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Brian Randall Schaffer grew up in Pickerington Ohio a suburb of Columbus he is the oldest of Randy and Rene
Schafer's two sons Brian graduated from high school in 1997 and went on to attend the Ohio State University six
years later he graduated with a degree in microbiology in 2004 he began studies at Ohio State's College of Medicine
during his second year of studies in March of 2006 his mother Renee sadly passed away due to cancer Brian's
friends say that although he appeared to be handling it fairly well her death was very hard for him but
Brian had a lot of friends to help and support him he also became romantically involved with a fellow second-year
medical student Alexis Wagner she along with their families and friends believed that Brian
would probably be proposing to her most likely on a trip to Miami the couple planned for the beginning of April On
February March thirty first classes at Ohio State ended for spring break the next week Brian and his father Randy
Shaffer celebrated the occasion by going out for a steak dinner that evening Randy noted that Brian seemed exhausted
from his studies and cramming for some important exams at 9:00 p.m. Brian met his friend Clint
Florence at the ugly Tunis Aluna a bar in the South Campus gateway complex on High Street
an hour later Brian called his girlfriend Alexis she was away returning to her hometown in Toledo about a two
and a half hour drive from Brian's location to visit with her family before she and Brian were due to depart for
Miami from there Brian and Clint went bar-hopping visiting several other drinking establishments and working
their way down to the arena district at each stop the two had one shot each according to Clint after midnight the
two met Clint's friend Meredith Reed in the Short North she gave them a ride back to the ugly tuna so Luna and the
three of them went into the bar for one last round of drinks at some point Brian
separated from his friends saying he was going to go talk to the band as closing time was approaching Clinton
Meredith say they were looking for Bryan and calling him repeatedly unable to find him they left the bar with the
other patrons when the bar closed at 2:00 a.m. then they waited outside for Bryan but never saw him they assumed he
had gone back to his apartment without letting them know Brian's girlfriend Alexis and his father Randy Schaeffer
both tried to call Bryan later that weekend but he did not answer on the morning of Monday April 3rd Bryan missed
the flight to Miami that he and Alexis had scheduled long before at that time 27 year old Brian Schaeffer was reported
missing to the Columbus Police Department [Music] the investigation led police back to the
ugly tuna bar where Brian was last seen the South Campus gateway bar had security cameras detectives reviewed the
footage which showed Brian Clint and Meredith going up an escalator to the bars main entrance at 1:15 a.m. then
Brian could be seen again this time outside of the bar around 155 am talking briefly with two young women the two
women leave and the Brian is seen moving off camera in the direction of the bar apparently to re-enter later
Clint told police that he had seen Brian after he returned inside the bar and they were planning to leave but he lost
track of him however what investigators could not find on the security camera footage was
Brian leaving the bar when the ugly tuna closed to add to the mystery back at Brian's apartment on King Avenue just
six blocks away from the ugly tuna his car was found still parked outside inside the apartment nothing seemed out
of place and nothing appeared to be missing fliers of Brian's picture showing a stick-figure tattoo on his
upper right arm were distributed and the Columbus Police Department was asking the public for their help the
stick-figure tattoo is from the cover artwork for the song alive by Pearl Jam broken-hearted Alexis called Brian's
cellphone every evening before going to bed for a long time after the disappearance usually it went directly
to voicemail but one night in September it actually rang three times a ping from the phone
was detected at a cell tower in Hilliard just fourteen miles northwest of Columbus singular Brian's wireless
provider said what Alexis heard may have been due to a computer glitch in September of 2008 during a heavy
windstorm in central Ohio Brian's father Randy Schaeffer was out in his yard clearing debris a branch broke off from
a nearby tree and fatally struck him neighbors found his body the next morning and called police after Randy's
obituary ran online a condolence book was posted one of the signatures posted read to dad love Brian
US Virgin Islands this suggested Brian might have left Columbus for a new life elsewhere however upon further
investigation the note was found to have been posted from a computer accessible to the public in the greater Central
Ohio area and it was determined to be a hoax [Music] Brian Schaffer has been missing since
April 1st of 2006 he is Caucasian six foot two inches tall with light brown hair and hazel eyes at the time of his
disappearance he was approximately 165 to 170 pounds he was wearing jeans a short sleeve polo shirt over a white
long sleeve shirt white Adidas sneakers and a yellow cancer awareness bracelet Brian was 27 years old at the time of
his disappearance in 2006 but recently would have celebrated his 40th birthday authorities do not believe Brian left of
his own accord but it is unclear what caused his disappearance if you have any information concerning this case please
contact the Columbus Police Department at 877 six four five eight four seven seven if you do not wish to speak to the
police you can submit your tip to the Central Ohio Crime Stoppers at stop crime org or call them at six one four
four six one eight four seven seven [Music] [Music] back in 2016 we covered the missing-persons case of Brian Schaeffer
and it has since become one of our red light cases one of our favorite missing-persons cases that has intrigued
us and the listeners throughout the years joining us today in the garage we're so happy to see you guys longtime
friends of the show Tim and Lance from crawlspace for missing Marv Murray from how many podcasts you guys have like 10
now all of them except this one okay and I actually I just heard that they bought
half of our show oh but the sale is currently in the works so by the time this episode is over my half you bought
my half yeah well welcome to the garage guys thank you very much it's beautiful yeah thanks for having us it's a lot
more cozy than I anticipated it's very nice here could you tell us a little bit about your projects first with the crawl
space and then missing Mara Marie sure I'm Tim and we we cover a lot of missing person cases we cover some murder cases
we kind of bounce around a little bit on crawl space but we will do kind of comprehensive looks into certain cases
like Brianna Maitland for one and we also do missing more Amaury that is a 98 episodes
deep at the current moment on the missing Maura Marie and with crawlspace we try to speak with people who are
like-minded in in this genre so criminal psychologists investigative journalists
other podcasters whether it's you know true crime podcasters or maybe somebody that has a connection to it and so yeah
we try to be sort of a little bit more all-encompassing with crawlspace there's also empty frames which season one was
about the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum heist in Boston which is probably the most significant art heist in
history at least in America and we moved on from season 1 to season 2 we just started covering other art heists other
art crimes other significant moments in in art history because we didn't realize
how much we really liked it when we were when we were due empty frames and we made a bunch of
connections and these people would email us stories say what did you know about this one did you know about this did you
know that this is a fake and they thought it was real so it really it really kind of piqued our interest so
regarding the missing-persons case of Brian Schaeffer I liken you guys to missing-persons
experts 90 some episodes of missing Mara Marie captain and I have been longtime listeners of that show
thank you do you guys remember the first time you heard about the Shafer case I think it was from you guys actually a
couple years ago I remembered seeing the video of it and I don't even know where
I saw the surveillance video and then yes I made the connection after hearing you guys cover the case and then I
realized oh that video that I saw that guy who left the bar and he was sort of on the edge of the frame of the
surveillance video oh that's that guy and I can't remember when that video was released or where I saw it but that that
was the first time and it was I guess maybe it was like five or six years ago there was like a nine minute segment on
a national show years ago yeah yeah case any of your anything that jumps off the
page to you guys immediately any red flags just from your initial reaction when you first learned about this
missing persons case because all these cases the you guys discuss on your show that we discuss on our show they're all
unique in their own way they all have their whys and how's and and what ifs that you go into but any first reactions
that you remember having or first thoughts regarding this case confusion and it's this has really got to be one
of the most perplexing missing person cases that I've ever looked into because the other cases that we cover like more
Amari Branham 8 Lynne and we're dipping our toe into Brandon loss in a little bit I feel like they have outcomes that
are a little more grass grabbable graspable this one is just I don't know I mean I've been batting around ideas in
my head and it's very confusing one thing that is really confusing to me is that like Tim said we
more Murray Brianna Maitland Brandon Lawson so you have a single person in a single incident not surrounded by
anybody else that that is in the immediate vicinity you know there might be a house or two here there but with
with Brian Schaeffer he's in a bar that's very busy and there's a lot of people and he he leaves and you have
security footage of him leaving and going back in one time and then there's there's no security footage of his
actual exit that was you know led to his disappearance so all of these things Heaney talked to the band you know all
of these things were like well this person doesn't really seem like they intended to disappear did he slip and
get into an accident and there's no real circumstance in his life that you can absolutely pinpoint and say well this is
why he's he's leaving like there's nothing in his life that is any different from the things that have
happened in my life or other people's lives right and they haven't disappeared I also think with missing person cases
in general that when we don't have pieces of evidence or we don't know what the story is we tend to start making it
up and so what's weird with the Brian Schaeffer case is you have to prove there is no evidence that he left the
bar you see what I'm saying yeah it's like there's a lot of times where it's like you can go well maybe he
went back to his apartment maybe he went to somebody else's house but you can't there's no evidence of him actually
leaving the bar safely that night well and what's really truly at the center of this case and I think it's why it became
such a internet sensation you know is the whole surveillance footage of Brian going into the bar then we see him come
out briefly speak with some young ladies and then it appears that he's re-entering the bar and I think that the
whole thing of having no footage and as the captain pointed out no proof that he
ever left that bar or that building is really the the thing that jumps off the page right away that's I think that the
quick leap that everybody wants to do and it's just natural is you have less questions about Brian who he is what was
going on in his life right less questions about who he was with that night or as you said you know he's in a
public place surrounded by a whole bunch of people shortly before we no longer know where he is and I think that the
natural reaction and the natural leap is to go I have a lot of questions about this bar I have a lot of questions about
this building I have a lot of questions about this area which i think is unique to this case yeah what what makes it
makes it even more unique because this structure was a newer build so it wasn't like some bar that people have been in
their whole life so even talks around town people would go oh yeah he went missing from the ugly tuna have you been
there I've never been there does that make any sense yeah that makes a lot of sense because you want to
somehow identify with it it's just it's another piece of the mystery that you have to put together in your head and
you have to start there and you have to write you have to start there a general description of this building and bar
captain let's try to go through that for for everybody so the the bar itself is inside of a
building the second floor second floor it shares the building with some other businesses it's a lot of things have
changed with that building throughout the years obviously this case is now 13 years old but so the bar is on the
second floor there's basically one entrance to and from the bar we'll call that the main entrance to and from the
bar that goes from the bar to the building to the second floor of the building and then you take the escalator
up and down to get to the main entrance of the building right so let's just go you you walk through there's a big
parking garage you park there normally you walk through a courtyard you get to the ugly tuna you go through the main
doors you have to go up the escalator then there's a little landing platform and then to the right
is the entrance to the bar once you're in the bar it's basically a square and then there's little patio space outside
but it's it's a cool patio because you're on the second floor so you can kind of look down onto the courtyard and
look down on High Street which is the main street of the campus but what law enforcement tells us is what we have
footage of the escalators and we and what they claim is there is no record of Brian leaving that escalator that night
the other back way out which would be for the band which would be for service workers of the bar and possibly somebody
that was in the bar a customer that left the wrong way we know through conversations with the band and some of
the people that worked there even security that that door the exit door didn't have a camera on it but what it
did have was there was a long hallway to get to that exit and that had a camera on it and they claimed that there is no
sign of Brian Schaeffer going down that hallway and that's a straight hallway well I've never been in that hallway
it's basically again you're on the second floor so it's a hallway that's gonna lead you to a possible elevator or
stairway right so but we just know that if you take the bar which is basically a
square that once you leave that front door it'd be kind of hard not to be seen by that escalator and then the back exit
there's a hallway that that is monitored by a camera and they claim now they never released that footage now I have
never heard the lead detective Hearst actually talk about the back hallway it was a secondary detective I believe
detective Edwards he's pretty clear that we don't see Brian on that video at all
yeah because if they did see him what what do you think the law enforcement response would be to the public that he
left the bar that right so they think and I you think that law enforcement would
give an official statement saying we did see him exiting through the through the
service yeah yeah but let buzz let's be a little more clear too because when you
go hey this guy never left the bar and we haven't seen him so did he die in the bar was there a was there a foul play
inside the bar and there is no evidence of that right the bar was super cooperative with the police I believe
they actually shut down for a couple days and and let them search everywhere and so there's no sign of struggle no
sign of foul play inside the bar so it's it's almost like poof he vanished into thin air absolutely and to put it in its
simplest form when we say he he never left the the building he never left the bar we have no proof that he left
law enforcement took that a step further where we not only is there footage of everyone entering the bar going up the
escalator they went back and they accounted for every person that they could see going in and every person they
could see going out Brian being the only one that that they never could locate could never speak to they spoke to
everybody that was there that night right so much so that there was an individual that they were calling orange
sweatshirt guy or orange sweater guy right for a while and that's because there was an individual that came into
the up the escalator they had him on footage and then all of a sudden there's later when they closed there's this
mysterious individual that they didn't see come into the bar and they could identify that this individual is wearing
an orange sweater or sweatshirt it took a while but they tracked down that guy and he had what everybody would it's a
believable story I went into the bar wearing this outfit and I brought my sweatshirt with me I got cold I put it
on and left with it on that's why I look different may have appeared to be a different person on surveillance footage
so all these people were accounted for it now there are obviously a lot of theories out there regarding this
disappearance of Brian Schaeffer but one of the more dominant theories well some of the more dominant theories
are did someone murder Brian did he kill himself is he still alive you know did did the death of his mother just three
weeks before the disappearance and the stress of medical school caused him to run away from his life for the longest
time I thought somehow he got out of the bar even though we don't see him made it
down the stairs and left the building this obviously would be difficult with the cameras but if he did and this is
what I've always kind of thought and I believe this was my theory when we first covered it was that this was simply a
robbery that went bad his apartment was six blocks away it's quite conceivable being drunk and missing his ride after
the bar closes that he would just walk home well let's go through that for a second - so Brian goes up the escalator
he's with his friend Meredith in klindt two friends that he was been out drinking with all night and he's pretty
flirty with some women at the ugly tuna at some point they're gone hey Brian we gotta go and he goes I'm gonna go talk
to the band they then say we they didn't see him maybe he went to the bathroom they I believe they claim that they
checked the bathroom and they also called Brian I think several times to let him know hey we're leaving and plus
the bar is closing so they don't hear from him so they take off we we have them on footage leaving the parking
garage I do want to point out something real quick here - on that note captain regarding them saying his friends
Meredith and Clint saying well we checked the restrooms we're looking for our friend right the layout of the bar
is such that the restrooms there's a very little hallway I mean it's like two steps into this hallway and you very
quickly can enter the women's restroom or the men's restroom that little hallway containing the restrooms is very
close to the main entrance of the bar right so it's not like they went to the other side of the bar check the
restrooms and he could have slipped out the front door without them the friends seeing them they would have been in a
prime position had he been either using the restroom in the restroom or or attempting to leave but also this bar is
such a square that if you walk into the front entrance and there's a little bit of a nook that
you have to get into the bar but once you're actually into the bar you can pretty much see the whole layout of the
bar so if your friend was way over in the corner you could see him so very strange and then for the longest time we
didn't know what the name of the band was and luckily with a new let's say investigator on the case
Nikolas West he was able to come out and say hey we know the name of the band and
the band is called rock house and we were able to actually talked with all three individuals and they didn't have
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read and the bar closes it to so so around 155 ish he is last seen going to talk to the band and you just said that
the band has no recollection of speaking to him and the bar closes at 2:00 there's a bunch of people that are now
exiting we've all been in bars where it's the end of the night the lights go on and the bouncers go through and the
staff goes through and they're like all right everybody out right so no one sees
him from after 1:55 and no one sees him after 2:00 to when the entire bar is evacuated would not evacuated but
cleared I and here's the thing is I'd actually argue so let's just go through a little bit of what the guitar player
told me okay and I actually played with this guy in a band for I want to say at least five years this guy was very
meticulous on how he loaded in his gear how he unloaded gear he was the utmost professional and I learned so I mean 10
years older than me but I it's like you play a gig with him and you go oh that's
how it's done and the guy would get to the gig pull up his car to whatever that the entrance was unload his stuff and at
the end of the night whether he took his guitar out to the car first or his guitar amp out to the car first he
almost did it the same way every time you played with him it was like and so I said hey what do you know about that
night he goes well I know I was there I know I don't remember much but they did have a handful of friends that came out
to party with them because it was around springtime and everybody's like hey let's go check out rock house and I
believe it was like maybe the second time they ever played there they had to go through this back way which there was
no camera on and he remembered that there was no camera on the back because people was ask him over and over hey you
were there the night Brian Schaeffer went missing was there camera on the back door he's like no there wasn't but
they have the the ban on footage going down that hallway or that's what the detectives claim so he says they're
talking he didn't doesn't remember talking to a guy he also is the type of guy that
wouldn't give a guy much of time to talk like oh you want to talk about guitar I
don't really care so he loaded up his stuff he remembers having an explorer at the time and as he's loading up their
Explorer his buddy's not like customers left the same way he left and they were all around his car and he also states
there's three guys in the band they left the same way all of our buddies left the
same way and people that worked in the bar left that way so there was a herd of people that left through that back
entrance and I wonder if that's where the detectives are missing something do they have to be missing something when
they say that everybody was accounted for that's not accurate they can't that can't be possible because maybe that's
true Brian got out of the bar it's true right if well if well how would he get out of the bar without being seen on
either one of those cameras I don't know right so if he didn't get out of the bar
and he didn't crawl up into the ceiling tiles yeah I was gonna ask about the roof I mean I like harkens to ELISA Lam
a little bit but was there obviously searches of the roof and things like that I'm sure that's interesting because
I don't think we've ever gone to that type of discussion actually with anybody I've talked about this case a thousand
times what about the restroom is there a window because now you're saying the roof okay so no window so how would he
get to the roof so we're regarding the band situation the the the stage itself is like you know it's not like separated
from the crowd anyone can just walk right up to this little stage and talk to the band at any time the the two
times that I have been there it's not uncommon for people in the crowd to be handing people on stage drinks so there
is a lot of little interaction right so it's not unheard of that Brian very well
could have spoke to anyone in the band maybe everyone in the band and they not recall him because he's just another guy
at the bar just another twenty-something that they talked to 50 different people
that look like him that night well and well and we're all dudes I mean let's be honest if you're playing guitar and
there's a bunch of girls there to talk to you are you gonna take the time out to talk to them or some dude you never
met but it's also the type of bar that they the management did not you know frown upon the the band getting nice and
toasted why they were there as well so the there is one little there is an interesting thing that I that I've
recently heard on this case is there was another exit from the bar and that was a
fire exit now so this would be one that is clearly marked this as you know if you open this door the alarm will sound
okay you know so it's not really a public entrance or exit the interesting I think that I heard recently and I have
no way of verifying this but someone that was there that night someone the that spoke with Brian and this would be
one of the women that were outside that we see him on surveillance footage at 1:55 go outside and talk to okay
just outside of the bar still inside the building she has said that it was somewhat common knowledge to the
regulars of the ugly tuna that that you could open that fire exit without any alarm actually sounding then and let me
stop you there it it doesn't have to be common for regulars it like Brian wasn't
really a regular there but all he had to do is see somebody do it once that night
that's right he's like I'm so drunk he ignored the sign right true and and and right it's i before what I've been told
that fire exit will lead into what is the construction what would have been the construction area at that time is
that behind the building so captain helped me out with that that would have I thought they I taught a lot about this
like I said it's a new new or build so a lot of people talked about that there was construction happening
some of the restaurants and the building weren't complete yet some of the stores
weren't complete yet that speculation is kind of had thrown out the window recently claiming that the stores for
the most part were done there was some construction going on some light construction some dry walling and stuff
like that the major construction was in the basement that there was I don't believe that the stores were separated
yet in the basement and I think they were trying to separate those to give them possibly storage now talking with
the ban they said hey there was some construction but not anything that you're gonna like fall in a pit to your
death and now this has been put out in the public lately and people have been you put this out on the Internet and a
lot of people come back going you know well you don't know for sure and because that's one of the big things on the
internet is that he fell into a hole and got drywall to over or fell until hole and they put cement on him or he he fell
somewhere and accidentally died in the construction company buried him inside the building and to cover it up this is
interesting I'm looking at this on Google Earth the building and so the parking garage has always been there
correct and that's behind it and it's right on a corner so the construction was in like the little courtyard here on
the side so it looks like you can walk through a courtyard where they probably have tables right it doesn't what I'm
saying is I don't see an area where a construction site would be so big and and sort of treacherous dangerous yeah
let's see yeah there were no like like big holes there were there was nothing that he could have fallen into or
anything like that I mean I it's hard to believe no matter how drunk he is it's hard to believe he could impale himself
or somehow accidentally kill himself while walking through that and then all of a sudden what happens so the next
person who saw him just took him we're talking about search sites yeah once they you know a couple days after
he goes missing we have hundreds of people in that area in that bar searching so I don't think it's that
far-fetched that the guy could have had an accident and hurt himself I don't think it's that far-fetched but what's
far fetch is the building's not huge I mean and if you have hundreds of people searching for them they're gonna they're
gonna come across an injured Brian Schaeffer so right so yeah it's not far-fetched for someone to get into an
accident hit their head did I hurt I mean even if he fell and hit his head though the wrong way and and it kills
him so then what happened to his body where saw that I have a hard time believing that a management group of a
bar while it would look very bad would suddenly turn to cover cover cover this body up let's dispose of it I find it
really hard that normal people would go so far left of center and and deviate off of the regular way of thinking and
not have one person say guys we should just call the cops and and we'll work this out I mean there might be a lawsuit
but we'll figure this out they weren't gonna be culpable for his death you know I don't like I mean if they were weren't
I mean you normal people have that conversation right I mean I guess legally there's maybe an argument but
it's like in that scenario it's not like whoever approached him or found him killed him so why would yeah it's really
hard to wrap your head around the idea that someone came across a deceased Brian Schaeffer and like did something
with his body called a friend you know went to bury him or one person's not doing that now and and to makes it more
unlikely to because then you have two people involved - right - or more that's why I've always wanted you guys to look
into this case because it's funny to me that somebody can look into a case like this and then make the leap that these
construction workers that we don't know who they are we make the leap that they came across
a guy that had an accident and he's dead and they covered it up or there is some
thought that they constructed over him on accident right they didn't see him but as we just discussed this isn't an
area where we're talking about huge pits and and you know deep crevices or anything like that there or that it
wasn't checked right and and the other thing too that we should keep in mind and I understand that you know everybody
has their own work schedule but he's last seen at 1:55 ish he entered that you know they're out partying on a
Friday night so now this is very early Saturday morning he's missing legitimately missing by her
law enforcement by Monday morning so if if nobody was working on that construction on Saturday Sunday the law
enforcement was back in that building I would say what by noon at the latest right I mean that was the first place
they I mean they made it couldn't make a couple phone calls and then they go straight to that building to look for
this individual on Monday on Monday so it seems unlikely to the that he would be overlooked and accidentally
constructed over yeah and also cadaver dogs were brought to the scene and they didn't hit on anything right from my
understanding so that would tell you that that he probably wasn't constructed over so regarding that jumping back to
that fire exit that led to the the construction area and there was an exit you could walk through the construction
construction area and exit the building and the detectives exact words are that would be a difficult area to walk
through sober but the work I think people make the giant leap when they hear somebody say that difficult doesn't
mean like doesn't right yeah that it's a life-or-death situation battle conditions you know it's it could just
be you could trip and fall you know or it could be difficult to navigate your way but the thing is even though someone
could go out that door now what I've been told and what I've heard through interviews with the detectives involved
in this case is there and I found this to be strange there was no camera on that door that you could
access from the fire exit through the construction area however what law enforcement has said on the record that
they did was they went to surrounding two neighboring buildings and businesses that would have had surveillance in the
area and they could determine through that that they they have no reason to believe that he left through that door
so oh that was actually one of my questions the police looked at all the footage from surveillance cameras CCTV
that were available that's why were available in the neighborhood in both directions and found nothing right he's
on the roof he's got to be on the roof I mean where does this person go how how in the world does this person unless he
changed and put on like a scarf around his face or something he a hoodie something well but welcome sight one
particular specific incident where there were I believe there was a scent that the dogs hit on and it was in the
direction of the Wendy's restaurant which I don't I don't know the particulars of where that would have
been I think it might be across the street right what was that a dog that was tracking Brian's sense or I was at a
cadaver dog they the law enforcement later told his father Randy that it was probably just a fluke II thing that they
don't think that the dog was actually hitting on something regarding Brian that it might have been hitting on just
the weight right yeah it been the reason why he was able to tell Randy that is I
do know that they did review footage from the Wendy's restaurant so and again found nothing to give anyone reason to
believe that he walked in that direction and Columbus Ohio has a lot of surveillance cameras from what I
understand as well so he would have been picked up at some points on camera when
he was walking home right I don't know how far they went into that yeah or some of these stores
at that time because canvas was kind of going through a they were revamping it so is there make it up a little bit
nicer a little more college friendly renovating a little more friendly for everyone actually it was not so friendly
of a place at 3:00 in the morning on a Saturday right you did dress in the 90s you know yeah but if you look at it now
you'd be like mild walked anywhere at 4:00 o'clock in the morning down there so regarding where his apartment is in
relationship to the ugly tuna saloon a bar it's my belief that once he got off the main strip there he six blocks away
down King Avenue and the the businesses there's not many on King Avenue there's a big Church there's a whole bunch of
like apartments and these are this is kind of an old area an old Street old buildings old apartments it's my belief
and I'm a very firm on this is that once he got off that main strip I don't think
there would have been any surveillance right or much to pick him up or anyone one thing I can't get out of my head is
you know when you're in a bar when you're in a location or anywhere you know you're often being videotaped and
you don't know you don't you don't know it you're not aware of it and furthermore you don't know where you are
on the frame so if you're trying to hide from a surveillance camera that you don't know what the frame is right how
are you gonna do that it seems impossible right well I'm like I was saying before we law enforcement
released the footage of the escalator and I believe at some point right after he went missing there was a website I
believe they would send you to and it was like an hour long footage who's basically 15 minutes before the bar
closed an hour later and I remember watching the whole hour or whatever was released to the public now it's just
like a couple short clips you see the clip of him going up the escalator you see him talking to the two girls just
outside the bar and then you see him you see some people leaving barbar you don't see Brian obviously but
they've never released that back hallway footage and I just wonder I'd really like for them to release both of the
footages because I think now with people with trained eyes or this armchair detectives how many people could sit
there at their work instead of being on Facebook and go through this footage and
maybe pick up on something that they didn't see yeah it's a great point but I think if they were to release those
those videos then you would have people photographed like the band members for example so you'd have to blur their
faces out and then if you put out a video with people's faces being blurred out the people the armchair detectives
are gonna be like how do we know that's not Brian right well why would you blur out somebody's face why wouldn't you
well if you're a law enforcement that's what they do you don't want you don't want regulars you know I approach on
these people and say and I you know I know what you did yeah that's true that's true well and I'm gonna give a
couple statements that are gonna contradict themselves but regarding that back hallway footage let's call it that
okay this back hallway they say they've seen the footage they saw the band they saw other individuals leave through this
area i I've got to believe that there there is no reason I don't find anything weird about them not releasing it I what
what I think we would have here is if they had reason to believe or any type of actual evidence that they believe
that he left the bar alone or left with someone that would be the statement that
that would be the statements that would be because you need the public's help you need someone to you need the public
to get off this idea of the building and the bar and go okay well did I see something on the street then at least
the general direction we saw him walking towards this street it's only weird in this situation because we have this
mystery about someone vanishing into thin air never leaving a bar every other case
where you have a scenario that's exactly the same but there's evidence or something to suggest that they did leave
their location be it alone or with other people what the statement law enforcement always
gives we yeah this individual is missing last seen leaving the bar alone last seen leaving the bar with other
individuals we would not only like information regarding this missing person but we also want to know who
these individuals are that where this person was seen leaving with and so that would be their there's no reason for
them not to release that type of statement so I I think that we can firmly say that there is nothing to
indicate to the investigators that are closest to this case that that they have proof that he left the bar now here's
where I go to the other end of this and kind of contradict this I think that they while they don't have any proof
that he left the bar I think that all of the investigators all the detectives that work this case the longest I think
and they've not they've not been on record to say this I think they all believe that he left the bar and these
are seasoned detectives well and these are smart individuals and the reason why I say that is because we've had at least
one of the detectives that said you know ever since that case anytime I'm in a large crowded area I'm looking for
Brian's face well if you did if he didn't believe that he left the bar he's not looking for Brian's face and you
know in the crowd and police don't often speak metaphorically right he's not saying you know his face haunts me right
yeah missing person cases can mess with you in that way though for sure and make
you think irrational things but I do I do kind of agree that I can see why law enforcement would believe that he is out
there somewhere because he's not in the bar now would he pardon me for mispronouncing this is it
the oullette Olentangy only angie Olentangy would he be crossing that River the Olentangy River on his way home I
don't believe I don't think so route from in not the most direct route from the bar to his house waters not that far
from the bar but when he wouldn't be crossing some bridge because that's the others
- is that you know guys stop to take a piss ax and fell into the into the river yeah I'll get and get swept away yeah
not a trace of him yeah yeah but Brian would have to actually go out of his way to hit any body of water unless he was
but that's the thing though too is if he gets out of the bar so let's put that to
rest their words note there's no sign of struggle there's no sign of foul play when I have talked to security guards
myself they've said that whole idea that somebody couldn't get out of that complex or that bar without being seen
on video footage is absolutely nonsense that's what security has stated that's obviously not what the detectives in
this case have stated it's not incredibly easy but it's not impossible right what they're saying but but when
you I used to play at a bar across the courtyard and I talked to a lot of security guards in a couple of them said
look I bet every weekend there is multiple people that leave that complex without being seen on on footage like a
clear cut oh I know that's so and so that left the bar so there goes the colonel so that's coming from security
guards and then coming from the band they're convinced that when they left that there was customers that there was
their friends there was people that worked at the bar when your buddy tells you a guy that you know really well it
wouldn't surprise me if if Brian was in that group of people when we left what about the parking garage his friends
Clinton Meredith yeah if the camera footage from those two from the parking garage yeah and Clinton Meredith yes
okay okay so there's camera footage of them walking back to their car well the captain to clear that up for me because
I've heard the same thing too that there is camera footage in that parking garage
which which makes sense this is a even to this day now being 13 14 year old parking garage is still very well lit as
it looks brand-new right it's it's bright as all get-out like you there's not a dark corner in that parking garage
but regarding the footage do you know if that's just footage of incoming and outgoing cars and vehicles or is it
footage of people I think you can see some people walking because what they did know and what there's a video
somewhere I think it was like I said or like you were saying earlier this was covered for like 9 to 10 minutes on a
Dateline or 9 to 10 minutes on a 20/20 or something and at some point they have an investigator walking from the parking
garage and we know that they walked through these two pillars and then they walked out the door to the double door
to the courtyard and then they went up the escalator so if you know that they went through these two pillars you're
seeing them on video footage right and so there's a lot of times when I put played that same area where I'd park on
the same side try to walk the same way that they did and and we know from because it's a it's a paid garage so
Clint and Meredith had to have an exit ticket so they have evidence that Clint and Meredith left when they parked there
right when when they said they left right so here's here's a quick little rundown of the end of the night events
as I understand them and now I'm taking some pieces from people's stories and piecing them together to kind of make it
a longer timeline that makes sense to me according to Clint statement is once Brian came back into the bar this is
after talking to the two girls just immediately outside the main entrance to the bar that he saw Brian enter the bar
this is Clint's words on the record we saw him and enter the bar we lost track of him at some point and then before we
knew it was time to leave so let's extend that on both sides a little bit so at some point I the way
that I've envisioned this going down is that Brian says to Clint and or Meredith
I'm going to go talk to the band or keep in mind this is a this would have been a
loud crowded area we know there's a band playing even if it's a break in music there's a lot of people talking and
shouting he could have he could have said I'm going to go talk to fill in the blank right it could have been anything
they could have misheard him what we do know happens is he does go outside it's fact he's seen on camera he goes outside
any talks to two young ladies there is according to their words they exchanged phone numbers I believe they just gave
him their numbers I believe is the way that this goes down they leave those two girls leave they don't go back in the
bar brian is seen moving as such that you would believe that he's reentering the bar you can't physically see him
walk through the doors then we have Clint's statement of we saw Brian re-enter the bar lost track of them then
it's last call it's time to go we're looking for him we checked the restrooms then we go outside with the rest of the
patrons everybody else has assured out through the doors now we're outside waiting around milling about looking for
him waiting for him to appear from leaving the bar and at some point Meredith starts calling Brian's cell
phone and we do know this happened because of one phone records and to somewhere you can hear a voicemail that
she leaves and I think she says something like it's just a real quick one you know where the hell are you you
know it's something like that and this seems all very the way you would think it would go down we've all been in this
situation the only difference is none of us ever went missing none of our friends
ever went missing you know you you get separated and you call them you send a text well let's let's stay on that point
for a second since this is a roundtable discussion have you ever been out with a
group of friends that you you drove to that bar with three people or however many people and you left without one of
them I've been the guy who's who left I've been the guy that left the group yeah I left all of them there what exit
yes for what mostly because what did you say that was I yeah that's when you don't say goodbye
you just you're just a little jerk drunk usually yeah and that's because you know
if you stay you're going to get over that point of like too much drinking and you know your limits so you you you
gracefully exit the situation bow out you bow out now from there I would walk to the train and take the public
transportation back to my boom you're on camera and I'm on camera yeah yeah I'm also I'm also like clearly intoxicated
and still a wit like I can remember doing this so I'm still aware of what I was doing because I left knowing that if
I had one more that would be too much yeah so it wasn't it wasn't like I was crazy blackout drunk I knew that that
would be the case if I stayed well now its more common for a male to do this yes or this to be because I think
sometimes when people look into this case they go I never leave my friend alone and I'd argue yeah I if if a free
if a female friend wanted to stay back and talk to the band I'm not leaving them but if my buddy was like I'm gonna
go talk to the band I'd be cool dude I'm out sometimes sometimes you just lose track you're doing your own thing
though and I think the other question the narrative was always Brian was gonna go on vacation starting Monday and he
was possibly gonna propose to his girlfriend and so the idea that he was trying to hook up with anybody I think
initially was like taboo to say like because he's missing we don't want to say there's evidence of him trying to
hook up with other girls well there isn't you know he might have gotten someone's number drunk but that's not
hooking up with someone well nobody not be cool but but we do have their statement saying that he was
aggressively hitting on them okay and I think that's yo again that that doesn't point to evidence that he was trying to
have a one-night stand with anybody but he's also aggressively flirting with somebody that he didn't know and did he
have somebody else on the side did he have did Brian have an ex-girlfriend that he called for hookups did anyone
hear about that well so there's some speculation lately that his high-school girlfriend which was real close to him
he grew up in Pickerington and she moved away for school and there was a lot of rumors that been coming out lately that
he had only got on again and off again hook up relationship with her so when she come back into town they would hook
up whether or not she had a boyfriend or whether or not he had a girlfriend so but I as far as that night I don't think
she was he I don't even know if she's in town that night what about his mental psychological autopsy yeah what what's
the mindset of somebody so in the thick of Medical School what's that person like outside of going
out and having some shots and and drinking with buddies this is a really driven guy correct yeah absolutely sit
what he was in in college University for six years at that point or seven years committed to being a doctor
yeah well I see I wonder to me that's debatable whether he was committed to yeah okay
just because there's there's very strong evidence for both sides of that argument
right here's one thing that I found interesting is that he worked at JC Penney at one point - oh yeah they were
talking about that but no I actually think he worked there for a pretty lengthy time and that's my point he
worked there for I think four and a half to five years and so that shows incredible commitment no no JC Penney no
i bitar like as Tanya maybe 11 to 12 years I want it what does that mean no well you're saying that because he
worked at a job for X amount of years that he's driven I would say that that that when we know
they're saying committed okay yeah that's a commitment I mean three or four years because that's a pretty disposable
job no offense to anyone who works at JCPenney I think there's a lot of jobs actually like that exactly yeah so if it
didn't work out for whatever reason or he had to miss a shift and got fired or had to quit because of something awkward
yeah but I got any guys did you know roughly in their 20s that were dating somebody for three years and you want to
you go all there dating for three years they're committed but you know that they're not that committed to the
relationship yes all I'm saying is like just because you have a job for a long time it could have been one of those
jobs where it's like it's really hard to get fired you can kind of do whatever you want all I'm saying is I think I
mean I think it's safe to assume that maybe he was committed but well I think you have to because that's what that's
all we have to go off of is what the record shows the record would show that he was an employee for X amount of years
not X amount of weeks or months so if we have a my argument is that we all know somebody that's had the same job for a
very long time that you would not state them as a committed employee to that employer okay I see your point yes yeah
I think I think what what Timna is more so talking about is committed to that's the certain lifestyle that he has
created and maintained right you know he's a longtime student of the same University
he's a longtime employee of the same employer and so regarding his mental makeup let's say the unfortunate
horrible thing is his mother passes away like three weeks before he goes missing
and so he was very close to his mother there's no one to say anything different and no matter why he was actually here
it's a tragic thing yeah a lot of people close in the circle call him a mama's boy and that's not a bad thing he really
cared about his mom yeah what about his financial situation was he's going to other heritance
I guess so back to the the schooling thing real quick yeah but where I was going with that is there there are
several people in his family that say he chose the medical field as a way of making his parents proud it was
something that it was obvious that they would be extremely proud of and he was very according to according to these
individuals he was very driven to become to work in the field of medicine a lot for his mother for that that
relationship right be it whether she's around or not now the difficult thing about his mental makeup would be his
father did kind of in my opinion skew the narrative a bit on Brian and this is not uncommon for parents or loved ones
to champion or romanticize their missing or lost one but you know the narrative that he kind of put forward and fed to
the public is Brian was well on his way to graduating something that he had you know been working toward for many years
he was getting very good grades always has he was going to propose to his girlfriend probably on this vacation
right but let's dive into that those things right there yeah he never purchased the ring okay that was now and
I understand you can you can't ask somebody to marry you without a ring then well you don't purchase that ring on the
weekend it was like there was there was a couple days left friend to be able to purchase the ring right but there's
there's but there's no evidence of him purchasing a ring to actually there's all this evidence saying he never did
right we don't know that he ever went and looked at anything or pursued that his grades he got if you if you talk to
other family members and now his father's passed away so we could we we don't have him here to argue this but
the other family members say he got ok grades it wasn't like he wasn't like you know
you know Dean's List Dean's List yeah it was a Doogie Howser there's a lot of accounts saying that a lot of accounts
saying that he got excellent grades I think a lot of people will look at someone who's in medical school and
wants to be a doctor they're instantly like very very smart Doogie Howser well yeah but I think sometimes again
it's a missing person you know when you're interviewed how was he as a student excellent he was excellent and
the whole time they're going that guy was a [ __ ] and showed up drunk all the time but I can't say that because
he's missing but he's got a degree in microbiology like I I gotta be honest I couldn't do that I could wake up in the
morning and get a degree I can commit myself as hard as I can and I don't think I'd be able to do it well after
drinking with you last night I agree with you thank you you can see a bit of the confusion regarding his lifestyle
though where I firmly believe that Randy maybe even unintentionally reviewed the
narrative Randy the father yeah okay sorry thank you I think he kind of skewed the narrative whether he did that
knowingly or not and and it might not mean anything at all but I think what it is is it's more ways to suggest that
something happened to my son that was beyond my son's control and the the exact wording that police give when
they're seeking information regarding Bryan's whereabouts or what could have happened to Brian is that they do not
believe that he left on his of his own accord but there his disappearance is mysterious it's unexplainable yes
suspicious disappearance right I'm on the I'm on the old Bing machine and it looks like there's a lot of new
construction in the area so I'm wondering and what there's even a on earth here you can see a construction
site that has just been started and right across the street right obviously that's a that's a new one that's not the
one from when he went missing but there's a building here in the corner that looks brand-new does is this I
don't know how familiar you are with it this looks brand-new but there's a camera right there on top of the
building that that shows the entire intersection so I think is interesting because I
I would just be curious if this building existed back then I also wanted to just
on the surveillance topic real quick I just wanted to mention that it a lot of bars had live streams back back 10 15
years ago right on the internet and it actually looks like the ugly tunas Aluna had a live stream yellow and what makes
this little eerie and we talked a little bit about this last night is pretty much
anything from that weekend as far as promotion who the band was the calendar everything has been swiped away yeah
that's that's a law enforcement thing I think yeah see see that's that's interesting because a lot of people
think well that's shady on their part but law enforcement has said time and time again this company has been very
cooperative to us and it's also weird thing too because if he went missing south of Columbus not by Ohio State
campus this would stay on the Internet information would stay on the internet longer but because it's connected to the
University it gets buried in Google searches like they try to hide some of this stuff d-does who's de who's well
this is an intentional yes it's the university's do it the university is trying to suppress some of the
information that would be put out there yeah and we act their reputation well we've seen this a couple times because
Joey lab you went missing around that area wasn't a student but anytime that there's a been a missing person from
Ohio State you get on Google it's flooded initially and then they start burying that's why that's why I'm always
on Bing because they do not want you they do not want some somebody's parent googling Ohio State and the first thing
that comes up is medical students missing yeah we've heard that with Maura Maria and UMass as well but that's out
of their control to the state of New Hampshire right well that the people who run the White Mountain region junior
college enrollment just went way up okay community school for you so you'll sleep at a community college what about
his cell phone yeah when did it stop ringing that's weird and when did it start ringing again
and then stop so his his girlfriend would try it repeatedly and then one day if so he would always go to voicemail
when she was trying it right one smell yeah and then one day it rang like three times it seems like that it didn't ring
at all from the beginning once they knew he was missing right he would call and it would just go straight to voice so
that night that that so that's Saturday and that Sunday people are calling Brian
now so in the we know the girlfriend was calling on Saturday it's just you know boyfriends girlfriends tend to talk
everyday you know no big deal she's not heard from them but I think she kind of sounds the alarm sometime on Sunday when
she returns she's up in Toledo at the time visiting her family so she's like a two-hour drive from where he was last
seen so she comes back into town and I think by this point Brian's father Randy has already called attempted to call him
but there's no red flags for Randy yet until she returns to town the girlfriend and alerts
Randy saying I you know you haven't been able to get ahold of him they go to his
apartment he's not answering the door then this this bonds the family the girlfriend to start looking in the area
okay and by Sunday night they're looking in dumpsters that's not not a great feeling not a great situation when you
are looking in dumpsters so they at some point notify the police department to which the the the decision is made I
don't know if it was made amongst the family and law enforcement or if it was just made amongst the family that well
if he doesn't show up for this plane ride this this flight to Florida on Monday morning he bought the ticket
yes and the we should throw this out there too this is this is a guy that is very much in debt from his from being a
college guy for so many years so it's it's not like you willy nilly just buy a plane ticket and don't show up right do
we know if he charged it or if he paid debit or whatever my my guess this is just a guess is that he charged it
because I don't remember if it was the private investigator that was later hired by the family or if it was the one
of the detectives involved but when discussing Brian's finances one of them pointed to he had multiple credit he had
you know multiple lines of credit credit card debt okay which is not that uncommon for a student no you have
especially a student of that as far as books and stuff goes those can be very expensive and in JC Penney's not paying
for all that hello guys I'm sorry so back to the cell phone thing though so it's we know people were calling him
that weekend we can assume that there the calls simply to find out where he is continued for some time right but at
some point his girlfriend heartbroken decides to cope with this it's some kind of it's comforting to her to call his
cell phone and she said that she would do it once a day at least once a day and it was usually be in the evening well he
goes missing March 31st April 1st she's calling this daily calling the cell phone daily and it was at some
point in September where the phone always went just straight to voicemail but on this one particular day in
September it rings three times how in the world did she handle that she said it was the best sound she ever heard I
think yeah I mean and then but to so quickly have that hope just crushed right that's insane yeah cuz then they
contact the cell company so what was it so we got a ping right well singular told the yeah we did get a
ping so the ping went to a tower in Hilliard Ohio so Columbus is directly in the center Hilliard would be
as I call it just straight West it's like a straight shot west of Columbus but the newspapers said it was 14 miles
northwest of Columbus so but again if that's an incoming cause that is that reliable because you're now seeing that
with like that non-sighted case where they're saying ping technology especially around that time only worked
when is like outgoing call would be reliable but an incoming call wouldn't be reliable well and to further that
thought they give a pretty detailed explanation for that but it is a little bit of a guess but your but let's keep
in mind where we're hearing the explanation from is law enforcement we're not hearing it directly from
singular who law enforcement spoke with but what law enforcement has stated is that they were told by singular that
what most likely occurred is that there was so much action on the circuit so many people calling or using data
whatever that when she attempted to call him it should have just gone straight to
voicemail but instead there's so much activity it then bounced to another tower and when it bounced to another
tower is when it would have started ringing and then once it's accepted by that tower it's dropped because it or it
went straight to voicemail because now it's actually connecting it's almost like hold on signal for the person
calling even though you think that it's oh my god so he turned on his phone or somebody's got his phone the crazy thing
though too is what's so wild about this it's not unheard of for someone to kill someone and keep their phone I mean we
know Long Island serial killer did it to the point where he not only kept the victims phone but then reached out to
family members of the victim that way that wouldn't harass them right and that would explain the hundreds of cell
phones in your trunk so I remember before this explanation went out before this explanation came
out by police because there was a rumor that his phone rang and my immediate my immediate
is somebody kept his phone and just happened to have it turned on at that moment for whatever reason in a cop a
ring it caught a call yeah my initial thought was it was Bryant turning on turning on his phone in this suburb of
Columbus which is a little distance away and also not where he grew up in ping Currington Pickerington Nigerian not bad
so how far is Pickerington so it's almost on the opposite side so you Columbus would be pretty much in the
middle and Pickerington would be to the east and Hilliard to the west I would have found it to be better evidence if
the ping happened in Pickerington yeah what did you guys hear any rumor about him wanting to break up with his
girlfriend beforehand wasn't there something out there that he said he wasn't coping with the loss of his
mother and he told his girlfriend that he should move on the voicemail he leaves for his girlfriend the same night
that he went missing he tries to call her at some point while they're out bar hopping right and I but he leaves a
voicemail for her that can be heard you can track it down on the internet but it's to me like if you know I'm a I'm a
beautiful woman right you are I'm sitting across it would be or this it would be the voicemail that I as a
beautiful woman would want to receive from a handsome man I mean he it's like him from Tim yes
basically Brian and this isn't verbatim but he calls and he says something like just still out with the friends I they
were asking about you I'm telling them how wonderful you are you are the most amazing woman I love you see you soon is
that does that sound about right captain yeah thank you we should pause and actually
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Brief Summary

Brian Schaeffer vanished in 2006 after a night out, leaving behind unanswered questions and theories about his disappearance.

Key points

A Shocking Discovery. In September, Alexis received a call from Brian's phone that rang three times, raising hopes. However, it was later attributed to a glitch.
The Disappearance of Brian Schaeffer. Brian Schaeffer went missing on April 1, 2006, after a night out with friends. Despite extensive investigations, no evidence of his departure from the bar was found.
The Mystery Deepens. Despite security footage showing Brian entering the bar, there is no evidence of him leaving, leading to speculation about his fate.
The Disappearance of Brian Schaeffer. Theories abound regarding Brian's disappearance, including murder, suicide, or running away.
The Last Seen Footage. Brian was last seen talking to the band before the bar closed, but no one remembers him.
The Fire Exit Mystery. A fire exit may have been used to leave the bar unnoticed, raising questions about Brian's fate.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

Broken-hearted Alexis called Brian's cellphone every evening before going to bed.

Describing Alexis's ongoing hope after Brian's disappearance.

7:54WatchMar 26, 2019

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