Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - Season 7, Episode 17 - Full Episode | Forensic Files

this program is about unsolved mysteries whenever possible the actual family members and police officials have
participated in recreating the events what you are about to see is not a news broadcast near Albany New York an
elderly couple was brutally murdered in their own home incredibly police solve the case only
after they enlisted the help of a psychic named Noreen Renier does Noreen have remarkable powers that enable her
to actually experience a crime from the victim's point of view tonight shall see
this unique detective in action imagine that you wake up one day in a park in New Orleans unable to remember your name
your age or where you came from how did it feel to not know who you are that's horrible
you know expect things like that happen to you she goes by the name Gigi no one knows what later forget but perhaps
someone watching can help her remember Alfredo and Cecelia new boss seemed the perfect couple with a perfect life until
the night Alfredo came home from work and made the sobering discovery that his wife had vanished did she leave her
husband for another man and was she the victim of foul play also tonight the poignant drama of a man who needs your
help to uncover his late father's secret life join me perhaps you may be able to help
solve a mystery [Music] [Applause] [Music] we are in a police evidence warehouse in
Los Angeles an unorthodox murder investigation is in progress what you are watching is real it is not
a recreation Noreen Renier is a psychic from Orlando Florida who works with the police among the psychics we have
profiled she is unique a true unsolved mystery Noreen Renier claims that she actually becomes one with the victims
she feels their pain speaks their words and sees the faces of their killers it can be a daunting painful and exhausting
way to make a living however the rewards for everyone involved are usually substantial to date
marinas work with the police in 32 different states and four foreign countries on some 385 different crimes
[Music] perhaps Nori's most stunning success was a case involving the deaths of Jake and
Dora Cole an elderly couple from colony New York a suburb of Albany at 9:50 p.m.
on May 15th 1986 Dora was on the phone with a couples only daughter who lived nearby in an
instant tragedy struck Dora screamed out her husband's name twice the daughter immediately called
911 then she telephoned her son James Mariani and rushed to meet him at her Paris house I hate to tell you this
they've been killed I'm sorry I'm very sorry the elderly female was lying on the floor with the phone still in her
hand it appeared that she had fallen over while on the telephone she was shot in a top of the head on a right-to-left
angle the male victim was on the floor in a hallway he appeared to be shot in the nose the only evidence that we found
was the entranceway door had been kicked in part of the the door stopper was laying on the kitchen floor and it was
two empty shells also laying on the floor when James Mariani knew at a glance at
the shells were 25 caliber he became a suspect in his grandparents murder police asked him to take a lie-detector
test even though they knew he had been at his own home when the murders occurred
did you shoot Jake and Dora no the test results were inconclusive and the police
remain suspicious James had a criminal record and friends with criminal records I was with the just couple of friends
Larry wiring JJ the police interviewed two men James had done jail time with Keith snare and Robert Skinner the
investigation eventually bogged down two years went by then Jake and Dora's daughter heard about Noreen Renier and
asked the police to contact her Noreen knew absolutely nothing about the case except the names and ages of the victims
[Music] Noreen I sent you some articles that were present at the crime scene it was November of 1988 Noreen worked
long distance my speaker fool asses that were odorous I'm going to start with the
glasses I'm gonna start with Dora I'm gonna try to tune in and see what she saw just before she was killed
we love to come when she was Dora she described how she was on a telephone with a female she hears a crashing sound
in full recipe Oh Jake Jay sure norine caught out Jake's name twice just as Dora had before she was shot
[Music] she's Jake she describes how she gets up hey catch ya goes down a narrow hallway
and she's confined with someone with the gun I know you what the hell are you doing
here Noreen remembers as she felt pain in the center of her face just where Jake had
been shot she had given a pretty accurate description of both Jake and aura and a fairly accurate description
of the crime scene this made me take notice and and feel that she was credible on what she was doing I'm going
to count from five to zero as I count your eyes will become heavier the police are beginning to feel that Noreen might
be able to help them crack the case they asked her to work with a forensic hypnotist one and zero now going back
back in time to May 15th 1986 Dora tell me about the intruder [Music] we knew him he was a younger man what
are you doing here and he came House dinner he did some work my husband want you to tell me his
name focus perhaps we'll take a letter a time do you see a letter S do you see another
letter following the hypnosis session we presented Noreen with a series of 10 photographs we had put three of them in
there who we felt were the suspects at this time the last couple of years I don't want to see them why don't you
just lay them face down and let me pick up the energies from them okay Noreen took the photographs matter of fact her
eyes were closed and and just shuffle through the photographs held them for a while held each one and then kept
placing one two three photographs down I feel the strongest energy from these three photographs and this one in
particular he might have been the one that killed Shaykh Endora the man in the first photo had nothing at all to do
with a case but the second photo was Robert Skinner a friend of Jake Andorra's grandson James Mariani the
third photo was Mariani himself it was not lost on the police that Robert Skinner's last name began with s the one
letter Noreen had visualized armed with Noreen's information the police check Robert Skinner's alibi
again it did not hold up eventually the DA proved that James Marriott he had conspired with Roberts Skinner and key
snare to rob his grandparents all three men are now serving lengthy prison sentences Noreen Renier had proved vital
in solving the case when the skeptics asked me how does it work my answer usually is you've been using
your logical rational mind for many years explain to me how it works how does your memory how do you learn
math how does the brain work when you spell you don't know and neither do i but you can use your mind and soak it on
if she can help me I would welcome anything she can give me detective Jim temple of the LAPD is currently working
with Noreen on the case of 42 year old rosemary ha co-owner of a Chinese bakery near downtown Los Angeles she was
kidnapped and stabbed to death on November 5th 1994 [Music] the last person to see rosemary alive
was one of her employees just before 9:00 a.m. they noticed her van approaching the bakery
rosemary slowed down and wait on her way into the parking garage across the street the employee next observed that
an Asian man got out of a parked car and entered the garage just after rosemary drove in he waited for about a half hour
she never showed he didn't hear anything there wasn't anything suspicious but after a half hour of waiting he noticed
the garage door come up again and at this time he saw mrs. Hong's car coming out of the garage but it was an alley
asian driving the car [Music] eleven hours later rosemary homs van was found rosemary was
lying dead on the backseat although Noreen Renier usually works by phone for this case unsolved mysteries brought her
to Los Angeles with rosemary homs van parked behind it the Rosemary's watch in her hand
Lorraine seemed to become the victim yeah I'm rosemary my eyes are just like the closed set a little closed setting
us in the eyes there was some oval-shaped face for the police to make sure that my credibility becomes strong
I described what the victim looked like before we start the case I don't know anything about it so they have no way of
thinking I checked on who this person was I described the person what'd he look like or she looked like alive and
then I become killed stay with it stay with it just a little longer remember what you are seeing is
not a recreation suffered and you know countless when the point is that she focused in on the one one that really
caused her death and it was extremely painful to her that surprised me because that hasn't been in any report it hasn't
been in any news articles it has been on any press releases she talked about tattoos marks on them on the person that
we're looking at the tattoo she described is indicative of a group a gang I guess you might say that we have
charted for several years my face is more broad I have a police artist that I work with and I seen the bad guy and he
draws the bad guy if the victim saw the bad guy I can see how the victim saw him
if for some reason the victim got shot in the back or was asleep when they were killed I can go there and observe as
Nerine he's doing and what's going on so I can be several the victim the the suspect
and Narine can pop in and out I found the most impressive thing about Noreen was going into it not knowing anything
about the crime she was able to describe to me the crime scene described to me where the body was found she identified
a spot as a dump site no one knows about that except us so we're going to look at
everything she says you know with a great deal of credibility this is the full face composite that Noreen
visualized for the police artist this is a profile view composite based on the description given by the employee who
last saw rosemary homily [Music] [Music] next a husband becomes a potential suspect
when his wife and stepson mysteriously disappeared she was beautiful a devoted mother
by all accounts madly in love with her husband and now she is missing seven months ago Cecilia new ball mysteriously
vanished along with her six-year-old son at the time Cecilia was eight and a half
months pregnant today her husband Alfredo new ball lives under a cloud of suspicion he says he had no involvement
in his wife's disappearance and in fact he claims to have an airtight alibi but both the police and Cecilia's friends
think Alfredo knows more than he is admitting Alfredo newborn and Cecilia Maya met in 1991 after a passionate
two-year courtship they married at the ceremony Cecilia son from a previous marriage Rene Perez was the ring bearer
the couple settled in Chatsworth California and almost immediately Cecilia became pregnant by September
20th 1994 cecilius due date was only two weeks away that afternoon she sat down to write thank-you notes for a recent
baby shower at around 2:30 p.m. Alfredo left for work as he reached the front door
Alfredo says he was stopped short by a strange undefined yearning the being pregnant she looks so
beautiful and that went barking he kissed her again I left her sitting at them inside the apartment
writing the thank-you notes and that was the last time that I saw my wife alfredo
worked as a nurse's assistant in a hospital and retirement home for members of the film industry two and a half
hours after his shift began Alfredo phone Cecelia I just had some kind of very weird feeling that something was
wrong she never answered the phone and I don't know if for some reasons I thought
that she could be visiting with some friends or being at my mom's Alfredo called several times throughout the
evening finally fearing the worst he left work early even as he approached the apartment
Alfredo knew that something was not quite right Cecilia's Jeep was parked on the street instead of in the building's
security lock inside the apartment Alfredo says nothing was out of place there were no signs of a struggle or a
break-in and no signs of Cecilia and Rene but in cecilius jeep alfredo found a sentimental generic goodbye card it was
signed simply Cecilia a moment later Alfredo's concern turned to bewilderment Cecilia's wedding and engagement rings
have been left on the passenger seat of the Jeep 12 Fredo the conclusion was obvious his wife must have left it the
relationship was always good we never had any problems fights why would she do something like
this not to leave me a note like that and painted to leave the wedding rings I guess it was very confusing to me
desperate for answers Alfredo phoned the one person he thought might know his wife's whereabouts her
closest friend at work Kevin Annabelle it was this phone call it would help cast suspicion on Alfredo new ball what
no CeCe's not here what's going on I don't know I mean she's got it either put her on I came home she's not here
and I was like you know how she's not here and you're you're really starting to scare me what's going on and he was
unusually calm like if it were me I would have been screaming at the person I thought where my wife was but he was I
was more nervous and excited than he was I felt like she needed to be away for a
few days or something I don't know it was very strange but a least I believed that she was coming back soon
it appeared that nothing was taken by Cecilia or her son Rene all his toys were left their clothing was left there
not so much as a toothbrush hello is this alfredo new ball the day after Cecilia disappeared the police caught
Alfredo they had been contacted by one of Cecilia's relative tell me mr. Duvall when was the last
time you saw her lime Cecilia uh yesterday afternoon I was getting ready to go to work then I gave her a
kiss and it was it mr. new bald didn't appear to be that concerned and here he has a eight and a half month pregnant
wife a six year old stepson that according to everyone and including mr. new ball if they all got along fine what
you got - mr. new ball just didn't appear to be the grieving husband soon to be new father the suspicions mounted
three days later when Alfredo received a letter postmarked a nearby Van Nuys California inside the envelope was a
card identical to the one found in the Jeep at a typewritten note Alfredo I have gone to undo lies with a man I met
nine months ago by the name of Arturo he said doctor I don't know if this baby is
yours or his I love you with all my heart but you will not amount to anything and I want only the best for my baby
Alfredo you can't give us that adios Cecilia and Rene my first impression after opening the letter was that uh she
had left but danced after reviewing the letter several times some Parsi don't sound like Cecilia doesn't strike me as
I thought Cecilia at all it's calm cabin Annabelle also found the letter out of character he was I would say she's
almost obsessed with out and when you're when you're that in love with a person you don't just meet a doctor and say
well I think I'm going to Honduras let me just write my husband a note that doesn't happen I took a look at the
letter spoke to friends and family of Cecilia later on and I am convinced that that letter is not from Cecilia whoever
type this letter knew more about Alfredo's side of the family rather than knowing very much about Cecilia side of
the family my best guess on this is that Cecilia Cecilia's disappearance is not by her
will I believe there's a third party involved in this was there a third party and if so was there a connection to
Alfredo six months before she disappeared Cecilia received a phone call from a still unidentified woman who may have
been that third party she had gotten a call that a woman had a videotape of Elle kissing another woman at a baby
shower and that the woman wanted Cecilia to see the tape and Cecilia had a great
to see the tape the woman said she would phone again to arrange a meeting that call never came and the matter was
apparently forgotten [Music] then just a few weeks before Cecilia disappeared a second mysterious call
this one from a woman who claimed to be a co-worker of Alfredo's from oh you weren't afraid Oh a woman had called and
and said that she was giving out they were gonna give al a baby shower at work and that she had some baby furniture and
she wanted Cecilia to pick out a piece of that furniture but to keep it a secret because the shower was gonna be a
surprise on the 20th yeah that's fine police later determined that the call had not been made by Alfredo's coworker
and that no shower had been play but by then it was too late she disappeared on Tuesday the day she was supposed to get
together with this lady to pick out a piece of furniture for the baby shower it's too much of a coincidence for her
to disappear on the same day it appears that someone is trying to lure her away from safety away from her family away
from her friends trying to get her alone if she's somewhere she doesn't want to come back to me but I just want to know
what happened to them and that's what I I really need the public's help finding something about this case it's my
opinion that mr. new ball is not telling me everything that he knows as far as Cecilia's disappearance he may
not have been there when she disappeared but it's my opinion that he knows something now
what happened as a celia new ball and her son Rene Perez were they abducted and perhaps murdered or did Cecilia run
away to be with another man if Cecilia's alive as Alfredo believes she is now the mother of their seven
month old child and Alfredo was concerned both for her and the baby I want to tell
or Cecilia if she happens to view this please get in touch if she doesn't want to ride me or talk to me on the phone to
at least call her dad you know he's like he's not well and I just want to tell you that there's a lot of people
suffering right now and still because what is [Music] [Music] in a moment the strange case of a young
woman suffering from amnesia perhaps someone watching knows her true identity [Music]
imagine suddenly finding yourself in a strange and alien place you scan your surroundings for clues even your own
possessions are unrecognizable finally the terrifying realization you don't know where you are they don't know who
you are you're suffering from amnesia that's horrible and as it's so subtle like
you're not prepared for it you don't expect things like that happen to you I didn't like I didn't know what to do
I know I didn't go get help somewhere [Music] the mystery woman of Audubon Park had
the vague notion that her name might be Gigi other than that she knew nothing of
her past tonight she is still asking herself a one fundamental question we all take for granted Who am I to help
Gigi find the answer we turned out a reporter Susan rozgin of NBC affiliate WDSU TV New Orleans
I met with Gigi in Audubon Park where her peculiar Odyssey begins six months ago
Gigi struck me as articulate and well-educated what's it like to not have any past what
is it like to be a person living without a past and not knowing how you got here
it's strange I feel like I'm a blank um I had a nothing to base anything on so I
could just go by they day by day what I realized day by day GG these are the things that you had when you woke up
here at Audubon Park did you recognize them right away as your things no I just assumed they were mine because they were
with him with me there wasn't anyone else close to me so I just assumed they were mine I couldn't help puzzling over
the odd assortment of belongings that sum up Gigi's life laid out for display they painted a disjointed picture four
pairs of scissors a gold-plated table setting ups notices that only company personnel should have and deposit
envelope specific to banks in the northeastern United States and finally there was the makeup Gigi was carrying
no less than 26 - blip stick 24 lip liner pencils and dozens of other cosmetics presumably
some of these things are clues to Gigi's real identity but so far they haven't helped a bit to date police have
reviewed hundreds of missing-persons files doctors have probed and tested even sodium amytal a so-called truth
serum couldn't pierce the fog of Gigi's amnesia now a hospital official named Doyle McGee has voluntarily assumed the
job of uncovering Gigi's past she's totally confusing do you believe that Gigi sincerely does not remember her
past I do she has made a conscious effort to assist me on every phase of trying to find out who she is through
the law-enforcement agencies through the media if she was in fact trying to conceal her identity she would not have
signed the releases that allow us to do this Doyle McGee is especially mystified by
the total absence of anything personal in Gigi's wallet or handbag he fears that this omission is no accident
somebody has gone to great pains to make sure that we don't know who she is the wallets were fairly new I had absolutely
nothing personal with him no personal photos no credit cards no checks purse had no receipts and you
know I don't I don't know of any ladies who didn't accidentally drop a receipt or something in her purse what could
have triggered Gigi's amnesia experts believe she may have seen or experienced something so horrible that
in defense her memory simply shut down if someone watching helps you find out who you were are you a little afraid to
find out who you were I went to now even then because it's been so long that I you know not knowing that it doesn't
match me but it's good or bad I just want to know what do the terms past present and future mean to you now all
the passes to me is the pass done now and the presents just in a life in the future he's very
uncertain for me now at this point Gigi has been trapped in the limbo of amnesia since February 1995 with luck
she will soon discover her true identity otherwise she has no choice but to close
the door on her past assemble a new legal identity and begin her life again from scratch
[Music] next a man needs your help to find the truth about his father's mysterious past
[Music] it is a sorrowful event that we must all face someday a death of a parent for an
11-year old boy named Bob Coleman it was a time to reflect on everything he had ever known about his father or at least
everything his father had wanted him to know [Music] by all accounts richard Coleman was an
ordinary man who lived a fairly uneventful life Richard worked as a vending machine
mechanic in Washington DC it served in the military and married 1947 Bob was born two years later and today Bob's
strongest memory of childhood is a love of baseball he shared with his father he
had a passion to play ball and we'd go out to the yard to the side yard in the front yard and he pitched the ball to me
and I'd hit it and it was something that I enjoy the awful lot and I loved being
outside with him and playing ball whenever we could Richard Coleman passed away in 1961 a short time later Bob
received the first hint that his father had been a man with many deeply held secrets curiosity drew Bob to an old
trunk at the foot of his parents bed inside was a tantalizing collection of his father's military mementos what are
you doing Bobby was dead in the army yes he was but your dad didn't really like to talk about it honey
he did something in the army that he wasn't proud of why don't you just close it up I remember many many times too
asking my mom about my dad and specifically honing in on the items in the footlocker and she didn't have too
many explanations other than that she believed that my dad had done something he wasn't real proud of and that his
words were it's over and done with [Music] 14 years past finally in 1975 Bob's own experiences in
the military drew him back to the forbidden contents of the trunk bob was flooded with emotion as he once
again held the uniform which had so fascinated him as a child it had the silver bars of a first lieutenant still
on it it had the insignia interestingly enough of Medical Corps a plane caduceus
which would indicate that the person who wore that uniform was a medical doctor in the army
was it possible the richard coleman bending machine mechanic had been a doctor in the army for bomb the very
possibility triggered a vivid childhood memory my mom had cut her hand out and very very badly and there was a lot of
blood she was bleeding profusely and I remember my dad taking control of the situation sizing up the emergency he
applied the pressure to the to the cut and actually knew about pressure points and and did something that I don't
remember because I was small but he did something that he actually was able to stop the bleeding pretty quickly and he
took control this situation in a way that would lead me to believe that he knew more about the medical and field
than somebody who was not trained I had a boy see everything is fine why would Richard Coleman abandon medicine to
become a vending machine mechanic Bob could no longer ignore the fact that his father was not the man he thought he
knew the trunk yielded other perplexing clues though the uniform was from the Second
World War Bob discovered several prestigious medals from the First World War almost
30 years earlier the awards included a Legion of Honor ribbon a necrotic heir the French cross of war another item
from the First World War raised still more questions it was a World War one certificate and as I looked at it I
remember noticing that items had been written over someone had gone back after it was issued and put my father's name
Richard Coleman and his and a service number and other information were written over the original inscriptions
the same envelope which contained the certificate held a piece of paper which appeared to be a crib sheet on it
Richard Coleman had practice writing the same words and numbers that had been forged on the certificate Bob checked
with a Veterans Administration he wasn't really surprised to learn that the discharge certificate had belonged to
another man but a second discovery left Bob truly stunned there was no record of
a Richard Coleman ever having served in the Army Medical Corps either in the first or second world war that's his
room right there the sudden developments once again thrust Bob back to his childhood and the final days of his
father's life hi honey to see you how you feeling today I've got a little better good
is anybody came to visit you know you're the first one what about your brothers and sisters in your family
we're daddy's family honey sure I remember asking several times well my dad's sick he's probably going to pass
away where's his family and why isn't anyone up here to see how he is or you know to visit him beautifully Tracy yeah
and my mom really wouldn't answer it she didn't have an answer I guess and I never never got any satisfactory
explanation for that who was Richard : and just what secrets was he hiding the trunk held one other
important clue a roster supplement from a New York City gun club it listed Richard as a member in 1944 and gave his
occupation special patrolman from tax records Bob learned that his father had been employed as a security guard at a
bank in Manhattan from 1943 to 1945 however the bank had no employment records for a Richard Coleman when
Barbara searched his father's address from 1944 yet another startling detail surfaced my father may have lived with
an ALICE Coleman and I don't know what her maiden name was but voting records indicate that they were married and that
she was a housewife and that she lived with Richard Coleman I've never been able to confirm their marriage because
there's no record that I can find and indeed I don't know where Alice Coleman went to because after 1967 she does not
appear and have met in the Manhattan phone books was there something in Richard kolnas
past that made him change his identity why did he keep his apparent marries to Alice Coleman secret and why despite a
trunk filled with mementos did the military have no record of his serving in either World War Bob's mother passed
away in 1983 without giving him any clues today Bob Coleman is determined to find the answers whatever they may be
I'm not trying to judge my father I'm trying to learn about him and I'm perfectly aware that there may be
something that he did 50 60 years ago that was pretty bad perhaps and it would have prompted him to change his identity
and to obscure his past but it's also something that's very important to me because it's my father and it may be the
only way that I ultimately end up really knowing who he was and what he did and I'm very passionate and very committed
to doing that [Music] confess and in hand with modern medicine on our next unsolved mysteries bring you
the inspirational stories of a woman and a young boy who battles serious illness
isn't fully recovered some believe at the power of prayer helps save their lives join me next time for another
intriguing edition unsolved mysteries [Music] [Applause] [Music] you

Brief Summary

Psychic Noreen Renier helps solve a murder, while Gigi seeks her identity and Bob uncovers his father's hidden past.

Key points

The Role of a Psychic. Noreen Renier claims she can experience crimes from the victim's perspective.
A Gruesome Discovery. An elderly couple is brutally murdered in their home, shocking their family.
Mysterious Disappearance. Cecilia Newball vanishes without a trace, leaving her husband in turmoil.
The Letter from Beyond. A letter arrives postmarked from a nearby town, raising more questions.
Amnesia's Terrifying Grip. A young woman wakes up with no memory of who she is.
Gigi's Amnesia Mystery. Gigi struggles with her identity after losing her memory. 'Who am I to help?'

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How did it feel to not know who you are? That's horrible.

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