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some true [Music] crime [Music] 911 what's the location of the emergency H school I think there's somebody's
shooting in here at Sandy Hook school okay what makes you think that because somebody's got I a glimpse of somebody
they're running down the hallway they're still grounding they're still shooting Sandy Hook school
[Music] please it's 911 what's the ash it's K Dickson Drive and Sandy Hook New New
Town Connecticut okay what's going on at 10 Dickson Drive it sounds like there are gunshots in the hallway I'm a
teacher in the school okay where are are you in the school right now I am in the school I'm
in your classroom okay do you have everyone in the classroom and the door all of my students the door is not
locked yet I have to go okay door tell me keep everybody calm keep everybody down get everybody away from the windows
okay yes okay where are you in the school I'm in the the hallway when you walk in the front entrance if you take a
left okay all right just try to lock down the school okay we're trying okay all right byebye down 911 what's the
location of your emergency s Hook Elementary School 12 tickets in Drive okay I've got that what's going on down
there believe they're shooting at the front at the front glass something's going on all right I've got I want you
to stay on alignment where are you in the school I'm down the corridor all right I want you to take cover Jen get
the sergeant all right get everybody you can going down there all right let me let me
get some information from you what makes you think that the fun Blass was all shot out kept kept going on
okay it's still happening [Music] all right what about the students in the front of the building everything's
locked up as far as I know I'm not in the front all right you're in lock down do yeah they're in lock down did you see
anything out the window no it's still going on I can't get over there okay I don't want you to go over there I want
to know what's happening with the students though along the front Corridor this is in the front parking lot yes I'm
not I'm not in the front I'm actually down the other part but I'm close okay do you see anything or hear anything
more I keep hearing shooting I can't keep hearing popping guys we got a shooting it's is
Sandy Hook Elementary School in New Town it's 911 off the hook for I'm going all right J let's get one let's
get one caller I'll take my [Music] caller all right now who am I talking with right
now pardon me what's your name Rick storm Rick storm all right Rick what is your
position with the school I'm I'm acting head to soding today what's the address of the school
12 drive drive okay something's happening okay Jen hang up I need you to get off
that phone all [Music] right R yes all right what are you hear now uh it's now it's silent
okay that's Riverside bro all right now when you say the school is in [Music] lockdown locking classrooms okay so at
this time you're defending in place excuse me okay at this time all the rooms are
locked okay did you see anything help before this started no I [Music] was where are you in the told me sh
going past the gym just now all right now are they running on the outside or the inside I would say
that was the [Music] outside Roger there's still shooting going on please all right what about injuries at
this time excuse me what about injuries at this time I don't know of any injuries right now
okay there we go coming [Music] at come up the [Music] drive [Music] Jen I need you to call the State
Police just still still going [Music] on 911 theery this is the state police I got uh a victim victim from the shooter
here y she's been shot once in the foot she's been shot once in the foot she's okay all room number one room
number one yep uh one shot in room one how close are you guys to uh arriving on team what how close are you
guys female shot uh in the foot you got a female parking shot in the foot y she's right by right by the playground
room number one oh I know that okay where uh where are you are you okay right now yeah okay where where where's
room one in the school facing the playground where are you facing the playground on the playground facing
towards okay are you safe right now uh I think so my classroom door is not locked
okay is there anybody that can lock the classro door without being safe safe to do so okay all right just try to stay
where you are okay there's children in this room okay try to apply pressure okay yeah okay we
have people coming okay uh-huh all right is there any other teacher with you in there or is just students uh no
there's two other adults in the room with you okay all right are they are they right next to you or where are they
in the room no they're they're over on the other side of the bookshelf okay all right are you okay right now for now
hopefully okay all right just keep an eye on it try to keep pressure on it okay we have people heading out there
okay byebye [Music] on Friday December 14th 2012 20-year-old Adam Peter lza woke up gathered some of
his things shot his mother four times in the head as she lied in bed in her pajamas probably still asleep left the
22 caliber Savage bolt action rifle that he used to kill his mother in her room and at sometime around 9:30 a.m. he got
into his mother's Honda sedan and drove off this event is very tragic and horrific but a lot of the events and a
lot of the details will be questioned especially this next part here because the thought is that Adam planned to
drive to the new town High School and I can't prove this but it has been reported that someone close to the
investigation has said that a vehicle matching the description to the vehicle that Adam was driving that morning had
drove near the high school but never enter entered the parking lot there were two police cars in the high school's
parking lot if this vehicle was in fact the car that Adam was driving he may have seen the police officer's vehicles
and changed his plans at the last minute and if this is the case I mean we we will never know
uh but he instead drove to the Sandy Hook Elementary School which was just a short 5-minute drive from the Lanza's
home very interesting that there was some speculation that he wanted to go to the high school but Adam ends up at
Sandy Hook Elementary School around 9:30 935 yeah Adam gets out of the vehicle he
leaves the door open the doors open he parked near the fire lane uh he left a shotgun along with ammunition in the
vehicle this it's been thought that if he were to go into the school and do whatever he was planning that if once
First Responders started to arrive that he would have an option to go back to that vehicle retrieve that firearm and
make a stand there in the parking lot there's a couple reports and you'll see this constantly as far as and we'll get
into some of the conspiracy stuff later but there is a lot of reports stating that it wasn't a shotgun left in the car
that it was actually the AR-15 uh and that is not correct it was actually the shotgun left in his vehicle
Adam was wearing black clothing he had earplugs sunglasses and a green utility vest inside the vest he had 10 magazines
each of them with 30 rounds of ammunition in them he had two pistols in his military style cargo pants uh there
was no one going in or out of the school at this time Adam Lanza using his mother's Bushmaster xm15 e2s rifle
uh he shot out the glass they had security doors that were basically locked that you couldn't get in without
granting permission um and he shot out the glass panels on these locked two front doors in a in a single second he
fired six shells into the glass this creating a hole large enough for him to walk through anybody that has kids uh
nephews nieces anybody knows that when you go to these schools now almost every school that I've been to they have to
actually buzz you in so you get to the front doors they're locked you have to they buzz you in you're on camera you
have to identify who you are and this is definitely a step in the right direction
from when we were in school I mean these are setting in place certain precautions
so that the the bad elements don't make it in to the school near the front entrance uh several of the faculty
members were engaged into a meeting yeah and Adam actually briefly stopped there
for a minute and this is where the staff St now knows that the Pops that they had
just heard were actually gunshots because they can see the man and they can see the firearms in this commotion
someone accidentally tripped the switch to the PA or the intercom system this is
now projecting the noises and the voices that would be heard from this room in this area to the rest of the school by
this time 911 calls are starting to be placed well and maybe it's not an accident maybe it was this is a way to
let everybody else in the school know what is going on yeah I I think it's kind of maybe a uh you know kind of an
angel or God stepping in a little bit to to give some kind of warning to the rest
of the school because the person that that accidentally hit the switch uh did survive uh this this event and and said
that they had accidentally hit the switch when they were trying to run to the phone to to call 911 Adam is now
inside Sandy Hook Elementary School and the first 911 call has been placed in the hallway we have principal Don hotung
teacher Natalie Hammond and psychologist Mary Sherlock now they are confronted by
the shooter here principal Dawn she lunges at the shooter trying to grab the gun in a in a moment of Bravery trying
to save everybody um she's unable to do so and Adam shot her several times he then turns the gun on the psychologist
Natalie Hammond was shot several times but she was lying on the floor She lay very still on the floor until the
shooter left the area afterward Adam went down the hallway toward the first grade classroom Natalie Hammond would
actually survive this attack yeah but the principal hrung and psychologist Sherlock did not as we know in these
situations people do not always know what is going on you of course don't wake up in the morning expecting to hear
gunshots that day so when you do it's not always clear what you may have heard but also in this situation we have some
very young kids at school and of course some of them are just too young to comprehend what is going on so some of
the kids that are hearing this gunfire now mind you it's the noises are still going off over the intercom system um
some of these kids are saying things like they think maybe the Army is at the school or that there's an animal loose
in the school it's an unbelievably sad situation as this whole situation is but please please keep in mind there is only
one monster here there is only one unbelievably horrible person here there are many many honorable Brave heroes in
the story we have teachers administrators and faculty members that are doing everything that they can to
try to save children's lives or save the lives of their co-workers there are teachers who are Hiding Children
retreating to other spaces with kids we have the principal who attempted to disarm the shooter there's the custodian
Rick Thorne who ran down the Halls warning everyone that there's a shooter in the building he was locking doors and
telling teachers and children to get down and hide uh teacher Victoria SoDo barricaded kids in in a closet and told
many of them to hide under desk well you can hear on the 911 tapes uh when the janitor is calling there's gunshots
happening in the background uh again this is you know not to bring up the conspiracy thing too
much because we will talk more about it later but a lot of people believe that those on those 911 calls that those
gunshots are fake those those gunshots are not fake people and that guy was running and
trying to communicate with the 911 dispatcher as shots are being fired as he's moving around the building and uh
that is called bravery and that's something uh we should commend him for not only did teacher Victoria stto
barricade kids in a closet and telling other children to get under desk but she ultimately ended up putting herself
between the shooter and the kids and he fatally shot her for doing so when all the teachers were trying to keep the
students calm which is a lot more difficult when you have younger students not knowing what is going on yeah and
some of the teachers did this by praying with them or praying for them uh out loud uh by telling them nice and
soothing words and phrases some of them even telling the children that they are loved and that the teachers loved them
um so we see the situation trying to keep everybody calm but quiet as well and and tucked away in in these
concealed areas to try to be not be seen by this Maniac that's in the school je just after 9:40 a.m. police hear the
final shot that is fired Adam using the Glock pistol that he had concealed in his large cargo pants put the gun up to
the lower rear portion of his skull and he fired the final bullet killing himself the police and other law
enforcement were already outside it only took them 5 minutes to respond to the 911 calls and when the police had
arrived they had actually heard several shots before that final shot now this is
one thing that has caused some confusion over the years and and some speculation
that need not be uh when they first arrived they thought that shots were coming from outside um it was later
determined that that may have been the case because some of the vehicles in the parking lot were hit with bullets this
would be because Adam was trying to shoot teachers who were actually running near windows so the bullets are
traveling through the school windows and hitting vehicles in the parking lot and
during all this chaos and confusion Nancy Lanza actually receives a text message from one of her friends saying
that there is something going on at Sandy Hook Elementary School at 2:11 p.m. that afternoon CNN reports the the
shooting suspect is named Ryan Lanza and he is in his 20s about 10 minutes later
Fox news reports the same and a few minutes after that MSNBC follows with the same information now police had
found an ID card for Ryan Lanza in Adam Lanza's clothing Ryan Lanza was at work when he first heard about the shooting
on the news just so anybody is confused Ryan Lanza is the older brother of Adam yeah he's about four years older than
Adam and he is still at work when he first hears that he is the suspected shooter in this event uh after hearing
this news of course he immediately leaves work without giving uh any explanation as to
why Ryan quickly and I won't ex I won't say exactly what he had said um but he basically posted on Facebook that he
didn't do it uh this is as he's leaving you know just after he's left work now through text and Facebook messages uh he
is communicating with his friends some of his friends are asking if he is okay others want to know how the news could
jump to such a conclusion with no evidence because I mean they're in contact with this person essentially
there is evidence I mean because law enforcement you have this kid uh which shot himself he's dead and and you can't
probably positively ID him right away and then you have a ID on this individual ual that states who he is M
but that's not being reported in the news it's just being reported that Ryan lza is the you know they're not
reporting that they found an ID of anybody well and I don't are I don't think they're even reporting that the
shooter is dead uh no they're I mean they are all over the map with what they're reporting at this time well but
that's the problem with news in general I mean we have this mentality now to be first who who gives a [ __ ] about being
right we can apologize later let's be first and and that's definitely not the way to cover any story especially one as
tragic as this one so after Ryan has had some time to think about what's going on
and try to process the information whether it be good bad or indifferent that he has received uh he sends a
private Facebook message to a friend a very close friend and he says the shooter could have had my ID and then a
few minutes later Ryan sent another message to the same friend saying it was my brother oh my God I think my mother
is dead yeah there's probably a lot of thoughts going through Ryan's head at this moment uh oh my God what did my
brother do is my family all right he was he was estrange from his brother he they
he cut ties of communication but uh this is some heavy stuff and uh we'll get back to it right
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that and we are back thanks for everybody for for sticking with us we understand that this is very uh tough
information especially with the age of the victims yeah and there are more details about the actual attack uh that
we obviously didn't cover in that first half and we're not going to cover them in the second half as well because of
the age of the victims um you know I feel like we covered it pretty appropriately given the circumstance
yeah I think a lot of the point of covering some of this stuff is to bring awareness
and kind of understand what the psyche uh of this individual was where this person was at is there any possible way
that we could have prevented this and none of those details really help us with that and and you're exactly right
what we wanted to do here was really talk about uh what was going on with the attacker with the shooter with Adam
beforehand so that we can because there is that question of why when these things happen and it's never really
fully answered but we wanted to provide some information that you may not have heard before and information that is not
so readily available as well to give us some insights as to what was going on leading up to this horrible event and
where we're at currently and covering this case we have the news releasing some very bad information again like I
said trying to be first and not trying to be correct you're exactly right the information that was coming out is not
giving good information as to what actually took place in New Town and now we get this information that the
shooter's name was Ryan Lanza who was 24 years old he's at work when this situation took place he's nowhere near
the town of new town and he's hearing this information he's leaving work and it has dawned on him it's not been it's
not been presented to him or confirmed yet but now he's he's getting the feeling that his brother was responsible
for this and that his mother has probably been killed before this event took took place the news that would
continue to come out that day um it again it's it's well let's not call it news let's call it
misinformation yeah because it's bad information um some of the other news is that stating that the shooter they're
still calling him Ryan at this point that the shooter's mother was a teacher at Sandy Hook and that he had killed her
and that Ryan's brother was found dead in Hoboken New Jersey they are now reporting that the suspected Shooters
Ryan land is 24 years old shortly after this Ryan is arrested in Hoboken New Jersey near his home under interrogation
he is being asked by police if he knew what his brother had done and he says yes he had seen the news about the
shooting at Sandy Hook at work and he knew his brother and mother were dead that's what he's telling the police MH
after 5:00 p.m. the news stations start correcting themselves and they yeah and we see this all the time this
backtracking and it's just it's irresponsible because because of a lot of this misinformation and we'll get into this
later is the is the conspiracy side and if it wasn't for so much of this misinformation we wouldn't have all
these questions at the end we' be questioned the actual event what we could do to possibly prevent it but now
all we're left with is questioning the actual event itself mhm so after 5:00 p.m. they start reporting that the
suspected shooter was not in fact Ryan Lanza but his younger brother Adam mhm there was still more bad information to
come out though this would be that Adam's girlfriend and the girlfriend's mother were reported missing in New
Jersey and we know that Adam did not have a girlfriend so this is you know just not not correct the parents of the
school children and the family members of the teachers were told to go to the new Town firehouse and this is where
they would be reunited with their loved ones or given further instruction as to where to go or what to do and we have
family members there now and they're they're being reunited but they still don't know many of the details of what
events took place earlier yes several of the kids are being reunited with their parents and after a while there's a
whole bunch of parents from kids of basically two classrooms that are left left now these parents would be greeted
by the governor who stood before them to give a very short announcement M and his
announcement was only two of the children were taken to the hospital and they expired some of the parents started
to scream one man yelled out where do we go we want to be with our kids the governor responded by saying no one else
has been taken to the hospital another parent then shouted what does that mean are they all dead and the governor says
yes at this point we have a bunch of officers in law enforcement heading to the land of home to maybe get some more
clues yeah because at this point they've connected the black Honda that they found in the parking lot the one that
Adam was driving uh as being that of Nancy Lanas the officers were actually expecting a potential gunfight when
arriving they didn't really know what they were walking into or or or had any expectation of what they might see or
encounter they entered the home without any trouble they begin to swarm the house moving
methodically from room to room the first thing that they notice is the house is extremely clean and well organized uh in
they go down to the basement uh and the basement's extremely dark they do see the military posters covering the walls
and covering the windows are those black trash bags fixed to the walls with duct
tape M upstairs they find journals of atoms and drawings that he has made uh in a closet of one of the rooms they
find neatly arranged hangers there's five hangers with tan colored shirts and five with matching khaki pants right we
kind of talked about that before possibly that Adam or a uniform yeah like a self a self uh created uniform
right um they find computers now on these computers all of these computers the the hard drives have been destroyed
and the internal disc been scratched these rooms had the windows covered as well with the trash bags in
the master bedroom they find the body of Nancy Lanza she's lying on her back still in her pajamas the 22 caliber gun
that was used to kill her was lying at the foot of her bed they would also find quite a bit of firearms in the house as
well as 1,600 rounds of ammunition when law enforcement gets to the Gun Locker or the gun safe there is no evidence
that it was tampered with or broken into they also find a photograph of Adam holding a gun to his head they find
three photos of dead bodies with heads that are covered in plastic and their bodies are covered in blood they found a
military uniform and Adam's first grade report card from Sandy Hook Elementary School they also find a holiday card
addressed to Adam from his mother which contained a check now the the card specified that the
was for a c183 which I don't know exactly what that is but what police say or police
believe is that the money was for a handgun I think a lot of times when we have these tragic events we we're
looking for the reason why right and we're also looking how can we prevent this and there's some signs I mean we've
talked about that in the last episode but whether or not his mother found these pictures of these these uh dead
individuals or but we know that she found pictures of drawings that he's done there's some disturbing stuff I
understand that at some point he was seeing a therapist he should have been seeing a therapist the whole time
forever like multiple visits every week for for a long long period of time yeah there's there's some obvious obvious
signs here to us um there are some things here pointed out as well that that show that Adam didn't just snap he
didn't just snap and get in a car with a single firearm and go into the school and shoot the place up no he he what
we're seeing here is he took the time to try to destroy these computers mhm uh he
also arrived on the scene with with earplugs to to muffle the sounds of the gunshots M um with multiple Firearms
well even if you go back further I mean this is kind of like to me uh the best analogy I could use would be like uh
hurricane right it starts out in the ocean really small and this started back when he's in middle school and the and
the storm just kept growing and growing and growing until it just came to a peak
but also peaked at the same time that it hit land M and I and I feel that's kind
of what it was not only did he plan these events you know maybe days beforehand this was a perfect sto storm
leading up to this whole event the other day I was discussing this case with a friend of mine and I was going over some
of the things that were found in the home uh beforehand and after the fact and one of the things that that person
found interesting was the 1,600 rounds of ammunition I mean that that number sounds very big and to see it on paper
it looks very big keep in mind we know that he had at least 300 rounds of ammunition on his person because he had
those 10 magazines each carrying 30 rounds in them that doesn't even include the other firearms that were present at
the scene so that it sounds like a lot of ammunition right and that was what really stood out and appalled this
person that I was talking with I did bring up to them though you know it it it's all kind of somewhat relative you
know I have a there's one gun that I own and it's a specific it has a very specific form of bullet that it fires
and called they're actually very uh uh very common it's a very common caliber and they're very cheap as well so last
time I went to buy ammunition they were having a sale and for everything was like 50% off or 60% off something like
that so I bought a carton and they only come in cartons and they vary in size but the carton that I purchased for I
think it was 30 bucks had 1,200 rounds in it so so where 1,600 or 2,000 rounds sound like like a whole bunch of like
like somebody that's stockpiling for World War III that's actually not the case sometimes these sometimes the
ammunition just comes in bulk I I don't need 20,200 rounds for anything that I can think of but uh you know that's what
they sold it to me and as we're on the point of what they found in the home there are some pictures online and you
can actually find a picture of ny's bedroom and there is a pull of blood in the middle of the bed and a lot of
people a point of controversy is that if she was shot at at such close range and
with as high power of a rifle that he used that there would be more blood splatter on the wall right now the the
pictures I've seen are so kind of far away from the bed maybe feet away from the bed where they took it that you
can't really see any blood splatter on the wall again I mean I I am not a forensic expert so I don't
know how it would actually react or or was this picture taken after they uh collected evidence and then maybe washed
the walls I'm not for sure but it but there is a large puddle of blood in the middle of her bed and then we even
talked yesterday well where was she laying was there a bunch of pillows around her um I
mean who knows I mean and and would that uh kind of block some of this splatter well and when we see these photos you
know especially in this situation they don't have to release this photo and then explain to you point by point this
is what's going on and this is what we think happened and here's the evidence of such they don't have to do that we
know who did this we know about this crime and they they're going to not release everything on purpose we I mean
we just know that not every question needs to be answered when you have have a solved crime and they don't owe that
to us as a public either well people that think that this is a point in conspiracy I'd question okay well then
then who is Ryan and who is Peter and who is Nancy and are do they all just work for the CIA and they're just uh
they came out of nowhere and they're all actors and their life never existed there is tax records for one uh we we
know Ryan is a real person we know Peter's a real person you know and they don't take into account that
what what about somebody like Ryan that you know even though his brother did these heinous things his brother had a
lot of issues and he lost his brother and then he lost his mother and to start saying that this is this is a point of
conspiracy it's demeaning to their loss yeah and it's demeaning to all the children's losses as well and the family
losses and the community losses well and some of the the evidence that's collected things that they saw at the
scene does that present questions of course it does but there are are there logical answers to these absolutely
there are absolutely logical answers to these questions yeah and as all this misinformation from the news outlets is
coming out and the law enforcement trying to do their investigation we have a lot of victims and uh they need to
have funeral services for these victims yeah and there's you know we have we have to have so many services over the
course of a period of time I think it took over a week to provide all the services and they were having multiple
funerals per day um one thing that was created out of this amongst others but there was a thing called the chase
Foundation now this was in uh remembrance of Chase Kowalski he was one of the children victims that day uh he
was seven years old uh Chase's mother believes now this is something that she had communicated to loved ones at Chase
Service uh she believes that she had actually seen chase after uh after death that he had came to her in a vision and
he had appeared to her to provide strength and comfort and wishing she would move forward with charitable work
Chase came to his mother so so she could explain to her husband the scope of this
thing that this thing is so large that there are so many people around the country in the world that are victims
the amilies and their community that they were going to be touching they were going to be changing lives with this
Foundation the Kowalski started the chase Foundation which is not which is a not for-profit scholarship organization
started in Chase's honor and she believes her son came to her to tell her that the creation of this foundation
will save lives change building codes demand gun and ammunition control and bring God back into America and
investigators at this this point feel like they can make a statement on their findings of this event yeah this would
take them some time to put it together but this is this is all going to revolve around items that they found at the home
um as well as those journals we talked about that were found in Adam's room now basically they they give him a title
they they basically call him a glory killer and what they mean by this is that they didn't feel that any of his
orders is what caused him to do this they also didn't feel that this was something where he had just snapped and
woke up and decided to go and do this they believe that this is something that he planned out maybe not this attack
specifically but that he had plan to attack somebody somewhere at some point and their evidence of this is that the
the length of time that he spent putting together that spreadsheet that we discussed that had what he listed as the
top 500 Mass killers and he had all this information on on them remember this was
in ninepoint font okay and it was it was 7 feet in length and 4 feet wide the spreadsheet it's a massive spreadsheet
with all kinds of information on it and they believed that him studying each one
of them was a form of training that he was almost training himself and learning from their mistakes and learning from
things that he thought that had done correctly to kind of set himself up for this event they also didn't believe that
bullying was involved they because they felt that if he was angry or if he wanted Revenge that he would have in
fact have gone to the high school and not to the elementary school right but we do there is some evidence that points
that he was going to go there right right but we we can get into into the thought the psychology of that a little
bit later because it ties into to something that we're going to talk about um the other thing is they believe that
that the killing of Nancy was just something that he that had to take place that that maybe she wasn't an actual
victim that he was targeting but his whole goal was to carry out an attack and he was not going to be stopped in
the process that she was something that was just necessary to do because had she
seen him taking the car loading the car up with guns she could have called the police and put end to what he was
attempting to do he was going to kill himself and he was going to I don't know that make a statement is the correct
phrase but he was going to he was going to go and take as many people with him in the process this was his quote
unquote Mission and he wasn't going to be stopped by his mother or anybody yeah I don't agree with a lot of their
findings um I I'd say I'm probably 5050 on what I agree with them on um but I am
not an expert well and that yeah I'm with you Captain there there are some things I agree with in that statement
and some that I don't but but again we're not seeing the things that they got to see uh we're not able to review
all of the evidence here and I think that we do have to label that as an expert opinion um it's not fact but it's
it's an opinion of people closest to the information and closest to the case and
I think there's a lot of value uh in that that opinion whether I agree with all of it or not the other thing that I
for that I forgot to mention was that you know we talk about mental illness and and these different aspects here uh
of Adam and what was going on they they also believed that they didn't want to title him a psychopath um because their
beliefs are that a psychopath would carry out a crime like this but want recognition that would want to see what
he had done done and want to read about in the paper see it on the news and and not get not you know killing himself is
not really getting the credit and on top of that he's trying to hide a lot of the
things that he that that were going on with him beforehand well I actually don't by that at all just knowing the
amount of research that he's done on these mass murders knowing that these um knowing that the attacker normally
doesn't make it out alive so you could still be a psychopath knowing that yeah well I'm either going to commit suicide
or they will take me down but this will be recognized MH and so you don't need to see you know and and then also just
knowing you know why why did he kill so many and then take his life you know I think he knew he he had a number that he
was trying to hit and he knew that based off all this information that he collected I need to do this much and if
I do this much it will be talked about so another point where I don't fully agree with him on and and I'm with you I
think I think he was trying to get to some kind of number that he had created and I think that he only killed himself
after believing that he had reached that bar that he had said now uh we talked about that video game that he was
playing combat arms where you actually got a credit a kill credit for for killing yourself in a in a mission or or
in that gameplay I've never played the game but that's how it was explained to me right uh one wonders had you know
once he reached whatever number that he had set or believed that he had done so that either he wasn't brave enough to
take on the police and or killing himself up that number by one well and killing his mother does the same thing
yeah so it's like you know it's it's uh well that's just a bad term I was going to say kill two birds with one stone but
basically that's what it was I mean you you need to kill your mother therefore she can't stop you and all by the way
she adds to the kill count on the W uh Wikipedia page do we want to address any of the hoax theories conspiracy theories
that have come up regarding this case because here's the problem Captain you know when we started looking into this
case um if you just Google search Sandy Hook or New Town um unfortunately almost
all of the information that comes up early in those searches is is hoax or conspiracy yeah yeah there's actually
it's you have to sift through a lot of that before you can find any real information other than you know the
Wikipedia Pages well I think we we covered the whole blood SPL splatter in the bedroom uh I think there is some
logical explanation they're not giving us every detail so there's probably some logical explanation that we just are not
presenting with that information the other thing that we talked about was saying that the a uh the AR-15 was found
in the car well that was misinformation by the media it was actually a shotgun that was found in the car and so little
things like that start making you go well they claim that all these children were killed by with a
AR-15 but how could that happen when it was in the car that's just misinformation by the media the other
thing too and I get so sick of this if you go on YouTube with any of these mass shootings they do
this thing where they take a picture of Adam and they and they take a different picture of Adam just like one from maybe
a year later or six months later and they put them side by side and then they start making the claim that it's not the
same person that somebody switched out these people at some point right like this is a clone or this is some or it's
it's absolutely ridiculous and yeah if you take a picture of me and you put it by a picture of me me from 3 months
later and you look at it long enough maybe you'll find little differences but it's crazy to me that there's you know
tons of these videos going see and it's some idiot on the other side going if you if you notice the picture on the
left his hair looks a little different than the picture on the right no [ __ ] you know but let's let's just go with
some logic that it's probably the same person MH so those little claims just drive me nuts
um we we talked about the second shooter Theory because of the misinformation of
the media you know one of the one of the parents were arrested at the scene yes and this individual was coming up to the
school there was gunshots being fired he then uh ran to the edge of the building
to he was trying to look in the window of the classroom where his child was you know being I mean that's a heroic event
from a father he's just trying to see if his kids are okay the police see him he
then takes off running from the building yeah uh there's several individuals that
are running from the building because uh it's the fight or flight mentality and they decided to flight and they were
arrested and they were questioned and the big thing here was he had camo pants on and a black shirt yeah and he was
actually seen by um some of the other parents as being handcuffed and put into to a police cruiser um I believe he was
showing up to he was going to work on some project with the kids that day like build gingerbread cookie houses or
something and he he when he arrived the glass was shot out but he's still hearing the gunfire that's going on
inside the school so he doesn't go in and when he sees the police when they when they you know say hey stop you know
get down or whatever they tell him to do um he he actually thinks that they might
be the shooters uh he's totally out of his element and don't know you don't know what's going on in this situation
it's pure chaos right and he thinks that maybe the police are the shooters he hiils it to the woods and as you said he
was arrested and when people say well that's crazy that he would have thought that the police officers or the shooters
it's not crazy because when you watch video footage of Coline or even some of the stuff that Adam was wearing it's
very militant and so therefore that's not crazy CRA so that's again misinformation from the media and so
therefore it's a conspiracy or it's a hoax the whole idea that this is a hoax so you're going to have to invent 27
people you just have to out a thin air invent 27 people that never existed the idea that it's a hoax that
it just never happened it was a drill is frankly one of the stupidest things I've
ever heard now with that being said when people say well was it a conspiracy when you start thinking of
the idea of let's say Adam win in to to to this tragic event happen did politicians did the media
spin it for agenda definitely you know the and and but did they create fictitious characters to spin their
agenda I don't I don't believe so I think there was so so much misinformation that it just lead to this complete chaos
as far as a media storm well and if you're trying to control guns um those laws didn't pass so you
know you know if they wanted to do if they being the government wanted to absolutely do something they would just
do it right they wouldn't cause this horrible event now I do want to go back on something uh real quick before we go
forward uh talking about is it crazy to think that the police or the shooters well he's not identifying them as police
officers obviously right and here's the thing when you're in this situation do you have time to sit there and analyze
the person you seeing as being the potential gunman or just somebody else no no you run you get out of there and
and this can be explained as easy as this one of the calls that the dispatchers were sending out to the
police officers arriving on the scene they're reminding all police officers that the gunman has not been identified
yet they don't know if it's one shooter or multiple Shooters right so if you are
a PL are you you are off duty and in plane clothes in civilan gear mhm that when you arrive at the school you must
be wearing your riot gear put on put on that riot gear because that will be the only thing that the cops will have time
to identify you as being a police officer rather than being just some man with a gun mhm so so it's a extremely
logical situ situation to understand that this poor man whose daughter is in the building hears gunfire that he would
think that a police officer from a distance might be the shooter yeah and I think uh so there's two points there as
far as conspiracy goes that you talked about won the 911 tapes mhm so the 911 tapes there's a lot of dispatchers that
uh did say there's possibly you know more than one shooter right we know with Colin Bine that they didn't go into the
building they didn't go to the high school you know for a while because the reports from the people inside the
building the students inside the building saying that there was eight Shooters right what did six of the
shooters just disappear after they entered no it was just misinformation it was just eyewitness account that was not
correct and in a state of chaos you're going to get some misinformation so that's one thing about the 911 tapes MH
right it's it's it's common that when there is a shooting that they think well maybe it's one person maybe it's more
especially if you're using an assault rifle that I bet there was plenty of people thought that just the amount of
shooting taking place possibly couldn't be done by one individual well in the echoing effect that would take place
okay and to add to that chaos not only are you hearing these noises coming from the actual gun but you're hearing them
then repeated over the intercom system now yeah well with the Freedom of Information Act a lot of people give it
a bunch of [ __ ] if if you listen to our trailer I think seven 911 calls there was more 911 calls released a lot of
them didn't have any uh informational value there are some of the 911 calls that were not released and what the
police department basically stated and they they stated it multiple times was there's some things on these
tape Apes that don't help you understand the case anymore right you do not need to hear 911 tapes with children crying
and children taking their last breath and stuff like that and as a true crime fan as much as I want to hear that
information by holding that information back you are protecting the family you are protecting um the you know the
victim's loved ones you're protecting that Community which they should and if you're sitting behind a computer screen
and you're you're hunting for this information and you're upset or angry that you cannot find it or you think
that you deserve to be able to review that information well just instead why don't
you count your blessings and be thankful that you've never been in a situation like these victims or the victim's
families have been in no I I I totally agree but and and but I totally understand why people want to have that
information so they can put together more of the pieces of the puzzle the other thing too is Ben Wheeler was
one of the victims I believe he was 6 years old his father and mother were both actors Now by them being actors
everybody when they were giving their press conferences and stuff like that they start googling his parents and then
realized well they were actors yes they had a profession they both were actors and therefore they made up enough money
where they can move to the area and have their kids go to this uh school you know
and by all accounts um Sandy Hook was a school that people wanted to send their kids to is it that odd that a mother and
father would have the same profession I mean that's one of the you know most common ways that adults you know meet
each other as as adults and and start relationships is at work so the other problem with Ben Wheeler's uh father is
he looks a lot like a FBI agent and so there is this there's these scenes that if you he looks like a specific sorry I
don't mean to interrupt but he looks like a specific FBI agent or just somebody that would like no he looks
like he looks like a certain one and and so there's all this footage of these guys showing up gearing up in their SWAT
gear and then entering the school or now helping with this tragic scene okay mhm
so if you watch the footage and you compare the pictures I I'll I'll be frank when I saw the pictures I thought
holy [ __ ] there there is something going on yeah that's if you just look at the
pictures with one guy in full right Gear with the helmet on and all these things
if you see pictures of Ben's father you know hours afterwards if you can find those pictures he is going bald
but has some hair if you watch the footage of the the officer I believe he's a FBI agent that's gearing up in
full SWAT gear you can see footage of him getting out of his car right and starting to put on his gear shaved head
Bal they've identified what the FBI agent's name was and then again if you compare you know if you compare the two
pictures with a guy in his full gear you're like ah that seems very uh fishy once you see the guy getting dressed and
putting all his stuff on you go that's not the same guy unless this guy that's going bald can somehow grow a bunch of
hair within hours yeah it so it doesn't make a lot of sense but I will admit that when I first saw it I I thought
well there's something here if you can grow hair in a matter of hours and replace all that hair falling off your
head you'd you'd make it Be A Millionaire right a billionaire that you would have something there right another
thing that comes off as odd and I didn't have a logical explanation of this you'll see a lot of these hoax or
Conspiracy Theory videos where there's people outside the school building and they're just kind of walking in circles
okay mhm and there seems to be no Rhyme or Reason and it seems like a lot of chaos it's almost the way the conspiracy
theorists put it is well we have all these actors and we have the school and we're just going to have these people
pretend and we're just going to have them scatter around and kind of walk in a loop were these people that were
coming that had come out of the school some are coming out of the school some are are people that are arriving at the
building um I couldn't make a lot logical sense out of this until I watched the documentary new town right
now I like I said if you want to watch it go for it there's not much information it is a cryfest um it was
difficult to watch and as frankly made uh just doing the podcast this week even harder by watching it um so I wouldn't
recommend that and I'll tell you what though there is some logical reasoning for that when well here's the logical
reason go for it okay so when I was watching this documentary The the piece that I got out of it
was one of the fathers said you know I I arrive I don't know what's going on he said I paced for a long time I must have
did over a thousand laps and when I heard the one of the victim's father said I must have done a thousand
laps he's just walking in circles not knowing what the hell happened to his kid and yeah he's not talking to anybody
cuz nobody has any answers for him and there's a swarm of media and he's just beside himself you know almost in a
a trance mhm and that's the only logical explanation I can come up with for that
one yeah the thing here is though too okay we have a situation where the the the stress level is off of the charts
it's it's something that most of us cannot even comprehend and we know that we we don't know that how someone would
react in that situation where I mean you're talking about this is basically combat War type
situations and the other thing too not to top off that stress level this traumatic situation that
you're going through if you were in the building you the the loud gunfire remember Adam had put ear you know he
had ear plugs in he came equipped the people people that he was attacking they're hearing these loud Extremely
Loud Noises that are echoing off of every wall that in itself will dis disorient you as well uh another thing
that conspiracy theorists bring up is there's a lot of vehicles outside of the school that are black or silver and
there's a lot of vehicles uh that are involved in this case that are Honda vehicles right um Adam's mother's
vehicle was a Honda one of the teachers cars that was shot up was a Honda what is the logical explanation
were there a bunch of people that worked for the M you know first of all there are other units that sent people so so
you'll get a lot of government workers will have black or gray cars the fact that there was a couple Hondas
involved black or silver cars it just it doesn't matter to me I think it's somebody gra grasing stws it's
absolutely silly because what are we reminded of when we watch TV anybody that's seen a Honda commercial we're
reminded time and time again how they are one of the number one selling brands especially a Honda Civic or a Honda
Accord they they've been number one selling cars time and time again so so it's a very popular car first of all and
then second of all it doesn't take much research Einstein to figure out that black and silver are usually the most
popular colors of vehicles that are purchased as well so you're exactly right this is somebody just grasping at
anything the other thing that the other thing that is absolutely silly that I saw time and time again on the internet
as far as hoax go or conspiracy theories was there's still this argument that we
are being lied to and that Nancy was in fact actually a teacher at the school or
that she was some form of volunteer at the school right and and why they keep going back to to that I I I cannot
figure the value in it if she was a teacher or if she was a volunteer or if she had nothing to do with the school at
all it doesn't really affect what happened this event still happened she's dead and we have all these other victims
it doesn't matter what her employment status was and second of all no kidding that that that that conspiracy theory
came out because we reported all the misinformation that came out early on in this case I mean have the suspect's name
right they didn't have the suspect's name right they they created some fictitious girlfriend and and her mother
was missing from New Jersey uh yeah nobody's dating Lloyd Christmas that's wearing the same outfit every day the
kid wouldn't leave his basement unless he was going to the shooting range or to rent a video game um so he probably
smelled like Fritos there's all this bad information and that unfortunately gives
birth to a lot of these conspiracy theories yeah and look the black and gray car look yeah you I do think somebody's
grasping at straws but if there's any validity to it yes I don't have an answer just like the blood splatter I
don't have an answer I do believe that there's some logical uh reasoning for that um and then a lot of people bring
up the corner the corner if you want to watch something that is so utterly confusing you know these children were
not brought to the ER right another conspiracy there is when when the ER doctor was when they questioned him I
think it was Congress that questioned him and they said did you treat these victims he said yes we did and then he
stopped himself and said well actually we didn't because most of these victims were such a at a young age and they were
hit with such um these bullets from the AR-15 that explode when they hit their victims that the average victim had
three to 11 bullet wounds and that they're basically dead when the the cops arrived and so a lot of conspiracy theor
go well see see this uh you catch this doctor in a lie no he misspoke and he's misspeaking in front of a bunch of
people um you know and you know it's a t touchy subject and trust me you know we get
into the garage and the garage is a comfortable area for us and we're drinking some beers and we missp speak
all the time I just did it right there so I was talking about the corner like I said if you want to see something
that's very uh nerving is the coroner makes some very odd jokes uh I think it's in poor taste uh I
think it's also somebody that examines uh dead bodies for a living and their sensey humor is going to be a little
different than the average person but he's he's you know well educated to have that position he certainly knows
better yeah I I get it I get it because we've talked to detectives and we've talked to doctors you know and they some
of them can have a dark sense of humor to try to get them through their day yeah well I mean I have it too I mean
just based off what we do on the show there's sometimes I'll see a meme about a serial killer and I'm cracking up and
I feel like the most awful weirdest person in the world but you know should you should you should you should any
more conspiracy stuff that you want to touch upon yeah there's a couple things that are a little odd one is there's a
picture of a victim of Sandy Hook where they um well actually three things there's a picture of a victim from Sandy
Hook that was also used in this terrorist attack overseas and you can find this information pretty easily and
there's this lady giv giving a speech and there's all these pictures of these victims and clearly one of the pictures
of the victims of Sandy Hook is on the podium I have no explanation for this I I don't know what to think of
this could it was one of the one of the young boys was the victim and at Sandy Hook could it just be a lookalike I mean
there there are people that look like one another it's it's very possible but from the evidence I've seen it looks
like the almost the the exact same picture uh so that's odd the other thing that people bring up a lot of times in
this case is that Sandy Hook was demolished and that also um Adam's home was demolished as well MH now the
community voted to have Sandy Hook be destroyed so none of the parents or you know a lot of these parents had other
children that would be attending the school and for them to have to Rel live these events over and over doesn't make
a lot of sense um I don't have a a lot of explanation for why the the Adams House was
destroyed it's not uncommon though you know when when we've seen this with Ed Yan's house yeah and and countless other
homes you know there were there's been crimes in in Cleveland and in Columbus and in Cincinnati that that they've
destroyed the homes uh where horrible events have taken place or where the perpetrator of such had lived and um so
it's not an uncommon thing to destroy homes and and absolutely uh in my opinion the school needed to be taken
down and and cons yeah conspiracy theorists and hoax theorists will say that this was a way for people to cover
up evidence yeah yeah to hide to hide what really had happened and and uh and now I misspoke cuz Ed gan's house was
destroyed by somebody it wasn't destroyed by the community um but I think it's also a way with these Mass
murderers or or people that have sick twisted Minds sometimes they they turn these things into shrines mhm um so
again it's odd I think you know spend some time diving into that if that's your thing uh I think you'll find some
logical reason uh if you dive into those things well and you have you have a grieving Community you know whether
these whether some of the people had children attending that school or not you have a grieving community and after
that grieving process takes place hopefully there's a healing process that takes place and I don't believe you can
heal until with with some of those memories still around with some of with with those buildings being around uh I
mean sometimes we should just call me Captain conspiracy because I do dive into the conspiracy side of things
multiple times lot of talk lately on social media when when people knew were doing this case was the actors the
actors that were paid to be Witnesses now if you look up this this happened in Aurora this happened with Sandy Hook
this has happened multiple times whether whether or not it's the you know like CNN or Fox there's been several media
Outlets that have been caught red-handed paying people to act as Witnesses now to
me this doesn't have this doesn't lead to the idea that it was a conspiracy or that it was a hoax what to me this leads
to is that news media has agenda right and and so by you know we see this I think the last one
was CNN had uh the Trump riers and they figured out well it wasn't it wasn't actual riers it was you know CNN's
cameraman you know look I understand that you have to create content but the fact of the matter is this this whole
new way of doing news being first who cares about being right and all if we have to manipulate the news if we have
to pay or fake eyewitnesses um then at least we have a story that we have content well I just
think that is utter [ __ ] and I don't think it's responsible and you know what when when news is they do it because
news has become so competitive you know there's these 24 hour news networks there's news everywhere it's become so
competitive but you would think that at the same point that that would be their fear you know if we are caught
red-handed mishandling information or giving out bad information that the that would be the death of us that the
viewers would move on to somebody else yeah and I I actually wish people would I mean if you're going to constantly
give out misinformation if you're going to fake content then yeah stop listening
to that stop watching that stop going with their agenda stop paying these people money by you watching them they
get ads and all that stuff and just knock it off I mean it's just not responsible um as far as I know that
Alex Jones has talked multiple times that he's going to dive back into this because of the you know the
misinformation and trying to get to the bottom of it again look I'm a fan of Alex Jones I've watched several of his
videos I watch several several of his videos on Sandy Hook um I don't think Alex Jones is a bad guy
but he has agenda as well I mean and his audience is the conspiracy the truth Seeker audience um I My Hope Is that he
actually dives into it and looks at it on a realistic level and un uncovers the actual truth you know I think sometimes
when people say well I'm a truth I'm a truth Seeker well I think you're more of a question seeker and you're not trying
to find the answer you want once you I think a lot of people's attention spans are so small that they get to the point
where they find the question and they don't dive in more to find the answer right so it's like oh great well we see
this this is kind of odd don't you think okay well what's the answer so you know
if you're going to be a truth Seeker be that and not a question Seeker all right
let's move on to something else because we do only have so much time and I there
is some things that I want to get to here one of them being this news news article that came out shortly after the
Sandy Hook uh tragedy and it's titled top 10 myths about mass shootings now uh we're not going to go through all 10 of
them but there are a few that I'd like to go through uh kind of quickly here if anybody wants to read all 10 10 of them
a simple Google search this will be the first thing that pops up all right so the first myth is that mass murderers
kill indiscriminately well that they snap and then kill indiscriminately and the
reality of that according to this article is that mass murderers typically plan their assaults for days weeks or
months they are deliberate in their preparing for their missions and determined to follow through no matter
what and this is one thing that I was talking about regarding the high school and we we had said that if he wanted
Revenge that he would have gone to the high school and I think that that you could take this argument either way
according to this this article here right the argument one way would be that going to the high school even though he
saw the police uh cars there that he would have went in and attempted this attack anyway mhm uh the other argument
that could be made is that they were simply an obstacle that he was not going to be deterred from carrying out his
mission and therefore he went to plan b or or went off on the Fly and did something you know went outside of his
plan all right the next myth that we're going to talk about is that enhanced background checks will keep dangerous
weapons out of the hands of these Mad Men and the reality is most Mass murderers do not have a criminal record
or have a history of psychiatric hospitalization and the other myth is that restoring Federal ban on assault
weapons will prevent these horrible crimes the reality is the overwhelming majority of mass murderers use firearms
that would not be restricted by an assault weapons ban in fact semi-automatic handguns are far more
prevalent in mass shootings of course limiting the size of ammunition Clips would at least force a gunman to pause
and reload or switch weapons mhm and I look I think we all can agree that if you got rid of you know if you got rid
of all arms alog together no guns that these crimes wouldn't happen right right I mean or or they
would be forced to use find a different weapon which would be less um you know violent uh of a situation or or possibly
more violent I mean you think oh sorry I meant a number of victims type situation
but right but what I'm saying is that you know uh there would still be people that would want to get revenge on their
high school or whatever and if they didn't have any guns then there's other means you know explosives or whatever
and then the kill count actually could be way higher MH and one thing I do want to point out that was very obvious when
doing the research for this particular case uh we talk about gun laws all right and and bring those into question when
these events take place we got to be clear here because laws are only good if they're followed and in this particular
situation we had two gun laws that were broken by the shooter by Adam Lanza now had those gun laws been obeyed then this
this probably would have never have happened at the time in the state of Connecticut and it may still hold True
to this day day but at that time to to own a gun to be a gun owner you had to have been of the age of 21 or older Adam
lza was 20 at the time of of of this crime right and the other law is that there are not to be any firearms on
school property which he obviously broke as well mhm the there has been a big argument as far as you know there's so
many people that came out and said in the beginning of this situation that you know if Nancy lza would have just kept
her guns locked up better that this would have have happened there's plenty of evidence to to to prove to us that
some of these guns were purchased for Adam's use and we talked about the Gun Locker or the gun safe having no signs
of being broken into or being tampered with he clearly had access to that gun safe yeah I mean I think there's tons of
missteps uh but I think going back through his history I mean what a tough spot for her to be in uh trying to
communicate with her son trying to have her son have some kind of normal life but because of those missteps I think it
created this giant tragedy and the last myth that we will address is increasing security in schools and other places
will deter mass murder the reality their answer that they give is most security measures will only serve as a minor
inconvenience for those who are set on mass murder if anything excessive security and a fortress-like environment
serve as a constant reminder of danger and vulnerability and I got to say captain I disagree with that last one
you know I didn't didn't select ones on from this article that I that I just were were things and ideals that I
wanted to put out there for things that I believe in this last one I disagree with because exactly in this situation
in this exact situation with Sandy Hook we saw some preventative measure put into place right we saw that they had
the the front doors were locked you couldn't get in without having permission or or being granted
permission I do think that him having to shoot out that glass there that did give
some kind of warning to people inside as to what was going on this was also a school that had practiced lockdown
procedures before in the past and a lot of the teachers went into lockdown mode during this attack and I absolutely
believe wholeheartedly that that did save some lives now I'm not saying that um you know it says something about
fortress-like environment only serves as a a reminder of danger and vulnerability
I don't think that our schools or our shopping malls or places of business should be fortress-like you know that's
a little bit above and beyond and ridiculous but I do think that we live in a day and age where where these
certain safety Pro procedures lockdown procedures and certain Safety and Security features should be used and
utilized in these environments well I have zero problem with our schools being fortresses because uh
I look if you can go to a place to get an education you should feel safe y uh and I and I and I wish you know these
these school shootings are becoming so common that it's like you just put an officer at each school and maybe that
deters it a little bit Yeah there's going to be holes and gaps but that would be something that we can do
instantly that I think would uh would change the outcom it would be a giant leap forward yeah and obviously I I just
wish that event never took place uh and it was a probably the toughest case for us to cover as far as emotionally I and
very tough to cover with the fact that the most of the research that you find talks more about a hoax and more about a
conspiracy than the actual events and of course our hearts and thoughts and prayers go out to anybody anywhere
affected by this horrible tragedy um words can't describe what took place that day and I I do I do hope and
believe that some healing is taking place and and we're we're under 5 years since this event took place um I know
that the grieving process doesn't end for all of us uh but some of us hopefully are starting to heal and we we
had several listeners that reached out to us saying that they were from the area that they were involved and uh as
far as the conspiracy stuff goes uh they said look this was reality to us uh we felt it and we had to deal with it and
we're still dealing with it so our hearts go out to them recommended reading for this week I'd like to
recommend New Town an American Tragedy by Matthew leack Matthew is a journalist for the Daily News New York his book new
town is a meticulous account of the new town massacre in its aftermath this is a
definitive journalistic account of new town and an essential examination of the facts not only of that horrific day but
the perfect storm of mental instability and Obsession that preceded it drawn from previously undisclosed emails
police reports and indepth interviews new town and American Tragedy breaks through the misinformation to present
the comprehensive story that must be told if we are going to prevent another American Tragedy pick up New Town by
Matthew leack you can do that by going to our website true Crim garage.com and click on the recommended page and until
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Beer of the Week- Fuzzy Baby Ducks by New England Brewing CompanyGarage grade - 4 1/2 out of 5 bottle capsIt didn't start with Columbine but if you ask people my age that's the first School massacre that we remember and you hate to force yourself to rank these tragedies but Sandy Hook certainly is one of the worst. These stories are becoming a common occurence. We won't say it out loud but we are becoming numb to these horrible events. We use to kiss our kids and send them off hoping they would learn something and make us proud but these days we kiss our kids and hope that they come back. Once we shake off the shock and try to comprehend these tragic stories we must know why. We seek out to answer every question one can think of but even after we have done so, we are still confused. We have to blame someone, that part is easy as usually the guilty party is found close to his victims with a bullet in his head. But that's just not enough. That's not good enough. Because kids are not supposed to die, parents are not supposed to bury their children. Children and young adults are supposed to have too many exciting things to look forward to in their lives to ever think or consider carrying out these plans that end lives, ruin families, destroy communities and break the hearts of a nation. Why?Is the problem our gun control laws? Is the problem mind altering pharmaceuticals treating our troubled youth? Or is it the bullies? We may never know.

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Brief Summary

True Crime Garage discusses the Sandy Hook shooting, focusing on Adam Lanza, the attack, and its aftermath, while addressing misinformation and conspiracy theories.

Key points

Sandy Hook Shooting. A tragic event unfolds at Sandy Hook Elementary School, leading to chaos and bravery.
Bravery in Crisis. Teachers and staff show incredible courage during the shooting, trying to protect students.
Ryan's Realization. Ryan learns about the tragic events involving his family, leading to a shocking revelation.
Misinformation in the Media. The chaotic reporting surrounding the event raises questions about the accuracy of news coverage.
Heartbreaking Confirmation. Parents receive devastating news about their children from the governor, leading to chaos.
The Chase Foundation. In memory of a victim, a foundation is created to promote safety and awareness.

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