Forensic Files

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 4: Girl Talk

Dateline NBC

  • Feb 9, 2026
  • 34:29
  • Full Episode
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<p>Detectives leave Helen and Olga alone together in a room wired for sound. Old resentments boil over. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Brief Summary

Helen Golay and Olga Rutter-Schmidt commit insurance fraud and murder, leading to their dramatic arrests and interrogation by LAPD and FBI agents.

Key points

  • A Dramatic Confrontation. Witness a tense confrontation between Helen and Olga as their partnership unravels in an interrogation room.
  • The Takedown of Helen and Olga. In May 2006, a well-orchestrated affair led to the arrest of two elderly women for insurance fraud and murder.
  • The Greed Factor. Helen and Olga's partnership was marred by greed, leading to betrayal and suspicion.
  • The Bone Collector's Connection. A movie ticket leads to shocking revelations about Paul Vados' death.
  • Exhumation of Paul Vados. Detectives exhume Paul Vados' body for crucial evidence in the case.
  • Surveillance Footage Discovery. Detectives uncover critical surveillance footage related to Kenneth McDavid's murder.

Tension

75/ 100High tension

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