The two sides of Greg Williams | Forensic Files

my name is Steve mcwain and I've known Michelle Williams since around 2008 when I went to work for Greg I've got to know
her quite well working out of his house in a business relationship and on a personal relationship he taught me
everything that I know he could read something and it would be in his head you he had like a photographic memory he
was good at what he did and um he passed on a lot of that knowledge to me and so
you know I'll always be grateful to him for that once you were in his circle of friends uh he would do anything for you
if I was down in the maluck I needed money whatever it was he would he would take care of his friends but then he
also had the other side where um you know for a minor little thing that I did wrong or forgot to do something he would
cuss you like like nothing and uh you know he would berate you I mean just verbally abuse you he did that with
everybody I mean he did that with his kids with his wife uh with his employees I'd worked for him for 3 years and um I
put up with that you know over those three years within months before he' died I I was literally praying that you
know something would change because I hated going to work uh I I literally was in fear of making a mistake every day
Michelle um I first met her when she was in the hospital she had just had Michaela she seemed to be a good mother
a model wife they loved each other and it seemed like a pretty good marriage we were pretty close uh because of Greg
being the common factor to us we kind of uh vented with each other about Greg and
you know the way he was so through that we got to know each other you know pretty good I considered her a pretty
close friend when it first happened I helped her get the business to where we could get our customers taken care of
and and off to other companies so we were still pretty close there that time because of going through the grief of
losing Greg But as time went on then you know I kind of started seeing another side of her where it seemed like she was
always telling lies to us and U never knew what the truth was from her it was a sight I've never seen before um
because she was almost a model wife and a model mother and so things did change after uh Greg had been killed

Steve McSwain, a friend of Greg and Michele Williams, talks to "48 Hours" about the two very different sides of Greg. If you were his friend "he would do anything for you." But if you crossed him, "he would berate you."

Brief Summary

Steve McWain discusses his friendship with Michelle Williams and the impact of Greg's personality on their lives.

Key points

The Duality of Greg. Steve reflects on Greg's supportive yet abusive nature, revealing a complex friendship.
Meeting Michelle. Steve shares his first impression of Michelle Williams as a caring mother and wife.
Shifting Perceptions. After Greg's death, Steve notices troubling changes in Michelle's behavior.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I was literally praying that something would change because I hated going to work.

Reflecting on the fear and anxiety of working for Greg.

1:07WatchOct 3, 2016

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