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please see the show notes for this episode on your app or on our website you the Californian city of Stanford lies in
the northwest corner of Santa Clara County just under an hour's drive from San Francisco covering an inland area of
2.8 square miles Stanford is adjacent to Palo Alto one of the principal cities of the affluent and
progressive Silicon Valley which has served as an incubator for many prominent and influential technological
enterprises over the years including Apple Google Facebook and Tesla Stanford is home to the prestigious 8,000 acre
Stanford University a private co-educational and a non-denominational college and research institution many of
the city's residents are students or faculty members who live on or around campus in a range of accommodations
including dormitories coops row houses fraternities sororities single-family homes and condominiums established in
1885 the university was founded by railroad magnate and California senator Leland Stanford and his wife Jane in
memory of their only child Leland Jr who died of typhoid fever at age 15 the land began as a stock farm
with ochre dotted fields and soon developed into one of the largest university campuses in the United States
despite sustaining heavy damage from two separate earthquakes in 1906 since 1989
the university has managed to maintain its original California mission architecture from the late 1800s
characterized by embellished yellow sandstone long low and wide colonnades open arches and two red terracotta tiled
roofs at the heart of the campus is the main quadrangle the university's oldest structure stretching over 17 acres the
main quad is reached via a mile-long palm tree-lined Road and has an inner and outer section both of which features
sprawling lawns courtyards and interconnected buildings housing various departments classrooms and
administration offices regarded as a national center for research Stanford fetches more than 120 research
institutes exploring a range of topics from particle physics to international studies given its proximity to Silicon
Valley and its impressive academic and athletic performance records it is renowned as one of the top universities
of the world many students go on to have illustrious careers in their field of expertise with past alumni including
Nobel laureates Pulitzer Prize winners and Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients 150,000 of visitors are drawn
to the famed grounds annually to explore its many features including eateries shops and gardens as well as a stadium
Golf Course satellite dish and Church hiking trails around the campus outskirts offer views of the rolling
countryside and attract by more than 50,000 visitors a year in the early 1970s just over 11,000 students were
enrolled at Stanford University and the counterculture movement that had started
in the mid 1960s was still a major aspect of college life students fighting for social and
political change would often stage protests sit-ins and form to community action groups through issues such as
racism women's liberation and gay rights Lesley Marie pearl of graduated from Stanford in 1972 with a bachelor's
degree in history by the beginning of the following year the 21 year old was working as a clerk at the North Santa
Clara County Law Library in Palo Alto Leslie hoped to become a lawyer and had recently been accepted into law school
at the University of Pennsylvania though classes had yet to begin at 3 p.m. on Tuesday February 13
Leslie left to work for the day driving off in her 1972 orange Chevrolet Nova her co-workers presumed she was heading
directly to her home in the Los Altos Hills where she lived with her widowed mother Florence
but Leslie never arrived [Music] [Music] Leslee always caught ahead to let her mother know if she was running late but
by nightfall florence still hadn't heard from her overcome with worry she reported her daughter missing as the
search for leslie commenced her friends contemplated her possible whereabouts and suggested that she might have gone
to the wooded foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains in Stanford south the scenic area was popular with hikers and
joggers and as Leslie loved to paint it was thought that she may have gone there
looking for a picturesque a landscape to capture as a gift for her mother at 10 o'clock that night police gaining the
foothills of old Page Mill Road on the southern Cass but the University campus discovered a Leslie Chevrolet abandoned
at the gate to an old quarry just off the interstate 280 exit the car was in operable condition but it's key was
missing Leslie's blue shoes and part of the blue outfit she had been wearing that day were found inside officers
immediately suspected foul play as Florence Perloff had made it clear that her daughter had never done anything
like this before an off-duty Palo Alto policeman had cited at Leslie's car parked at the same
location for hours earlier at approximately 6:00 p.m. he was passing by the area when he observed a Leslie in
her car speaking to a young man with long sandy colored hair who was standing by her window a beige or gray colored
car presumably belonging to the man was parked nearby over the following days an intensive
search of the old quarry was carried out the landscape consisted of tree-lined semi rural roads pockets of dense
woodland long stretches of grassy pastures and steep hillsides the k-9 unit conducted a ground search but was
unable to detect a Leslie scent beyond her vehicle at about 10:15 a.m. on Thursday February 15 a police helicopter
scanning the area caught sight of something down below officers were sent to the location and discovered the body
of a man with the severe chest wound and a sawn-off shotgun in his hand it was initially believed that the men was
linked to Leslie's disappearance though a connection was quickly ruled out when he was identified as 24 year old Palo
Alto resident into former Stanford University student mark Ross bold a coroner concluded market died the day
after Leslie vanished and ruled his death a suicide the discovery of his remains in the area
was a mere coincidence the following day of Friday the 16th authorities on horseback searching
unkempt wooded pastures west of Leslie's vehicle came across her body laying face
down under an oak tree her blue skirt had been pulled up around her waist and her pantyhose had been removed and
stuffed into her mouth it appeared as though Leslie's attacker had intended to rape her but had been unable to carry
out the act when she put up a fire during the struggle he used the multicolored scarf
Leslie was wearing to strangle her to death a coroner determined to Leslie's time of death as late afternoon on
Tuesday February 13 several hours after she was last seen alive there was no sign of a struggle or drag marks along
the path to where her body was found leading investigators to believe she had walked to the area of her own accord or
without sensing any danger officers spent days collecting physical evidence from the crime scene which was sent to
the state crime lab in Sacramento for analysis however DNA profiling was still a decade away and - nothing obtained
could immediately identify a suspect a special task force comprised of 15 deputies from the Senate Clara County
Sheriff's Department was assigned to investigate Leslie's murder full-time and spent the weekend following up on
numerous leads one passerby claimed to have seen a group of Stanford University students near the site of the murder
late on Tuesday afternoon another reported seeing a woman walking with a man up the hill from the abandoned
quarry none of these inquiries generated any results and despite requests the blond-haired man witnessed speaking to
Leslie at the quarry gate by the off-duty police officer never came forward but the ninth day of the
investigation over 1300 work hours had gone into the case but not a single clue or suspect had emerged the task force
was gradually whittled down to just two part-time officers by April 8 1973 the San Francisco Examiner newspaper was
reporting that there was little chance that Leslie's murder would ever be solved
on Sunday March 24 1974 Janet and Taylor was having dinner at a friend's place on
the Stanford University campus when she announced that it was time for her to leave
Janet lived in a cabin in nearby La Honda and wanted to get home to feed her two pet Doberman Pinschers and to let
them out for a run the 21 year old had recently attended Canada College in nearby Redwood City and had taken time
out of her studies to work with the Stanford Research Institute and a local photography studio and had just started
a new job as a teletype nest with a marine weather forecasting service in Palo Alto Janet had strong family ties
to Stanford University her father Charles Chuck Taylor was a star football player for Stanford in 1942 and went on
to become the school's head football coach and athletic director Janet elected to hitchhike home even
though it wasn't a long journey from the campus to her house her friends begged her to reconsider and stay overnight but
the strong-willed independent Janet dismissed their concerns at 7:05 p.m. she was spotted trying to hitch a ride
at the intersection of Mayfield Avenue and Junipero Serra Boulevard south of the university by 7:35 p.m. she was gone
[Music] the next morning a milk delivery driver travelling across a bridge on Sand Hill
Road three miles west from Stanford University caught sight of a young woman's body in a roadside ditch bruise
marks around her neck matched the design on her knitted turtleneck sweater suggesting something had been pressed
hard against it meanwhile Janet Taylor had failed to show up to work that day causing her colleagues to become
increasingly concerned Janet's roommate had also noticed her unexplained absence and called the
friends she'd had dinner with the opening prior news reports were spreading about the discovery of the
woman's body and consumed with a feeling of unease Janet's friends contacted the
Sheriff's Office following this authorities reached out to her parents and asked them to identify the body
Janet's parents confirmed that the victim was their daughter she was mostly clothed except for her raincoat belt and
shoes which were scattered every quarter mile along the roadside from her body there was no evidence of rape though
investigators suspected the crime was sexually motivated they believed the perpetrator had picked two janet up the
previous night under the guise of offering her the lift she desired before attacking and killing her in his vehicle
he then disposed of her body in two possessions along the stretch of road where she was later discovered Janet had
been hitchhiking less than a mile from where Lesley / love's car was discovered abandoned thirteen months prior and -
their bodies were found two miles apart both young women had been partially undressed strangled and two left the
barefoot despite the parallels between the two murders an inspector for San Mateo County Sheriff's Department told
the press no director link had been established stating there are some circumstantial
similarities and some dissimilarities at this point you can just about draw any conclusions you want nevertheless many
members of the public believed the two women shared the same killer [Music] investigators explored several leads in
Janet's case including a witness report of a nervous man seen near the entrance to seize Ville
Lake not far from where Janet's body was found at about 12:15 a.m. on the night of her abduction a witness saw the man
standing next to a white 1964 Pontiac Catalina and stopped to ask if he had any problems with his car when he said
he did not the witness drove away regarded as a slim lead this enquiry went nowhere but the next month of April
police conceded there had been no progress in the investigation with one officer remarking we don't know who
we're looking for we have no motive located in the main quadrangle at the center of Stanford University is the
Memorial Church regarded as the campuses architectural crown jewel in 1903 the university's co-founder Jane Stanford
dedicated the building to the memory of her husband to Leyland she had two objectives for the church to ensure that
students had an opportunity to develop their ethics as well as their studies and to provide a comfort and strength to
the wider community the Stanford's were religious but did not follow a particular denomination and
decreed the church to be open to all Jane Stanford was deeply committed to the church's design stating while my
whole heart is in the university my soul is in that church at her instruction inspirational messages and
religious inscriptions were carved into its walls and enclosed in its frameworks
one quotation located in the church's East transept reads religion is intended as a comfort a solace a necessity to the
soul's welfare and to whichever form of religion furnishes the greatest comfort the greatest solace it is the form which
should be adopted be its name what it will built from buff sandstone and laid out in the shape of a cross the ornate
building has a terracotta tile roof round turrets low arches and a colorful facade
featuring artwork of Jesus Christ surrounded by worshippers the interior is decorated with mosaic
murals stained-glass windows and purple velvet tapestries covering the walls the
church can seat 1200 people and houses five organs rows of wooden pews and a lectern students used the quiet serene
building as a place of reflection and to Catholic services are held there several
times a week shortly after 5:30 a.m. on Sunday October 13 1974 a Stanford University
night watchman crossed the main quad and arrived at the Memorial Church to open its doors for the day he entered the
building via the West Side door and walked through the nave of the church into the rear east and transept to the
left of the altar underneath the stained glass mosaic of a cross he found the body of a young woman when he found his
supervisors to report the discovery he remarked hey we've got a stiff in here Arlis KD Kumar was born on February 22
1955 in the town of Linton North Dakota she was the youngest of three children to parents Marvin and Jean devout
Christians who raised their children to be closely connected with the Presbyterian Church in 1963 the darker
my family relocated to the state capital of Bismarck a small isolated city on the
eastern banks of the Missouri River surrounded by forests and an extensive network of hiking trails Marvin and Jean
ran an automotive company named to darken as standard and helped found the Bismarck Reformed Church later renamed
the Bismarck Community Church where Marvin served as an Oda and sunday-school superintendent Alice
attended Bismarck high school where she was selected for the cheerleading squad three years in a row she was described
by her coach Marge Hill as a bubbly and enthusiastic cheerleader but also was self-contained - girl who was easily
frightened by violence and hostility she was a popular student and often baked cupcakes for her fellow cheerleaders and
the school's basketball team Hollis inherited her parents religious devotion and was deeply involved with her church
community which led to a somewhat sheltered life she had a sense of naivety and was extremely trusting due
to always seeing the best in people on weekends Hollis taught Sunday school and worked
for young life a Christian youth organization dedicated to spreading the word of Jesus Christ to adolescents and
helping teenagers to develop their faith she was also a member of the International nonprofit sports ministry
Fellowship of Christian Athletes or the FCA that was through the FCA that arles met
and fell in love with Bruce Perry a fellow Bismarck High student who shared her religious beliefs and
athletic prowess setting state records in track and field for the one hundred and two hundred and twenty yard Sprint's
Bruce was born and raised in Bismarck as the second of four children to his home
maker mother Donna and two dentist father dr. Duncan Perry he's childhood was one of comfort and he
grew up into a fun-loving popular teenager who was fascinated by anthropology and different cultures in
1973 Alice and Bruce graduated high school based on his athletic performance Bruce was accepted into Stanford
University and enrolled as a pre-med student majoring in human biology Alice remained in Bismarck attending classes
at junior college and working as a receptionist that the dental clinic owned by Bruce's father the young couple
maintained a long-distance relationship and in May of 1974 Bruce returned to Bismarck to ask for Alice's hand in
marriage the documents had mixed feelings about the engagement as they weren't happy about Alice having to move
far away from family and friends to California however when they saw how thrilled to the young couple were they
supported the marriage wholeheartedly the wedding was held on August 17 1974 at the Bismarck Reformed Church
afterwards the 19 year old in newlyweds enjoyed a one-week honeymoon in a rustic
a log cabin owned by the documents and in September Alice embarked on the 1600 mile journey to Stanford with Bruce they
moved into Quillen Hall in Stanford's Escondido Village an apartment block designated to house married couples and
Bruce began his sophomore year it was the first time Hollis had ever been away from home and she missed her
support network while Bruce was busy studying and working part time Alice struggled to adjust to her new life she
was used to living in a small close-knit community and found Stanford too lonely
and isolating she wrote a letter home which read friends are hard to find here many times I've been tempted to go knock
on doors asking if anyone needs a friend but I guess we just have to appreciate each other and trust the Lord for new
friends - Alice accepted a job as a receptionist at a Palo Alto law firm and slowly began
to adapt becoming a member of the Stanford Church and spending time with Bruce whenever their schedules allowed
when her husband was busy Alice took long walks or jobs around the University campus and occasionally visited the
memorial Church to pray often times she would head out alone at night but stopped after Bruce want her or wasn't
safe to do so on the evening of Saturday October 12 1974 Alice busied herself around the apartment while Bruce studied
at around 11:30 p.m. Bruce agreed to accompany Alice to post some letters addressed to her family and
friends in Bismarck as it would afford the couple some time together and he didn't want her going out alone at night
it was Columbus Day a national holiday marking the anniversary of Christopher Columbus's arrival to America and the
University was a hive of activity with rowdy people milling about and music playing loudly from student residences
as Alice and Bruce walked across campus they got into a minor argument over their car tire which had been losing
pressure lately and disagreed over who was responsible for pumping it up by the time they had posted the letters there
was approximately 1150 p.m. still upset by their argument Alice told Bruce she wanted to visit the Memorial
Church alone to pray this was not unusual as they both have visited the church when they needed to reflect and
ask for guidance the building was open until midnight and located only half a mile from the Perry's apartment back at
the apartment Bruce awaited Alice's return but by 12:30 a.m. there was no sign of her he
returned to the church but it was now closed for the night and all the doors were locked
he fruitlessly searched the campus before going home again finding their apartment empty at 3:00 a.m. he reported
Alice missing expressing his concern as he knew she had no friends in town and there was nowhere else she could have
gone he suggested that she might have accidentally fallen asleep inside the church and been locked in by mistake so
some officers were dispatched to check the building as it was still securely locked they were only able to survey its
exterior but noticed - nothing suspicious the situation appeared to be a relatively benign domestic dispute and
to the officers presumed Alice would reappear once she had calmed down approximately two and a half hours later
Stanford University night watchman Stephen Crawford came across Alice's body in the Memorial Church she was on
her back with her arms folded across her chest and her legs spread her head was facing the altar and her body was
partially underneath the first pew with a kneeling pillow nearby she was still wearing her dark brown
jacket though her tan sweater had been pushed up to expose her chest her underwear and blue jeans had been
removed with the pants draped over her lower body and the legs facing towards her head
markings on her neck were consistent with an attempted strangulation enter glasses were missing given they were a
valueless item that was speculated her killer had taken them as a morbid trophy Alice had been sexually assaulted using
two 36 inch long altar candles one of which were still partially inserted inside her body the other had been
placed between her breasts there was no sign of a struggle indicating Arliss had
been caught off guard by her killer her time of death was estimated to have been
around midnight shortly after she entered the church the assault with the candles was believed to have occurred
afterwards the pointed end of an ice pick was still embedded in an open head weren't just above her left ear though
the weapons handle had snapped off as it was not found at the crime scene who was
presumed the killer had taken it away although a small bone in Alice's neck had been broken it was determined that
the icepick injury had caused her death a partial palm print of unknown origin was also found on one of the altar
candles a significant find before the introduction of DNA analysis although it was indistinct
the police arrived at the parries apartment just after dawn Bruce answered the door wearing a blood-covered shirt
he explained he had used his clothing to stop a nosebleed which he was prone to getting during times of high anxiety
he wasn't immediately informed of Alice's murder but was asked to attend the police station to file a missing
person report Bruce was questioned for two hours with investigators presenting him with
different scenarios to see how he would react he was staunchly defensive when it was
suggested that he had lashed out at Alice upon discovering she was having an affair or had fallen pregnant
Bruce voluntarily provided his fingerprints and agreed to undergo a polygraph test all the while repeatedly
asking where's my wife when he passed the polygraph the police finally informed him that Alice had been killed
Sunday Mass at the Memorial Church went ahead at 11 o'clock the following morning the congregation which included
journalists and grieving students were seated on folding chairs placed on the front lawn to preserve the crime scene
inside they were told of Alice's murder and asked to join in a silent prayer according to reports Dean of the
Stanford Chapel Reverend Robert Hamilton Kelly had seen Alice's body and expressed his belief that its treatment
appeared symbolic as though the murder had been part of a satanic ritual he told the congregation that he refused to
let evil triumph and to church services would continue as normal that evening a Catholic priest the Blessed the building
to cleanse it of malevolent forces the FBI constructed a profile of Alice's killer describing him as a loner with a
possible military background aged between 17 and 22 who kept a detailed diary and collected his victims
possessions as trophies when asked what he remembered about the night of Sunday October 13
Bruce Perry couldn't recall anyone watching or following him or Alice when they went their separate ways in the
main quad two people who were in the Memorial Church when Alice Perry entered said she had walked to the front pews on
the left hand side of the altar then knelt down to pray she was still deep in prayer when they left at midnight a
passerby who had been outside reported seeing a Caucasian man with sandy colored hair parted to the left and to
the church around this time he was approximately 25 years old had a medium build and was casually dressed in a
royal blue short-sleeved shirt night watchman Stephen Crawford said he had been running late to lock up the church
arriving at 10 minutes past midnight he entered the rear of the building and couldn't see anyone inside but just in
case he yelled out we're closing for the night the church is being locked if anyone is here you have to leave when
nobody responded he closed and locked the doors due to the extent of Alice's injuries it seemed unlikely that her
assault occurred in the 10-minute window between when the other churchgoers left
and the building was secured that was plausible that when Stephen Crawford called out to see if anyone was still
inside the perpetrator may have already confronted Alice and forced her silence this theory aligned with a statement
given by another witness sometime between 12:15 and 12:30 a.m. and men passing the church thought he heard a
noise coming from inside the building towards the choir loft he paused to listen but heard nothing further
so assumed he'd imagined it and to kept walking when Stephen Crawford returned to the church at around 5:30 a.m. to
open it up again he approached the Westside door and to notice that was partially open the lock appeared to have
been broken open from the inside and he suspected a robbery had taken place after entering cautiously he discovered
Alice's body though no one else was inside investigators were also informed there was a window in one of the church
restrooms that didn't lock and might have provided a covert access point for Alice's killer it was possible they
entered via the unlocked window and - then broke out through the west side door crawford claimed that during his
shift he entered the church at 2:00 a.m. to conduct a routine check at that time
the west side door was locked and he noted nothing of concern inside as Alice was killed shortly after midnight this
assertion didn't fit with the police timeline as Crawford would have encountered her killer or her body if he
entered the church at 2:00 a.m. it was believed that Crawford did not conduct his 2:00 a.m. check but claimed he did
so to cover up his own negligence in failing to carry out his duties due to his ability to access the building
Stephen Crawford was considered a suspect but was ruled out after passing a polygraph test and when it was
determined that his palm print didn't match the one on the altar Kendall found with Alice's body Robert Hamilton Kelly
Dean of the Stanford Chapel raised suspicions as he too had access to the building at all times but he also passed
the polygraph and his palm print wasn't a match in total more than 100 palm prints were lifted from various surfaces
throughout the church but none matched the one on the candle seven people were identified as having visited the
memorial church on the night Alice was killed including ours herself each person of interest was identified and
subsequently cleared except for the sandy haired man in the royal blue shirt the Alice Perry case marked the third
unsolved murder of a young woman on or near Stanford University in less than two years a $10,000 reward resulted in a
few tip offs from the public but none offered any useful leads on Tuesday October 15 a memorial service was held
for Alice inside the Memorial Church where the crime scene was still cordoned off with rope Reverend Hamilton Kelly
told the 180 people in attendance Alice Perry died in this church the victim of violence and perversion we are
in a conflict with evil there is a battle going on but only love can win that battle if it were to turn us from
love to hate from love to bitterness then evil would have triumph the Reverend described how Alice was now
a part of their place of worship stating she fills the church with her glorious presence before detailing her devotion
to Christ and how she and her husband planned to embark on missionary work upon Bruce's graduation from Stanford
from his seat in the front pew Bruce Perry maintained his composure but eventually broke down when music by the
German composer Bach was played on one of the church organs he managed to join in singing the funnel him before the
Reverend told the mourners and not to be overcome with sorrow bitterness or a vengeful spirit upon the conclusion of
the service Bruce hastily left the church through a rear door [Music] three days later Alice's funeral was
held in her hometown at the Bismarck Reformed Church where she and Bruce were Wed just two months earlier the many of
her family friends and community the celebration had been the last time they saw her alive Reverend Don de Kock
officiated reading passages from Alice's personal Bible that she had underlined and marked with the word nice including
the phrases the Lord is my shepherd the Lord is my light and my salvation whom shall I fear Allah says close
friends Peggy who had been a bridesmaid at her wedding told the press Alice was a good friend I loved her a lot she was
serious and quiet but she cared a lot about people and what mattered to her most was her Lord and Bruce I have
watched her grow I've seen how the Lord has worked in her life and I know she is
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the grave marker was stolen this prompted Erie's that the killer was a Bismarck resident who'd followed Alice
to California with the intention of killing her and had then returned to take the grave marker has another morbid
trophy the idea that Alice knew her killer wasn't without merit with some suspecting he was a scorned ex-boyfriend
or an obsessed stalker the day before Alice's murder a colleague witnessed her in the waiting room of their law office
having a serious and intense conversation with a man in his early 20s the co-worker originally thought it was
Alice's husband but later saw Bruce parry at a memorial service and realized that he was not the man from the waiting
room Alice and the unknown man spoke for about 15 minutes and when she returned to work she seemed
to noticeably sad but didn't mention the encounter to anyone her visitor was described as approximately 5 foot 10
inches tall with an athletic build broad shoulders and short curly blond hair this description bore similarities to
the 7th unidentified person in the vicinity of the memorial church when Alice was inside praying the men in the
royal blue shirt Bruce confirmed he had never stopped by at Alice's workplace as she had
specifically asked him not to visit until she had settled into her new job she hadn't mentioned any strange
encounters though Bruce was certain that she would likely keep such an incident to herself
to avoid upsetting him he was unable to identify the man Alice was speaking with
in their book bloody Ivy 13 unsolved campus murder authors Chris and Harry bubonic
speculated that Alice's killer may not have planned to commit murder that night due to the opportunistic nature of her
slaying and the fact that he left behind vital evidence they proposed that the perpetrator might have been a vagrant
who was using the church as a refuge or a vandal who planned to desecrate the holy sanctuary quote perhaps he was
behaving suspiciously and Alice confronted him perhaps he was attracted to her and an argument began in any case
the confrontation had turned physical before Stephen Crawford entered to close the church here in Crawford approach the
attacker subdued Alice either by holding his hand over her mouth or by threatening her with the ice pick and
hid until Crawford left the church Dean of the Stanford Chapel Reverend Robert Hamilton Kelley had since denied making
statements that Alice's murder resembled a satanic ritual explaining that her injuries and the crime scene didn't have
the elements one would typically expect from such a slaughter nevertheless the theory had stuck and at one point
Sheriff lieutenant Robert Barr too told the media that police were exploring all
possibilities including that the murder was carried out for this purpose some reports claimed her body was posed with
her knees bent and ankles drawn together creating the points of a pentagram others said her jeans had been arranged
in a manner that resembled the symbol of the world's largest secret society the Freemasons investigators dismissed to
these assertions by clarifying that Alice's legs were left straight not formed into a diamond shape
like many incorrectly believed in Bismark word spread that during the year Bruce was living at Stanford on his
own Arliss and a friend had traveled to the neighboring town of Mandan North Dakota the pair aimed to convert members
of a local satanic cult to Christianity as part of their work with the young life organization the alleged cult the
processed Church of the final judgment was a religious group associated with Scientology and Satanism and its members
were rumored to carry out rituals in parks and caves throughout Bismarck one local recalled people visiting the town
wearing priests robes with the red collars into necklaces with upside-down crosses detectives ruled out this theory
after it couldn't be confirmed that Alice had ever visited the process church group they publicly denounced the
satanic ritual angle with a spokesperson telling the press it's a typical if there is such a thing sexual
psychopathic slaying it has no cult-like overtones it just happened to occur in a
church Alice Perry's murder bore similarities to the unsolved murders of Leslie Perloff and Janet Taylor as all three
women were targeted in Stanford by a sexual psychopath furthermore witnesses had described seeing a blond-haired man
at both Leslie and Alice's crime scenes shortly before their murders yet there were also notable differences between
the attacks Alice was the only victim in which the killer employed the use of a weapon whereas Leslie and Janet had been
strangled with their own clothing or the perpetrators hands additionally Leslie and Janet were considered a low-risk
attacks as both were confronted in isolated areas with few people about Alice's attack was the opposite it was
incredibly high-risk given the amount of foot traffic around the main quad on the
public holiday including a watchman whose role was to intermittently check the Memorial Church throughout the night
despite this many Stanford residents were unable to shake the feeling that a serial killer was active in the area in
the early hours of August 16 1975 10 months after Alice Perry's murder Utah Highway Patrol officer Bob Hayward was
scouting the Salt Lake City community of Granger when he spotted a distinct cream-colored 1968 Volkswagen Beetle
cruising down a residential street with its lights off officer Haywood recognized the driver and ordered him to
stop but he fled the area at high speed after a short chase the car was brought to a halt and a search of the vehicle
uncovered a ski mask a second mask fashioned from pantyhose a crowbar handcuffs trash bags a coil of rope an
ice pick and other items assumed to be burglary tools the driver 28 year old Ted Bundy was a suspect in a long list
of unsolved homicides of women and young girls that had taken place across several states throughout the preceding
years Bundy one of America's most infamous and prolific sexual sadist serial killers confessed to 30 homicides
though many believe the true number of his victims was higher investigators for the unsolved murders of Leslie pearl of
Janet Taylor and Dallas Perry suspected Bundy may have been responsible for those deaths as he had studied at
Stanford University in the late 60s and there was familiar with the area several
of his crimes were committed on college campuses and he had visited California's
Bay Area on multiple occasions between 1973 and 74 the time of the stanford murders Bundy was interviewed in
relation to Arliss Perry's murder but had an airtight alibi in the form of a credit-card statement proving he was
filling up his Volkswagen had a gas station out of town at the time he was also questioned about Leslie Perloff and
Janet Taylor but was ultimately ruled out as a suspect in those crimes - four years after Alice's murder in 1978
police in her home state of North Dakota received a letter from Attica Correctional Facility in New York
according to the letter the processed Church of the final judgment hired a hit man to kill Arliss Perry after she had
tried to convert them to Christianity the author of the letter was identified as 24-year old David Berkowitz also
known as Son of Sam he was serving six life sentences for the murders of six women in New York between 1976
since 77 on October 23 1979 Berkowitz sent a policeman from North Dakota a book about Satanism in which he had
written Alice Perry hunted stalked and slain followed to California Stanford University two sergeants from the Santa
Clara County Sheriff's Department traveled to New York to interview Berkowitz he denied any involvement with
Alice's murder explaining that the only information he had about the crime came from newspaper articles that had been
sent to him when asked if he had spoken to the person who had murdered Alice Berkowitz became visibly nervous
and avoided answering the question after speaking with the police for 30 minutes
he expressed concerns that other inmates would think he was working as an informant and to terminated the
interview the sergeants concluded Berkowitz had nothing of value to offer their investigation and disregarded his
claims other notorious serial killers were investigated as possible suspects in the Stanford murders including co-ed
killer ed Kemper who was active in the Santa Cruz region 40 miles south of Stanford up until he surrender in April
1973 Kemper's modus operandi involved picking up hitchhiking female college students and taking them to isolated
areas where he would kill them sometimes via strangulation although the date of his arrest ruled him out for
Janet and Alice's murders he was free at the time Leslie was killed two of these
victims eighteen year olds Mary parsh and Anita lacasa killed in May 1972 had accepted a ride from Kemper under the
pretext of being taken to Stanford University Kempe who was infamously forthright and
meticulous when speaking of his crimes to authorities after his capture did not confess to killing Leslie
in 1987 13 years after Alice's murder a controversial book by investigative reporter Maury Terry titled the ultimate
evil put the case back under the spotlight Terry explored multiple theories and criticized investigators but not further
exploring the possible link between Alice and the processed Church he proposed the she had been followed from
Bismarck to California by a church member and he was the men arguing with her at her workplace the day before her
death Terry honed in on Son of Sam killer David Berkowitz as likely knowing pertinent information relating to the
crime according to Terry on the night of her murder Alice may have intentionally
picked a fight with Bruce as it gave her an excuse to request the time alone to pray instead she had planned to meet the
mystery man from her past in the church even though authorities had dismissed rumors that Alice's killing was satanic
in nature Terry remained convinced that had been a ritualistic slain he pinpointed a series
of caves behind Bismarck's University of Mary as a favorite ritual site for the process Church prompting locals to
search the location for evidence due to the influx of visitors the caves had to be filled in which in turn caused the
panic as people assumed it confirmed that a satanic cult was operating nearby the book sent shockwaves throughout the
Bismark community local bookstores quickly sold out of their copies and the library amassed a staggering waitlist
leading it to decrease its usual checkout time from four weeks to two weeks just to keep up with the demand in
the year after its release the number of people on the wait list stayed at about
50 in April of 1989 Maury Terry traveled to Bismarck to host the discussion about
his book the venue had to be changed at the last minute because the 1000 capacity auditorium sold out with Lions
circling around the block Reverend Don de Kock who had officiated Alice's funeral condemned to the book saying it
offered no new information but simply opened old wounds for her grieving family following his wife's murder Bruce Perry
took leave from Stanford University and spent the subsequent months visiting friends interstate who worked him to
return to his studies Bruce later told the Chicago Reader newspaper I had to get in control of what had happened
instead of having the event control me when anyone is traumatized they've got to make that transition away from being
a victim something had happened that was completely out of my control I had to get away from feeling that because
unpredictable uncontrollable things happen on might as well not do anything he returned to Stanford and resumed his
course but was overwhelmed by the sympathy he received he then transferred to Amherst College in Massachusetts and
studied in neuroscience eventually obtaining a degree in medicine in 1984 Bruce undertook a residency in
psychiatry at the prestigious Yale University where he studied the brain chemistry of War veterans with major
depression he accepted a fellowship in child and adolescent psychology at the University
of Chicago and became a renowned psychiatrist specializing in PTSD trauma and empathy publishing two books on the
matter he also remarried and had children in 1992 he reflected on the impact of Alice's murder to the Chicago Reader
quote I couldn't imagine anything worse to experience and aa story I could live through even this and to be happy I felt
older I felt free to be whatever I wanted to be I thought about the external trappings of our culture and
the things we value and don't value I found that many of the things I cared about doing well at were really pretty
empty I put more effort into my relationships because I knew that's what's really enduring
[Music] tests were carried out on the blood-stained shirt Bruce was wearing when police visited
him the morning of Alice's murder he claimed the blood was his own sourced from a nosebleed and two results
confirmed that didn't match Alice's blood type nor did his palm print match the one on the altar candle
in 2004 any lingering suspicions that Bruce was responsible for Alice's death were finally put to rest when he
submitted a DNA sample that proved conclusively he was not her killer in June 2016 an article published in the
New York Post reported that a 64 year old man named Bruce McCracken had come forward claiming he was in Stanford's
Memorial Church on the night Alice Perry was killed McCracken said he was walking past the
church around midnight when he heard strange flute music coming from inside indented to check it out on the lectern
he saw a young skinny white male whom he recognized as a member of Stanford's marching band the male was wearing a
light-colored afro style week and playing a large silver flute a young Caucasian woman was lying naked on the
altar with candles burning on either side of her looking upwards the flutist that didn't look happy to see McCracken
but the woman who looked very similar to Wallace turned her head towards him and
smiled thinking they were playing some kind of game McCracken left the church and didn't give it much thought
he later read about Alice Perry's murder but failed to realize that had occurred
the same night he interrupted the flute player and therefore never thought to report it to the police
decades later in 2011 while speaking to a retired police officer about strange things he had experienced while on the
beat Bruce remembered the incident at the Memorial Church he searched online for a picture of Stanford's marching
band from 1974 eventually finding a picture of the flutist quote I finally saw his face and his eyes those intense
eyes as soon as I saw the picture I knew it was him Bruce informed the Senate Clara County
Sheriff's Department and two detectives tracked down the flutist as he played a concert in Thousand Oaks California
the detectives posed as reporters and arranged to meet the man under the guise of wanting to interview him about his
career the musician mentioned the afro wig he had worn during his days in the Stanford marching band confirming he had
owned the hairpiece described by Bruce McCracken he soon became suspicious and entered the interview saying he would
never return to perform in California again a spokesperson for the Sena Clara Sheriff's Department maintained that the
musician was not being considered a suspect but would really eight he studies should DNA evidence come to life
when confronted by the New York Post the unnamed musician vehemently denied any involvement in Alice's murder quote I've
never been involved in anything criminal in my entire life I've been very lucky that way as forensic testing technology
advanced over the years items recovered from the Alice Perry crime scene were routinely reanalyzed by the County Crime
Lab in 2016 in a much-needed break through they located the DNA profile of an unknown male on the jeans Alice had
been wearing on the night of her death over the next two years police from the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office
truck down and re interviewed everyone who is in the vicinity of Stanford's Memorial Church on the night of Sunday
October 12 1974 obtaining fingerprints and DNA samples from each they ruled them out one by one leaving
just one possible suspect remaining former Stanford night watchman Stephen Blake Crawford was now 72 years old and
in poor health he lived alone in San Jose approximately 25 miles from the University surviving on Social Security
and his leftover retirement funds he had remained a person of interest in the Arliss Perry investigation over the
years but he had passed the polygraph his palm print didn't match the one found on an altar candle used in her
attack and with no further evidence or motive to link him to the crime police had no grounds to make an arrest they
kept in contact with Crawford occasionally re-interviewing him but nothing ever surfaced that implicated
him Crawford had served in the US Air Force before working as a police officer for Stanford University's Department of
Public Safety in 1971 the department underwent a drastic reduction following the appointment of a new police chief
seventy-five percent of staff lost their jobs including Crawford he was forced to
hand in his gun and was reappointed as a Night Watch campus security guard a demotion that he bitterly complained
about he held the job until 1976 before leaving to work security elsewhere members of a square dance group Crawford
belonged to nicknamed him the prevaricator for his habit of lying and exaggerating stories in one instance he
told them his parents died in a car crash when he was young when in reality they died in separate incidents when he
was in his early 20s in 1992 Crawford's ex-wife reported him for forging a fake diploma using a blank
certificate he had stolen from Stanford University a search of his home revealed
he had also stolen up to 300 rare and valuable books from the University Library including leather-bound Latin
texts dating back to the 16th century as well as priceless photos and artifacts from the Department of Anthropology
among the items were a cane belonging to the university's founder Leland Stanford
and a skull when asked why he stole the items Crawford said he simply liked old things and took them in retaliation for
being considered a suspect in the Arliss Perry murder given the books were valued
in the hundreds of thousands of dollars the theft was considered a felony Crawford pleaded guilty to receiving
stolen property and was given a six-month suspended sentence with two years probation he began working as an
insurance adjuster and to lived a quiet somewhat reclusive life having no further run-ins with the law
on the morning of Thursday June 28 2018 detectives arrived at Crawford's ground-floor studio apartment to place
him under arrest and execute a search warrant in the hopes of gathering further evidence to link him to Arliss
Perry's murder when they knocked on the front door Crawford told them to wait a moment while he got dressed after
several minutes the detectives suspect that he was intentionally stalling and to let themselves in using a master key
they had obtained from the building's manager inside they confronted Crawford who was sitting on his bed holding a
handgun the detectives immediately retreated and moments later the sound of a gunshot rang out Crawford was found on
the floor with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his head a search of his apartment uncovered the dust jacket from
a hardback copy of Maury Terry's 1987 book the ultimate evil in a folder with other papers on a computer table a foot
away from the bed was a hastily written suicide note dated two years earlier indicating he had expected this moment
for quite some time the note was difficult to read and made no mention of arles the coincided with a
time period when detectives recommenced interrogating Crawford in relation to her murder
it was suspected that he had targeted Alice to exact revenge against Stanford University following his demotion years
earlier Stephen Crawford's DNA was compared to the DNA of Arliss Perry's killer resulting in a match and the 44 year-old
unsolved case was finally closed that afternoon police hold a press conference to announce the news with Sheriff Laurie
Smith thanking the cold-case detectives for their unrelenting work in solving the decades-old crime and finally
obtaining for Alice's family standing alongside an enlarged photograph of Alice sheriff
Smith told the assembled reporters this is a case that eludes us no longer lead Detective Sergeant Richard Allen eise
kept this picture of Alice Perry with him as a constant reminder that her life into this case had value Alice's sister
Karen said she had no doubt the police would solve the case one day and wasn't surprised to learn that Crawford was the
killer as his story had changed throughout the years and he was a known liar Alice's father Marvin had passed
away three and a half months prior to the break through her mother Jean who was now 88 years old was heartbroken
that her husband had died without ever knowing who had killed their daughter as he had been desperate to find out the
truth taking comfort in her religious beliefs Jean said I know there is someone far greater that will punish
this person I don't have to do that Harless perry's cold case file had long been associated with the unsolved
murders of Leslie Perloff and Janet Taylor due to the similarities between crime scenes many suspected Leslie Janet
and Alice had fallen victim to the same killer though they were never formally linked Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie
Smith initially stated that although investigators did not think Steven Crawford was connected to any other run
souls to local homicides they left the possibility open quote in homicides even cold cases we have a
warehouse of evidence we keep the evidence for life even when there's a conviction forensic evidence collected
from Leslie / loves crime scene was submitted for a analysis and - that - resulted in a key DNA discovery the
evidence was sourced from underneath Leslie's fingernails and was a mismatch for Steven Crawford ruling out the
possibility that Allison - Leslie's murders were carried out by the same perpetrator using similar methods that
helped identify the alleged the Golden State killer in April 2000 18 detectives sent the sample off to parabot Nano labs
a Virginia based medical lab that combines DNA testing with the genealogical databases to map an unknown
suspect to their relatives and ancestors they matched the DNA sample with members
belonging to the getchu family prompting investigators to search through the getchu family tree to identify someone
whose history aligns with the circumstances surrounding Leslie's murder in 1973 John Arthur Gary worked
as a medical technician in Stanford University's campus hospital in the heart transplant unit get rue had a
violent criminal history dating back to 1963 when his family was stationed in Germany for his father's work with the
United States military on the evening of June a 18 year old getchu encountered fifteen-year-old
Margaret Williams the daughter of the army chaplain as she was leaving a church dance on base the following
morning Margaret was found strangled and raped in a field behind the church getcher was
identified as a suspect immediately and his arrest soon followed he admitted to the crime in court stating I raped her
but it did not occur to me that I could have killed her I just wanted to knock her out he was
convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison yet because he was a foreigner and considered a juvenile under German
law the court said that he could be released on parole after serving two years and returned to America by 1972
Gertrude was living and working in Palo Alto as a security guard for California plant protection services his criminal
past was a secret to those around him in 1975 two years after Leslie Perloff was
murdered get rude targeted a 17 year old member of the scouts explorer troop in Palo Alto
get you became involved in the group as a scout leader taking the children to dances and other events while acting as
their guardian he had befriended he's the latest victim over a six-month period and on the night of January 19
arrived at her home while their parents were not there after talking to her for about two hours
getcher who pushed her under the couch and began assaulting her when she threatened to cry out for help he put
his hand around her neck and squeezed threatening don't do that I have my hand at your throat and I could hurt you get
you pleaded guilty to statutory rape and was sentenced to six months jail five of
which were suspended he was ordered to pay a $200 fine and served his remaining 30 days in jail on weekends junket Roos
DNA was obtained from items he discarded and it was compared to evidence recovered from the Leslie Perla of crime
scene not only was there a match the subsequent DNA report stated the probability that a random unrelated
individual could be included as a possible contributor to this deduced profile was approximately one in 65
septillion this figure would be the number 65 followed by 24 zeroes on November 20 2018 the now 74 year-old
grandfather carpenter and Scout leader was placed under arrest at his home in Hayward
approximately 21 miles from Stanford and charged with the first-degree murder of
Leslie pearl of over the past 45 years cold-case detectives had remained in touch with the Perloff family updating
them on their efforts to find who has Lee's killer as the eldest of three children
Leslie was regarded as her siblings protector she had once shared a bedroom with her sister Diane and the pair
traded clothes secrets into laughter when she left for Stanford Diane had cried Leslie's brother Craig told the
media I still miss Leslie she was a brilliant kind and a loving person Leslie's mother
Florence had died four years earlier and never sought grief counseling as she felt the hole in her heart could never
heal in November 2018 Diane received a call from a detective Sergeant informing her we got him she
attended get Roos bail hearing that same month and pleaded to the court that he'd
be denied bail Diane looked directly at getchu who steadfastly averted his gaze and told him the scarf tied around to
Leslie's neck that day was mine Diane went on to explain how she could no longer walk alone in the woods wear a
scarf or let anyone touch her neck quote I want you to know that murder does not
just affect the deceased it changes many lives it takes many lives and impacts a
family forever and while justice doesn't heal all wounds it is the least we can do the
presiding judge agreed with Dianne and refused to get Rou bail instead ordering that he be hold in the
Santa Clara County Jail to await trial while get Roo was in custody clothing belonging to Janet Taylor was also
resubmitted for a more thorough forensic examination and two semen staining was discovered within its worn seam in the
crotch of the green corduroy pants she was wearing at the time of her death the DNA profile obtained from the
staining was found to have a 1 in 30 4,800 chance of coming from anyone but John katroo on May 16 2009 teen getchu
was also charged with the Janet Taylor's murder in a statement Janet's family said Janet lived a life with enthusiasm
and courage as a spunky fun-loving youngest of three children she added much laughter and joy to our family she
loved animals and cherished her friends we have missed being able to have her in
our lives Janet's future was bright that would have been wonderful to see what she
would have done we can't ever know all that we missed but whatever she pursued Janet would
have served others with passion and kindness we're grateful today for the diligent meticulous work of the law
enforcement officers whose efforts have resulted in today's announcement they've
done this difficult work with integrity and excellence and with compassion for our family Gertrude has pleaded not
guilty to all charges and is currently awaiting trial he will be held to penalties in effect at the time of the
murders with the maximum sentence for homicide in the early 70s being seven years to life given his age in the
amount of time that has elapsed since the crimes court officials are prioritizing his cases he will first
stand trial for Leslie purlins murder in September 2020 John katroo is also being
investigated as a suspect in other run solved crimes Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith
expects that the modern DNA techniques used to capture Steven Crawford and John katroo will help solve the 100-plus cold
cases in the county dating back to 1946 quote because we have this technology we
want to hit all of these cases while the suspects are still alive shortly after Arliss was murdered Bruce Perry spoke of
his late wife to the Chicago Reader quote I had long periods of pain and sadness and of thinking how unfair it
seemed I tried to think about what it was that would make a human being do this there was a lot of anger initially
but I didn't know where to direct it since I didn't know what exactly had happened you sort of had to make
something up to get angry at then I just quit doing that it was getting in the way of me being able to move on when I
accepted the fact that death was a part of life it did not matter that much anymore what the person who killed her
looked like or was like Bruce Perry is currently a senior fellow of the child trauma Academy in Houston Texas and an
adjunct professor in psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Chicago's Feinberg School of Medicine he has
worked as a consultant with the FBI on many high-profile cases involving traumatized children and has appeared on
The Oprah Winfrey Show speaking about how adverse early experiences can lead to physical and mental challenges later
in life he believes his ordeal helps him identify and empathize with these patients
Arlis Perry was laid to rest at the sunset Memorial Gardens in her hometown of Bismarck on the day of her funeral
Reverend Don de Kock told the gathering of 300 mourners somebody's going to say that Alice didn't have a chance to learn
what life is all about on the contrary Alice knew exactly what life is all about that it is full of joy
and full of sorrow of victory and trials and - that man is a mere breath he's dazed like a passing shadow
[Music] you

Case 137: Arlis Perry

On the evening of Saturday, October 12 1974, Arlis Perry busied herself around the apartment while Bruce Perry studied.

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Brief Summary

The episode details the unsolved murders of Leslie Perloff, Janet Taylor, and Arliss Perry, culminating in the identification of Arliss's killer, Stephen Crawford.

Key points

Leslie's Mysterious Disappearance. Leslie Perloff vanishes after leaving for work, sparking a frantic search.
Discovery of a Body. A watchman finds a young woman's body in the church, raising alarms.
Alice's Struggles at Stanford. Alice found it hard to adjust to life at Stanford, feeling lonely and isolated.
The Discovery of Alice's Body. Alice's body was found in the Memorial Church, leading to a police investigation.
Memorial Service for Alice. A memorial service was held where the congregation was informed of Alice's murder.
Bruce Perry's Journey After Trauma. Bruce Perry copes with the aftermath of Alice's murder, ultimately finding purpose in his career.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

Leslie never arrived.

The moment Leslie's absence is noted by her co-workers.

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Tension

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