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true crime on Thanksgiving Day November 24th 2016 Keith Pini says he got up early
that day and at 4:30 a.m. his cell phone rang now this call comes in and he says
it's a number he did not recognize so he didn't answer his phone it's an unknown
caller yeah then the home phone is ringing to which he does answer the home phone and he told 2020 that it was his
wife screaming in the background yelling his name and a police officer to which he could hear the officer telling the
wife that she needed to be calm she needed to calm down mhm 22 days after she vanished Sher Pini turned up 150 mil
away from her home she was found in Yolo County around 400 a.m. on the side of an
entrance ramp to the Northbound I5 Highway this is near County Road 17 a female motorist Allison Sutton
called police upon seeing a frantic woman roadside waving what she believed to be a shirt now Allison says she
didn't stop because she wasn't certain that this whole situation was safe for her to stop right she thought it was
just maybe a crazy person on the side of the road a second driver this was a truck driver he he did stop and he
called police now Sher Pini was found she was clothed in light gray sweatpants and a dark gray sweatshirt I point out
what she was found in because this is not what she was wearing when when she went missing there was also a chain
wrapped around her waist and her left wrist was Tethered to the chain with a zip tie according to the local papers
specifically the Sacramento B and the reading record search light Sherry also had hose clamps around her ankles to
which sergeant Brian Jackson said quote appear to have acted as pain compliance restraints it's very important to
understand that nearly everything we know about sher's ordeal and her release we know from her husband Keith Sherry
has never made a public statement she has never well she's not even appeared in public at all about this and the
Sheriff's Office the Chasta County Sheriff's Office they've only really addressed any
of these circumstances regarding sher's ordeal possibly because they feel that they've
been forced to because of Keith's public statements we'll present what he says what Keith says and then we'll address
what if anything we actually know to be true so I'm going to paraphrase some of this stuff uh that follows but this is
what Keith told 2020 about Sherry's release he says that she was bound that she had a chain around her waist
she had a bag over her head he says he can't remember if it was her right or her left arm that was chained to the
chain but one of her arms was chained to the chain and then the other hand was chained to something inside the vehicle
and to be clear the interviewer wants to clarify and says this is to make sure that she didn't
jump out of the vehicle to which he says yes now he says at at some point they cut something to free her
restraint that was holding her to the vehicle then they pushed her out and they drove away Sher had one hand free
and took the bag off of her head and at this point she has no idea where she is she runs to a house to which she doesn't
say she says to him that it didn't look to be like a good idea MH so she then ran to another building but couldn't get
inside the building and that's when she chose to run to the freeway and how far away she found from her actual home 150
miles so quite a distance yeah and he goes on to tell 2020 that she's you know she's screaming She's
coughing um he says that she's coughing up blood and screaming trying to get people to
stop you know get a vehicle to stop so they can help her mhm but she tells him that she thinks
that because of the chains the chain wrapped around her that maybe people thought she escaped from a prison or or
escaped from somewhere that you know that she was a bad person and maybe that's why they wouldn't stop so she
purposely tried to hide the chain to try to get somebody to stop and eventually we know that somebody did stop why and I
guess she was severely beaten as well I mean she had a broken nose and she had bumps that seemed like all over her face
so that this could be an you know I I don't know if there was any dried blood or what the bruising situation would be
but that that could startle somebody the 2020 broadcast they played a radio transmission that that summoned the
ambulance to the scene where Sher was found you can hear like radio chatter but what what I heard in there says
attention Station 8 unknown medical problem it's going to be North on I5 female needs medical attention she is
heavily battered it's going to be some sort of an assault Now Keith after the phone call he rushes to the Woodland
Memorial Hospital this to see his wife Sherry he says when he got to Sherry's room he was horrified he told Good
Morning America quote nothing could have prepared me for what I was about to see
upon my arrival at the hospital nor the details of the true hell I was about to hear my first sight of my wife in a
hospital bed her face covered in bruises ranging from yellow to Black because of
repeated beatings the bridge of her nose broken her now emaciated body of 87 PBS
was covered in multicolored bruises severe burns red rashes and chain markings her signature long blonde hair
had been chopped off she had been branded and I could feel the rise of her scabs under my fingers end
quote the Shasta County Sheriff's Office well their information has been much less detailed than that of her husband
and authorities actually expressed frustration that Keith revealed so much information to the media right because
this is on go on Investigation so he says that her injuries the way he describes it this is pretty severe stuff
right yeah the the thing that would kind of go against that is disregarding the severity of her
injuries Sher Pini was released from the hospital and went to a hotel with her husband that same day right and this
according to the sheriff she was treated for her injury and released just as someone would be if they had sprained an
ankle that's what the sheriff said yeah but the sheriff did say that they were were ecstatic to report that Sher did
that she was located and had been reunited with her family right but to be on the side uh of Keith and his wife
look at some of these brutal UFC fights people go five rounds 25 minutes of punching each other in the face and
kicking each other in The Shins and these guys barely can walk out of the Octagon their faces look deformed they
look awful during the press conferences they go get checked out by the doctor and then they're they're sent away the
investigators from the major crimes unit did speak with Sherry this was briefly in the hospital and then they did
question her at length 5 days later after she recovered from these injuries now according to Sheriff baso Sherry was
quote cooperative and courageous in the intense and traumatic interviews with investigators he said Sherry reported
the following she said she was abducted by two Hispanic women in a dark colored SUV with large rear windows she had no
other description of the vehicle and she could not identify it on any video surveillance footage taken in the area
around the time of her abduction note that the Sheriff's Office never came out and said that Sherry was definitely
abducted while on her run we know that to be believed to be the case by her family beforehand all right so what else
have we learned Sherry only gives the officers a let's say vague description of her
abductors right and she went on to tell police that she avoided looking at them so they would not beat her
and that her head was covered for some of the time that she was held captive and we don't know how dark it was in
this place or anything yeah yeah the there again we have vague descriptions of everything because we're hearing this
this is what Sherry tells the police and this is what they have chose to release
to the public she says that one of the women note she says that she was abducted by two women mhm one of the
women had a long curly hair thin eyebrows and pierced ears she had a thick accent and she appeared to be
between 20 and 30 years old about 5 foot 5 in tall suspect number two according to Sherry was older maybe 40 to 50 years
of age about 5' 7 and had straight black hair with some gray she had thick eyebrows and pierced ears
both were armed with handguns she said that the kidnappers drove for about 2 and 1/2 hours non-stop
on the first day the kidnappers spoke Spanish most of the time the female captors were the only two people with
whom Sherry had contact with for the duration of her captivity basenko confirmed that she was bound with the
restraints when she was found and Jackson the other officer said that Sher had been branded on her right shoulder
after and appeared battered and bruised now they they actually think this branding was something like it actually
said something yeah the description I read was that the brand appeared to be a message rather than a symbol but
whatever it is it's unclear what it what it's intended to be well I think they know what it is or at least the the the
rumors that I heard is they know what the message is they're just not releasing that to the public okay I I
had saw that it was illegible that they they couldn't make anything out of it but I don't know that to be true so I
don't want to I don't want to steer anybody the wrong way either way I mean that's pretty creepy that somebody would
brand you and not just brand you with some symbol but some type of message Sherry told investigators that she was
not sexually assaulted uh we do have investigators that that did confirm that sher's hair
was shoulder length when she was found now I do want to point out that a lot of people suspect that Sherry's exceedingly
long hair was actually extensions that were may have just been removed mhm the the thing here to give the best
description to those out there listening is that when she was found her hair was
not what I would call short it was just shorter it was it was shoulder length at
the time now Sherry told detectives that just before she was released she could hear her captors having an argument
followed by a gunshot she said the younger of her abductors then took her from the room where she was being held
captive drove her down a Winding Road and dropped her off near Interstate 5 a be on the lookout immediately went out
for a dark colored SUV with two latino women but everyone acknowledged that in California that description well it
didn't go very far mhm on the day after Sherry was found her sister held a press
conference and she was reading a statement that was prepared by Sherry and Keith the gist of it really is just
giving thanks to all the people that helped search for her and just being thankful that she was returned and
allowed to go home in time for Thanksgiving now following this statement Sheila agreed to answer some
questions but where this whole thing gets tricky again Sheila seems to have very little information she didn't know
whether Sher had seen her kids yet this is the day after she was found she didn't know whether a ransom was paid
she didn't seem to have any interest in discussing who might have done this to her sister she didn't even have an
answer to a reporter's question as to whether Sherry was employed or not at the time of the
abduction really she just kept repeating that the two had a joyous reunion it it for anybody that saw this
well for me anyway Captain it was just kind of a strange press conference and it
probably to keep things cleaner it might have been a whole lot better if if she would have just not opened it up to
questions at all right gave the statement and and walked away right because uh her not having having the
answers to some very simple questions it really didn't help the public opinion now keep in mind at this
time even when she was missing there were people out there that were suspicious of this quote unquote
abduction that was it a voluntary situation right was this a a a cry for help was this seeking attention yeah and
then when she's found and claims to have been released mhm those people that were suspicious
before they're even more suspicious now baloney right yeah because of very sparse details provided the tide of
public opinion began to shift Sheriff basenko said his Department continued to follow investigative leads and warned
people that quote until we identify the suspect the public should remain cautious end quote but contradictorily
also said that quote details of this investigation point to this being an isolated incident end
quot yeah that's that's a weird statement yeah he said that police still did not know the motive for the
abduction or whether Sherry was a specific Target or this was a random abduction he also said that because the
case was still active some sensitive details were being withheld and he expressed concern concern that some of
the information provided by Keith could affect the Integrity of the investigation
mhm I really want to know those sensitive those sensitive details yeah so what I'm getting at though is it
can't be it can't be both right if you're saying that this is an isolated incident but the public should remain
cautious it's see just it's very confusing these statements coming out from the sheriff's department now you
don't know when you when you review this you look at at it and you wonder okay is
this Sheriff's Department just really in need of a PR person or or are they confused themselves about the whole
investigation about about what could have took place well it kind of stinks Tom B
stinco well the the sheriff said despite over 600 tips quote none of the received
tips have been able to generate a viable lead or information as to who is responsible for
Sherry's abduction sure enough due to lack of information rumors and gossip really took over in this case people
began to theorize that perhaps there was more to the story the theory that that Sherry and perhaps Keith together
fabricated the whole thing this really started to gain some traction and an article ran in the
Huffington Post on December 2nd 2016 they reported the following that that the huff post had spoke to a
Communications officer or asked to speak with the communications officer at the sheriff's office they were connected to
a woman named Kelly to which no last name was given the huff post asked Kelly if Authority suspected some kind of hoax
in this case Kelly stated I don't know if the words ruled out can be used then on December 6 George
Stephanopoulos asked Sheriff basenko whether he had any reason to doubt Sherry's story yeah basenko responded
absolutely none so far we are still investigating this as a kidnapping abduction and everything that she has
provided us thus far is indicating that basenko backtracked a bit in an interview with people using a double
negative saying authorities have no reason not to believe Sherry but he also said abductions are rare in themselves
especially adult abductions on top of this being to women who Sherry described as her captors is even more unique so
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he I never left and again another happy birthday to the colel so some people are
calling this whole abduction a hoax right Captain yeah so I thought let's take some time here and sort through
some of the things that people point to some of the theories uh if you will okay
for one thing and this stems from a 2003 blog post that turned up on a defunct website called skin heads that's uh with
a z this was essentially a well a racist block right yeah hence the name right yeah uh and sounds racist
right in 2003 yeah it's not about haircuts it's it's about uh being a racist right so the 2003 post was
written by Sherry graph and I think I have that right actually I think I have that wrong it's but I'm going to spell
it for you Sherry g r a e FF from Shasta Lake right that's Sherry's uh maiden name correct and I believe believe
that's her hometown mhm the post rallied against Latinos who the author said hated her because she was quote
drug-free white and proud of her blood inheritage the blog post recounted a story of a violent altercation with a
Latino girl now sher's ex husband who we referenced earlier says that Sherry did
not write this post and he says that Sher wasn't racist when he knew her right Sheriff basenko said quote we are
familiar with that blog we do not know if it has any relevance to this case or not end quote Sherry and Keith of course
made no direct comment on the blog post although Keith seemed to touch on it in his Good Morning America interview
saying quote I understand people want proof that this was not some sort of hoax or plan to gain money or some
fabricated race War I do not see a purpose in addressing each Preposterous lie end quote Sherry also maintained a
public Pinterest account that contained a section marked cultural differences featuring memes expressing concerns
about illegal immigrants and Muslims this section has since been taken down there is plenty to point to that's
strange yeah there is plenty to point to that Sherry did write the blog post as you pointed out it's her made name it's
her hometown I guess there was also a rumor that uh that somebody thought maybe um
one of her friends wrote it to basically smear her um I did you hear that anywhere well
I I heard that plus other reasons why people suspect that it was not her or the theories on who could have posted
that pretending to be her and it appears to me what information that would indicate that it was her that wrote it
is all the information that anybody that knew her could have known they would have known all that stuff you know
people people point to a point in the post where where it references her family's pizza which her family I guess
her parents do own or did own a pizza restaurant at one point well but look whether it was her
whether it was fake whatever the fact of the matter is there's evidence that it was there and so if that would have
ticked off a a gang or ticked off anybody and they said we want to go after this individual they would be
going after her they they wouldn't have any knowledge that she didn't write it well right and I don't know I think
it's it's all weird that that we have that post and then later she's saying she was abducted by two Hispanic women
Or Hispanic looking women and but but the other thing too that that I find odd is we're talking about
it's what like 13 years apart yeah yeah 15 yeah 12 13 years later that seems yeah
would see seems strange that somebody would find a post from 13 years ago and then track the person down and then
kidnap them so digging into Sherry's past revealed something else in a 2003 Shasta County Sheriff's Office
incident report which is only two sentences long it stated that Sherry's mother Loretta
called the Sheriff's Office to ask for help with her daughter Sherry who had been harming herself and blaming her
injuries on her mother this call by Loretta to the Sheriff's Office about Sherry was one of several made by
Sherry's family about her this is during the years between 2000 and 2003 in 2000
her Father Richard alleged his daughter burglarized his residence 3 years later he alleged she made unauthorized
withdrawals from his checking account and in 2000 Sherry's sister Sheila alleged her back door had been kicked in
and she believed Sherry did it the reports provide no details about an arrest and it is unknown whether Sher
was ever charged with a crime any type of crime resulting from these these reports like you said it was
several years before again yes we're talking 133 to 16 years beforehand yeah and everybody goes through phases right
I mean I mean look I'm laughing but I'm only laughing because I'm V I'm visualizing somebody kicking in their
sister's door um yeah we we go through phases but I don't hey [ __ ] your couch yeah I don't know that I've ever I've
never kicked in anybody's door um now I bet you I bet you have you bet you bet that I have huh I bet you've tried I'm
not saying that you succeeded well listen to this this this I think is is more interesting the the Sheriff's
Office this is in response to a Foya request made by the Sacramento B the newspaper this provided expense reports
for outof State travel in related to this case based on these receipts two detectives traveled cross country to
Detroit Michigan and its suburbs of New Hudson Northville Plymouth and Canton between
November 9th and November 11th 2016 the same year that she was abducted yeah this is this is actually while she's
still missing so Sheriff basenko declined to spec to specify why the detectives went to Michigan or what they
found if anything there right but about a year after Sherry was returned the sheriff's office confirmed in an
official press release that Sherry and a male acquaintance from Michigan that's what they were calling him were involved
in an online texting relationship now Sergeant Jackson would not specify whether the relationship was
a romantic one but he did confirm that the text me messages went back several months he also stated that the male
acquaintance visited California in the days before Sherry went missing a press release later clarified quote days prior
to Sherry's disappearance Sherry and the male acquaintance text each other in attempt to meet while he was in
California this is according to Sergeant Jackson right according to him that is why they went to Michigan and he said
ruled out went went back to Michigan and ruled out right that the acquaintance was involved well I I think this just
shows you that um you know the the the thought process of their marriage being so great and so
romantic and and so P picture perfect that it just was not true yeah and it seems it seems like
most people believe that Keith knew nothing about this relationship regardless of what kind of relationship
it it was well isn't the thought process that um she was texting this guy and the
one of the reasons why I don't think Keith knew about it was that the guy's name was saved as a female's
name yeah and I saw some I mean that's shady well I saw some information out there too that would suggest
that you Shady girl this man being saved under a fake woman's name in her contacts may not have been a one-time
situation that this might have happened before right where where other men were saved under female
names how about this Theory the theory that the well remember the GoFundMe campaign M the the purpose of the
GoFundMe Campaign which was started by Keith's sister Suzanne on his behalf was to raise money to quote bring Sherry
home safe well for like private investigators and stuff like that too all funds were to go directly to the
family the GoFundMe raised $49,000 their goal was $50 ,000 and it raised this amount of money
fairly quickly no one seems to be certain what the funds were actually used for Sherry
and all of her family members including the ones who were in the public faces of
her search have completely withdrawn from the public regarding this and the money has not been returned we know Sher
came home but we don't know where that money went yeah and Keith has never made a statement on where the money went the
other thing that's weird about it too is that you're using this resource and you're you're updating people to get
money then you get a bunch of money and then when she's found you don't even update these people and these some of
these people because they saw your story in People magazine or on the Today Show
or however they saw your story there's people from all over the country um that were were donating money
to to help find your wife wife and and you didn't even put an update on the page right now almost a year after
Sherry vanished the Sheriff's Office issued a very interesting press release a document entitled kidnapping
investigation update stated that Sherry had both male and female DNA on her when
she was found the samples were uploaded into codus DNA database on well it looks
like April or May of 2017 but so far there's never been any matches to any known offenders the DNA
from sher's husband Keith was not among the two profiles they tested it against Keith the male DNA was compiled from the
clothing Sherry was found uh was wearing when she was found look she alleged that
that she had two female abductors she alleged that they gave her the clothing to wear so it is
possible this doesn't have to mean that a male was involved in her abduction or in whatever's going on here it is
possible that that DNA was already on the clothing when it was given to her to wear right but they released more
information right yeah the the Sheriff's Office revealed that Sherry told investigators that during her abduction
she got into an altercation with the younger abductor and this took place in a bathroom when
so Sherry according to the story she's allowed to take a shower and at some point they get into this altercation
Sherry says that she slammed the captor head into the toilet in the bathroom before she was
subdued and then returned to her room where she was being held she reported that she cut the side of her foot during
this confrontation people have pointed out that there were folks photos of Sherry and that they they were being
reviewed by the police department by the Sheriff's Office and there doesn't seem
to be any evidence in those photos that they can see that there were cuts on her
foot or either foot to back up this this whole story right but you you it makes you question when did this uh this
happen during her captive time 22 days did it happen at the beginning uh was it not that bad was she just
mistaken was she drugged at any point uh during during this capture who knows well what we do know is that they're
saying that she is providing very little details because she can't recall them right that she's just not able to
provide complete information to the Sheriff's Office and we'll get back to this October 2017 press release in in
just a minute uh I do want to point this point out this while we're going through
these suspicions and different theories right so we talked about the neighbors well there's more information there too
so the neighbors who lived near the penis said that Sherry wasn't a runner according to their knowledge right now
neighbor Joyce Allison said quote I've been here 12 years and I've never seen her jogging Betty vaugh whose home
overlooked the spot where sher's phone was located said quote I've never seen her jogging never seen her coming to the
mailboxes of course a couple of neighbors told police that they thought they saw Sherry on the day she
disappeared one at 9 one around 11: although it's not clear if she was actually running according to those
eyewitness reports yeah look these neighbors could just be strange individuals yeah so for those that we
keep referencing these mailboxes I think we probably should have done a better job of describing that speak for
yourself well yeah since it's a such a royal area they actually have a unit of like a bank of mailboxes all everybody
that lives in that Community they they have a bank of mailboxes so the mail carrier just pulls up there like you
would see at a condo or a apartment complex and this is what about a mile from their
house yeah that's where Keith goes looking for Sherry uh when he's tracking the phone again I don't put a ton of
weight into people saying hey I never saw her run because she wasn't a runner she was newly or what Keith says is
she's getting back into running and when he says she's getting back into running
it could have been something she did 15 years ago right so so she was getting back into running to run with her family
um she did live there for quite some time though again though like it could have been something that
she did in high school or or no no no I I get what you're saying I just want to be clear and point out that these the
neighbors who regarding their statements they were neighbors of hers for years it
wasn't like right which I understand that but I'm also stating that there's a bunch of people in her family not saying
that she's was an avid Runner saying this is a this is a new thing you you know what I mean like she was training
for this this one event with her family MH yeah I'm I'm not suspicious of the running itself I'm suspicious of the
wording that keeps circling around that so the normal thing Sergeant Brian Jackson said to People magazine in
October 2017 quote what was the purpose he's talking about the abduction why was
she released it is hard to keep somebody in captivity for 22 days why would somebody go to that length those are all
types of questions we still have yeah the the other thing too is a lot of people say that this is real because of
something as simple as the broken nose MH and my argument would be if you're a whackadoo enough to plan out um going
missing that you're also wacka do enough to break your own nose that that would be my argument to
those people the other thing too is people I've been hearing a lot of people say
well if if this was for attention that she hasn't really shared the spotlight she hasn't really received
any attention because she's been in hiding pretty much right she's basically should say hiding but
she's she's basically become a reclus they moved uh they don't live in that town anymore so they move away and and
neighbors are like yeah we never see her MH we don't see her at all and so so that doesn't make a lot of sense the
attention part but then when people say money they go oh well uh she did this for money or or it couldn't be a fake
because she didn't get money well we know that we have about $50,000 which isn't a ton of money but it's money
that's not accounted for and and so but then people go well but that's just a little bit of money think about how much
money she could make if she wrote a book and my argument about any of this stuff
is maybe all this stuff is coming maybe a book is coming maybe a movie is coming
so you can't roll that that out as a possibility that money's uh wasn't a motivation to fake this
well here okay we we'll get into this now because look you look as far as the money goes let's keep in mind
$50,000 according to what I could find was was equal to or very close to being equal to their yearly household
income yeah that that $50,000 sounds a lot bigger when you describe it that way right it takes somebody a whole year the
the whole family together the whole household income is equal to this for the entirety of a year so that seems
like quite a bit more money when you describe it that way and and if somebody recently just lost their part-time
position and now as a stay-at-home mom maybe you need that money well and then people that point out hey this is real
because she had a broken nose right I I hate to answer answer you know answer a question with a question
but who's saying that she has a broken nose or that she had a broken nose right Keith so if Keith is in on it or let's
say he's not let's say something went down and he doesn't know what's going on but she has convinced him that something
went down he's either standing up for her or could be covering for her mhm so that's where I I think you're going to
get these arguments back and forth I do want to get into something you know I said would get back to that press
release well one more thing I also want to say that you know during the pr press
release or the cops have said multiple times you're held in captive for 22 days what was the motivation for them to
release her and like you stated before there was multiple statements saying that we'd
give you this money if they were released and then it became the day before she was released there was
another statement issue there's a threat right there to the captors not a not just a threat but it's like again maybe
there was some contact and maybe that's the reason why we don't know where this GoFundMe money went because it actually
went to paying these people off to get her out could be could be but but the threat that was going out there the day
before she was released was not that this money is going to be given to you to to pay a ransom for her safe return
we're going to use this money to find you right but I'm just saying that all that could have changed if the people
actually try to make contact and say hey yeah we got her and we want the money so
in October of 2017 this is when the authorities finally released two sketches of the women described by
Sherry the release noted that the sketches were being released 10 months after after Sherry's disappearance
because of sher's difficulty in recalling what her abductors look like now this part Captain I believe is is
quite important as well the FBI poster States quote the Federal Bureau of Investigation in cooperation with the
Shasta County Sheriff's Office is asking for the Public's assistance regarding The Disappearance of Sherry Pini end
quote this poster was released well after Sherry was returned turned alive I question why the poster would use the
word why they wouldn't use the word abduction instead of the word disappearance right also the poster says
FBI is seeking information about the two quote individuals depicted in the sketches they may have information the
poster does not call the women suspects or perpetrators or even Persons of Interest and according to Sherry she is
told law enforcement these are the people that abducted me at gunpoint yeah strange also about a year later
authorities released surveillance footage from a church in Woodland California this is near where Sherry
turned up this appears to show a distorted image of a figure running through a parking lot in the dark and
then running back law enforcement confirmed that the footage timestamped 4:15 a.m. shows a newly released Sherry
Pino seemingly darting around looking for help just before running onto the highway Entrance Ramp many people
believe that police released this video as well as much of the other official information meaning the male DNA found
on Sherry the Michigan Man story The stated inconsistencies about the cut on her foot to make Sherry feel pressure
and that maybe she would crack and and if if there was a different story if there was was a different truth to what
went down that she would come forward and give them that information yeah I wonder if it's the idea that law
enforcement is saying not only do we have this footage but we have even more footage that we're we're not even going
to show the public and we're going to let you know that we have it cuz maybe they maybe there's some footage of her
earlier than that who knows and I do want to make sure that we go through some more detailed theories here about
what could have happened I'm I am going to skip ahead a bit uh one of the theories was that this is a sex
trafficking case I do want to if anybody wants to explore that angle you can but
I I will just kind of sum that up with saying that the police say that they have ruled out sex trafficking as a
motive for Sherry's abduction well based off what Keith says there was no sexual
assault yeah and the thing here is I think that there are some more plausible some more likely theories in this
situation if in fact it was a hoax if this is not truly an abduction one of those theories is a
liaison gone very wrong this Theory probably stems from the Revelation that Sherry was in contact with the Michigan
man some people believe that police revealed this information to show that Sherry was conducting an affair or maybe
affairs with men outside of her marriage the theory goes like this that she texted Keith to find out whether he'd be
coming home for lunch this to ensure that he was busy the kids are gone all day and she
was meeting up with a lover or meeting up with an intended love lover and either
one of two things happened one it went wrong and the guy turned out to be violent and dangerous and she escaped
this man 20 22 days later but was too embarrassed to tell the truth right the other angle of this is that she bailed
on her husband and kids to run off with a guy or this guy and then fake the whole abduction thing so that she could
return but return to her family blame free people who buy into this Theory well they they basically claim captain
that the Sheriff's Office knows they know that sherry made the whole thing up they just can't prove it
right now I do want to be clear here we do not have any Insider information but from what I can see the
general rumor of people in that area it seems like they believe that the sheriff's office is pretty much split as
to whether this is a hoax or if this was an actual abduction and the rumors that
I have seen from that area point to that the two lead investigators well I I should be clear about
this because it sounds like the first lead investigator on this believes that it's a hoax but we know that we
have we have the head sheriff in charge and we also have Sergeant Jackson who have very publicly stated that they
believe this is a real Abduction the rumors I've seen is that those are the only two that believe within the
sheriff's office that this abduction was real yeah so you can see why it's easy to really question this and really be
suspicious of the whole thing um one other theory that I saw Captain is that this could be a drug situation now I
chose to leave this in because I find it much more likely than some of the other
theories that are out there but I want to be clear this should be taken with a grain of salt okay
because this was this was pulled off of Reddit it does come from someone who's been granted verified Insider status as
somebody being an Insider on this case the post states that Sherry had a serious addiction to benzo
daene and that Keith was using some other type of drugs and she was using other types of drugs as well this
Insider using air quotes there says that Sherry relapsed a few times and had resorted to buying pills on the street
now this Insider theorizes that Sherry had gone on a bender or someone she owed drug money to had abducted
her again this would point to a similar Theory to that of the hoax to gain the GoFundMe money the GoFundMe
funds while I think that this is is more likely than some of the other other theories that are out there I want I
want to be clear I think it's one of the least likely theories that we've discussed
here today I've purposely left out theories that seem just totally off-the-wall totally unlikely at all Bigfoot yeah
yeah SAS Squatch so the thing here Captain we have we've talked about revenge we've talked about an affair
we've talked about drugs um all kinds of different reasons different theories as
to why this would be a faked abduction uh you've pointed out some reasons why it would be a real abduction
M we we would be remiss if we didn't bring up uh a story from 2015 this was the kidnapping of Denise
huskins in Vallejo California Denise and her boyfriend Aaron were asleep one night when a man broke into their home
and and made her tie up Aaron and kidnapped Denise he raped and assaulted her but eventually released her dropping
her off from his car on the side of the road detectives at the time assumed the couple's brutal abduction story was a
complete hoax but eventually the perpetrator a Harvard trained attorney named Matthew Moher was caught after
committing another crime a similar crime right the the Vallejo police Department
settled with Denise huskins for $2.5 million so this is just another situation of where they come out and
this situation they were very public about it being a hoax they didn't believe the story where we see the
Shasta County Sheriff's Office they seem to be confused or or not quite clear on
what their actual stance is right yeah yeah but that's because there was a rape involved
and and I mean let's just be honest as far as uh sexual assaults in this country it's maybe the only crime that I
can think of that law enforcement after you um after you make your statement and
after you claim that there was a crime that they go are you telling the truth I mean it's like the only crime that that
happens for I mean you don't go hey my bike was stolen from my garage and have police come out and go you know within
the first couple minutes ask if you're lying about it so that that I think that just happens far too often with that
type of well it appears it appears that that's happening with abduction stories as well right because that's what we're
reporting on today and it makes it a lot easier to know that the police were just
straight up wrong in the Denise huskin case because they do apprehend the perpetrator you know where you have
questions about Sher story and about her abduction but if tomorrow they arrested
two Hispanic looking women that they could prove abducted her I mean that wipes everything completely away all
right yeah um it's it really is a a difficult thing it doesn't seem to be that there's any clear answer I don't
know if you have an opinion on what you think may have happened here Captain uh I mean I don't want to I
don't want to ramble too long but all I could come up with conclusion wise because we normally go what do you
think is the word that comes to mind is sad is if this is real and oh it's a horrible situation if
this is real can you imagine then it's horrible it's 22 days of torture you got a branding on your body
possibly forever you know cutting your hair breaking your nose you know it's just that's
awful if it's a hoax and she was going to go hang out with some guy and that went wrong or went well or whatever it
was that's sad too the fact that she was talking to multiple men behind her husband that's sad you know if it was a
drug thing that's sad that she would go missing from her kids for 22 days because of drugs that's sad the fact
that she is now a recluse at least we have some proof of that or at least that's what some neighbor Neighbors
claim and that's what her husband claims that's sad um it's almost like any theory that
you come up with that you think happened it's sad if it if it was just for seeking attention that is sad that is
somebody that has serious mental issues um that needs help and it's probably not
getting it uh because of this whole ordeal and now being um a recluse um but my gut doesn't tell me either way
because like you said the most difficult thing about this whole case is where the
information is coming from I don't know what this this branding is I don't know if there's some message
involved I there's there's different things that point me to believe one thing over another thing but again it's
where the information is coming from and I don't believe the sources yeah I I tell you what I'm going to give Sherry
the benefit of the doubt here and say that I believe her story I believe that she was abducted and I hope they
continue I hope police continue to search for her abductors and whoever whoever you know carried out these
terrible crimes right the only reason why I lean that way I am suspicious of some things but but here here's the
problem I'm not suspicious of a lot of the things that I see people being suspicious of online and then the the
fact that she was released that seemed to even bolster people's suspicions like oh she she turned up nobody ever lets
people go all right that doesn't happen a lot we do know that but we do we already pointed to at least one other
case where that did in fact take place the captor release them anytime somebody is missing if they were abducted that is
what we hope and pray for each and every minute of every hour of every day that they are gone that whoever has them will
grow a heart and release them mhm and if in fact that happened in this situation
whether it be that the abductors got scared felt threatened got tired of holding her whatever happened that
caused them to release her I'm thankful that they did so I kind of lean toward this story being being truthful Sherry's
story being truthful and what I want to point out is the the radio call that went out to the ambulance that states
that there was assault that she was badly beaten MH that to me is the one that's the only other part where I can
see somebody other than her husband stating that these injuries actually took place or that she appeared to have
been injured now if if in fact this was a hoax if if she wasn't really abducted if this was carried
out we know that somebody else had to be involved because she was missing for 22
days she disappeared for 22 days somebody had to help her with that if there was anybody involved in a
hoax I I have no reason to believe I actually believe that Keith does not know right what really
happened I I don't I don't see I understand these theories and I understand the speculation but I don't
see anything that points to me that that he was involved in helping carry out this whole ordeal in November of
2018 Sergeant Jackson told the local ABC 10 TV station that he did not consider Sherry's case cold and that there's
still several Avenues we are looking at but now nearly 3 years after Sher pini's
perplexing disappearance and reappearance and what has been described as quote one of the largest man hunts in
California history we still have no answers we've never heard from Sherry her family has gone silent secret
witness of California is still offering $10,000 for information regarding the Abduction of Sher
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Brief Summary

Sherri Pini's abduction case raises questions about her injuries and possible hoax theories.

Key points

Sherry Pini's Abduction. Sherry Pini was abducted and found 150 miles from home, bound and battered.
Keith's Horrifying Discovery. Keith Pini describes the shocking sight of his wife in the hospital after her ordeal.
Conflicting Statements from Authorities. Sheriff's statements about the case raise questions about the investigation's integrity.
Rosetta Stone's Impact. A user shares how Rosetta Stone helped them learn French through real conversations.
Skepticism Surrounds Sherry's Abduction. Keith addresses public doubts about the authenticity of Sherry's kidnapping.
The Mystery of the GoFundMe Funds. Questions arise about the $49,000 raised for Sherry's safe return and its usage.

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