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[Music] [Music] he the family of a teenager murdered 34 years ago is making a new plea to solve
that crime they are frustrated now at the progress on the case and demanding answers from investigators ttv's Chuck
strickler has more on their new push for justice well it is one of the oldest unsolved murders in Franklin County we
talked to the family of Bill cin a month ago on the 34th anniversary of his death
and today Bill's sister continues to post tweets like these as if Bill were talking from beyond the grave and she
has only one goal to never let Bill's voice go silent I never wanted to be a best kept
secret for 34 years I don't have a clue then or now Kathleen Kine speaking for her brother Bill a battle she says is
going nowhere he's not just a box of files sitting on a shelf Gathering dust you know he had a future he's 14
years old he had his whole life ahead of him somebody decided to end it Phil means was found just down the street
from his house on January 7th 1980 years have passed the case has grown cold and
she feels even today her family has been left out in the cold it's frustrating trying to get answers trying
to get somebody to return phone calls return emails to get some kind of information here's one to the Franklin
County Sheriff's Department says please don't give up on me now the cin family says there were certain pieces of
evidence found here at the murder seen a knife a beer bottle and what could be the most significant Bill's scarf that
was used to strangle him now a body fluid was found on that scarf and the family says it was supposed to be tested
for DNA last year but they are still waiting for answers there's got to be somebody that can do something there's
no reason to stop there's always going to be some hope and she will continue to pressure and publicize her plight in
whatever way she can as the Battle For answers goes on to find Bill's killer if my murderer has tormented you for
decades and deep down you know what happened to me share now Franklin County Sheriff Zack
Scott tells me that the DNA sample in question is so small that if they use it once to test it may be gone forever and
that's why they are taking extra time to review it he says his detectives will continue to work the case Kathleen says
an email from a detective promises a follow-up meeting with a family she says she hopes that happens in the meantime
these tweets she says will continue [Music] on the evening of January 7th 1980 14-year-old Bill coin is helping his
father work on the family car he went two doors down to get his sister to walk home from a birthday party
this is Bill's little sister Kathleen who is only 9 years old however the party was not over Kathleen does not
want to come home yet and ask Bill to come back and get her later right so good like a good older brother he's
going to come home and then he's going to tell his parents hey I'll go back and get her later no big deal and I think
the way that this thing went down Captain is that Bill's Father Robert and his mother they the three of them were
supposed to go to the mall that evening while Kathleen was at this birthday party now they didn't go to the mall
because the family car was not running properly uh and at this discovery his father Robert and Bill decide that
they're going to stay in the garage and work on the car MH now throughout this night bill will be helping his father
and he even brings his father a cup of coffee um his two brothers he has two older brothers they're at home at this
time along with their mother all are presumably in the house now after bringing his father a c a couple coffee
for the second time Bill goes out to the goes out of the garage and goes to the front porch front yard area of the
property well let's talk a little bit about this neighborhood I mean so this is Columbus Ohio so we're pretty
familiar with this but those of you that aren't uh if you ever seen the show The
Wonder Years M um now that show was set back in time a little bit but similar uh
neighborhood yeah I actually lived in this neighborhood at one one time for about a year or so and you've been out
there to visit me during this time and it's a small neighborhood uh and to describe it to everyone the the best way
I would describe it is there's very few what I would call like straight roads it's a lot of winding roads through this
neighborhood and all the houses are they're smaller homes um and probably were built in the 60s and late 60s I
would guess um but that gives you a picture of this neighborhood small homes windy roads the homes are pretty close
together yeah when I was first looking into this case I I thought there would probably be some confusion cuz you know
this happened on a Monday mhm but there was a birthday party yeah well so what's
up with that yeah it's a strange evening to have a birthday party in my mind but
take note of this people out I'm I'm being honest shooting from the hip here cuz there are some parents out there
that are like you know what my kid was born on January 7th we have the party on January 7th you know what take into
consideration all your guest and do this thing on the weekend please yeah I I don't know if that happens as much
anymore but okay so it's it's Monday night working on the car last time they see Bill is he delivers this cup of
coffee and they're probably trying to settle in for the night M and you they have work and school the next day so uh
where's Bill well exactly because Robert is done Bill's Father Robert is done working on the car at some point he
comes inside he talks to his wife he expects to see Bill inside the house Bill's not there m you know she says the
obvious thing oh I thought was out in the garage with you no he must have went back to collect Kathleen from this
birthday party right they go down to the birthday party Kathleen's there bill is
nowhere to be found they call this into the local police department now we said this was we said this is Columbus Ohio
but this is outside of 270 so 270 is the outer belt freeway that goes around Columbus Ohio this is what would be
called the West Side um and it's typical back in these days that a small Police Department called New Rome uh might have
actually been the police officers that would have responded to this call right so we have a 14-year-old boy missing and
it's believed his father would later report that they believe that bill was probably last seen about 20 minutes or
so before they realized he was not at the house right so not long after they report him missing the police are there
they're going to surveillance the whole area for uh I I believe 9 45 or so yeah around 9:45 the police are on the scene
looking through the neighborhood Billy's father and a neighbor and Billy's two brothers would end up finding Bill near
train tracks at the end of a deadend street uh bill is lying face down in a snowy ditch his winter scarf is knotted
tightly around his neck and he is unconscious uh this spot strange enough Captain is only about two blocks away
from the family's home and as we said this is near train track so he's lying face down amongst you know trash beer
bottles Rusty car parts that sort of thing uh Bill's brother Mike using a pocket knife cuts the scarf from Bill's
neck uh Bill's father and older brother Bob perform CPR on the young man until the ambulance arrived bill was
transported to a nearby hospital uh the hospital this is called Doctors West uh it's maybe just 2 or 3 miles away so a
very quick drive to the hospital H but unfortunately at the hospital bill is pronounced dead uh this would be around
11:00 p.m. at night the cause of death was listed as strangulation law enforcement says other than the
strangulation there were no other signs of violence or a struggle nor was Bill robbed upon arriving at the hospital law
law enforcement was working with two theories either bill was murdered or this was some kind of suicide now it
wasn't in till April 22nd that they were I don't even think they even said suicide too I mean wasn't at some point
they thought it was possibly an accident yes you are exactly right but but upon arriving at the hospital these are the
two theories that they're working with uh it wasn't until April 22nd that they released the coroner's report the
coroner ruled the the death of homicide uh the cause of death was actually you know I said strangulation earlier but
the cause of death was actually Cardiac Arrest due to compression of the neck by
ligature mhm um you know what does that mean okay so basically he has a heart attack because there's extreme trauma to
the body you know you're cutting off the airway he's unable to breathe and this this brought Upon This Heart Attack that
ultimately killed him right but that's probably by more Force than if he accidentally you know tightened the
scarf around his neck too tight mhm it would probably because you know a lot more force on the neck might cause caus
that heart attack is yes is that correct yes well I but I also want to touch upon
something real quick here um you know we said that this he went missing and was found unconscious on in January of 1980
it wasn't until April late April of 1980 that the coroner's report was released now I've heard a lot of people and read
a lot of people stating that you know oh it's the 1980s they didn't really know what they were doing back then and this
was the cause for the delay of this Coroner's report I actually don't believe that to be the case at all I
think that they probably knew very quickly within days of him arriving at the hospital of what was the manner of
death uh I believe that what actually happened here Captain was there may may have been a dispute between the
sheriff's department and the coroner as to the cause of death is there any other
findings that the coroner finds yes uh a toxicology report shows volume in Bill kin's blood but other than that there
are no signs of personal drug use by the 14-year-old now law enforcement are not
sure how Bill got the volume or why it was in his system the coroner uh publicly declares the death a very
bizarre case and we're going to see why very quickly because it was quickly reported after his death after the young
man's death that on two previous occasions uh the first being in September and then again in October of
1979 bill was attacked by two unknown males and he was choked on both of these occasions Bill coin as we said he's 14
years old and I want to paint a picture of Bill for you now 14 sounds very young
I've seen pictures of Bill and Bill is 6 foot tall about 175 lbs uh he's a freshman at wesland high school he's you
know from all accounts he's the the teachers say he's a perfect student his parents say he's a perfect child um he
play play the piano he was in the school choir he was a newspaper boy yeah he he
had a newspaper route for some time now I do want to touch upon this uh 6ot tall
175 lbs because I've seen pictures of Bill he does not look 14 years old to me he he looks 17 or 18 He looks almost
like a grown man you know when you picture a freshman in high school you you typically don't think to see
somebody 6 foot tall 175 lbs so he's a he's a tall big kid let's talk about these attacks that took place in
September and October of 1979 now Bill received some threatening notes at school it's reported that he
received three to four notes that were found in his locker these were given to detectives eventually uh some of these
were typed some were written and some were cut from pieces of magazines now Bill's best friend and his girlfriend
also received a note in their lockers these notes were typed in red ink one saying that blood will spill um another
saying it's bill has three months left so P.S make the best of it the the note that said that Bill had three months
left is the note that was delivered to his girlfriend's Locker well it seems like somebody has way too much time on
their hands the other thing Captain there is one note that was found at wesland high school after Bill's death
that says you are next signed with a red s this is according to Bill CO's parents
but I also want to state that the wait wait hold on a second so there was another note that was delivered after
his death that says you are next we don't know if it was delivered after his death it was found at the high school
after his death now the tricky thing here is so it wasn't delivered to anybody is that's what I'm trying to get
at um I here here's where there's a big problem there's little details about this note and that is because we have
Bill kin's parents saying that this this note was found after his death at wesland high school we have the
sheriff's deputies who would not discuss this item nor would they confirm even having found this right so we don't even
know if it exist so it's yes it's in big big time dispute here whether this this
thing was real or not play the base big time so I want to talk about these assaults the first took place on a
Wednesday this is September 5th 1979 at approximately 8:30 p.m. bill was on his way home from a friend's house he
decides to cut through the woods behind an elementary school bill is on his bike
he's riding his bike he's on a trail that's about 50 yard behind the school when he is knocked off of his bike by
what he would say is two men that were unknown to him um they approached him from behind once they attacked him they
tie a plastic garbage bag over Bill's head and wrap a bicycle inner tube around his his neck Bill almost blacks
out from this attack but eventually he starts to break free before he can black out when he when this happens these two
dudes that attacked him in the woods took off when Bill gets home he has obvious signs of bruising uh the police
are called regarding the attack the attack is reported but the the police go to the scene they find Bill's Bike uh
they find the inner tube and they find the bag that was placed over Bill's head they found a note there saying he was
warned uh bill was unable to describe the two men that assaulted him okay so normally you could be able to tell right
away uh the individuals were black or white mhm so he's not able to say that I couldn't find any reports where they
they say you know these are white guys these are African-American guys um really there's no description of these
people at all as far as public records go well normally too it's like you might not be able to tell if the guy is 16 you
know the person that attacked you if they were 16y old or if they're but you can normally you know break it down and
go well they're in their 20s or 30s that's one of the frustrating one of the many frustrating things regarding this
case and and what if Bill knew and just was afraid to actually State anything there's a lot of speculation regarding
that let's talk about the attack that took place on Monday October 22 1979 this is the second assault and you
could you could possibly call this the attempted murder of Bill coin this takes place at approximately 6:30 p.m. uh bill
is out collecting money uh like the captain said he had a newspaper route and he was going door too to his
different customers and he's collecting money now he's not on his bike this evening he's on foot um he says that at
some point while he's out collecting money two men who were driving an older model vehicle uh he described this as
Aqua or tur turquoise and color um two men jumped out of a car and they jumped him from behind they attack him and then
tie a rope around his neck and throw him into some bushes Billy loses Consciousness and he blacked out for
about 5 to 6 hours once he regains Consciousness Bill walks home and he arrives around 12:30 or 1 a.m. that
morning Bill has rope burns on his neck he has a gash on his face and broken blood vessels on his face as well to you
know obvious signs that this guy was choked and knocked out uh Bill files a police report and describes the asants
as two white guys in their late teens or early 20s he's also taken to the uh hospital at this time where his injuries
are noted this was probably part of the police report um and so he's two he's attacked twice both times the police
investigate a report is filed and at least one of these occasions he seeks medical attention because of the attack
bill would ultimately end up quitting his paper route I understand why um and just four days after filing the report
bill is asked to take a polygraph test now he has to take this test this is at the BCI office the Ohio BCI office which
is in London Ohio there's a lot of questions about these two attacks the the Sheriff's Department dep um and
let's let's kind of clear this up a little bit because I said earlier the new Rome Police Department would more
than likely be the ones responding to the missing report of Bill from January of 1980 mhm New Rome is a tiny little
tiny little area and they only had part-time police officers back then it's bigger than Parts Unknown but it is Tiny
yeah and the best way to describe these police officers picture uh Boy Scouts in
cop cars is pretty much the way I would describe the new New Rome Police Department they're part-time they really
only issue traffic tickets they don't really investigate any type of crime um later and I don't know there's probably
a new Rome cop listening right now mad as hell well there there can't be because New Rome no longer exists at
some point it was absorbed by Prairie Township because you got me there there you go um but if they had any type of
major crime or an assault or anything like this this is within Franklin County Ohio So
eventually the sheriff's department would be called in to investigate these different things not the Boy Scouts that
were issuing traffic tickets on West Broad Street yeah I'm sure I got a ticket from them before yeah I I
definitely received one and one thing I remember is they they told me I had to pay in cash in person uh and my ticket
was for not having uh being able to provide proof of insurance I was pulled over for who knows knows what but that
ends up being the ticket I didn't have my insurance card on me at the date that I was pulled over now in Columbus and in
most cities you can just go to the court and prove that you had insurance at the
time you were pulled over and there's then they take away the ticket my situation with New Rome was I showed up
I'm like look I here's my proof of insurance they're like we don't care that you have insurance you were pulled
over for not having proof of it you need to pay that ticket and pay it in cash I
can't remember what I paid but here's what I do remember part of the reason why New Rome no longer exist is they
were writing all these tickets telling people they had to pay in cash and then they they the government doesn't believe
that new Rome was reporting all of these tickets being paid or even issued that they're basically pocketing the money so
many many got you yeah many many good reasons why New Rome is no longer around but let's let's go through this real
quick Captain so we have a a dead 14-year-old boy Bill coin he's found face down in a snowy ditch uh his scarf
is tied tightly around his neck death by strangulation exactly and then we also find out that on two previous occasions
this same young man has been attacked by what he describes as two men uh Who attack him and both times trying to
choke him to death yeah first time trying to put a bag over his head and then tie the bag you know tight and the
other time uh trying to strle him with a rope where he blacks out for 5 to 6 hours yeah did they report him missing
that day there's so here here's a big problem with this case his parents are no longer around um they they both
passed away live to be you know an old age um his sister and brother are still around uh he had two brothers I don't
know about his oldest brother but his sister and brother to this day are very active in the case keeping this case
alive searching for answers good for them exactly um but however his they were young at this time his sister was only
nine uh his brother was a few years older than him they are a little they're a little fuzzy about the details of some
of these things and there's also been a lot of people that have kind of come out
of the woodwork saying well if my son was attacked on two separate occasions I would have moved I would have mortgaged
my home and and moved to another neighborhood and sure you would have okay let's let's not fault these parents
I don't find any fault in what the parents did or did not do no okay let's be clear about this the two times that
he was attacked both times it was reported to the police that's what you're supposed to do at least one of
those occasions Bill received medical attention if not on both occasions right um so I don't know what more you expect
of parents to do you you report these things to the police and and then you know you hope that the police are out
doing their job the the problem with the police is the the victim is unable to describe these guys uh the best
description that they get out of two attacks is it was a aqua turquoise car uh with some white dudes that may have
been in their late teens or early 20s yeah but it kind of sounds like you're fauling bill I mean again I think
there's probably some reason that he didn't want to come forward with some information but yeah there's ways to
toughen up your kids too I mean could you could have send Bill to the Cobra Kai Tojo yeah but it's also I I'm not
fauling Bill what I'm saying is there's good chance he may not have he couldn't provide a better description because he
didn't know who these guys were uh he was attacked uh you've talked about on this show several times what happens
when you're knocked out you might not remember things that happen leading up to being knocked out I don't know what
happens when somebody's choked out or strangled like that to the point of Los losing Consciousness that they might
might not be clear about what happened to them um it's pretty easy then when you come to to be pulling the inner tube
off of your neck and the bag off of your head and realize that that's how you were choked or strangled there is so
much more to get into in this case just heating up we'll get right back to this right after this quick beer
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thing's pretty big I think let's take into account that the sheriff's department they're currently
investigating that bill has been attacked on two separate occasions this is before he's found murdered or found
dead at the end of that Dead End Street they were also investigating the letters
that these notes that bill received at at school they were investigating all this before he's found dead at the the
end of that street now after his death the Franklin County Sheriff's Department the detectives they're on record stating
quote that we are interviewing persons close to Bill and the reason being is at this time they're still struggling to
determine if they were dealing with a homicide or a potential suicide so for the first part of their investigation
they interviewed just about if not everyone that would have known bill uh they interviewed his family his
friends and school officials and they said they said quote uh persons interviewed describe Bill as a perfect
student a perfect child a perfect citizen so I really firmly believe that they could come up with no apparent
reason for his death whatsoever um even though they couldn't decide if this is a
homicide or suicide there's no reason for this 14-year-old boy to be dead and I believe that that is why that they
waited so long to have the forer release his report ultimately ruling the situation a homicide more evidence is
going to come in backing the idea that this is a homicide and not a suicide because his neighbors are going to start
getting threatening letters this is a crazy thing Captain because on July 21st of 1980 Neighbors on Maple Drive start
receiving threatening letters or notes um we say Maple Drive this is the same street that bill and his family lived on
it's reported that that 13 to possibly 19 notes of these threatening letters or notes were received uh by eight
different families all very near the coin's home some families received identical notes on the same day some
notes were mailed some were delivered in person at night uh notes were found on porches and on cars so up until
September of 1980 these notes were mailed but the first note that was delivered in person at night was
discovered on September 9th 1980 police were looking at the handwriting on these notes the handwriting is
described in two ways two very different ways uh one being crudely printed and there's also notes that are neatly
penciled on pieces of cutout envelopes uh these notes are submitted for analysis which reveals that the letters
were all written by the same person even though some crudely and some neatly right but were these letters connected
to the original letters um let's go through that because there is some wording of these notes
that would make you believe that they could be connected and keep in mind he's re Bill Comin is receiving these
threatening letters and then he's killed uh most of these letters are brief uh they're simply just three or four words
on a lot of the notes the messages that were reported in the newspaper at the time were as follows uh parents should
guard their children carefully this one is signed X the next note is is short now I want to note here that uh seven
different girls and women in the neighborhood which the ages range from Seven all the way up to 50 received
these letters addressed to their name mhm um some of the other notes said all have been warned uh one said death in
October one said you are next and the other one said it's time this one was left the Night Before
Halloween this of course you know just some of the notes not received because they didn't report all of them to the
newspapers uh police say that they did believe that the letter writer could possibly be the the killer of Bill
comines on November 2nd law enforcement took the notes to Syracuse for a psychological profile of the letter
writer here's where things well that's kind of difficult too when the letters are so short yeah well here's the
difficult thing too because in December of 1980 they arrest somebody for writing these
letters a 54-year-old woman who lives on Maple Drive was arrested for writing the
threatening letters she wrote all of them so how did they catch this crazy old bat well remember they did the
psychological profile and they've not said this in the papers but here's what I believe I believe that what they came
up with in the psychological profile is that probably one of the persons that have received letters or received the
notes eles was the author of all of these notes so what they end up doing is they go back and everybody that received
a note they asked them to submit a handwriting sample so they can compare it to the notes found clever so 54
yearold this is uh aen taupe uh she decides she's not going to submit a handwriting sample to the police so they
get a search warrant and they go to where she works and they take items from her desk basically taking you know
collecting handwriting samples on their own without her help they determined that she wrote these letters based off
of items that they found in her desk and the letters probably smelled like cats well alien taupe was a state employee
she worked for the Ohio Department of Taxation she lived with her husband who was a retired mail carrier this is
Willard taupe 56 years he probably had him deliver the letters they had four adult children at this
time when she's arrested uh one daughter and three sons ranging in age from 22 to
30 I believe the daughter was the youngest of their children they lived in their house on Maple Drive for seven
years they knew the coin um actually Mrs coine describes alien top as a friend um
and so then why is she writing these these letters because she's not not really a friend I'm guessing this is
this is after the fact that once it's discovered that she was the writer the mother States Bill King's mom States you
know she was once a friend now she's somebody I don't even want to see ever again MH uh they lived the way that the
way that Bill's sister Kathleen describes the neighborhood um the taes would have lived not directly across the
street from them but across the street and a house over right so they liveed very close to the coin a little more
background on aen taupe um she she before she wrote the letters before the letters started showing up this is back
in 1973 and 74 she had several nervous breakdowns um after after being caught as the letter writer she was diagnosed
as having dual personalities she spent three weeks in a hospital and then she got all better well she was or her
family was one of the first people to receive these threatening notes they took the notes were delivered
between July 21st and October 31st of 1980 she's caught for this in December of 1980 mhm so she even participated in
the investigation in the sense that she spoke with police on several occasions and she also talked to the
newspapers uh when when the people in the neighborhood were receiving these notes she told the Columbus Dispatch
that this is some kind of sick joke or somebody is ready to go off the deep end that's that's what she's quoted as in
the paper she told the police she was receiving threatening phone calls and Prowlers were lurking around her home at
night and attempted break-ins to their home well I wonder if maybe with the mental issues she was dealing with if
this uh because Bill was murdered maybe this triggered something inside her and and again maybe she was friends with the
family and that that was a bigger trigger and therefore then she became mentally unhinged because of this murder
so but it's sad nonetheless now law enforcement would end up proving that all the phone calls to police uh the the
comments or the suspected prowers or attempted break-ins to their home they were all false claims all right so what
does she get charged with well she gets charged with writing the threatening letters this I guess is a misdemeanor
and she pleads no contest to this and receives a fine of $50 um She fainted during the court
proceedings and like just like Su Knight yes he has he has a problem going to court um here's the weird thing
though Captain uh and as if it's not weird enough I can't get much weirder so I've read newspaper articles that came
out in December of 1980 and her husband is interviewed with her uh regarding her
arrest he seems to be in her Court uh he has her back um like we said she probably has some mental issues going on
the thing is though she offers no explanation as to why she wrote any of these letters eventually law enforcement
would say that she did not write the letters that bill coins received before his death and stated that she is not a
suspect in Bill coin's murder the letters that were received were received at people's houses or on the street um
the the letters that bill received were at the school mhm in September of 1981 1
so over a year and a half goes by and after announcing the menacing letter writer was not a suspect uh in what the
coroner called a very bizarre case and also Eileen taupe was not considered a suspect in the threatening letters Bill
had received before his death the police still had named no suspects couldn't find a motive for the murder of Bill
coin but now in 1981 they're reexamining the case and talking to the Press once again this time there's a there's a
theory that starts to come out a year and a half after the death of Bill coin okay and this is that he possibly died
of an accidental suicide by way of autoerotic xixi law enforce okay law enforcement
claims that the investigation is ongoing at this time however uh we have detectives detectives stating publicly
that they don't believe that bill kin was murdered the coroner at this time still has not changed his ruling of
homicide the deputy coroner claims the ruling of homicide was given to keep the case open
that law enforcement were they were having trouble believing the stories uh regarding the first two attacks on Bill
coin and they are now telling the newspapers that bill kin's uh responses to the lie detector test that they asked
him to take before his death showed signs of quote significant attempt to deceive okay a couple things going on
here first of all autoerotic AIC iation right mhm so this is where either during
sex I guess or during self sex okay I can't believe we're talking about this uh but you'd be choking yourself
and be and it would help uh you know you climax okay right so that's what they're
stating they believe it's a possibility that he was choking himself with his scarf um and then beating off uh by the
train tracks all right well let's get into this is the time where we have to get into all this speculation because
it's obvious that law enforcement they don't seem to have a good idea I think on whether he's murdered or whether this
was an accidental death was pretty simple was his pants found down around his ankles or or was his pants on I'm
going to go off of what Bob has said Bob is uh Bill's older brother he was one of
the people that found Bill face down in that ditch that night he states that as far as his memory goes that Bill's
Clothing didn't seem abnormal um and to furthermore the family's belief that he was murdered is
okay so this is a cold night there was snow on the ground Bill's wearing a winter coat he's wearing pants long
pants he's wearing big thick gloves and a scarf a scarf his own scarf that is tied tightly around his neck that
probably caused this Cardiac Arrest that he had they there's no sign of there's no
sign of a struggle but there's also no sign of what you were just talking about the your self sex that you were just
discussing um sorry so that's inappropriate yes uh bill you know Bob these are Bob's statements many years
later one sad one of the saddest things about this is I I've read Bob's stories and um you know just the fact that he
and his father basically took turns performing CPR on Bill trying to revive him yeah um Bob states that that Bill
had vomited because of the the strangulation and that for many many years Bob could still taste that in his
own mouth uh from having performed this the CPR but there's all kinds there's so
much things there's so many things to discuss here okay let's well I think this whole idea of this autoerotic
fixation theory is to me is just irresponsible well and and one thing that that would have your back on that
is that a lot of people argue that the size of the gloves he wore would have been that you wouldn't have been able to
tie your shoelaces with these big thick gloves on that he wouldn't have been able to tie this scarf around his own
neck MH um I have so many questions about this case and this is one of these fascinating cases that you dive into and
you could go a million different directions with it um the first the first question I have is there's there's
some question as to when Bill still in life started receiving these threatening letters these threatening notes was it
before the first time he was attacked or was it after the first time he was attacked um he was attacked on September
5th of 19 79 and the reason why I bring that up because that's a Wednesday that would have been the Wednesday after
Labor Day now back in the day and you'll remember this and I know that school school years have changed throughout the
years that a lot of kids start school early August or mid August nowadays but back when we were kids we would
typically start school the week before Labor Day and I used to love that because they would kind of ease you into
the school year because you would typically start on that Wednesday before Labor Day so you would go to school for
3 days you would have a 3-day weekend you would go back to school for 4 days before you went to your first full week
of school which is week three so I have to believe I'm just going off of numbers
here that bill probably started receiving these threatening letters after the first attack and I only say
that because I believe that having found them in his locker and his friends Finding them in their lockers that that
these letters would have been delivered by somebody that had access to that school this would be an upper classman
or a teacher somebody already in the school now leading up to the first attack bill would have only been in
school for what five days five school days before the first attack right um and I do have confirmation that that
that school year is correct uh his sister would say years later when question about the whole incident that
back then we started school the week before Labor Day so he wouldn't have been in school very long before before
being attacked right which makes some sense because you know people get back from summer break and then they're kind
of Rowdy mhm so that's you know that makes sense and I and I believe you know if he was murdered the the per the
people that they're looking for the suspects are going to be uh members of that High School mhm there were some
reports uh that bill might have been bullied by some upper class now no one could give really specific
incidents of him being attacked or being picked on at school other than there were a couple people that said on more
than one occasion during choir practice you know while he's at choir there were several upper classmen that seem to go
to the choir room and kind of stare down some of the kids in the choir bill being one of them right
because when you go to high school you normally have like freshman English class well who's in freshman English
class freshman right mhm you have sophomore math class or whatever there's those classes that
have a overlap so choir being one or like jazzband or like even gym class sometimes would have a overlap right so
this would give Bill the opportunity to be in contact with some of these upper classmen you're exactly right okay so
let's talk about these notes and let's talk about the things going on at school um regarding the notes that he received
before his death these are items that are being held somewhere in an Evidence Locker in the U Franklin County
Sheriff's Department these are these are notes that his remaining family members
are a little unclear of and they're not actually certain that they've seen these
notes so Kathleen and Bob who are active in this investigation are not really able to clue Us in as to what these
notes are we have some vague descriptions of these notes but like I said some of them were written WR some
were typed and some were letters and words cut out of magazines and newspapers uh the sheriff's department
does not comment on these letters other than stating that they were investigating if Bill was the actual
author of these letters and I say that because remember the polygraph test that they gave bill that they requested of
him once they saw signs that he might have been deceptive during those polygraph tests that's probably why
they're starting to look at him being a possible author of these notes one big question I have regarding those notes
are which ones were written which ones were typed and which ones were uh cut out of magazines and received by whom
you know if all the handwritten letters and notes were received by Bill and the typed ones and the ones that are
cut out in newspapers and magazines were received by his best friend and his girlfriend I would really wonder if Bill
actually authored those those notes yeah cuz one of the theories that you know gets me is you know as far
as the the autoerotic fixation Theory doesn't make a lot of sense to me but a possible like you know maybe it was a
suicide m in the sense of well you know whatever is going on in my head I'm going to go take a walk and I got this
scarf and if I tie it really tight and cut off my Airway that uh and I throw these gloves on that once it gets
difficult to breathe that maybe I won't be able to take off the scarf MH that that would be my idea and so but then
what if cuz like what the coroner said is well was really the heart attack because of so what if he tied the scarf
super tight he can't breathe he has these gloves on before it gets to the point where he would probably struggle
to save himself you know he he passes out mhm and so that that is a possibility and like you said if he's
writing these letters then maybe he's just writing these letters or talking about these attacks that maybe never
happen as a way to get attention yeah or to cover up some kind of thing that he was doing on his own MH I actually I
don't think but what would that thing be I mean you're just tossing that out as a
overall blanket idea well I'll get into that a bit here because I don't think that suicide is the right word for any
of this I think that what we're dealing with here is either a homicide or an accidental death um not a suicide so
there is one report that one of the teachers at Bill's high school at wesland high school told law enforcement
that at one point Bill had asked that teacher how to pass out how to make yourself pass out mhm I couldn't find I
don't know how credible this is um this is something that found on a website somewhere I didn't find it in a
newspaper I couldn't find any other reports of this actually being a real thing okay but what I'm getting at here
is that possibly could have happened he could have asked somebody that or could have had these weird conversations maybe
with some of his friends now Kathleen and Bob they don't believe that a good number of his friends were interviewed
about this you know we have the law enforcement stating that you know we talk to everybody that knew bill
um and they say that a lot of his friends weren't spoken to by the police I don't know what information they could
offer um but here's here's where I have a problem with this being a homicide the
first thing is that the parents state that bill would have not left the home without telling them where he was going
and I believe this I believe this because everybody that's been in the newspaper anybody that knew bill has
always said he was extremely close with his family and his parents and he was also uh a very responsible kid you know
we talked about him being a good student and talking about him having a paper route uh so I believe this so their
statement to the Sheriff's Department is this has to be a murder because he would
not have committed suicide and Bill would have had to have been abducted from either their front porch or from
their front yard because he wouldn't have left on his own right but there's a few problems I have with this the one
being that that these homes are close together they're small homes they are small Lots uh this this area when I
lived there 15 years ago was a very quiet area at 9:00 at night especially during the week mhm if Bill was abducted
you would think that somebody would have heard something that there might have been a struggle Bill 6 foot tall 175 lbs
uh I I feel his father's in the garage with the door open working on the car mhm it almost seems to me like if he
was abducted all bill would have had to do especially after having been you know
in two situations like this before already being in fear all he would have had to do was shout out or yell or
scream and his father would have heard him or a neighbor would have heard him so I have a problem with the families
thought that he was abducted and then later found strangled to death and I'm going back to the first two uh attacks
as part of this problem one being the night that he was coming home from his friend's house where he was attacked in
the woods and somebody places a bag over his head in an inner tube around his neck to choke him out I have a problem
with the inner tube that seems like a strange thing for an attacker to bring to an area in the woods maybe lying
there waiting for somebody I mean how would you know that the the letters to me if Bill's receiving threatening
letters it almost seems like Bill is targeted maybe he was targeted after this first attack I don't know but
having the inner tube there seems like a strange thing it doesn't seem like a strange thing to me with somebody being
on a bike Bill might have had an inner tube you know a lot of people will bring an inner tube with them in case they get
a flat tire out somewhere they can change the tire themselves and ride home well right so you're saying that
possibly he's playing like the blackout game yes or something of that nature that that he was getting some kind of
high or or maybe this was something taught to him by a friend this is pretty common actually I I'd say probably every
generation that people go through this period of you know the the blackout game or the figing game speed dreaming
there's a bunch of different names for it so let's go back to the first attack I've looked at where that school in the
woods behind the school are located MH and I know where his friend's house was and I know where his home was the woods
was actually out of his way and he did not need to go through the woods to get home first of all second of all it was
not a shorter route you know like kids often would take shorter routes cut through people's yards and cut through
the woods I get that yeah but it would have been faster for him to take the the roads from his friend's home to his
house it was completely out of the way yeah but maybe he just preferred it I get that I get that but it seems strange
and then second of all we have the second attack he's out on his own and he's unaccounted for for 5 to 6 hours
mhm that seems strange to me too I I have so many so many issues with with this case claiming that you attacked
while you're collecting money for your paper route might give you excuse not to have a paper route anymore and on none
of these occasions was he robbed and on the two occasions that he comes home from these attacks there's nothing on
his clothes to indicate any type of struggle other than the bruising on his neck and that this this poor kid was had
passed out or was unconscious for some period of time right but how do you explain these marks could he could have
choked himself he could have blacked out himself he no no that's what I'm saying
but I'm saying let's say you're trying to play the blackout game you're just curious right maybe you played the
blackout game with your buddies and you're like you know what that was kind of weird a weird feeling I kind of want
to experience that again I mean again he's a 14-year-old boy I mean we do some dumb stuff you know so he's sitting
there and he's like okay I want to try this this by myself then he goes home and they're like what the hell's on your
neck right and then he's like well what happened was I was attacked and that's what was happening and then what he did
was well I'll make up these notes cuz then if I make up these notes then that covers my tracks even more yeah the
first attack is weird because the police do go to that spot in the woods and they
find the bicycle they find the inner tube and they find the bag everything that Bill said would be there was there
why would he leave his bike Maybe he came to and and panicked and and freaked out and just went home on foot and like
you said now he's at home he's got to he's got to explain for his whereabouts he's got to explain why he doesn't have
his bike um now we also have this situation where he's coming home from his paper out he's unaccounted for for
five or six hours he comes home and he looks like he's been attacked as far as the choking goes um and now he's got to
explain to his parents why they have to take him to the hospital I just don't see any sign of abduction or struggle or
attack other than this choking thing the rumors of abduction really kind of came
after mhm and then we have the volume why was there valume in his system that's strange to me too but I I don't
think that anybody would have made him or forced him to take valume and then kill him that doesn't make any sense to
me I he he would have died or been close to death pretty quickly after having been quote unquote abducted from his
front yard I don't know how much time it would take vum to get into his system but I think this is something that he
took on his own I wouldn't be surprised if this was something that was we could find no reason that it was prescribed to
him but we're talking about 1979 in 1980 is there a possibility that when he was
seeking medical attention for the second attack that a doctor he he received a shot that night according to his sister
is there a chance that a doctor said you know what here's some of these here's some of these pills and when you're
feeling weird bill or not feeling good about things you can take one of these and it'll help you relax MH so there's a
possibility he could have received those from an actual doctor or hospital but not actually have been prescribed the
medicine we don't have Bill's parents around anymore to verify how he would have received that volume nor could I
find anything from his parents discussing the volume in the newspapers at the time well you were telling me
earlier about an interesting point about the second attack yeah the the one thing
about the second attack remember he states that he was choked from behind with a rope uh these two white dudes at
teenagers early 20s they jump out of this car they jump him and the way that he makes this this sound and the way
that it sounds in the newspaper is that he was along his newspaper route these are homes that are close together that
he was attacked there and basically choked and left for dead thrown into some bushes or underneath the tree I
wonder you know if we could get a better a better report of that actual attack because had he been abducted and taken
elsewhere that would make more sense to me because I cannot believe that in this
neighborhood he that that a boy that a 14-year-old boy just lie there lifeless almost for 5 and a half six hours on the
side of a sidewalker in somebody's front yard or side yard and nobody discovers him during this 5 and a half six hour
time period and he eventually wakes up and walks himself home well and I think your theory makes a lot of sense uh I
just argue that there was items found uh with uh Bill's body and they you know they were able to pull DNA off these
items yeah okay so there's the items found with him there's there's one item in particular that uh the family points
to and this was a knife was found in the area of where Bill was found and their thought is it's possible that this knife
was used to abduct bill that's why he was silent during the Abu abduction um and that whoever killed Bill would have
thrown him there into the ditch and then discarded of the knife uh before leaving
the scene well and there's possibly DNA on the scarf as well correct so I've I've seen several reports that in late
2013 and early 2014 they were going to test these items as early as 200 I believe 2012 okay um I've heard
conflicting results on these test I've heard some reports that the items still to this date have never been tested
that's the main rumor that I hear as well and then the other rumor is that these items were tested and they weren't
able to come up with any new leads based off of their findings on these items I wonder uh as far as the knife goes let's
describe this knife it was described by Kathleen his Bill's sister as basically a knife that you would find in
somebody's kitchen it had a wooden handle um it was not a knife that the family recognized to be from their home
um it also could simply just be trash you know this was a long the the railroad tracks uh he was found you know
there were beer bottles in the area there were car parts possible that this could just be trash well and one of the
other rumors about the DNA is that there was not enough to sample that they' have
this destroyed and it's funny to me because think about how many cases that we cover and we learn week by week we
learned something MH and what did we learn last week was it PCR yes so you know there you know you're reading about
this case and they go well we don't have enough DNA evidence to to test it we're
afraid we'll contaminate it and then you go wait but PCR is like basically a photocopier so why aren't we
implementing this in this case and is if it's about money I think the thing maybe
not the knife cuz like you said it's a very possib very good possibility that this knife was just thrown out as trash
or just left there you know some kids were playing uh with their mom's kitchen knife and just was like ah just leave it
here littering that's do it that's what it comes down to a bunch of litterers pick up your pick up your
trash your piece of trash um no so I I agree with you there there's those items there that to me are sketchy but I think
the thing here is if we can pull DNA evidence off of his neck his scarf anything that they could get that was
connected to him not on those surroundings but connected to him if they're able to test that if they're not
but they're able to duplicate with PC then do that and then test it now is there somebody else's DNA other than
bills right because if it's just bills then your theory makes the most sense but if there's somebody else's the
suspect or the you know or The Killers not the suspects The Killers went to his high school he knew them through high
school they were upper classmates the thing that I lean towards your theory about
is why would you when you went to pick on an individual wouldn't you punch him mhm
hold him down do something I mean it seems like strangling the individual is you know it's not the first thing you
would do when attacking somebody yeah or possibly that you'd strangle them with your hand you know you'd be in a fist
fighter or or maybe they're not even fighting back but you'd strangle with your hand before you would use a bag
with a uh you know a tire tube and if they have the tire tube can can we you know what kind of tire tube did did Bill
have you know so I don't know I mean it leans that way the re the only reason why I lean that way cuz I would assume
that if somebody's bullying him that there would be a punch or something thrown first bill would have a black eye
you know not just marks around his neck yeah and okay let's I'm going to go back
to the DNA real quick before we get before I get into the bullying but the DNA that we're that you're talking about
that was found on his scarf um was reported as bodily some kind of bodily fluid right um which could have been the
puke that's what I'm getting at we all we now know that that bill vomited at some point uh and it very well could
have been Bill Bill's vomit on that that scarf um so I question I question that and I'm like like you said let's test
that stuff and if it's bills we got to move on from this thing what's irresponsible here is that I really feel
that we're 30 some years later and I I think there's enough to question if this is a homicide or not I would love for
law enforcement to come out and say definitively one way or the other it remains technically a homicide because
it's on the books as such uh that's what his sister believes it is as well and so
does Bob and his and I believe his family always believed that he was killed and that he was murdered um I
don't mean to go against his family at all um I simply just want answers exactly like they do regarding the
bullying uh you mentioned something you know that this would have had to been upper classman I I agree with you 100%
on that the other thing is if these people were not just they weren't just upper classmen if it if he was in fact
murdered it wasn't just somebody that had access to his school that attended his school this was also somebody that
fit into that neighborhood that didn't seem out of place in that neighborhood because there's nobody other than bill
on three separate attacks to say hey I saw this guy or these guys or these group of people driving around and this
aqua colored older car that that he said was probably a Ford Falcon or something
that looked like a Ford Falcon do yourself a favor Google an older model uh Aqua Ford Falcon that is not that
could not have been a common car back in 1979 1980 not the pictures that I saw this is a car that in my opinion would
have stood out this is a car in my opinion that had they gone to the school they probably could have asked about 50
people and said you know who drives one of those so and so drives one of those yeah uh it would have been an easy thing
to come up with the other thing regarding the bullying is when interviewing his girlfriend and and his
friend that received these threatening notes as well Captain don't you believe you know both of us you know in a high
school setting don't you believe that if you receive some kind of a threatening note you might have some clue who put
that in your locker yeah yeah no I I think so but or or at least out of the three of you you might have some
speculation as to who did it yeah I think you know I think you could come up with somebody going oh so and so doesn't
like me or so and so is mad that I'm dating this girl or so and so doesn't like my buddy or started a fight with my
buddy I think you would have a small list of people that would be likely suspects in the notes themselves well
but I also take back what I was saying before you know when I was saying the bullies would probably punch him in the
face if you think about stuff like um uh what's that show um Dazed and Confused you know the these upper classmen would
jump out of the car all they're doing is holding down the individual and then spanking them mhm I say that only what
what I mean by that that's a horrible thing to do to anybody but what I mean only by that is they're not punching
them right to get the so this could have been just some sick thing they're doing
like a form of hazing almost right but this could be some kind of sick form of hazing mhm and so yeah these these two
individuals for whatever reason pick Bill and then they go after him and they grab him and then they just we'll tie
this around his head and then we'll we'll run off mhm but the but the threatening letters the the not the
notes that he's getting don't sound like some kind of taunting as towards hazing
you know I get you are next yeah that sounds like oh you know remember we choked that one kid kid now we're going
to we're going to choke you in our little hazing weird hazing thing that we do but one of the notes says blood will
spill that sounds like murder that sounds like some kind of severe attack the other one stating something like
bill has three months left uh spend them wisely or something like that you know this again like I said there's so many
things that you brought up that I think are super valid points and then the other side of me goes but the people
that were closer to this case than me me and you could you know ever be is his siblings mhm and for them to come out
and say look this doesn't you know it's a 14-year-old boy that you know maybe was just you know had this weird phase
for a while where he was making himself pass out that's a very good possibility there is a good possibility that he was
just being harassed by somebody and that these individuals for whatever reason maybe it just started out as a haze and
they're like oh well this you know this actually went too far now we got to get rid of him mhm that's that's a good
possib ability too and I but I think you know what I know what his sister's doing
is she has a Facebook page they've posted a lot of information uh about that school and now what's great about
like webs Luthers is they can actually go online and pull up the yearbook for wesland high school M um wesland High
School in Columbus Ohio and and look through uh and look through these Pages yeah and and if he was murdered to me
100% I believe You' find those those individuals in that book well I think a big problem with this case is alien
taupe the one who started writing these other letters that were not connected to
anything I think that I think that the police probably had their suspicions as to whether this was an actual homicide
or not and I think on once those letters started well there was a big scare in that neighborhood by people receiving
these letters and even by people that weren't receiving these na these letters and so the police had a job they had a
duty to that Community to go in there and determine who's writing these letters because everybody in the
neighborhood immediately thinks these are coming from whoever killed poor Bill comines and I think that once they were
already confused about their own investigation they get involved in this letter writing investigation and I think
the police for a long time for those few months that those letters are being received I think they thought that if
they could find the author of those letters that they would find the killer of bill and when then that that didn't
work out when that turned out not to be Bill's killer I think maybe they reverted back to their original thought
of this might not be a homicide and what I mean where I think a big Interruption
is alien taupe is I think that those months would have been better spent they definitely they definitely did a lot of
work on this case they did a lot of work trying to figure out who that letter writer was they could have spent those
hours and those days going back and actually clearing up within a year within months of his death determining
the actual cause of death and and maybe getting it right well and I wish you know there was more than one polygraph
test yeah because because I don't know how much that proves I mean we I don't I actually don't I don't I don't look to
that polygraph for anything really because I don't I I think I think giving a polygraph to a
14-year-old boy or girl I think is strange I think especially if he was in fact attacked you could make a child
feel like they're guilty of something that they had no had nothing to do with and just by putting him in the chair and
submitting him to that test he could come off as deceitful just because he's now in a situation and in a setting
where he feels you made him feel like he's done something wrong and I would love to know if that DNA was actually
tested if so I would love to know what the results are I know people are going to send us things that they've seen But
like we've said we've heard both sides of the coin that yes they have been done nothing came back or that they've not
been done I worry that the sheriff's department this many years later believes that it's not actually a
homicide and they might not be technically working the case if that's if that in fact is their stance on it I
would love for them to say you know what Coan family let's sit down let's review
the boxes of evidence that we have let's review this together because they are owed some answers they are owed some
answers in this case and they owed closure yeah even even if it's just law enforcement coming out and stating yes
we are on your side we believe this was a homicide or no we still think that this was an accidental death and I and
all the people that write suicide or even the autoerotic expiation stuff I think that's a little too I think that's
a little irresponsible I think that this in my opinion I lean towards accidental
death here and I think that's the right term I and I welcome I welcome anybody else's thoughts on it because there's I
my when I sit down and look at this thing captain my opinion changes daily as to whether he was killed or
whether this was an accidental death yeah well again I think sometimes people throw out these theories and they have
no evidence to back it up so you know I think look I but I do think like I said before there's enough information online
and that maybe that the whbs Luther Community could help out in some way the True Crime community in some way
possibly could dive into this case a little bit and maybe uncover some new leads that's the hope of his sister the
other thing too is you know like we said our you know what we kind of lean towards or what kind of makes the most
sense was this was some kind of accidental um death the other thing too is if we do have these letters why can't
we pull DNA off the letters that were written right so and if it's if it's if it's about funding well it's this simple
you know the the siblings can contact us can contact True Crime garage and we'll
we'll pull the the True Crime Community together and we'll get this tested ourselves if it's about financials so um
I you know it'd be great for that community and for the family to get some closure on this case yes and I truly
hope that Kathleen and Bob uh Bill's brother and sister receive the answers and the information that they need and
deserve uh his parents deserve that information and in that closure as well unfortunately they did not get it you
can follow you can actually follow Bill coin and Bill coin's family at Twitter um so if anybody's looking for updates
on the case hopefully hopefully there are updates um you can do that at Bill Co means well it's a really interesting
case one I never heard of uh till this week and it was a Columbus case so uh do we have a recommended reading for this
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hotel dressed in tuxedos they very quickly attacked the security guards and took Hotel staff and guest hostage uh
when they finally left the hotel they departed with $28 Million worth of Jews and they left in limousines if you would
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January 7th, 1980 - Columbus, Ohio. 14 year Bill Comeans' lifeless body is discovered by his father and brothers. Bill had been abducted from the family home and found face down in a ditch just two blocks away. Bill had been attacked before on two separate occasions. He was receiving threatening notes before his death. About six months after Bill's death someone started sending threatening notes to women and children in Bill's neighborhood. Today we discuss the strange death and case of young Bill Comeans.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the unsolved murder of Bill Coin and his family's ongoing quest for justice.

Key points

Family's Plea for Justice. The family of a murdered teenager is demanding answers after 34 years of silence.
Unsolved Murder Case. Bill's sister continues to fight for justice in one of Franklin County's oldest cases.
The Mysterious Death of Bill Coin. Bill Coin, a 14-year-old boy, is found dead under suspicious circumstances. Investigators are torn between homicide and suicide.
Threatening Letters Surface. After Bill's death, neighbors begin receiving threatening letters, raising more questions about the case.
The Arrest of Aen Taupe. Aen Taupe is arrested for writing threatening letters to neighbors, but is she connected to Bill's murder?
The Bizarre Case of Bill Coin. The investigation into Bill Coin's death reveals troubling theories and unanswered questions.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

There's always going to be some hope.

Kathleen Kine on her fight for justice.

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Tension

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