True Crime Garage /// Off The Record Episode #3 | Forensic Files

[Music] the other strange thing regarding this Billy screw neck is there there's not
100% conclusive evidence that this was a suicide I believe on his death certificate it does state that his death
was caused by suicide however when he was receiving medical attention for the poisoning for poisoning himself let's
say he denied poisoning himself he also did not tell the medical professionals what he had ingested so there's some
thought out there that that this wasn't technically a suicide that it might be a
poisoning okay that's not one for a second though because you said he takes this poisoning then he was in a coma but
at some point it's implying that he was talking to medical staff he was talking to them before the coma he was he didn't
ingest this stuff and then he's found like blacked out somewhere I'm falling you know he ingested this stuff and then
he went about his day like he'd left his apartment and and went about his day and
so a lot of people have called into question if in fact this is a suicide because I gotta believe that most of the
time if somebody poisons himself they don't just go about their day they stay and wait for the poison to take effect
yeah yeah so and he's saying that he wasn't poisoned he's saying he didn't poison himself I don't know that he
directly said those words because I don't have you know I don't have anything other than third hand knowledge
of the conversation but I would imagine you know if you show up in there and your insides are burning and you
describe it like that I'm sure one of the first thing the the medical professionals are going to ask you is
well what have you eaten today what have you drank today did you did you ingest something that you shouldn't have or 30
package 30 packages of ketchup but you know what I mean and I so so in a way you can say that's a denial if if he did
take that knowingly and then said though I just you know I had a coca-cola or something
and so he went about his day mm-hmm that would he went about his day and I think
he was at work and he was complaining about not feeling well and he he was taken to the hospital and it was there
that he fell into this coma and he eventually died it was about two days after it's weird though because a couple
thoughts on that one is did he ingest the stuff and did it hurt didn't did it not do what he thought it would do right
away and then did he think wow this could get really bad and nobody's gonna come looking for me
and that's gonna be depressing himself so I'll just go to work and if something bad happens then it happens there man I
want to speculate too much I'm just saying that I mean this this is the case is just so fascinating well it's weird
cuz yeah I mean it's like well if you went to work what's the point in that is that to make a scene but then you would
think he would want to tell people that he ingested something but then it's like
well if I tell them what I took maybe they solved the problem and I don't die right he was really set on dying the
other issue though is what was in that note this is a note that is deemed by some to be a quote-unquote suicide note
and because it must be a journal but but we don't know what that said mmm-hmm you
know did it did it say I took this dried gas to kill myself that's a lot different than if it's just some kind of
Randall random scribblings of something and it's generally it's generally believed by his family that he did
commit suicide they may have more they obviously would have more insight insight to it than he would but we don't
you know that's not if they're wrong about that then maybe they're wrong about the idea that we all believe he
killed her I don't know what's it's a very fascinating part of the story well one thing that I've always firmly
believed in and we didn't I didn't give my theory on on what I think happened well that that that case we covered it
way different because it was just we we invited Renner down from Cleveland to to Columbus and my favorite part
about his morn he doesn't he didn't know who the hell we were hmm and the fact that he would drive two and a half hours
on a whim basically and he didn't know if he's showing up to some dudes house or what and and we even told him like
it's a professional studio like we I mean we were super amateur at that point right and so our thought was like and
let's not inviting them to the garage it's kind of smelly in here piss smell yeah I don't know about that but it's
also a comfort level it's also a comfort right right okay so like when I when I went up to and I think the best way to
describe this Aimee Mahalo Vic project I think what I can say what I can say is that I'm helping them with the project
and it's it's been an ongoing thing that's been phone calls and things like that you're recording on the audio yeah
but when I when I went up to Cleveland to help them with this project mm-hmm I'm having lunch with Renner and we're
talking I said that real quick was he eating oh we we both had a sandwich of some kind I mean it was lunchtime so his
regular lunch stuff I didn't pay attention to what he wanted I didn't pay attention to what the order so I figured
him to be like a soup and salad guy it was not soup and salad cuz you're a soup and salad guy but I had a sandwich yeah
but you are soup in salad yeah I do like soup and salad I've gone to lunch with you many times me order the soup and
salad I like who does this I had sandwich and chips and I think he had some kind of sandwich and chips and no
beer but that's because you were recording later well and I had to drive two and a half hour at some point
good job detective so I said to him I said I said he goes hey

True Crime Garage /// Off The Record Episode #2

Brief Summary

Billy Screw Neck's death raises questions of suicide versus poisoning and the mystery behind his final actions.

Key points

The Mystery of Billy's Death. Billy's death certificate states suicide, but evidence suggests otherwise. Was it really suicide?
The Confusion of Poisoning. Billy was poisoned but denied it to medical staff. What really happened?

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

Did he ingest the stuff and did it hurt?

2:45WatchMay 15, 2018

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