Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - Season 7, Episode 2 - Full Episode | Forensic Files

[Music] this program is about unsolved mysteries whenever possible the actual family
members and police officials have participated in recreating the events what you are about to see is not a news
broadcast in 1884 one of the wealthiest men in New Mexico build his wife the finest house money could buy a glorious
Victorian mansion but after the couple's youngest daughter died the lady of the house turned into a virtual recluse and
a lot of folks say that her spirit has haunted the mansion for nearly a century tonight we'll take you along as a team
of real-life Ghost Busters tries to flush the elusive ghost out of hiding in March of 1988 the head of a
multi-million dollar drug ring named John rubus was assassinated just outside San Juan Puerto Rico
or was he authorities now suspect someone else was murdered in his place and the crew bus is very much alive
legend has it that nearly 150 years ago wealthy citizens of old Los Angeles buried their riches for safekeeping
during the mexican-american war is there still fortune and golden jewels hidden in the shadows of LA's downtown
skyline also a heartwarming update thanks to your cause the family has been reunited
after 45 years apart jointly perhaps you may be able to solve a mystery [Music] [Applause]
[Music] this is the la posada hotel in Santa Fe New Mexico nestled within its Adobe wall
which is a hundred-year-old Victorian mansion recently that mansion has become the focus of an unusual high-tech
investigation no crime has been committed no one has been hurt no one has disappeared believe it or not this
team of investigators is looking for a ghost so far the information we have regarding
the la posada hotel it appears to have all the characteristics of what is referred to as a classic haunt because
of the history because of the a variety of different types of witnesses who had these experience it certainly appears to
be to look that way that it is a classic haunt we're trying to approach it very unbiased ly without any expectation so
at this point we're not sure exactly what we're gonna find or what we're going to encounter if Christopher sure
Cole and his team of real-life ghostbusters do encounter a spirit at the La Posada hotel she probably answers
to the name Julius stop folks around here say judy has been haunting the place for nearly a century Julia came to
Santa Fe from Germany around 1870 to marry Abraham stop one of the wealthiest men in New Mexico Abraham promised Judy
he would someday build her the finest house money could buy [Music] seven children and 14 years later the
Stobbs moved into Santa Fe is viktoria mansion look at the beautiful parlor that Papa has made mama with her
favorite flower in mind see the roll stained glass when Julia moved into this house she became the queen of Santa Fe
society all major affairs were held here I show you the life they entertained dignitaries from the government
president Rutherford Hayes General Sherman governor Wallace big parties were held here and one would think she
was a very happy woman in the new house Julia and Abraham were blessed with an eighth child a girl
[Music] but tragically the baby would live only a short time according to Bessie salat
Julia's joy turned to sorrow overnight [Music] she was so distraught over the the
child's death and it said that she didn't eat or sleep for for two weeks and when she finally slept and she awoke
and looked in the mirror all of the beautiful black hair on her head had turned completely white all of the grief
went into her hair procore ting - legend Julius table withdrew from society and was rarely
seen outside her mansion when Julia died at the age of 52 she seemed far older than her years in
1936 the starb mansion was acquired by the la posada eventually the modern hotel was built around
the front door of the mansion is reached through the lobby and the starb home is
as elegant as ever the rooms upstairs including Julia's bedroom can be booked by hotel guests and Julia over the years
has had a way of making her presence known I think there there's something here there's no doubt to me to many
people including guests who know nothing about the history of the place say there
is something whether it's a ghost to where there is some sort of energy I don't know back in 1882 and it's the
first formal brick building built in Santa Chuck barone was a hardened skeptic until 1991 when he and a desk
clerk took several guests on an impromptu tour of the hotel even though Julia's room was not
occupied Hotel policy required the clerk to knock anyway I just had no news in there I'll go
double-check at the front desk he went downstairs I stayed up with the guests and our nobody came out the front
door it been several minutes and by then anything that was thinking about me of past coz I figured I didn't that there
was a guest in the room we trying security curiously the clerk had returned confirming that Julia's room
was not booked well and so he'd knocked on the door again nothing happened we went in and the room was empty nobody
here the windows were locked from the inside nobody come out the door and diarrhea no
explanation for it around a year later Chuck son John Burroughs who also worked as a security guard had his own weird
encounter when he checked the men's washroom at closing time security lock it up for the evening it's
time to go I've looked in the mirror and there was a face like a reflection I felt the cold chill come through me and
some told me it's it's time to leave I I left I didn't turn off the lights I didn't turn off the hall lights I didn't
check the females restroom and I proceeded out the back door and I didn't come back I feel that it is real there
is no doubt in my mind because I saw someone standing there you know looking down at us and you know
before then I was not a believer but you know once I saw her there you know I believe that she is present here this
past June Ross wiesen Hoffer in Holly Nora were in Santa Fe to attend a friend's wedding
even though they stayed in the room across the hall from Julia's Ross and Holly had never heard any of the stories
we shut the TV off at that time I was up and I was trying to go back to sleep and
my eyes were closed and at that time I felt something staring at me I saw you did white apparition you know I put my
head down and you know I'm like my gosh you know this isn't happening to me right now and then I looked up again for
the second time and at that point it started become more defined I put my head back down and you know
when I looked up the third time it would definitely was Julia standing there [Music]
and at that point I jumped up out of bed flick the lights on I said we're out of
here within five minutes we're down at the front desk I've never seen him like that I've never seen him scared
especially enough to have goose bumps he was he was definitely a skeptic before and then once he saw this happen
he was a believer so I was quite surprised just two weeks later Ross and Holly were back at the La Posada to talk
to Christopher Chicago from the office of scientific investigation and research but the hotel shakuni's team of ghost
busters included a physician a psychologist and an electrical engineer it was getting more defined where would
I be in relationship to where you saw their gold to determine whether the hauntings here can be explained in
scientific rational terms she would closer yeah of the 800 investigations honson poltergeist phenomena that I'd
been on 70% of them appeared to be have rational explanations for them we have found definitively answers however
there's another 30% which apparently we cannot find a rational explanation for they define the known laws of nature and
physics at least as we know them today kind of remind you of would you take a look at that and just tell me what comes
to mind and what you can see in there an important part of each investigation is
a psychological evaluation of the subjects Breaking Bad News are bringing bad news to the family pull your arm
back towards you as hard as you can next the subjects undergo a physical examination to eliminate any possible
somatic causes for the sighting one of the cases that come to mind is one situation where a woman had a brain
tumor pressing against a certain part of her brain which would cause the seizures and it would create the
illusion at least to her that some type of entity was coming and having physical
contact with her when we get to the aspect of the case where we're looking into the environment we begin to take
samples of the water samples of the air we take elements that the individual would actually have physical contact
with pieces of carpet with the wall paint on the wall we're looking for toxic elements which could somehow
affect them for example certain types of phosphine gases when mixed with air can produce
flashes of light and some might see this as poltergeist phenomena when in fact it's it's obviously rationally
explainable after examining the environment if we don't find anything which is obvious we will then proceed to
set up equipment in the environment to do a long-term surveillance we would have specially designed radioactivity
monitoring equipment we look for electrostatic discharge of any of any type we would look at the magnetic
fields both electromagnetic fields and geomagnetic fields we would analyze the spectrum of light from infrared to
ultraviolet and everything in between the environment in this case the upstairs rooms of the Staub mansion is
sealed off for a period of 12 to 72 hours state-of-the-art monitoring equipment worth more than a half a
million dollars is set up in an adjacent area the team then returns to the environment armed with special thermal
cameras which measured temperature variations finally the room is plunged into total
darkness the team uses a most advanced night-vision equipment to examine the environment we have floors that are long
sighted at the end of every investigation the team sits down together for a case rapidly something
people can can perceive you know there are no air vents we were able to analyze the environment in every possible way
and we did not encounter anything which was unusual or extraordinary quality and
innovation been hearing trouble okay psychologically I think in terms of the behavioral profile I see the examination
is performed on Russ muhuali prove that they are in fact very credible witnesses
functioning individuals I see no evidence of any suspicious area based on all the results of the investigations
we've conducted here we haven't found any facts to disprove the fact that the la posada is haunted there certainly
then is that possibility that there is unusual paranormal phenomenon taking place here
[Music] Kristopher Chaconne and his team do plan to return to the hotel at least once
more to search for definitive signs of a hotel in the meantime if you should find
yourself in Santa Fe if you should check into one of the rooms in the original star mansion it might not be a bad idea
to leave a single red rose on the windowsill after all rumor has it that it was Julius Tom's
favorite flower when we returned the puzzling death of John rubus that a cunning drug lord staged his own
murdered to evade capture March 7th 1988 San Juan Puerto Rico flames consumed a late-model car and
apparently been abandoned in a remote corner of the city the next morning local authorities found
the remains of a body charred beyond recognition in the backseat of the car the only evidence that might eventually
lead to an ID of the victim was a fragment of jawbone and four loose teeth recovered from the ashes
one week later an anonymous informant told police that the dead man was jon Rubus it was a name authorities knew
well John Scott rubus was a ringleader of a multi-million dollar drug network headquartered in Puerto Rico rubus
operation had a virtual monopoly on cocaine and marijuana distribution in the Midwestern United States we were
able to obtain dental records from John Rubens's dentists in Florida and we shipped those dental records to a
pathologist in Puerto Rico who had found in the burnt automobile four loose teeth
and a piece of a jawbone that pathologist identified those loose teeth as being those of John Rufus
for years rubus had eluded law enforcement in several countries now fire and apparently accomplished what
the law could not john rubus was out of business or was he it began with a few whispered rumors but in the months that
followed the grisly discovery in puerto rico authorities began to suspect at the
fiery death of john rubus was in fact a cunning hoax a ruse to avoid prosecution
tonight in an exclusive interview a former member of the drug lords inner circle claims that john rubus is very
much alive and as busy as ever the sprawling Empire of John Reuben is operated with military precision a fleet
of small airplanes ferried tons of cocaine and marijuana from secret plantations deep in the jungles of
Colombia Panama and Jamaica the flights converged at the island of Puerto Rico the drugs were repackaged
and then shipped into the United States through Milwaukee and Chicago between 1981 and 85 rubus slipped an estimated
30 million dollars worth of drugs into the u.s. the rubus operation was a model of efficiency the pre-arranged times
illicit cargoes arriving from South America were dropped just off the coast of Puerto Rico small boats were already
in place winning to retrieve the drugs in most cases rubus had two hands-on with the drug trafficking where a lot of
the higher echelon drug traffickers normally would stay in the background rubus came to the foreground and
actively got involved in the distribution process the drugs were brought from the beach to a hidden
processing plant in the Puerto Rican highlands there the large bundles have broken down into one pound packages it
could readily be smuggled into the u.s. John is one of the craftiest guys I've ever met in my life and his ability to
smuggle drugs into the United States unmolested you know he has several years maybe five six seven eight years of
successful smuggling with no type of wiretapping or anything ran a real self organization rubus was
very ruthless that's typical of the drug business you you have to gain your respect through fear and rubus was very
good at that in one notorious incident Ruba supposedly became suspicious at one of his pilots was running his own
smuggling operation using a company plane and i see that it takes you twice the time using twice as much fuel I get
nervous yeah but we have the problem down [Music] hey John you've got the wrong man here
yeah that's right I got the wrong man how did I walk down gorilla vodka what do you think it would take for me to
pull the trigger huh what do you think it would take Oh what do you think I'm gonna take go on get
out of here get out get out rubus ruled was such an iron hand that it took investigators years to penetrate
the organization locate the hidden processing plant and close in on rubus himself by December of 1987 authorities
in the United States had enough evidence to charge 37 members of the Ring every one of them was arrested everyone but
John rubus he seemed to have vanished into thin air three months later the charred remains
were identified as rubus based solely on the four teeth found at the scene in the
United States the outstanding charges against rubus were dropped in Puerto Rico police uncovered a vendetta that
had apparently led to the murder of the fugitive drug lord donald kertzer a former associate of rubus was convicted
of masterminding the hit allegedly rubus was killed in retaliation for raping both Kurt sirs girlfriend and the
fourteen-year-old daughter of Kurt sirs housekeeper according to Puerto Rican authorities
the night of his death rubus arrived at the airport in San Juan he was met there
by two women one of whom was ultimately convicted in the case although he rarely
drank rubus was said to be heavily intoxicated explaining that they had an unexpected errand but women drove their
passenger to a deserted area on the outskirts of town [Music] well - chica [Music]
[Music] officialy John rubus ceased to exist official but a few months later his
former associate Richard received a call from a dead man I have no doubt about it
being John rulers you know we had acquaintances you know an extensive period of time so I mean you know I know
his voice anywhere we also began to receive information through some various other of the co-defendants that had been
charged in the case that perhaps rubus was alive that they had seen him that they had talked to him and what was
reported to us was that one of the defendants wives had received a telephone call from a person that she
identified as John rubus authorities have another reason to believe rubus is still alive it was simply too smart to
let himself be trapped john rubus in the business he was involved in illegal narcotics was a very suspicious
individual and took a lot of precaution to protect himself he never travelled alone and when he did travel he always
traveled armed so the facts that were put together just did not fit well with what we knew of John Rubis
two people have served time in Puerto Rican prisons for the murder of John Reubens but was rubas truly the victim
or was someone else assassinated in his place rubus was fully capable of staging
his own death and may well have had his own teeth extracted in order to accomplish a false identification of a
body and I believe that there was substantial reason to believe that John rubus is alive he could have he did pull
it off I know John pretty well I mean and John is a very mystique type of guy one thing that he would never do is call
yourself in a situation where he couldn't get out he always had an exit that most people didn't know about
bottom line is that John ruled was still rights [Music] when we return surprising discoveries in
a treasure hunt downtown Los Angeles [Music] Spanish doubloons royal jewels chests of gold in our
experience is nothing like an old legend of buried treasure to learn otherwise sensible folks into the wilderness to
risk their lives while these tales may be rich in history and folklore we've learned that they don't usually amount
to much when it comes to actually finding anything of value that is until we heard about the Buried treasures of
Elysian Park 575 acres of hills and secluded canyons situated just two miles from the heart of downtown Los Angeles
in June of 1994 unsolved mysteries brought in a team of historical researchers and high tech surveyors to
follow up age-old rumors of buried gold and jewels it would now be worth millions incredibly the sensitive
instruments revealed that the legendary treasures of Elysian Park may in fact be
real it seems hard to believe that 150 years ago Los Angeles was just a dusty Pueblo
a quiet outpost in the northernmost territory of Mexico but that way of life came to a sudden end in 1846 war had
erupted between Mexico and the United States according to stories handed down over the years well-to-do Angelenos
panicked as American forces drew near some dog elaborate escape tunnels others bury their family fortunes for
safekeeping this was the best thing that they could do to protect their valuables
but at the time and it was a customary way because there were no banks if you wanted to protect something bury it hide
it loose Elysian Park was the most logical place for people living in the Los Angeles area at that time - to bury
treasure through the years stories circulated that some families never came back and
that their treasures were still waiting to be discovered in Elysian Park in 1984
two sisters higher Roy Roush to explore in the park the women recalled their father
searching for one of the fabled treasures when they were children soon they located a spot that seemed
familiar that's pretty good I realized that this was an excellent place to bury treasure
because it was a place where you could dig a good sized tunnel without being observed those there was trees and Hills
well the first thing that attracted my attention was on the side of a sandstone bluff were three indentations the holes
seemed to be rather symmetrical and rather smooth and looked like it probably could be man-made however it
was quite possible that they could be natural also so keeping that in mind I'm now looking around for some other signs
and symbols about seventy-five feet away at the same level on the side of the hill I discovered some initials carved
in the side of another rock [Music] halfway between the two signs Roy spotted exactly what he had been looking
for evidence of an old tone found something it was not military it was not a miner's tunnel it was not for a
building it was not an old toilet pit it all came together it was perfect obviously it was a treasure shaft there
was no other reason for this hole being there it seems simple for a move dirt claimed treasure the sisters said they
had permits from Park officials when Roy suggested that the crew dig at night to
avoid attracting rivals we got down about 25 feet and I got a fairly good signal right in the center of the hole
we all got excited because metal detectors don't lie in a situation like that the instrument had indeed detected
buried artifacts but they were not exactly what Roy Roush was looking for we've uncovered two very old flashlight
batteries the oldest Fights light batteries I'd ever seen even though I got no more readings with my metal
detector after we uncovered the two flashlight batteries we kept digging 30 feet into the tunnel another artifact
the frayed end of a very old crudely made rope this was bad news so after finding the two old flashlight batteries
and the piece of rope it was quite obvious that somebody else had already beat us to the treasure years before for
Roy Roche it was a treasure hunters worst nightmare he was certainly had found the right
spot but far too late it was a combination of gratification and disappointment the gratification was
that we had correctly found a treasure tunnel and had excavated it but the disappointment was that after all the
time and money and work and effort that we put into it we had nothing to show for our efforts except a couple of old
flashlight batteries and a piece of rope although we came up empty-handed Roy Roush believes there are still buried
treasures in Elysian Park with a total value approaching 1 million dollars to test that theory unsub history's called
upon experts from the National underwater and marine agency or Numa a non-profit group that conducts both
ocean and ground surveys their surface investigation was fully approved by city officials the sensing device emits radar
waves as it is dragged across the field a cross-section of what lies underground
shows up on this monitor an anomaly such as a cannon or perhaps a treasure chest
would appear on the screen as a discernable shape among the colors now if there's a foreign object in there
like maybe a box or cannon something doesn't belong there we can see it we have an image of it now we don't know
what it's made of yet so we'll come back over and do electromagnetic survey to see if that cannon type object is a log
or really has some metal to it or that box could have some gold or silver in it or if it's just a wooden box after the
survey was completed computers translated the information into these cross-sections
here is the first anomaly the open to interpretation these marks could suggest the presence
of a vertical tunnel rolling to a depth of roughly thirty feet the second anomaly was detected less than 10 feet
below the surface the survey findings indicate that this anomaly is not only a solid object but is also metallic if
there is treasure here I would prefer to see it stay here I'd like to keep that mystery alive I think it adds to the
mystique of this park I think it's something that people would probably continue to to talk about in the future
and help to keep the mystique of the treasure that might be in Elysian Park alive representatives of Numa believe
the anomalies may be important relics from the city's history links to its Mexican past however it is unlikely we
will ever know for sure obtaining a permit to excavate in Los Angeles is even more difficult than finding a
buried treasure and digging without a permit is strictly against the law violators are subject to arrest and
could end up in jail rather than on easy street next a man searches for the American soldier who helped save his
family during the final days of the Second World War recently we received a rather unusual
letter from one of our viewers she called our attention to the moving story of a man she knows in Germany who's
looking for someone here in the United States needless to say we were both intrigued and anxious to help so this
past summer we traveled to Europe and came back with a poignant mystery of kindness and compassion for more than a
decade siegfried Marguerite liar at Marlin Bock Germany have been searching for an unsung American hero a young
soldier who forged an unlikely friendship with Siegfried when he was just a small boy nearly half a century
ago 1945 the final days of the Second World War a Germany's civilian population it was a time of uncertainty
and despair among the innocent victims was young siegfried line whose neighborhood and Ludvig haven was
leveled by Allied bombers Siegfried's mother immediately fled with her three youngest children the liar's walked 125
miles to take refuge with relatives in the village of Muhlenberg they quickly discovered that the hardships especially
for children were universal just very bad histoire de mafia y FS for Ben's a boy
and it suffice very little food to be had huge margin he had to go with smear vouchers and buy food but there wasn't
much around in March of 1945 American troops rolled into mourning back the German citizens
had feared the worst a conquering army bent on revenge but instead they encountered a benevolent
Corps of occupiers and provided them with food and medical supplies one of the GIS was a young man named Alexander
[Music] hey you want something c'mere chocolate prepare us all right hey hey kiddo
can you say chocolate if a sympathetic to me and fending for English yes will you take this home if it hadn't been for
him perhaps I would not be alive today it was a guardian angel for me I am Alexander American the guardian angel
took it upon himself to track Siegfried down Alexander took a genuine interest in the lyre family and before long the
food shortages were a dim memory he brought us food from the Army the same food eaten by salmon being also a saint
he used to come by every day if only to pick me up and take me to kill the gardener to pick me up there later
each time he would bring a little food the bond between the German child of the American GI grows stronger with each
passing day Alexander would often invite Siegfried to tag along routine patrols around town
gee hmm hey grab the wheel i watch the road watch the road enik meet me at the bank after the night bus
allowed to drive with him that was the most wonderful thing when I was sitting in the cars your other children saw me
saver perhaps I've been jealous because I prefer go out to drive and say Quentin
I first very proud I don't know if you can understand what I'm trying to say too
but I have to go inevitably a time came to say goodbye we may not see each other for a long
time for a very long time throw away a facade perhaps I should never see him again
yeah remembers I agree that you are great as I think about it to say that Vasily said
[Music] [Music] the boy [Music] Hashima bhagavad-gita I have always thought about how he helped us and said
I shouldn't turn helps other people he was not obliged to us in any face as a human pink human thoughts today
Siegfried has only one precious memento of Alexander this photograph taken in the spring of 1945 at the time Alexander
was approximately twenty years old he would now be around 70 Siegfried lire does not know Alexander's last name he
does know that Alexander was part of an army unit that marched in a more laid-back Germany on March 27th 1945
while there the soldiers were housed at the Gruner bomb guesthouse on a previous broadcast we brought you
the poignant story of the Krong family of Anna Wan Illinois just before Christmas in 1948
hilda cron and seven of her children had been evicted from their home the only available shelter was the Henry County
Jail eventually the children were all separated either put up for adoption or placed in foster care
eighteen years later two of the children Marie and Raymond managed to find each other together they set out to track
down the rest of the family [Music] for 18 years Marie and Raymond suffered through a series of near misses and
false leaves finally in 1993 they did locate one sister Carol then their story aired on unsolved mysteries incredibly
within a few hours two more sisters and three brothers had been found on July 9th 1994 we were at Raymond's house in
Houston Texas as the Kron family gathered for their first reunion at more than 45 years Marie's dream had finally
come true I've been looking forward this for a long time because I didn't know if I would ever
get to really meet him in person or not I feel that the love is you know still there it's it never went away it was
it's always been there and I always wondered about him and now I'll finally get to find out what's been going on
with their life and everything and get reacquainted [Music] for the oldest sister Betty Jane the
reunion was particularly emotional I knew that was Marie right away just by looking at her I knew that was Marie and
that's when the first one I embraced I was very happy to see them all and they all start coming to me and I start going
to them hugging them and everything so I was very happy and I feel so good I really do for Raymond the end of the
search meant a new beginning I always knew that their names and everything but I just as I you know I didn't know how
to go about finding them or anything we hunted and we just got turned down every
place we turn to try to find him and then do this count alone and it worked [Music]
join me next time perhaps you may be able to help solve the mystery [Music] [Applause]
[Music]

Brief Summary

Ghosts, drug lords, and buried treasure intertwine in this episode.

Key points

The Haunting of La Posada Hotel. A team investigates ghostly occurrences at a historic hotel in Santa Fe.
The Mysterious Death of John Rubus. Authorities suspect a drug lord staged his own death to evade capture.
Buried Treasures of Elysian Park. Rumors of hidden riches lead to a high-tech treasure hunt in Los Angeles.
The Legend of Elysian Park. Explorers believe treasures buried during the Mexican-American War may still lie in Elysian Park.
The Disappointment of Discovery. Treasure hunters uncover old flashlight batteries instead of the expected riches.
A Poignant Reunion. Siblings separated for 18 years finally reunite, filled with emotion and love.

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She was so distraught over the child's death.

Julia's grief after losing her child.

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