The Speeding Duck, the Hungry Javelina, and “Leonardo da Pinchy” | Criminal Podcast | Forensic Files

Hello, Phoebe. Here is Sven from Switzerland. >> Hi, Sven. Sven Montgomery is the head of
the police inspectorate in a town near Burn, Switzerland. >> The municipality of Karnitz.
>> So, what is a typical day like at your job? Oh, my typical day is actually um
drinking a coffee first and then I get my computer started and normally I'm always uh writing emails, answering
phone calls to people which who are upset about getting a fine. >> Sven says he and his colleagues mostly
handle things like speeding tickets and parking fines. Each week they go through a batch of
photographs of speeding cars captured by the speed radar cameras around town. One day last April, Sven's colleague,
Susan Hobbecker, was looking through the photos and she noticed that one Speed Radar's camera had been triggered by
something that wasn't a car. There is a a duck on the photo. What is the duck doing in the
photograph? He is flying flying flying through the street. In the photograph, there's nothing else
on the road, just this duck right in the center with its wings stretched out. So,
to to trigger the speed radar camera, you have to be going a certain speed. >> Yeah, the speed limit there was 30 and
the duck meant 52 km per hour. >> That's a fast duck. That was I don't know how fast ducks are, but the duck
was way too fast. >> What's the penalty for going that fast? Oh, that would have been a heavy penalty
because uh normally if you compare it to the to a car driver, it would have given
a report to the public prosecutor and normally I think the duck would have lost the driving license and even fine
like like like much more than,000 Swiss Franks which is like a$,300 US or something like that.
>> Have you ever seen any other animals speeding like that? Uh, no. No. Sometimes we have a Santa
Claus in December, but um, not at the Santa slate in by car. >> Just Santa, not his sleigh.
>> Yes, there we have also a good picture. >> I I heard someone put up the picture of
the duck. >> Um, yes, it's on the wall. We have We have a hall of fame with the pictures also with the Santa Claus. Oh,
so the duck is next to the Santa Claus. >> Yes. Yes, exactly. >> Sometimes Fen is up there, too.
>> I'm I'm doing a lot of biking, so sometimes I I'm also in the other my team. If they think there's a funny
picture, they put them up to remember me that I shouldn't go too fast. >> I want to see a race between you and
that duck. The duck and you on your bike and see. >> Have a look. It depends. If you go
downhill the other direction as the duck went, then I perhaps I might be fast enough to follow and otherwise no
chance. >> The duck isn't contending with hills like you might be. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She she has a easy she
don't has to follow the the roads and then me unfortunately I have to stay on the road.
If this is your first December listening to Criminal, you might not know that we
have an annual tradition of creating these animals episodes dating back to 2021.
It all started with a story from 1908 we saw when reading an old archival newspaper. A dog, a quote splendid
Newfoundland outside Paris, saved a small child who fell into the sen. The dog was rewarded with a steak.
2 days later, the same dog saved another child from drowning in the river. Then it happened again.
Quote, "Whenever the dog saw a child playing on the edge of the stream, he promptly knocked it into the water and
jumped in to the rescue." He had thus established for himself a profitable source of revenue. End quote.
The headline was dog a fake hero. We're now on our fifth annual animals episode. Last year's included a dog that
ate $4,000. We brought you stories about bees, seagulls, camels, foxes, and pigs.
This year, the episode hit a little close to home when the building where we record had a sudden and unexplained flea
issue. At first, someone thought kittens had snuck in or been led in. Eventually, it was discovered that the
source of the fleas was a possum living in the HVAC system. As of this recording, the possum has
outsmarted multiple professionals. It's an ongoing mystery and as a result, I'm recording this episode in my guest
bedroom. Happy 5 years of animals really going for it. I'm Phoebe Judge. This is
Criminal. In April of 2022, the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office in Arizona got a call
about a car in a vacant lot in a town called Cornville. An officer went to investigate.
Sure enough, as I round to the corner, there was a Subaru hatchback off kind of under some trees and it looked like it
had almost been parked under the trees or left there abandoned. It was looked to be a little little odd to say the
least. >> This is Sergeant Zebediah Dickinson. He said it looked like it could have
been a getaway car that someone ditched. He parked his own police car nearby >> and uh got out of my own vehicle and
walked over and there was a havalina inside of the Subaru. >> Havalas technically aren't pigs, but
they do look just like them. >> Here in Arizona, there's there's an abundance of them.
>> How big are they? >> They range from 40 to 80 lb. >> And are they nice? They're nice maybe from a distance. I
They're known to be a little aggressive if you stop you get up close to them. Got pretty large teeth that I'm sure if
they got a hold of you would be a uh wouldn't make for a good day for somebody. >> Zebedaya remembers when he walked up to
the car, it looked like the havalina had chewed up parts of the inside. All of the doors were closed. It didn't seem
like it could get out. It took a little bit of investigating and just I guess imagination to say the
least how and why the vehicle was where it was with the Havalina trapped inside.
He tried to figure out where the car had come from asking neighbors who were around.
He learned that it belonged to a man who lived across the street. He said that when he knocked on his door
at first, the man seemed like he didn't want to talk. >> I don't think he was very understanding
initially that there in his car. I'm I'm sure if I told that to anybody else, I'd
think it was a joke. >> He also didn't understand how his car had ended up in the vacant lot.
Zebedaya learned that the man had left the rear hatch of his car open overnight in his driveway across the street.
>> And there was a bag of Cheetos that were inside the inside the car. So, doing my
my investigation there, it seems that the Havalina was having a a midnight snack, for lack of better terms. Zebodia
thought the hatch must have closed when the Havalina jumped into the car for the
Cheetos and that it spent the rest of the night trying to get back out. The vehicle was a manual. So all the
thrashing around and kicked the vehicle in neutral rolled from the driveway across the road and down into the under
the trees on the opposing side. >> Zebediah says getting it out of the car was much harder than he'd expected.
>> The wasn't moving much until I got closer to the window and then it kind of snarled out the window. Um
>> Zebadiah decided to tie a rope to the handle of the rear hatch. run the rope through the window of his own patrol car
and from the front seat of his car pull the rope and open the hatch. You didn't want to just open the door.
>> No, after that initial walking up to this car and it trying to like I don't want to say eat me, but it it felt that
way through the window. I I don't sight of caution for that part. >> So, you protected yourself with a rope
and you sat in your car. >> Yep. and cracked the latch, pulled and and just said a little prayer that
hopefully he'll just move along his day. So, >> and did he? >> Absolutely. I I think he was more
excited to get out of there than I was. >> So, he jumped out and he went running
away. >> Long gone, never to be seen or heard from since. >> Did you get a pretty good look of the
car once he got out of there? What he had done? >> The dashboard itself had been chewed on.
Some of the seats were torn up. The bag was definitely torn open. So, the cheetahs were gone.
>> One of my favorite stories of the year happened in Bavaria, Germany. People in an apartment building were
woken up late at night by someone ringing their doorbells. When they looked, they couldn't see anyone. It
didn't make any sense. One resident said she thought it was teenagers playing a prank.
But then her upstairs neighbor called to say someone was ringing her doorbell. Quote, "It kept ringing even as we
telephoned despite the fact no one could be seen at the door. We became really uneasy.
That's when we decided to call the police. Two officers arrived. The bell kept ringing. No one saw anyone. The motion
detector wasn't activating. And then looking very closely, everyone noticed a trail of slime and a slug
taking a walk across the doorbell panel. A police spokesperson said the slug had
been taught about boundaries and placed on a nearby stretch of grass. We'll be right back. To listen without
ads, join Criminal Plus. Did he come with the name Joshua or did you give him that name?
>> No, it did Joshua. That was his name when we got him. >> It's kind of a funny name for a goat.
>> I know. I have no idea where that name came from. >> This is Heidi Taylor. One day a few
years ago, Heidi's father was buying goats for their farm. And one of them was Joshua.
>> Actually, after him, we had a female goat with him. And we called her Dolly. I don't know if you know, well, you know
the singer Dolly Parton. She sung a song called Joshua. And that was why she was
called Dolly because of him. >> Joshua lives on Heidi's farm, Taylor's Pumpkin Patch in New Finland. People
call me his person because he watches me wherever. I'm also the one who gives the
treats. So, >> at the pumpkin patch, Joshua spends most of his time outside, but he does have
his own little house. And Heidi takes him for daily walks, like on a leash. >> He's walked with a leash, but even
though there's a leash on him, I don't hold it. Joshua walks with me by my side. And when I turn around to come
back, he'll come back. If I run, he'll run. If I stop, he'll stop. I don't have to tell him. He just does whatever I do.
One day last year, Heidi was at home with her husband about a mile away from their farm. It was a Sunday and the
pumpkin patch wasn't open. And then her husband Colin asked Heidi to come over and look at something on
his computer. and he says to me, um, I think we have a problem. He was looking on Facebook just somebody
said there's a goat, a goat on the loose and he said Joshua is down at the intersection in a community called Long
Pond and he's in the intersection on the crosswalk and he's running and I thought, "No, no way." And when I looked
at the picture, it was him. Heidi says she was surprised because Joshua had never escaped before.
Whenever he got loose on the farm, he never went anywhere. But that day, the town was holding their
first half marathon. Over 200 people had signed up. They were running along an old rail bed, and the course went right
by Joshua's house on the pumpkin patch. >> And when they were running by, he must
have thought, "I'm going with them." So he he broke he broke the uh his his rope
or his leash. >> There were more photos of Joshua popping up on Facebook. Heidi and Colin posted asking anyone who
saw him to send them tips if they saw Joshua. They decided to head to the last place
where they'd seen photos of him. We got the truck and then at that time Joshua loved cheeses. So we took
cheesies with us and >> he loved what? >> He loved cheesies. >> What is that? >> Soft cheeses.
Like potato chips but a chevy. He liked a bag of cheeses. >> Cheesies. A Canadian version of Cheetos.
When they got to the last place Joshua had been photographed, he wasn't there. But they found a crossing guard who had
seen him. >> Spoke to the crossing guard where the pitcher was said that he kept going with
the runners and stayed on the trail. He didn't wander off. He kept going with them.
>> Heidi and Colin kept following the raceourse. At another intersection, one of the
volunteers said they' just seen a goat go by. Another volunteer at a water station tried to stop Joshua, but he
seemed to want to keep running. People posted videos running with him. Some of the runners would form a little
ring around him. At one point, he seemed to be getting tired, so they slowed down
to stay with him >> because they were afraid something would happen to him. And when the next group
of runners would pass, he would take off and chase them. >> So he he just wanted to run.
>> He just wanted to run. Yep, he did. And then they heard that a runner had gotten
a hold of Joshua and handed him over to a police officer. They were waiting up ahead.
When Heidi and Colin caught up to Joshua, they decided to let him finish if he wanted to.
>> He kept running. He kept running and we let him do it. And he crossed the finish
line with some of the runners and was awarded a medal. >> How far did he end up running that day?
>> 5 km. So roughly 3 and 1/2 miles. >> That's a that's a long time for 150 lb 11year-old goat.
>> It's very long. And actually goats only live to be 14 to 15 years old. >> So he's kind of an old He's kind of an
old man. >> He is an old man. He is an old man. And actually the veterinarians, we had them
come in and check him out and to see he was okay. And they said it for his age, it's a wonder he ran that much. And he
was fine. He was he was totally fine. >> What did he do the next day? >> He slept the whole next day. The whole
day. >> Heidi says it was the first time she'd ever heard him snore. After the race, dozens of people came to
the pumpkin patch to see Joshua. They brought him apples and bread. Do you think he would tolerate a little
pair of shoes? >> No, I don't think over those hoofs. No, he's got he's got some pretty good hoofs
that we have to keep trimmed. Yes. >> Well, Heidi, I I hope that I get to run with Joshua someday. He seems like he'd
be a good companion. >> Well, it this run this year was bigger than last year. And majority of the
runners, half of them said to us, "The reason why we done it is because we were hoping Joshua would be in this race.
Earlier this year, Tony Dinardo and his family set off on a road trip from their
farm in Pennsylvania to New Hampshire. Tony was planning to run a marathon there. He's trying to run one in every
state. Tony packed their van the night before they left and strapped their luggage to
the roof. He, his wife Margaret, their daughter, and a few of her friends started driving at 5:30 in the morning.
Here's Margaret. >> It was about 45 minutes of country road, uphills, downhills, turns. It's a really
mountainous area to get from where we are to Interstate 80, which goes the whole way across Pennsylvania um into
New York and the the upper New England states. So, we were on that for about 45 minutes and then we got on Interstate
80, which is a busy interstate. You know, the speed limit 70 mph. There's lots of semi trucks.
How long were you driving before you made your first stop? >> A little over 2 hours. It was 105 miles.
>> And Tony, what happened when you pulled over? >> Nothing out of the ordinary until I saw
the cat. >> What do you mean you saw the cat? Well, I went ahead and got out of the van and
got my wallet out and I just started walking towards the back of the van and the pump and was getting my card out of
my wallet and then I looked up to the left and Ray Ray was just standing there looking at me.
>> Ray Ray, their cat, on the roof of the van >> on the back of the roof behind the
luggage carrier. I just at the first just couldn't believe it and then I started laughing
and at that time Margaret and the girls were walking around the front of the van
and she looked over and said, "What?" And I just raised my hand and Ray Ray looked at Margaret wanted someone to get
him down and hold him, I guess. >> What What was was Did he seem scared? What how was he?
>> No, not at all. He just stood He was just standing on the van like uh he normally would. Yeah, he when by the
time I got to the back, he was stretching. You know, cats will put their head down and stretch. He he was
just walking in circles, rubbing his head against the the luggage like nothing had happened. Here is Tony and
Margaret's daughter, Sophia. >> I don't get up to go to the bathroom a lot during road trips. I technically
sleep a lot. So, I was just waking up when my mom opened the door and got into the car with the cat. And I look at her
and I didn't notice at first and she's holding the cat in her arms and I was like, "Where did Ray Ray come from?"
>> Before they left home that morning, Tony remembers tightening the straps securing
the luggage to the car. >> And he wasn't there. We got in the car and started driving. So, he had to have
been holding on to the back of the luggage carrier >> with his claws, >> right? Because no one saw him either. I
could see no one seeing him on our rural trip, but on the interstate, you would have thought somebody may have seen a
cat on the roof and tried to alert us, but that didn't happen at all. >> Someone behind us,
>> right? Someone behind you like beep beep. There's a cat on your roof. Well, there were people passing us, but no,
they did not beep at all. >> No. >> N You said this was 105 miles that you had driven.
>> Yes. >> Windy roads on the highway going 70 miles an hour. >> Yes. My family liked to joke that they
were glad that my husband was driving because if I was, Ray Ray for sure wouldn't have made it.
>> When the Dinardos found Ray Ray, they talked about turning around to take him
home. But Tony said he's just going to come with us. And how was his trip? I mean, did he did
he take part in the activities? He did everything with us. Everything. We went hiking when we were in New Hampshire to
a couple state parks. Then we decided that Ray Ray should cross the finish line with my husband, which is exactly
what he did. We waited for him right, you know, before the finish line. and I passed him over the fence and Tony ran
right through the finish line with Ray Ray in his arms. We'll be right back. I had just completed my inspection of
the Redwood Skywalk. I was finishing up walking the remaining pathways of the zoo. Um, and my last stretch tends to be
going through the bear boardwalk. Um, so the bear habitat spans uh two sides with
a boardwalk uh that crosses between them. Uh, so I had just been finishing that route. Uh, and so it's a place I
expect to see bears. Um, I'm used to seeing bears. Um, just that day there was a bear on the wrong side or the
other side of the fence from where I normally see them. >> This is Christine Noel. She's worked at
Sequoia Park Zoo in Northern California for 9 years. The zoo has boardwalks that let you walk
up high in the trees in some places about 100 ft off the ground. Someone at the zoo has to check them
every morning to make sure nothing's broken overnight. One morning in October, Christine went
out to take a look. And that's when she saw a black bear walking along the boardwalk. I looked at him and and could
recognize immediately that this wasn't any bear that I knew who lived at the zoo uh and was an outsider who had come
by to visit. What was it doing? >> He was just taking a stroll. Uh yeah, he was just very relaxed and calmly uh
visiting uh each of our three bears going from sort of one to the other. Uh they were safely in their own quarters.
Um so all of those interactions were happening through a barrier through a fence.
>> Was he act I mean did he have pretty good behavior? >> Oh he was very calm, very comfortable.
Uh, at one point he laid down and looked like he was getting ready to just take a
nap. >> He thought he was spending the night in a hotel or something. >> Uh, yeah. Yeah, I think he thought he
found a pretty good place to live. U, but unfortunately, we are all full. >> Christine says the bear stayed on the
path and never tried to climb over the railings to get into the bear habitat. There's a picture of him with his two
back feet on the ground, standing up with his two front paws resting on the railing, peering down, looking into the
enclosure. He looks like anyone else just there for the day enjoying the zoo. How did the bear get in?
You know, we have a a perimeter fence that goes around the zoo um that's topped with barb wire that's there to be
keeping, you know, our animals safe. Um, but there are trees that are close to that perimeter fence. And our best guess
is that he had uh scaled a tree uh near the fence and was able to get past the the barb wire on top. Uh they have a
pretty thick fur coat, so you know, he probably got over without um encountering too much of the barb ends.
And uh if he's motivated enough, you know, bears are pretty intelligent and pretty physically capable of a lot. The
zoo has plans and drills for what happens if an animal escapes their habitat, but they'd never planned for a
wild animal coming into the zoo. Christine radioed other staff about the bear. Someone radioed back, "Is this a
drill?" The zoo delayed opening while Christine along with four other zookeepers and the
zoo director got to work. They closed the gates except for the ones on the path that led back to the forest.
Whenever the bear went the wrong way, they made loud noises to redirect it. What kind of noises do you make to to
keep the bear away? Oh, we have some air horns. We have a leaf blower that we use
for just cleaning the pathways, but it makes a a startling sound. So, um, between all of that, you know, we're
able to discourage him from staying too close. Eventually, after about 45 minutes, the
bear did leave. The zoo posted about the bear online. They said they had had an eventful
morning, but that the bear was overall a very polite visitor. One day earlier this year, Wendy Ballard
was on an important work call from her home in Auckland, New Zealand when she heard her 11-year-old son shouting.
Finished my call and I said to my son, "That was really rude. I told you not to interrupt that call. What was going on?"
And he goes, "Leo came running through the house and he stole your jacket, Mom." And I'm like, "What are you
talking about?" >> Wendy has security cameras in her house. She opened up her phone and looked at
the footage and there's this video footage of Leo running out of our house with my brand new $300 moair jumper um
running down the stairs of our house and up the driveway dragging it along the concrete and my son going Leo
mom. I'm Helen North and um I have a lovely little cat called Leonardo who's who's
rather naughty. He was named Leonardo initially by my daughter um because he used to lie on his back like a ninja
turtle. But then when he started um being a little bit of a criminal, he changed to Leonardo Dainci cuz it fitted
him better. >> From the very beginning, Helen says she knew there was something different about
Leo. >> The moment he came into the house, he was hunting down all of our socks. So he
would find our socks, bring them to us, and then we would throw them away back across the room and he would bring them
back. So he was very much into fetching. He loved that. And he wasn't really into
your kind of normal chasey cat toys like things that roll along the floor or fluffy mice. He always liked socks and
gloves. When Leo was about 4 months old, Helen and her family started letting Leo
outdoors. One day I came home from work and there was about 10 single socks on the lounge
floor and I thought to myself, my husband Tim, I thought, why would he leave all his socks there? That's weird.
But I didn't really think anything of it. And then Tim came home and said, none of those are my socks.
And then we sort of was settling down for the night to have dinner and Leo walked in with a t-shirt and we were
like, "Oh, oh dear." Helen and her family didn't recognize the t-shirt either. Leo started bringing more and more
clothing home. Sometimes every day, sometimes as many as 15 times a day. How many items of clothing has he
brought home at this point? >> About 300. >> Yeah. >> Including from Helen's neighbor, Wendy
Ballard. Leo's taken more than just her mohare sweater. >> He um has come back quite often. takes
things off the clothesline, so does fixate on my husband's socks. Um, he hasn't taken any of our underwear, but
he has definitely taken other neighbors underwear. Helen says Leo's also taken pants, shirts, boxers, gloves, a gym
towel, even a big stuffed animal. Wendy says she's seen him scaling their fence to grab things off their clothes
line. So, he's just like dragging the stuff in his mouth. >> Yeah, in his little mouth. So, he he's a
very little cat. He's not a big cat. And so, some of the things he's brought home, he's bought him big, really big
jerseys, like brand new jerseys with the tags on them and things that were worth
a lot of money. Um, and he just drags them in between his legs. And he jumps over fences with them. He's quite agile
and determined like our neighbors. He's run away. Like, he's been caught in the act a few times and he's sprinted off
still with them in his mouth. >> You can't get anywhere near him. Yeah, he's fast.
Leo has been bringing stolen items home for more than a year now. What do you do
with all of it? >> Um, well, we for a while we just kind of went around the neighbors and asked if
it was theirs, if things were theirs. And we did get a few hits, get a few people going, "Yeah, that's mine." Um,
but then he went a bit wider. So, I started posting on Facebook about once a month. And we realized he was going to
about 40 different places. And now I have a WhatsApp group. >> Every week, Helen lays out all the
clothes that Leo has brought home, takes a picture, and people respond with their
items circled and say, "That's mine, and that's mine, and that's mine." >> And then you do the drop off.
>> Yeah. Or they come, sometimes people come around and see us cuz often they want to meet him cuz a lot of people
have heard about him, our neighbors that just bought their house. He sold their sock last week and they were thrilled
because the real estate agent that sold them the house said, "Oh, the house comes with the cat burglar. So hopefully
he'll visit you." And they were so thrilled that he turned up. We'll have photos and videos of all the
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Brief Summary

This episode features amusing animal stories, including a speeding duck and a marathon-running goat.

Key points

The Fast Duck of Karnitz. A speeding duck triggers a radar camera, clocking in at 52 km/h.
Joshua the Goat's Marathon Adventure. Joshua the goat escapes and runs a half marathon, finishing with a medal.
A Bear's Unexpected Visit. A black bear strolls into a zoo, causing quite a stir among the staff.
The Cat Burglar. Meet Leo, the cat who steals clothing from neighbors and brings it home.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

That's a fast duck.

Sven's reaction to the duck's speed.

1:38WatchJul 3, 2026

Tension

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