age, believing he was falsely accused.
The Omen's Dark Origins. The Omen, directed by Richard Donner, explores the terrifying concept of a child Antichrist.
Cursed Filming Experiences. Filming The Omen was fraught with strange accidents, including Gregory Peck's plane being struck by lightning.
Lightning Strikes Three Planes. Three planes involved in the production were struck by lightning, raising eerie questions.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I don't want to do an episode pissed off.

Ash expresses her desire to be in a good mood for the episode.

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