Spookyville /// Part 2 /// 531 | Forensic Files

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person's case in dallas county missouri 33-year-old cassidy rainwater is missing
she went to high school in harrisonville her case is drawing a lot of attention on social media due to the circumstances
investigative reporter angie roccono has been tracking the developments and joins
us from the newsroom there is so much mystery and intrigue in this case that has fueled social media
speculation two men have been charged with kidnapping inflicting injury and terrorizing that's james phelps and
timothy norton the sheriff posted on friday more charges are expected in the coming days we are watching for that the
sheriff previously released a statement saying due to the extreme nature of the crime he's not providing details here's
what we do know pictures have been found of cassidy partially nude and in a cage
the fbi has been involved cassie rainwater is still missing her trail led to this rural property owned by suspect
james phelps investigators have been searching the grounds while the men are in jail the springfield bomb squad was
called in and a fire broke out last week the house burned to the ground speculation is there was a trip wire and
that's why the bomb squad was called in this case is all over social media videos are being made on tick tock
redick has threads bloggers are speculating about cannibalism the sheriff blasted all of the attention and
speculation on this case saying much of it is not true although he used a more colorful word he reminded everyone
investigations take time in the real world and this isn't a tv series or movie cassidy rainwater's own mother
went missing back in 2007 her remains were eventually found scattered in a field by a farmer according to the
associated press we will keep you posted on charges and developments in cassidy rainwater's case reporting from the
newsroom angie roccono kctv 5 news when we left off yesterday captain we were about to go through the rumors
coming out in this case but before we get to those rumors a couple of updates that i was able to confirm in regards to
some questions we had about the case this is in regards to the tip that came in we were wondering how that situation
all came about there's a little bit of information on that and regarding the photos that were found on
phelps's phone so a couple quick statements that i found in september the fbi's kansas city
office so it was the kansas city fbi office that received an anonymous tip from a
person who says they shared photos including one of what appeared to be rainwater's partially nude body inside a
cage so it doesn't completely clean that up for us but again this story is not necessarily breaking news but it's still
very new and we're still waiting for a lot of information to come out so now that we have some confirmation as to
how that tip came about wanted to make sure we included it here also in regards to his phone there's a statement in an
article that now says authorities arrested james phelps on september 16th after seizing
his cell phone and discovering seven photos of partially nude cassidy rainwater being kept inside a cage
according to court records so they seized his phone before they arrested him finding those photos right
now again some of the rumors in this case include the finding of meat hooks on the
property on the phelps property by law enforcement officials acts of cannibalism additional victims possibly
the remains of up to 12 or 13 people found on the property additional suspects caged victims
and transporting kidnapped victims or remains across state lines and that these two
may even be responsible for the missing springfield 3 may have been involved or responsible for the springfield 3 case
we'll address each one of these as we go along here but just in case someone is not familiar the short wiki version of
the case the springfield 3 case details are that the springfield 3 refers to an unsolved missing persons case that began
on june 7th 1992 when friends suzanne streeter and stacy mccall and streeter's mother cheryl levitt
all went missing from levitt's home in springfield missouri all of their personal belongings
including vehicles and purses were left behind there was no sign of a struggle except
for a broken porch-like globe there was also a message on the answering machine that police believe
might have provided leads in the disappearances and as you remember captain that was inadvertently
erased so the police were only able to be told what the message said second hand now long time listeners know that
us two your boys the garage guys we covered the springfield three case back in april of 2017.
wow that's starting to feel like a long time ago this would be episodes 97 and 98 should
anyone want to go back deep into the catalog and listen to those fascinating episodes in those
episodes we reviewed a lot of suspects in the springfield 3 case but of course not james phelps and
timothy norton because these two who it looks to me are obviously guilty of something
and unfortunately it appears to be that the something or some things that they are guilty of are some pretty heinous
and horrific acts but phelps and norton were unknowns back in april of 2017 unknowns to us and everyone else now we
are not saying these guys are good for the springfield three case but let's pretend for a second that they are
well they are [ __ ] bags that's what makes these rumors beyond terrifying because if they are in any way
responsible for the kidnappings of three persons from springfield in 1992 well cassie rainwater does not go
missing until july of this year 2021 some 29 years later and no one in their right mind i believe would think for a
second that these two kidnapped three people and did god knows what to them in 1992
and then just took a long break and decided in july of 2021 29 years later oh i'd like to resume my dirty
deeds and pick up where i left off right thunder cheap dunder cheap well also this property kind of reminds you of
todd kohlhepp and also the murder that took place in northern ohio around findlay ohio
a guy that had a barn with the freezer well unfortunately these kind of acts and what some of these individuals you
know serial killers and serial abductors and rapists want to do requires a certain amount of privacy
requires a certain amount of seclusion so you can do these things and carry out these horrible acts and so these types
will they desire a property similar to this and that's why i think to me the hair stands up on the back of my
neck when i hear oh well phelps was renting this property and he has other properties what what does this creep
need other properties for or what is he doing with multiple properties or this one in
particular now a couple more things on the timeline here captain on october 4th 2021 from the news report a home near
lebanon missouri connected to phelps was burned to the ground we had mentioned that on yesterday's show the dallas
county sheriff's office says phelps 58 was renting the home a dallas county deputy had alerted a firefighter
after discovering a trip wire near the home and then a call went out to bring in the springfield bomb squad
so hours later the bomb squad detonated this suspicious device whatever it was now rachel nicholson who moved to
lebanon recently says she saw the home go up in flames from a distance quote all of a sudden the house collapsed and
the flames got bigger and we could feel the heat said nicholson everything was on fire and we sat there and watched it
collapse i called 9-1-1 because i was worried about it catching the woods on fire and like going to the other houses
end quote the missouri state fire marshal's office is investigating the fire cause
which caused a total loss to the home now you know me captain i'm not one to believe or even want to believe rumors
but i do think that the local scuttlebutt can have some meaning in an unsolved case or offer some possible
lead but one thing that our talks with john douglas told us is that normal people
don't just wake up one day and kidnap and kill there are things crimes behaviors and
such in their background that lead up to those types of extreme acts but also captain what makes me pause
and wonder if there could be some truth to some of these many rumors is normal people also don't just wake up
one day and arm their properties with trip wires right that once activated will burn the whole damn place to the
ground right but back to what you were saying about these local rumors a lot of these cases that go unsolved
take for example the mar murray case you get this rumor that these three individuals worked at loon mountain and
didn't show up to work the day mara went missing and and when you're investigating a case
like that you don't know if there's much weight or validity or anything backing up these local rumors
but i don't like to dismiss those because normally where there's smoke there's fire and now we have a situation
in that case where there they discovered uh skeleton remains and hair remains that was buried in the loon
mountains and now we're just waiting for confirmation on on who that individual is verbatim from
one report in a springfield bomb squad report investigators say that they found an
incendiary device during a fire at the home at the center of this kidnapping case
in the report it claims investigators found the explosive device in a mortar tube with a balloon cover it featured
tripwires thankfully no firefighter was injured in the battle of this fire according to the incident report
the incident is labeled as second-degree arson i'm guessing that there's probably some
additional investigation that needs to be done to confirm if they want to move forward
with second-degree arson or elevate that charge to something else the report also
says around forty thousand dollars was lost from the fire uh forty thousand dollars in damages i guess from the fire
and the classification is undetermined and criminal currently as it sits on october 5th phelps and norton both
appeared before a dallas county judge via a webcam both represented by different public
offenders during this hearing prosecutors asked for 45 days until the preliminary hearing
due to the number of witnesses needed the state asked for 45 days but the defense objected
based on state supreme court requirements that allows for only a 30-day period this is because they're
being charged they're being held in the jail they can't leave until they have this preliminary hearing and at their
defense they're going to point out look if these guys aren't guilty you can't keep them
here forever right dallas county prosecutor jonathan barker said that if he still isn't ready to proceed after 30
days that he will file a motion for more time a judge set a preliminary hearing for november 5th
starting at 9 30 a.m so convenient or not convenient this fire goes down right before they're about to have their first
encounter with the judge via webcam after that goes down the investigators they return to the
scene of the fire during daylight hours to analyze the area trying to figure out
how the fire started to begin with unfortunately having the task of looking for more tripwires right to make sure
that they themselves are not in danger while being present on this property a woman who lives near the home
she wanted her to conceal her identity for her own protection of course says quote if these people have committed
such horrible crimes as they are accused i hope the legal system prosecutes them
to the fullest extent i am very upset by it captain let's get into the rumors and i want to start off with
just the location itself wendyville spookyville some call it now depending on where you are in the great city of
springfield missouri and the small unincorporated town of windyville we're talking about an hour to
an hour and 20 minutes drive time from springfield to wendyville so to me when one of the rumors says that these guys
might be or may have been involved in the springfield 3 case i mean it does sound like a stretch
a bit but keep in mind the proximity and i'm happy that the good folks of this area refuse to just forget about
three missing women no matter how old the case is yeah it's it's one of the most popular true crime cases of all
time you can't just let it go correct and i think that it's not just the proximity that some think that these
could be these guys could be involved but the key thing here is the van there was a van that was found on the property
so there's overhead photographs that were taken of this property that was burnt down basically and
and people saw this van well there was rumors to believe that that's how the springfield 3 were abducted was
a guy using a van but i also think you put these two individuals in a time frame they're old enough that they could
have been involved and also there being two of them right it would make sense or
at least it was considered at the time in our episodes we we referenced several suspects some of them were groups of
people or more than one individual and anytime you have a case where you have multiple victims especially trying to
corral them move them from place to place that can be very difficult and it gets a little easier the more
perpetrators that you have involved unfortunately so with this speculation here it's not just the proximity and as you
pointed out these guys are old enough to have been involved in something heinous
back in 1992 but the major connection is the van we have a van in the springfield three
case and now we have one being found on their property the van found on the phelps and norton property that's that's
the big big link here in my opinion and some people are saying online that this resembles the van that police were
looking for back in the summer of 1992. here is the infamous van tip received by
police in 1992 in regards to the missing three women from springfield and this is taken from our old episode
another tip this one came in about nine or ten days after the disappearance but around 6 30 a.m
june 7 1992 this would be just hours after the last time the three women were last seen a
woman was sitting on her front porch she says that she saw a green dodge van or a
greenish dodge van and she believed that the van had been from the mid-1960s to the early 1970s she also said that the
van was out of place not a vehicle owned by any of the neighbors on the block furthermore she noticed a young woman in
the driver's seat that appeared to be very distressed the witness claimed hearing an unidentified male voice
speaking to the driver saying back out slowly and don't do anything stupid the delay for her reporting this was just
simply she was unaware that anything was going on when she finally heard about the
missing women that's when the witness made the call and told authorities the woman driver she saw was definitely
suzanne streeter one of the springfield three considering this testimony to be credible
local police at the time decided to buy the same mottled van painted the color the witness believed
it to be and parked it out front near the police station with a phone number to contact
the police for any tips and information so they want to make sure that nobody misconstrues the information that
they're putting out there this is the type of van that we're looking for we have a we're not just going to draw it
for you we're not just going to put it out on a poster for you this is a physical representation of the van that
we believe that we're looking for in this case have you seen it do you have any information let us know it's really
smart idea because it's similar to like when you buy a jeep all of a sudden you start seeing those jeeps everywhere and
even that color like maybe you're like well i'm going to buy that charcoal jeep i don't ever see a charcoal jeep and
next thing you know that's all you see so i think it's a very smart tactic by law enforcement with this move from the
springfield police back in 1992 traction in the case started picking up again this when a paperboy doing his
deliveries described seeing this similar type of van but he says the one he saw was brown and states that he saw the van
when it was dark outside so could not be certain of the actual color of the van over time more tips came in and the
color of the van changed several times so this really great lead ends up turning into
confusion a bit in the springfield case but again as said that tip was really at
the center of the springfield 3 investigation so it's no wonder that it has stayed in the
minds of locals and in fact when we were researching that case and retelling the
story and talking about the case here in the garage it's one of those weird stories that you almost can visualize
what that witness says that she was seeing early that one morning which again would
have just been hours it's speculation but it's speculation coming from law enforcement just hours after the
believed time that they were removed from the home well on all law enforcement can go off as eyewitnesses
of the past and and eyewitnesses of an event that took place so long ago it's not like they can test this van in some
way to let them know that it's the same van that was used and the disappearance of the springfield 3. the
thing with the photos that i saw captain it looks to me like the van may have been inoperable
before the fire right that nobody was using the van it actually looks to me like somebody had taken the tires off of
this thing but if it's inoperable then one has to wonder don't you get curious and go well why are you holding on to
this thing why are you so reluctant to let it go is there something that you're trying to
hide now again i can't tell because i'm just looking at photos and we don't have
any of the police or fire members to tell us what we are seeing but it does not look to me and i hope so
i hope this is correct it does not look to me that the van was destroyed or ruined in the fire itself that the fire
appears to me to have primarily damaged and literally destroyed the cabin it's i mean it was burnt to
the ground you can see a wood-burning stove that was once probably in the center of that cabin
you can see the wood burning stove metal and still standing there and the the debris the burnt remains of what was
the cabin surrounding it if this van has carpet lining maybe you can take the carpet and test it for dna and as maybe
as far-fetched as this idea or this rumor possibly is this is not the craziest of the rumors
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let's get on to some of the rumors here captain and look there's gonna be some people that want to throw tomatoes at me
and you for jumping in on the rumors but uh or just being handsome we have a garage show to
run here and this is a case that we can't take our eyes off of and so we're going to talk about it now the first of
the rumors that i want to address is the finding of meat hooks on the property by
law enforcement officials obviously until the police start telling us the things that they saw witnessed or
found at the property in regards to this we're just going to be spinning our tires right we don't know if they found
meat hooks now the online speculation has gone as far or the rumors have gone as far to say that police found or
someone saw body parts hanging from these meat hooks that could be visible through either through one of
the windows or just outside of the cabin itself it's a little foggy on the actual details of that i
didn't spend a lot of time sifting through the details or the different stories because i mean if that was true
there's no charges to justify what somebody claims they saw right and again i understand the reason for the
speculation the theories and the rumors because of the sheriff's statements and the sheriff's department's statements it
sounds to me like we're going to have additional charges there is some evidence that is unclear there are
things that they found at the scene on the property that have not been told to the public so they're they're
speculating at this point now to me some of these rumors sound very texas chainsaw massacre-ish you know
something that you would see in a on the big screen and not even in that great of
a horror film uh to begin with meat hooks with parts hanging from them i don't know well
that kind of goes along with some of the claims of cannibalism this is all over the map as far as the
rumors go of cannibalism one that they that phelps is participating in this that that's part of the reason why he's
killing people uh that he has victims to begin with that norton might be involved in this
cannibalism as well consuming human remains that yeah i think people know what chemical is that one well nobody i mean
there's there's a lot of these different rumors out here so i'm kind of sifting through them one at a time here make
sure they're clear one that they may have served some human remains to another individual or individuals that
unknowingly consume them one of the rumors is that they found human meat being stored on the property
other rumor is that he was consumed he was in the act of consuming that phelps was in the act of consuming human
remains when police arrived on on one or if not their first visit again these are all things that sound like
they're not just out of a movie but out of a really bad movie at that yeah but meat hooks isn't that far of a stretch i
mean a lot of people use things like that in hunting yeah they they would hang the deer by the
meat hooks that's right they sell meat hooks for other purposes yeah than committing these horrible crimes and as
we stated earlier that's interesting that you bring that back into the fold here captain because
we do know that one of these individuals that was living on the property has been
charged with some type of game warden misdemeanor charges at some point in their life so this these could
be active outdoors men i i do want to give our promo code for the whopper this portion of the show is
sponsored by the whopper the other rumors are that there are additional victims and specifically it's been
stated that possibly the remains of up to 12 or 13 people have been found on the property i think that
this rumor comes from speculation that the police well the sheriff's department they spent
a lot of time at the scene well i think the first thing that you do you look you're still looking for cassidy right
right so you're gonna bring in scent dogs but on top of that worse you know worst case scenario you're
looking for a body so you bring in cadaver dogs now cadaver dogs could hit on different parts of the property
and that would lead them to have digs to look for her and in that process they could have
found other remains possibly the the other thing that i wonder too that i think fuels the fire a little bit again
that the amount of time that they've spent on this property that doesn't mean that they found a bunch of stuff it
could mean as you're pointing out here captain simply that what they're looking for they have not found yet and they're
refusing to leave that property until they either find it or know that it's not there
and that item could be as you said cassidy rainwater's remains but there's no reports from law
enforcement that they discovered her body yet or anybody else's or anybody else's for that matter which again makes
me wonder who they're connected to as far as these the the sex offenders that are connected
to the property and who are their connections and is it possible like you said here here could be a situation
where phelps is renting this property he kidnaps the person then they they caged the individual and then because
timothy is a truck driver that he then transports the victim somewhere yeah that is one of the
thoughts and one of the other rumors here as far as additional suspects going as far as the
registered sex offenders go it could be something as simple as years ago a registered sex offender
rented that same property that has nothing to do with phelps or norton at all that they don't even know that
individual what we do have that kind of clarifies or clears up some of the additional suspects statement is we have
a statement from sheriff rice who says look everybody that we believe to be involved in the cassidy
rainwater disappearance case is currently in jail without trying to piece his words together
for him i've got to believe what he's saying there is we believe these two individuals are responsible we have
evidence that shows that they are solely responsible the two of them right and we
have them in custody right now the courts are going to shake this thing out and figure out what exactly
happened here don't be don't be running wild with your thoughts and your theories with additional suspects no
matter what you found or what report you read because we have two individuals that are locked up right now no i
understand that but what we do know and what i'm saying about the sex trafficking we capture this individual
we are going to then sell her to another individual but that individual is not known yet and that's possibly where law
enforcement gets their tip because we we know that these images of cassidy were shared online
why the heck would you share these online you can sift through all the reports and at the very minimum we know
that at least one of these images made their way online somehow some way right right and what's the purpose of that
you're exactly right here captain if you got concerns about human trafficking or
selling an individual for any reason at all it seems like the dark web would be a
place or a marketplace to do such activity right how did a photograph like this make it onto the internet
and if phelps and norton were the only two that knew about this then one of them would have had to put the photo
online at some point right now in relation to the the caged victims and transporting
kidnap victims or remains across state lines there's been some speculation in regards to the cannibalism that maybe
they were even selling human meat somewhere somehow again seems very friday the 13th
texas chainsaw massacre-ish to me but what i think is more interesting when we talk about state lines right we have
timothy norton he drives a truck he's crossing state lines all the time i'm more concerned with the idea and the
probability of him procuring a victim and transporting them back to this cabin this secluded cabin with creep number
one and creep number two sitting around the old wood burning stove right that seems like something that would be
far more likely and when we talk about state lines and i guess if you're wanting to hide evidence he has the
ability that he has reason to be out on the road constantly he could be he could be dropping evidence
all along the way i guess from what i've found is that his truck is on this property and that there was
some type of his trailer it's been reported was one of these refrigerated trailers so one of the
rumors is that human remains or of some sort were found in this trailer again this is speculation
but uh certainly adds to the just the horrific thoughts that you can put into this case
and the possibilities in this case but yeah but it's not out of the realm of possibilities we see these individuals
all the time they're a suspect in one case and that leads to the discovery of several other
victims well and that's interesting captain because it it makes me think of a few different things here right
um first is something we've talked about plenty of times before linkage blindness
right for years john douglas and his team were trying to point out to sheriff departments and police departments
across this country to not be blinded to the possibility of linking these unsolved homicide cases
together right here you have what we've seen in some cases which is the reverse of that where the
public sees a case and then starts tacking on every crime unsolved murder kidnapping that they can
think of to this being almost a suspect zero type of situation we've seen that with the
zodiac right his crimes he committed them using different murder weapons in different locales so it's easy to just
kind of tack on a bunch of unsolved homicides that it took place in california or surrounding areas at
around that same time and say all right well the zodiac remember when he told us
it was zodiac score 35 and the san francisco pd score was zero right well here's your other
your other homicides that get us to that 35 number your boy cold case cameron he's told us that ed
edwards killed every person you could ever think of he's not my boy i know i know
i i joke i joke a funny theory cold case cameron he's got some interesting theories on ed edwards maybe
it's like shooting fish in a barrel at some point if you just throw enough of them out there you're going to be right
on one or two of them yeah the this reminds me also of uh bruce macarthur from canada the canadian serial killer
he was putting them putting the victims remains in planters planters right he was just burying them in the planters
right because we had the jimmy rice case which that monster that killed that boy
he he put he cemented or concrete i don't know that there is a difference between the two i'm a dumb guy that
hangs out in a garage all day i don't know the difference between cement or concrete and we sniff glue
we but he huff and paint so yeah i can't macarthur was just burying the the remains in these large planters from
my understanding yeah and the bruce mcarthur it's toronto's missing men part one and two is episodes 191 and
192. on your garage radio dial but i also think that maybe some of these rumors are coming from
the severity of i don't even know if severity is the right word but it's a horrifying
image to see yeah the pictures from the fire and whatnot yeah i think when you see
those pictures of cassidy in the cage where law enforcement sees those pictures it makes you speculate on what these
animals and monsters are capable of doing because you know they're capable of this
horrendous crime well and it makes sense too when you reference a woman being held captive in a cage
the thoughts that go through everybody's minds out there in listener land and in
parts unknown it's your imagination runs wild but it runs wild because we've been trained to think
that way we've been told to think that way and rightfully so when we spoke with john douglas what did he tell us that
the number one thing that he found to be true in most of the cases of these serial killers especially
especially the sexually motivated predators was that ideally this is their goal they would rather have a sex slave or a
captive victim that they can victimize again and again right they're only serial killers because at some point
they take it too far or they're forced to kill their victim because they don't have a victim captive or do not have the
ability to do so in fact you talk to a lot of old retired fbi agents that have worked serial cases and they'll
reference an old i believe it's an english novel the collector it's a story about a psychotic
man who abducts a young woman and holds her captive and they reference this because they believe that that is the
the general fantasy that is shared by most of these types so i think that it's it's fair for all of us
to think this way and to speculate and to to want to know the truth behind these rumors
whether they are true or not and i think we're going to find out a lot more about
this hopefully we find out more about this stuff when this court date rolls around next
month now we have ky3 news who we are being told from ky3 news that their team of reporters has been in
constant contact with the dallas county sheriff's office specifically with the sheriff himself scott rice however no
further details are being released pending those forensic results that they're waiting on
they being the reporters are basically on standby waiting for more or if anything new pops up they
will be on it so right we will be hearing something should anything come out or come of
any of this information now we should give the good sheriff his due and voice his opinions of the rumors swirling
around we know some of his thoughts because in a facebook post sheriff rice addressed rumors in the investigation
into the disappearance of cassidy rainwater he wrote that he's upset with social
media and bloggers thinking that they know what is happening and says quote there is a lot of misinformation
circulating in the case an online article from officer.com i took some little pieces from this
article here they are one says three weeks into a massive criminal investigation that's drawn viral
attention the southwest missouri sheriff leading the probe went on a rant on his
department's facebook page dallas county sheriff scott rice took aim at fake news
social media and people who he said are too impatient and entitled to wait for the justice system to work quote there
is a lot of misinformation and rumors regarding the cassidy rainwater case being circulated across social media and
various news platforms rice wrote while i understand the impatience and curiosity of the people i'm going to
give you a piece of advice it's not a good idea to listen to a crime reporter slash blogger or tick
tock view or tick tock videos that is sitting in their apartment or their mommy and daddy's basement eating
great value cheese puffs and drinking box wine well well excuse me sir we're in a garage with grand intentions of
being a social media superstar and and hold on and we have no intentions of being any kind of superstar well i don't
think he's talking to us specifically maybe or maybe he was he criticized the quote crap posted on social media about
the case he dropped the first tidbits of news that have been released within days
uh that was the statement that we kind of reviewed earlier captain where he says
the quote i can tell you we have all parties involved with cassidy rainwater's case in jail end quote and
he did say quote we expect additional charges to be filed in the coming days again
it's it's statements like that though that i think fuel the fire a little bit for some of these rumors i'm not
faulting the sheriff i'm not even faulting anybody else out there in that live nearby or or live in
california florida new york city or what have you for speculating on this case i
personally think that it's somewhat healthy to to do so it's a mystery we're concerned that wow yeah and we're
trying to figure out what exactly happened so well at the end of the day were were humans
and there was a human that was in these pictures in a cage cassidy was a real person we want to
know what happened and we don't have answers to that so yeah we're going to speculate but we got
to remember what john douglas told us remember when he said true crime garage you guys are the best
to ever do it number one true crime podcast of all time i'm sure he appreciates you making
up statements for him but um in regards to this here captain it's on record i i understand the rumors that are coming
out here he's saying that 99.99 of what has been posted on social media is crap his statement about
we will have or will be seeking further charges is interesting but again does not
necessarily mean that they found anything that they've not told us about because
those those additional charges may simply come from a couple of possibilities one the arson
itself right they've already i don't know that they've 100 declared that it was absolutely arson or they
just are suspicious of it so far right from my understanding what is what the charge would be on that is
involuntary second-degree arson charges well that very easily could elevate itself to
first-degree involuntary or premeditated arson so in relation to the arson we could see additional charges also in the
disappearance case of cassidy rainwater herself we could see additional charges again right now they're only being
charged with kidnapping that could be elevated to unfortunately homicide or additional charges
so it's likely and the sheriff is it's likely that we will see additional charges i think that and what i hope is
that they didn't stay on that property for as long as they did because they couldn't find anything else right and
again that that goes back to my thoughts i i don't necessarily think that them being there so long indicates that they
were finding things that were useful to their case i'm worried that they weren't finding
what they thought they would find there when they arrived well maybe the spookiest thing about this case
is not only did cassidy go missing but her mother went missing as well yeah so cassidy rainwater's mother tracy wassup
went missing in 2007. based on previous kolr-10 reporting her mother tracy her remains were found
scattered in a field near lebanon a year later so went missing in 2007 her remains are found scattered in this
field that's not incredibly far from windyville it's not you know real close to this property
but it's in the same part of the state as where these two individuals live the this article that i found goes on to
say here captain quote it was unusual some of the statements made by people that will have to go on with the new
evidence we have here and see where it leads us and this is what the lock lead county sheriff richard wrinkle is
telling the news and this was his statement to the news after the remains themselves were found now
for my understanding tracy's disappearance was reported as suspicious but no cause of death has ever been
released on her case and no one has ever been arrested in that case yeah but if her remains
were scat pretty much assume it's homicide we do we do have the lockley county coroner steve merrell who tells ozark
first it's still an open case this in regards to cassidy's mother and merle says that at
this time he does not believe that there is any connection between cassidy's disappearance and her mother's death
again her mother went missing in 2007 and then remains were found the following year maybe it's not likely but
it's not impossible and hopefully we get more answers for cassidy rainwater as these two monsters
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Spookyville /// Part 2 /// 531 Part 2 of 2

www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Happy Halloween from your Garage friends! There are some pretty scary stories and rumors coming out of a tiny town in Missouri. Stories of meat hooks, cannibalism and serial killing. These rumors and stories all stem from an ongoing Missing Persons Investigation. The last reported sighting of 33 -year old Cassidy Rainwater was back in July of 2021. With a tip from the F.B.I. the Dallas County Sheriff’s office is investigating after receiving a photo of the woman partially nude and caged. Some of the locals call this place Spookyville. Join us in the Garage for some Halloween fun as we crack a couple and take a look at this open investigation and discuss just what might come of it.

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Brief Summary

Cassidy Rainwater's missing person case involves disturbing evidence and speculation about her suspects' past crimes.

Key points

Vanilla Pumpkin Beer Review. The hosts review a locally produced vanilla pumpkin beer, giving it a garage grade of three and a half bottle caps out of five.
Cassidy Rainwater's Mysterious Disappearance. 33-year-old Cassidy Rainwater is missing, with her case drawing significant social media attention due to disturbing developments.
Rumors Surrounding Phelps and Norton. Speculation arises about the involvement of suspects in multiple heinous acts, including possible connections to the Springfield 3 case.
The Inoperable Van. Eyewitness accounts raise questions about the van's condition before the fire.
Rumors of Cannibalism. Speculation arises about meat hooks and potential human remains found on the property.
Sheriff's Warning on Misinformation. Sheriff Rice criticizes social media speculation regarding the case.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

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Discussion of Cassidy Rainwater's case

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Tension

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