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[Music] Brandon Lawson an oil field worker and father of four was last seen when he
left his San Angelo Texas Home on August 8th 2013 while traveling on Highway 277 he
ran out of gas he called 911 and he has not been seen since his cell phone is also missing Brandon is a Caucasian male
he was 26 years of age at the time of his disappearance Brandon is 5'9 in tall 230 lb with brown hair and blue eyes he
was last seen wearing a yellow shirt and camo shorts and white Nike Air Max shoes
if you have any information go to missing Brandin lawson.com [Music] [Music] [Applause]
[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] all right where we left off we were
dissecting Brandon law 911 phone call this has been at the center of this mystery a lot of people have speculated
if you could just figure out what he is saying during that 911 call we could figure out what happened to Brandon what
he was afraid of and maybe where he is today so let's take a listen to that 911 call and this is going to be in its
original form 9 [Music] 2013 050 and 38 seconds 91 emergency yes I'm in the middle of the
field we're just ping guys over right here going toward jaing on both sides my truck ran out of gas there's one car
here got sh the W please okay now run that by me one more talking to him I to him
oh you ran into them okay the do you need an ambulance no I need the Cs okay is anybody
hurt hello hello hello 923 050 and 38 seconds 911 emergency yes I'm in the middle of the
field saer just ping guys over right here going toward avin on both sides my truck ran out of gas there's one car
here got sh the wood PR okay now run that by me not talking to him I ran into oh you ran into them okay got the first
guy do you need an AM yeah no I need the cops okay is anybody hurt hello hello [Music]
hello here's where we're at Captain we got through through the first what I would call first two sentences mhm and
what we what we believe we're hearing there is yes I'm in the middle of field stay Trooper pulled some guys over where
we got hung up is what I would call the third sentence and that was the we're out here they're out here going towards
alberene or Gavin uh on both sides on both sides so let's let's hear that let's hear what
we're calling the third sentence and try to break that Downes so what I'm hearing here is I I
hear they're out here going toward blank on both sides they're out here going towards Gavin on both sides which Gavin
doesn't really register with anything right so us right but are you hearing the same they're out here I think it
sounds more like we're out here we're out here going towards blank on both sides right which which seems which
either way whether you whe whether we go with what you think it is or what I think it is it still gives us you know
kind of a parameter of what where it makes sense as far as the conversation yeah but going towards something on both
sides what does that mean does that mean cuz there I'm picturing like two vehicles going in opposite direction on
on the same road you know that the you can't be going towards the same thing facing opposite directions right it's a
it's a little unclear unless unless he's talking about people being over on the side of the
road right they're on both sides maybe one one's pulled over on one side of the road one's pulled over on the other side
of the road you know that that the best I can come up with there either they're out
here going toward blank on both sides or we're out here going towards blank on both both sides right we we both agree
on the both sides so let's play the next clip and see if that clears the air on anything my truck out of gas there's one
car here got sh the wood my truck out of gas there's one car here got sh the wood
so I'm hearing here my truck ran out of gas M and someone got chased to the woods or I got chased into the woods it
sounds like he's saying Woods at the end there but we we do have a little information going into listening to this
911 call we know that his truck ran out of gas so that makes it kind of easy to hear but I but I think we could hear it
in a in a slowed version out [Music] gas truck out of gas there's one car here now that sounds completely different to
me when you slow it down like that because now I'm hearing there's one car here it almost sounds like there's one
car here guys chased him to the woods yeah I'm going to play you something that I found interesting when I was
dissecting it if you take the part that everybody it seems like on the internet agrees upon is my truck ran out of gas
now I'm just going to Loop the m when you slow down that beginning part the my to me sounds more like a a f is
coming out so it's almost front truck ran out of gas uh now I don't know how much I actually buy that uh I I think
it's I think some of that is when you are slowing things down it starts kind of messing with your head a little bit
there's there's a couple things in there um that that I question right away so you know we've said he sounds to be out
of breath and it almost sounds to me that when he's talking to the dispatcher that some of these words are distorted
because he's like he's inhaling and exhaling as he's saying these words right and therefore with with me I do
hear the F but but it almost sounds like that part of that is him kind of exhaling into the word yeah um I just
wanted to point out not so much to say hey look I think he's say in front more to point out the idea that when you do
slow down and you start manipulating these things you're going to hear things just way different than you're normally
used to hearing something so again aay starts sound like front Truck Yeah but we do know from you know his calls to
other people that his truck did run out of gas so my makes a lot more sense again take into account that this guy's
scared and now now you got to take into a couple accounts one is he scared because there's these guys here and this
the and the state trooper pulled these people over or somebody pulled them over you know it it's very possible that he
says state trooper but for some reason he says state trooper he maybe he only thinks
it's a State Trooper it's out there it's dark it's the middle of the night who knows how long he's been up maybe it's a
security car or something with lights on it you would think was a cop car or state trooper well there's a lot of old
cop cars that they sell to people that don't have the red and blue light but they still have the giant spot yeah
so by having the spotlight maybe he thinks oh well this this thing happen and somebody shine a spot this is a
State Trooper or this is a police officer blue spot mhm can I get a blue spot well the the other thing here too
Captain is that I'm thinking like okay and I know I shouldn't do this I said throw everything out and and create with
a blank canvas and kind of figure out just let your ears tell you what he's saying don't put any pre conceive
Notions to any it of it but however this portion is so garbled to me that I almost have to use what I think I'm
hearing and apply the the previous things to it so again my truck ran out of gas we know he ran out of gas and if
we if we believe our first two sentences yes I'm in the middle of the field ster
stay Trooper pulled some guys over what what I'm going at with that is that that
that last line I'm getting guys chased him to the woods and the reason why I'm kind of coming up with that is he's
already referred to a group of people of as guys earlier um there's one car here
if we're right that he pulled some guys over we would assume that there's one car here and meaning there's one car
that it's not marked it's not the state troopers car right or since he's calling
four cops he's saying hey look there's one there's one cop car here well that's a possibility as well and then but where
I'm going is guys chased him to the woods well the only he refers to the group of guys as guys so if he uses that
same word again to to describe these unknown people to him where he says him I kind of believe that he might be
talking about the state trooper because he's already kind of identified him specifically as a state trooper right
you know um you know he pulled some guys over stay Trooper pulled some guys over
guys chased him to the woods yeah so I think as you know we're not going to figure it all out but let's start with
the idea that there's him there's state trooper and there's guys at least two right so in this story we possibly have
four maybe five cuz maybe there's somebody with the the state trooper mhm let's dive into the next line please
hurry well that's very clear you know he's saying please hurry that's very easy for us to detect right there let's
connect it to the previous line to see if it helps us out inuck out of gas there's one car here got sh the wood
please my truck ran out of gas there's one car here got sh the wood please okay a couple initial thoughts when I listen
to the whole phrase when he States uh guy chased them there's like a kind of pause mhm if there was going to be an
edit that's a time for an edit but what we can clearly hear is and what I mean by edit is that there's some odd stuff
happening as far as the audio clip goes okay where it's like it kind of sounds clipped not so you know uh he is running
out of breath right and I think that's clear and so we got to take that into account but that little phrase It's kind
of clipped so it's almost like maybe there's an edit there if there was going to be edit there that would make it
would make the the clip part would make sense if there was an edit uh but again with his breathing pattern being so kind
of erratic and he's like forcing himself to talk and and still trying to catch his breath it's hard to know for sure
you know what's weird here I almost feel like he started running again at around
this line like because this line is so like the paws you said in the breathing having
I almost feel like he stopped to to make this 911 call he thought he could make the call very quickly he's very afraid
of something that's going on out there and so he's he's trying to stay on the move it's almost like he's at the end of
what he's going to tell the dispatcher he thinks he's provided enough information for them to send some help
and he's going to get on the move again please hurry you know meaning that he he
did I think he was so afraid that he didn't want to he had a way do I stop running to make a phone call and try to
save myself or or does that put me in more danger almost like all right I'll make this phone call and man as soon as
this thing's done I'm going to start up running again I haven't done any kind of
forensic audio before but a lot of people when they're talking about the the transcription is you know the the issue
is anytime she talks we know know what she's saying we know what the dispatcher is saying not a lot of people have been
diving into what he's saying why she's talking yeah let me and so the next line is her talking so let's play that line
let's play that line and then I got some more questions for you okay now okay now can you play that the slow version
okay now okay now all right my first questions that I have for you Captain there's a there's a
couple things here that I want to talk about first off I'm assuming that she sounds a lot more clearer than he does
obviously is that must be partially because of the recording we can assume that she's being recorded much clearer
because she's she's coming she's on a landline he on a cell phone in a bad area as far as cell phone reception goes
he's he's labored breathing right it's probably when the calls are coming in it's probably recorded on the
dispatcher's end and so probably that would make it clearer too but furthermore to make it even harder to
hear Brandon is now you know the way you know the way how an ear responds to certain noises and sounds better than
the rest of us someone if someone's talking in a higher pitch compared to Brandon who has a lower tone MH the it's
my understanding the higher pitch will be clearer is that correct well you're right that's why most people don't
understand me as well as they understand you because I'm so low and manly and sexy and uh no no but it just our ears
are adapted to hear higher frequencies and the and normally around look at like 5K 6K frequency wise is like roughly the
human voice sits nicely and kind of is is and that and that frequency can also become piercing as well okay the thing
here is so she's saying can you run that by me again um she almost can't get that
whole sentence out right she's in the same boat we are we just can't we can't pick apart everything he's saying yeah
and he's out of breath and that's clear and then he cuts her off and he says like the one I'm talking to him
yeah he he starts to talk and I can't hear the first word or if he's like building up to talk or just breathing
and I hear and we're not talking to him yeah we're not talking to him or the one
I'm talking to him or when I'm talking to them which which is here's the the other
thought that I have on this on this particular line mhm this line almost sounds to me like he might be still on
the phone with the dispatcher but actually talking to somebody else that's in front of him yeah it's very possible
and we're not talking to him um like somebody else asked him a question because he almost seems to be saying
something that doesn't go along with what she's asking him and it's almost like he's responding to somebody else
that's asked him a question yeah and I think if somebody asked me my final opinion on that line of what he's saying
I'd say it's inaudible to me okay I'm going I'm going to go with and we're not talking to him and here's the next
line I we'll do that again slowed down need ran into I'm hearing not till I ran into him
or I totally ran into him but but the thing I start to question here Captain is is he correcting himself I'm almost
wondering if maybe that first line maybe he misspoke right because the cuz he's trying to catch his breath we're not
talking to him I totally ran into him I you know really close yeah yeah I wonder if he's
almost correcting himself that he that he misspoke uh partially because the dispatcher is talking maybe he's not
fully registering what's going on there's a lot going on at the moment for Brandon and I think that's the only way
I can almost make sense out of that first line you know we're not talking to him I totally ran into him you know
what's odd to me and and maybe you don't find this odd but it's it's just every time I play this
stuff over and over like this it's like it's like it gets sadder and sadder be because it it sounds more
scary the more we dive into it really I mean the more you like think about the lines and think about what's going on
with Brandon MH it does get it does get more sad it you know when you listen to it at full speed just once through it
doesn't really hit you yet how scared he sounds until until you really get into it here and I think it's that just uh
that protector in me where you just wish that you can it's cuz you're hearing it
so it feels like it's it's happening right now and that you there's some way that you could help him you're exactly
right you know but you can't do anything but just listen and try to dissect the next line we will hear is the Patcher
talking ah you ran into them okay ah you ran into him okay so a lot of people have speculated that they can
hear gunshots I would say that you could possibly make something out there's definitely like a hit in this okay a and
it'll happen right after like right when she starts talking you'll hear oh you ran into them
okay ah you ran into them okay now that could be Distortion that could be anything happening it could be her
hitting her hand on a desk or or anything so Brandon could be coughing you know sometimes when you're at a
breath you're running there's a cough right and to me if he was coughing it was he's holding the phone away from him
when he cough which most people would do gotcha so let's dive into the next line
the got the guy let's hear that again one more time the got the initially what I hear him say is I got
the first guy or got the first guy now there's a lot of other speculation that people think he's saying shot the first
guy yeah that's that's the scary line that a lot of people go to is he shot the first guy or they shot the first guy
um I hear just the first guy like like he's answering the dispatcher when she goes ah you ran into him just the first
guy just the first guy um but I've also heard people say yes the first guy um or he got the first guy
you know remember we're talking maybe somebody got chased into the woods he got the first guy got the first guy or
shot the first guy yeah I really to me my ear says he's responding to the dispatcher and he's saying just the
first guy again going with the thought that there's more than one guy there that he doesn't know or recognize he
can't put a name or title to these people mhm and he's clarifying yeah I ran into him but it was just the first
guy there's a couple things I found during this clip when I was like slowing it down and manipulating it more that I
think will you'll find pretty interesting uh but we'll get to that right after this quick beer
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about this clip I'm going to actually slow it down and let's see if you could see what I'm talking about okay I I
guess here would be the better word before he starts talking there seems to be about three syllables and
you can visually see it on the waveform can you just Loop that section that's not Brandon's voice at
all like it doesn't have the same tone it doesn't like it doesn't even come off to me as if the phone is away from his
face and and you're hearing Brandon talk it's doesn't sound to me like him at all
and we're going to hear another clip later a little you know not much later where a lot of people speculate that
it's another person talking but I've never seen on any message board and now what I did was I took that clip it's you
know the slow down version I took that clip and all I did was you know cut off the front part and then I added some
volume just so you can hear it but that's all I did and it's it's definitely you know it's weird cuz I I
hear you know God bless you or confession yeah I heard heard I heard confession too or is that you or yeah is
that you the thing here that that's even more scary though captain and look here's
what I can tell you just as far as the audio engineer goes like a lot of people talk about that if somebody was far
away maybe a couple feet away MH they not everything that they reg not everything that they say is going to
register on a cell phone right but this was loud enough that it it registered a waveform like I said before you can
visually see this yeah I saw it on your computer right there and and I was actually convinced that there was
nothing there until you you pointed it out on the computer to me slowed it down and then we hear it confession the and
again it's not Brandon's voice I I would put my stamp on that uh the thing that scares me big time is what would your
stamp say um Captain Morningwood Morningwood please send beer uh the the thing that scares me though here
is where before I thought before you slowed that down I thought he's saying just the first guy responding to the
dispatcher right now it almost sounds like this this is somebody asking him a question not the dispatcher and he's
responding to whomever that person is no that's not what I hear that's what I hear it has is the guy is talking and
saying something and he is telling the dispatcher that's the first guy oh like like okay now you got his voice on
recording right that's the first guy but he okay so he had and so and then the whole idea when he said well I ran into
him and then we've talked about well just the first guy yeah but but now with this other piece of information maybe
he's saying hey that's the first guy now I'm going to assume here because I don't
know for certain but he has a Droid phone uh is what's listed as his phone yeah and I'm assuming that that would
work very much the same as the iPhone the M the microphone on the iPhone well it depends on depends on who you ask
yeah there's some you know Apple elitist and stuff I'd say they're all they're all pretty compatible I'm halfway asking
you and halfway thinking through this out loud here but I'm just thinking with with my phone like you said it's even if
I pull it a certain distance from my face you're not going to you you may not hear me talk at all right that would be
a blessing um but the thing is this guy whoever whoever says it's am I crazy it sounds like it definitely sounds like a
man's voice to me yeah um he he's loud enough or he's close enough that it got picked up by the phone that it got
picked up and if you're right where he's trying to point out to the dispatcher that that's the first guy mhm then then
it's loud enough to Brandon that he thinks it's being recorded and very clearly as well well then it changes
your perception before we've kind of thought that you know he ran into some bad dudes and there's some stuff going
down maybe with the state trooper who knows but that he was running away but what if you know he ran out of gas ran
into the situation the cop uh you know ran after these guys and he ran after the other guy mhm you know that's like
guy's trying to get away or something and he chased B them down you know and that's why he's calling the cops I need
the cops yeah cuz I got you know cuz think about this way if I broke up a fight you know who who am I going to
call I can't contain them forever I need the cops you know I got one of the guys
right here but if he's responding to this person that we cannot see that we cannot
identify then it do you feel like that must be somebody in an authorative an authoritative figure meaning like he's
he's choosing to talk to this person over the dispatcher at this point you know he's the the dispatcher is
essentially his Lifeline right so you have to decide whom you're going to answer if you only think you may have a
limited amount of time to speak um clearly if if he is responding to this person that we don't don't know
anything about this person may may be in a situation to to that Brandon thinks he
it's more important to answer the man than the than the dispatcher no I I don't think he's answering the man
though is what I'm saying I think he's telling the dispatcher that's the first guy because if he was answering that guy
he might have you know sometimes when you're talking to somebody on the phone and somebody asked you a question then
you mov the phone away MH and so then then his volume would have got smaller uh it would have been quieter it doesn't
get smaller his answer is the same that's the first guy yeah his the phone is the phone at that point is not moving
away from his face yeah wherever it's at when he started the the sentence it's there the entire time mhm okay the next
line is going to be the dispatcher do you need an amulet do you need an amulance so a lot
of people talk okay again I haven't seen a lot of dissection of this I and the gunshots a lot of people talk about
during the whole tape you can kind of hear these gunshots in the background I some some of them that people claim
are gunshots they they don't even register you know in the wave file there's really no movement and this one
I hear a gunshot at the beginning so listen for that do you need an amulance do you need an ulent I'm going
to just solo that just the part where I think I hear a gunshot and I'm going to just make it a little
[Music] louder but then that's the second time that you think that you're hearing a
similar noise that you're describing as a possible gunshot yeah and the first time that we you know anytime that we
pick a case it's always about how do we present it and and can we bring anything
to it it's just like you know the the the requests for John Benet Ramsay have kind of you know simmered down a little
bit because uh you know the documentary did such a good job what can we bring to
that case I don't know right and there's a lot of other podcasts that cover this
you know good friends of ours you know y uh the vanish covered it uh was really good episode Generation Y those are
great guys both were fantastic episodes by the way um but we really wanted to dive into just the 911 call because when
you and I looked into this case we couldn't we couldn't tear ourselves away from the 911 call I mean that's I just I
sat my I sat in my car and listened to it a dozen times at different speeds and then when I got home I I was convinced I
couldn't hear it clear enough because I was in my car and there was other noises
going on and so then I listened to it in in the basement at my house in the quietest room that I could find yeah and
AR like I like I was trying to say before I was so rudely interrupted oh I'm sorry sorry about that as much as I
interrupt you you you're allow no I was just trying to say that if we don't think we can bring anything to the case
we don't normally cover it right you know there's no point of of us covering cases that been covered so many times
but like you said you listen to a couple episodes you kind of dive into what's happening and I stopped everybody's
podcast and started listening to the audio clips over and over and then I have the ability to throw this into a
recording program kind of manipulate some of the fre frequencies I can Loop stuff I can slow it down and I spent
hours and hours and there's definitely I don't know four or five times that there's possible gunshots
well let me ask you this because okay go ahead let's not say gunshot right let's
just say that there is a bang that's happening a little bit of a distance from him mhm and but it's loud enough to
register on the phone and to be clear you're stating that this is the second time in the recording that you've heard
a similar noise right and the first time it is more faint it it seems to be quieter or further away from him for
whatever reason am I correct there because to me this this one that you just pointed out I hear it a little more
clearly than the first time right right and you hear that initially but then when I looped it I raised the volume so
it's going to be a little bit louder but here's the thing that you have to think
about if he's running away from the scene and it depends on where the phone is facing cuz we're going to look at the
phone as a microphone you know so if the you know when I'm talking here it sounds
one way but if I start talking here you know it's whatever Direction the the phone is facing right now any chance
okay it's not you're saying possible gunshot at least a bang at least a bang it doesn't to be honest with you to me
it doesn't sound either time it doesn't sound like a gunshot but it also is not clear enough for me to decide what it
sounds like well that's cuz you're not from the streets I've I've heard heard one uh one theory that I liked was that
somebody described the noise that like a semi might make you know sometimes when
you hear a semi-truck going over a bridge uh and you hear that clack clack right clack and and what what this
person's theory is is that you're hearing the semi in the distance going over something and that's why he thinks
it gets louder because it's getting closer to where Brandon's phone is that's very possible that's very Poss
the the other thing I I wonder about though too is is this something could this be noise that's being created
because Brandon might be running you know he's stepping on brush or going through going through uh you know rough
terrain maybe yeah but to me this sounds more like a hit but there's more than just the potential gunshot going on
right there yeah I think one of the things when people are analyz izing this stuff is they're not listening why she's
talking and he's clearly saying something so we have this bang possible gunshot and when she starts talking he
is saying something or somebody else is saying something in the background do you need an
AM do you need an AM slow it down so we can hear it one more time do you need do you need an
play it again do you need an so right before she starts talking what I hear is a a
clear yeah and that's coming from somebody that's very close to the phone so I hear
a or a and then in the background you hear that guy has hurt yeah it does sound like it does sound like someone is
saying that guy's hurt let me ask you this because that's gunshot or it sounds more to me like that guy's hurt yeah the
thing is though I want to ask you not so much what you're hearing but what you're
seeing on the screen there because there's certain there's certain levels here and you can see certain you know
sizes on the screen which kind of indicate to me how close or how loud something is according to the microphone
well right but the problem is is that she's talking mhm so she is setting basically the bar of How High the wave
is going to be because it's kind of like you know water right okay we got two streams of water mhm her stream is
pushing more through but and there's still other water coming through gotcha so and so I can see how loud the the
total file is or how much total water is but I can't find out how much how loud they are so if that's Brandon talking
underneath or if it's somebody in the background talking it they're they're low enough that they're being basically
surrounded audio-wise by if it is Brandon talking his phone is not by his face at that point okay so let's just
take a I'll Loop that again need do you need an amance do you need an amance if he is saying that guy's hurt
right he it it wouldn't come off to me as he's responding to the dispatcher and this is what this is what scares me this
is what is making me very angry sitting here listening to this it makes me feel the thing here is he I don't think
think he's responding to the dispatcher and the problem I have with that is that
he if he's saying that guy's hurt to somebody else that's there why is he speaking for them the the the person
must be so hurt or unconscious or something that they they cannot respond themselves and the scary thing here to
me is if he's saying that guy's hurt and whoever he's talking to he's not afraid
of right so then let's just hypothetically state trooper pulls some guys over he's walking it onto it [ __ ]
starts getting crazy he starts running right maybe there's two state troopers right one you know to chase him into the
woods and then all of a sudden he's with this may like I said maybe he chased down one of the guys but the guy was
already hurt for whatever reason this a State Trooper or somebody you know somebody that he's not a afraid to talk
to comes up to him and he says that guy's hurt mhm and then and that's pretty much it and so at that point what
if the state trooper or whoever takes his phone I I feel like here that that the person that he's talking about that
he's saying that guy's hurt that whomever he's responding to that that he doesn't identify that guy that's hurt as
being with the person he's responding to that just that's just kind of my gut feeling there um where I think if you
saw two people in similar uniforms you identify them as being together and you know I I would think he would say he's
hurt I you know I'm I'm really maybe looking into this far too much but I kind of feel like that guy's hurt kind
of he he's talking about someone that he doesn't identify to to be with the person he's responding to well let's
play everything everything that we have up to this point in real time 91 emergency yes I'm in the middle of the
field we're just cring guys over right here going toward jaing on both sides my truck ran out of gas there's one car
here got sh the wood please hurry okay now run that by me talking to him I ran into him ah you ran into him
okay first do you need an ambulance so here's what I have so far captain I have yes I'm in the middle of
a field stay Trooper pulled some guys over they're out here going towards blank on both sides my truck ran out of
gas MH there's one car here the guys chased him to the woods please hurry and then he's you know then he's
interrupted the dispatcher and then he says and we're not talking to him not till we ran into him just the first guy
and we hear that faint to me what sounds like that guy's hurt Let's uh play the next clip see if we can find anything
odd there now I need the cops okay now I need the cops okay now I'm going to play this clip slowed down
twice and then I'm going to make it even slower twice no I need the cop now I need the
cop now I need the CR okay now I need the CR okay now on this clip there's a lot
of speculation that the first yeah is coming from another person and like I said I do believe that there's times on
this tape that there's somebody else talking uh on the phone other than uh BR Brandon mhm so but in this case I
actually don't hear it as being such I actually hear the yeah as being Brandon if you look also at the waveforms the
the times that I think it's possibly somebody else talking the waveforms are a lot smaller so meaning it's also just
quieter this one is very comparable the yeah is almost you know just a slight it's a hair off of what the no I need
the cops is yeah and I think the situation here is that he's I think he's correcting himself again because I think
he is anticipating that she's going to say we're going to send the cops or you know the police are on their way um and
it it's almost like because he doesn't know that she hasn't understood what he has said right I think he thinks she
knows what he's saying yeah that yeah and he he's he's rethinking it yeah no I need the cops M here's the next line and
it's pretty much just the dispatcher is anybody hurt hello I'm going to play this whole end
clip um slowed down and the in the whole length so you'll hear the whole thing is anybody
[Music] hurt hello [Music] hello hello now what I'm going to do is actually take the in between Parts where
she's not talking I'm going to make those a little louder [Music] mhm is anybody
[Music] h [Music] [Music] hello [Music] hello hello I just listening to this like this
it gives me the heie jeebies yeah so here's what I think I'm hearing there from you know with Once We Were the
dispatcher it almost sounds to me like um like a quick inhale and then an exhale and then there's some clicks
happening there and that could be the phone in the pocket that could just be having the
phone down by its side I the the tough thing here for me is there's never a time or or never a
time that I can find where there's a spike M so it doesn't seem like Brandon dropped the phone no You' think that
you'd hear kind of a rattle or something uh and and you you really don't do you hear like a there's a portion there
towards the last time that she says hello there's a portion there that it almost sounds like there's a a droning
noise or like a fan or something well Mike well it's it slowed down but some of my other thought is when you speed
that section up it kind of sounds like kind of a click click and then you get this almost like a car's driving by
right that's what I I hear like a like a motorcycle or a car yeah or a truck or something yeah yeah I don't know it's it
it's creepy number but you also think you might hear someone talking I think I can hear somebody talking before the
last hello I can hear uh human and I need to spend more time on that section uh I mean I can try to the problem is
sometimes when you take these clips you can take a very small clip and you can normalize it and that just basically
boosts the overall gain uh that again makes it more distorted but what um I would I would
really like to take this in with guys I went to school with that that don't really know much about the case at all
and have fresh ears listen to it and and in in actual Studio I mean we we're in our garage and we have some studio like
quality mhm but nothing like they have uh do you think that do you think that if what I think I'm hearing is the
inhale exhale do you that's possibly coming from the the dispatcher as well okay
and okay so basically uh after listening and dissecting all this we come to the conclusion that we know less really than
when we started well but here's the thing I'm looking over what I wrote down um do you mind if I go through it one
more time go yeah okay so I'm going to try to do a um he he's saying that uh people because he can tell that my brain
hurts from all this editing yes I'm in the middle of a field state trooper pulls some guys over they're out here
going towards gavlin on both sides my truck ran out of gas there's one car here guys chased him to the woods please
hurry and we're not talking to him not till we ran into him just the first guy that guy's hurt yeah no I need the cops
yeah the thing here is and this is what you know just reviewing what I wrote down and I'm not saying that I'm right
but but the thing that that's just your guess imation this is my guess after looking at it but the the line that
doesn't make any sense let's say to me when I read through this all of the lines seem to work together in a way the
line that doesn't really make any sense is that one in the middle and we're not talking to them that that one just
doesn't seem to really fit really anything else and and what I mean is like cu the next line is not till we ran
into them according to me that yes those lines go together but what I'm saying here is we ran into them kind of goes
with with what story you think you're hearing in the beginning where we're not talking to him doesn't really doesn't
really seem to make sense with any of the other stuff here there I mean there's a lot that doesn't make sense
and again the the issue here is that if he had no you know prior drug use then people wouldn't jump to that they' jump
to maybe he's intoxicated and I think people start getting that embedded in their head subconsciously when they keep
slowing down the tape he sounds intoxicated so therefore he's intoxicated when it's played at normal
speed I do not hear intoxicated guy I hear a guy that is scared I hear a guy that uh is you know you know his
adrenaline is racing M and and it's it's weird and then the problem with all this is that he the
brother gets a call saying hey I'm down the road and uh and and I think we have evidence from the 911 tape that he's
moving yeah so he's moving so that you know statement lines up and then he says that he's bleeding yeah so did he get
hit by somebody and the thing is you know I've heard people say that at the end of that tape that that they hear
someone saying help me uh I don't hear that anywhere um I don't even hear what sounds like anybody close to the phone
saying talking to into the phone right um the thing here though too is you know because some people say well that was
Brandon's last words it couldn't have been because we know that he later then called his brother um you know so one
thing though too Captain is we we definitely have a situation here with whatever's going down is not doesn't
sound to me like it's going down around his vehicle around Brandon's truck it sounds to me like he's in another
location like he's already started walking and distanced himself from that truck did did did he did somebody pick
him up and offer to help and then they ran into some not till we ran into them you know did they run into somebody's
vehicle uh you know the the first call goes out to to Kyle at 1238 the 911 call is at 1250 now I
wouldn't think he would have gotten too far on foot the most maybe a mile yeah let's let's say a mile um and then but
we have the Kyle saying he didn't get to the officer until 1:10 so now we have 20
minutes minutes go by where where Brandon is reaching out to the brother again after the 911 call so so yeah
again another mile down the road maybe more yeah but you would think that whatever whatever it sounds like he's
trying to describe sounds like a pretty chaotic scene to me if if what I think he's trying to describe is going down to
me it would have had to have happened more than a mile away from his truck I think that that Kyle or the deputy would
have seen some kind of commotion or heard something at some point [Music] mhm yeah I don't it's I mean that's why
it's this a crazy mystery it's um I don't know if we'll ever know I'm really frustrated I'm I'll I'll
I'll type this up and leave it on our uh on our blog to you know to to play what
I to write down what I think I heard yeah I'm I'm freaking EXO exed so uh final thoughts right yeah the final
thoughts if I'm going by what I think I hear there's him there's a State Trooper
there's two guys at least two guys he may have gotten a car with somebody before he enter you know came across
these state trooper and the other guys um I think that he's saying that the state trooper got chased Into the Woods
by these guys um the problem I have with that story you think you would have that
that's a newsworthy story that's not something that just happens and and it's never reported I mean state troopers
call for backup if if able uh if a State Trooper is missing or goes down yeah again it's depends on how you go with it
was was he being chased or was he chasing somebody and and I yeah I I think it comes down to you either you
either believe that he's on drugs and this is all just I ious in his head or he's not on drugs and what he's saying
is actually true yeah I there there was a report of his cell phone uh pinging near the Colorado River um but I want to
be but this is also only like I don't know like three or four miles from his vehicle the problem here is that what
they have stated is as far as the technology goes is that those pings can be off by anywhere from a mile and a
half to three miles right so therefore that I I don't think that can tell you anything what where that ping
is yeah my final thoughts on this are is kind of simple I mean I think what he's
saying U makes sense with the evidence that shown on the tape MH and I also believe that there's going to be
technology and probably some people out there that have better tools and better skills than I have that could probably
uncover some of the things I can't and I think that uh like I said there's a bunch of evidence I think on the tape to
kind of coincide with what he's saying so you know it's it's a tough one in my thoughts and prayers go out to uh his
family and his friends and and I'm going to try to do more diving in and I think
it was kind of a interesting experiment to kind of dive into these this audio clips as much as we have well you were
absolutely able to point out some things to me that I wasn't able to hear on my own um and and I didn't hear them
because you pointed them out to me I heard them because you enhanced it and you brought it up to a level or slowed
it to a level that I could hear things that I was missing before and I appreciate you pointing those out to all
of us and and taking the time and and really editing this thing and dissecting it and chopping it up as much as you did
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August 9th - 2013, Bronte, Texas- A young father of four left his home in the middle of the night. While driving his truck to his father's house he runs out of gas. Brandon Lawson is on a dark highway in the middle of nowhere. Armed with only his cell phone Brandon goes walking in search of gas. Something happened that scared Brandon because just before 1 am, he calls 911. I'm in a field... I need the cops... Please hurry...Are these Brandon's last words? Tonight we go through the timeline of Brandon's disappearance and we try to dissect the now famous 911 call.

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Brief Summary

Brandon Lawson's 911 call is analyzed, revealing potential dangers and mysterious circumstances surrounding his disappearance in Texas.

Key points

A Birthday Shout Out. The hosts share a birthday message from a listener, adding a personal touch to the episode.
Brandon Lawson's Mysterious Disappearance. Brandon Lawson vanished after running out of gas in Texas. His 911 call raises questions.
Dissecting the 911 Call. The hosts analyze Brandon's frantic 911 call, searching for clues about his fate.
Speculation on the Audio Clip. Listeners are intrigued by the ambiguity of the phrase 'just the first guy.'
The Dispatcher Interaction. The conversation reveals tension between the dispatcher and the caller's responses.
The 911 Call Analysis. A deep dive into the 911 call reveals conflicting interpretations of Brandon's state.

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